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Fellowship 003

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  1. Welcome to the fellowship everybody. I am promptu fellowship here again.

  2. This is probably how we're just gonna proceed. I can't

  3. see having time to do anything else. I prepared for

  4. one thing, so but the spirit must move. I don't

  5. I don't need notes, I don't need I don't need

  6. sermon indexes, I don't need any of that garbage. So

  7. but we do need to talk, we do need to fellowship.

  8. We do need to and I'm really I've really been

  9. wanting to touch space with Jonie today for a reason

  10. because I know that she well, I know where she

  11. came from. So we're gonna talk a little me and

  12. HER's going to I'm gonna ask her a few questions.

  13. So before I do that, is there anything anybody wants

  14. to talk about? And it doesn't matter. It can be personal,

  15. it can be a Bible question, whatever, anything. If God

  16. is put on your heart something, we'll do it. Anybody

  17. going once, going twice.

  18. Iim Matthew, Hey, what's going on? Yes I can hear Hey, Sorry,

  19. I'm out in the yard working. But I mean specifically,

  20. I don't know what really you are going to talk about.

  21. But as far as like if you could touch on

  22. like generational curses type of a deal, you know, as

  23. far as like addictions stuff like that, because it's kind

  24. of weird with my family on both sides, you know,

  25. like there's like alcoholism and addiction that's ran through you know,

  26. and I've dealt with it myself, that runs through both

  27. sides of my family. And it's really weird because sometimes

  28. it'll hit the people that you don't think would be

  29. like that. And I don't know if it has something

  30. to do with like the general curse or the generational

  31. curse type thing and the Old Testament, or if that's

  32. just just sin and flesh, you know what I mean,

  33. or if that does have something to do with Yeah, Okay.

  34. Yes, I I will certainly address that here in a

  35. few all right, Jonny, you're welcome. Jonny, come on Mike

  36. for a sec I want to ask you a couple

  37. of brainstormers. Number one, have you been taught this.

  38. Boy?

  39. It's got several different names, but this transference where christ

  40. obedience has transferred to you. Have you heard about that?

  41. I have not? Okay, so have you ever? I mean,

  42. which surprises me because I would expect you to have

  43. listened to what's the big names. MacArthur, Ray Comfort.

  44. No, actually, I mean I know them both really, but yeah,

  45. not as a practice. I think my mom listened to

  46. MacArthur a lot.

  47. But and how about Piper, he's another big one.

  48. No, that'd be my brother. He'd be more.

  49. Now that's what I would expect.

  50. Yeah, yeah, but that's more the what do we call it?

  51. Reformed whatever?

  52. Right? Yeah? Extreme reformed where Yeah, well, it's heresy that

  53. you don't have to live righteously because everything that God,

  54. you know, everything that Jesus did, transfers to you automatically,

  55. which is of course blatant heresy. But mhm, everybody needs

  56. to realize that the church has been overran with this.

  57. It's it's it's to the point. Now it's not not

  58. funny they all use different terminology, but literally, this is

  59. into every church. And I'm going to shock you. And

  60. I haven't talked about this for a while, but you

  61. all need to be aware of this. Before the seventies,

  62. you weren't allowed to transfer your membership to a different denomination.

  63. Now you can. Now. The reason why we're talking about

  64. this is I have been well I need to be

  65. edified too, right so through Phil Armstrong, I find I

  66. found this this gentleman that runs a you tube channel,

  67. holding firmly and his name is Mike Desaio. He died

  68. back in October of twenty sixteen. You know, eventually my

  69. batteries have to get charged, right. So anyway I listened

  70. to I just started from the beginning like I always do,

  71. and I'm walking through the programs and I'm to the

  72. point where he well, for one, well, I want to

  73. be very very hesitant what I say about him. His

  74. ministry turned into a watchdog ministry. And everybody knows that

  75. I don't do that. I don't do that for reasons

  76. that there is reasons. A number one, you do not

  77. give honor where honor is not due. Now take note.

  78. You heard me just say three names, and I'm not

  79. going to do it again, okay. And that's the reason why,

  80. because literally after probably ten or fifteen videos, he stopped preaching,

  81. he stopped proclaiming the gospel. What he did was just

  82. attack these people. He was playing clips of them. He

  83. was and under no circumstance should you do that. And

  84. he got to the point where he would speak so

  85. much of what they said and so much of what

  86. the Bible said if he had taken psychology, he would

  87. have known better. Literally, he was mingling the doctor. Now,

  88. if it takes psychology or education classes, you realize that

  89. there is an age group. You can't do that too.

  90. You cannot, you cannot talk about what is not true

  91. because there is a certain age group below which which

  92. of course I'll come right out and tell you nine

  93. and below. You can't talk about what's not true. So

  94. these watchdog ministries, and you've heard me say this, for

  95. they're no ministry at all. That's this non a ministry.

  96. But he got to the point where he was saying

  97. so much of what they said, and then he would

  98. turn around and say what he said. It became indistinguishable.

  99. And because he began to rant. Once you begin to rant,

  100. well psychologically, one of the things that happens to you

  101. is you will chase your hotel. You've heard me say

  102. that before, but literally, in this last video that I

  103. that I listened to, he literally said the same three

  104. verses seventeen times, and that's when I hit the stop button.

  105. He was literally just going around in circles. So that's

  106. not how I've done it, and that's not how I

  107. do it. And now you know why, because there was

  108. a reason why I took psychology classes. There's the reason

  109. why that the people who raised me directed me to

  110. do so. Because there comes a point where you will

  111. become emotionally involved and you will see these people as

  112. your enemy. And let me be very plain to you,

  113. if you don't know them, they can't be your enemy.

  114. If they and listen, I'm saying something that you need

  115. to understand what I just said. If they don't know

  116. what you look like, and they have never met you,

  117. and they've never talked with you, they cannot be your enemy.

  118. They can't be. So there is no reason for you

  119. to invest your emotions into someone you don't know. But literally,

  120. after like I said, probably fifteen videos, through the course

  121. of all these videos, he had just it had just

  122. slowly and gradually turned into a rant. He was just

  123. chasing his own tail. And literally the last five videos

  124. was exactly the same. They had different titles, but he

  125. said exactly the same thing, just over and over and

  126. over and over and over. She was speaking as if

  127. he was trying to convert them, when the scripture plainly

  128. says they cannot be converted. Look, I don't need to

  129. tell you these things. You know, if you've read the

  130. New Testament, you know what the Bible states about someone

  131. who was once saved winding up teaching heresy. It would

  132. literally take a professional, one on one basis to save

  133. somebody who is teaching falsely. I don't mean the people

  134. in the pews. That's not what I mean. They themselves,

  135. They themselves and every one of the people that I mentioned.

  136. If you get upset, fine, I can prove what I

  137. have stated about these three individuals in a court of

  138. law with no problem whatsoever, and I have been trained

  139. to do so. Yes, one of these I'm not going

  140. to call him a gentleman because he's not, because I

  141. know where he is. He was a practitioner of wickedness,

  142. just like Jesus Christ said. And not only that, he

  143. literally trained other people to be practitioners of iniquity. I mean,

  144. when it comes out of your mouth that you can

  145. molest children and go to heaven that Jesus Christ has

  146. covered all your sins, past, present, in future, your God's enemy.

  147. Do you know who else says that, I'll tell you Satan,

  148. and I'm here to tell you. I'm here to tell

  149. you on two thousand years of historical evidence. Yes he

  150. is deceased, and yes he is in the bowels of

  151. hades right now. So this is why this is not

  152. a you know, exposing ministry, right. I can't come up

  153. with a proper termology of these. Jony helped me here.

