Sermon
S3E25 Fellowship: The Resurrection Sequence
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Hello, Jenny, Hi, everybody, what's up with you anyway?
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Okay, everything good at your house?
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You're okay?
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Good deal? So you come in now? Hello, Johnny? Hi,
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how are you?
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Matthew?
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I am good. I am good. It's amazing how good
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God is, right, amen, it is amazing how good he
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proved himself to be. So yeah, a lot of excitement
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around here, of course. Well, I mean, not every day
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you have a visitor from Europe, not every day you
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have your manager quit. I mean we're uh, we're in
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the midst of some wildly entertaining times. So and you know,
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you're not too far from that truth either. You've You've
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had a whirlwind of things going on too, so I
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guess in its own way, it's been affecting us all.
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That's why I thought to have this fellowship. Let me
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ask you, Jony, So, so, first off, I've never said
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this to you, So I'm gonna and you know how
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I am. When I have a title for something, right, So,
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there is a name for it. There is a thing. Okay,
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Now I can call it A or B, but it
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is the resurrection sequence. Okay, the resurrection is a sequence. Right,
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So if I was going to talk with this to
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a dispensationalist, i'd have to give it another name, because
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they don't. They've disassociated the facts from fiction, so I
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would have to use their language. I'd have to call
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this the rapture sequence. Right, So you are very familiar
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with this, right, yea, yeah, tell me tell me the
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sequence of the rapture. What happens first? Okay? Mmm?
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I always understood that I would see like a blood
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red moon.
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Really, boy, you're going way out in left field. Really,
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Oh that is repressing. No, no, no, don't hesitate. Okay,
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a blood red moon? So where are you getting that from?
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I don't know.
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Remember, I'm going back to all the way back to childhood.
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And that really would be the only thing I ever
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remember being told I would see before, you know.
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Just snatched, before you'd be snatched. Yes, okay, well that's
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a good way to put it. That's what I need
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you to do. You you have an English, and I
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have an English now real just beyond any context stations, right,
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So I need you to use your plain English. So
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that's very good, and that's a very good place to start.
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And that is really light years ahead of most people.
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And I appreciate that because what you're saying is true
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because Jesus Christ said before he gets here, most certainly
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the moon would be turned blown red. That's true. So
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you have to see the moon turned to blood before
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you're raptured. You're absolutely correct. The problem is this creates
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massive problems for the believer in a pre tribulation rapture doesn't. Yeah,
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And the problem is is that's where you come from.
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You come from a dispensationalized aschatology, right, yes, So that
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is very amazing to to me that somewhere along the line,
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whenever you read Matthew twenty four, you believed it, and
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you even though you're you had been dispensationalized in you're eschatology.
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And they don't say that. The dispensationalists will avoid that
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like a plague because that means it's not pre tribulation.
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That means it has to occur at his return. So
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this is very encouraging that there are many, many, many,
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many people out there in the pews that are subjugated
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to indoctrination. But yet when they read the Bible, God
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has done something to them. God has put walls up
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in their mind that no, no, you will certainly see
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the moon turn blood red before you're raptured. And I
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appreciate that phraseology you said snatched, because that's exactly that's
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exactly the phraseology that comes out of those institutions. And
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I'll be very plain with you that phraseology originated from
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Moody Bible Institute and Dallas Theological Seminary. That's where you
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got that from.
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Oh yeah, Key in my church is Moody.
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And your debt spoken of, yes, key, key spoken of
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all the time. So that is very increating. Okay, so
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after you see this blood red moon, then what happens
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just taken to heaven? M taken true Jesus?
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Yeah, the endres who cares about the earth right?
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Right? Who cares about the earth right? So this creates
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massive strictorial problems, doesn't it.
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Yeah, I've realized that they blur, you know, the day
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of the Lord, the day of the Lamb, God, Jesus,
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it's all one thing. That's all blurry, maybe just to me,
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but that's how you know. It was never taught to
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look carefully for the difference between what's going on according
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to God, God the Son.
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So what of the millennial reign of Christ? If you're
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in heaven so you're going to watch the brain of
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Christ from heaven or that just doesn't exist.
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I think there's something wrong with the audio. Is anyone
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else hearing that? What are you hearing? Get lost? Does
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anyone else here kind of sounding funny?
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Maybe my sounding? Am I sounding funny to anybody else?
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It was a little borrowed.
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Whether it's okay, now.
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It's okay, now, all right. I was just thinking that
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you was hearing my washing machine in the background as
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it was spinning.
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No, it's more like a computer. Wow, wow, wow, you know,
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let's turn it on.
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So do you need me to restate what I last said?
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Just the last little bit please?
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Okay? So, what about the millennial reign of Christ? During
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the millennial reign of Christ, you're you're in heaven watching
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that with him.
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I'll be honest, I never knew or thought about the
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millennial reign of Christ at all, right until.
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Meeting you.
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Yeah, you know, marriage, Supper of the Lamb and judgment
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Seat of Christ. This is all blurred in. Maybe it's
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my understanding, but I think it was blurred in the teaching.
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Yes, it was intentionally blurred because it doesn't make sense.
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I'm not trying to hurt your feelings.
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No, no, it's hurt my feelings at all about this,
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and so thankful that I don't believe that.
