S2E76 End Time Entities

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Welcome to the program. We are your host, Jose and Matthew.

We're doing a fellowship on top of that. So that

is to say, let's do this right. Welcome to the fellowship.

Jose and I are going to be doing the This

is the fine episode of season two, and I've been

spurred by siblings to go back to the beginning, to

go back to the beginning and try to teach things

as I have taught them now. To be sure, ladies

and gentlemen, I cannot categorically do that, And if you're

not aware of that, the reason why is that in

twenty seventeen, I had my office in the barn, and

that went up in a blaze of glory in November

of twenty seventeen. So it is categorically impossible for me

to do what I had done before, even though everyone

here in this fellowship can bear testimony that I did

it systematically and successfully. Right hose. It's the only way

you can put it right.

Yes, absolutely, So.

Ask me initially, you know, what did you do first?

Because there's two different categories that I basically teach from.

One is isochronology, and you have to understand that first.

If you don't understand that time is isochronal, and things

happen throughout time cyclically, and when they do, it's either

presented to you as a shadow of the original event

or a silhouette. Always does that. The next part that

is just as important, equally as important is in time entities.

You know, when it comes to the end time, everybody

just has one question on their mind. Who were they

in revelation? Where are they going to go? How were

they going to get there? That's their main question, who

were they? And the problem is is that the Book

of Revelation has more than one group, that has more

than one group. So that's the most important question that

I need to answer for you is which group are you?

And the best way to do that historically, Now this

is this is historically and ultimately proven fact that the

best way to ascertain something in the midst of many

choices is the process of elimination. This statement is one

hundred percent true. It is the actual fact of the matter.

When dealing with multiple choices, the best way to determine

what is what is the process of elimination? So pose, Hey,

why don't you tell me of some of the different

groups in the Book of Revelation.

Yeah, Matthew, there's there's quite a few, right, and and

sometimes there's there's a lot of chapters that cover those

entities more than once.

Right.

I always like to start with Revelation chapter twelve because

that's a good place where it places all the entities

in one chapter, and then we can we can spread

out from there. But we're told about the male child

that's taken up to Heaven in Revelation chapter twelve, and

historically people have kind of said, oh, this is Jesus.

You know that that's kind of how it's been read into.

But we know that that's prophetically talking about the group

that's in Revelation chapter fourteen, Matthew, which those that are

sent to Mountain Zion, which is exactly what Revelation tells us,

those that ascend to Mountain Zion, those one hundred and

forty four thousand that are taught personally by God they're

taught in new song. They have no sin in them,

no guile, they haven't lied. There's a lot of these

descriptors that were given of this group, Matthew, which correspond

with that group but being some kind of child, right,

a newborn child, because in Revelation twelve, the woman gives

birth to this child, Matthew, So that group corresponds with

what we're told about those in Revelation chapter fourteen. Then

we have the woman, right, the woman that is taken

to a place prepared for her by the Lord, matching

exactly what Jesus tells us. You know, he tells us

that he goes to his father's house to prepare mansions

for us, right, many rooms for us. So to to

expect this group that we're told is going to be

taken to a place and protected for one two hundred

and sixty days this woman, to expect this woman to

go through the Great Tribulation is a mistake a lot

of a lot of Christians make, Matthew, because we're told

that she is taken to a place that is prepared

for her, and so we know this this woman as

being you know, you could describe it as the church,

the ecclesia, the techno epigelia. I mean, there's there's lots

of descriptors that we can use, Matthew, but it is

those Christians who hold fast that actually act like a Christian.

No matter what what pew you're sitting in, Matthew, you're

following the Ten Commandments, you're following the Beatitudes. You're letting

that be your guide to how to interact and be

salt and light in the world. That's who this woman

is and that we're told in Matthew twenty four that

this woman, you know, she goes through the birth pangs,

because that's what happens when a child is born, right,

she suffers through these birth pangs, and there's gonna be persecution.

We're told that, you know, brother against brother, mother against daughter.