  154. What are these ministries that that that say they are

  155. exposing bad preachers? It's expecting me.

  156. I've listened to Mike Winger.

  157. Who's that? Oh Mike Winger? What is that?

  158. Let me check his name? And also I realize I

  159. have listened to Ray Comfort. I know it is Living Waters.

  160. Yeah.

  161. Wow, he witnesses to people. Yea mm hm, I definitely.

  162. Have, so I have to So no, that's all right.

  163. So who is this other guy guy?

  164. You said, Mike Winger?

  165. So he has an exposing ministry or what?

  166. Yeah, he's on YouTube and stuff.

  167. I actually first learned about him through Aaron.

  168. Through erin. Okay, So so what does he do? Jon?

  169. He explains the error of doctrines.

  170. Of other people of doctrines.

  171. And he does what he does, name the preachers who

  172. are preaching it. Okay, but he takes you through the

  173. Bible and explains.

  174. Okay, all right, Well that's not a ministry Okay if

  175. now it's one thing if he's just talking about doctrines,

  176. but if he's doing what what I'm talking about. What

  177. I'm talking about these people that intentionally give expose as

  178. on like you know, any of the people that I

  179. just mentioned, they will give expose on them, they'll bring

  180. on their quote in their videos, They'll have you watch

  181. videos of them speaking. That's what I'm talking about.

  182. Now, I've never heard Ray Comfort to that, and maybe

  183. I'm confusing with somebody else. But is he the person

  184. that walks up to people on the street.

  185. I don't that's who he is, the Ray Comfort. Yeah, okay,

  186. he seems like a sweet old man, but yeah.

  187. No he's not. No, he's not. I'm well familiar with

  188. what he is and what just came out of your mouth.

  189. That's a last thing on earth he is.

  190. I'm sorry, what do you what do you sorry? What

  191. do you think about?

  192. What's their name?

  193. Cliff, Cliff Connectly and his son?

  194. I can't. Yeah, once again, Aaron has actually talked about

  195. him and I don't, I don't know. I don't know him.

  196. I mean I know a lot of these like online

  197. pastors and stuff, you know, like they get they get

  198. crap all twisted up to be honest, like pretty much

  199. the only pastor that I listened to online now, Like

  200. you know, like I said, I've been listening to you

  201. for years, but really like the only ones I take

  202. seriously is maybe like a Philip Anthony Mitchell, to be honest.

  203. I don't know if I'm sure you've probably seen him.

  204. He just kind of got a little I don't know

  205. if he wanted to be famous, but his churches kind

  206. of blew up. But uh, I mean he's just you know,

  207. telling people to repent like twenty four to seven and

  208. to be honest, like he got the hell fire and

  209. brimstone preaching, you know that I grew up with and

  210. I like him a lot.

  211. Yeah, that's I I'll watch a little.

  212. Sorry, I'm sorry, but I watch a little bit of everything,

  213. but I kind of know which ones to weed out

  214. and to not for the most part, you know, until

  215. something triggers me that they're say and I'm like, oh,

  216. I don't need to listen to them anymore.

  217. Amen, No, I don't. I don't know him, and and

  218. you know, because I'm a Biblicist, I don't. I don't

  219. have time to go around and listen, I don't. I

  220. can't waste my time like that. The Lord is very

  221. critical of my time. So you know, I anybody that

  222. is teaching repentance, you can, you can pretty well. How

  223. do I say that? Well, that is the best litmus test.

  224. The people that I mentioned here today, they will never

  225. tell you to repent because they believe the devil himself

  226. is going to heaven with you. So that being said, okay,

  227. I am going to speak a little bit more about

  228. Mike DeSario. Everything that he says about salvation is absolutely

  229. one hundred percent true, and I wish that I could

  230. have got to know him. Unfortunately, like I said, when

  231. I do something, I do it systematically. So I was

  232. going through each of these videos and I ran across one,

  233. and you know how I am just give me a minute.

  234. I'm gonna have to walk over there and see which

  235. one it was. I can't misquote myself, And to be

  236. honest with you, I thought about producing a video about it.

  237. But because he well he spoke with authority and he

  238. was absolutely dead banged wrong. So I'm not going to

  239. say that he was lying. That's not what I'm going

  240. to say he was doing. He but he is boy,

  241. how will I say that. I will explain it. You

  242. will have to realize that I fear God. So going

  243. from there, I have to be very careful what I say.

  244. But what he said was absolutely in error for more

  245. than one reason. So let me get here.

  246. You must.

  247. I'm sorry if you got dead air here and pretty

  248. good not doing that. Given over to reprobate mind. It

  249. has twenty thousand views. It was uploaded thirteen years ago,

  250. given over to reprobate mind. In here, he well, he

  251. misquotes God's word. He completely gets so caught up in

  252. his emotions thinking that these false teachers are his enemies

  253. when they obviously don't know of his existence. And if

  254. they did know of his existence comments that he made

  255. throughout the series, they probably know him in a very

  256. bad light. He probably went on their web pages, he

  257. went on their YouTube channels and started attacking them. And

  258. I have told all of you since day one, we

  259. don't do that. You do it in private. Okay. So

  260. that being said, he grossly stated that the Bible said

  261. something it does not say. And about that, let me

  262. explain something to you, Jony, come back on here for

  263. a minute. When did I first started teaching Maranatha, well

  264. the In Time Tribune or What Is to Come or

  265. whatever ministry it was at the time, but it's always

  266. been Baronava ministries. But anyway, when did I start teaching

  267. you that God's word was polycemic It means more than

  268. one thing.

  269. I think from the beginning. I don't remember that word

  270. in the early early days because I wouldn't have understood

  271. it anyway.

  272. Right, Yes, yes, I withheld that terminology for I think

  273. ten years because I knew. I knew you just and

  274. when I say you, I mean the body, I mean

  275. the ecclesia that we have here online. I knew that

  276. you could not information overload. But I did teach you

  277. that God's word meant more than one thing. And I

  278. did this. My baby step was this. I taught you that, yes,

  279. sometimes the Hebrew says something different than the Greek, but

  280. they are both true. That's the baby step into that.

  281. But anyway, I.

  282. Think another baby step, if you don't mind, I think

  283. another baby step was how I learned through you to

  284. pay attention to words so much differently than I ever

  285. had before, Like every word, every English word, things like entertainment,

  286. enter containment. So just awakening us to how the Bible

  287. was like that God was saying a lot in words.

  288. Listen to words, pay attention, look at them.

  289. Yes, yes, from the beginning. Yes, that was another baby

  290. step because you had to really well, Yes, that was

  291. another baby step. So now sixteen years on, has it

  292. been that long? Yeah? Sixteen years on, I'm going to

  293. speak and use that terminology. So if those of you

  294. that are listening in the archive, what polysemic means is yes,

  295. it's an English term. It means it means more than

  296. one thing. Okay, you know this is the case. I

  297. always give my prime example. This is beyond contestation. John

  298. says he sees a lamb looking as if it had

  299. been slain. Yes, yes, yes he did see that. He

  300. also seen the Lord Jesus Christ. Oh yes he did.

  301. So.

  302. Whenever these Mike DeSario did not comprehend that he had

  303. a very focused ministry to expose these, and he is correct,

  304. they are wolves in sheep's clothing. But poor poor Mike

  305. did not realize that they were never Christians. He didn't

  306. properly investigate it. He thought that someone had taught them

  307. this or they come up with it themselves, and they

  308. were just wrong. Mike had no idea. No, they were

  309. always anti Christ and they went and got a degree.

  310. They were never born again. But Mike never put two

  311. and two together. He didn't realize that. What Mike was

  312. saying was if you're practicing iniquity, you are not a Christian.

