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S3E25 Fellowship: The Resurrection Sequence

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  1. Hello, Jenny, Hi, everybody, what's up with you anyway?

  2. Okay, everything good at your house?

  3. You're okay?

  4. Good deal? So you come in now? Hello, Johnny? Hi,

  5. how are you?

  6. Matthew?

  7. I am good. I am good. It's amazing how good

  8. God is, right, amen, it is amazing how good he

  9. proved himself to be. So yeah, a lot of excitement

  10. around here, of course. Well, I mean, not every day

  11. you have a visitor from Europe, not every day you

  12. have your manager quit. I mean we're uh, we're in

  13. the midst of some wildly entertaining times. So and you know,

  14. you're not too far from that truth either. You've You've

  15. had a whirlwind of things going on too, so I

  16. guess in its own way, it's been affecting us all.

  17. That's why I thought to have this fellowship. Let me

  18. ask you, Jony, So, so, first off, I've never said

  19. this to you, So I'm gonna and you know how

  20. I am. When I have a title for something, right, So,

  21. there is a name for it. There is a thing. Okay,

  22. Now I can call it A or B, but it

  23. is the resurrection sequence. Okay, the resurrection is a sequence. Right,

  24. So if I was going to talk with this to

  25. a dispensationalist, i'd have to give it another name, because

  26. they don't. They've disassociated the facts from fiction, so I

  27. would have to use their language. I'd have to call

  28. this the rapture sequence. Right, So you are very familiar

  29. with this, right, yea, yeah, tell me tell me the

  30. sequence of the rapture. What happens first? Okay? Mmm?

  31. I always understood that I would see like a blood

  32. red moon.

  33. Really, boy, you're going way out in left field. Really,

  34. Oh that is repressing. No, no, no, don't hesitate. Okay,

  35. a blood red moon? So where are you getting that from?

  36. I don't know.

  37. Remember, I'm going back to all the way back to childhood.

  38. And that really would be the only thing I ever

  39. remember being told I would see before, you know.

  40. Just snatched, before you'd be snatched. Yes, okay, well that's

  41. a good way to put it. That's what I need

  42. you to do. You you have an English, and I

  43. have an English now real just beyond any context stations, right,

  44. So I need you to use your plain English. So

  45. that's very good, and that's a very good place to start.

  46. And that is really light years ahead of most people.

  47. And I appreciate that because what you're saying is true

  48. because Jesus Christ said before he gets here, most certainly

  49. the moon would be turned blown red. That's true. So

  50. you have to see the moon turned to blood before

  51. you're raptured. You're absolutely correct. The problem is this creates

  52. massive problems for the believer in a pre tribulation rapture doesn't. Yeah,

  53. And the problem is is that's where you come from.

  54. You come from a dispensationalized aschatology, right, yes, So that

  55. is very amazing to to me that somewhere along the line,

  56. whenever you read Matthew twenty four, you believed it, and

  57. you even though you're you had been dispensationalized in you're eschatology.

  58. And they don't say that. The dispensationalists will avoid that

  59. like a plague because that means it's not pre tribulation.

  60. That means it has to occur at his return. So

  61. this is very encouraging that there are many, many, many,

  62. many people out there in the pews that are subjugated

  63. to indoctrination. But yet when they read the Bible, God

  64. has done something to them. God has put walls up

  65. in their mind that no, no, you will certainly see

  66. the moon turn blood red before you're raptured. And I

  67. appreciate that phraseology you said snatched, because that's exactly that's

  68. exactly the phraseology that comes out of those institutions. And

  69. I'll be very plain with you that phraseology originated from

  70. Moody Bible Institute and Dallas Theological Seminary. That's where you

  71. got that from.

  72. Oh yeah, Key in my church is Moody.

  73. And your debt spoken of, yes, key, key spoken of

  74. all the time. So that is very increating. Okay, so

  75. after you see this blood red moon, then what happens

  76. just taken to heaven? M taken true Jesus?

  77. Yeah, the endres who cares about the earth right?

  78. Right? Who cares about the earth right? So this creates

  79. massive strictorial problems, doesn't it.

  80. Yeah, I've realized that they blur, you know, the day

  81. of the Lord, the day of the Lamb, God, Jesus,

  82. it's all one thing. That's all blurry, maybe just to me,

  83. but that's how you know. It was never taught to

  84. look carefully for the difference between what's going on according

  85. to God, God the Son.

  86. So what of the millennial reign of Christ? If you're

  87. in heaven so you're going to watch the brain of

  88. Christ from heaven or that just doesn't exist.

  89. I think there's something wrong with the audio. Is anyone

  90. else hearing that? What are you hearing? Get lost? Does

  91. anyone else here kind of sounding funny?

  92. Maybe my sounding? Am I sounding funny to anybody else?

  93. It was a little borrowed.

  94. Whether it's okay, now.

  95. It's okay, now, all right. I was just thinking that

  96. you was hearing my washing machine in the background as

  97. it was spinning.

  98. No, it's more like a computer. Wow, wow, wow, you know,

  99. let's turn it on.

  100. So do you need me to restate what I last said?

  101. Just the last little bit please?

  102. Okay? So, what about the millennial reign of Christ? During

  103. the millennial reign of Christ, you're you're in heaven watching

  104. that with him.

  105. I'll be honest, I never knew or thought about the

  106. millennial reign of Christ at all, right until.

  107. Meeting you.

  108. Yeah, you know, marriage, Supper of the Lamb and judgment

  109. Seat of Christ. This is all blurred in. Maybe it's

  110. my understanding, but I think it was blurred in the teaching.

  111. Yes, it was intentionally blurred because it doesn't make sense.

  112. I'm not trying to hurt your feelings.

  113. No, no, it's hurt my feelings at all about this,

  114. and so thankful that I don't believe that.

