Sermon
To the Church in Thyatira
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Hey, the first Friday of every month, that is this Friday.
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So if you are interested in joining a midweek gathering this Friday,
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! What time would we meet here?
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!
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This is the place that you want to be.
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Morning, everyone. Good morning. Good morning, Danny.
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What have you got there? What drink have you got?
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Coffee.
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Coffee, just straight coffee.
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There's fatigue. There's fatigue. I don't know if you're feeling it.
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There's fatigue. We had a first month of September,
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and then, of course, it's a holiday now. It's break.
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We have a few people who are away.
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But we're here, and I'm excited for today.
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I'm excited for what we're going to share.
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But as I said last week, we're going to keep repeating
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just so we remember some of the things that we're learning.
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We're starting this new season together,
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and we're saying, let's start with the end in mind.
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So let's go all the way to Revelation.
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If we're going to talk about church,
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let's go to see what Jesus says about the church, right?
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That's going to be the most important thing,
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because we don't want to start something that then, at the end,
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Zhao Zhou Yang, or he doesn't like, or he doesn't recognize.
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And we're like, oh, we've been doing church for 50 years, Jesus.
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And Jesus is like, that isn't my church.
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That doesn't look like my church.
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Turn around. Like, I don't want that.
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I want to start with the end in mind, right?
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And so he writes to the church, and he writes to seven churches,
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which represents the whole complete church.
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And the first church he writes to is Ephesus.
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And he says, you're doing all these good things.
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You're A star, but you're missing one thing.
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What are they missing, Godfrey?
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Love.
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They're missing love.
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That sofa looks so comfy, by the way.
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It just looks so good.
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You're missing love.
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You're doing all these great things for the community,
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yet you don't have love.
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Then because of that, I'm going to come and shut you down.
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That's what he says.
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Then the messenger keeps going up the coast,
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and he goes to the next place, which is Smyrna.
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Oh, good, guys.
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Smyrna.
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They have trouble coming.
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They're going to be thrown into prison.
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And he says, for 10 days, you'll be thrown into prison,
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and you'll be tested, and you will have tribulation.
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Be faithful unto death.
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What?
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There's no help coming.
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I'm not going to come and break you out of prison.
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I'm not going to stop you from going into prison.
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I'm going to give you something even more.
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If you are faithful unto death,
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I will give you the crown of life.
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You won't be hurt by the second death.
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We'll all die once.
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But the prayer is that we don't die twice.
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It's huge.
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And then he carries on going to the next city,
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which is the city of Pergamum.
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What was Pergamum's thing?
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Mark?
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Some of them were doing some things that weren't good.
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Questionable.
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Compromised.
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They were compromised.
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They were like, hey, we can be Christians,
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but then we can do all this other stuff on the side,
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and then we can have the best of both worlds.
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The problem is when you have the best of both worlds,
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you give up eternity.
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When you have the best of both worlds,
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you give up the true life.
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At the very end.
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And now we reach the church in Thyatira.
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Now this is different.
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Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum,
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these were like almost,
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these are the big cities.
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This was New York, London, Tokyo.
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Thyatira is kind of like this working class city,
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and it's a little bit different.
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But really the message time and time again,
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and actually this one has lots of overlap
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with the one from last week.
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Time and time again is what this is.
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Christians, you Christians,
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you have to be different.
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You just have to be different.
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You're built different.
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You look different.
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You sound different.
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The challenge though here is,
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we're trying to live in this world,
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and trying to make a living in this world,
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and trying to survive in this world,
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and often we're trying to reach people
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in the most relational way possible.
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I think I've literally said this myself.
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Hey, those Christians are no different to you guys.
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We're not weird.
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We're just as normal.
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We're just as cool.
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We try to be cool.
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Haven't you heard someone say that,
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or you want to say that?
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Oh, we're no different.
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We're okay.
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But the truth is,
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if you look at these letters,
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it seems to say,
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Paul's saying,
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sorry,
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Jesus is saying to the church,
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if you're a follower of me,
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you've got to be different in some way.
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You've got to be different.
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The question is,
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are we different?
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Are we different to any other group out there
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that's meeting
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because they have similar interests as well?
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Is our one just because we're interested
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in this guy called Jesus?
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We're interested in talking about him
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because he sounded like a good guy.
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Are we different?
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And so as we reach this letter,
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I want to ask you,
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ask the Lord,
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what is it that you want me to hear today?
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How do you want me to be different?
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Not abrasive,
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not rude,
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not obnoxious,
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not arrogant.
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How do you want me to be different?
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What does that look like?
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And so to read the word,
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I'm going to actually ask
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one of the deacons of our church,
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Tony,
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who's been a long, long, long,
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long standing member of our church.
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And Tony,
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just going to invite you up
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to come minister to us
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with the word of God.
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And then as I invite him up,
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can I invite you,
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can I invite us
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to stand for the word of the Lord?
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Can you use that mic?
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Yeah, okay.
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To the church,
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to the angel of the church
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in Thyatira write,
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these are the words
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of the Son of God
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whose eyes are like blazing fire
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and whose feet
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are like burnished bronze.
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I know your deeds,
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your love and faith,
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your service and perseverance,
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and that you are now doing more
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than you did at first.
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Nevertheless,
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I have this against you.
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You tolerate that woman,
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Jezebel,
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who calls herself a prophet.
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By her teaching,
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she misleads my servants
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into sexual immorality
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and the eating of food
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sacrificed to idols.
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I have given her time
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to repent of her immorality,
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but she is unwilling.
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So I will cast her
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on the bed of suffering,
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and I will make those
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who commit adultery with her
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suffer intensely,
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unless they repent of her ways.
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I will strike her children dead.
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Then all the churches will know
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that I am he
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who searches hearts and minds,
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and I will repay each of you
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according to your deeds.
