S3E08 Fellowship: Reconsidering The Atonement

Okay, everybody, welcome to the program. Tonight's wow. Aaron and

I've been discussing this privately for here, what a couple

of weeks maybe, and it's just a progression of you know,

Jesus Christ came to save us, but what on earth

does that mean? I mean, there were steps he had

to take for the redemption, and the question is was

he redeeming all of mankind? So now everybody's saying or

is it just those people who accept Jesus Christ? So

all these things and there's steps, there's steps to things

that had to categorically be I don't know how to

say that fixed or repaired. I guess the best word

is to be restored, right, Yes, So in that tonight,

we're going to to cover Philippians, Chapter two, verses five

through eleven, which which well, is an integral part to that.

I think you're correct, and this is the perfect place

to start because it gives, well, it gives some very

important details as to what's going on.

So especially the reason that I picked this out of

all the verses that deal with the situation is because

it is one of our oldest Christian records of this idea.

Because as we we all should know the epistles. The

Pauline Epistles are the first writings of the New Testament.

They predate the Gospels. And in this text here it's

quoting a hymn or a creed that was recited before

paul wrote this letter, of course, through the Holy Spirit.

And this is.

It's an artifact. When you look at this, it's not

just the word of God. It's an artifact helping us

look into the past at what Christians were believing immediately

after the Crucifixion. And this is really important, especially in

the academic area, this passage specifically, because it shows us

not just that Christians understood that Christ died and rose again,

but it shows that they thought that Jesus was God.

But this passage is controversial in the fact that many scholars,

while acknowledging that it was written probably within a few

years of Jesus's death, like a lot of them, will

date it within the thirties and Jesus as we know

that Jesus died in the thirties AD, and so if

they're dating it this this is probably this is an

extremely vital fact to our understanding of what Christians thought

about who Jesus was and what he did for us,

and not only that. If you miss this, you won't

understand the New Testament.

No, you missed it. If you miss this, you've missed it.

Yeah, And so it's controversial because as we're going to

get into it, some people interpret it to mean that

Jesus became God. And that actually was an area of

struggle for me because there was some implications here that

made it kind of sound like it. But when you

actually get into what it's trying to say, there's another

theme that is unveiled. And I'm going to read that

if you'd like, unless there's something else you wanted to

say before we get.

Into it, I'm good. Go ahead.

So it's Philippians, chapter two, verses five to eleven. Have

this mind among yourselves, which is yours. In Christ Jesus,

who though he was in the form of God, did

not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,

but emptied himself by taking the form of a servant.

Being born in the likeness of men and being found

in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to

the point of death, even death on a cross. Therefore,

God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the

name that is above every other name, so that at

the name of Jesus, every niche should bow in heaven

and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue

confessed that Jesus Christ is a lord to the glory

of God the Father. Now, so I guess we can

go to this verse by verse.

Sure.

First thing I want to point out is in verse five,

in Christ Jesus. This is a very common phrase that

we see throughout the New Testament. It's the way that

I was taught to read it in the evangelical college

that I went to was that this was kind of

like metaphor more just in Christ in some kind of

like you know, metaphorical sense. But if that's what's happening,

then the New Testament seems to really like that metaphor

because it uses it all the time, and it interestingly

gives no indication that it is metaphorical, when in actually

quite the opposite when it says that we are in

Christ Jesus. You're not saved if you're not in him.

In fact, salvation is understood as being united with Him,

especially with his body in his crucifixion. But we may

get into that at this time, But I just wanted

to point that out in Christ Jesus that will come

up later. Verse six, who, though he was in the

form of God, did not count equality a thing to

be grasped. Now, that's exactly what the Greek literally says,

he didn't consider equality something to be grasped, And a

lot of translations say he didn't consider it robbery to

be equal with God.

Right, you know what's bad about that, don't you. Now

that's a form of the word that most people use

for rapture Harpotso, so yeah, that's what is it. G

seven twenty four or seven twenty six. Anyways, seven twenty

four and seven twenty six is all variations of the

same word harpozzo.

Right, And when we look at this, it's literally saying

something grasped. And so critics will say that it's saying

that Jesus became God because he's grasping or he or

he's taking it from the Father. But there's just this

problem here that says, though he was in the form

of God, he did not count equality something to be grasped,

but emptied himself. So this is this implication that he

was something before he took the form of a man,

that he emptied himself of what he already had right

so that he could become a man. Now, when we

take this expression emptied, it doesn't mean that he emptied

himself of divinity, which would make no sense. It's saying

that he just rid himself. We see this in other

passages in the New Testament, that he was rich. Though

he was rich, he made himself poor. So there were

the riches that were of divinity, like omnipotence and omniscience

in all those things, but he didn't allow himself access

to his omniscience, to his omnipotence while he was on earth.

We have implications that he didn't do any of his

miracles without the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit descended on

him at baptism, and then he starts doing miracless right.

So this is the implication that he's not invoking his

power as the Son, and he did that on purpose,

not that he wasn't able to he was simply using

the Holy Spirit. But he was doing that because he

wanted to be the example to humanity so that humanity,

ultimately we will be able to do miracles. He literally

says it in the Gospels that they would be able

to do greater miracles than even him. And so when

we look at this, you need to understand that when

he's emptying himself, he's saying he's not going he's not

using the divine powers that he actually deserved. When it

says that not even the son knows, but the Father knows,

he was purposely limiting himself. Because we will get into why,

because the why is the only way you can understand

the New Testament. I agree, Is there anything else you

want to get out at verse six?

Let me take a look at verse six. So again no,

I'm pretty good with that. I just did want to

interject that, or maybe I'll do it in the next one.

But we have this, this idea from the Book of Ephesions.

This this Greek word when it refers to us once

he ascended, it says that now, well, our place is

at biorno. It's it's not in heaven. It says, it's

above the heavens with Christ. So everybody might want to

take a look at a word study of that for

g h that But that's what that's what's being talked

about here, That that this idea that you said in

the beginning that that that somehow we're somehow we're attached

to him or where he's at, even though how do

I put that, even though we're not glorified yet, we

do get to see the Holy Spirit just like he did.

We can work miracles through the Holy Spirit, just like

he did so, and because of that, our place is

actually well the only I mean, we don't have a

word for that in English. There's only two words above

the heavens, right or above the heavenly. So so that's

working into this idea. So go ahead from there verse seven,

I guess, yeah. So in verse seven, he emptied himself

taking the form of a servant, being born in the

likeness of men. So he emptied himself.

He's humbling himself even though he deserves all honor. He

deserves to be incocorporealble incorporeal, which being corporeal is by

definition being limited. So he's limiting his infinite power. And

so that's by definition going to humble God. But he's

choosing to do so, to take the form of a

servant being born in the likeness of men. And this

isn't also interesting that he's choosing to be a servant

of all things. So he's not just going to come

around as God incarnate and say and just boast of

who he is. Literally you will find in the Gospel

of John. And this is being used by Muslims Unitarians

to say that Jesus wasn't God because he did worship

the Father, he did pray to the Father, he did

say that the Father is the one true God. He

worshiped him. And why is God worshiping himself? And obviously

these are two persons, the Son and the Father are

not the same person. But why is he worshiping divinity

when he already has divinity? But that's what's happening here,

when he's choosing to be a servant verse eight and

being found in human form, he humbled himself by being

obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.