You know, you're you're that fellow church gore that you

sat sat next to every every day in church is

the one that's gonna that's gonna persecute you. We're told

these things are gonna happen, and that's what the woman

must endure. Now, is she going to continue to believe

in the Bible, continue to follow the Holy Spirit, continue

to hold the Lord Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior,

continue to love the Lord her God with all her mind, body,

and soul and spirit. Or is she gonna going to

give all that up and fall into you know, I

guess you could say, uh, you know, in order to

avoid persecution, go along with everybody else, Matthew, that that

everyone else is doing in that in those very same

pews that that we that we've said in every day,

we're gonna start to see the abomination desolation rise up right,

That's what we're told is going to happen. Is this

woman going to accept that or hold to the Ten

Commandments and the beattitudes, Matthew. And then the final entity

is the rest of her children as described in Revelation

chapter twelve. And this is the group that we see

in Revelation chapter seven. This is also the group that

we see in Revelation chapter thirteen that has to lose

their head be killed because they hold to the Ten

Commandments and to the testimony of Jesus. And these are

also the group, Matthew that is part of the First

Resurrection that we see in Revelation chapter twenty. So we

see all these groups all laid out in the Book

of Revelation pretty clearly. Historically, some churches will try to

group these groups together, will try to, you know, someway

or other figure out what God is talking about. Right,

is the group in Revelation fourteen the same group that's

in Revelation chapter seven because they have the same number.

Does the woman have to endure the great tribulation? You know? However,

they however, they described that that period where where the

beast is in charge. There's lots of confusion around these entities, Matthew,

but those are the three entities that were given in

the Book of Revelation. And when when I remember you

shared when you shared this with us, you know, over

ten years ago. I mean, you warned us that that

studying studying these entities was going to give us greater

understanding of our Bible, but more was going to be

demanded of us, and we were going to have to

endure a lot more with knowing this information. And it's

hard to describe that, Matthew, what I what I've gone through.

You know. What's what's what's most troubling is when you

try to share this with other individuals, it's it's almost

like they they have they I don't want to say

that their their heart is hard in Matthew. But it's

just they've never heard it before and it just doesn't

register with their spirit that what the Bagbele actually says

is true. And that hurts, Matthew, that hurts a lot,

you know. So so that's that's what I found the most,

that I've struggled the most with in knowing these entities

and trying to share what I know with other people.

It works best on people that don't have haven't sat

in a pew for twenty years when I show this

to them, and then I go through the Bible and

I and I so where the other where the entities appear, Matthew.

It's it's quite simple, and they understand it and they

get it. But when you have somebody that's that's you know,

been taught other doctrines and other dogmas, it's it's real

hard to get that that out of their head so

they can see what what God is actually showing them

in the Bible. So I know that's a long descriptor, Matthew,

but that's kind of where I'm at right now with

the with the with the end time entities, and and

you know, they're everywhere in the Bible. You can see them,

see them in every chapter. Every chapter just talks about

those entities. Every chapter tells us, you know, it just

reinforces and gives us more data about what's going to happen.

And and it truly to me, it truly opened up

my Bible once I started to understand who these entities

were and what role they were going to play, you know,

in the end times, Matthew.

And that is to say, once you understand time itself,

then you understand the different in time entities. It is

only then that you can begin to comprehend the end

time timeline. You can begin to understand the timeline. What

I have stated, ladies and gentlemen, can be proven in

a court of law with the people that are in

this fellowship right now. They can all bear witness to

what I have done, what I have said, how I

have laid out the Bible, God's holy work. It's that simple.

I really haven't done anything. I have taught them to

believe it. That's really the only thing I've done, has

taught them to throw away all the garbage. Let's read

a verse. Let's accept that versus true and figure out

how it's true. I always start out every teaching Sesson

with that. We need to figure out how it is true,

because Jose mentioned one of the very important groups, extremely important. Okay,

this is true. The Book of Daniel plainly states that

the little hoarn will overcome the Saints, right Jose, Yes,

we've said that many times. So guess what this group,

this entity is in the Book of Revelation. Check this

revelation chapter eleven, verse seven, when they finish their testimony,

the beast that descends from the bless pit will make

war against them, overcome them, and kill them. Now, everybody

knows that when I say that, that's talking about the

two witnesses. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, the two witnesses.

So are they part of the woman because this is

saying that the beast is going to make war with them.

Ladies and gentlemen, there's more than two saints, right, Okay.

Revelation chapter thirteen, which Jose mentioned before, verse seven, it

was granted him to make war with the saints and

to overcome them, and authority was given him over every tribe, tongue,

and nation. This is just a commentary off what I

refer to earlier in Daniel. Revelation chapter fourteen, verse twelve.

Here is the patience of the saints. Here are those

who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

Is this the woman people? Is this the woman that

the beast is going to make war with and kill

them all? Okay? Revelation chapter twenty, verse four. This is

the same group. Now, look, have to ask you an

honest question. Okay, you need to You need to listen

to my voice when I ask Jose this Jose is

the bride of Christ. We all agree, that's the church.

Everybody who's a Christian. That's the bride of Christ. Does

she have a job to do in the millennium? No, Matthew, No, No. So,

ladies and gentlemen, listen before I read this last verse.

