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Episode 132: Simon's Experience with the Holy Spirit

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  1. In the name of the glorious Trinity, Father and Son and Holy

  2. Spirit, forever Amen. Glory be to the everlasting

  3. mercies which sent you to us, O Christ, the Light of the world

  4. and the life of all. Give us wisdom by your law and

  5. enlighten our impulses by Your knowledge.

  6. Sanctify our souls by Your truth and grant that we may be

  7. obedient to Your words and may fulfil Your commandments at

  8. every hour. O You who enlightens the

  9. rational with the knowledge of Your greatness, do enlight, O my

  10. Lord, our thoughts, that we may meditate upon Your holy and

  11. divine Scriptures at all times. O Lord of all, Father and Son

  12. and Holy Spirit, forever. Of the holy apostles of our Lord

  13. and our Savior Jesus Christ. Chapter 15 Last episode The

  14. church in Antioch was met with a dilemma over circumcision of the

  15. Gentiles who were converting and receiving the Holy Spirit and

  16. receiving the Holy Spirit even before being baptized.

  17. Now some men, both Gentiles and Jews, Jews and Gentiles who had

  18. believed and those Gentiles who were more closer to the Jewish

  19. faith and acceptance of the Jewish faith, held on the that

  20. circumcision had to be adhered to.

  21. So some of these men who held on the circumcision, who came from

  22. Judea, by the way, in Syria to Antioch, they were teaching that

  23. if you're not circumcised, you don't have salvation or you

  24. don't have the life in our Lord and our Savior Jesus Christ.

  25. And Saint Paul And Barnabas knew that that was not the case, that

  26. all that was required was faith and the fulfillment of the

  27. commandments of Jesus Christ. Now we're reviewing this just

  28. for those people who are listening to these podcasts for

  29. the first time or this episode. So they along so that that is

  30. Paul and Barnabas along with the church, those who are for and

  31. against. So a group of those who are for

  32. circumcision, against the circumcision of the Gentiles,

  33. along with Saint Paul and Barnabas decreed to travel to

  34. Jerusalem and to meet with the apostles, that is Saint Peter

  35. and Saint James and the elders. That is the precipitous, oh, the

  36. priest, the elders, so that they can come to an agreement.

  37. And while they were there, some of the believing Pharisees now

  38. who had believed stood up saying that it is necessary for the

  39. Gentiles to be circumcised and to command them to keep the law

  40. of Moses. So they need to keep the law of

  41. the Moses and be circumcised according to God's covenant with

  42. Abraham. And we know that they were

  43. referring to such Scripture as Scripture.

  44. And I'm going to read it again. I know I read it last episode,

  45. but again Genesis chapter 17 verses 10 to 13, God said to

    Genesis 17:10–13

  46. Abraham and you shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin and

  47. it shall be a sign of the covenant between me and you.

  48. And a son of eight days shall be circumcised among you.

  49. Every male of your for your generations born in the house

  50. and bought with money from any son of a foreigner that is a

  51. Gentile that was not from your seed to curse the circumcise.

  52. They just need to be circumcised.

  53. Let the one born in your house and brought with your silver be

  54. circumcised. And my covenant, this covenant,

  55. this law, this decree will be in your flesh among you for an

  56. eternal covenant. It's an eternal covenant.

  57. It's an eternal fleshly covenant and the uncircumcised male whose

  58. flesh of his foreskin will not be circumcised, that soul will

  59. be destroyed from his people. He has withdrawn from my

  60. covenant. Genesis again, chapter 17,

  61. verses 10 to 13. So being an eternal covenant, we

  62. discussed that it was simple enough to solve the problem and

  63. move on according to the Old Testament scriptures.

  64. Sol Scriptura and God's law given to Abraham.

  65. But we will now learn that wasn't the case and there was an

  66. appeal by the apostles not only to the Scriptures.