God is being obedient.

God is being And this is a this is one

hundred and forty four thousand dollars question, How can God be?

How can he be disobedient? Well, who's he obeying? You

know exactly who? So he's obeying himself or what? This

this further presents presents this conundrum that he has disconnected

himself from his divine attributes. Yeah, that's what this is

trying to say. He he took on the form and

here in the Greek both times it's in the plural

masculine and the thropos he took on the form of

of being God. Being theos singular, he took on the

form of anathropos men or or you know, mankind. So

it's just saying that again in a different way. It's

ramming at home that he is God. But for this instance,

for this manifestation, he shed his divine power because that

was the and we haven't got to that yet, but

for some reason, that was the only way that he

could save us from our sins, right, he had to

do this. So a lot of people miss that. They

don't realize how important the baptism, which is of course

the Bible says that he just wasn't baptized. That's when

he was anointed, that's when he was ordained to do

his ministry.

Was there when the Holy Spirit, And there's just multiple

problems with that. People point out about the New Testament,

that is, specifically Muslims and Unitarians. If you're talking to them,

they're going to bring this up, especially the apologists they're

going to say certain passages where Jesus says the Father

is greater than I. He does say that in the

Gospel of John, and it does say that he obeys

the Father in everything. And it also here's the issue.

Why would Jesus be baptized if it was the baptism

for the remission of sins? So everyone was going to

be baptized to confess their sin and have him washed

away through baptism. So why is Jesus doing this if

he has no sin? Not only that, afterwards, when Jesus

rises up out of the water, the Father says to him,

you are my son, with whom I am well pleased.

Now there are some attestation and some argue that the

text to me have originally said the Father said to him,

you are my son. Today I have begotten you. So

there's this idea that there's he being reborn or the

new birth at baptism, which Jesus promises in the Gospel

of John. Well, if that's the case, then Jesus can't

be God right because he's being born again in baptism.

Why would he need that if he was to sinner?

And so all of these things that you're we're putting together.

You need to take a moment. And the other thing

that you need to understand is that unitarians rely upon

the fact that they don't believe the Bible is infallible.

They think that it's full of errors. So they saying

so when they point to these verses, they say, these

are the ones that weren't corrupted, right exactly, So when

we do believe that the whole Bible is inspired, we

take all those verses and we can't take them lightly.

That said that the Word became flesh, that the Word

was God, and without him nothing would have come into being.

That has come into being. That we have many passages

that says that Jesus created the world. And so so

how do we make sense of all these passages. Well,

in this passage that we just read, you understand that

it's it's integral that you unders that Jesus had to

obey in the incarnation. He had to obey for some goal,

some motive, some goal, for some reason.

And just take note here it says it again to

the Greek because here in this verse verse eight, some

translations were differently, but you know, found to be in

an appearance of the man or form of a man.

That word there is schema in Greek. It means form.

He only took on the form he is God. And

it's saying in the Greek here that that that he

put that off and became the form of a man.

So it's saying this in every you know, every which

way he can say it in the Greek here, letting

you know that he has separated himself from power. And yes,

it's true. Well, I would say, just to qualify your statements,

I wouldn't say that he just like took away his

own divine attributes, because he always contains them as.

The essence of God. But what he did was he

chose to behave within the attributes of man, right right, right,

he chose not to behave with the attributes of God

because for a reason. But that's what this word means

in Greek. Schema means well, it's it's it's it's where

we get the word word schematic for. It's saying that

for this time period he adapted himself to to the scheme,

to the to the form, to the condition of a human,

of a man.

That's what it's saying. It's not saying he was not God.

That's not it's saying you say he took on the

schema of Anathropos.

So when you say that in Greek, you're not saying

he become a man.

That's not what you're saying. So you know the translation

and pose a problem here. No matter what translation you're

looking at, that's the real issue here, right.

One of the reasons that I think if we want

to have a perfect translation, you might have to end

up with something more like something dynamic, because some words

need multiple words to describe to have a direct equivalence.

Right right, you're absolutely correct, But then it doesn't become

an exact translation.

Right, Well, the question the question is is is an

exact translation one that exactly emulates what the text is

trying to tell you, and rather than trying to apply

one word to each word, is a word for word

translation even possible? If one word can't be we don't

have a direct equivalent in English for one right, so agreed,

Which everybody needs to remember. This is where compound words

come from. Compound words come from the Greek, that's the word,

that's where they originated. Know whether combat worn than the

other other language. That's why God did this in the

subcuag that's why he did it. And many people don't

realize that you have.

To get really down into the language to figure out

way to admit it. These are compound words. Yeah, that's

that's where it comes from. So unfortunately English is not

that dynamic. There is no more an exacting language than

going to be a Greek, which isn't so it does.

You know, you have to.

If that wereked, if you were to have a literal translation,

you would have Jesus God's nose burning and I and

feeling joy in your kidneys.

Feeling joy in your kidneys. Yep, that's true. That's that's correct.

So becoming obedient to the point of death, even death

on a cross. Therefore, God has highly exalted him and

bestowed on him the name that is above every name,

so that at the name of Jesus, every knee should

bow in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

and every tongue confessed that Jesus is Lord the glory

of God the Father. Now we see similar language to

confessing that Jesus is lord in Romans chapter ten. If

you confess that Jesus is Lord, you shall be saved.

And when the text kind of exegies what that means.

It quotes the Book of Joel that says that whoever

believes in the name of the Lord will be saved. Well, here,

when it says Lord, it's saying the tetragrammaton the name

of God Yahweh. So it's saying that he's confessing that

Jesus is Yahweh, you will be saved. So if everyone

is confessing that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of

God the Father. But here's the issue. If we read

nine again, it says, therefore God has highly exalted him

and bestowed on him the name. And so here's that

big issue, which I said, actually caused me to doubt

at one point in my life not very long ago.

And actually this study has strengthened my faith in my

under not only that it's opened my eyes to things

that that I had been missing as a Christian when

I was reading the New Testament. When I tell you, you

can't understand the New Testament if you miss this, you

don't understand it. You can't because this is a fact.

It says that Jesus was exalted, Yes, that he was

giving something that he didn't have at some point, at

some point, and he's exalted to this position. And so

but if we reel out a little bit, don't freak out,

because he was in the form of God prior. Right,

he was in the form of God, but he became

took on the form of a man. Then he was exalted.

Then he was given the name after the resurrection.

That's what it's saying, right, And yes, he was exulted

at look he it's kind of hard to relay that idea,

but yes, he received something that God gave him in

physical form was the resurrection. It says that God raised

him from the dead. Yes, and God did that and

then gave him this name so that he would rule

over all the nations. Here, why, here's another issue.