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Now I say to the rest of you
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in Thyatira,
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to you who do not hold
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to her teaching
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and have not learned
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Satan's so-called
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deep secrets,
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I will not impose
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any other burden on you
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except to hold on
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to what you have
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until I come.
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To the one who is victorious
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and does my will to the end,
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I will give authority
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over the nations.
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That one will rule them
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and with an iron scepter
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and will dash them
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to pieces like pottery.
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Just as I have received
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authority from my Father,
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I will also give that one
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the morning star.
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Whoever has ears,
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let them hear
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what the Spirit
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says to the churches.
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This is the word of the Lord.
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Thank you, Tony.
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Please take a seat.
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And well done,
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everyone who's on a beanbag.
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Standing and sitting
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is no easy task.
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Thank you for doing that.
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Hey, you know,
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it's just one of those things
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that we're trying to do.
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I don't know about you,
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but I so often
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take for granted
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the word of the Lord.
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I'm like,
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oh, I've got to read my Bible.
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I've got to read this thing.
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Or like when someone
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reads it,
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you just glaze over
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or it just kind of
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goes in and out.
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Don't you have that?
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And I'm like,
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but if this is really
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what we say it is,
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if it really is as valuable
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to us,
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people die for this book.
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And then we treat it
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just kind of like,
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oh, I've got to read it.
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So, I mean,
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it can be frustrating
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sometimes needing
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to stand up and down,
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but I feel as though
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it helps me.
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I'm like, man,
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this is God,
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and he's here
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and he's speaking
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to us
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and I want to take heed
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what he has to say.
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This is the word of God.
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So, he's going to this church
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in Thyatira.
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I mean,
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we're in the fourth church now
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and it's kind of like,
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okay,
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there's a lot of things
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to be scared of
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out there, right?
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There's the devil
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who's throwing people
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into prison.
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There's people who are doing
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all the right things
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for all the wrong reasons
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and they're going to get
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shut down.
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So, if I'm the church
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in Thyatira,
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I'm like, okay,
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it's now our turn.
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What's going to happen?
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And he says
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to the angel of the church
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in Thyatira,
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write the words
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of the Son of God.
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He introduces himself
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as a big deal.
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I am the Son of God.
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Now, Thyatira was a city
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that actually worshipped
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lots of different kinds
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of gods
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and one of them
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was Apollo.
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Apollo, if you watch
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the film Troy,
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which I quoted last week,
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you can see a little bit
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of what that looks like.
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It was the God of the sun.
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It was the God of the sun,
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sunshine.
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Apollo was known
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in Greek mythology
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to be the son of Zeus.
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In fact,
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some people in the city
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would call Caesar
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the son of God,
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the son of Zeus.
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So, Jesus,
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seemingly knowing that
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and says,
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I'm writing to you,
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these are my words
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and guess who I am?
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I am the real son of God.
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You guys keep putting
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other people
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as the sons of God
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and sons of Zeus.
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Let me tell you who I am.
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I am the son of God
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whose eyes
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are like a flame
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of fire.
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He's quoting from
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Revelation 1
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when we introduce
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that picture of Jesus.
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Remember when I told you
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that Christina
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has eyes like fire?
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Yep, this is it.
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Jesus is like,
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hey,
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I am the son of God
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and I see right through you.
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I see through
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what you're doing.
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My eyes,
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my sight,
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my vision
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is purifying.
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It's cleansing.
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You can't hide anything
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from me.
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That's who he's talking,
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that's how he's introducing
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himself and he's like,
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whose feet are like
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burnished bronze.
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Kingdoms rise
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and kingdoms fall.
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Now it's the Romans.
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It used to be the Persians
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and it's the Syrians.
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Soon it will be the Americans
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and then it will be
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whatever kingdom,
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whatever nation,
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it doesn't matter.
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The kingdom of God,
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the other kingdoms
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rise and fall,
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the kingdom of God
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remains.
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Like feast,
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like burnished bronze.
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Purified,
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gone through the fire,
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steadfast.
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I'm the last one standing
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is what he's saying.
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I can see right through you
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and I'm the last one standing
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and I'm the son of God.
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So listen to my words.
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And then he says this.
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He says,
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I know you're,
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I actually like this.
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This is,
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these guys are doing a good job.
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They've got the fab five.
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I know your works,
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your love,
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your faith,
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your service
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and your patient endurance.
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That's pretty good.
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Right?
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The Ephesus church had it all
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but they didn't have love.
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These guys have love.
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Can you imagine
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just hearing this letter,
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the fourth one,
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as you're telling me,
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like,
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dude,
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we have love.
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Oh,
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it's all good.
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We've got love.
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And then it's even better.
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Then they say,
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and Jesus says,
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and your latter works
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are greater than your first.
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What does that mean?
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What do you think that means?
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It means they're growing.
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Like you started off like this
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and all the works
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you've got to hear
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and then it's growing
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and now your latter works
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are greater than your first.
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You are a growing church.
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Praise God,
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we are a growing church.
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We're figuring a lot of things out.
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This is our first week
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in trying a TV
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just to see those at the back.
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Was that better or not?
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Having,
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having,
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it was a little bit better.
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With that Spotify playlist.
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So if you still can't see the TVs,
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then the next best option
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is to download
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or get the Spotify playlist
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and learn all the songs
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off by heart
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and then you won't need the lyrics.
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We've actually got
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these sermons
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also on another
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Spotify podcast channel
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which we will share
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especially if you're
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in the gathering group.
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We're trying to figure things out.
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Last week,
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we were pretty full
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and I know it's flu season
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and praise God for Agnes.
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Where's Agnes?
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Is she here or is she busy?
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There's Agnes.
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Round of applause for Agnes
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and I'll tell you why.
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We were like,
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there's so many people here
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and everyone's like,
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because it's flu season
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and before you know it,
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we have seven
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air purifying machines
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dotted around the place
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with a sticker
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that says 99.9%
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COVID elimination.