  115. Anymore because people don't realize that this is what happens.

  116. I haven't. No, I am extension. How do I say

  117. that ORD have mercy? I have witnessed that this at

  118. its crime form. If you can imagine me sitting in

  119. an institution of higher learning that is a Christian institution,

  120. having the Bible read her curriculum, and then the professor

  121. stand up and tell the students that are paying that

  122. professor hundreds of thousands of dollars that what they just

  123. read in the Bible is not what happens. Now, what

  124. Jonie's describing happened in her church by her pastor. It

  125. happened in her Sunday school with her teacher. No, no, no,

  126. I'm going way beyond that. I'm setting in the classroom

  127. paying these people for this degree. It's in the curriculum,

  128. we read these set of verses, and they turn right

  129. around and get up and explain to the students that's

  130. not what really happens. And this is what was happening

  131. to Johnny. The Holy Spirit was putting up boundaries in

  132. her mind, even though Johnny didn't stand it. Johnny psychologically

  133. was believing that, No, I know, there's a blood red

  134. moon before the resurrection happens. There's two elements to that

  135. that she wasn't using in her thought process. Number one,

  136. they do not permit you to say resurrection. They've changed

  137. the word. They've changed the word to rapture. And number two,

  138. they've never associated the event from the situation. This is, oh,

  139. you completely confuse, and do not be misled. You can

  140. only be in doctrinated by instituting total confusion. Total confusion.

  141. I'll explain it to you. She already said it. She

  142. gave to you the first part. She gave to you

  143. the who. The first thing they did to her was confusing.

  144. You don't know who who it is. You don't know

  145. if it's God the Father or God the Son. Okny,

  146. what about the What is it God the Father? Is

  147. it God the Son? And is it a rapture or resurrection? Okay? Who? What? Where?

  148. Where does this happen? Do you go to heaven or

  149. does Jesus come to earth? Let's go one step further.

  150. Where and just happened? It happens after the moon is

  151. turned to blood red. Now, as far as the distance

  152. is concerned, that can only happen if that blood moon

  153. snappens at sush harsh Ona. So you need to understand.

  154. You just can't be just indoctrinated with partial confusion. You

  155. must confuse the five ws. Let's go through them now.

  156. No one can take the five dobs from you, and

  157. I'll tell you why, because I pass psychology. I'm going

  158. to tell you why those things were instituted to you

  159. as facts before you were nine years old. So no

  160. one can ever take from you the five ws. That's who,

  161. what way or when? Why? No one? No one can

  162. take that on you. But you need to understand the

  163. only way for you to be indoctrinated is for you

  164. to be confused. At every point of the compass, everything's

  165. total confusion. Now let's talk about that last part, the

  166. why why why are we getting raptured? They never tell

  167. you that the why you're getting resurrected is because you literally,

  168. all of us has been promised to this, the the

  169. promised people have all been promised past, present and future

  170. that we will have the Son of David rule over us.

  171. God did not lie to Abraham. No, we didn't let

  172. me ask, Joni, Joni, did Abraham ever get to live

  173. under the righteous rule and reign of the son of David?

  174. No?

  175. No, so was God lying to Abraham? This is why, Joni.

  176. There's no rapture. It's a resurrection, and Abraham is going

  177. to have God's promises fulfilled. True. Yes he will, Yes,

  178. he will. So that's how far this indoctrination is gone.

  179. Is that you don't even realize that they change the

  180. word on you for a reason. Look, this is worse

  181. than you think, Julia. I'm gonna have to ask you

  182. a question. Okay, where is Abraham? Where is he?

  183. Is he in his own bosom?

  184. Where is his bosom in hades? No, it's not, You're right,

  185. it used to be. It's in paradise. Correct?

  186. Did I use the wrong word? She al has two parts,

  187. hades in paradise. Yeah, he's in paradise.

  188. I'm sorry. We know that the Bible says that paradise is.

  189. Where Where is paradise located in?

  190. She all?

  191. It's okay. Does somebody want to help her out? Where

  192. does the Bible say that paradise is? Anybody can come

  193. on right now. Somebody needs to help her? Where is

  194. paradise physically located? Where's the box.

  195. In Abraham's buzzom.

  196. That's not what I'm looking for. I don't know.

  197. The only thing I am saying is that it says

  198. about being caught up to paradise.

  199. So which which No, that's correct? What do those verses say? Okay?

  200. And I know such a man, whether in the body

  201. or out of the body, I do not know. God

  202. knows that he was caught up into paradise and heard

  203. unspeakable words which a man is not permitted to speak.

  204. You skip the verse, read, go up to verse two.

  205. Reading verse two, start reading, I'm not I'm not the smartest.

  206. Okay. I know a man in Christ fourteen years before,

  207. whether in the body I do not know, or out

  208. of the body, I do not know. God knows such

  209. a one was caught up to the third Heaven. So

  210. the third heaven is paradise.

  211. Okay, all right, thank you, thank you. Jinny, and Joni

  212. knew that. She's heard me say it a million times. Okay, she, Well,

  213. here's the glitch. I'll explain to you the glitch. Remember

  214. when I told you he has led the captives? Remember

  215. that phrase? Yeah, yes, yes, Abraham's bosom was in Hades,

  216. and Christ went and he followed Hades, and when he

  217. led the captives free, he led them up on high.

  218. Abraham's bosom was transferred from Hades to the Third Heaven. Yes,

  219. it was not Saith the Lord.

  220. Jonny, So Paradise is empty.

  221. Now, Paradise was relocated to the Third Heaven.

  222. Okay, you know what I did not know that I never.

  223. Got Okay, Well, I assure you that I did teach

  224. you that. I'm sure you did. And it was probably

  225. over it well, it was probably over a decade ago.

  226. So let's get back on topic. Okay. So Abraham he's

  227. in the third Heaven. Run yeah, okay, once again, we're

  228. talking about the resurrection sequence. So where does the resurrection happen? First?