Doesn't Jesus already have the authority to rule the nations

before he became incarnate, after all, he created them. So

Jesus is receiving something here after his resurrection, and then

he just caused all these questions, while how is he

receiving it if you already had it? Well, this goes

into what he's doing at the incarnation though incarnation is

the gospel. Yes, here's something that you miss, like like

I was told in Sunday School that the gospel is

Jesus dying instead of me. Well, the New Testament doesn't

say that. In fact, it has Jesus preaching the gospel.

How can he preach the gospel before he was even

crucified if that's what the gospel is. And literally, when

the angels appeared to the shepherds, they say, what do

they say? We bring good tidings of your same language

of gospel, Gospel means glad, good news. And so the

gospel was that God became incarnate, right, and and so

the incarnation is intagril for your understanding of what He

did for us, his overarching mission. Now, the crucifixion and

how he takes away our sin is a step in

that overarching goal to save us. And and.

I'm gonna have to bring it something we brought up. Well,

I already brought it up, but Acts chapter three, verse fifteen,

and killed the Prince of life, whom God raised from

the dead, of which we are witnesses. So so here

you got this idea, but incorporated this is you know,

I don't know if I want to say it yet.

We talked about tonight, Well, tonight we we took communion.

So should I bring that up about his dual role

that it says there.

Prince end save here. Let's wait a little bit on it, okay,

because I want to move to Hebrews. And then I

think Hebrews actually deals like right, yeah, Amen, deals with

it a little bit more specifically.

I agree, And that's going to be our next fellowship.

Right. No, I want to go with it here because

you can help us understand, all right, All okay? So

Hebrews Chapter one, it starts out saying, long ago, at

many times and in many ways, God spoke to our

fathers by the prophets. But in these last days he

has spoken to us by his son, whom he appointed

as error over all things, through whom he created the world.

He is the radiance of the glory of God, the

exact imprint of his nature. He upholds the universe by

the word of his power. After making purification of sins,

he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty

on high, having become as much superior to angels, as

the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs.

Were you listening now, Let's talk about who he is

by his essence, right, he is the radiance of God's glory,

the exact imprint of his nature. He even upholds all creation.

He created the world and he upholds it.

So you realize that that phraseology in English, we would

translate that that to say that it is saying that

he is the silhouette of God.

No, I would say like it's The idea is more

like he's he's the beams of light radiating from him,

unless if you say unnecesssary, were referring to the exact imprint,

part I was referring to the exact imprint.

Pot.

Okay, a silhouette is created by the beams of light

you're talking about. It has to be coming from a place.

So this is saying that the Lord, so God, the

Father is is the event horizon. It is where the

light comes from. Jesus is that silhouette between he and us.

Yeah. And and to kind of exegy a little bit

of what you said, we have other passages that say

that Jesus is the image of God, is the image,

the exact image of God. And when they use this language,

it's referring to the Jewish understanding of Genesis chapter one

when it says in the image of God, we remained yes,

and so well they were like, well, God doesn't have

a form, so how can we be made in his shape? Well,

the way, if you're reading the Targums, which is an

Aramaic paraphrase of the text, they interpreted its meaning that

we were made in that the image of God is

the word of God. He is basically the visible manifestation

of the Father that can appear in our world.

Right.

Yeah, you could say God is here. God is there

only when you're referring to this specific person of the Trinity,

because the Father is everywhere. Of course, the Sun is

kind of everywhere in that sense, because he flows out

from the Father. But if you're looking at it from

that aspect, well, we also have this problem with time.

Okay, God is everywhere, and that's not good enough. That's

not good enough to say he's everywhere. You have to

say he's everywhere every wind. So Jesus Christ in this fabrication, right,

he wasn't everywhere in every win. He took on our form,

He took on our scheme, as I was saying earlier.

So you can't have an exact representation of God inside

of what is manipulated by time.

So he is.

He is the approximation of the Father in this environment

or this dimension, you know what I mean. So you

have to be able to grasp that before you can

go any further. And it's very hard to translate to

people that, No, you don't understand. The Creator does not

experience time. He's not a slave to it. He's on it.

So he had to take a silhouette of himself and

put it into the the schematic of a man.

Yeah, and when and I guess we can get onto

Christology in another or on eternity in another in another study.

But I just want to emphasize that point that we're

talking that Jesus is in the set. He's literally the

creator of the universe. Yes, he flows out from the

being of God, the literal radiance of the Father, right,

and and.

He's able to uphold the whole universe.

Okay, But then after making purifications of sin, he sat

at the right hand of the Majesty on high. So

after he made purification of sin, he sat on the

right hand of Majesty, and having become as much superior

to angels, as the name he has inherited is more

excellent than theirs. And so again you have this language

of he was this, and but he became this. He

was this, now he's this, But there's always this. This

means of how he became. He became this. He became

this because of his death, his obedience of the death,

which made purification for sins.

Well, I, well, I you're phrasing that wrong.

His innocence unto death, his innocence unto death.

Because this is why the Bible plainly states that that

that Christ is the final atom, because Adam lived, but

he did not make it today without sinning.

Right.

This is and I don't need to get in and

I don't need to get too far off the rails here,

but that's what this is trying to say, that that

he made it to death innocently. He did not fall

like Adam fell, so he becomes I mean, you have

to understand there was only one person who ever had

a shot of being perfect. That was Adam. Yep, he

had the shot of being He was formed in the

image of God, and he made it to his death innocently.

So this is what you know. This is what undid

that right, This is how he saved us.

Right.

So and that's I will introduce a term that you

may not have heard before.

It's called recapitulation.

It's the idea that Christ did all the things that

humanity was supposed to do when it was created, specifically Adam.

There was that humanity was created to rule over creation

in such a way as he just described that he

to have that name above all other names, to have

that authority of every nation, everything above the earth and

everything below it. That's and we can get into what

Adam was in another podcast as well, but just there's

this idea that there was what humanity was supposed to be,

and Jesus does what humanity was supposed to do. But

in his life, even though he obeys perfectly, more so

than anything any human that ever came after Adam, he

became more obedient than any of them, and yet he

suffered all the consequences that they suffered. He He's kind

of like, think about there's always casualties in war, right,

There's always in a innocence who die, right, And you know.

Well, no, wait a minute, innocent people that die in war.

That's called collateral damage. So I just want to make

sure everybody got there.

Yeah, So basically, let's say there's a ten year old boy.

And you know in Russia, he didn't do anything wrong

to the Ukrainians. He didn't do anything to him. He

let's say, he even likes the Ukrainians. He wants the

Ukrainians to win the war. And he is killed by

a Ukrainian missile that was aimed at the Russian government

who did intend to destroy Ukraine. I'm not making a

political statement here, it's just an example. And in the

same sense, Christ becomes collateral damage.