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Anymore because people don't realize that this is what happens.
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I haven't. No, I am extension. How do I say
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that ORD have mercy? I have witnessed that this at
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its crime form. If you can imagine me sitting in
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an institution of higher learning that is a Christian institution,
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having the Bible read her curriculum, and then the professor
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stand up and tell the students that are paying that
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professor hundreds of thousands of dollars that what they just
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read in the Bible is not what happens. Now, what
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Jonie's describing happened in her church by her pastor. It
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happened in her Sunday school with her teacher. No, no, no,
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I'm going way beyond that. I'm setting in the classroom
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paying these people for this degree. It's in the curriculum,
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we read these set of verses, and they turn right
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around and get up and explain to the students that's
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not what really happens. And this is what was happening
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to Johnny. The Holy Spirit was putting up boundaries in
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her mind, even though Johnny didn't stand it. Johnny psychologically
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was believing that, No, I know, there's a blood red
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moon before the resurrection happens. There's two elements to that
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that she wasn't using in her thought process. Number one,
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they do not permit you to say resurrection. They've changed
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the word. They've changed the word to rapture. And number two,
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they've never associated the event from the situation. This is, oh,
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you completely confuse, and do not be misled. You can
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only be in doctrinated by instituting total confusion. Total confusion.
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I'll explain it to you. She already said it. She
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gave to you the first part. She gave to you
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the who. The first thing they did to her was confusing.
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You don't know who who it is. You don't know
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if it's God the Father or God the Son. Okny,
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what about the What is it God the Father? Is
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it God the Son? And is it a rapture or resurrection? Okay? Who? What? Where?
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Where does this happen? Do you go to heaven or
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does Jesus come to earth? Let's go one step further.
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Where and just happened? It happens after the moon is
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turned to blood red. Now, as far as the distance
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is concerned, that can only happen if that blood moon
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snappens at sush harsh Ona. So you need to understand.
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You just can't be just indoctrinated with partial confusion. You
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must confuse the five ws. Let's go through them now.
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No one can take the five dobs from you, and
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I'll tell you why, because I pass psychology. I'm going
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to tell you why those things were instituted to you
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as facts before you were nine years old. So no
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one can ever take from you the five ws. That's who,
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what way or when? Why? No one? No one can
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take that on you. But you need to understand the
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only way for you to be indoctrinated is for you
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to be confused. At every point of the compass, everything's
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total confusion. Now let's talk about that last part, the
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why why why are we getting raptured? They never tell
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you that the why you're getting resurrected is because you literally,
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all of us has been promised to this, the the
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promised people have all been promised past, present and future
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that we will have the Son of David rule over us.
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God did not lie to Abraham. No, we didn't let
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me ask, Joni, Joni, did Abraham ever get to live
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under the righteous rule and reign of the son of David?
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No?
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No, so was God lying to Abraham? This is why, Joni.
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There's no rapture. It's a resurrection, and Abraham is going
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to have God's promises fulfilled. True. Yes he will, Yes,
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he will. So that's how far this indoctrination is gone.
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Is that you don't even realize that they change the
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word on you for a reason. Look, this is worse
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than you think, Julia. I'm gonna have to ask you
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a question. Okay, where is Abraham? Where is he?
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Is he in his own bosom?
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Where is his bosom in hades? No, it's not, You're right,
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it used to be. It's in paradise. Correct?
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Did I use the wrong word? She al has two parts,
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hades in paradise. Yeah, he's in paradise.
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I'm sorry. We know that the Bible says that paradise is.
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Where Where is paradise located in?
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She all?
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It's okay. Does somebody want to help her out? Where
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does the Bible say that paradise is? Anybody can come
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on right now. Somebody needs to help her? Where is
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paradise physically located? Where's the box.
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In Abraham's buzzom.
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That's not what I'm looking for. I don't know.
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The only thing I am saying is that it says
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about being caught up to paradise.
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So which which No, that's correct? What do those verses say? Okay?
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And I know such a man, whether in the body
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or out of the body, I do not know. God
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knows that he was caught up into paradise and heard
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unspeakable words which a man is not permitted to speak.
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You skip the verse, read, go up to verse two.
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Reading verse two, start reading, I'm not I'm not the smartest.
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Okay. I know a man in Christ fourteen years before,
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whether in the body I do not know, or out
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of the body, I do not know. God knows such
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a one was caught up to the third Heaven. So
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the third heaven is paradise.
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Okay, all right, thank you, thank you. Jinny, and Joni
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knew that. She's heard me say it a million times. Okay, she, Well,
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here's the glitch. I'll explain to you the glitch. Remember
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when I told you he has led the captives? Remember
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that phrase? Yeah, yes, yes, Abraham's bosom was in Hades,
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and Christ went and he followed Hades, and when he
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led the captives free, he led them up on high.
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Abraham's bosom was transferred from Hades to the Third Heaven. Yes,
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it was not Saith the Lord.
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Jonny, So Paradise is empty.
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Now, Paradise was relocated to the Third Heaven.
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Okay, you know what I did not know that I never.
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Got Okay, Well, I assure you that I did teach
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you that. I'm sure you did. And it was probably
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over it well, it was probably over a decade ago.
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So let's get back on topic. Okay. So Abraham he's
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in the third Heaven. Run yeah, okay, once again, we're
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talking about the resurrection sequence. So where does the resurrection happen? First?