  229. There they're where, say, the third Heaven?

  230. Yes, now, Jony, what's at the first Heaven?

  231. Sorry? Is that also called Abraham's bosom? No, talk about that.

  232. Yes, you can still call it Abraham's bosom, but it

  233. was called Abraham's bosom when it was in Hades before

  234. the Lord Jesus Christ horrowed Hell. Okay, got it, okay,

  235. and he moved it up to the Third Heaven. He

  236. set the captives free, The captives were in she old. Okay,

  237. you're just you're calling it the Hebrew word instead of

  238. the Greek word. But yes, okay, Jony, you do know this, Yes,

  239. you do so. So now you're saying that the resurrection

  240. sequence it starts in the Okay, let's talk about why.

  241. What elevation is God's throw? Is it like the sixteenth

  242. heathern or is it maybe the twelfth Heaven? Where is

  243. God's throng? Is that? Is that all the way up

  244. the letters the bottom of the ladder. How high is

  245. God's throng? That's be the highest, That's right, So, no

  246. matter what you call it, it's the highest. And the

  247. Lord Jesus Christ has to go from there all the

  248. way to Earth, right right, Okay, So he's obviously going

  249. to leave his throne and he's going to pass through

  250. the third Heaven, isn't he Yeah? Okay, it is key

  251. critical that you understand. This is why he said, once

  252. I leave my throne, she won't be in a state comedy. No, Tony,

  253. is it not true that the saint who arrived with Jesus?

  254. Is it not true they're wearing white raiment? Yes, of course,

  255. sont guess what Abraham's gonna be wearing when he gets here,

  256. White Linen, That's right, is there? I need to make sure.

  257. Are you confused about anything?

  258. Well, I'm just gonna say I did not ever grasp

  259. the third Heaven until today. Sorry, I did miss it.

  260. I missed it.

  261. Okay, So we have to understand. That's is why the

  262. Bible gives these groups two different names. Now, I'm not

  263. lying to you. It says there are those who are

  264. asleep in Jesus, and then the next verse it says

  265. there are the dead in Christ. These are two completely

  266. different groups because those who sleep in Jesus have been obliterated.

  267. They've been obliterated. Okay, not one cell is left of

  268. their body. Ladies and gentlemen, they don't have a cadaver here.

  269. Let's ask Joni, Jenny. Abraham's been dead for thousands of years, right, Yes,

  270. there's even have any bones left?

  271. No?

  272. Probably not No, No, they turn to dust. I mean,

  273. everybody knows, this is how they deal. I don't want

  274. to be mean, and I'm not trying to be mean,

  275. but ladies and gentlemen, you need to understand what they

  276. do down in Louisiana. In Louisiana. They don't bury you.

  277. They put you in a sarcophagus, and there you return

  278. to dust. The humidity is is the such and the

  279. temperature is the such that they literally turn to dust.

  280. This is what happens to Abraham.

  281. He's been a high not want sell left, He's just Adams.

  282. This is the state. This is the greatest resurrection. I'm

  283. going to tell you a miracle that happened. It's wonderful.

  284. It is wonderful. A dead man resurrected a dead man.

  285. I'm telling you the truth. They're once was a dead

  286. man that during a raid, they threw him in the

  287. tomb where Elisia's bones laid, and as soon as he

  288. touched Elisha's bones, he come back to life. Now that's

  289. pretty impressive, isn't it. No, no, it's not why Elisha

  290. had not been obliterated yet his bones were still there,

  291. so that would have been an easy resurrection to resurrect

  292. something that still has a cadaver. No, no, no, that's

  293. that's a mediocre miracle. The greatest resurrection is when you

  294. can gather together the very Adams and resurrect the one

  295. who does not have a cadaver. This is the greatest resurrection.

  296. This is the highest resurrection. You cannot go any higher

  297. than resurrecting the one who has no cadaver left to resurrect.

  298. You instinctively know this. So now we got now we

  299. have to progress. This happens. That's a good thing. Johnny

  300. is on here. It's a very good thing because she

  301. has been dispensationalized. So it's good that I'm talking with

  302. her now, Jonie, we know when the resurrection sequence begins.

  303. We know that beyond any contestation, because the dispensation list

  304. will plainly say that this happens at the last Trump. Correct. Yes, yes,

  305. yes it does. That's what they say, and that is correct.

  306. It really is correct. That does happen at the last Trump. Now,

  307. I'm not trying to confuse anybody. I'm really not, but

  308. I do have to read it, okay. One Corinthians, chapter

  309. fifteen Versus fifteen through fifty four. It tells you beyond

  310. any contestation when this happens. Now this I say, brethren,

  311. that flesh and blood can not enter the Kingdom of God,

  312. nor this corruption inherit in corruption, Behold, I tell you

  313. a mystery. We shall not all lead, but we shall

  314. all be changed in a moment, in the tweakling of

  315. an eye at the lara trumpet or the trumpet will sound,

  316. the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

  317. For this corruptible must put on in corruption, and this

  318. mortal must put on immortality. So when this co waterble

  319. has put on in corruption, and this mortal has put

  320. on in mortality, then shall be brought to pass the

  321. same that his written death is swallowed up in victory. This,

  322. of course, is from Joseiah chapter thirteen. Now the problem

  323. that everybody has with this is that last trumpet is

  324. dead in the middle of the Book of Revelation. Yes,

  325. that's Revelation chapter eleven. Revelation chapter eleven. You need to

  326. know this in your heart. Know it in your heart.

  327. Jesus Christ will resurrect those in the third Heaven at

  328. the seventh time his journey, he has to come to Earth.

  329. The next thing Jesus Christ is going to do is

  330. exit heaven. He's going to exit the spiritual realm. As

  331. soon as he does, your two eyeballs will see him coming.

