Sermon
S3E40 Fellowship 03/12/26
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Welcome, Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the fellowship. Impromptu fellowship.
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I don't know what we're going to talk about. Who
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knows one? Thanks for sure, we can talk about anything
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and everything. So last night's program with Michael Parker had
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people upset because of the end of the At the
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end of the program, which was escaton, we're going through
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the end time terminology A A through Z, and I
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guess my audio cut out and it really upsets some
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people that I'm not familiar with. But they were upset
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enough to let me know that, you know, they felt
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like that that was pretty important information and that I
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need to do an entire program on it. Well, just
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so you won't know, I don't have to do anything
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save what the Holy Spirit tells me to do. So no,
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I don't have to do a whole program on it.
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And the whole purpose of me doing programs with Michael
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Parker is I am hoping that the Spirit moves between us,
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and if the Holy Spirit moves between Michael and I,
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I'm hoping that the Holy Spirit will move amongst the listeners.
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So I appreciate that you've never heard what I said
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before and you were upset because the audio cut out.
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I don't know if it was Michael's fault or my fault.
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I don't know which one it was. I would imagine
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it was Michael because he's the one using all the
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processing power. We never have any problems here with our
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WiFi or a straight signal. So Michael, his his computer
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is streaming to like sure three different platforms, so he's
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using all the processing power. So I don't know if
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it's he or I. But but I'm not going to
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dodge your comments. I am just going to be forthright
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with you that I don't care to share it, to
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share any information, I mean, let me be forthright with you,
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and I don't have to the whole point is that
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the I'm hoping that the spirit moves and stirs you,
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and if that is what had the effect, well then
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I'm very pleased with that. So anyway, that being said,
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is there anything anybody wants to talk about tonight? Going once,
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going twice, going three times? And gone? So what to
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talk about? What could I talk about? One thing? For sure,
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all I need to do is just crack my Bible
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and things will get get going straight away. But I
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hope that everybody is being edified by the partnership I'm
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doing with Michael Partner Parker over at Prophecies of the
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End Times. He's actually the first ministry that this ministry
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was ever friends with online. So that's pretty pretty cool.
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So I hope everybody's being edified by that. And and
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and I understand, uh, especially if you're a dispensationalist and
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you're getting upset with I'm saying because it doesn't it
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doesn't jive with what you've been taught your whole life.
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And I understand that. And this is one of the
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reasons why I'm being very forthright with you that sent
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me messages. No, I don't have to do a program
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on it, because the last thing on earth I need
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to do is it sets you because you know your
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dad or your grandma taught you this, and therefore it's
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the gospel truth. I'm not. I have no interest in
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doing that. I have no interest in doing it at all,
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especially if those family members of yours had been born again.
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I dare not, you know, contradict someone who I had
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been born again that had already entered into the rest.
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I have no interest in doing that at all. But
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I understand if you're upset, and I was saying things
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that was foreign to your hearing. It was not my
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intention to counter your your loved ones that that taught
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you these things. I will tell you this that I
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wasn't raised that way. I was not permitted to be
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raised that way. So you need to know that what
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I got I got from the Bible and history, mostly encyclopedias.
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So no, I was not taught what dispensationalism was. I
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wasn't taught what preterism was. As a matter of fact,
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the first time I encountered many of those things was
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in an institution of higher learning. So that probably comes
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to quite a shock to you that how on earth
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could I have possibly got to an institution of higher
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learning and was not well versed in dispensationalism. Well, I'm
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not trying to upset you, but you need to understand
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that what I just said is contradiction in terms. Dispensationalism
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doesn't hold a single verse in the Bible, not one. Therefore,
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to say someone is versed in dispensationalism is a contra
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addiction in terms. Now, when it comes to God's word
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that I know, I've just had some people that's known
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me for a very long time. I get very upset
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because they realize that, well, you know the Latin vulgate.
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Oh yeah, oh yes I do. They didn't appreciate my response.
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I know it because I know my enemy, of course,
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but that probably upsets you too, right, And I'm not
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I'd say, it's not my purpose to upset you. It
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is my purpose to prepare you for what is to come.