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That's good.
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We're figuring things out.
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We're a growing church.
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We don't know what to do.
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Some people are still standing.
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We don't know.
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We're figuring
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all those things out
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and it's exciting.
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But let me tell you,
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as we're growing,
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here are the things on my heart.
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Do we have these things?
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If our works are getting more
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and I've had a few of you,
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actually,
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side reminder,
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if you filled out
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your prison ministry form
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and you haven't given it to me yet,
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please give it to me.
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Okay?
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My brother will be back next week
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because he's in the UK right now.
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Give it to me
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and we'll get that process started.
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Our works are growing.
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We've got fun things happening.
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But I pray as we're growing,
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we'll have the love of Thyatira
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that we would love God,
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that we don't love this space,
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that we don't love the view,
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that we don't love the songs,
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but we love God.
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We love His Word.
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We start to love His Word.
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Loving is hard.
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Anyone who's been married
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for any amount of time
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will tell you
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loving is hard
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requires effort.
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Learn how to love.
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Learn how to love Him.
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Learn how to love His Word.
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Learn how to love people.
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If you've been around
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human beings at all,
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you'll know human beings
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are hard to love.
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That's why it's a command.
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Love.
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Because it's not easy.
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It's not natural to love.
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I hope we grow in love
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as we grow.
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I hope we grow in faith.
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That we start to see,
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man,
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everything isn't quiet
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as it seems.
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This isn't just a service here.
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This isn't just a group
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of people gathering
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to make each other feel better.
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The thing they're gathering for
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is real.
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We can't see Him,
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but it's real.
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The battle outside is real.
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We have faith
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that the one who lives in us
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is greater than the one
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who lives in the world.
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I hope that we grow in faith.
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I also hope we grow in service.
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The prison ministry
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that whilst we gather,
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we also, what?
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Scatter.
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That we go out.
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That we go and meet people
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and introduce them
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to the gospel.
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I was just talking to a friend
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over lunch on Friday.
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I'm like,
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you know,
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we do so many church things.
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I come to church
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and I do this Bible study.
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I do this group.
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I do that group.
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But then when I'm at work,
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I don't talk about Jesus at all.
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Who does that?
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Who does all the church
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Christian stuff
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in church,
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but none of it outside?
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Right?
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Your colleagues don't know
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what you do on a Sunday.
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When you see them tomorrow morning,
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how was your weekend?
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Or you see them on Tuesday
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because it's public holiday.
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Woo!
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They were like,
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oh, what did you do this weekend?
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Oh, I did all this other stuff.
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But we don't talk about church.
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That's just like a side thing.
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How do we grow in service
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and reach and scatter
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to the people
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who actually need this good news?
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And to grow in patient endurance
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because it's not easy.
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To battle against all the things
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in this world is not easy.
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To live harmoniously here
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is not easy.
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Oh, I think someone pressed
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the fire door outside.
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Anyway.
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We are going to try
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and fight through that.
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As we're growing,
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do we have love?
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Do we have service?
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Do we have patience?
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Do we have the endurance
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it takes to get one?
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The church in Thyatira has it
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and I want to have it too.
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But,
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here's the big but.
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You guys are doing really well
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so that was really loud.
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But,
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you're doing all these
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good things, guys.
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You even have love.
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But,
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you tolerate
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that one person.
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That woman
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who calls herself
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a prophetess.
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Now,
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that woman's name
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isn't actually Jezebel.
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It's not actually Jezebel.
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But,
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of course,
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we know Jezebel
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to be the evil woman
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in the Old Testament
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who's married to King Ahab
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who causes the Israelites
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to all worship Baal.
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This woman.
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And he's saying,
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you tolerate this woman.
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You're not joining her,
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but you're tolerating her.
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There's someone
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in your midst
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who's teaching
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and seducing
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my servants
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to practice
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sexual immorality
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and to eat food
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sacrificed to idols.
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that's dangerous.
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The question is,
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do we have any
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of that compromise here?
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This is the same
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as last week
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to start with here.
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Are there compromises
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that you've made?
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Is there a woman here?
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Is there a man here?
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Is there an individual here
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who is teaching
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and seducing people
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astray?
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Now,
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actually,
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it wasn't even
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that
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malicious almost.
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You know what she was saying?
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Do you know the things
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that she was saying?
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Let me tell you a little bit
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about Thyatira.
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Thyatira was a working class
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kind of city.
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It had loads of trade guilds.
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So loads of associations
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of merchants
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and craftsmen
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and all these kinds of things.
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And one of the essentials
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of joining one of these
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trade guilds,
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if you want to kind of
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do any kind of business,
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now,
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Thyatira,
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Lydia,
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has anyone heard of Lydia
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in the Bible?
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Lydia was a businesswoman
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from Thyatira.
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She's mentioned
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in Acts 16.
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She's the woman
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who actually backs
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Paul in Philippi
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to start the first church
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in Europe.
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So she's from Thyatira
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and she was a woman,
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a businesswoman
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of purple cloth.
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And so Thyatira
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is filled with this
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kind of business here,
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filled with all these
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trade guilds.
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And the thing
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with these trade guilds
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was you have to attend
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all these dinners,
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all these banquets.
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You do all these things
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to kind of stay
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within the trade guild
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so you can be,
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you can have,
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you can network,
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you can have a community,
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you can have connections.
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And so this prophetess
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was basically just saying,
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hey,
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it's actually okay
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to go to those things.
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Christians,
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we are freed
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from slavery now.
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We can actually,
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we're free to go
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and go to all these banquets
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and these things.
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Now the problem was
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as you enter these things,
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so often these banquets
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and these events
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would descend into chaos,
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would descend
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into sexual immorality.
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But she was saying,
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hey,
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if we're saved by Christ,
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we can do whatever
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we need to do.