Yes, and that's when he gets the prince of this

world right.

Between the eyes, right, because he is not a casualty

of war. He'th collateral damage. Yeah. And you're just made

God collateral damage. Which that takes us to Hebrews chapter two.

Amen. Yes, that's a.

Start in verse fourteen. Since before since therefore the children

share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of

the same things, so that through death he might destroy

the one who has power over death, that is the devil,

the devil, and deliver all those who, through fear of death,

were subject to lifelong slavery. For surely it is not

angels that he helps, but he helps the offspring of Abraham.

Amen.

Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in

every respect, so that he might become a merciful and

faithful high priest in the service of God, to make

propitiation for the sins of the people. For because he

himself has suffered when tempted, he is able to help

those who are being tempted bingo. And so Jesus, by

recapitulating humanity, he becomes the perfect one to represent us

in the Divine Council.

Because well, you just that's a bombshell.

Now think of it. Think of it like this every time,

every time that before the incarnation, every time when Christ

was in the Divine Council and he defended humanity, Satan

would just say, well, you don't know, you're not one

of them. You've never been tempted before, that's right you.

If you were tempted, just like humans, you would just sin.

Right.

But Jesus proves this is not true, because when he

became a man, he said, no, this is just just

think of job here, the Book of Job. Right. If

you take this from him, then he will curse your name.

Right, and.

The great irony to about throughout the whole Book of Job,

which you probably missed when it says, I have a mediator.

My mediator will represent me H, my redeemer lives. When

Job says this, he's not thinking about Yahweh. He's not

thinking about God. He's thinking about a member. There must

be a member of the Divine Council who represents me,

my guardian angel, and he's going to defend me. But

the irony is is that he doesn't know that his

defender is Yahweh himself. The whole book. He doesn't realize

until the end that it was Yahweh who was defending

That's right. But when Jesus, when Yahweh becomes flesh as Christ,

when that happens, then he is able to trump literally

everything that Satan has to.

Say, yes, Yes, which is the second part of that

verse I was going to share, go ahead. He So

when you look at that, this creates the facilitation that

I mean this statement. If you've never heard it from

the pulpit, Aaron was right, you probably didn't know what

you're talking about. So Acts chapter five, verse thirty one,

Kim God has exalted to his right hand to be

prince and savior, to give repentance to Israel and forgiveness

of sins. He just said, Jesus Christ became two things.

He became our prince and he became our savior. So

it's not until you realize this that you have to

work that all out, that this is why he did

everything exactly the way he did it right, because now

he is not only the perfect sacrifice for our sins,

the perfect passover land, he's the perfect one because he

was not a casualty of war. He was collateral damage.

And through this he ascends to this divine counsel, like

you said, and now he is the prince of humanity.

And this is how the scripture mentions it. But this

is how the early Church fathers understood what Christ did

on the cross, that when Satan kills Jesus, he did

so under the law. Satan used the law to kill Jesus.

And think about this, Jesus, if you look at the

law for what it literally says, he did break it

how he said I am God, Jesus. If a man

were to say I am God, he's committed a crime,

not just under Jewish law, which would be punishable by

death under Roman law as well. If this man was

claiming to be God incarnate, he would be challenging Caesar,

which is treason. Right, So Satan con condemned Christ under

two laws. But even but this is how Satan controlled us.

When you read Romans, it says that the law became

death to me because sin, seeing opportunity in the law,

became death to me. So Satan was using the law,

as we see, he was holding them in slavery by

fear of death. Right. When it's talking about this death

and the wages of sin is death. It's talking about

the execution laws. By death, you shall die. If you

do that, by death, you shall die. Yes, And so

ultimate spiritual death is hell right. And this is how

Satan held humanity in bondage by the law. He used

the law, which even came from God, to manipulate and

control humanity. He was using the righteous commands of God

to drive people into sin, into temptation, and by all

their sins he held them in bondage. Okay, So all

the things that I ever did, every time that I

ask a prayer to God to save me, Satan's gonna

appear under the Divine council and say, hey, look look

at all the stuff he did. He does not deserve

any help from you God. And this is what Satan

had done for many sent for thousands of years. This

is what kept humanity far from the presence of God.

Satan was technically right. He didn't do anything wrong. He

was just convincing humanity to do what they're always going

to do. Right. All he did was just put the

cookies in front of their face, knowing that they're going

to take it if we solve them. And and that's

how he controlled humanity and kept them as his slaves.

And so when he kills Jesus under the law, he

doesn't realize Jesus isn't lying when he says I am God.

He's telling the truth. So even though he kills him

under the law, he kills an innocent man, he kills

Satan becomes a murderer and thus guilty of the punishment

of a murderer.

Right. But the problem was.

He was God. That was the problem. Although he was

crucified for saying that he was God, he was not

a casual of war. He was not lying.

He was Yes, he was, he was God. But and

this is why, remember we go all the way back

to the temptation, right, we go all the way back

to the temptation realizing This was what Satan was trying

to do. Satan was trying to establish proof.

This dude really is God.

Only God himself could take stones and make them bread.

Nothing else could do that, right, So Satan was looking

for proof and Jesus wouldn't give it to him. He's like, no, no,

the law says this, and he kept turning the law

back on Satan. Right, So Satan's like, this guy is

not he's not God. Let's go ahead and kill him.

He sinned. I caught this guy in at Catch twenty two.

He said he's God and then guess what he was God?

And that was the final straw. Satan had no idea.

He did not catch Jesus under the law. He did

not execute him. According to the law, he was collateral

damage and he became.

Ultimately, Satan became. He didn't execute Jesus, he murdered him,

and the Satan now has the guilt of a man's

blood on his hands.

Right, it was not an execution. It was a murder

because the Sate was unjustly done. You're right, there's a

big difference between a murder and execution. An execution is

carried out via judgment. Execution is the condemned. They're condemned

because they are caught in violation of the law, just

like we have the casualty of war and collateral damage.

You have a murder and you have an execution. Satan

did not execute Jesus. He murdered right, and in so

doing he dethroned himself. He was cast out because of right,

because of what he did. And he and Jesus plunders

all his goods, everything that he had held in bondage

by their sins, breaks them off. No longer does Sin

bind us anymore, because he's like and when Satan holds up,

look at all this stuff he's done.

I already paid for that.

And and he says this in Philippians chapter two, verse ten,

if you can catch it, if you have your eyes open.

He comes out and tells you there's.

Three places people can be and a throw post can be.

There's three places and a thropost can be.

They can be in paradise, they can be alive on earth,

or they can be condemned.

In Haitis.

It comes right out and says that. It says that

at the name of Jesus, every new shoe bow, those

in heaven and those honor and those under the earth,

that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is lord

to the glory of God the Father. So when you

realize this, this is why, of course he did the

harrowing of Hell. No one understands, ladies and gentlemen. That's

why he did it. That's why he had to go

where everybody was. So there was people in Paradise, which

Paradise is loudly declared to be into Third Heaven. Correct Now,

at the horrowing of Hell, that was the whole thing.