I don't understand this. It's in Daniel. I've given you

three references to this group in Revelation already. Now I'm

going to read to you. What happens to them is

they do not get to marry the bride. They're they're

not a part of that. You you're part of one group.

You're either part of the bride or you're part to

the bridegroom. Right in every marriage, there's two sides. There's

two aisles in every wedding. Right, hose you have the

right side and the left side. Right, yes, you have

all the relatives of the bride on one side and

all the relatives of the groom on the other side. Right. Listen, listen,

ladies and gentlemen, listen. Revelations, Chapter twenty, verse four. And

I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment

was committed to them. Then I saw the souls who

had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for

the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast

or his image, and had not received the mark on

their foreheads or on their hands. They lived and reigned

with Christ for a thousand years. Okay, rain, Ladies and gentlemen,

is a whole lot different vernacular than married. You need

to understand this. This is elementary teaching. Okay, it's elementary teaching.

This group is a particular group, and the beast from

the Abyss will make war with them, and he will

kill them, and in doing so they do not get

married to the bridegroom. That's what this verse just said.

They have to work with the bridegroom. This is elementary.

This has caused so much confusion in the church. It

doesn't matter which church you're going to. They're all confused

about this, all of them. Because the Bible emphatically says

that we are going to be joined with Christ at

his return, and yet these verses are painfully saying that

that little horn is going to make war with them

and overcome them. And that's exactly what Revelation chapter twenty said.

They had all been killed. So this is elementary. You

should just naturally know that, oh, this is definitely a

different group. This is not the bride of Christ. This

is something different because, as Jose already brought up, when

you really know the timeline and the timeline, it's Revelation

chapter twelve. That timeline is three and a half years long.

And for that timeline, it clearly states that she flees

and then an event happens. The event that starts the

tribulation is he's the birth of this child. Now, I

appreciate that Jose said something from the entertainment industry, and

I take umbrage with him even bringing it up. No,

ladies and gentlemen, Jesus Christ was not raptured to Heaven.

Oh no, he wasn't. He was taken to Egypt by

his mother and his stepfather. So if someone told you

in Revelation chapter twelve, that's talking about Jesus, they said

that for one reason, it's because they were lying to you.

Jesus Christ went to Egypt. He went to Egypt. This

can not be talking about the Lord Jesus Christ. It

must be talking about the group that Jesus talked about

in Matthew chapter twenty four, verse nineteen. Probably should write

that one down, Matthew twenty four nineteen. So Jose has

established some pretty clear things that these children are the

they are the cause of the tribulation. That's what Revelation

chapter twelve painfully states. And it amazes me how no

one says this, do they, Jose, have you ever heard

this from a Bible prophecy teacher or a preacher in

the pulpit? Have you ever said, have you ever heard

that the war in heaven is caused by the birth

of children? Have you ever heard that? And no, I

have not, Matthew, But that's exactly what it says. Yes,

And it amazes me how people just think it's never

mentioned it they avoid it like the plague. Ladies and gentlemen.

The war in Heaven was not caused by jealousy about Adam.

I mean, all these conspiracy theories are alie. The war

in heaven is caused by the birth of these children.

Yes it is. It is detailed in Isaiah chapter twenty six.

So there are other groups we need to talk about,

because there is the bad guys, right, there are those

who take the mark the beast. That's definitely a group, right, yep.

So these end time entities are pretty important. That you

know what you are. You need to know what you

are now. It amazes me that the proof is in

the pudding. That's how Revelation opens up. I mean, Revelations

chapters two and three are specifically dedicated to telling you

who you are. I was ahen's last time you heard

that from the pulpit?

Then I have not heard that, Matthew. I mean, I've

read it plenty of times here, but not in the pulpit.

It is amazing to me that the normal thing taught

is that this is seven church ages. What a load

of crap. Ladies and gentle If you call yourself a Christian,

you better read through those churches and figure out which

one you are, because Christ has given you clear and

present warnings. He's given you clear and present instructions. Right

and more, people that you converse with about the Book

of Revelations, they never talk about the seven churches. That's

all they say. These are seven church agents. Okay, next

thing to trumpets. You know, if they do say anything,

they just mentions the name of them. Right, that'll be

as far as they take it. And invariably they say, oh,

we're the lao to see in church. Absolutely blows my mind.

But let me take this. I am going to say this.