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That's that's what I'm trying to do. I'm not trying
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to upset you. But I understand if what you hear
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from me is different than what your parents or your
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loved ones or your favorite preacher. I understand of what
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I'm saying. This is not falling in line with that.
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I am sorry. I am getting you prepared or I'm
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trying to for what is to come. And it is
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that that is of pearmount importance. That's what's of pear
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amount importance. Many of the things that you're going to
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hear me talk about. The members of Maranatha ministries have
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heard me talk about these things for fifteen years. I
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started this online ministry May the tenth or no, I'm sorry,
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May the twentieth, twenty ten, so they've heard me talk
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about all of these things many times. So you need
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to start from here. You need to start that. I
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am aware what Bible scholars, or more appropriately, theologians say.
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I'm well aware of that, but you need to know this.
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It is a matter of historical fact. It is a
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matter of astronomical fact that Jesus Christ could have only
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been crucified one of two years, that's thirty eight and
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thirty three AD. Now the reason for those two years
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is this, because unequivocally you can consult the astronomy charts
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and readily come to the conclusion that it is those
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two years, and those two years only that the historical
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evidence provides for the Passover occurring on Friday. Because do
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not be misled. The New Testament clearly states that they
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ate the Passover. They ate the Last Supper on Thursday evening.
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They followed the dictates per Exodus, chapter twelve, verses two
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through eleven. That's a fact. This is how they know.
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They know that the day of the week that Jesus
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Christ was crucified was Friday. They ate he ate the
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Last Supper after the sun went down on Thursday, because remember,
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the biblical day is sundown to sundown, not sun up.
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And if that be true, I know that there's a
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Bible verse that once again is of paramount importance that
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you are probably unfamiliar with. And once again that's not
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my fault, but you need to understand there are promises
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that directly apply to this equation directly. Now, I know
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that many people don't quote from the Book of Josea
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very often. I'm sure that many of you who are
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dispensationalists or preterists, you probably have never studied jose at all,
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and in doing that, you have no idea that God
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has made promises to you. They're in verse two, chapter six.
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After two days, he will revive us. On the third day,
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he will raise us up that we may live in
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his sight. Now, I don't need to belabor the simple
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fact that the Bible repeatedly says, both Old and New Testaments,
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that a day to the Lord is like a thousand years.
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So this is a paramount importance that you need to
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You need to come to a dead reckoning us. Now,
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many people that are not used to practicing celestial navigation
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probably don't understand what I just said. A dead reckoning
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is when you can plot your course off the stars
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and know exactly where you're at on the globe. This
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is called dead reckoning. You could do that with the
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crucifixion of Jesus Christ. And as I just told you,
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what just come out of my mouth is quite simply
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beyond contestation the Lord Jesus Christ.
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He was.
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Either crucified one of those two dates. So you only
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need to come to an understanding of this that if
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that be true, and it is true, and it is true,
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that two thousand year promise is either up in twenty
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thirty or twenty thirty three, and you personally need to
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postulate a dead reckoning of where you're at based on
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that and based on nothing else, and I mean nothing else.
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Most of you need to probably write this down. She
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was either crucified April the seventh, thirty a d. Or
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April the third, thirty three AD. I'm hoping for the
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former one. Why well, because I'm hoping that I'm one
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of the ones that are alive and remain. But you
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can all probably probably well ascertain that, well, they are
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only three years apart. Yes, you're quite correct, they're only
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three years apart. So you need to come up with
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your dead reckoning. What will happen in twenty thirty. Will
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something happen then or will something happen before then? Because
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let's just talk about dispensationalism. Okay, I mean, I'm not
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picking on them by any stretch of the imagination, but
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they need to determine, well, okay, if that be true,
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If that be true, it's got to mean a couple
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of things. Because they believe that the tribulation is seven
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years the rapture, their raptured date has already come and gone.