  313. You were only a Christian if you've been born again.

  314. These people were never born They had no intention of

  315. being born again. What they did was entered into seminary,

  316. got their theological degrees with the intention of dismantling the

  317. body of Christ. Now, look, I know that's a shock

  318. to your system, but you need to realize this. My

  319. son just experienced this. He was like, wait a minute,

  320. if there's a massive shortage of pastors, why do you

  321. still have to pay to get a degree to become

  322. a pastor. For example, there's one denomination here where I

  323. live in North Dakota that aaron is attending, but their

  324. pastor only comes once a month because there's four churches

  325. here without a pastor. So this one pastor goes to

  326. one church every Sunday for a month. So whenever that

  327. preacher comes is the only time they could have communion.

  328. That should set off alarms with you. But so my

  329. son contacts this denomination. Well, you're obviously gonna give me

  330. a theological degree for free. Oh no, oh no, they're not.

  331. Somebody has to pay for it. It is this mechanism

  332. by which Satan has taken over the church. And I'm

  333. sorry if you haven't researched this, but believe me you

  334. I did before I went to an institution of higher learning.

  335. And I went to an institution of higher learning. The

  336. reason why I went was to find a born again bride.

  337. I didn't need. Didn't teach me nothing, make no mistakes.

  338. They had nothing to teach me. Now, the head of

  339. the Old Testament department at the time would have testified

  340. to that, so I already knew my church had figured

  341. this out, that they were paying atheists to go get

  342. theological degrees. These I'm not going to name these big names.

  343. I'm I don't expose you know, these what do you

  344. call it, New World Order, whatever you want to call it,

  345. these wich people that run our society. Yes, that's what

  346. they do. They will literally pay for these astute atheists

  347. that are in And I'm going to say it because

  348. I'm sorry if you don't know this, but yeah, they

  349. hook up with these people through their political party. And

  350. if you didn't know that, I look, it's not what

  351. I do. I teach the Bible. But I'm just flat

  352. telling you Mike didn't realize. These jokers were never Christians.

  353. They were always God's enemy, and what they did they

  354. did with funding to do it. So Mike didn't realize

  355. that his He didn't realize that everything he was doing

  356. was for naught. What he should have been doing was

  357. preaching the gospel. You you do not give honor where

  358. honor is not due. You don't mention their names. What

  359. you do is teach what is right, what does the

  360. Bible actually say? And you have to do this because

  361. you have to realize that a minister of God is

  362. teaching to every demographic. When you open your mouth, you

  363. better open it as if you're speaking to a nine

  364. year old, because if you're not, you need to shut up.

  365. So in this episode, he grossly states that the Bible

  366. says something that it is not saying. Because he did

  367. not understand God's word was polycenic, and because no one

  368. ever he taught him this, he built up a maze

  369. in his mind. Now he thought these were safety barriers.

  370. He was putting up these barriers in his mind in

  371. between these these false prophets. But he got obsessed with them,

  372. and before he knew it, he had built himself a maze.

  373. He was literally doing exactly what he said they did.

  374. He said that they would they took like four or

  375. five verses out of context, and that's all they would

  376. talk about. Well, that's all he talked about. I can

  377. literally give you the list. That's all Mike talked about.

  378. He just went run and round circles. Even though his

  379. primary message of salvation is one hundred percent he is correct.

  380. He is the only person that I've heard publicly state

  381. he is neither. How do you say that he is

  382. neither a Calvinist or Armenian. Now most of you at

  383. least know what that means. That means you're reformed, once saved,

  384. always saved, or your holiness. He was neither.

  385. He was neither.

  386. I've never heard anybody else say that. So there's times

  387. that he rails against well, obviously Luther, I mean Luther

  388. is heretic. Number one. Luther said that Jesus Christ fornicated

  389. on three different occasions, and in other parts he quotes Wesley,

  390. even though he never says where John Wesley is wrong.

  391. He does mention John Wesley being wrong, and he said

  392. that basically at the end of the day, they were

  393. teaching the same thing. So you need to be very

  394. careful what you're doing. You need to be very careful

  395. who you're who you're listening to. And Rocky gave a

  396. good listeners test. It's okay to run across these these

  397. people because I'm not the only one that's been born again.

  398. There's many out there. But listen for them to say

  399. you need to repent, because that means something. That means

  400. they do not believe you're once they'd always saved. So

  401. that is a good litmus test. If you hear somebody

  402. saying that, that usually means that they don't believe in

  403. this lie. And Mike DeSario is right about it that

  404. it is the lie that is the lie that has

  405. destroyed the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ. These atheists

  406. have taken over the churches in the pulpit and they

  407. begin teaching God's children that you can practice iniquity and

  408. go to heaven. No you can't. The Bible gives one

  409. magical verse, no liar will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

  410. Now look Peter, Paul and Mary didn't say that. The

  411. Lord Jesus Christ said that. So you need to understand.

  412. I need to tell you, like I've always told you,

  413. what law is he talking about? Is he talking about

  414. the law where you know, well, there's there's literally six

  415. hundred and three laws that don't matter. Okay. So the

  416. law referenced here is the Ten Commandments. The other is

  417. the Commandments that Jesus Christ added to it. You know

  418. that to be the beatitude. So that's what you need

  419. to write down, and you need to put on your refrigerator,

  420. you need to put it on your dashboard, whatever you

  421. gotta do. Get and everybody hearing my voice. That's been

  422. a part of Maranatha ministries from the beginning. This isn't

  423. the first time I've told you to do it. I

  424. wonder how many of you have actually done it. Where's

  425. your list at where's the Ten Commandments? Where's the Beatitudes?

  426. I've made visual aids for this that you could have downloaded. YadA, YadA, YadA.

  427. I'm just telling you, no one who practices iniquity will

  428. enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Now that being said, be

  429. very careful who you digest, be very careful who you digest.

  430. They can be a dispensationalist or they can be a preterorrist.

  431. That's what Mike DeSario is. He's a preterorist. So no

  432. one understands this that if you're a preterorist, well you're

  433. at least partially right, because yeah, it actually did happen

  434. in seventy eight. Your problem is is that God's history

  435. itself is isochronal. You know this. You can't debate with

  436. me about it because all of you know full well

  437. that the temple was destroyed more than once, the abomen

  438. nation no desolation occurred more than once, and Jesus Christ

  439. absolutely said it's going to happen again. So if you

  440. say something else, it's because just like Mike DeSario, you're

  441. in ignorance. I didn't say you were in rebellion. I

  442. just said you were in ignorance. And you have to

  443. be very careful. If you're in ignorance, you need to

  444. learn to read the Bible for yourself, because you are

  445. way beyond with that excuse. I mean, I preach it,

  446. I've been preaching it. I've narrowed it down to just

  447. one website or one app. It's called blue Letter Bible.

  448. You can see the actual Greek and the actual Hebrew

  449. very elementary fashion like from blue Letter Bible. I use

  450. both the app and the webpage. Makes it very easy. Yeah, yes, yes,

  451. you can know what God's word says. And once you

  452. can do that, no one can lie to you. So

  453. what do we call what Mike did with this passage

  454. that I mentioned in this video. What is it when

  455. you're absolutely saying something that is not true but you're

  456. not intentionally doing So what is that called? Joni, let

  457. me pick on you. What's that called? Is someone lying

  458. that is not saying the truth that they don't know

  459. what's the truth? No, well, then what do you call it?

  460. Deceived? Lost, in error?

  461. I think that that's what I would use. You're in error,

  462. you're not lying. Is there consequences for being in error?