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There they're where, say, the third Heaven?
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Yes, now, Jony, what's at the first Heaven?
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Sorry? Is that also called Abraham's bosom? No, talk about that.
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Yes, you can still call it Abraham's bosom, but it
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was called Abraham's bosom when it was in Hades before
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the Lord Jesus Christ horrowed Hell. Okay, got it, okay,
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and he moved it up to the Third Heaven. He
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set the captives free, The captives were in she old. Okay,
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you're just you're calling it the Hebrew word instead of
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the Greek word. But yes, okay, Jony, you do know this, Yes,
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you do so. So now you're saying that the resurrection
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sequence it starts in the Okay, let's talk about why.
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What elevation is God's throw? Is it like the sixteenth
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heathern or is it maybe the twelfth Heaven? Where is
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God's throng? Is that? Is that all the way up
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the letters the bottom of the ladder. How high is
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God's throng? That's be the highest, That's right, So, no
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matter what you call it, it's the highest. And the
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Lord Jesus Christ has to go from there all the
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way to Earth, right right, Okay, So he's obviously going
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to leave his throne and he's going to pass through
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the third Heaven, isn't he Yeah? Okay, it is key
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critical that you understand. This is why he said, once
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I leave my throne, she won't be in a state comedy. No, Tony,
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is it not true that the saint who arrived with Jesus?
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Is it not true they're wearing white raiment? Yes, of course,
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sont guess what Abraham's gonna be wearing when he gets here,
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White Linen, That's right, is there? I need to make sure.
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Are you confused about anything?
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Well, I'm just gonna say I did not ever grasp
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the third Heaven until today. Sorry, I did miss it.
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I missed it.
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Okay, So we have to understand. That's is why the
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Bible gives these groups two different names. Now, I'm not
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lying to you. It says there are those who are
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asleep in Jesus, and then the next verse it says
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there are the dead in Christ. These are two completely
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different groups because those who sleep in Jesus have been obliterated.
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They've been obliterated. Okay, not one cell is left of
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their body. Ladies and gentlemen, they don't have a cadaver here.
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Let's ask Joni, Jenny. Abraham's been dead for thousands of years, right, Yes,
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there's even have any bones left?
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No?
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Probably not No, No, they turn to dust. I mean,
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everybody knows, this is how they deal. I don't want
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to be mean, and I'm not trying to be mean,
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but ladies and gentlemen, you need to understand what they
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do down in Louisiana. In Louisiana. They don't bury you.
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They put you in a sarcophagus, and there you return
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to dust. The humidity is is the such and the
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temperature is the such that they literally turn to dust.
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This is what happens to Abraham.
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He's been a high not want sell left, He's just Adams.
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This is the state. This is the greatest resurrection. I'm
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going to tell you a miracle that happened. It's wonderful.
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It is wonderful. A dead man resurrected a dead man.
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I'm telling you the truth. They're once was a dead
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man that during a raid, they threw him in the
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tomb where Elisia's bones laid, and as soon as he
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touched Elisha's bones, he come back to life. Now that's
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pretty impressive, isn't it. No, no, it's not why Elisha
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had not been obliterated yet his bones were still there,
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so that would have been an easy resurrection to resurrect
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something that still has a cadaver. No, no, no, that's
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that's a mediocre miracle. The greatest resurrection is when you
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can gather together the very Adams and resurrect the one
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who does not have a cadaver. This is the greatest resurrection.
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This is the highest resurrection. You cannot go any higher
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than resurrecting the one who has no cadaver left to resurrect.
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You instinctively know this. So now we got now we
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have to progress. This happens. That's a good thing. Johnny
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is on here. It's a very good thing because she
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has been dispensationalized. So it's good that I'm talking with
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her now, Jonie, we know when the resurrection sequence begins.
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We know that beyond any contestation, because the dispensation list
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will plainly say that this happens at the last Trump. Correct. Yes, yes,
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yes it does. That's what they say, and that is correct.
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It really is correct. That does happen at the last Trump. Now,
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I'm not trying to confuse anybody. I'm really not, but
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I do have to read it, okay. One Corinthians, chapter
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fifteen Versus fifteen through fifty four. It tells you beyond
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any contestation when this happens. Now this I say, brethren,
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that flesh and blood can not enter the Kingdom of God,
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nor this corruption inherit in corruption, Behold, I tell you
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a mystery. We shall not all lead, but we shall
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all be changed in a moment, in the tweakling of
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an eye at the lara trumpet or the trumpet will sound,
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the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
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For this corruptible must put on in corruption, and this
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mortal must put on immortality. So when this co waterble
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has put on in corruption, and this mortal has put
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on in mortality, then shall be brought to pass the
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same that his written death is swallowed up in victory. This,
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of course, is from Joseiah chapter thirteen. Now the problem
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that everybody has with this is that last trumpet is
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dead in the middle of the Book of Revelation. Yes,
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that's Revelation chapter eleven. Revelation chapter eleven. You need to
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know this in your heart. Know it in your heart.
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Jesus Christ will resurrect those in the third Heaven at
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the seventh time his journey, he has to come to Earth.