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Therefore it forces them to look that, well, it must
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be the later date of thirty three AD. Then they
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have to decide, well, if that be true, how much
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time do they god because of this mechanism, because they
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because of confirmation bias, they do not believe in any way,
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shape or form that it could possibly be a crucifixion
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date of thirty a D. They can't because if it
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was in thirty or we've only got four years until
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twenty thirty, So they're preconceived notions of a free tribulation,
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rapture before a seven year tribulation doesn't work. The next
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question is, okay, what does the crucifixion mean? Does that
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mean that, well, the rapture is going to be in
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twenty thirty does that? What it mean is that the
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halfway point you need to be able to come to
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a dead reckoning with what God says. And that is
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a very difficult thing to do. I mean, for example,
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here in the Fellowship we have John Justice. He is
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going to an Orthodox church. So if he had been
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born and raised in that Orthodox church, it would be
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very to convince him of anything else. His ears are
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not used to hearing what God's word says. He is
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used to his priest and his bishops telling him what
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the Bible means. Two very different things. So if you
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are raised in a Baptist churchless say, you're going to
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do the exact same thing as John. He's not going
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to be able to hear what I say due to
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confirmation bias. That makes my job extremely difficult. But let's
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talk sensibly. Can we can we come together, you and
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I and reason one with another. I mean, I can
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certainly bring John on right now, and because I know
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everything that he's thinking and everything that he's been taught,
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because he wasn't always Orthodox, I can have an intelligent
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conversation with him. What about you? If did somebody want
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to speak? I heard of mic.
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Come on, I just said, amen, John, thank you? So
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can we speak sensibly?
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Can I speak to you about certain things and we
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just reason together honestly? Can you? Can you do that?
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And let's say you're a dispensations let's say that. Let's
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say your need deep. Let's say you're well beyond dispensationalism.
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Let's say you are a born in doctrined into Christian
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Zionism dispensationism. If that's the case, can I ask you
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honest questions and thus reason things out? I mean, this
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isn't my first rodeo, and I've been teaching since I
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was a child. What do I mean by that? When
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I was in youth group, I was such a prodigy
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that the church members was having me teach the younger classes,
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the elementary kids. I was teaching them. What Oh, that
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was a long time ago, once or twice a month.
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So this isn't my first rodeo. So let's just say
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ask the most basic question, right, who's the one hundred
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and forty four thousand. That's kind of a trick question, though,
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isn't it. That's a trick question because they're in two
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different chapters in Revelation, right, say that again, John, I
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didn't catch.
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It two different sets of one hundred and forty four thousand.
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You said, yes, But most people don't think that, John,
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Most people think it's the same group. But yes, Is
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that reasonable, John? Is it reasonable to say that this
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group of one hundred and forty four thousand is the
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same group just in two different chapters?
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It makes sense to me. But the issue I've always
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come up with is a group they say is one
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hundred and forty four thousand, there's no lie. They've never
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looked on a woman. Well, that's no human living, never
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has been a human living. They've all been fallen. So
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how's this group got no dile on their lips before?
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Amen? And that's completely different than the group in Revelation
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chapter seven because the group in Revelation chapter seven are
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numbered just like the numbering done in Numbers chapters one, two,
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and three. They are numbered as if they are the
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heads of households, so completely completely different dynamic. That is
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to say, it is reasonable to assume that there are
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two separate groups of one hundred and forty four thousand.
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And that's without me looking at the Greek or even
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looking beyond that, looking ato the Hebrew with the Delisch
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New Testament, which we can do. I'm not going to
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do any of that because we're just speaking rationally. We're
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coming together and reasoning together. Now, the problem with my
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statement so far is many of you don't remember numbers
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chapters one, two, and three. I mean, how many people here,
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Let's ask John, John, how many times have you intentionally
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read numbers one, two and three? How many times have
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you done that?
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Well, I've kind of been on a kick lately, but
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it's been audiobook audio Bible as well, just trying to
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go through them.
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So you're trying to say you've never intentionally went there
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just to read it and study it. No, sir, Okay,
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Well that creates some logistical problems because what I said
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just a few minutes ago, the numbering in Revelation chapter
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seven occurs after the manner of the numbering of the
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heads of household in numbers one, two, and three. Now,
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the problem if you do decide to just I'm going
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to study this numbering and let's go there and listen number,
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You're gonna walk into a quagmire this. First of all,
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First off, God says, okay, number everybody. Then God says,
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do not number this group. Then he says, okay, now
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number this part of that group. So when you get
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into it, it's kind of crazy. But the idea is this,
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there is a group that God says they are for me,
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they are mine, They are not reckoned according according to
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the number. So if you're unfamiliar with numbers chapters one, two,
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and three, you don't have enough familiarity with the topic
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to discuss it. You're just quite simply unfamiliar with the concept.