This group of children that Revelation chapter fourteen plainly states

they go to Mount Zion. That's not the first place

it's mentioned. That's just a commentary off of the Book

of Obadiah. Now, if that takes you by surprise, I'm

sorry about that. But the last verse in Obadiah from

the New King James version says this, then save yours

shall come to Mount Zion to judge the mountains of Esau,

and the kingdom shall be the lords. Okay, the kingdom

is not the lords. Now, no, it's not. If you're

saying that we're in the millennial reign of Christ. Now

it's because you're lying. It's because you're a liar. That's

why you'd say that. Okay, this is saying that this

group I mean, I appreciate the translation. Saviors here will

run with that. Okay. It states this group shall come

to Mount Zion. Now the problem with this is that

is not a hill in Jerusalem, and it never was.

The Book of Hebrews chapter twelve, verse twenty two painfully

says that's wherever God's seed of power is, that's Mount Zion.

So you need to realize that. I mean, if you

thought there was a thing such a thing as replacement theology,

we're obviously talking about it now because obviously these angels

know why these children have been taken to heaven. Just

take note that. Just take note the Revelation chapter twenty

said that those who died on earth that were the

dead in Christ, they get resurrected and are given thrones.

Guess what, Daniel chapter seven states that these who go

to Mount Zion they're given thrones. This is true replacement theology.

These one third of angels that are cast down to

the earth like ripe figs. The Book of Revelation says,

guess what these chill and obviously take their place. That's

painfully obvious. But you're gonna reject that if you reject

that the war in heaven is caused by children, yes

it is. Yes, it is. The whole reason why the

one third of the host of Heaven come down is

to kill the children. That's why they come down. So

you're certainly not this group, if you can understand my voice,

because this group will never be taught how to talk,

they'll never understand you. So Jose was correct in telling

you that they learned their linguistics in heaven. That's where

they learned their linguistics. And they are the perfect arbiters

of justice. Think about it. How could you get partiality

from a judge that is under two years of age.

They've never been corruptible. Now I did say that in

the proper tense. I said, a B L E. They're

not corruptible. They can't understand what you're saying, and they

can't say what you're saying. They are incorruptible. That's what

the Book of Revelation says in chapter fourteen. They have

no guile in them. That's what some translations say. This

is true. This is a true statement. So who are you?

I mean, the male child is the easiest one to

figure out. It's the other group that's pretty all, pretty

scary to think about. But make no mistakes, they got

it coming. Does that surprise you that I said that

they got it coming? They got it coming, just exactly

like the ones that had it coming the last time

God instructed people to be sealed. That's in Ezekiel chapter nine.

Yes it is. Oh you thought the first group to

ever be sealed by God was in Revelation chapter seven.

Huh No, no it's not.

So.

I'll just come right out and tell you it's the clergy. Now.

The Bible says this in more than one place, correct, Hose, yes, Matthew,

I mean we did a whole series on it, right,

three part series. Yep. Okay. God is going to take

his bad shepherds of his people and he's going to

litter the planet with their corpses. Oh yes he is,

Yeah he is. Oh yes he is. And the only

ones that's going to survive. Well, I already said it.

How have you ever read his ego chapter nine? You haven't,

have you? Well you've listened to it though, right, many

of you, especially you devoted Catholics or devoted Presbyterians or

devoted Methodists. You read through the Bible every year, don't you.

You've let it and you never listened to it. You

heard it, but you didn't listen to it. Because in

that chapter, the ones who get sealed are the ones

who are mourning over what's happening. And you do have

those voices here, and those are the favorite of the shepherds.

They are They have quiet congregations scattered across the world.

They might only have ten or twelve people attending their church,

but they're highly loved, they're highly sought after by their members,

and they are mourning these these and I wish there

was another word for it, and perhaps Rose will take

umbrage with me, but I would just call them abominations.

And I don't have them problem with the truth, and

I never did, never did have a problem with the truth.

I mean, how many of these pastors are doing jail time?

Jose a lot? Matthew. Okay, so you need to understand

that there are pastors out there that are really Christians,

because I'm here to tell you the majority of people

that hold a pastorial license, they're not Christians, they're not.

They're abortionists, they're alcoholics, they're addicts. I mean, there are

many things, but they're not Christians. That is to say.

First John chapter three says, they're the ones that are

acting like the devil, and they are children of ev

They're children of it, the devil. That is so, guess

what if you ever believed when you read is Zeko

chapter nine, you knew what was coming or you knew

what was coming up from. You knew what was coming

up from. Certainly if you'd read Jeremiah chapter six, don't

have time to give dictation on that. You've already read

it every year for the past twenty years, as you've

read through the Bible of a year. Right, So, I

know some of these things that you're hearing right now

is upsetting. I know they are. It's upsetting. You've never

heard these things before. One things for sure, they are true.