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Do whatever we need to do
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to stay ahead,
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to be part of society.
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That's what she's saying.
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And then Jesus is saying,
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and you tolerate her.
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The question is,
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what do we tolerate?
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And last week,
-
I asked you this question,
-
right?
-
I said,
-
like,
-
we're called to be in Hong Kong,
-
but what if Hong Kong
-
has seeped into our church?
-
What if Hong Kong,
-
what if the city
-
has seeped into the church?
-
What banquets
-
do you have to go to
-
for your work?
-
I don't know,
-
finance guys.
-
Finance is
-
the big thing
-
here in Hong Kong.
-
What are the things
-
that you have to do
-
to go to
-
to keep your career going,
-
to expand your business empire?
-
Whether you go out
-
for dinners with clients
-
and it descends
-
into something else
-
that you know
-
is going there,
-
but you're like,
-
and you reason to yourself,
-
oh,
-
it's okay.
-
It's the same thing
-
I said last week,
-
going to a party
-
to help your friends
-
who are getting drunk
-
to look after them.
-
What are the things
-
that you're justifying
-
if you're a finance guy,
-
if you're in real estate
-
and you have to
-
take these meetings
-
that go late into the night
-
that there's lots
-
of alcohol involved.
-
What are you thinking here?
-
What's your thought process here?
-
Is there any area
-
of compromise
-
that we have in our lives
-
that we have
-
in our friendship groups?
-
I want to keep
-
this group of friends,
-
but I know
-
this group of friends
-
has to go
-
and do this kind of stuff.
-
and you're like,
-
oh,
-
but it's okay.
-
It's okay.
-
That's the compromise.
-
What about those
-
in the entertainment industry?
-
Those who are influencers,
-
those who are online.
-
What do you have to do?
-
What are the things
-
that you have to do
-
to kind of like,
-
man,
-
if I don't go to that,
-
I'll be ignored,
-
right?
-
If I don't play ball
-
in this,
-
then I won't
-
get my career going.
-
In church,
-
if you're a newcomer here
-
and you don't know
-
anything about Jesus,
-
we welcome you.
-
We're not weird.
-
We're no different.
-
But we are
-
also very different
-
because we believe
-
there's something
-
outside of this world.
-
We welcome you
-
and we want you
-
to see what it is.
-
But we also need
-
to know that
-
we're trying not
-
to compromise it.
-
Maybe it's not
-
even compromise.
-
Here's a dangerous
-
word that I want
-
to post to you.
-
Guys are particularly
-
good at this.
-
Compartmentalize.
-
I was talking
-
to a good friend
-
of mine who's
-
the managing director
-
of a big consulting firm
-
and I was like,
-
hey,
-
you're a Christian.
-
Why has God
-
put you where you are
-
and what does that
-
look like?
-
What does your faith
-
and your work look like?
-
Do you know what he said?
-
He's like,
-
oh, actually,
-
they're two separate things.
-
There's just two departments
-
that I'm trying to,
-
I mean,
-
typical consultant language.
-
There's just two different areas
-
that I need to kind of,
-
oh,
-
oh,
-
that's interesting.
-
I'm not where you are
-
so I don't dare say
-
how I would react
-
and do that,
-
but something tells me
-
that this book
-
doesn't want us
-
to compartmentalize.
-
That Jesus is either
-
your Lord
-
or he's not.
-
But are there certain things
-
that we compartmentalize
-
and the easiest one is,
-
hey,
-
on a Sunday morning,
-
I am good.
-
I come to church,
-
I'm good,
-
I'm tired
-
because on Saturday night
-
I stayed really late
-
and I got home really late.
-
So we compartmentalize
-
certain parts of our week
-
into being for Jesus
-
and the rest of the time
-
is whatever.
-
Do you compromise
-
and do you compartmentalize?
-
Jesus wants us to,
-
Jesus wants all of us.
-
He doesn't say,
-
love me with your mind,
-
soul,
-
heart.
-
He says,
-
love me with all
-
of your heart,
-
soul,
-
mind,
-
and strength.
-
Do we compromise
-
and do we compartmentalize?
-
Are there parties
-
that you have to go to?
-
Are there things
-
that you have to do
-
in order to be accepted
-
to get where you want?
-
Who's watched
-
Chariots of Fire?
-
That's a really old film.
-
I think the older people
-
are like,
-
oh,
-
yep,
-
that was me.
-
Watch it.
-
It's about a guy
-
who doesn't compromise.
-
It's about a guy
-
who is a sprinter
-
but doesn't want to sprint
-
on a Sunday
-
because that's God's day
-
and everyone's just outraged.
-
Outraged.
-
Why would you not do it
-
on a Sunday?
-
Just do it.
-
Do church on another day.
-
There's reasons
-
for everything, right?
-
Now,
-
of course,
-
there's some jobs.
-
There's some,
-
like,
-
you have to go to work
-
on a Sunday.
-
I get it.
-
Erica,
-
don't not show up
-
to work on a Sunday.
-
She's a doctor.
-
Like,
-
that's not good.
-
I know Trevor has to go to work.
-
Like,
-
there are some jobs
-
you can't,
-
but there are other things
-
that are kind of like,
-
we reason, right?
-
Oh,
-
it's okay.
-
We can,
-
we can,
-
I guess,
-
Sunday used to be church,
-
but we can do that instead
-
and we'll wake it up somehow.
-
You know what?
-
We'll watch it online.
-
We'll watch church online
-
so we can go and,
-
we can go and do what we do.
-
Little things,
-
little things
-
that we let through the door,
-
little things
-
that sound reasonable
-
and that's all it takes.
-
Church,
-
I want us to grow,
-
but I want us to grow
-
in love,
-
faith,
-
patient endurance
-
and service,
-
but also not to compromise,
-
to not make things
-
so seeker sensitive
-
that we become
-
sin sensitive.