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You just you don't know what's going on. That makes
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it very hard for me to field questions about the
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one hundred and forty four thousand when the people asking
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the questions have no idea why certain groups are being
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numbered and why there's different groups being numbered. They're just
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they cannot have an intelligent, reasonable conversation about it. They
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can answer the question. Well, that's if we read those
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simple verses. I mean, let's take Revelation chapter seven. You're
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only talking about the first eight verses, eight verses. Let's
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talk about the second group from Revelation chapter fourteen. That's
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only five verses. How many verses is that total? Thirteen
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verses altogether? Even as far as the chapter goes that's
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very short. The average chapters, like you know, twenty one verses.
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But it's impossible for me to discuss those thirteen verses
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if you don't know why the numbering ever occurred, I can't.
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I can't have an intelligent conversation with you now. At
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least John is doing what I do, and when I
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can't have a Bible in my hand. Yes, ladies and gentlemen,
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I listen to it on the way to work, on
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the way home from work, when I'm driving, That's what
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I listen to. I know that everybody listens to contemporary
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Christian music. I assure you I do not. I don't.
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I'm either reading God's word or I'm hearing it. I'm
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listening to it. So extremely important that you know that
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you're able to have some concept of what's going on,
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and if you're unfamiliar with what God has told you before,
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it's just it's pointless for me to have this conversation
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with you, and most of you cannot tolerate hearing God's word.
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Do you know how I know that you have no idea?
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Over the past fifteen years, how many times I've been
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cursed at in text and emails because I was wasting
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everybody's time reading the Bible. They didn't want to hear
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me read through the verses. They can do that themselves.
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They just wanted me to give them sixty minutes of
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commentary about what the Bible says. They don't want to
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hear what it has to say, they want my commentary
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on it. Now, to those of you that have been
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born again, you realize that's a big red flag, isn't it.
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Most churchgoers have not been born again. So let me
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just read a little bit from this. And would you
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listen if I told you you cannot have an intelligent
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conversation about one hundred and forty four thousand unless we
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study these first three chapters of numbers. Are you getting
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upset because you're afraid I'm going to start reading the Bible?
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If you are, I'm sorry about that. But let's just
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I'm not going to read very much. How about the
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first four verses? How about that? Okay? Numbers Chapter one
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from the New King James version. Now, the Lord spoke
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to Moses in the wilderness of Siinai in the Tabernacle
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of Meeting on the first day of the second month
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in the second year, after they had come out of
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the land of Egypt, saying, take a census of all
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the congregation of the children of Israel, by their families,
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by their fathers houses, according to the number of names
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every male individually from twenty years old and above all
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who are able to go to war and Israel. You
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and Aaron shall number them by their armies. And with
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you there shall be a man from every tribe, each
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won the head of his father's house. Not very hard, right,
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didn't have to get into all the technical details. Let
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me ask you something. So what do you call churches? Now?
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Right here? Let's let's let's scroll in a little bit.
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What is the temple of the Holy Spirit? That's the
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individual believer, right, right? So that is to say, a
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church is supposed to be a body of believers. Right,
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So you should instinctively understand that. However that works, that
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must be talking about the clergy today. What he would
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say if we were to translate this today, he would
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have said this, let's go to the fourth verse. You'll
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be able to readily understand it. And with you there
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shall be the pastor from every church, each one the
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head of his father's church. Who's the father, God, the Father?
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This is talking about the clergy now without reading any further,
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because I realized that if I start reading from here,
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a lot of you who's not hearing it able to
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process even want to. You don't have the desire to
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read a bunch of genealogies. Right, That's not what's important here.