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The next thing Jesus Christ is going to do is
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exit heaven. He's going to exit the spiritual realm. As
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soon as he does, your two eyeballs will see him coming.
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And I'm going to tell you exactly what you're going
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to see. You will see exactly what the madge I saw.
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Let me say that you you're going to see the
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Star of Bethlehem and the very angels that the ship.
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Do you remember ry you remember the angel showed up
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and great glory saying YadA YadA, YadA YadA. When they
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come here the next time, I'm going to use Joan's
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phraseology and they can hear the next time their gonness
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matched you up. Yes they will, yes, they will. Now look,
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when Jesus exits heaven, please understand, I must use the
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language that the Lord Jesus Christ used. So let's go
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to Revelation chapter eleven, and let's read verse fifteen. I
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don't need to try to explain to him what he
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said when I can just read it to you in
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the plain is formed. This is true. Are you willing
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to accept it? Are you willing to accept it? Yes?
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Revelation chapter eleven, Verse fifteen. Then the seventh Angel sounded
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and there were voices in Heaven saying the kingdoms. Yeah,
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that's plural. The kingdoms of this world have become the
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kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ, and he
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shall rule forever and ever. So there's two kingdoms. There's
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the kingdom of Heaven, and the Kingdom of Creation. There's
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the spiritual and the physical. At this trumpet, they've been bifurcated.
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They've been torn in two, just like the Roman Empire was.
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You all know this. It's a matter of historical fact.
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There was an Eastern Roman Empire and a Western Roman Empire.
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There were two capitals. Well, the one capital always stayed
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the same Rome. That capital in Heaven. It stays there.
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But once the keydom is broken in two, and this happens.
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He just told you. At this the seventh trumpet, This
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is when the Lord Jesus Christ exits that throne. And
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you can put whatever number on it you want to,
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but it is above the third Heaven. Once Jesus Christ
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gets coronated, he has to come down to creation. He
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has to come down to a physical level. In order
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to do that, he must pass through where those that
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are in Paradise are. So once the events that happens
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between that and when he arrives on planet Earth to
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resurrect the dead in Christ, seven Bowld judgments occur. For
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all seven Bowld judgments, you'll be able to look up
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and plot a course just like the mag I did. Now, look,
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ladies and gentlemen, I'm not lying to you. Every single
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air and nautical almanac on this planet details for you
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how to conduct celestial navigation. You can pick up any planet,
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any star in the Solar system, and you can plot
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its course of impact. That's what the mage I did.
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Exactly where the star beth where him was going. Guess what.
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Everybody in the tribulation will be able to see him
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coming and know where he's going. Now you're wanting to
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say we're a longing is a couple of weeks. You
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don't need to worry about those things right now. You
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really don't.
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You're having trouble with the resurrection sequence. You're having trouble
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with this.
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I mean, Johny right now is in a state of shock.
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The look. I need you all to realize what the
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Bible says is true. And I don't care what other
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people say. It's very knowledge what is become. You should
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understand that the spirit of truth not he can't be.
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He can't that's iding them.
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The full lesson is lost. I don't think I'm the
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only one, but I think you'll be disappointed when you
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hear the audio. It's very hard to hear you.
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If there's a way.
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Yeah, I wish there's a way to fix it. Anybody else,
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can you speak up?
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Let's yeah, it's a little it's a little in and out.
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It's a little in and out.
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Well, she's nice. It's more out than in.
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So you're missing most of what I'm saying. Is that
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what you're saying?
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At least fifty percent?
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So you haven't heard a word I said.
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Yes, I am. I tried, and I tried to speak
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up and say it wasn't.
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No no no no no no no no no no
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no no no. The spirit cannot move, Jnie. Let me speak,
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Do not argue with me. The spirit cannot move in
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a broken tongue. So I'm going to ask Laura. She
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is going to be my signpost. Laura, have you heard
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everything I said?
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I'm able to interpret the words that slur. I'm able
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to understand what the word is, so I'm able to adapt.
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You know, then this is a waste of time. I'm sorry.
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Did I hurt everybody's feelings? I need to reach the loss.
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I've learned a lot here, I don't. I just feel
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like you'll be discouraged when you hear it. I'm trying
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to be honest. I do think there's something mechanically wrong
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or electronically wrong, but I'm getting a lot out of
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what you're saying, so.
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It's not wasted, Jony.
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More or less. It sounds like when a phone cuts
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in and out when you got bad services, kind of
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what it's like. But I don't know if it's for everybody,
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but some it's bad, some it's not as bad.
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Gotcha. Well, John, have you been able to follow what
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I've said?
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Yeah, so far I've been able to.
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Yes. Okay, all right, so that's very encouraging. If okay, Well,
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let's continue this starting from right there. Those of you
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who are hearing this for the first time. I am sorry,
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and I apologize for my broken tongue. It was not
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brought to my attention early enough in the fellowship for
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me to correct it by now. But you can always
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reach out to me personally if you do. Okay, write
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this down Matthew Miller twelve sixty at mail dot com.
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It's not Gmail. Matthew Miller to t's M A T
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T H E W M I L L E R
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one two six zero at mail dot com, and I
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will talk with you on the phone until you understand.
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Just here. Recently, I was on the phone three and
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a half hours with somebody until they understood if I
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have to call into work and miss work because you
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don't understand what God is saying, send me your phone number.