  463. Yes?

  464. Please do explain.

  465. Forty years worth.

  466. Or more?

  467. Yeah?

  468. Just obvious lost?

  469. I mean not.

  470. Consuming the truth is yeah? I mean even when I

  471. really meant while I was still wandering around, so the

  472. Bible didn't make sense to me. I yeah, I had

  473. a hard time studying, had a hard time learning, just

  474. treading walk.

  475. I bet because what you were hearing was nothing what

  476. the Bible was saying when you read it. I mean

  477. they were preaching something else altogether, right, yeah, I mean

  478. as disturbing as that is, it is the truth. So

  479. be very careful what you do, right, Joni.

  480. I you don't want us to name names?

  481. Right? No, yes, you may name names.

  482. So I consumed right before I met you or came

  483. to the group, I consumed Chuck Missler NonStop everything, and

  484. I always then when I met you and I started

  485. a study the Bible for myself, I always thought, do

  486. authors ever contact publishers and say stop? That wasn't true?

  487. What I don't sell that book anymore?

  488. Oh my goodness, you don't know, do you. No, no, honey,

  489. you just don't write a book and then a publisher

  490. publish it. I'm sorry if you thought that. No, no, no, no, no,

  491. that's not how the churches fund the printing presses. They

  492. fund the printing presses because they choose someone and give

  493. them a manuscript. They give them what they want published,

  494. and this author writes what they want. I'm sorry if

  495. you didn't know that, but that is the absolute truth,

  496. and you need to know this. So what denomination was

  497. Chuck Missler a part of I don't.

  498. Know, but I mean it all fit with everything I

  499. came from, so it's probably it.

  500. All fit with Chuck Smith cal Chapel.

  501. Yeah.

  502. I didn't come from Calbary Chapel, but okay, well I

  503. might as well have.

  504. I guess right, it's just a different outhouse. Okay, I'm

  505. stealing that. Yeah, yes, Chuck Smith dictated what he published.

  506. I said, Chuck Missler, I know what you said.

  507. Oh, okay, Calvary Chapel is Chuck Smith. I've told you

  508. this before, just like I told you what happened with

  509. the church I went to and off. Yet remember his

  510. son was that very extremely famous singer, and when he

  511. was done, he just closed the church and took all

  512. the money. Because if you're a Calvary Chapel, it's a

  513. it's a private.

  514. Ownership like a franchise.

  515. Yes, and the poor congregation don't know it until you

  516. just take all the money and shut the church down.

  517. So anyway, I'm sorry if you didn't know that. But

  518. let's take Zondervan. I mean, I could really just the

  519. root or lay the acts at the root if I

  520. wanted to. Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, don't you dare think

  521. that these you have to be authorized to publish. You

  522. have to look everybody that winds up on the national

  523. bestseller list that was already planned. It is rigged worse

  524. than wrestling. Let me say that again, the Christian publishing

  525. industry is rigged worse than wrestling. So anyway, what does

  526. so once you come to me, when did you stop

  527. digesting Chuck Missler?

  528. Well, my hunger was I was drawn to you because

  529. I knew you know about the end times and what

  530. was coming from the vantage point of all my false teaching,

  531. and I was fascinated by it all and trying to learn.

  532. And Chuck Missler talked about all of that, wrote about

  533. all of that. I read his books, listened to him.

  534. I'm sorry. So your question was when did I put

  535. it aside? Pretty right, like pretty soon, really pretty soon?

  536. So do you consider Chuck Missler now to be part

  537. of that false teaching or not?

  538. Oh? Totally?

  539. And why is that? And why is that?

  540. Because it's all based on dispensationalism zionism, and that's who

  541. funded him from the beginning. Yeah, I didn't know that

  542. at the time, but it's all the false stuff, everything

  543. that you know, just I my brain had to be rewired.

  544. It didn't it? It did? Yeah, but it was, wasn't it?

  545. Amen?

  546. You know right now.

  547. Still being by the way, right now.

  548. You're my perfect check, right because if I misquote something,

  549. now you can actually go to the Greek and see

  550. if what I said was true. Right, You actually don't

  551. need me anymore, right, Jony.

  552. I don't know if that's true, but I have enough

  553. tools to try. But I'm would be very sorry to

  554. lose you.

  555. You ain't gonna lose me. I'm not that lucky. But

  556. did you ever feel once you left Chuck Missler, did

  557. you feel that that was an intentional deception? Well?

  558. That's why I said, I really because he was has been.

  559. I don't even know if he's alive anymore, but no,

  560. he's dead, Okay, so prolific that he was still alive

  561. at the time. And I just, you know, when I

  562. began to realize this was false, I thought, does he

  563. you know? I was having thoughts like does he know

  564. it's false? And some of the claims, the boldness because

  565. he spoke with such authority about things, and I thought,

  566. does he does he ever turn around in that many

  567. years of ministry and realize I was wrong about this

  568. or wrong about that. Because we're all still learning, we

  569. can be right. Yeah, I mean the rest of our lives.

  570. I am sorry. Did I set a trap for you?

  571. You didn't understand where it was going. So let me

  572. ask you this. I said that you could me and

  573. prove if what I said was right or wrong. Could

  574. Chuck Messler? Could he do a better job than you

  575. of checking what I said? No? Probably not really. You

  576. think that Chuck Missler could not determine if what I

  577. said was true or not.

  578. Well, I think if he's a false teacher and he's

  579. leading people.

  580. Astray, that's not what I said.

  581. Then he doesn't have the Holy Spirit with him.

  582. That's not what I said. Could he check the Hebrew

  583. and Greek to see if what I was saying was true?

  584. Oh?

  585. Well yes, And.

  586. You're saying he's more qualified to do that than you.

  587. I am sorry. I'm pointing out the obvious to you.

  588. He obviously was doing it intentionally. You cannot that familiar

  589. with God's word and not know what it says. So

  590. I have proven this to you with your own words.

  591. Oh yes, he did know. He was dead bang wrong.

  592. He was never talking about what was true. He was

  593. talking about the talking points he was paid to talk about. Oh,

  594. yes he was.

  595. That seems like a lot of the pastors nowadays.

  596. Unfortunately, yes it does.

  597. And I'm probably like younger than everybody on here or yeah,

  598. probably what do you think about like, you know, because

  599. I told you like I kind of grew up on

  600. like like my uncle was more.

  601. Like a Pentecostal I would say, like one of this Pentecostal,

  602. but I don't know Pentecostal pre you know, Like he

  603. gave me books from like like Smith Wigglesworth, which.

  604. Oh really, yeah, I am very familiar with him.

  605. I mean I think he was, like, you know, because

  606. when I was a little bit younger, which I wouldn't

  607. say you that much younger. I guess I'll be thirty

  608. fives this year, you know, but like six seven years

  609. ago something like that, whenever I was trying to get

  610. you know, closer to God again, you know, from just

  611. being an idiot when I was younger, like he gave

  612. me some books. He gave me a book called like

  613. They Shall Expelled Demons, which I haven't read that one,

  614. but I don't like there, okay, and then the Smith Wigglesworth,

  615. like he I don't know. He seemed like he was

  616. really really close to the Lord, you know what I

  617. mean to hear people like hey a Allen and.

  618. Hey, yeah, I mean I haven't read a lot of stuff.

  619. You know, they're just pastors. I'm thrown out there, you

  620. know what I mean. But pastors that you know, I

  621. have less do. They're actually like ride around the corner

  622. actually where I work at Mount Juleet here at Tennessee,

  623. Like we got Greg Locke right there, And I actually

  624. like Greg Locke to be honest. I know he's got

  625. a lot of freaking crazy, you know, stuff around him,

  626. but he's always just telling people like repent, you know,

  627. like and I don't know, you know, because I mean,

  628. I know I can discern a lot of stuff, you know,

  629. but some stuff like I'm not as close to Jesus

  630. as I want to be, you know, So I don't

  631. know if sometimes like I'm getting letters straight, but I

  632. know what the Bible says, and I go, like, what

  633. you've said, what you've said, you know, Like the Bible

  634. says what it says, and it means what it means,

  635. you know, like it don't mean something just because that's

  636. how you feel. There's no private interpretations of scripture, you know.