It wasn't Paradise. It was Abraham's bosom. So Jesus goes

to Hell, and we've did an episode on that. I'm

not gonna spend a lot of time on that. But

he set those captives free and translated those who were

the children of the Promise. She translated them from inside

of Hades. This this guff that separated. He translated those

up to the Third Heaven. That's what he did. That's

what this is saying.

And his victory was complete because the prince.

Now you said this earlier, you didn't explain it. You

will die by death, that's what the Hebrew says. Why

don't you explain that for a second.

In Hebrew it says uh, which just means dying by death.

You will die by death.

And I thought it was kind of funny when I

first when Dad bought me the Geneva Bible, which is

basically prior it was. It was the first translation before

the King James Well, I wouldn't say the first translation,

but the first translation in English from Hebrew and from

Wickliffe had done it, but from Latin so and in

it it translates literally by death, you'll die. By death,

you shall die. And I thought it was so silly

when I first read it, but it's really what the

Hebrew says, and we need to realize.

This is why the Bible says that the angels will

carry you to where you're going. The angels have that

job of taking you either to hates or to paradise.

It plainly states that, yes, so this is why Satan

is death and death is satan. But now he catches

God murders him. So now Jesus Christ is over all

that he has fixed what Adam failed at. He made

it to death completely perfect. Just like Adam. He was

the perfect.

And the only way I could say it is silhouette.

That's what it is. He was the perfect silhouette of God,

unblemished without sin, and and Death murdered him, not executed him,

murdered him.

Yeah, because we digestly adam digestically. Just when we will

read in Genesis chapter three, you shall surely die. What

the Hebrews really saying is by death you'll die. That's

the sort of language, and it is execution language. When

you disobey this law, you're going to be executed. And

when it said I like the language by death you'll die,

because in that culture, the term for the demon that

represented death in Canaanite lore, and I think it's also

evident in the Old Testament is mot He was literally

just called death, and I think that that's actually who

Satan is in the New Testament is the same character.

The prince of the underworld is a demon. He's an

malevolent figure who's by definition death itself. So when it

says by death you will die from breaking this law,

he says, then you become the property of death. If

you violate the law, you become Death's dominion, you become

death sidekick.

Because so literally we might as well come out and

say this everyone need is to know that that word

in death for Greek is thanatos. That's what death is, thanatose,

and it is a Now it's not a verb. So

literally you could say that that that's what any angel

that comes to you that hates you to where you're going.

And take note, I mean, we don't have time to

get into that. But the New Testament does plainly say

that we have angels that.

Stand before right, just as I described, they're part of

the divine council. So they might be your personal thanatos.

Right, we can if you're if you're righteous, if you're righteous, if.

You're righteous, I would say you have an escort. He

becomes They become your escort.

I say more than that, you cannot make it to

the Third Heaven without them. If you die, you're naturally

going to be sucked into Hades. Right, your soul is

going to naturally naturally gravitate to eighties. So literally a

Christian must have this escort, this thanatos.

Yeah. Anyway, but as we read in Romans, death reigned

from Adam till Moses. And that's what it says. That's

literally what it means. It's anthropomorphic language. It's it's not

just this abstract spiritual concept literally death as a person

ruled as king from Adam until Moses says, and and

so when we see this this understanding that the ultimate

I mentioned, how there's this mission that Christ brings out.

How much more time do we have, Well, it looks

like nine minutes.

Okay, I want to go to I'll try to close

out with one more verse first John three eight. The

one who practices sin is of the devil, for the

devil has sinned from the beginning. The son of God

appeared for this purpose to destroy the works of the devil.

So here's your answer to that question. Why did Jesus come,

Why did he come in the flesh? Why did God

become man to destroy the work of the devil?

This works of the devil.

When it says it's he saved us from our sin,

we're talking about the tools that Satan was using to

keep us in slavery, in bondage to death. And so

when he does, when Christ takes away our sin, Satan

is defeated. He's lost everything he's done. It's over great.

He's lost everything that he used to control us.

He loses his power to to take us to Hades.

Let's just say that I like that language. He's dragging

us to Hades, because we're not supposed to.

Be there, right, we are not supposed to right exactly.

They everybody needs to realize the original problem. This is

the original problem. What Genesis chapter three did was create

quite a conundrum because Adam wasn't created to die. So

now when he dies, wants his his soma and his

norma is separated from his psyche. Now you got this

big problem, and that is wherein the devil reigns.

He reigns in that place.

That that Adam was never supposed to die, Eve was

never supposed to die.

Yeah, humans aren't supposed to be in Haites.

It's supposed to be there. We don't belong there.

It's what's an abnormality. It's an abnormality to the human condition.

So the scripture Jesus literally tells us that Hell was

prepared for the devil and his angels, not for us,

not for us, So when humans go there, it's by

nature abnormal. Humans aren't supposed to be there, and so

that's why it's supernatural. That why we have to be

excorted by the angels to another place, because otherwise we

would just simply go to this place that Satan. That's

Satan's dominion. And once you understand deaths as a dominion,

as a state of being that is apart from God,

then you understand exactly what He saved you for some

it was a rescue mission, literally was the rescue. And

so it has multiple steps. The first step is the incarnation.

The second step is recapitulation. He becomes the perfect man.

The third step is expiation. He dies, and he and

for us, He expiates all ours and he takes it

all away so that we can enter into the Divine Council.

Then he is exalted. He sits in the right hand

of the Father in the Divine Council as our representative.

So that number five, we can become as we were

meant to be theosis or givemanization. We are united to

Christ through his humanity in the incarnation. We can be

partake in God through Christ because we are united to

His body right in the incarnation. So in that that's

what that's the how like, that's the significance of having

the Holy Spirit. We have God's spirit in us.

We have God's spirit.

What does that mean? Well, your spirit is in your

flesh right, right, it's in your body, right, that's what

animates your body. Well, it's telling us that when we

have God's Holy Spirit, were are His body. We are,

we are attached to Jesus. And because of that we

are able to be healed internally from that which is unclean,

can be healed and reconformed to the image of the Sun. Yes,

so that we can be restored to that place from

which Adam fell. That is the gospel, my friends. Well,

there's one more part that's got to be done.

We must be glorified, right, And that's what I'm describing

that happy at the return of Christ.

That's what I'm saying, is like theosis or divinization is

the process by which at the end of it there

is that point where we are fully conformed to the

image of God, not just in our spirit, but also

in our flesh.

Yeah. Yeah, that well, let me use the same Greek

Greek words that these Greek words are from one Uscalonians

Chapter five, verse twenty three. We're a trinity, Okay, in

Greek that is soma that's body, psyche, mind, and numa spirit.

So you have to understand that these two okay, the

the the numa is fixed with the Holy Spirit. The

psyche is fixed through entire sanctification. The body is fixed

at glorification, at the resurrection, at the First Resurrection, at

the return of the Lord Jesus Christ. So no one

understands that you have to work this out. You have

to understand that all three things have to be fixed.