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And I promise you God did not write the Bible
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to confuse you. I promise you that. So, getting back
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to the matter at hand, there are two groups, and
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there were always two groups that participate in the resurrection.
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Now I'm sorry I put it that way. There's three groups.
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I'm sorry. You have those who are asleep in Jesus,
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you have the dead in Christ, and then you have
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those of us who are alive and remain. These things
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are true, Okay, So when you know that the sequence
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of events is paramount to your understanding what's going on,
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because what is what is coming is just like a ladder.
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It's just like it. It is exactly like ladder. You
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have the first run, it's always the top ladder. Then
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you have the second, the third run, the fourth rung,
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the fifth rung. And God did this before. This is
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not his first advent. This is going to be his
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second advent. It happens just like the first time. Where
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do you think Jesus Christ was before he was born
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and laid in a manger. I'll tell you where he was. Well,
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he was in heaven, and he had the journey here
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the first people to figure it out. What's the magib.
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What I'm telling you is the truth. Now with that
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in mind, let's go to first Thessalonians, chapter four. It
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is going to tell you in plain language, plain language.
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It will tell you in plain language starting in verse thirteen.
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But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, Lord,
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have mercy. I just promised you. God did not write
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the Bible to confusion. That's what the shepherds have done.
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Your clergy has confused you anyway. But I do not
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want you to be ignorant, brethren concerning those who have
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fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.
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For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again,
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even so God will bring with him those who sleep
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in Jesus. Okay, that's one group. The first group that
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gets resurrected in the sequence is those who sleep in Jesus,
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and they're in paradise. Verse fifteen. I've already mentioned it.
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For this we say to you by the word of
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the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until
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the coming of the Lord, will by no means perceive
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those who are asleep, For the Lord himself will descend
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from heaven with a shop, with the voice of the
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archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead
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in Christ will rise. First. Hearken to my voice. Those
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who sleep in Jesus, they're in the third Heaven. They
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get resurrected first when Jesus returns. The people who were
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killed during the tribulation, they still have cadavers. Their cadavers
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are brought back to life first, and lastly us So
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in the spirit of Heaven, right in the spiritual kingdom,
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the saints get resurrected first, and then the saints in
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the physical kingdom will be resurrected in two parts, first
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the people that have dead bodies, and then the people
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that have living bodies. Now, now listen, he's getting ready
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to tell you that verse seventeen. Then we who are
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alive and remain will be caught up together with them
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in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
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And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
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Therefore, comfort one another with these words. Now, if we
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go to the Witness to these verses, I've already talked
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about it.
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Firse Corinthians, chapter fifteen, verses fifty through fifty four, it
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tells you which trumpet this is now here It just
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said the trumpet of God the witness verses. And first
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Corinthians fifteen, verses fifteen through fifty word says, that's the
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last trumpet. I've already read to you, the last trumpet.
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So it's two parts, right, there are saints in the
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Kingdom of Heaven. That's the spiritual world. The saints in
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the spiritual world they get resurrected first. Now now then
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the saints in the physical world they get resurrected. But
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the ones that have deceased, they get their dead bodies
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brought back to life before the living does. So first
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is the spiritual kingdom, then the physical kingdom. So it's
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three parts. First, Jesus is going to get off the throne,
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and he gets off. When he gets off the throne,
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he immediately starts to descend, so he obviously passes through
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the stern heaven before he enters the Kingdom of creation. Right,
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So that's when he picks up these verses called it
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those who are sleeping Jesus because they don't have cadavers.
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They get resurrected first. And as soon as they get resurrected,
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the angels will hand out to them robes that are
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made of linen. I'm telling you the truth, and then
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they will be each assigned as speed called.
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I know this.
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Because nobody can confuse you. You could take it from me.
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You cannot lie to me. The word of the Lord
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says that they return wearing white linen, riding on horses.
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Yes they do, Yes, they do. So when the Seven
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Bold Judgments are going off, those that are in Creation
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that have to diversh they've been beheaded by the beast
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from the Abyss. They have to stay dead until Jesus
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arrives at planet Earth. So he's gonna have mercy. He's
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gonna pass through the Milky Way galaxy. He's gonna wind
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up in our solar system. If he's on the far side,
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he's gonna pass the Sun first. Then he might pass
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you know, Venus, You're gonna see him do all these things.
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And the saints that are in the spiritual heaven, they've
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been resurrected. They're wearing linen robes and They're riding on horses,
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and we're going to see this happen. So the only
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difference between Christ's first advent and his second advent is
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it's gonna be brighter. Why, the same angels will be
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coming with him, but they will be accompanied with the
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saints that are asleep in Jesus, which white this very minute.
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They are in Paradise, Yes they are, Yes they are.
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I'm telling you the truth. If you think what I'm
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saying is offensive, I'm sorry. But the rapture happens in heaven.
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First, Matthew, Yes, you said they were in the third Heaven,
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not Paradise.
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Paradise has been relocated from Hades and it's been put
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in the third Heaven. Okay, Okay, Now I already had
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Jenny read it, but this is why it happened. This
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is why Jenny didn't read it in sequential order. That's why. Okay,
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So I am going to have to read it for you. Okay.