  637. So I feel like, if it says that, that's what

  638. it means, you know, which I know it's like you said,

  639. polysmic and it's isochromal, like you've taught it, you know.

  640. But if it says what it says, you know, that

  641. is what it is. You can't just go around and

  642. just make up something because that's your feelings about it,

  643. you know, like the ones they've always said. Thing. You know.

  644. When I talked to my uncle about that, he's like, well,

  645. God says no one can plug you on sorry hand

  646. all that. I'm like, yeah, but if somebody says they're

  647. believe in Jesus but they're just living like the devil,

  648. you know, then obviously and he was, you know, and

  649. he told me like, well, yeah, you can't do that,

  650. but yeah, well you can't teach somebody one thing. And

  651. then you know what I mean.

  652. Yes, I know what you mean. Well that is to say,

  653. at this point, okay, at this point, your litmus test

  654. is are they telling you you can live like the devil?

  655. Or are they telling you to repent? From that point

  656. you you listen to me. Everybody, you need to only

  657. listen to exegetical preaching. I should be every pastor, Yes,

  658. do not listen to any sermon that is not exegetical.

  659. What does that mean? A good example of well, what

  660. that means is this, A preacher will take a stanza

  661. from the Bible and that's what he preaches. That's what

  662. it's on. A sermon will never piece meal a message, ever,

  663. They'll never it will never be one verse out of

  664. this book, one verse out of that book, one verse

  665. out of this book. An exegetical sermon is verse by verse.

  666. You only need to listen to verse by verse sermons,

  667. and you only need to read the Bible. And there's

  668. a reason for that, because if this joker in front

  669. of you, and if you see him taking a word

  670. from a different translation and saying that it means this,

  671. you need to be able to tear that apart in

  672. the Greek and find out what that word actually is.

  673. For example, the gentleman I just mentioned, he stated that

  674. the word for man in this verse actually meant mankind.

  675. That was a complete error. No, no, it didn't. He

  676. then went on to say that it was the Greek

  677. word tis. In English we would say tis. No, no,

  678. it wasn't. He knew so little about the Greek or

  679. how to how to interpret it. He was literally saying

  680. that two different he had mixed up two different verses.

  681. He was in He was in gross error. So this

  682. is why you need to be able to listen to

  683. a pastor sermon and when and the Holy Spirit will

  684. always do this. Just like Joni mentioned earlier, a word

  685. will strike you wrong and you're like, wait a minute,

  686. that's not right. The Holy Spirit will do that to

  687. you even though you don't know what he's doing. And

  688. this is exactly how I taught Joni. She later sent

  689. me messages, Hey, that happened. What is this? I heard

  690. somebody say this verse and it meant that what is

  691. that in Greek? What is that in Hebrew? How did

  692. she know that? Was she psychic? No, it was the

  693. Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit will either ring true with

  694. you or it will not. It will be a resounding gong,

  695. and you need to be able to get to the

  696. Greek to check it.

  697. So let's me ask a question, Matthew.

  698. Yes, so just to clarify, because I feel like I needarification.

  699. Maybe other people do. I don't know, Maybe I'm just

  700. just the loner here.

  701. But you know that story you tell sometimes about when

  702. you had to dig to find out where your.

  703. Tied money was going.

  704. You had to do a lot of legwork and find

  705. out the source and where everything was going and what

  706. was happening.

  707. So it is it okay because you said like not

  708. to give people, not to give honor where honor is

  709. not due.

  710. But how do we how much can we give any

  711. time to finding out about these heretical things that are

  712. being taught, like like Calvin, what you mentioned Calvin, Like

  713. there's lots of if we have talked about with him before,

  714. Where do we draw the line of Okay, we know

  715. that he's bad and now we're moving on.

  716. Does that make sense?

  717. Like where how is there a time dictate we should

  718. be like, Okay, we've spent we've spent this amount of

  719. time on this and now we know what he is

  720. and now we're done. We're going and going on to

  721. the next thing.

  722. Time limit will a number one. You're talking about two

  723. different worlds, and you need to clarify which world you're

  724. talking about. Are you talking about the physical world or

  725. are you talking about the electronic world? Because I'm telling

  726. you flat out that you need to research your pastor

  727. right now, not later. So you need to concentrate all

  728. your effort on the pastor that is teaching your children. Okay,

  729. so you do that first, and there was no time

  730. limit on that. Okay. Next, if it's electronic, let's say

  731. one of the people that I just mentioned, you need

  732. to do so, just like I said that I did

  733. with Mike Gasario, go to their first one. Listen, you

  734. go until you catch them and error, and then you're

  735. done with them unless you want. I mean, if they're

  736. very entertaining to you and the spirit is striking you, right,

  737. if you want to, you can contact them and ask

  738. them privately. You misquoted the Bible here why you will

  739. quickly find out what they're doing. So okay, that's helpful.

  740. I just wanted to know because and then also so

  741. you know, sometimes with the way you've trained us taught us,

  742. I look for repeating history a lot.

  743. And yeah, and to know.

  744. The repeating history, you have to know the bad players

  745. and the good players, I guess.

  746. And so I mean, is that correct or incorrect?

  747. That is correct? Yeah, that's correct. Okay, But Jenny, you

  748. shouldn't you shouldn't be dumping massive amounts of time into

  749. researching these people.

  750. I get way, I agree.

  751. I just wanted to know if it was okay to say, hey,

  752. I see this person and they look to me like this, this.

  753. Is what they're appearing to me.

  754. As Yes, yes, and you're required to do that. You're

  755. required to do that, especially in your own ecclesia. You don't,

  756. You're not gonna do it publicly, but if you, if you,

  757. I mean, I'm just gonna say this name because Jony's

  758. I'm just gonna pick on him. I mean, I don't care.

  759. I mean what I say, I say with authority. Okay.

  760. If you're listening to Chuck Missler, okay, and you see that,

  761. uh hey, he says he's a duck, but he obviously

  762. ain't walking like a duck. He's not quacking like a duck,

  763. and he ain't swimming like a duck. You need to

  764. tell your own ecclesia. You need to tell your own family.

  765. You absolutely need to make sure that you know you've

  766. got one of your family members privately digesting hundreds of

  767. hours of Chuck Missler just like you did. I mean,

  768. literally everything that Jony digested was a waste of time. Well,

  769. it was worse than a waste of time. She needs

  770. to understand that Chuck Missler is an expert of indoctrination. Oh, yes,

  771. he is. I would put him as one of the

  772. number one skilled individuals of indoctrinating people. Let that just

  773. sink in. Let us riddle Jony and find out, Joni,

  774. where and why did you start listening to Chuck Missler?

  775. Golf War?

  776. Okay, why?

  777. I mean, I think I've told you this before, but

  778. even this during the Gulf War, I was my heart

  779. was very soft tour God, and I'd come back and

  780. repented and everything. But even during all my wayward years,

  781. I still totally knew the Bible was true and was listening.

  782. My ears were always to the ground for Middle Eastern

  783. things because it's all the false teaching about you know,

  784. and all that stuff. And so I think Gulf War

  785. or whatever, I think it might have been then that

  786. I really started to read his books.

  787. And how did you find out about him?

  788. I really don't remember, because I mean, I had it,

  789. we had a computer, I was married.

  790. Then you want me to tell you, Yeah, you found

  791. out to him through advertisement, because he.