They are true. You know, let's talk about this for

a minute. They would be fair that everybody found out

where jose came from, because he came from somewhere. I mean,

this wasn't his first rodeo. So say, what church were

you brought up in?

I was brought up in the Catholic Church, Matthew, we.

Have members of Maranatha ministries that are Orthodox. Most of

them are some flavor of Protestantism. So don't feel like

you're special whoever you are out there, because you're not.

But at the end of the day, you have to

realize that First John chapter three needs to be read

and accepted to be what it is, and that's the truth.

And you have Christians that act like the devil, and

you have Christians that act like God, completely different. Normal

people call that holiness, right, and that's a bad name now, right, Jose, Yes,

that's actually a derogatory term. If you practice holiness, that's

a derogatory term. They call those people heretics. Oh yes

they do, Yeah, they do. They lie and say that

they have a worked, works based salvation. Of course they

say that. But anyway, First John chapter three says it

best if you act like the devil, if you're an abortionist,

or you or or you're a thief, or if you're

a liar, if you practice lying. Okay, I mean there

are some there are some careers. That's actually what the

job description is, you practice lying. I mean, I'm just

gonna put a for instance, in here, uh Jose is

not lying the number one descriptor of a used car salesman. Yes, Matthew, Yes,

it's not funny, is it.

No?

How about an insurance agent.

You say, whatever it takes to get the sale, Matthew,

that's right, whatever.

It takes to get the sale. It's it's not funny,

ladies and gentlemen, it's it's not funny. So it's important

that you understand who you are and what you are,

because until you accept that you have, you have no

possibility of accepting what the timeline is. You're quite simply

uncapable of doing it. So guess what the book of

Ezekiel does. It tells you all about you. Next, Yeah,

it does. If you read Ezekiel chapter nine, and then

keep right on going and read Ezekiel chapter ten. Guess

what it does through shadow and silhouette. It tells you

exactly what happens in Revelation chapter seven. The first eight

verses is like reading Ezekiel chapter nine. The rest of

the verses is like reading Ezekel chapter ten.

It is rohnological, it is sequential, and it's true because

the latter part.

Of Ezekiel chapter seven sts you where your boy.

Whose already spelt beats he told you. Well, I mean,

let's say relations have twelve. It says that God prepares

a place for you. Did you know that Revelation seven

second part?

That's it?

Does it describ for you? Oh, God prepared to place

for you? Yes? Its yes, it does. Believe it or

not that does on skin. I'm not gonna debate.

That, but you I can prove it football, because the

Grit language is exactly.

It says exactly what it means. There's no daddy in Greek.

Come right and tell you, and you need to know this.

Revelation seven says something holy and entirely different than Revelation

chapter twenty one. Because Revelation chapter seven says he will

tabernacle over us macca in Greek. That's not what Revelation

chapter twenty one says. It says that he will dwell

with you, and oh my goodness. Talk about Catholics and

you tell him that they get mad. They get mad

as a hornet. You want to know why they're rejectionist.

They reject the millennial brain of Christ and they say,

God the Father never comes down. They lie and they

say that Jesus only comes back, and that's it. When

Jesus comes back, he immediately recreates the heaven and earth. No,

that's a lie. No, God the Father comes back after

the millennial reign of Christ. That's when the Second Resurrection

is and he reforms everything back through the garden. Because

you know where we're going to go. I'm gonna tell

you where we're gonna go. You remember that special place, Jose,

when God would come down every day in the cool

of the evening and walk in the garden. Amen, that's

where you're going. That's where you're going. And oh my goodness,

that makes the Catholics mad. But take no, they ain't special. No, no, now, now, now,

don't don't think I'm picking on the Catholic Now am

I picking on the Catholics? Jose, No, Matthew, these things

I've told you is true. They're true. You need to

know how time works. You need to know what your

part is if you are alive and remain during the tribulation.

You need to know who the other people are. You

need to know who your enemy is. This is one

of the important things you need to realize about Bible

prophecy and why One of the verses that I read

mentioned the beast from the Abyss. The Bible, God's Holywood

says this, that the angels who sind are into Taros

in Greek. Do you know what that is? That is

the proper name for the Abyss in Greek. There is

the place called the abyss. That's a general term bottomless pit.

Its proper name is to Taros. That's exactly what the

Bible says the angels are incarcerated in. So you should

know when the book a Revelation says the beast from

the Abyss, you're supposed to know that's an angel who sinned.

And I appreciate it if your translation says that, no, no,

it says the angels are in hell. I appreciate that.

I appreciate that that is not what the Greek says.