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So we're going to go there, and I'm going to
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do as Christ done. Christ wrote his word, Jony, so
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hearken to my voice because I'm telling you the truth, Jony.
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I can't must get it wrong, because I will read
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it even as he himself wrote it. Second Corinthians, Chapter twelve.
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It is doubtless.
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Not profitable for me to boast. I will come to
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visions and revelations of the Lord. I know a man
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in Christ to fourteen years ago.
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Whether in the body I do not know, or whether
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out of body, I do not know. God knows. Such
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a one was caught up to the Third Heaven. And
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I know such a man. Whether in the body or
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out of the body, I do not know. God knows.
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He was caught up into paradise and heard inexpressible words,
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which is not lawful for man to utter. So now
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no one can take this from you. Joni Pradie is
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in the Third Heaven. Yes, yes, it is. This is
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why when Jenny read it, I corrected her. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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you need to say you need to speak as Christ
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has spoken, because if you don't, that's why I started saying,
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thus saith the Lord six weeks ago. You must speak
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thus saith the Lord. And you cannot take what he
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said out of chronological order like Jenny did. She took
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it out of chronological order. Remember who, what, where? When? Why? Okay, Jony,
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do you understand. Yes, So before Christ descended into Hades,
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before that happened, Abraham's bosom was an elevated place inside
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of Hades. But since then, the Lord Jesus Christ has
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borrowed Hell. And when he ascended, guess what happened. He
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took those in Hades that was in Abraham's bosom. He
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led the captives free, and he took them all the
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way to the third Heaven. And they get resurrected first, Yes,
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they do. If they don't, they can't return with him. Amen.
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Amen.
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Is it really that simple? Yeah? It is literally elementary.
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So now all of you know the resurrection sequence. If
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you're speaking to a dispensationalist, don't say that it's offensive
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to them. And I have categorically taken witnesses and intentionally
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talked to a dispensationalist and watch them get uncomfortable. Actually
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cut it on video, watch them get uncomfortable when I
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said the word resurrection. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is
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the greatest thing that John Nelson Darby ever did you've
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changed the word? It was never rapture. Rapture is the
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Latin word for rape. Yes it is, and look it up.
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It's called the resurrection. It was never called the rapture.
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It was called the resurrection. And this is the great mystery.
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What's the mystery? How can you resurrect somebody that don't
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have a cadaver? How do you do it? How can
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you get resurrected in heaven that's not a physical kingdom? Well,
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guess what is the first thing God does? He bifurcates
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the kingdom and an exercises dominion in them both. The
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Lord now hearken to my voice. The Lord now he
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is God. And what he says, that's what's going to
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come to pass. And if you say something else, it's
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because you're the child of the devil. And for once
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in my life, I do not feel the need to
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soften my words. If you say something else, it's because
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your father is the devil. Because I plainly mapped out
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the resurrection sequence chronologically with the Bible. If you don't
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know that, and you're professing to be a Bible prophecy expert,
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it's because you are a Bible prophecy expert. That's not
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the problem. The problem is you're a child of the devil.
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That's the problem. You will not call your way into
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the Kingdom of Heaven. Don't think you're going to because
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you're not. What has escaped my lips.
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Is catagically true, categorically true.
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I have only spoken as he has written that. That's
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all I did tonight. I haven't did anything else. Book,
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Many of you come from a charismatic background. Many of
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you long and even lust for magical powers. What I'm
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getting ready to say is the most importan thing you've
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ever heard, So you better listen up. You are not
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guaranteed your favorite miracle. You're never guaranteed you'll be able
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to speak in tongues. You are never guaranteed you're going
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to be able to perform miracles. You are never guaranteed
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that you will be able to perform healings. No, no, no,
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those things are a lie. Those are gifts that the
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worthy are given. Did I get your attention? I hope
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I did. Now I'm going to tell you what is guaranteed,
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and when I say it, you will know in your
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heart is to truth. Thus saith the Lord. However, when
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he the spirit of truth, has come, he will guide
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you into all all truth. For he will not speak
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on his own authority, but whatever he hears, he will
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speak and he will tell you things to come. He
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will glorify me, for he will take of what is
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mine and declare it to you, all things that the
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Father has our mind. Therefore I said, he will take
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of mind and declare it to you. This is what
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is guaranteed. It is guaranteed that the Spirit of Truth
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will show you ronologically what is going to happen and
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what it means in the Greek the Aaucalyptus of Bistos,
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the Apocalypse of Christ. That's what the Holy Spirit guarantees you. Now,
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I'm going to rattle your cage. If your eschatology differs
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in any way, shape or form, then what they taught
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before the Council of Nicia, you're not what you think
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you all because for the first three hundred years of Christianity,
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it wasn't until Christianity was taken over at the Council
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of Nicia that there was only one prophecy model. It's
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called historic premillennialism. That's a very fancy name. It has
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an original name. It's called the plain reading prophecy model.
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You just plainly read the Bible and that's what's going
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to happen. And if you're teaching something else, it is
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not because you have the Holy Spirit. I mean, I
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just read to you the proof text. But of course
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you can reject it. I mean, if you've been raised
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in your church to reject the Bible and totally word
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anything I could clarify to you from the Bible wouldn't
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matter anyway, would it. It's amazing when you talk to
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conservative Christians. What's the worst things you can do? Oh,
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that's easy. We know that back from the fifties. Smoke, drink,
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and cuss, right in that order. Right, let me say
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it again. All of you know what I'm talking about.