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What's important is the message, not the names. Now, this
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covers the first eight verses we talked about Revelation chapter seven,
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verses one through eight. If you just do this on
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your own time, read the first three chapters of Numbers,
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you'll understand what's happening in those first eight verses of
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Revelation chapter seven. Now we'll go this about it a
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completely different way with the one hundred and forty four
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thousand mentioned in Revelation chapter fourteen. We're going to do
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this a completely different way. Why because it relays the
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information a completely different way. That's why one thing is
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for sure. With the first numbering, the only location that
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we're given of those that are numbered is that they're
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on planet Earth. Did I just take you by surprise?
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I did, didn't I? Some of you are upset with
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me now because I said something that was contradictory to
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your confirmation bias. Well, maybe I should stop and backtrack.
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The first group of one hundred and forty four thousand
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is not in heaven. An angel with the soul of
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the Living God does not run around heaven and seal
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the foreheads of one hundred and forty four thousand people.
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And the only place they could be in heaven. The
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Bible clearly says that Paradise is in the third Heaven.
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That's not what this says. What does it say? If
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I read it, will you believe it? And that's all
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I'm wanting you to do to at least consider that
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this is saying these one hundred and forty four thousand
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people are on Earth at the time of the event. No,
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I'll do exactly what I did before, and I'm just
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going to read the first four verses. That's fair, right,
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I'm not going to get into you know, Judah was YadA, YadA, YadA,
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and there were so many families. I'm not going to
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do that, right, I read the first four verses, so
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let's do that here, right, So I'll read the first
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four verses of Revelation chapter seven. You've been taught these
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one hundred and forty four thousand are like somewhere else. Right.
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More importantly, you've been taught there's some other time. Just
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listen to the first four verses. After these things, I
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saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth,
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holding the four winds of the Earth, that the wind
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should not blow on the earth, on the sea, or
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on any tree. Now, ladies and gentlemen, this is very intentional.
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These people are not in heaven. Okay, these people aren't
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dead bishops. I didn't say that to be mean to
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you if you're Catholic or Orthodox, but I'm telling you
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the truth. I know that your clergy tells you that
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when these priests and bishops die, they go to heavenly court.
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This is contradictory to that. These people are obviously on earth.
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They're not in heaven. Verse two. Then I saw another
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angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the
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Living God. And he cried out with a loud voice
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to the four angels to whom it was granted to
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harm the earth and the sea, saying, do not harm
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the earth or the trees to we have sealed the
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servants of our God on their foreheads. And I heard
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the number of those who were sealed one hundred and
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forty four thousand of all the tribes of the children
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of Israel were sealed. Now look, I'm not I'm not
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talking to you about theology. I am speaking with you rationally.
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It is nonsensical for you to say this group of
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one hundred and forty four thousand is anywhere except alive
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and on earth, and especially if you're able to learn
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how to read the Greek and read the Greek's He
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gave you directions. He gave you north, southeast, and west.
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He gave you land, sea, air, ladies and gentlemen. If
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someone has convinced you that this group of one hundred
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and forty four thousand are are the people that have
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achieved a sainthood and are in the Third Heaven in Paradise,
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that's not rational of you to say that. It's just
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not it's not rational for you to say that. Now,
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I need to give that a rest. Okay, I need
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to give that a rest. Let's go to Revelations chapter fourteen. Here.
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Here it's five verses, and it's going to say some
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things that Well, if someone has taught you that this
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means something other than what it's saying, you're probably going
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to get upset with me. But this is just going
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to be done elementary. I have taught. I've taught all
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the different Sunday school age groups, all of them. Okay,
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so I'm not trying to upset you, but I'm going
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to read this very elementary, like I'm only going to
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read one verse just for the sake of making sure
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that you know I don't I don't produce information overload,
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and then your mind just shuts down, and ten minutes
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after I say it, you won't be able to bring
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to memory what I spoke because I've overloaded your mind.
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So I'm just going to read one verse Revelation chapter fourteen,
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Verse one. Then I looked and behold a lamb standing
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on Mount Zion, and with him one hundred and forty
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four thousand having his father's name written on their foreheads.
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Now take note, is this what happened to the group
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before it? This group is very plain. It says that
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It says that they have the father of the lamb's
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name on their forehead. Now, I just read to you
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the first four verses of Revelation chapter seven, because that's
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not what was put on their foreheads. What was put
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on their foreheads was the seal of God, not his name.