It does not say Hades, It says to Toros. So

when I say you need to understand who is who,

you need to understand why there's even a war in heaven.

But there is a war in heaven and it's with angels,

and some of these angels are incarcerated in the Abyss.

It's very important that you know that. And this is

the most terrifying aspects of the great tribulation. And it

amazes me how nobody ever says that. They says that,

you know, the trumpets are bad. They say them, you know,

oh my goodness, the seals are back. Oh my goodness,

the bulls man, they're terrible. Guess what, ladies and gentlemen,

I'm gonna give your heads up. You don't know what

to be afraid of. Into you in the presence of

the fallen, and they can do to you whenever they want.

Let me say that again. They can do to you

whatever they want. There's no one thing they can't do

to you, and that's kill you. And I'm gonna give

your heads up. God is so mad, He is so

mad at what his shepherd's has done to his flock

that he orders death to flee from them. Write this down,

you're gonna need it. Revelation chapter nine, verse six. And

those falling they hate your guts and they're gonna throttle you.

I hope you didn't hear that here first, because if

it is the first place you've heard it, boy, you've

got a lot to learn in short order. Because this ministry.

I don't think I don't have opinions. I hope with

all my heart that the birth pain started in February

of twenty four. That's not what I think, That's not

what I can That's what I hope you see. I'm

hoping in my redemption. I'm the one person you've probably

ever met in your life. I actually desire to see

the Lord Jesus Christ wreckic on creation as he stampedes

across that. I want to see it. I'm here to

tell you the truth. I don't want to see the

awful Tower. I don't want to go to the super Bowl. Now.

You probably think I'm crazy, don't you. I don't want

to go to Waikiki Beach, whatever else these people want

to do. You want to do whatever else you want

to do. Uh, you know, to go to Cancun. Never

been there, have no intention to be there. What I'm

trying to tell you is that I'm probably the only

person you've ever heard say this. I actually it is

my soul's desire to see his return and to receive

my redemption. I have no care whatsoever how much I

have in the bank. I'm gonna tell you something's gonna

blow your mind. Watch this. Watch this, ladies and gentlemen, Jose,

if I always.

Had a job, Oh, yes, Matthew.

Am I lazy? No? Have you ever even known me

to work less than forty hours? No, Hose. I want

to tell you the truth, and it's going to shock you,

but it is true. I've never owned a new vehicle.

Did you know that the vehicles I own right now,

right now, one of them is a two thousand and

five and one of them is a two thousand pen. Now,

now all of you understand what I'm saying is true.

What I'm saying is a fact. You can look these

things up. If you thought that I was setting here

on this role because I had some scheme to make money,

you're grossly mistaken. I don't give a flying brip about

your trash. I'll tell you what I care about. I

care about getting what God promised to his people. Everything else,

as far as I'm concerned, can burn. I want to

see God's people receive what the Lord their God has promised.

That's what I want. And you can ask my children that,

you can ask my wife that they quickly tell you

that's true. I don't care about anything else. So that

puts this ministry on a different schematic. That puts it

on a different page. I am desperate for you to

realize that the Lord, he is your God, he really is.

She has not been entuned upon his throne, and you

need to do a little bit more than give him

yip service. And most of you won't even do that.

Most of you, if you do anything, you'll just buy

a T shirt that has a Scripture verse on it,

and a lot of you won't get the shirt if

it actually says Ecclesiastes on it. You only get a

shirt that has a saying from Bible on it. But no,

I'd say up words of Hm. I'm pretty good guesser,

because the spirit is with me. It tells me about

sixty seven percent of you won't even do that. You

won't even take a Scripture verse and put it on

your social media, as you know your coworkers are following you,

and you don't want them to see that you're a

Christian because you'll know it'll lead to your termination, which

reveals who you're really in love with, doesn't it. Jose, Yes,

ladies and gentlemen, I'm here to tell you the most

important thing I'm going to tell you this tonight is

that the Bible is not confusing, and the Bible is true,

and it's truer in ways that a lot of you

can't even understand. I mean many of you, was say,

fifty percent of you have trouble with mathematics. You can't

do higher math o. They boy, I've shared an awful

lot concerning just the mathematical prophecies of the Bible, right right,

And you would say that alone proves the Bible's true. Right.

Yes, So.

These end time entities are important, and where to get

them is important. And Jose said that Revelation chapter twelve,

there's the woman and her children. Now, thus says the Lord,

she has two different types of children. She has beloved.

She has beloved sons, and she has first born sons. Now,

I'm gonna say this, and you can write this down

and use it against me if a quarter off need beats.