-
If you're a seeking here,
-
we welcome you,
-
but we also can't tolerate
-
when there are things
-
that are in our lives
-
that are destroying us,
-
consuming us,
-
corrupting us.
-
If we truly loved you,
-
we wouldn't,
-
we can't just stand by
-
and let you do it.
-
Oh,
-
because we're a tolerant society.
-
No,
-
tolerance isn't a spirit,
-
fruit of the spirit.
-
Love is,
-
grace is.
-
And this is the hardest line
-
because society out there
-
has so many things
-
that are challenging.
-
Go,
-
hey,
-
what do you guys think about this?
-
What do you guys think about that?
-
Would you let that kind of person in?
-
Christina and I finally got around
-
to watching the Jesus Revolution film.
-
Has anyone watched that?
-
It's on Netflix now.
-
It's about the kind of
-
the Jesus hippie movement
-
from the 70s.
-
Pretty cool.
-
It's actually a really well done movie
-
and it's not your typical
-
cliche,
-
cheesy Christian movie.
-
Worth a watch.
-
And of course,
-
there's loads of flaws
-
and actually they do highlight
-
some of those things there as well.
-
It's on Netflix.
-
But one thing is basically
-
there was a church,
-
a small church
-
filled with the kind of
-
typical people
-
that you'd expect to be in church
-
in the 70s in America.
-
And then suddenly,
-
like,
-
they start inviting hippies in.
-
And you can imagine
-
the tension there.
-
And then the pastor says
-
this one thing that I love.
-
He says,
-
how can we close our doors to them?
-
How?
-
If you look at the Bible,
-
the essence of the faith
-
is that we welcome anyone.
-
Jesus himself
-
hung out with people.
-
Actually,
-
the most disputed thing
-
about Jesus
-
is who he shared the table with,
-
who he ate dinner with.
-
Why did you eat with them people?
-
Why did you eat with these people?
-
And the guy in the book says,
-
the essence of the faith
-
is that
-
these people are welcomed in.
-
But there's a difference
-
between welcome
-
and accepting.
-
I'm trying to find this line.
-
I want to welcome
-
every single person in.
-
And you come
-
just as you are.
-
That's what God says.
-
You come
-
but he loves you enough
-
to not keep you
-
where you are.
-
Right?
-
I can welcome you
-
but I don't necessarily
-
need to accept
-
what you're doing.
-
You guys help me
-
and God help us
-
find that line.
-
Jesus does this so well.
-
Have you read Jesus' stuff?
-
Have you read his sermon?
-
Jesus says,
-
the law says
-
if you commit adultery,
-
you can't do that.
-
That's not good.
-
And then Jesus says,
-
the law says this
-
but what I'll say is this.
-
If you look at someone,
-
you better cut your eye out.
-
He sees the law
-
and then he like ups it
-
each time.
-
But haven't you found it fascinating
-
that each time he does that
-
yet the lowest,
-
the worst of the sinners
-
keep coming to him?
-
I don't know how he does it.
-
I really don't know
-
how he does it.
-
But that comes back to
-
bring them to me.
-
Bring them to me.
-
So they even just reminded me
-
just now.
-
That's what the Lord wants.
-
As a church,
-
we are pointing people
-
to him.
-
I'm like,
-
I don't know what to do
-
with your situation.
-
I don't know
-
whether Jesus likes it.
-
Well actually,
-
there's some things
-
I know that Jesus
-
doesn't like that.
-
There are other things
-
I'm like,
-
I don't know.
-
Come to us.
-
Be with us.
-
We welcome you
-
and go to him
-
and let him be the one
-
that tells you the truth.
-
Let him be the one
-
that delivers the truth
-
with grace and love
-
because I can't do it.
-
Not to the level
-
that he can.
-
That's why Jesus says,
-
bring them to me
-
and I'll do it.
-
But you as a body,
-
welcome.
-
You don't have to accept
-
but welcome.
-
But don't tolerate.
-
It was harsh for these guys
-
because actually
-
they weren't doing anything.
-
They were just tolerating.
-
They weren't joining in necessarily.
-
And yet Jesus says,
-
that's the problem
-
because when you have a group
-
and I pointed at that couch
-
last week,
-
maybe it's this couch.
-
Maybe it's just you two.
-
Maybe it's just Sonny and Godfrey.
-
You're teaching us
-
how to compartmentalize,
-
how to compromise
-
and you start telling people,
-
hey actually,
-
it's okay.
-
It's okay to do this
-
and then you can do this.
-
It's okay to be there
-
and then you'll be there.
-
Jesus is saying,
-
that's dangerous
-
because that kind of just
-
seeps through
-
to everywhere else.
-
That's the danger.
-
It's interesting,
-
he says this.
-
He says,
-
to the rest of you,
-
so that's the naughty corner,
-
but to the rest of you,
-
sorry guys,
-
I'll come and give you
-
a hug later.
-
It's just the couch.
-
I'm just jealous of that couch.
-
To the rest of you,
-
you have not held
-
to this teaching
-
and you have not learned
-
the so-called
-
deep things of Satan.
-
What's that?
-
Can you see that?
-
Can you read that there?
-
What a strange way to put it.
-
Jesus does a little like
-
so-called.
-
Verse 24,
-
but to the rest of you
-
in Thyatira
-
who do not hold
-
this teaching,
-
who have not learned
-
what some call
-
the deep things of Satan.
-
there were some people,
-
some people
-
sat in that corner
-
over there
-
who were telling people,
-
hey,
-
we've actually got
-
a secret thing.
-
We actually,
-
we've got a secret revelation.
-
We know more now.
-
Do you know what we found out?
-
That the body
-
and the soul
-
are separate,
-
which means
-
if you've accepted Jesus
-
and you believe in him,
-
your soul's going to be saved
-
and your body,
-
you can do whatever
-
you want with.