The Holy Spirit fixes your numa in Greek, your spirit,

entire sanctification fixes your psyche. And at the return of Christ,

when you're glorified, that fixes your soma, your body, and

at that point you are married to God the Son.

It's that way. That's the only way it is. And

that's a very simplistic way to com pack this down

into one one hour. But this is the gospel. This

is the gospel. This is the gospel right here. This

is why the first resurrection is separate and it is

mandatorly apart from the second resurrection of the unrighteous. That's

why that's why we get glorified at the second resurrection.

They are damned, they're done.

They have destroyed their own spirit, they have destroyed their

own psyche. So God the Father himself will destroy their body. Yes,

that's what it says. You got to read it in

Hebrew and Greek. That's what it says, that's what it means.

So in this in order to do that, he had

to fulfill two rules. He had to become our prince

and our savior. So just don't understand that this pertains

to two things. There are two dimensions. The Bible says

this repeatedly. There's the dimension of heaven and there's the

dimension of earth. There's heaven on earth. Heaven it calls

his throne, the earth, it calls his footstool, two different dimensions.

He is. He has to be our prints in heaven

and our savior on earth. That's the way it is.

It's no other way.

Whatever you read in the New Testament, a lot of

translations will say to preach the gospel. It's actually a

reference to Nahoum one fifteen or name who one h yeah,

and it says if you want to go to the

it's saying that it's the good news that's being announced.

Preach in this text literally means to announce, and when

it says gospel, it means good news. And when we

say it in that sort of language, it kind of

deprives what it literally means. Hearing it says, behold on

the mountains the feet of him who brings good news,

who proclaims peace on Judah, keep your appointed feast, perform

your vowels for the wicked one. He literally says, Billio,

and yeah, for Billiel, shall no more pass through you.

He is utterly cut off.

He's lost his job. He is no longer death. And

if Satan is not death, he's worthless. What what what

is the Hebrew word for worthless?

Billiel?

What did you say?

Is the Hebrew word here.

For the wicked one? Billiel?

Yeah, that's right. So this is literally coming out and

saying that God is going to have to work this

out where he becomes our prince. That's what you just said.

And he even told you where it was coming from Judah.

He's coming from Judah. And when it says so, now,

I want you to understand if the gospel really is

it's the good news that's being told. Let's say, in

the mind you're supposed to be imagining, there's a war

and finally a decisive victory is found. The king on

your side has cut off the head of the other king,

and he announces victory. What happens after What would happen

after the victory was found. Would they wait till the

king arrives to the city to announce that they would

send messengers. Messengers would go first message what we are.

The messengers would go out and announce it.

Hey, and announce it to the winning city.

We've seen, we've been saved. We've been we have victory.

We have victory.

And that's when we shouldn't say preach the gospel. We

should say, announce the good news, because we are his messengers.

You're going out into the world proclaiming, Hey, but they

don't have to die. The devil is defeated. He is dead.

Now our enemy has no power over you anymore. There

will be no more casual piece of war.

Good stuff. Right then? Okay, well, we're going to open

the floor for comments. What time to have leave?

I don't have I don't have a specific tone.

Okay, all right, so all right now, let's open up

the floor for questions or comments. Really doesn't matter. That's

the wrong one eron what are you trying to do? Oh,

looks like we have comments about comments. Let me go there,

How don't.

Know what she's talking about?

For spare to twenty one Sherring mentions, I'm going there

twenty one, I'm alling about. Well, yeah, I see what

you're doing.

For this.

You were called because Christ also suffered for us, leaving

us an example that you should follow his steps. Who

committed no sin, nor was deceit found in his mouth.

So so just the idea that he did it so

that we could do it. He did it so we

can do And in case you needed any more hints

in the Gospel of Mark, what's the first thing that

happens the baptism?

Right, baptism?

You change? So what happens when when when John the

Baptist says, like I should be baptized by you, what

does Jesus say? It is to fulfill all the righteousness?

Fulfil like these these words very specifically, when Jesus says

I did not come to abolist of the law, what

did he come to do fulfill it? When Jesus, Jesus

is dying breath, what was his last word? It is finished?

It's finished.

This is the same word in every it tells in

Greets Teleosts. He's saying that any when I tell you

you don't understand the New Testament without this, you don't

understand it.

You don't.

You're right, you can't.

He fulfilled the law unto death. So when he says

it is finished, I'm the new atom now.

Right he And that's what the New Testament says. He's

the new atom, He's the ultimate replacement. And that is

what really happens. We go back to the garden of

even at the first Resurrection. That's what happens to us.

Our body becomes like atoms of us. As amazing as

that is, that's what happens. So so all of our trinity,

our body, our mind, and our spirit are all finally fixed.

We go back to the way we're supposed to be.

Yeah, and it's and we just there's this temptation to

think of heaven in the sense of like, when you

think of heaven, do you imagine that you're standing on

the ground. Is there a ground you're going to be

standing on? Are you are? Are you going to need

to turn your eyes to look at God on the throne?

Right?

Either you're thinking in like three you're only you're only

thinking in terms of what you know. You're only thinking

in terms of what you know, right, But what the

scripture promises us is so so much greater than this

I want. When I took a class in the Trinity,

I was first introduced to this idea of theosis. It's

all throughout the scripture that we will partake in the

divine nature. And what it hit me, I was like, Lord,

far be it from you to give this to me?

And I don't. I don't deserve that right. But the

Lord's plan for us is not to just stand around

and sing hymns for eternity. It is too. We will

sing songs because we are overwhelmed by what we're experience,

being unified, united, not unified, but united into the body

of Christ, into the body of God, so that we

participate in what the son participates. If it's a father right,

and that is to no longer will he directs his

love at us, but we will feel his love. We

will be in it. We will be in it.

Yeah, we will be a part of his love for

everything else. That's what you have to realize. It's not that. Okay,

No one understand this, like gentlemen that that yes, God

loves the trees, right, that's that's true. No, no, no, no, no,

He's not going to love us. We will be a

part of his.

Love now, and we will love the father as the

son loves them as the son, and we will experience

the sort of love that the father has.

For his son. Yes, that's what it says.

And my brothers and sisters. If that's not good news,

then I don't know it is.

There ain't no good news. There ain't no good news.

And that is, Yeah, that's good news.

What else do you do? You guys, have any more

questions or statements, anything to happen?

Nope, yeah, go ahead, I'm you might go ahead.

This is probably a dumb question.

But after the fact that he's he's already done what

he's done, it's it's us rejecting him. That's we're basically

walking ourselves to hell.

That's right, you are exactly right. You are submitting yourself

to the devil. Now, Adam didn't do this, Adam, he

didn't voluntarily do it. He was tricked into sitting. But

you that's what makes that what makes if you reject this,

this makes you worse than Adam. You have rejected the gospel.

Adam didn't have the gospel.