  792. I found it.

  793. His publisher sank millions into promoting him. Oh yes, those churches,

  794. those books at church that you saw written by Chuck Missler.

  795. Those had been donated by the publisher.

  796. I used to go to the Christian bookstore and just shop.

  797. I've read everything in those days. That was by the way.

  798. That's what completely stopped with you. As I got rid

  799. of all those books, and then I stopped listening, which

  800. anybody listening to this, this will make it sound like

  801. I'm in a cult, but I had to stop altogether,

  802. all pastors, all books, all that stuff. Just the Bible

  803. had to get rid of it.

  804. That's right, just the Bible. Just the Bible. Uh. Yeah.

  805. Do you know what amazes me is that people actually

  806. think they're Christians for some other reason. Oh no, you're not.

  807. You're not a Christian because some Tom Dick or Harry.

  808. Oh no you're not. You're the only way you know

  809. of Jesus Christ is because of the Bible. Would you

  810. like me to prove that in a court of law?

  811. So?

  812. What time is it? It's already hours, already up. I'm

  813. going to now address these generational curses. So Jony, what

  814. say you about generational curses? Anyway?

  815. Can you hear me?

  816. Yes, I can hear you.

  817. Okay, my screen is black on my computer and I

  818. can't do anything.

  819. So okay, cool, Well, uh, you're trapped. Huh. So what

  820. do you what do you think about generational curses?

  821. Uh?

  822. Huh, Okay, let me say this. Jenny's question relates here

  823. because what she sensed in our well, I think, Jenny,

  824. please interrupt me if I speak wrong or somebody else

  825. you're headed. Your question leads to this. Jenny encouraged us

  826. to read a book and to understand the New Apostolic Reformation.

  827. Because even all these years later, she was hearing things

  828. in a few of us or all of us. I'm

  829. not sure that concerned her. And so what I think

  830. about generational curses still might be wrong. There might be

  831. error there still.

  832. But to say it, So, what book did she have?

  833. You read?

  834. Jenny?

  835. What was it called? Do you remember? I bought it?

  836. I read it?

  837. But Kingdom something or.

  838. It was called Counterfeit Kingdom. It was just sort of

  839. planting out some of the things that have crept into

  840. the church that people could could look out for if

  841. they had no real knowledge base on the topic at all.

  842. And who wrote it, Holly Pivoc never heard of him?

  843. Did you say, Holly, I think that's the right name, Yeah,

  844. Holly Pivoc I think.

  845. Okay, all right, so I'm going to continue to pick

  846. on Joni because she can't. She's black screen. She ain't

  847. got no choice. Oh yes, ladies and gentlemen. Because the

  848. Lord has a sense of humor. That's why it happened.

  849. So first off, Rocky said two different things. You might

  850. not have caught it, but let's talk about this. So

  851. it is thought that some bloodlines have a predisposition for

  852. certain addictions. That is to say nicotine, right, that is

  853. to say alcohol. Is that true?

  854. Sure?

  855. Really? So you can prove this?

  856. No, I don't know.

  857. So let's go back to the beginning, shall we. Uh

  858. uh uh oh, let's go back to the beginning. So

  859. what you're saying is is that somebody that lived and

  860. died before the blood uh, before the flood, they had

  861. a generational predisposition to be a heroin addict. Yes or no?

  862. No? I mean, I'm just saying, you know, like culturally,

  863. people inherit stuff or it's done in their family. That's

  864. all I'm thinking is yeah.

  865. Okay, all right, So that's the first thing we need

  866. to cover. There's no such thing. Okay, It is impossible

  867. for heroin addiction to be a genetic curse. That's impossible

  868. because a thousand years ago, nobody could have even possibly

  869. have been genetically predispositioned to be an heroin acdit because

  870. heroin didn't exist. So this is a blatant and obvious lie.

  871. It's a lie. Oh yes it is, yet it is. Yeah,

  872. it is. Just to prove this, I spent quite a

  873. lot of time at Indiana University. They're in Indianapolis at

  874. the library proving this very thing. So let's just do that, okay. Next. Next,

  875. what Rocky meant was Part B is is there curses

  876. in a family? Do these do these demons follow a

  877. particular family.

  878. To the grace? Yeah? That's yeah, that's kind of what

  879. I was wondering to a start interrupting at the one

  880. other thing, like, because I've heard you kind of touched

  881. on it before, is like the whole epigenetics thing, you know,

  882. and not as far as like you know, if you're

  883. alcoholic alcohol or heroine heroin or whatever, but as far

  884. as like an addiction gene or something like that, you know,

  885. want it's harder for other people to battle than others,

  886. you know, because I know epigenetics now they're kind of

  887. talking a lot about it, but it's still kind of

  888. like yours. To me. It seems like, you know, maybe

  889. with certain diseases and stuff, but as far as stuff

  890. like that, it's more willpower.

  891. But yes, you are correct, there is There is no

  892. genetic predisposition to be addicted to anything. There is, as

  893. you just stated, genetic defects, genetic diseases, that's absolutely true,

  894. not addictions. So psychologically you are clean and clear of

  895. any physical addictions. Two different things. You've heard me say

  896. this before, Rocky, I know you have. Yeah, two different

  897. kinds of addictions people, psychological and physical. So let's get

  898. back to this other one. Is it possible for or

  899. a witch's family to be cursed? Generationally speaking? Well, I

  900. hate to reign on your party. Everybody is. You have

  901. been grossly duped. If you think, for some special or

  902. random reason, you are not a member in the enmity war,

  903. you're delusional. I assure you that the devil not only

  904. hates you, he hates all of your siblings, He hates

  905. all of your parents, all the way back to Adam

  906. and Eve. You are not special. The war was always

  907. against you, Okay, So don't think yourself special because you're not.

  908. So there's no special bonus for being from a whole

  909. Masonic tribe.

  910. No, no, there's not. Okay, no there's not. Now that

  911. is to say, there are people who are a lot

  912. more harassed by these entities than others. And yes, they

  913. like to harass people whom they don't know. Remember they're

  914. not psychic, but people whom they think should pose them

  915. a threat. For example, me, you have no idea. I'm

  916. going to tell you a little story because all of

  917. you know the witness. One time Brian Ingram came and

  918. stayed at her house. He had an app on his phone,

  919. and back then smartphones were brand new, they hadn't been

  920. out very long. Well, he had this app that he

  921. could detect magnetic fields. And I can't remember the exact

  922. rhyme or reasons, and I don't remember why. But I

  923. don't remember if he asked me maybe or maybe I

  924. just said, but I told him, do you want to

  925. see if it works? And he said, well, yeah, So

  926. we go outside and I tell him where to go.

  927. I said, right there, I want you to walk closer

  928. to this spot. See what happens. Magnetic field went off

  929. the rails what is this? I said, you don't see

  930. that angel right there? And Brian freaked, he got real quiet.

  931. I said, now come over here, went to the other

  932. back corner of my house and said right there, and

  933. he walked over and he just well, his face turned pale.

  934. Brian didn't understand what was happening. He didn't, that is

  935. to say, he didn't know how I could act like

  936. it was normal. He didn't understand how I could functional normally.

  937. I mean, how can you go about your everyday business

  938. if you know this? So anyway, So, yes, if they

  939. feel that you could pose them a threat, they will

  940. definitely harass you. And yes, they most definitely harass children first.