-
There's a rising group
-
of people,
-
they were called
-
the Gnostics
-
at the time
-
who were professing
-
to have this special
-
realization
-
of the spiritual things.
-
Saying,
-
oh,
-
in the spiritual realm
-
that's okay
-
and in the physical realm
-
this is okay.
-
So that's why
-
Jesus was kind of doing
-
the air quits,
-
the so-called
-
deep things of Satan.
-
There was another group
-
that was saying,
-
hey,
-
do you know how you conquer
-
the things of Satan?
-
Go do them.
-
That was the,
-
hey,
-
do you know how to
-
stick it to Satan?
-
Go do the things
-
that he wants you to do.
-
That was literally
-
the reasoning.
-
It's like,
-
if you do them,
-
if you go deeper
-
into sin,
-
then you will experience
-
grace to a deeper level.
-
Have you done that?
-
Have you convinced
-
yourself of that?
-
When you're in a place
-
where you're just
-
in self-pity mode,
-
that's it,
-
I'm,
-
I suck at this
-
Christian stuff this week,
-
I'm just going to go
-
deeper in.
-
I don't know,
-
God will save me
-
at some point.
-
To the rest of you
-
who haven't,
-
Jesus is saying,
-
to the rest of you,
-
hold fast till I come.
-
Hang in there
-
is what he's saying.
-
He also says
-
something interesting.
-
If we just rewind
-
a little bit,
-
I found this is
-
pretty cool.
-
He says,
-
verse 21,
-
he's talking about
-
Jezebel,
-
who's the one
-
who's leading
-
all of this,
-
and then he says,
-
I gave her time
-
to repent.
-
Isn't that cool?
-
The worst of them,
-
the one who's leading
-
everyone astray,
-
seducing everyone.
-
Well,
-
he's trying to,
-
Jesus is saying,
-
I gave her time
-
to repent.
-
He's not hasty
-
with his judgment.
-
I don't know
-
whether you feel
-
like the sheep
-
being led astray
-
by the prophetess,
-
or you feel like
-
the prophetess
-
who's actually doing
-
the leading.
-
This is saying,
-
however deep
-
your sin is,
-
it doesn't matter.
-
Jesus still gives you
-
time to repent.
-
Even if you are
-
Jezebel,
-
no one should name
-
their daughter Jezebel.
-
It's not a name
-
to give
-
if you're having
-
a daughter anytime soon,
-
or a son,
-
but that's for
-
different reasons.
-
Don't,
-
no one likes
-
this name Jezebel.
-
This prophetess,
-
this evil queen,
-
some describe her
-
to be the most
-
evil woman
-
in the history
-
of mankind.
-
And yet,
-
Jesus says,
-
I gave her time
-
to repent.
-
Just to give you
-
a glimpse
-
of what Jesus
-
is like.
-
He's fierce,
-
his eyes
-
are like fire.
-
Can you imagine
-
that?
-
He's piercing
-
through to the
-
very depths
-
of your soul,
-
knows all
-
of your sin,
-
yet in that
-
moment,
-
he still gives
-
you time
-
to repent.
-
That's who
-
Jesus is.
-
But then he
-
says,
-
but she did not
-
repent of her
-
sexual immorality.
-
Behold,
-
I will throw her
-
onto a sickbed.
-
That's a bit
-
of a strange
-
thing to say.
-
But really,
-
it's tied into
-
the saying of,
-
actually,
-
you make your
-
own bed.
-
Have you heard
-
that saying
-
before?
-
You make
-
your own bed.
-
You suffer
-
the consequences
-
of your own
-
sin.
-
And this
-
prophetess,
-
who's teaching
-
people to commit
-
adultery,
-
often done on
-
a bed,
-
he's saying,
-
I will throw
-
her onto a
-
sickbed.
-
I will let
-
her,
-
I will leave
-
her to her
-
own devices,
-
and she will
-
suffer the
-
consequences
-
that she
-
deserves.
-
she's made
-
her own
-
bed.
-
So often,
-
we think about
-
Christianity as
-
these are the
-
things that we're
-
not allowed to
-
do.
-
Oh,
-
we're dating,
-
but we're not
-
allowed to have
-
sex before
-
marriage.
-
Hey,
-
we're doing
-
this,
-
but we're not
-
allowed to go
-
to that party.
-
We're not
-
allowed to do
-
this,
-
we're not
-
allowed to
-
do that.
-
And yeah,
-
those are
-
things,
-
but what are
-
they there for?
-
Why do I tell
-
my children that
-
they are not
-
allowed to play
-
with the
-
firehop in
-
the kitchen?
-
Because it'll
-
hurt them.
-
Until we
-
realize that
-
actually Jesus
-
is for our
-
good,
-
he gives us
-
time to
-
repent,
-
even if he
-
sees the
-
very depths
-
of our
-
soul.
-
What he
-
doesn't want
-
is for us
-
to suffer the
-
consequences of
-
our own
-
sin.
-
Because every
-
time a couple
-
decides to
-
give in to
-
the temptations
-
and to give
-
in to the
-
insecurities,
-
when a couple
-
decides,
-
okay,
-
if I don't
-
do this with
-
this person,
-
I'm not going
-
to keep them.
-
I'm going to
-
lose them.
-
That insecurity,
-
after it's done,
-
is that insecurity
-
gone?
-
Not.
-
It just
-
worsens.
-
It just gets
-
worse.
-
The sins that
-
we have that
-
keep us captive
-
are actually
-
things that are
-
destroying us.
-
That's why Jesus
-
is so harsh on
-
them.
-
Not because he's
-
harsh about the
-
actual things,
-
but because he
-
loves you and
-
I so much
-
that he's like,
-
don't do them.
-
Don't do them.
-
Those consequences
-
are so painful.