In the trees, right, I mean, he hid himself from

God's presence exactly.

He is.

Yeah, That's exactly why that happened. He was like a

fish in water and he didn't understand what it was

like to be out on dry land. Okay, so but

when you do it, you're like a fish that does

know what it's like to be out on dry land.

And you do it anyway, you commit suicide anyway.

So Ben is right. This is why when Adam went

through this change, he was confused what's happened? So he

goes and gets fig leaves to cover himself. This bears

testimony that if you do it, you are ten thousand

times worse than Adam. And I'm here to tell you

the wrath of God will descend upon you at the

second Resurrection of the Righteous.

Yeah, I have an analogy that ought to help us

understand this, and I beg you not to be offended

by the example that I give. But the guy spool

is like the emancipation proclamation in the US, all slaves

are free. All masters lose all their rights over everyone

that they had. But we know but that some of

them chose to remain with their master.

Chose to yes.

And that was even though the master in no no

longer had any rights over them, they still went and

continued to serve them. To my knowledge, they still paid.

That's the perfect example because you've literally refused the reconciliation.

God literally went into Hell to reconcile himself with them,

and they refused it.

Mm hmm. So because so unlike being forced to serve him,

you're choosing to serve him.

Right, it's a conscious decision to go to Hell. Yeah.

If we think of hell and the state of death

as being a kingdom, a state of being, and I've

come to understand that's what original sin really is. When

you're reading romans that there's there's sins like those are

the Dji do, and then there's the state of sin

being apart from God, and sin is just the kingdom

of darkness, as we find in other scriptures. It's when

you're living in a place apart from Him and who's

the ruler in that place? That is Satan. And when

you go to Hell, all you're doing is going to

the place of your father. You're just going to the

place that he owns, where he rules. And I'm not

referring to Gehenna Hell, I'm referring to the to u Hades. Yeah, no, no,

not final Haites the state of being apart from God.

That place you go before, before the.

Shadow of death. Call it what you want. There's where

Satan rules. When you so post the cross, when you

go to hell and you reject Christ, you you are

simply choosing not to be safe. You were choosing to

serve your oppressor. Because Christ finished the work.

Christ is a respector person.

So whatever he offered those that were in now he's

offering anyone else. I mean, we see this all the

time with these near death experiences with people. They literally

will will point out that they were there in their

last moment and they made a conscious decision to call

the name of the Lord right, two of them, what

was going to happen?

Right?

So the terminology for this is a sharecropper or a

tenant farmer. These freed slaves would stay on the land

and still work for the slave master. So that, like

I said, historically they were called either sharecroppers or tenant farmers.

I mean, are you serious now you'd rather stay with death?

Yeah?

Now, Now that's why I said, please don't be offended,

because I know a lot of these slaves just these

freedmen just didn't know what to do.

They were poor, they didn't have an option.

But when we think in terms of what's happening, because

because salvation is in terms of slaver, we need examples

and so, but when you go back to your master,

he's going to respect that. When we say that only

by faith are you saved, you need to understand. I

was just thinking about this on the way here. One

time I had a conversation with a guy. He said,

I don't believe in God. And I was like, yeah, well,

there's good reasons to believe that. He's like, no, no, no,

I don't mean that I don't believe God exists, because

I do. He says, I just don't believe in him

in the sense of trusting. And I took a moment

and I'm like, when Christ demands us to believe, which

one does he mean? Does he mean to believe intellectually

that God exists or does he mean to believe in

him to let us save let him save us? And

when you read the New Testament, that's quite simply what

it means. I studied Greek, and the term for faith

is in Greek peace is It literally is the word

for trust. It's the sort of language that you would

use to like you trust your wife, when you trust

your believe your friend. And so when you're trusting in Christ,

you are letting him save you. You're allowing him to

take you out of this position. But when you don't

trust in Him and you put your trust in other masters.

See this throughout the throughout the prophets.

Right Bail, Yeah, yeah.

You put your trust in Egypt, you put your trust

in Babylon, and they will stab you in the back.

This is exactly what's happening here with this with this

faith language.

And it's insane not to accept your salvation.

That that's that's.

That's so it's way more than just believing that he existed.

It's believing that he's going to take over.

And help you do outlive.

It's you're trusting him to take care of you. Just

like you you have faith in your wife or you

have faith in your son. You have to have.

Faith that he is God and he is taking care

of you. Yeah, and that's that's why faith without works

is Dad is dead. And well because because you know,

James is responding to some people who are interpreting Paul

to mean you just intellectually believe that Jesus, that Jesus

did this and this. Well, no, it's more than that,

because faith is enacting that trust.

It's enacting the trust that trust.

When you reject sin and stop living that is living

in sin, you are trusting God to do the work

within you. Right, you're letting God. When God tells you

it's going to destroy you put you in the hands

of the devil. If you continue sitting like this, you

trust him and you trust him his work when he says,

if you obey my commandments, you'd be sick and that

there's that idea that that it's a continued process. But

there's a reason why faith is so integral to that

right because we cannot save ourselves of our own strength.

If we could, then faith would not be required. There

would be no trust required for that.

This is why the whole language exist about sanctification in

the New Testament, because boy, we don't have enough time

to get in that to.

Them in well, I guess we figure out.

The other example is the other extreme people who feel

like they don't deserve to be reconciled and won't accept it,

and what they're literally doing is rejecting what Christ did

on the cross. They're saying that is greater than your

ability to cover it, right, and that's that's that is

That is incredible hubris. That is incredible pride and probably

what got Satan in trouble.

I I I can tell you that that there's been

tough times throughout my life where I didn't want God

to save me. I didn't want him to forgive me

because I felt that I deserved the punishment I deserved. Hell. Yeah,

that is, and that's true, and it's true. It's objectively

true that we deserve. That is true, to perish along

with Satan and his hosts. That's exactly true because we

had chosen that. And but it's it's about submitting to

his will ultimately, because God, it's.

Hed wants to save us.

He doesn't want to condemn us. He doesn't.

He doesn't want us to burn in hell. He wants

to save us. That's what his desire is.

So right, that's prideful, though, I mean, you're you're literally

saying when you say that is is that my sin

is greater than his ability to cover it with his

with his death on the cross.

That is a prideful decision.

I agree, But there are people who are so intelligent

that they don't realize that. They come to the realization

that man, I really do deserve to die, and they

have to come to grips with that, and that takes maturity.

You have to mature to a certain point. And this

is part of that sanctification process.

Ben, It's part of it.

Wanting God to have what he wants, which is he

wants to have as children.

Right, But that is the thought of an adult. That

is not the thought of an adolescent.

So I will say be free of bondage because I

just saw this, this this line online and it was

so profound to me, and I've been thinking about it

over the past few days. Sin feels like freedom until

you try to stop. You try to stop. But that's

exactly that's exactly correct. And let's say this, Okay, what

is the difference between.