  332. And I'm going to tell you exactly what you're going

  333. to see. You will see exactly what the madge I saw.

  334. Let me say that you you're going to see the

  335. Star of Bethlehem and the very angels that the ship.

  336. Do you remember ry you remember the angel showed up

  337. and great glory saying YadA YadA, YadA YadA. When they

  338. come here the next time, I'm going to use Joan's

  339. phraseology and they can hear the next time their gonness

  340. matched you up. Yes they will, yes, they will. Now look,

  341. when Jesus exits heaven, please understand, I must use the

  342. language that the Lord Jesus Christ used. So let's go

  343. to Revelation chapter eleven, and let's read verse fifteen. I

  344. don't need to try to explain to him what he

  345. said when I can just read it to you in

  346. the plain is formed. This is true. Are you willing

  347. to accept it? Are you willing to accept it? Yes?

  348. Revelation chapter eleven, Verse fifteen. Then the seventh Angel sounded

  349. and there were voices in Heaven saying the kingdoms. Yeah,

  350. that's plural. The kingdoms of this world have become the

  351. kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ, and he

  352. shall rule forever and ever. So there's two kingdoms. There's

  353. the kingdom of Heaven, and the Kingdom of Creation. There's

  354. the spiritual and the physical. At this trumpet, they've been bifurcated.

  355. They've been torn in two, just like the Roman Empire was.

  356. You all know this. It's a matter of historical fact.

  357. There was an Eastern Roman Empire and a Western Roman Empire.

  358. There were two capitals. Well, the one capital always stayed

  359. the same Rome. That capital in Heaven. It stays there.

  360. But once the keydom is broken in two, and this happens.

  361. He just told you. At this the seventh trumpet, This

  362. is when the Lord Jesus Christ exits that throne. And

  363. you can put whatever number on it you want to,

  364. but it is above the third Heaven. Once Jesus Christ

  365. gets coronated, he has to come down to creation. He

  366. has to come down to a physical level. In order

  367. to do that, he must pass through where those that

  368. are in Paradise are. So once the events that happens

  369. between that and when he arrives on planet Earth to

  370. resurrect the dead in Christ, seven Bowld judgments occur. For

  371. all seven Bowld judgments, you'll be able to look up

  372. and plot a course just like the mag I did. Now, look,

  373. ladies and gentlemen, I'm not lying to you. Every single

  374. air and nautical almanac on this planet details for you

  375. how to conduct celestial navigation. You can pick up any planet,

  376. any star in the Solar system, and you can plot

  377. its course of impact. That's what the mage I did.

  378. Exactly where the star beth where him was going. Guess what.

  379. Everybody in the tribulation will be able to see him

  380. coming and know where he's going. Now you're wanting to

  381. say we're a longing is a couple of weeks. You

  382. don't need to worry about those things right now. You

  383. really don't.

  384. You're having trouble with the resurrection sequence. You're having trouble

  385. with this.

  386. I mean, Johny right now is in a state of shock.

  387. The look. I need you all to realize what the

  388. Bible says is true. And I don't care what other

  389. people say. It's very knowledge what is become. You should

  390. understand that the spirit of truth not he can't be.

  391. He can't that's iding them.

  392. The full lesson is lost. I don't think I'm the

  393. only one, but I think you'll be disappointed when you

  394. hear the audio. It's very hard to hear you.

  395. If there's a way.

  396. Yeah, I wish there's a way to fix it. Anybody else,

  397. can you speak up?

  398. Let's yeah, it's a little it's a little in and out.

  399. It's a little in and out.

  400. Well, she's nice. It's more out than in.

  401. So you're missing most of what I'm saying. Is that

  402. what you're saying?

  403. At least fifty percent?

  404. So you haven't heard a word I said.

  405. Yes, I am. I tried, and I tried to speak

  406. up and say it wasn't.

  407. No no no no no no no no no no

  408. no no no. The spirit cannot move, Jnie. Let me speak,

  409. Do not argue with me. The spirit cannot move in

  410. a broken tongue. So I'm going to ask Laura. She

  411. is going to be my signpost. Laura, have you heard

  412. everything I said?

  413. I'm able to interpret the words that slur. I'm able

  414. to understand what the word is, so I'm able to adapt.

  415. You know, then this is a waste of time. I'm sorry.

  416. Did I hurt everybody's feelings? I need to reach the loss.

  417. I've learned a lot here, I don't. I just feel

  418. like you'll be discouraged when you hear it. I'm trying

  419. to be honest. I do think there's something mechanically wrong

  420. or electronically wrong, but I'm getting a lot out of

  421. what you're saying, so.

  422. It's not wasted, Jony.

  423. More or less. It sounds like when a phone cuts

  424. in and out when you got bad services, kind of

  425. what it's like. But I don't know if it's for everybody,

  426. but some it's bad, some it's not as bad.

  427. Gotcha. Well, John, have you been able to follow what

  428. I've said?

  429. Yeah, so far I've been able to.

  430. Yes. Okay, all right, so that's very encouraging. If okay, Well,

  431. let's continue this starting from right there. Those of you

  432. who are hearing this for the first time. I am sorry,

  433. and I apologize for my broken tongue. It was not

  434. brought to my attention early enough in the fellowship for

  435. me to correct it by now. But you can always

  436. reach out to me personally if you do. Okay, write

  437. this down Matthew Miller twelve sixty at mail dot com.

  438. It's not Gmail. Matthew Miller to t's M A T

  439. T H E W M I L L E R

  440. one two six zero at mail dot com, and I

  441. will talk with you on the phone until you understand.

  442. Just here. Recently, I was on the phone three and

  443. a half hours with somebody until they understood if I

  444. have to call into work and miss work because you

  445. don't understand what God is saying, send me your phone number.