-
Every time you
-
give in,
-
every time you
-
compromise,
-
you know it
-
doesn't help.
-
You know it
-
doesn't get
-
better.
-
And I just
-
need to quickly
-
address this.
-
Verse 23,
-
and I will
-
strike her
-
children dead.
-
That's as
-
harsh as it
-
gets.
-
But what he's
-
saying here is
-
there are people
-
that she's
-
teaching and
-
following.
-
There are her
-
disciples.
-
There are her
-
spiritual kids.
-
There are people
-
who follow her
-
way.
-
They will be
-
removed.
-
They will be
-
gone.
-
The body of
-
Christ cannot
-
tolerate these
-
things.
-
Bring them to
-
me.
-
Let me confront
-
them.
-
And only hold
-
fast till the
-
end.
-
And keep my
-
works or keep
-
my will till
-
the end.
-
Hold fast.
-
That's like a
-
battle.
-
I was talking to
-
someone about this
-
recently.
-
I was like,
-
life is just
-
filled with
-
battles.
-
Does your
-
life feel like
-
an uphill
-
battle?
-
What are we
-
facing here?
-
What are the
-
battles that we
-
face in society
-
here?
-
Let me ask some
-
questions here.
-
What are the
-
battles that we
-
face in society?
-
What do you
-
think?
-
Trevor, what do
-
you got?
-
Lust.
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That's an
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uphill battle.
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There's a book
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called Every
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Man's Battle.
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But of course,
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lust isn't just
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unique to men
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either.
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It's to women.
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For women.
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It's for all of
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us.
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And it's not
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lusting even
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just physically
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for other human
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beings.
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It's lusting all
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kinds of things.
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Lust is a huge
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one.
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What other
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battles do we
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face?
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Paul, what
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battles do
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you face?
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Greed.
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Greed.
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Always wanting
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more and always
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needing more.
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I said a couple
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of weeks ago,
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one of my
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friends who
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knows super
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wealthy people,
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and he says,
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it's really
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funny.
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The more
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wealthy they
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are, the
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more poor
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they feel.
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They genuinely
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feel I need
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more.
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Lust.
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Greed.
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What are the
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other things?
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What have we
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got?
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Tony, you
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got anything
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for us?
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What are we
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battling in
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this society?
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Success.
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Success.
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Needing to
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feel like we've
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achieved having
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X amount of
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followers on
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IG and
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likes that
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come with
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it or the
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job title
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that we
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need.
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Those are the
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battles.
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There's this
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interesting battle
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that I watched
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in a video by
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the Bible
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project.
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There's this
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battle going
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on between the
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garden and
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the city.
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The values and
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the principles of
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the garden,
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the garden of
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Eden, the way
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that God
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created the
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garden to be,
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one of peace
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and tranquility
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and prosperity,
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filled with
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everything.
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That's what we
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were supposed
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to have.
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Yet, as you
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see in the
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Old Testament,
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you start seeing
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these cities
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come.
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That's where you
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get the Tower
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of Babel and
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you get all
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these Sodom and
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Gomorrah and
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all these things.
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The values of
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the city that
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are pitched
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against the
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values of the
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garden.
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That's a battle
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right there that's
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happening for
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our souls.
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Our souls yearn
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to be in the
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garden.
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Psalm 23,
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that we lie
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by still waters.
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Yet, we're
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filled with the
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city of cities
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where the
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battle is just
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constantly, the
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battle of
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success, the
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battle of
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busyness.
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Hong Kong is
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nuts now.
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Of course, there's
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the whole wanting
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to get the
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nightlife and the
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night markets and
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all those things,
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which are quite
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fun as well.
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But, the
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battle of
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busyness,
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success, lust,
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greed.
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The battle of
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excessiveness.
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Between the
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garden and the
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city, between the
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flesh and the
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spirit.
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Romans 8 talks
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about that
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battle.
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Romans 7 talks
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about the battle
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that Paul has
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within it.
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He's saying,
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man, I want
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to do this.
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The things I
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know I
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shouldn't do, I
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want to do.
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And those are
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things I know I
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should do, I
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don't want to do
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at all.
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He's got a
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constant battle
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within.
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And then it's
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an uphill one.
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But then what's
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Jesus' comfort?
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What's Jesus'
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encouragement?
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And this is where
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he finishes.
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In the midst of
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that battle,
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whatever battle
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it is that you
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are facing right
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now, Jesus
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says, the one
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who conquers and
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who keeps my
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works until the
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end, to him I
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will give
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authority over
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the nations, and
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he will rule
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them with a
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rod of iron as
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when earthen
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pots are broken
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in pieces, even
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as I myself have
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received authority
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from my father.
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The ESV version is
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a little bit hard
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to understand.
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What he's saying
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here is, to the
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one who conquers, to
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the one who keeps
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my will, I will
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give him authority.
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He will win.
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He will win all
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of those battles.
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He will win like a
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shepherd who is
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holding a rod and
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has the authority.
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Why?
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Because the
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father gives
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authority.
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That's what he's
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saying.
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The father gives
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you authority to
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win that battle, not
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because you will win
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it, but because Jesus
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already has.
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To the one who
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holds fast to the
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end, to the one who
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conquers and keeps my
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works until the end,
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you will win.
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I want you to have a
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little thought exercise
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right now.
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The battle that you're
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going through, and I
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was just talking about
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this with a good friend
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over breakfast, who
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feels as though when
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he's going to work, he's
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just going into the
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battle ring.
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Like, every time, I'm
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just ready to fight.
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I've got to fight
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something, I've got to
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fight someone.
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Imagine for a second
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how you would approach
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that if you truly
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believed that Jesus
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has already won.