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So who is supposed to go to Mountain Zion? I mean,
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let's just take that information. Right there, It says that
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this group of one hundred and forty four thousand was
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with him on Mount Zion. Right, that should be pretty
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easy to track down if we just do a word
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search on that word Zion. Surely God is going to
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put somewhere in the Bible where people go up to
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Mount Zion. I mean, this should be easily accomplished with
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just a simple word search and a simple program. And
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I'm here to tell you that that is exactly the case.
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When you do a search for Zion, not too many
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verses come up, but one verse tells you what they are.
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How many of you are familiar with just twenty one verses?
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It's just a twenty one verse long book. Let me
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ask you what is the Book of Obadiah about? Most
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of you will readily say I have no idea. No,
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say I you know I have read it, but I
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don't remember. I'll read it to you, Okay. The only
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thing we need to know about it is this. There's
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one hundred and forty four thousand of them. The New
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King James version Obadiah, verse twenty one. Then Savior shall
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come to Mount Zion to judge the mountains of Esau,
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and the kingdom shall be the lords. So there you go.
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There you go. Now that's as simple as you can get.
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That.
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For whatever reason, this verse is saying that saviors, one
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thing is for sure. I just proved with just two
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verses that these two groups cannot be the same. They
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can't be and they can't be the same place. Why
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can't they be the same thing? Why can't they be?
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Well?
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First and foremost, we talked about what was on their heads.
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Right one group has God's name, not Jesus's name, and
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be specific about it. It said the father of the lamb.
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They have his name on their forehead. The other verse
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said that the people on earth were stealed on their
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forehead with the seal of God. So one has the
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seal of God. Whatever that looks like. Right here, let
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me relax your mind. Do you know that I know
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what the seal looks like? Would that blow your mind?
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Do I know the details of it? No? But guess
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what that seal looks like. It's the seal that is
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on the seven sealed scruggle. Whatever whatever that seal is,
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that's what gets puts on their forehead. Did I shock
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you that I knew that? Have you never heard that before? Well,
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let's talk about the second thing. One group is obviously
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on planet Earth. The other group specifically is on Mount Zion.
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Where's that Hebrews chapter twelve, verse twenty two. But you
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have come to Mount Zion and to the city of
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the Living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company
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of angels. I'm sorry that if somebody else has convinced
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you that Mount Zion is on Earth, it's not. It
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is the seat of God's power. This is right. Revelation
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plainly tells you that Heaven was open up, and guess
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what was saw in heaven? Yes, the Ark of the
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Covenant Hebrews chapter twelve, verse twenty two states authoritatively, the
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Mount Zion's in heaven. So so what I'm telling you
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is true. What is written on these two different groups
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foreheads is different, two different things, and their location is
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two different places. One is overtly on Earth, the other
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is overtly in Heaven. If I've upset you, I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry. If I'm contradicting you know your Grandpa. That's
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not my intention. It's not my intention to upset you
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because I'm saying something uh that you're you know, grandmother
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didn't teach. I am in no way trying to upset
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you that way. I'm just I'm just pointing out reasonable
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things the Bible's saying. But the Bible said it reasonably.
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I mean, there's no way you could get these two
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groups confused. But yet if I talk with somebody that's
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had theological training and they say, well, yes, the group
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of one hundred and forty four thousand, they're Christ heavenly
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counsel of priests and bishops that have achieved sainthood. Really,
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and I just there's no point for me to argue
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with them, because if you can't figure out that these
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are two separate groups, I you know, there's well, for one,
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the Word of the Living God says we're not allowed
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to argue, So I'm really not permitted to argue with
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you anyway. But to me, it just makes me shake
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my head and I just well, the only question that
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I will tell you this privately, what I think to
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myself is who has bewitched you? That's the ill? And
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of course I could challenge them and and well, start
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an argument, but that's all it would be, would be
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an argument, and all they would do would be get upset,
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and they would not believe a word that I said.
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You want to know why, because they refuse to believe
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that what the Bible said it meant. They have been
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taught the Bible means something other than what it plainly says.