Matthew said, thus saith the Lord, because he does. He

says exactly that. She says what just came out of

my mouth, that there's two different children that she has.

You're gonna have to write this down. I already mentioned

it once, but you need to get something to write

with because this is true. It's in Jeremiah chapter six.

Now a lot of you have problems with that, you know,

with that type of thinking. But I'm telling you that

it is true. It is. Jeremiah chapter six, verse twenty

six says that she and look, it's gonna mention her. Okay,

it's gonna mention her. It uses a different name for her.

But listen to me. It is true. We can go

through these categorically. Write this down Amos eight ten. Write

down Zacharai twelve, verse ten. Let's go here. It plainly

states both groups. It states, I will put it on

the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the

spirit of grace and supplication. Then they will look to

me whom they have pierced. Yes, they will warn from him.

As one mourns for his only son, this is beloved.

Some translations say beloved son, and grief for him is

one grief for a firstborn son. Now would you like

to know what that is in Hebrew? Because I can

tell you beloved is shocked. Yeah, it is, yes, it is.

Write it down first four, firstborn is before. Yeah, it is, yes,

it is. I hope you wrote that down. Did you

want him? In Greek? It's a gopitos. That is, well,

all of you've heard that, you thought that was deep

learning to know that a God they love is how

God loves us. Well, this is the noun. It's a

gop coast beloved, the beloved son. In Greek, the firstborn

is pro totkos. That is, so you need to know.

That's why Revelation chapter twelve says she has two different

types of sons, shes firstborn and chess beloved. It's important

you know those verses. It's important that you look on

It's important that you know what they mean. Because God

wasn't trying to confuse you. He was actually giving you

highly technical data that was detrimental to you knowing what

is to come. It's detrimental for you only what is

to count.

Jose your thoughts, No, Matthew, I agree with everything you've

been going through. Knowing that the three entities helps you

understand the timeline, and really it helps the Bible make sense.

Because you have passages that describe what you know, what

sounds like tribulation language, and and if you read it

without understanding the entities, you think, well, this is what

the church has to go through. And then you'll read

those passages that like an Obadiahorg talks about saviors of

sending them out Zion. And it's if you don't understand

who that is, you think, well, maybe that's us, Maybe

that's the church that's gonna go up to heaven with God. Right,

I mean, you just there's just a lot of confusion

that enters when you don't understand who is who. But

if you understand that right now, us Christians that are

alive and are in the pews and our and are

reading our Bibles and are praying daily, we understand how

Jesus himself described us as the bride and he's the bridegroom,

and hold that and understand that that is our main

role in function, you know, unless unless we screw up,

unless we reject him, unless we fall into temptation, unless

we seek after these bad shepherds Matthew and follow after

what they're teaching. And if we can keep that in focus,

then it will help us under stand who the other

children that are being described in Revelation chapter twelve is.

Hey man, help us understand why Daniel twelve says that

Michael is there to protect the sons of the people.

Right different ways it's translated.

But Daniel chapter twelve, what it says is Revelation chapter twelve.

That's what it says.

Amen, Yep, yep, yes it is, Yes it is.

Read the first verse. Daniel Chapter twelve, verse one is

all about why there's a war in heaven. Revelation chapter twelve.

Revelation chapter twelve just gives you more details. It's the

inside scoop on Daniel chapter twelve, verse one. Yes it is,

It always was, it is, and it always us it

isn't it always wont I always knew that, you know.

Let's talk about this, Jose. We're getting close, and you

said something that triggered something in me from earlier. You said,

people are following these bad shepherds. Right, well, we had

private text last night and earlier today, right yes, And

we're not going to tell the details. I just want

to talk about your response. You said that there is

a a movement for people to go back to the

Apostolic churches. Now you pointed out, you clarified because you're

not trying to make a fight, you know. Of course,

I appreciate that you said Apostolic churches are Catholic churches,

and orthor Doc's churches right right, So can you discuss

publicly why you told me that, why you've or where

you heard that from that there's a movement now for

people to return to Apostolic churches. Can you can you

give some infol on that place.

Yeah, I mean, I I've discussed before, Matthew that I

listen to other Christian channels, other Christian videos. I read

about what other Christians are talking about because I want

to know what's going on in the body. I want

to know what people are chasing after. I want to know, well,

I mean, honestly, I'm looking for signs of the birth pangs.

That's what I'm looking for. And a lot of the

stuff that I've been encountering, Matthew is people that are well,

sometimes they'll describe it as they're they're looking into the

early Church fathers and they're they're not seeing their church

described in those discripts. Some people point to the Dedicay,

there's other other early church fathers that people can look

up that it just doesn't look like a lot of

the modern churches that we see, whether they be Protestant

or Evangelical. And so these individuals will start or start

seeking and start going back to try to find the

true church or try to find the right church.