  941. They most definitely do. They can see things you can't see.

  942. I'm not going to go at length on about that.

  943. But so, these these people are not reserved to particular families, okay.

  944. And yes, if you're in close proximity that someone is

  945. working with an unclean spirit, like let's say a witch, yes,

  946. if you're in their house, you might as well be

  947. in hades, because that unclean spirit has dominion, has been

  948. given dominion in your house. And whether you're an innocent

  949. child or not, that has no idea. What your parents

  950. are doing, what's happening to you is happening to you

  951. on purpose, because they've made deals with these entities and

  952. they have voluntarily given them permission to do what they're

  953. doing to you as a child. And I'm sorry if

  954. you didn't know these things. I'm going to say this again,

  955. you aren't special. The enmity war is directed against all

  956. of mankind, and they hate you. Get this through your

  957. thick head. They hate you, They hate your children, they

  958. hate your parents. They hate you. Now let me tell

  959. you how this usually works. I'm not going to go

  960. into a great lot of detail because quite frankly, you

  961. don't need to know. But you do need to know

  962. this that these entities will have a relationship with someone

  963. in the family. Someone will be groomed to take that

  964. family member's place once they die of natural or unnatural causes.

  965. You might as well know that up front. And you

  966. better know this first. It is very rare for the

  967. family member that's in covenant with these entities to live

  968. a natural life. Yeah, you people out there that's listening

  969. to me for all my juicy little secrets about the Bible,

  970. because you know it's actually true. You better be afraid

  971. because that entity that you're in covenant with, they're going

  972. to kill you. You will never you have no hope

  973. of living your natural life cycle. And as soon as

  974. they've picked your replacement, your dead meat. If that's all

  975. you ever was to them was meat. Okay, So if

  976. you're in this situation, are you doued? Of course not,

  977. because you can be saved, and once you are saved,

  978. all these supposed curses will be broke. Normally, this gets

  979. really bad. I'm going to tell you upfront because I

  980. have worked so much with the Child Protective Services, I've

  981. worked so much with the homeless shelters. I'm going to

  982. tell you up front. Normally, when it just happens to

  983. a child and the CPS will take the children because

  984. if a child accepts the Lord Jesus Christ and is saved,

  985. you can just imagine the havoc it wrecks in their

  986. household because this destroys the host setup. So these parents

  987. will do whatever they need to do to either. I

  988. need to weigh what I say very carefully. They'll do

  989. whatever they can do to get rid of a child. Normally,

  990. see if YES takes them. Okay, I've spoken enough about that,

  991. and I spoke of it only because Rocky asked the question.

  992. Thank you, Matthew, You're welcome. There's a lot of stuff

  993. I haven't talked to you about from when I was

  994. a little kid by that. Yeah, that I don't know,

  995. not clear up a few things probably would like to

  996. talk to you about, you know, just me and you.

  997. I mean, I'm not like ashamed of it. I don't know.

  998. It's constant, real personal stuff. But thank you for addressing.

  999. T You're welcome, and yes, we can talk about that

  1000. on air or off there if you'd like to believe

  1001. it or not. Rocky, this ain't my first rodeo.

  1002. Match.

  1003. Okay, is there anything else anybody wants to talk about?

  1004. Boyd anybody else?

  1005. Nope, I think that's good.

  1006. What Carol, I didn't hear you.

  1007. Well this Rocky went to finish. I'll go after him.

  1008. No, I was just kind of joking. I said, that's no, go.

  1009. Ahead, Thank you, Rocky. I just wanted to say, quite

  1010. a conversation tonight. I'm going to pull this all together,

  1011. and it just took me down memory lane. One of

  1012. the things I remember when I started listening to you

  1013. is that you would lament that there wasn't anybody who

  1014. spoke of pure tongue, And my lament was, is there

  1015. anyone who has a perfect doctrine? Because I haven't, madam.

  1016. Wow, it's just fun to say that, Really I don't

  1017. have a perfect doctrine. Huh. I didn't say that. I

  1018. did not say yes, yes you did.

  1019. No, I.

  1020. Did not say you.

  1021. I said, well, lest I say, I'm still listening to you.

  1022. After all these years. Well, the only perfect doctrine is this.

  1023. I've already said it earlier, but you didn't understand what

  1024. I said. Whoever you are, if you're not a Biblicist,

  1025. you're wrong. That is. The only perfect doctrine is the Bible,

  1026. God's Holy Word. You need to figure out what it's says,

  1027. and you need to know okay, up front, you need

  1028. to know that a baby must first learn how to roll.

  1029. Did you know that they have to learn how to

  1030. roll over? Yes, they do. What do they have to

  1031. learn next? They next have to learn how to lift

  1032. themselves up on their on their elbows or their hands

  1033. and their knees. Right, eventually they learn how to sprint.

  1034. You need to know this about God's Word. Okay, if

  1035. you think that you don't understand what it says today.

  1036. God will show you what it says today. But you

  1037. need to be really warned about this. It means more

  1038. than one thing, and He will show you what it

  1039. means only in a beautiful time. Do not be misled.

  1040. My mother, when she was reading to me from the

  1041. kjav do not be misled. She taught me what it meant.

  1042. But now I know ten times that from every verse,

  1043. every verse she taught me to memorize. Let's talk about Jude.

  1044. She had me memorize the whole chapter of Jude, whole thing,

  1045. memorize it. Even though I was a six year old

  1046. boy that had memorized Jude, that was nothing. I literally

  1047. only knew the words on a page. Now I can

  1048. explain to you so many different things that Jude actually means.

  1049. You could write a dissertation on it. So there was

  1050. only one true doctrine. That is the Bible, God's Holy Word.

  1051. I know this up front. It is beyond you. It's

  1052. beyond you. So you think you're a Christian because somebody

  1053. preached a health, fire and brimstone message and he went

  1054. to the altar, or you did this, or you repeated

  1055. after me out of Billy Graham, you know Crusade. No,

  1056. those are all lies. You only know about Jesus Christ

  1057. because the Bible. That's a fact. That is a fact.

  1058. You better come to grips with that. And I'm gonna

  1059. tell you something else. The Geneva Bible was a result

  1060. of the reference. It is during the Reformation that the

  1061. layers of Lies was perfected. Yep, that's a fact. From

  1062. all the heretic theologians came into absolute agreeance, was within

  1063. the fifteen hundreds. That's why you got the Bible in

  1064. English in the sixteen hundreds, first and foremost the Geneva Bible,

  1065. and then along came the kjav in sixteen eleven. If

  1066. you didn't know that, that means you don't know anything

  1067. about Jude. You think you know things about Jude, but

  1068. you probably only know about I'd say about one and

  1069. seven hundred and forty ninth of what it actually says.

  1070. God gave you the Bible in your language to counter Clericus,

  1071. because it was during the Reformation that Clericus got all

  1072. of its heads. It was an adult, this dragon had

  1073. entered into adulthood. You don't have to like it. It

  1074. is true. So there's only one perfect doctrine, that's the Bible.

  1075. And if you're not a Biblicist, you ain't what you

  1076. think you are. And I am well aware that everybody

  1077. here at one time they thought they were you know, Evangelical, free,

  1078. or they thought they were Methodist, or they thought they

  1079. were Wesleyan, or they thought they were Lutheran. If you're

  1080. not a Biblicist, you ain't what you think you are.

  1081. You're probably a Lutheran, You're probably a Wesleyan, and you

  1082. need to know that ain't good. There is a system

  1083. in the place wherein you cannot be a Biblicist and

  1084. get a degree from a seminary. That's a fact. Guess

  1085. how I know that? So, Matthew, yes, ma'am right here.

  1086. This is an example of God's word meaning more than

  1087. one thing, because we have his word in a written Bible.

  1088. But every time there's an earthquake and people are trapped

  1089. in buildings, I always pray for the people that are

  1090. stuck and are still alive that they would meet the Lord.