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And at that point, because I have taken psychology, I
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understand that they do not need a theologian. What they
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need is a psychologist. They have confirmation bias and they
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quite simply cannot. They cannot properly process information. They can't.
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They've been indoctrinated, They've been programmed. Is that a mean
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thing to say? Of course, it's a mean thing to say.
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That's why I don't tell them that, because there's just
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because there's no purpose in doing it. I am telling
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you so that you are able to at least have
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your eyes open to the simple fact that that, wait
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a minute, something is going on here. What you need,
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once you realize this is true, you need to undergo
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critical thinking training. You really do. You need to learn
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how to analyze information, arguments, and evidence independently. Look, I'm
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not trying to confuse you. Rewind this and listen to
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it again. There's three things. There's information, and there's arguments
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about that information, and then there's the evidence. Because to
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determine what the evidence is, there's no point in arguing
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about it. That's what I've did with you here, you
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and I in the past sixty minutes. I've been able
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to reasonably prove to you that the evidence states there's
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not one group of one hundred and forty four thousand,
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there's two different groups. And like I said, I'm sorry
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if that goes against what your favorite creature says, or
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your grandmother or I'm not wanting to offend what they
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said in any way. But if this be true, and
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because I haven't yelled at you or screamed at you,
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you've been able to set here and have your eyes
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open just by me reading very few verses. I didn't
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read very many verses. If I was able to open
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your eyes to the simple fact that these things are true,
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you probably need to go through cognitive restructuring. And that's
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that's got nothing to do with the theologian. You can't
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go to a seminary and get that. You need to
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have your mind trained to. All right, Liz, read the
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Book of Ruth, and let's believe everything that the Book
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of Ruth says and then start categorizing the information. The
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best way to do that we all learned in elementary school. Well,
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I mean, after your certain age, it's making an outline.
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Make an outline for yourself of Ruth. Do you have
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to retrain your mind through cognitive restructuring? All right, it's
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at the top of the hour, so I need to
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stop this. And I'm sorry if I've confused you or
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upset you. I'm really sorry if you're Orthodox because I
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was mentioned Orthodox. I'm sorry if you're a dispensationalist, if
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you got upset that I mentioned those things. I was
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not attacking you. I was just giving you examples from
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what is common to your and mind database. That's all
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I was doing. I wasn't trying to say anything bad
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about anybody, So all right, that being said, is there
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anything anybody wants to talk about? Questions? Comments?
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I might speak for myself here, but you don't never
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offend me none. And as far as talk about Orthodoxy,
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talk about all of it. Pull the truth out of everything.
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Always better to find the truth than have something lined
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about and I mean I like it. You know, there's
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things I like about it, but there's things I disagree
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with it too. And I mean I grew up in
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a church that had a flag and a Jewish flag
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right there, and so I definitely disagree with all that too.
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You know, there ain't no perfect church no more. And
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I like hearing what you got to say about all
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of them because it's all helped me out.
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Well, thank you, John. All Right, anybody else, this.
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May be a topic for a whole nother discussion. But
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two groups, two occatients. Okay, what is God trying to
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tell us? What have I not learned?
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Well that's a big question. Well let me ask you this.
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Uh and and who am I speaking with? Scott?
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This is Scott?
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Yes, all right, thank you, a pleasure to meet you,
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by the way, make your acquaintance. Let me ask you.
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Let let me ask you this. Have you studied the
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first three chapters of numbers?
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I have not, So that sounds like a starting point.
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That is absolutely a starting point. And I'm going to
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tell you right now that how I did it and
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how I teach everybody else to do it is do
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so with a highlighter you're gonna need it. You're gonna
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need it because there's different groups being numbered, and you
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need to be able to segregate that in your mind
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because when you read it at academically, well, it's just
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a list of names, right, you got so many people
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from Judas, so many people from Levi, so many people
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from Simon. Right, you have these, But that's not what
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it's about. That's not what it's about. And it is
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so easy to read it like you're trudging along. You know,
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you have to read this. This is in your Bible plan.