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It's your common tongue. You can't smoke, you can't drink,
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you can't cuss because if you cuss, you of course
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cuss like a sailor. A sailor is not a Christian, right,
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I mean, I can categorically and psychologically are apart these
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for you. I'm here to tell you a new thing.
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You can't act like the devil and go to heaven.
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I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you. And the difference, well,
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I know I'm going to frustrate many of you. I
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know that because you've been raised, you've been indoctrinated that
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the Bible is not true. You've been indoctrinated into the
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traditions of your clergy, right, But I'm going to read
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it anyway. I'm going to read it so that you
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can understand. Okay, it clearly. First John, chapter three, verse ten.
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In this the children of God and the children of
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the devil are manifest. Whoever does not practice righteousness is
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not of God, nor is he who does not love
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his brother. For this is the message that you heard
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from the beginning, that we should love one another. If
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you act like a whore, a whore's reward you shall have.
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Every decision is a moral decision. This is what I
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taught my children from the beginning, as that is what
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was taught to me. And it separates your psyche from
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the unbodily. And it's very hard to learn, especially for
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my son Aaron. He had trouble with it. Every decision
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is a moral decision. Let's talk about smoking. Right, you
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can't smoke, you can't drink, you can't cuss. Right, Okay,
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let's take him in that order. First off, smoking, is
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it morally wrong for you to smoke? Well, let's break
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that down. First off, we have that first question. Does
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it hurt anybody else? Right, technically, no, it's not hurting
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anybody else. Does it hurt you? Boy? Surely everybody seeing
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the lungs of a smoker after death, right, So that's
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self harming. Now I got your attention, So let's go
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to the next level. It is, of course a waste
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of resources, right, it is a waste of resources. You
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certainly could take the money that you spend on cigarettes
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and donate it to the homeless shelters. Yes, you could,
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But most of you are not hearing my voice. What
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my voice is saying is this, Every decision is a
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moral decision. Is it righteous to smoke? Is it unrighteous
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to smoke? That's the question, and the only way for
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you to get your answer is through the Holy Spirit.
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I'm not lying to you. I'm straight up with you.
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In a court of law, I cannot determine if smoking
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is a righteous thing. But now there are some things
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we can clearly determine, like murder, like adultery. Those things
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are no brainers. This is what these verses in First
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John chapter three are meaning. You have to have the
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spirit of truth, and only the spirit of truth can
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inform you what is righteous and what is unrighteous. So
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do I reject somebody that calls themselves a Christian that smokes? No?
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Do I reject someone who says they're a Christian and drinks, No,
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unless they drink and drive. Now, if you drink and drive,
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you are intentionally breaking the law, which is unrighteous. Let's
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go one step further. Do I immediately reject someone who
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calls themselves a Christian that cusses?
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No?
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I don't. Everybody has this little checklist, right, and oh
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my goodness, the checklist is long. For example, do you
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know how many denominations one of the checklist? All right,
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you can't you can't smoke, you can't drink, you can't cuss,
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and you can't wear shorts. Oh, we can go even further.
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And the fourth checkbox is you can't wear red. You're
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not allowed to wear red at all. And I'm here
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to tell you something else. I'm here to tell you
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that every decision you made is a moral decision. Is
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it righteous or is it unrighteous? You need to figure
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that out first. If you deem it to be a
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righteous thing to do, go forth. And I'm here to
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tell you that if you have taught anybody anything else
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about the rapture, you will be judged.
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There.
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Any questions there, any question about anything I've said, has
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everything that has escaped my mouth? I can prove in
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a court of law. This is what the Bible, God's
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Holy Word atagorically says, and that's what it means. So
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any questions on that, I.
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Am sure I have done that. I've told my children
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that I was wrong and asked their forgiveness. But I'm
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sure I told other people all my life.
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I'm sure you have too. I mean, I mean, we could,
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we could create a timeline of where your beliefs come from, right,
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I mean they had their origins in the state of Indiana, correct.
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No, sir, I would say for me and and Dale, Virginia, Washington,
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DC area.
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Okay. So what church did you attend then?
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Evangelical free church?
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Okay?
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And Evangelical free church. So that persisted through how many states? It?
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I was in free churches before that, but it really,
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you know, I really had understanding at that point. I
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would be ten, eleven, twelve years old, thirteen, and then
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we moved to Michigan and we did not attend an
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Evangelical free church again as a family, just because we
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lived out in the country, but here in Antonio, I
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went to one, my husband and I and took the
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children and went to one here.
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Gotcha. So you plainly said that these things happened, they
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were cemented in your mind after you were nine. You
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clearly said that, oh yeah, okay, so.
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Well, but when you talk about telling other people, I
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will be judged.
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That's like, yes you will, do not be misled? Oh
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yes you will. Because the Lord now Joni, now the Lord,
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he's God, and what comes out of his mouth that's
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the gospel truth. It's the gospel truth. So these are
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the things we need to be talking about. This is
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church right now. Churchase not a building. Church's fellowship. So
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is everybody glad that I chose to do this fellowship today?
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I hope.
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So I'm thrilled that you did.