  67. Obviously that already referred to the Scriptures, the apostles,

  68. maybe some of the apostles and some of the elders and the, the,

  69. the Pharisees have already appealed to the Scriptures, but

  70. they not only appeal to the Scriptures, but to something or

  71. someone greater than the Scriptures.

  72. What can be greater than the Word of God?

  73. Well, we'll discuss that. And now who steps in?

  74. We're going to read in this time no other than Simon the Rock to

  75. whom Jesus entrusted the keys of the Kingdom of heaven, not the

  76. keys of the Old Testament and the New Testament and the

  77. Pauline letters and Revelation and the Psalms.

  78. No, no, no, the Kingdom of heaven, which is the Gospels

  79. themselves, which is Jesus Christ, which is the church and

  80. the Kingdom of heaven. Matthew 10, Matthew 1619.

  81. Now before we continue, there are many other important factors

  82. in this chapter. I don't want to do it injustice.

  83. There are many other factors in this chapter that we can learn,

  84. but we're focusing on what the apostles appeal to so that they

  85. can overcome this issue and solve it.

  86. And we are trying to see if sola scriptura really played a vital

  87. role. Was it just the scriptures?

  88. There's a lot of other factors were according to the Protestant

  89. Reformation, for example, the moral teaching of the Old

  90. Testament don't apply to Christians.

  91. That's what they say. They use this chapter to say

  92. that's it. It's done, abolished.

  93. No, beloved, we're going to read that and we're going to learn

  94. that. We'll also touch up on that when

  95. we come to the verse. When we come to the verse, we

  96. will see that the primacy of Peter also is in question here

  97. and the primacy of Pope is also going to be in question here.

  98. Let's continue reading the Scriptures.

  99. Acts chapter 15, verses 6:00 and 7:00.

    Acts 15 chapter mention

  100. Then the apostles and elders assemble to consider this

  101. matter. Notice, notice very carefully

  102. the apostles and elders, not the entire church, not the

  103. laypeople, not the faithful who had believed in Jesus Christ and

  104. were baptized. No, it was the apostles and the

  105. elders. Hence we call it the holy

  106. Apostolic and Universal Church. Then the apostles and elders

  107. assemble to consider this matter, to discuss this matter.

  108. And after much controversy, there must have been a lot of

  109. argument. And no, but you know, Genesis

  110. 17, Isaiah and, and Ezekiel, and you know, they were reading all

  111. these Old Testament scriptures and there was a lot of

  112. controversy. Simon Peter rose up and said to

  113. the men and brethren, You know that from the early days God

  114. chose that from my mouth. The Gentiles should hear the

  115. word of the gospel and believe God did it through His Holy

  116. Spirit. What is he referring to?

  117. If we go to Acts chapter 10, we read about one person.

    Acts 10 chapter mention

  118. His name is Cornelius, a centurion of the regiment which

  119. is called the Italian. He was a devout, righteous

  120. person, but he was a Gentile and God received his arms, his

  121. prayers, his faith in the one true God.

  122. And what happens then? Simon goes.

  123. Now Simon, remember Simon was reluctant.

  124. In that chapter 10, we see that Simon sees a vision when God

  125. says to him, Simon, get up and eat.

  126. There was all these creepy and crawling things in a in a in a

  127. plate, let's say, or in a, in a sheet.

  128. And Simon Says, Oh Lord, no, nothing.

  129. The father's come into gone into me.

  130. He said eat what I have purified.

  131. You cannot defile. So Simon listen appeals to a

  132. vision. Simon appeals to an experience.

  133. Simon not only appealed to the Old Testament and the Scriptures

  134. because they did this, they would have gone back to the

  135. Scriptures and said that this is the covenant with God.

  136. OK, but now Simon is also appealing to something else.

  137. Let's read on. And God, which is the Father,

  138. the Son, and the Holy Spirit? Really, praise be to the name of

  139. the Father and of the Son of the Holy Spirit, one God.