  1091. And he is the Word. And so maybe that's what

  1092. you mean because you're saying you can't be saved without

  1093. a Bible. That's what it sounds like, and I think

  1094. there may be many people that never never have one,

  1095. never see it before they meet the Lord.

  1096. Mm hmm. You're right about that.

  1097. He's a living word and he's the written word.

  1098. That's right, and one can never contradict the other.

  1099. And then.

  1100. I used to ask my uncle about that when I

  1101. was little. I was like, how do people, you know,

  1102. like on islands or in other countries, they've never heard

  1103. of Jesus? Like, how do they go to heaven? You know?

  1104. I know that's a I know everybody's probably heard that question,

  1105. but I don't kind of a weird one, you know,

  1106. because I've thought about that like a lot of my life,

  1107. to be honest, you know, I thought maybe if hopefully

  1108. they were living rightulously, you know, and if they have

  1109. never heard about Jesus, and I don't know, God might

  1110. judge on a different skill. But that's to somebody that's

  1111. never ever, you know, hurt about it. Well, but people

  1112. have heard it. They have no excuse, you know. That's

  1113. that's what it is.

  1114. All right. So everybody needs to research this, Okay, Faith

  1115. is obedience? Yeah, okay, So if you've got someone in

  1116. I don't know, let's say the Congo right, because it's

  1117. not a particular country. It's the Congo is a it's

  1118. a forest. Rights. You got someone in the Congo that

  1119. is not intentionally sinning by their own definition, they are

  1120. obeying by faith, Yes they are.

  1121. Yes, there is that why, he says, like copedience is

  1122. better than sacrifice.

  1123. Yes, yes, do not be misled. Everybody knows what's right

  1124. and wrong. Yes they do. Psychologists prove this one hundred

  1125. years ago. Everybody is born knowing right from wrong. Yes,

  1126. they are.

  1127. Plus his word says, he's revealed himself.

  1128. That's yes, he himself says it. You have seen me

  1129. by what I have done, and I will judge you

  1130. on what you have done. I'm sorry to die insult

  1131. your intelligence. Yeah, that's what the Bible means. Those of

  1132. you out there who believe you're just you have eternal security.

  1133. By the way, we'll just come out of my mouth.

  1134. It's going to be repeated to you in the Second resurrection,

  1135. just so you know. Okay, everybody, we've been on here

  1136. for a long time. Now an hour and a half.

  1137. Anything else, anybody, Hi, Hello, Tammy, how are you? I

  1138. am good?

  1139. I came in late because I you know, I was

  1140. visiting Mom, but I was pondering something in the middle

  1141. of the night, and it came to me, like, you know,

  1142. how Abraham send Hagar and Ishmael away. And that was

  1143. wondering if that was related to the time that the

  1144. Israelites sent their wives and kids away because they married

  1145. those women that they weren't supposed to be married to.

  1146. And then I was thinking about the kids and our

  1147. household and what's coming, and if we would have to,

  1148. you know, send our own kids away anyway, one of

  1149. those middle of the night things, you know, start thinking

  1150. about stuff.

  1151. One of those middle of the night things. I get it,

  1152. I get it. We definitely are going to send the

  1153. rest of our children away, and they will definitely be beheaded,

  1154. quite simply. They can't take the mark of the beast.

  1155. They can't. They've been sealed. That angel from Ezekiel chapter

  1156. nine seals them. And Jesus is only the first born

  1157. from the dead. He is called the first born for

  1158. a reason. He's telling you up front that there's going

  1159. to be many more that are born from the dead.

  1160. You know them to be those of the first Resurrection.

  1161. Do not be misled. We will definitely send the rest

  1162. of our children away.

  1163. Oh boy, yeah, that's probably what I was thinking about it.

  1164. Yep. And I've told you before that that literally speaking,

  1165. that's what the haggaram is.

  1166. Anyway, Okay, that was that's all I had.

  1167. Okay, all right, anybody else said that? Yay, yay? Okay?

  1168. Is that is everybody?

  1169. Anybody who I'm telling hih, get my screen back.

  1170. M hmm.

  1171. You're going to get it back after it's back, okay, cool? Hey,

  1172. oh yes, Carol.

  1173. One one thing, I have a request for a fellowship

  1174. for everyone's consideration in yours after the first Samuel fifteen

  1175. study and that led into a lot of interesting time

  1176. in the scriptures, and so I had some Sharry and

  1177. I were talking about this, especially after this.

  1178. Door's a Deception?

  1179. What that.

  1180. I'm what's that got to do with the doors of Deception?

  1181. Well you talked about the gold of oopause and Daniel

  1182. ten that being okay, Carol, when eggag Okay, I'm I'm probably.

  1183. All right stop for Carol. Stop for a minute, Carol. No,

  1184. you're cutting in and out, so I'm only getting half

  1185. of what you say. Send it to me in a text.

  1186. Your your your connection, thank you. Yep, you're welcome anybody else.

  1187. I mean you all know full well we can go

  1188. on for eight hours if you want to. I don't

  1189. care anything else. Going once, going twice, Okay, all right, everybody,

  1190. I love you. If you've never if you've never heard

  1191. somebody say that before, well that means this is probably

  1192. your first rodeo. That's probably not a good thing. So

  1193. you need to know that I love you. And there

  1194. is nothing you can ask me that I won't respond to.

  1195. Everyone here has my personal phone number. So if you're

  1196. catching this and you're afraid to come on or afraid

  1197. to talk with me, you can do so. Just send

  1198. me a message. Probably the easiest way is on Facebook

  1199. and you and I can talk. You don't have to

  1200. be recorded. I understand, I know where you're at. I'm

  1201. gonna say this. When I say it, it's going to

  1202. upset you, and you're going to wonder too. You're gonna

  1203. have to trouble sleeping tonight because you're just not gonna

  1204. understand how I know this. Look, I get it that

  1205. you don't know what's gonna happen, how you're gonna have

  1206. a funeral if you decide to leave the system. You

  1207. weren't expecting me to say that worried you're you're worried

  1208. about I'm not gonna mess you names, but you're worried

  1209. about your immediate family. How how you know they deserve

  1210. to have a funeral in a church, and if you

  1211. leave the system you could you don't know how you're

  1212. gonna have a funeral. Look, I don't need to tell

  1213. you this, but I do need to jog your memory.

  1214. Let the dead bury their own dead. Let that sink

  1215. in and believe me, I am well aware that this

  1216. is one of the number one ways that they keep

  1217. baby boomers and gen xers in their clutches. They threaten

  1218. them with this. If you leave our congregation, you can't

  1219. have funerals at our church for free. We'll charge you

  1220. ten thousand dollars. Thirty thousand dollars I've heard up to.

  1221. Don't worry about the dead, You need to worry about

  1222. the living. Me, by God, I can't die. And that's

  1223. a fact. Do you not know? Have you not heard?

  1224. We who are in the Family of Christ are going

  1225. to live forever. So don't worry about funerals. Don't worry

  1226. about funerals. The dead worry about funerals. Not the living.

  1227. But I'm telling you you need to get out of

  1228. the system. I know you've been in that system of

  1229. your whole life, but don't let them hold you over

  1230. the barrel of having funerals and weddings in their church.

  1231. I'm sorry if you weren't expecting me to say that,

  1232. and I'm sorry if you're confused because you don't know

  1233. how I know. The only thing I can say to

  1234. that is this, you'd be surprised at what I know.

  1235. And what I know above everything all the knowledge is

  1236. this that the Lord Jesus Christ came in the flesh,

  1237. and he did die, and by God he resurrected himself,

  1238. and he is God the Son. Everything else I know

  1239. is just extra. It's just extra. Until next time, ladies

  1240. and gentlemen, God bless, God speed.