  446. And I promise you God did not write the Bible

  447. to confuse you. I promise you that. So, getting back

  448. to the matter at hand, there are two groups, and

  449. there were always two groups that participate in the resurrection.

  450. Now I'm sorry I put it that way. There's three groups.

  451. I'm sorry. You have those who are asleep in Jesus,

  452. you have the dead in Christ, and then you have

  453. those of us who are alive and remain. These things

  454. are true, Okay, So when you know that the sequence

  455. of events is paramount to your understanding what's going on,

  456. because what is what is coming is just like a ladder.

  457. It's just like it. It is exactly like ladder. You

  458. have the first run, it's always the top ladder. Then

  459. you have the second, the third run, the fourth rung,

  460. the fifth rung. And God did this before. This is

  461. not his first advent. This is going to be his

  462. second advent. It happens just like the first time. Where

  463. do you think Jesus Christ was before he was born

  464. and laid in a manger. I'll tell you where he was. Well,

  465. he was in heaven, and he had the journey here

  466. the first people to figure it out. What's the magib.

  467. What I'm telling you is the truth. Now with that

  468. in mind, let's go to first Thessalonians, chapter four. It

  469. is going to tell you in plain language, plain language.

  470. It will tell you in plain language starting in verse thirteen.

  471. But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, Lord,

  472. have mercy. I just promised you. God did not write

  473. the Bible to confusion. That's what the shepherds have done.

  474. Your clergy has confused you anyway. But I do not

  475. want you to be ignorant, brethren concerning those who have

  476. fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.

  477. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again,

  478. even so God will bring with him those who sleep

  479. in Jesus. Okay, that's one group. The first group that

  480. gets resurrected in the sequence is those who sleep in Jesus,

  481. and they're in paradise. Verse fifteen. I've already mentioned it.

  482. For this we say to you by the word of

  483. the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until

  484. the coming of the Lord, will by no means perceive

  485. those who are asleep, For the Lord himself will descend

  486. from heaven with a shop, with the voice of the

  487. archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead

  488. in Christ will rise. First. Hearken to my voice. Those

  489. who sleep in Jesus, they're in the third Heaven. They

  490. get resurrected first when Jesus returns. The people who were

  491. killed during the tribulation, they still have cadavers. Their cadavers

  492. are brought back to life first, and lastly us So

  493. in the spirit of Heaven, right in the spiritual kingdom,

  494. the saints get resurrected first, and then the saints in

  495. the physical kingdom will be resurrected in two parts, first

  496. the people that have dead bodies, and then the people

  497. that have living bodies. Now, now listen, he's getting ready

  498. to tell you that verse seventeen. Then we who are

  499. alive and remain will be caught up together with them

  500. in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.

  501. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

  502. Therefore, comfort one another with these words. Now, if we

  503. go to the Witness to these verses, I've already talked

  504. about it.

  505. Firse Corinthians, chapter fifteen, verses fifty through fifty four, it

  506. tells you which trumpet this is now here It just

  507. said the trumpet of God the witness verses. And first

  508. Corinthians fifteen, verses fifteen through fifty word says, that's the

  509. last trumpet. I've already read to you, the last trumpet.

  510. So it's two parts, right, there are saints in the

  511. Kingdom of Heaven. That's the spiritual world. The saints in

  512. the spiritual world they get resurrected first. Now now then

  513. the saints in the physical world they get resurrected. But

  514. the ones that have deceased, they get their dead bodies

  515. brought back to life before the living does. So first

  516. is the spiritual kingdom, then the physical kingdom. So it's

  517. three parts. First, Jesus is going to get off the throne,

  518. and he gets off. When he gets off the throne,

  519. he immediately starts to descend, so he obviously passes through

  520. the stern heaven before he enters the Kingdom of creation. Right,

  521. So that's when he picks up these verses called it

  522. those who are sleeping Jesus because they don't have cadavers.

  523. They get resurrected first. And as soon as they get resurrected,

  524. the angels will hand out to them robes that are

  525. made of linen. I'm telling you the truth, and then

  526. they will be each assigned as speed called.

  527. I know this.

  528. Because nobody can confuse you. You could take it from me.

  529. You cannot lie to me. The word of the Lord

  530. says that they return wearing white linen, riding on horses.

  531. Yes they do, Yes, they do. So when the Seven

  532. Bold Judgments are going off, those that are in Creation

  533. that have to diversh they've been beheaded by the beast

  534. from the Abyss. They have to stay dead until Jesus

  535. arrives at planet Earth. So he's gonna have mercy. He's

  536. gonna pass through the Milky Way galaxy. He's gonna wind

  537. up in our solar system. If he's on the far side,

  538. he's gonna pass the Sun first. Then he might pass

  539. you know, Venus, You're gonna see him do all these things.

  540. And the saints that are in the spiritual heaven, they've

  541. been resurrected. They're wearing linen robes and They're riding on horses,

  542. and we're going to see this happen. So the only

  543. difference between Christ's first advent and his second advent is

  544. it's gonna be brighter. Why, the same angels will be

  545. coming with him, but they will be accompanied with the

  546. saints that are asleep in Jesus, which white this very minute.

  547. They are in Paradise, Yes they are, Yes they are.

  548. I'm telling you the truth. If you think what I'm

  549. saying is offensive, I'm sorry. But the rapture happens in heaven.

  550. First, Matthew, Yes, you said they were in the third Heaven,

  551. not Paradise.

  552. Paradise has been relocated from Hades and it's been put

  553. in the third Heaven. Okay, Okay, Now I already had

  554. Jenny read it, but this is why it happened. This

  555. is why Jenny didn't read it in sequential order. That's why. Okay,

  556. So I am going to have to read it for you. Okay.

  557. So we're going to go there, and I'm going to

  558. do as Christ done. Christ wrote his word, Jony, so

  559. hearken to my voice because I'm telling you the truth, Jony.