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Just imagine with me
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for a second, whatever
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battle it is that you're
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facing, whether it's one
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of lust, whether it's
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one with greed, whether
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it's one with success,
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whether it's one with
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busyness, approval,
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whatever it might be,
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imagine with me for a
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second, whatever arena
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that you're battling in,
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whether it's finance,
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entertainment, education,
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health care, whatever it
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is, imagine if the
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truth of Jesus' victory
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actually rung true in
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your ring.
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imagine if Jesus himself
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is in that ring.
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how would that change the
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way you live?
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How would that change the
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way you fight?
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Would it?
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It should.
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And we were just talking
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about that.
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We were like, if we're
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battling in the ring, in a
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battle that has already
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been won, that means, and
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Jesus is in the ring with
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you, so he won't let anything
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happen to you, the one who
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conquers won't be hurt by
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the second death, then it
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changes the way you fight.
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Do you know what it means?
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It means you can turn the
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other cheek.
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It means you can take
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punches and hits from the
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people that you're fighting
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with, because you know that
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the one who conquers and
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keeps his works until the
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end, he will give authority
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over the nations.
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He will give you victory.
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Imagine, in your arena,
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Jesus who won is stood there
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right with you.
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That changes everything.
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Right?
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That's what he's saying here.
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It means that if you're
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competing against a colleague
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to win a project in your
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company, and the colleague
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is using dirty tactics, you
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don't have to worry, because
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if Jesus wants you to win
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that project, he will win it
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for you, so you don't have to
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compete in the same way.
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When you have a friend who's
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slandering you and saying
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things that aren't true about
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you, you don't have to worry
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what everyone else thinks or
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whether you'll lose your status
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in the friendship group,
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because Jesus is in that
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ring, is in that friendship
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ring with you.
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So that changes everything.
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You can turn the other cheek.
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You don't have to feel
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offended.
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Because Jesus is there with
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you, and he took on the
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ultimate offense for you, so
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you won't have to feel
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offended.
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Changes the way we fight,
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brothers and sisters.
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This battle that we have,
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when you know that the
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battle is won, the way you
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fight it is completely
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different.
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You fight by holding fast to
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what you have until the end,
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knowing that that promise is
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coming.
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And then he says at the end,
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and this is where I'll finish,
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and I will give him the
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morning star.
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I'm not an astrophysicist
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here, but actually the
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morning star is the one in
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Revelation 22, when Jesus
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introduces himself as the
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bright morning star.
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The ancient Christian
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astronomers would say that
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the morning star would be the
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one that comes at the
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darkest part of the night,
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which apparently is 2, 3 a.m.
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When the night is just as
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dark as it can be, the
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morning star, as faint as it
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can be, pops up.
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And do you know what that
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little morning star does from
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that moment on?
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Because that's the darkest
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point of the night.
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From that moment on, the sun
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follows.
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That morning star pulls in the
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morning.
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Morning is broken because of
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that morning star.
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We now know that star to
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actually, the one that the
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Christian astronomers back
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then to be looking at is
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actually Venus.
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What's interesting is after
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Venus shows up in our sight,
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shortly after the sun shows up,
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and that's how each day goes
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around.
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Jesus says, I am the morning
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star.
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I am the one that will usher in
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the light.
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I am the one that comes at the
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moment when it is the darkest,
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and I am the one that gives
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hope.
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When you are in your ring, and
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you are battling, and you are
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on the ground, and you've been
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KO'd because someone slapped you
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hard, because people all around
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you, you have a target on your
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back.
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When you think it's the darkest,
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in that moment, Jesus says, and I
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will give them the morning star.
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I will give them myself.
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I will enter the ring.
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I will introduce myself already in
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the ring, and the victory will be
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yours.
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Imagine if we held that truth going
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into our work on Tuesday morning.
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Imagine if we held that truth going
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into our socializing this weekend,
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that there are some things that we
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don't have to strive for, that we
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don't have to battle for.
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It's off our shoulders.
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The victory is his.
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Imagine that, just for a second.
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The morning star pulls in the
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morning in behind it, just like
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Jesus pulls in the kingdom of
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heaven just behind him.
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That's what he promises us.
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He who has ears, let him hear what
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the Spirit says to the churches.
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Let those of us who have an ear to
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hear what is being said right now
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from this word, let us take heed to
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that.
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The victory is won.
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The victory is his.
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If you sum up that whole book of
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Revelation, that confusing book
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filled with imagery, it's simple.
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Jesus wins.
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And because of that, we win too.
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So every battle we face is no longer
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the same battle that we think we're
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fighting.
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Can I ask you to continue to imagine
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that?
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What that looks like for you as you
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face your battles?
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If I can finish with an encouragement,
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an exhortation, that is when you leave
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this place and you go back to the
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battle that you're facing, whatever it
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is, the battle that is within you or the
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battle that is in front of you, can you
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have that victory deep in your heart and
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soul?
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That's what Jesus is trying to instill in the
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church in Thyatira.
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And I think it's the thing that he wants us to
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hold on to until the end.
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I'm going to invite Paul now to come up and we're
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going to have a short time of response.
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Again, just to sing this song.
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When we sing songs, this isn't the only way we
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worship.
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You guys have been worshiping simply by
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listening to this word and just asking God to
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speak to you.
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You guys are worshiping by being here.
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You guys are worshiping later if you have
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lunch, whether it's here or with anyone else.
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Worship is everywhere.
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Don't compartmentalize.
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You can worship him anywhere.
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He doesn't need us to worship him either.
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The rocks outside would cry out and worship him
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if we don't.
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But as we sing now, worship music worship, I
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often call, is a low-hanging fruit.
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It's an easy way to do it because it's hard
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sometimes to worship when you're in your
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workplace, in the ring, fighting your
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colleagues.
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So worship with us here.
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Worship him here.
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And I pray that it will fill you with the
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kind of faith that the church in Thyatira
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had as they face their trade guilds.
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May we face our life here with that same
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faith that the victory is his.
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Can I invite you to stand?