  140. And God who knows what is in the heart has testified according to

  141. them, the Gentiles, and has given them the Holy Spirit, just

  142. as He did to us. And He did not discriminate

  143. between us and them because the purify, because He purified

  144. their hearts by faith. God, who knows everything has

  145. already done this. This is grace, beloved, this is

  146. grace. God has already done it.

  147. God has accepted them. So why are we now arguing about

  148. what was written in the Holy Scriptures and only adhering to

  149. that? God has done it.

  150. So are we going to now dare to say, Oh Lord, your words are not

  151. everlasting because you said something in Genesis 17.

  152. You said something in Genesis 17.

  153. Now you've changed your mind. Can the apostle have said this?

  154. Can they have argued with Simon and said no?

  155. But why did God do this? Why did God perform this?

  156. Why did God bestow the Holy Spirit upon these Gentiles who

  157. are not circumcised? And it is God who said my

  158. covenant is eternal because at that time that needed to be the

  159. case. Beloved, God was working with

  160. men. God came down and took flesh.

  161. God became man. You know, God could took on body

  162. through this this people God took on flesh.

  163. You know, I was I was mentioning in the Assyrian section that we

  164. need to talk about this God in the Old Testament whom we say so

  165. loving this God that we see in Jesus Christ.

  166. The God that Jesus portrayed in the holy Gospels is different to

  167. the God of the Old Testament. He is telling people to smite

  168. and to obliterate children even right.

  169. We need to talk about that one day.

  170. It's the same God, but it's not God who's doing that.

  171. We'll talk about that one day, I promise you.

  172. So God has already done this. What are we worried about?

  173. What can we can we go against God?

  174. You know, I think he's, he's remembering his own

  175. admonishment. Now, you know, we say in a

  176. Syrian Cresam and Perdesa, the, the rod from paradise.

  177. I think it, it refers to the, the, the spear that the Angel

  178. held in any case, right? There's some Perdesa, right?

  179. He's remembering, listen, I went against God.

  180. God told me that he's going to do this.

  181. And I said, Oh no, Lord, I can't be defiled.

  182. And he's referring to Acts chapter 10, verse 15, those

    Acts 10:15

  183. things which God has purified. Simon, God tells him you shall

  184. not make impure. And it's the same message that

  185. he is relying or relaying. So where's our Scripture here?

  186. So did they? Did they?

  187. Is there a problem here that the apostles are not adhering to the

  188. perfect word of God that is eternal and everlasting?

  189. Let's keep going. So Saint Paul is saying, listen,

  190. we circumcised St. Peter, I'm sorry.

  191. We have circumcised and received the Holy Spirit.

  192. These people have also received the Holy Spirit.

  193. Now you can't now argue and say, well, no, that was not the Holy

  194. Spirit. No, Simon witnessed that himself

  195. while he was preaching. He saw the Holy Spirit descend

  196. on those Gentiles who were listening.

  197. And he said, can we we withhold water baptism, which is very

  198. important. You talk about that one day

  199. water baptism, which is very important.

  200. Can we withhold the water baptism from these people?

  201. No, they've received the Holy Spirit.

  202. So the Holy Spirit was being received before even being

  203. baptized. So do you see the argument?

  204. Do you see the argument? So, you know, let's sort of not

  205. wrap it up, but just let's let's talk about this.

  206. You know, when when we come to discuss the church, the life of

  207. the church, the traditions of the church, the oral traditions

  208. of the church, the written traditions of the church, we

  209. can't just base our appeal on the Holy Scriptures and say,

  210. what is it in the Scriptures? WWJD.

  211. No, it's actually WH TCD. What has the church been doing?

  212. I forgot the BWWJD. No, Jesus has done it.

  213. He's established it. He's laid the foundation,

  214. entrusted it to the Church. How has the Church been

  215. practicing this? Circumcision, Baptism, the

  216. reception of the Holy Spirit? Right.