  560. I can't must get it wrong, because I will read

  561. it even as he himself wrote it. Second Corinthians, Chapter twelve.

  562. It is doubtless.

  563. Not profitable for me to boast. I will come to

  564. visions and revelations of the Lord. I know a man

  565. in Christ to fourteen years ago.

  566. Whether in the body I do not know, or whether

  567. out of body, I do not know. God knows. Such

  568. a one was caught up to the Third Heaven. And

  569. I know such a man. Whether in the body or

  570. out of the body, I do not know. God knows.

  571. He was caught up into paradise and heard inexpressible words,

  572. which is not lawful for man to utter. So now

  573. no one can take this from you. Joni Pradie is

  574. in the Third Heaven. Yes, yes, it is. This is

  575. why when Jenny read it, I corrected her. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

  576. you need to say you need to speak as Christ

  577. has spoken, because if you don't, that's why I started saying,

  578. thus saith the Lord six weeks ago. You must speak

  579. thus saith the Lord. And you cannot take what he

  580. said out of chronological order like Jenny did. She took

  581. it out of chronological order. Remember who, what, where? When? Why? Okay, Jony,

  582. do you understand. Yes, So before Christ descended into Hades,

  583. before that happened, Abraham's bosom was an elevated place inside

  584. of Hades. But since then, the Lord Jesus Christ has

  585. borrowed Hell. And when he ascended, guess what happened. He

  586. took those in Hades that was in Abraham's bosom. He

  587. led the captives free, and he took them all the

  588. way to the third Heaven. And they get resurrected first, Yes,

  589. they do. If they don't, they can't return with him. Amen.

  590. Amen.

  591. Is it really that simple? Yeah? It is literally elementary.

  592. So now all of you know the resurrection sequence. If

  593. you're speaking to a dispensationalist, don't say that it's offensive

  594. to them. And I have categorically taken witnesses and intentionally

  595. talked to a dispensationalist and watch them get uncomfortable. Actually

  596. cut it on video, watch them get uncomfortable when I

  597. said the word resurrection. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is

  598. the greatest thing that John Nelson Darby ever did you've

  599. changed the word? It was never rapture. Rapture is the

  600. Latin word for rape. Yes it is, and look it up.

  601. It's called the resurrection. It was never called the rapture.

  602. It was called the resurrection. And this is the great mystery.

  603. What's the mystery? How can you resurrect somebody that don't

  604. have a cadaver? How do you do it? How can

  605. you get resurrected in heaven that's not a physical kingdom? Well,

  606. guess what is the first thing God does? He bifurcates

  607. the kingdom and an exercises dominion in them both. The

  608. Lord now hearken to my voice. The Lord now he

  609. is God. And what he says, that's what's going to

  610. come to pass. And if you say something else, it's

  611. because you're the child of the devil. And for once

  612. in my life, I do not feel the need to

  613. soften my words. If you say something else, it's because

  614. your father is the devil. Because I plainly mapped out

  615. the resurrection sequence chronologically with the Bible. If you don't

  616. know that, and you're professing to be a Bible prophecy expert,

  617. it's because you are a Bible prophecy expert. That's not

  618. the problem. The problem is you're a child of the devil.

  619. That's the problem. You will not call your way into

  620. the Kingdom of Heaven. Don't think you're going to because

  621. you're not. What has escaped my lips.

  622. Is catagically true, categorically true.

  623. I have only spoken as he has written that. That's

  624. all I did tonight. I haven't did anything else. Book,

  625. Many of you come from a charismatic background. Many of

  626. you long and even lust for magical powers. What I'm

  627. getting ready to say is the most importan thing you've

  628. ever heard, So you better listen up. You are not

  629. guaranteed your favorite miracle. You're never guaranteed you'll be able

  630. to speak in tongues. You are never guaranteed you're going

  631. to be able to perform miracles. You are never guaranteed

  632. that you will be able to perform healings. No, no, no,

  633. those things are a lie. Those are gifts that the

  634. worthy are given. Did I get your attention? I hope

  635. I did. Now I'm going to tell you what is guaranteed,

  636. and when I say it, you will know in your

  637. heart is to truth. Thus saith the Lord. However, when

  638. he the spirit of truth, has come, he will guide

  639. you into all all truth. For he will not speak

  640. on his own authority, but whatever he hears, he will

  641. speak and he will tell you things to come. He

  642. will glorify me, for he will take of what is

  643. mine and declare it to you, all things that the

  644. Father has our mind. Therefore I said, he will take

  645. of mind and declare it to you. This is what

  646. is guaranteed. It is guaranteed that the Spirit of Truth

  647. will show you ronologically what is going to happen and

  648. what it means in the Greek the Aaucalyptus of Bistos,

  649. the Apocalypse of Christ. That's what the Holy Spirit guarantees you. Now,

  650. I'm going to rattle your cage. If your eschatology differs

  651. in any way, shape or form, then what they taught

  652. before the Council of Nicia, you're not what you think

  653. you all because for the first three hundred years of Christianity,

  654. it wasn't until Christianity was taken over at the Council

  655. of Nicia that there was only one prophecy model. It's

  656. called historic premillennialism. That's a very fancy name. It has

  657. an original name. It's called the plain reading prophecy model.

  658. You just plainly read the Bible and that's what's going

  659. to happen. And if you're teaching something else, it is

  660. not because you have the Holy Spirit. I mean, I

  661. just read to you the proof text. But of course

  662. you can reject it. I mean, if you've been raised

  663. in your church to reject the Bible and totally word

  664. anything I could clarify to you from the Bible wouldn't

  665. matter anyway, would it. It's amazing when you talk to

  666. conservative Christians. What's the worst things you can do? Oh,

  667. that's easy. We know that back from the fifties. Smoke, drink,

  668. and cuss, right in that order. Right, let me say

  669. it again. All of you know what I'm talking about.