A child an adult. The difference is is that now

an adult can do whatever he wants to. A child

cannot do whatever they want to. They will get punished

if they don't tow the line. But an adult can

do whatever they want to do. And that's why there

is this term young adult. Young adult is applied to

those people, whether men or women. It's it's applied to

all people. This tricksy little time before they realize that, yes,

I can do anything I want to do, but that

is not to my benefit. Yes, now that I'm twenty one,

I can go out every night and get drunk at

the bar. Right I'm over twenty one, I can go

to the bar. Guess what if you do that, You're

going to get fired, You're going to get evicted. You're

going to wind up being a homeless person out on

the street. So this is is that time when when

young adult become adults, when they realize I must choose

of my own volition to do what is beneficial for me.

This is the snare.

It is.

This is the snare, ladies and gentlemen of sin that

you that everyone who lives in sin thinks that it

is freedom. It's they think that it is is joy,

it is pleasure, it is it is, but I'm telling

you it is a addiction. It is bondage. It's this

is this is the slavery which which Satan has held

to drag us into hell.

And this is categorically why I told you that I

interrupt you. I'm sorry, go ahead.

That like when when you go back to your to

that old master. And except that you're you're you think

that his bondage is good as freedom. But I'm telling

you it is so much greater. Think. Think, in your think,

in your heart. Do you want to be a good person?

Everybody wants it, everybody, Okay. The people who don't want

to believe that they're a good person usually end up

killing themselves. Everyone wants to believe that they're a good person. Yeah,

And we see that in now in nowadays world, what's

what's called bad is good and good is bad. The

reason why is because that makes it easy for their conscience. Yes,

and by redefining it that just then they just don't

have to deal with the guilt. But at heart they

really want to be a good person. But what Christ

promises you that if you let him heal you, if

if you let him heal your spirit, you will you

won't have that short time of pleasure because it's always short.

Your psyche will be healed, it will be permanent, and

you won't You won't have to go to that alcohol

to feel to escape it. No, you could live in

the state of being escaped from it. Because he is freedom,

he is so taken the way is hard. Rehab is hard,

it's it hurts, and so that it will be a

time of misery. But he has sworn, and he's given

the seal of his promise, the down payment in the

Holy Spirit that he's given us as a promise that

he will free you, that he will free you, and

that he will give you that which you desire. So

so do not seek, do not seek freedom in bondage.

Brothers and sister, seek freedom through trust in Jesus Christ.

Because He has freed you from those things already be free.

That's why a couple of weeks ago, I I ask

your advice on that post that I made that there

are two types of addictions. There's psychological addictions and physiological addictions.

Jesus Christ can and will heal you from both. Yes

he can, and yes he will when he does, when

that work is complete, once you've decided, once you've decided

like an adult to do good things that benefit you

and your family and your co workers and your society.

When you decide to do that, upon entire sanctification, your

psyche will be healed, your soma will be healed from

those physiological addictions and psychological addictions. Yes, yes, he can,

Yes he can, Yes he can, and yes he has,

Yes he has.

This Holy Spirit is the down payment, the proof that

he will bring different rich and what he has begun

in you. If you trust, if you believe, take a

moment in slash trust. Take a moment and distrust the devil,

your sin, Distrust your temptations when it tells you that

you will feel better distrusted. Yeah, let that be the

thing that you do not trust. Because every time I swear,

every time you listen and you fall, we know that

you're overwhelmed with shame. That is the pain of bondage.

That is the brutality of the yoke that is on

your shoulders.

Right, that is that is the yoke of Satan. Yep, yeah,

it is, yes, it is.

It's an right. I mean, the prodigal son the life

of the bakery. And then there was nothing left and

he was ashamed, but there was no place else to go,

so he decided to return home.

That's right. The prodigal son who.

Doesn't return home stays and and hell with the you know.

He stays apper right, Yeah, he's a tenant farmer. That's

what the gospel, that's what that parable says. It says

that the unrepent son was on somebody else's farm, eaten

the slop that he was getting paid to feed the pigs,

and he realized, wait a minute, I'm not a sharecropper,

I'm not a tenant farmer.

I'm an heir. I can go home to my own farm.

You're exactly right, Ben, That's exactly what happened.

Yeah, I'm just feeling impressed that there's somebody here that

is feeling like their sin or what they've done wrong

is too much for God. And I just want to

remind you that He loves you, and he knew everything

that you did wrong when he died for your sins

on the cross, and they're not too great, and He

has forgiven you for those things, and he is eagerly

waiting for you to return home. And the only thing

keeping you from home is your willingness to take that

first step to head back home, because he will be

nothing more than excited to see you walk through that door.

Amen.

Right, there's good preaching. Everybody needs to let that sink in.

God did all this because he wanted to save you.

He wants to save you, Okay, he really does. He

really is at this point in time. He's not the

son of God anymore.

He has sended. He is God the Son. He's God

the Son.

And he did all this because he left because he

loved you. He sacrificed himself.

To pay for your sin, to pay for your freedom's right.

Because all sin was, all your sin, all your past shame,

all that is is just a chain by which the

devil held you and dragging you to hell. Amen, they've

been snipped off. Yes, they stick off. You have been emancipated.

This is right.

I mean, they take a baby elephant and they can

tie it up with the rope.

They do the same thing with the full grown elephant.

And the only reason why is because in his mind

he hasn't realized that he could snap that rope instantaneously.

That so many of us are in that same state

as that full grown elephant that weighs tons, and that

little baby rope is holding us back because we will

not accept the strength that has been given to us

by the Holy Spirit.

Man.

That's so true. Wow, wow, Ben, you get ten points

for that. You you outspoke me with with one phrase.

That that's a good word, right there, Amen to the Lord.

All right, Well now, he's gone on for an hour

and a half, So one more time, does anybody want

to talk about anything else? Going once, going twice? Okay,

going three times? All right, Aaron? What she praise out

of here?

This time? Haing of the universe? Oh Lord, you are

my king, You are my Lord, and all things I

submit my flesh to you. I submit every desire of

mine to you. I place them in bondage to your

power and your will. Lord, all of us here today

we desire for you to free us from the kingdom

of darkness. Lord, Continue to heal us internally through the

power of your spirit. Continue to transform us into your image,

because we do not love the world anymore, the world

that exploited us and took advantage of us, that oppressed us. Lord,

Never have I been more proud to be your slave,

your servant. Lord, I've never been more proud to call

you mine, because now I can declare that Christ is Lord,

declare that he has victory over power of the powers

of death, and that means something to me. I would

have never chosen any other king over you. Jesus, guide us,

Give us what you need us to do from here on.

Tell us what we need to work on in our

hearts so that we do not leave anything apart from you.

Let us leave nothing apart from you. Let us give

everything that we are to you so that you can

heal that thing Jesus. Let us live in your freedom.

Let that be our piece. Thank you for who you

are that I can't wait to live another day to

thank you and praise your name.

Amen, Amen and Amen. All right, ladies and gentlemen, Until

next time, God bless, God speed,