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So we just have to read these three chapters today
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if I'm going to get through the whole Bible in
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a year. So this is what we got to do, right,
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don't read it that way.
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Don't exactly ten years, twelve years, twenty years. It's just
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been oh, I'm at this part again.
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It is, you know, let's do this. I've got my
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document here open. This is a very old document. But
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let me just read a little bit to you. Okay.
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I almost start reading in verse forty seven. Okay, so
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this passes up all those this family had this many people,
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that family, and it passes all that and it gets
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us to the first differentiation. So starting in verse forty seven,
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the Levites, however, were not numbered among them by their
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father's tribe, for the Lord had spoke to Moses saying,
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only the tribe of Levi you shall not number, nor
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shall you take their census among the sons of Israel.
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But you shall appoint the Levites over the Tabernacle of
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the Testimony and over all its furnishings, and over all
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that belongs to it. And they shall carry the tabernacle
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and all its furnished YadA.
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YadA, YadA, YadA YadA. Right, YadA, YadA, YadA YadA.
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It's good for you to realize that. Wait a minute, right,
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here's a great big differentiation between the two. But God's
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not done there. So if you realize, you're able to
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take a highlighter and highlight each of those names, right,
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just highlight them so they're separate in your mind. You
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know you're gonna have Let's just go to uh verse
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twelve of Dan YadA YadA, YadA, of Asher YadA, YadA, YadA.
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So it makes it easier if you just outline the
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tribe name Dan and Asher, it will help you cut
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to the chase to understand it. Okay, this is the
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tribe of God and there's two names associated with that.
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So I'm gonna say this in a way you can
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understand it. So that denomination had two churches in its district.
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But look, if you read those first three chapters of numbers,
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you will be able to mechanically understand why God is
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clearly talking about two different groups in Revelation. So once again,
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it's it's it's hard for me to have a conversation
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with you about this if you don't know those first
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three chapters of numbers first. So it is reasonable that
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now that I've brought it to your attention, Scott, you
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need to make it an effort to study those first
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three chapters because it's got some well you would consider
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it some crazy things to say, some things that you
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have forgotten about, because there's all kinds of stuff in there.
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That and there is one group that God has for himself,
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very special group, and that group is specifically talked about
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in the book Revelation. And it comes right out and
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tells you that comes right out and tells you that
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and this group is absolutely psolutely exclusive and I mean
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exclusive to God himself. Well, it's a big thing to say,
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isn't it? But it is true? O? SKay? Anybody else
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questions comments? M really, nobody else has anything they want
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to say. Did anybody learn anything tonight?
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No?
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Okay, Well I guess we're ready to get prayed out
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of here? So who's gonna pray us out of here? Uh? Oh,
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you might have to pick on somebody. Well, I've just
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seen that Brian's in the room. How's going, bry and
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Carol just joined? Well, Carol, that you all get here,
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didn't it? Because we're done? Well? Better late than never,
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But I guess it's never then late.
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Night.
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Sorry, I.
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Couldn't figure out how to unmute.
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Okay, all right, Well, no, biggie, how's going, briy Yah?
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Not too bad.
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It's just I've been following along for the last few
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days and weeks, of course. But some good stuff, that's
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for sure.
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Yeah, good stuff. I hope you've been enjoying my stuff
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with Michael Parker.
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Oh yeah, big time.
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He's uh, he's got a big heart, so he's very
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well intentioned. Yeah, good stuff. Good.
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Yeah, and that part stands out the most to me.
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It's hard, that's what just shines.
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Yes, yes it does, Yeah, it does. So good stuff
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with good stuff with Michael. So all right, who wants
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to pray us out of here? Anybody? You know what, No, no, no, Carol,
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you have to pray us out of here.
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Okay, So let's start with the Lord's prayer.
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Our Father, who are in heaven. Hello, be a thy name,
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Thy Kingdom. Come.
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Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
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Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us
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our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.
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And lead us not a temptation, but deliver us from evil.
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For Thine is the king forever and never. Thank you Father,
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Thank you for the breath of life. Thank you Jesus
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for the blood of the Lamb. Thank you for salvation
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and Jesus nay, Amen, Amen and amen.
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, until next time, God bless,
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God speed.