  670. It's your common tongue. You can't smoke, you can't drink,

  671. you can't cuss because if you cuss, you of course

  672. cuss like a sailor. A sailor is not a Christian, right,

  673. I mean, I can categorically and psychologically are apart these

  674. for you. I'm here to tell you a new thing.

  675. You can't act like the devil and go to heaven.

  676. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you. And the difference, well,

  677. I know I'm going to frustrate many of you. I

  678. know that because you've been raised, you've been indoctrinated that

  679. the Bible is not true. You've been indoctrinated into the

  680. traditions of your clergy, right, But I'm going to read

  681. it anyway. I'm going to read it so that you

  682. can understand. Okay, it clearly. First John, chapter three, verse ten.

  683. In this the children of God and the children of

  684. the devil are manifest. Whoever does not practice righteousness is

  685. not of God, nor is he who does not love

  686. his brother. For this is the message that you heard

  687. from the beginning, that we should love one another. If

  688. you act like a whore, a whore's reward you shall have.

  689. Every decision is a moral decision. This is what I

  690. taught my children from the beginning, as that is what

  691. was taught to me. And it separates your psyche from

  692. the unbodily. And it's very hard to learn, especially for

  693. my son Aaron. He had trouble with it. Every decision

  694. is a moral decision. Let's talk about smoking. Right, you

  695. can't smoke, you can't drink, you can't cuss. Right, Okay,

  696. let's take him in that order. First off, smoking, is

  697. it morally wrong for you to smoke? Well, let's break

  698. that down. First off, we have that first question. Does

  699. it hurt anybody else? Right, technically, no, it's not hurting

  700. anybody else. Does it hurt you? Boy? Surely everybody seeing

  701. the lungs of a smoker after death, right, So that's

  702. self harming. Now I got your attention, So let's go

  703. to the next level. It is, of course a waste

  704. of resources, right, it is a waste of resources. You

  705. certainly could take the money that you spend on cigarettes

  706. and donate it to the homeless shelters. Yes, you could,

  707. But most of you are not hearing my voice. What

  708. my voice is saying is this, Every decision is a

  709. moral decision. Is it righteous to smoke? Is it unrighteous

  710. to smoke? That's the question, and the only way for

  711. you to get your answer is through the Holy Spirit.

  712. I'm not lying to you. I'm straight up with you.

  713. In a court of law, I cannot determine if smoking

  714. is a righteous thing. But now there are some things

  715. we can clearly determine, like murder, like adultery. Those things

  716. are no brainers. This is what these verses in First

  717. John chapter three are meaning. You have to have the

  718. spirit of truth, and only the spirit of truth can

  719. inform you what is righteous and what is unrighteous. So

  720. do I reject somebody that calls themselves a Christian that smokes? No?

  721. Do I reject someone who says they're a Christian and drinks, No,

  722. unless they drink and drive. Now, if you drink and drive,

  723. you are intentionally breaking the law, which is unrighteous. Let's

  724. go one step further. Do I immediately reject someone who

  725. calls themselves a Christian that cusses?

  726. No?

  727. I don't. Everybody has this little checklist, right, and oh

  728. my goodness, the checklist is long. For example, do you

  729. know how many denominations one of the checklist? All right,

  730. you can't you can't smoke, you can't drink, you can't cuss,

  731. and you can't wear shorts. Oh, we can go even further.

  732. And the fourth checkbox is you can't wear red. You're

  733. not allowed to wear red at all. And I'm here

  734. to tell you something else. I'm here to tell you

  735. that every decision you made is a moral decision. Is

  736. it righteous or is it unrighteous? You need to figure

  737. that out first. If you deem it to be a

  738. righteous thing to do, go forth. And I'm here to

  739. tell you that if you have taught anybody anything else

  740. about the rapture, you will be judged.

  741. There.

  742. Any questions there, any question about anything I've said, has

  743. everything that has escaped my mouth? I can prove in

  744. a court of law. This is what the Bible, God's

  745. Holy Word atagorically says, and that's what it means. So

  746. any questions on that, I.

  747. Am sure I have done that. I've told my children

  748. that I was wrong and asked their forgiveness. But I'm

  749. sure I told other people all my life.

  750. I'm sure you have too. I mean, I mean, we could,

  751. we could create a timeline of where your beliefs come from, right,

  752. I mean they had their origins in the state of Indiana, correct.

  753. No, sir, I would say for me and and Dale, Virginia, Washington,

  754. DC area.

  755. Okay. So what church did you attend then?

  756. Evangelical free church?

  757. Okay?

  758. And Evangelical free church. So that persisted through how many states? It?

  759. I was in free churches before that, but it really,

  760. you know, I really had understanding at that point. I

  761. would be ten, eleven, twelve years old, thirteen, and then

  762. we moved to Michigan and we did not attend an

  763. Evangelical free church again as a family, just because we

  764. lived out in the country, but here in Antonio, I

  765. went to one, my husband and I and took the

  766. children and went to one here.

  767. Gotcha. So you plainly said that these things happened, they

  768. were cemented in your mind after you were nine. You

  769. clearly said that, oh yeah, okay, so.

  770. Well, but when you talk about telling other people, I

  771. will be judged.

  772. That's like, yes you will, do not be misled? Oh

  773. yes you will. Because the Lord now Joni, now the Lord,

  774. he's God, and what comes out of his mouth that's

  775. the gospel truth. It's the gospel truth. So these are

  776. the things we need to be talking about. This is

  777. church right now. Churchase not a building. Church's fellowship. So

  778. is everybody glad that I chose to do this fellowship today?