  217. So we always go back to and say, well, how has the church for the

  218. past 2025 years being LED? Was it only the Scriptures?

  219. No, because there are a lot of things in that not written in

  220. the Scriptures, but they were passed down by the word of

  221. mouth, oral tradition and a verse should be now echoing in

  222. our minds because if we're still thinking, well, I don't feel it

  223. out of I've always said it, it, you know, it doesn't matter what

  224. you feel and what you think. It's what the Scriptures say.

  225. They rely on the scriptures. They appeal to the Scriptures

  226. and what the Holy Spirit had led the Church, how the Holy Spirit

  227. has been leading the Church, and there should be a averse echoing

  228. in your minds now. Exodus 3320 I shall take pity on

  229. him on whom I shall take pity, and I shall love him whom I

  230. shall love. Romans 915 So, Lord, how can it

  231. be? Lord, You commanded that there

  232. has to be circumcision. You even said to Abraham the

  233. foreigners, but now you're changing your mind.

  234. No, God does not change his mind.

  235. No, it is in his nature, the goodness of God that is now

  236. being, the grace of God that is now being, being present and

  237. evident. Verse 10 Now therefore, why do

  238. you tempt God by putting a yoke upon the necks of the disciples,

  239. which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

  240. Amen to that. Amen to that.

  241. Listen, we had the law, we had the Mosaic law, we had

  242. circumcision, we circumcised, we were received into God's people

  243. and we were called God's people, but we sinned.

  244. We continued to sin. They sinned without the law.

  245. We sinned with the law. They sinned with the law of the

  246. nature, the law being written on their hearts.

  247. We had the written law. You know, that's what Paul talks

  248. about in Romans. But we all sinned.

  249. We received the Holy Spirit. They have also received the Holy

  250. Spirit. So let's not burden them.

  251. It was even unbearable on their fathers.

  252. Paul goes on to say, sorry, I keep saying Paul.

  253. Peter goes on to say, but we believe that through the grace

  254. of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved even as they let

  255. me read that again Now therefore, why do you tempt God

  256. by putting a yoke upon the necks of the disciples which neither

  257. our fathers, which neither our fathers nor we were able to

  258. bear. Why?

  259. Because they continued to sin. Why St.

  260. Marisudat writes it and comments because they were continually

  261. subdued under the weight of curse and the multitude of sins.

  262. This is history. This historical beloved verse 11

  263. But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ

  264. we shall be saved even as they have, we shall be saved.

  265. Why? Because Romans 223 Because we

  266. have all transgressed the Jews and the Gentiles.

  267. We have all transgressed against the law.

  268. God Himself we have despised and disgraced.

  269. Romans 223 shut the version Beautiful.

  270. We have all fallen short of grace of God.

  271. No, no, actually it says we have all transgressed against the law

  272. and God himself we have despised and disgraced.

  273. We are all fallen short. Grace.

  274. The word grace, that's the first time it appears in the book of

  275. Acts. What does it mean?

  276. It means that God has already done it.

  277. God has done this. We don't need to do anything.

  278. We don't need to go back and now argue whether it is right or

  279. wrong. You know, when we, when we, when

  280. we do that, it's though as though Jesus has failed.

  281. It's as though we don't accept what Christ has already done for

  282. us. No.

  283. God sent the Holy Spirit upon these people.

  284. God saw their heart. When Cornelius was praying and

  285. offering his arms his his charitable work, God saw the

  286. heart that is a a contrite spirit, a pure heart, truly

  287. searching for the true God or worshipping the true God through

  288. the law that is written on the heart.

  289. And God accepted that. Hence God sends Simon for him to

  290. go and preach in order for him to receive the Holy Spirit and

  291. for in order for him to be baptized.