Right.

But a lot a lot of what I've seen, the

reason why this has done, Matthew, is because those churches

that they're in, they see, they see what's creeping up Antinomianism,

which we've talked about a lot of progressivism is creeping

into into a lot of churches. And I'm not saying

that that's not in those Catholic or or Orthodox churches.

But again, people are just seeking, Matthew. They're just seeking

for a church that's going to hold to what they

what what they know is taught the Ten Commandments and

the Beatitudes, and they're they're going to these more. Oh

there's different different words for the for the these churches, right, Matthew,

But I'll just say Apostolic churches, because that's how they

how they describe themselves. You're you're Catholic and your your

Orthodox churches seeking, Matthew. That that truth seeking after well,

a church that is more more conservative but also just

more more steadfast against against all these modern ideas that

are popping up, Matthew. So that's just what I've been

seeing in a lot of a lot of research that

I've done. So that's why when you shared that text

with me and I responded to you that that's that's

the first thing that came to mind. My My concern

about that is, you know, if you're if you're just seeking,

if you're going, if seeking to church thinking that's gonna

make you a good Christian, Matthew. We know that's not

true because every church has its issues. Every church in

somewhere or form, goes against God and against the Bible

because of their doctrine and their dogma. But you know,

if if if you're seeking a church because the church

are currently and you you know it is not teaching biblically,

you know, is not it doesn't have the Holy Spirit

in there, then then there's a lot of a lot

of Christians, Matthew that are going back to these more

older churches.

So you're looking for this now, I appreciate how you

put it Signs of the Birth Pains Book to what

you meant was you were looking for signs that the

four spirits of Heaven were stirring up the drive on. Amen.

That's that's what you meant.

Amen.

Now, ladies and gentlemen, you probably should write this down okay,

the four spirits of Heaven. Some translations say the four

winds of Heaven. Take noe. They are in Ezekiel chapter

thirty seven. They are in Daniel chapter seven. They are

in Revelation chapter seven. That's pretty easy, right, write this down,

the four spirits of Heaven or the four winds of Heaven,

all depending on the translation. They are particularly in three

exact chapters. Ezekiel thirty seven, Write that down, Daniel chapter seven,

write that down, And in Revelation chapter seven. That's where

they're at. That's how Jose knows that the birth pains

must must be evidence for the four spirits of Heaven

stirring things up. And I'm gonna be truthful with you.

I absolutely agree with everything that just comes out Jose's mouth.

People are tired of going to church and hearing from

the pulpit you can live like the devil. And it's

usually the young mothers that get uncomfortable with this. They're like, well,

if we can do anything and still go to heaven,

I kind of don't want you watching my child outside

of my presence. Guess how I know that. Ladies and gentlemen, yeah,

if it's coming from your pulpit that you can live

like the devil. It's because that's who's running your church. Look,

write this down too, First John chapter three. Read it

and believe it. If you don't believe it, you cannot

understand what is to come. Let me say that again,

make it real simple for you. If you can't read

First John chapter three and believe that it is literally true,

you will never understand what is going to happen. You're

never going to understand what is to come ever, because

guess what your clergy is going to have you chasing

your tail? And guess what everybody that's present and accounted

for in this fellowship right now can all testify to

that they will have you chasing your own tale. The

last thing on earth they'll do is tell you what

the Bible says is going to happen. All right? I

think that's enough, don't you, Jose I do?

Matthew?

Amen? Amen? So why don't you pray us out of here? Please?

You're heavenly Father whom we love and serve. I thank

you with all my heart for this time that you

have set apart for us to gather together. I'm thankful

Lord that this fellowship has so many individuals right now listening.

I am thankful that this fellowship is going to have

so many people listening in the future and the archives.

I'm thankful that you've given us this platform. I'm thankful

that you've given us your word, Lord, so we can

discuss you, discuss your son, discuss your Holy Spirit. I

thank you for sharing with us what is to come.

I thank you for preparing the woman so that we

may become the bride. Father. I thank you always for

your promises, and I ask that you bless the ecclesia

with remembering those promises, even as we enter the birth pings,

even as we enter tribulation. Lord, and as always Father,

I ask that you please give us the strength to

continue to seek the lost, so that we may bring

them home to you, Father, so that your will may

be done. We ask all this in the name of

your son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen, Amen

and Amen.

Until next time, ladies and gentlemen, God bless God speed.

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