  779. I hope.

  780. So I'm thrilled that you did.

  781. You know it came under much dress. The reason why

  782. I did because other things were happening, so I couldn't

  783. do Philippians with my wife, so I knew I had

  784. to do something, so I had to do well this obviously,

  785. So I know, I didn't have any notes ready. I

  786. hope everybody realized that I just did this on the fly.

  787. There's no notes. I just didn't.

  788. I get a few refused through the week, go to

  789. church on Sunday, and anytime I get to hear you,

  790. that's a good recharge for me as well. I find

  791. you know, I find it just as good to commune

  792. and worship with you all as I do is when

  793. I go to church. So it's always nice to be

  794. recharged and edified and taught and to learn something.

  795. Amen. Well, I'm glad, I am, I'm glad I did it.

  796. Then that's that makes it worth it to me. You know,

  797. we all need to prepare for what's to come.

  798. Am I the token dispensationalist former dispensationalists? Or there others?

  799. No, there's there's others. There's others.

  800. I mean in our group.

  801. Yes, in our group, there's others. But okay, No, I

  802. wasn't trying to pick on you. I could have picked

  803. on them just as easy, but I didn't.

  804. It's okay.

  805. So it did surprise me that I have drilled it

  806. into your head, Jony, I've drilled it into your head

  807. about Paradise, about Abraham's bosom.

  808. Well, I knew that they're sleeping Paradise, but I still

  809. thought it was in the same place.

  810. So I guess that's a good thing that I haven't

  811. taught on on a very wow, maybe a very long

  812. time now that I think about it. You know, the

  813. most important thing about those particular verses, and it's it's

  814. really amazing that those verses about the rapture, well about

  815. the resurrection, it plainly states that those are coming from

  816. Oseiah chapter thirteen. They plainly say that. I mean, it doesn't,

  817. you know, beat around the bush. It plainly states that,

  818. and it quotes it literally quotes the verse, right. So

  819. I don't understand why people get confused about it. How

  820. they can get confused about it? I mean, how can

  821. you get confused about it? If it if it it

  822. answers itself and says, no, look this the resurrection and

  823. fulfills the prophecy. Oh death wears your sting, Oh haites

  824. wears your victory. The sting of death is sin, and

  825. the strength of sin is the law. But thanks be

  826. to God who gives us victory through Jesus Christ, our Lord. Therefore,

  827. my brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work

  828. of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in

  829. vain in the Lord. But anyway, every money needs to

  830. realize that the resurrection the why is hose chapter thirteen.

  831. Yes it is, Yes, it is. What's the verse before it?

  832. I know I've taught you this, Lord, have mercy. For

  833. thirteen the sorrows of a woman in childbirth shall come

  834. upon him. He is an unwise son, for he should

  835. not stay Lord where children are born. Then the next verse,

  836. I will ransom them from the power of the grave.

  837. I will redeem them from death. Oh death, I will

  838. be your plagues, O Grave, I will be your destruction.

  839. Pity is hidden from my eyes. If you cannot categorically

  840. explain what the rapture is and how the raptures an

  841. answer to this prophecy, it's because you're speaking the language

  842. of your father. Because the devil is beyond any shadow

  843. of doubt. Thus saith the Lord. The devil is the

  844. father of lies. So if you're going to talk about

  845. the rapture and you're not going to talk about this

  846. complete prophecy, at least this stanza from Hoseah chapter thirteen.

  847. I don't even want to hear it, no more than

  848. I want to hear somebody plus like a sailor, I

  849. don't want to hear it. I don't. I don't want

  850. to hear it. So I hope everybody's been edified. I'm tired,

  851. I'm wor out. You have no idea. I am just,

  852. I'm taxed. I'm I I am just wearing paper thin.

  853. I'm wore out, like an old rag. I'm just I've

  854. had enough. And you know it's and I stated this before,

  855. and I've been stating it, but it just occurred to

  856. me a couple of weeks ago. I am an answer

  857. to the prophecy in Second Chronicles chapter thirty and Hagi

  858. chapter one. Last night, I was on the phone with

  859. somebody trying to convince me to go back to a building.

  860. I'm not going back to church. I'm not. That is

  861. hard for me. What in God's name would my mother say?

  862. What would my mother would smack my mouth if she

  863. heard me say that? But I'm not going back. Satan

  864. runs them and it's I can't sit down, I can't

  865. get up, I can't walk, I can't sleep. It is

  866. plaguing me. How is it possible? How is it possible

  867. that I refuse to go back to church. I refuse

  868. to do it. So I need you all to be

  869. in prayer for me. Because I'm yeah, psychologically it's just

  870. wreck havoc on me.

  871. Just I can't.

  872. Can't get past it. I mean, as far as I'm concerned,

  873. I better keep my mouth shut before I start sinning.

  874. Who can pray us out of here? But I have

  875. a volunteer to pray us out of here before I

  876. get tempted by the devil to start bad mouthing, because

  877. right now I really am tempted to slander celestial beings.

  878. I've just I've got it with them. I've just so

  879. any volunteers to pray us out of here, please, I.

  880. Will thank you, Heavenly Father, thank you for this day.

  881. I thank you for Matthew, and thank you for this time.

  882. Thank you that you speak your word clearly through him

  883. and I. Pray Lord that our ears will continue to

  884. be open to learn to understand by your spirit. Pray

  885. that you will help Matthew. That you will be near

  886. to him in his discouragement. Pray that you will refresh him,

  887. provide for him for his family. That you'll bless this

  888. special time with the new baby and guests, even though

  889. it's difficult. Pray Lord about his job, that you will

  890. bring relief there or compensation Father, help for him. Please

  891. be with us this evening. Please be with Rachel heel,

  892. her eyes, and her body. Lord in your timing. Trust you.

  893. Please especially be with Jenny today and with Sherry because

  894. they're sick. Please help them. Father and Jesus name I pray.

  895. Amen, Amen and amen. Until next time, God bless, godspeed,