  292. So now we see that the appeal to the Scriptures wasn't the only

  293. appeal by the apostles. The appeal to the Scriptures was

  294. not the basis of Simon's argument and support of the

  295. Gentiles, no, but rather the experience he had with the Holy

  296. Spirit. That's why I mentioned God, the

  297. Triune, God the Father and the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

  298. Simon was moved by the Holy Spirit.

  299. Simon experienced something which pertained to the Gentiles

  300. to be, to come into Christianity, to believe and to

  301. be baptized and to receive the Holy Spirit.

  302. Simon saw this, God told him, and he relied and appealed to

  303. the guidance and the work of the Holy Spirit.

  304. That Holy Spirit that Jesus promised in John chapter 14

    John 14:26

  305. verse 26 but he, the paraclate, the Spirit of holiness, whom the

  306. Father sends in my name, He shall teach you everything and

  307. He shall remind you of all that I have said to you.

  308. The church today relies on the Scriptures, relies on the

  309. appeals to the Scriptures, but also relies on the

  310. interpretation, the guidance of the Holy Spirit according to the

  311. Scriptures, beloved. So if we argue solar Scriptura,

  312. if it is only the Scriptures, there is nothing that is

  313. required more and above and outside of the Scriptures.

  314. Well, we go back again to this early church.

  315. These are Simon and James and Paul and and the the believers

  316. and the the presbyters. These people did not only appeal

  317. to these scriptures, they had the authority we love.

  318. They were being led by the Holy Spirit.

  319. You know that authority that was vested in the the apostles, what

  320. you bound on earth is bound in heaven.

  321. Now it was all according to the will, the direction, the

  322. appeasing of the Holy Spirit. And as I said, there's other

  323. lessons we can learn and we will learn, beloved, as we come.

  324. You know, as I said, Chapter 15 of the book of Acts is known to,

  325. to, to totally separate the old and the new, the old covenant

  326. and the new covalent and, and totally annihilate the old

  327. covenant and abolish. But no, we'll see that that's

  328. not the case. They still, they still appeal to

  329. appeal to the, to the circumcision of the Old

  330. Testament, but it was now a new covenant that Jesus had given

  331. through his commandments and his life.

  332. So when we want to be living the life that is appeasing to God,

  333. when we're confused because we hear all these different

  334. messages, why don't we pray to the Holy Spirit, beseech the

  335. Holy Spirit, the third Kanuma of the Holy Trinity, the third

  336. hypotheses, the third persona of the Holy Trinity.

  337. Oh Spirit, you lead me, you guide me.

  338. And if at times and and how do we ask the Spirit to lead and

  339. guide through the Scriptures? Amen.

  340. Through the life of the church, the framework of the church,

  341. through our conscience, our minds, our hearts, our thoughts,

  342. our intents. And when the Holy Spirit is

  343. speaking through us through the conscience and maybe hearing his

  344. voice at times, and even if it may be contradicting the Holy

  345. Spirit now, not contradicting in a way that to prove the

  346. scriptures are wrong, no. But if it is not adhering to the

  347. scriptures, well, are you going to argue?

  348. But hang on, Holy Spirit, you said this.

  349. But now, yes, I said that there's a purpose why I said

  350. that. There is a reason why I was

  351. commanding the slaughter of nations.

  352. That wasn't me. God is unchangeable.

  353. God is love, beloved, love. But there is reasons why

  354. sometimes we see the harshness of God.

  355. We see some harsh words in the Holy Scriptures and not only

  356. that harsh deeds, the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah.

  357. So going back again, plead with the Holy Spirit to lead and to

  358. guide. Because of that is what Jesus

  359. left his church. Beloved, Jesus didn't leave his

  360. church with the New Testament. The Old Testament was there, the

  361. Pentateuch was there, but Jesus left his church, entrusted his

  362. church to the Holy Spirit, and that Holy Spirit led the

  363. apostles that we today adhere to their teachings and their

  364. understanding and their interpretation of the

  365. Scriptures. Praise and glory be to Christ's

  366. name now and at all times and forever.

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