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You know it came under much dress. The reason why
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I did because other things were happening, so I couldn't
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do Philippians with my wife, so I knew I had
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to do something, so I had to do well this obviously,
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So I know, I didn't have any notes ready. I
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hope everybody realized that I just did this on the fly.
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There's no notes. I just didn't.
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I get a few refused through the week, go to
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church on Sunday, and anytime I get to hear you,
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that's a good recharge for me as well. I find
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you know, I find it just as good to commune
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and worship with you all as I do is when
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I go to church. So it's always nice to be
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recharged and edified and taught and to learn something.
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Amen. Well, I'm glad, I am, I'm glad I did it.
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Then that's that makes it worth it to me. You know,
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we all need to prepare for what's to come.
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Am I the token dispensationalist former dispensationalists? Or there others?
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No, there's there's others. There's others.
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I mean in our group.
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Yes, in our group, there's others. But okay, No, I
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wasn't trying to pick on you. I could have picked
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on them just as easy, but I didn't.
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It's okay.
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So it did surprise me that I have drilled it
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into your head, Jony, I've drilled it into your head
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about Paradise, about Abraham's bosom.
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Well, I knew that they're sleeping Paradise, but I still
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thought it was in the same place.
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So I guess that's a good thing that I haven't
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taught on on a very wow, maybe a very long
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time now that I think about it. You know, the
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most important thing about those particular verses, and it's it's
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really amazing that those verses about the rapture, well about
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the resurrection, it plainly states that those are coming from
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Oseiah chapter thirteen. They plainly say that. I mean, it doesn't,
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you know, beat around the bush. It plainly states that,
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and it quotes it literally quotes the verse, right. So
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I don't understand why people get confused about it. How
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they can get confused about it? I mean, how can
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you get confused about it? If it if it it
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answers itself and says, no, look this the resurrection and
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fulfills the prophecy. Oh death wears your sting, Oh haites
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wears your victory. The sting of death is sin, and
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the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be
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to God who gives us victory through Jesus Christ, our Lord. Therefore,
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my brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work
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of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in
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vain in the Lord. But anyway, every money needs to
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realize that the resurrection the why is hose chapter thirteen.
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Yes it is, Yes, it is. What's the verse before it?
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I know I've taught you this, Lord, have mercy. For
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thirteen the sorrows of a woman in childbirth shall come
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upon him. He is an unwise son, for he should
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not stay Lord where children are born. Then the next verse,
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I will ransom them from the power of the grave.
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I will redeem them from death. Oh death, I will
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be your plagues, O Grave, I will be your destruction.
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Pity is hidden from my eyes. If you cannot categorically
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explain what the rapture is and how the raptures an
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answer to this prophecy, it's because you're speaking the language
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of your father. Because the devil is beyond any shadow
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of doubt. Thus saith the Lord. The devil is the
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father of lies. So if you're going to talk about
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the rapture and you're not going to talk about this
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complete prophecy, at least this stanza from Hoseah chapter thirteen.
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I don't even want to hear it, no more than
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I want to hear somebody plus like a sailor, I
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don't want to hear it. I don't. I don't want
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to hear it. So I hope everybody's been edified. I'm tired,
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I'm wor out. You have no idea. I am just,
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I'm taxed. I'm I I am just wearing paper thin.
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I'm wore out, like an old rag. I'm just I've
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had enough. And you know it's and I stated this before,
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and I've been stating it, but it just occurred to
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me a couple of weeks ago. I am an answer
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to the prophecy in Second Chronicles chapter thirty and Hagi
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chapter one. Last night, I was on the phone with
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somebody trying to convince me to go back to a building.
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I'm not going back to church. I'm not. That is
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hard for me. What in God's name would my mother say?
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What would my mother would smack my mouth if she
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heard me say that? But I'm not going back. Satan
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runs them and it's I can't sit down, I can't
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get up, I can't walk, I can't sleep. It is
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plaguing me. How is it possible? How is it possible
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that I refuse to go back to church. I refuse
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to do it. So I need you all to be
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in prayer for me. Because I'm yeah, psychologically it's just
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wreck havoc on me.
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Just I can't.
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Can't get past it. I mean, as far as I'm concerned,
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I better keep my mouth shut before I start sinning.
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Who can pray us out of here? But I have
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a volunteer to pray us out of here before I
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get tempted by the devil to start bad mouthing, because
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right now I really am tempted to slander celestial beings.
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I've just I've got it with them. I've just so
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any volunteers to pray us out of here, please, I.
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Will thank you, Heavenly Father, thank you for this day.
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I thank you for Matthew, and thank you for this time.
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Thank you that you speak your word clearly through him
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and I. Pray Lord that our ears will continue to
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be open to learn to understand by your spirit. Pray
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that you will help Matthew. That you will be near
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to him in his discouragement. Pray that you will refresh him,
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provide for him for his family. That you'll bless this
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special time with the new baby and guests, even though
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it's difficult. Pray Lord about his job, that you will
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bring relief there or compensation Father, help for him. Please
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be with us this evening. Please be with Rachel heel,
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her eyes, and her body. Lord in your timing. Trust you.
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Please especially be with Jenny today and with Sherry because
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they're sick. Please help them. Father and Jesus name I pray.
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Amen, Amen and amen. Until next time, God bless, godspeed,