S3 E8: Hot Wings & Hot Takes 🔥🍗 (hello 135,600 Scovilles 👀)

What's up, guys? I don't even know how to start this. We're so

excited to be back for another fun filled episode of the Fielder

podcast. And Zur, how are you feeling about this episode?

I'm ready. I'm so ready. I'm looking at this. I actually didn't

eat breakfast this morning, so I'm hungry.

I had some protein cereal, you know, just a little something to

hold me over. But in case you didn't see, we're actually doing

a Hot Wings and Hot Takes special episode for you guys. And

so we're going to be having some hot sauce. We have four flavors

in increasing Scoville units. And so we're going to start with

some mild, less spicy questions called with this mild wing.

And then we have hot honey. And then we have a mango habanero.

And then we have the Deathwing, which is featured by our

surprise guest, the Bomb Beyond Insanity, available at an

Amazon near you if you choose. Death by a thousand Scovilles. Actually,

more than that. 135,600 Scoville units. So we'll end with

that bad boy, but for now, we're just going to start. So do

you want to go first? You want to ask a question first, or do you

want me to, too?

What do you want?

Okay, I'll ask a question.

All right.

I want. I want to. I think. I think I'll. I'll need this. Okay,

so you'll have to eat the wing. I say, what is the.

What is the protocol here?

We're gonna have to eat the wing regardless.

Like, and so we eat the wing first.

And then you answer the question.

Then I answer the question.

Because I think, like, having the spiciness in your mouth will

probably make you look. Be a little more honest. Not that you

would be dishonest, honestly, but. Okay, I'm just gonna. I'm gonna

start with, like. Let's. Let's try this one.

Go ahead.

What is one cultural issue that the church is too silent about

or too loud about?

Too silent or too loud?

And this is just your personal opinion?

Well, first off, let me just look at that. Oh, you see, that's

some ranch, if you need it.

And we do have some additional things. I think this one will be

fine.

Thank you, Jesus. This fantastic food. All right, one thing.

All right, I'm gonna just. I'm gonna bring you back.

I'm ready.

Four months when I was the online pastor. How about that? I

think one of the things I was. As we were getting ready, I was thinking

of digital Formation. So I've been reading through, practicing

the way John Mark Comer and he talks about. It's not that we're,

you know, like, you know, we ask the question, am I being formed?

The reality is you're being formed.

Yes.

And in. In the church, we often talk about Bible study and

community and prayer as practical ways of in which we're

being formed. But we don't actually talk often about how we're

being digitally formed. And like, more specifically, you know,

we'll. We'll talk about, like, let's get some sermons on there.

Let's get some, you know, you know, some biblical teaching. Worship

music. Worship music, which is great things. But we don't often

talk about how we actually informed by the things that we need

to subtract from our lives. You know, we don't actually counsel

people like, hey, you shouldn't be maybe following this

kind of thing. Yeah. Or how long you're consuming or things like

that. Like, I think it's not talked enough about how we're being

digitally formed. So.

That's a great answer. A really great answer.

All right, are you ready? No, I'm. I'm enjoying this. Here we go.

Be ready for this one. Okay, wait, wait. Some background lore.

How do you do with spice normally?

Oh, I love spice.

You love spice. Like. Like.

I mean, I don't go for, like, the spiciest thing. I'll usually

go, like, one below, you.

Know, so below the spiciest. So, like Thai medium.

So if I'm at, like, a Thai restaurant and it's like one to five,

I'll get a four. Or if we're at Dave's Hot Chicken, I won't get

the spiciest. I'll get hot.

Okay.

How do you tell someone that they're being too harsh or too judgmental

when trying to exhort their friends.

Dang. This is a great question. Okay, let me take. This

is what I would order. So this is great.

Wow.

This. I was like, the disappointment in that.

I'm enjoying this.

This is good. Hold on, let me not smack in the mic.

It's asmr. This is a mukbang. Yeah.

How would I tell them? I mean, I think there's a fine line between

exhortation and just being unloving. And I think I feel like

I see this more often with, like, people that have been believers,

like, for decades and people that are, like, baby believers. Ish.

And also people that, like, that find themselves to, like, be

teachers. Like, they believe that they have the, like, the spiritual

gift of teaching?

Sure.

I feel like sometimes they just. I think you just have to filter

it through the lens of, like, how can I love this person? And I

think a lot of times the excuse can be like, well, I just

care about them so much, or, I love them so much, or, I love this

so much. I care so much. That's why I'm being so aggressive

about it. But the reality is, like, if you, number one, if you

don't have that relational equity with that person, they're

probably not going to receive it in the heart that you intended.

But also, like, is your heart posture for them to agree with you

or for them to do what you're asking? Or is your heart posture

for them to trust their own relationship with the Holy Spirit

and with the Lord and, like, trust their own discernment? Like,

hey, this is how I would view that action, but I'm challenging

you to pray about it or, like, you know, read scripture about that

thing. And. And I think I was like, I haven't. I've been a believer

for, like, maybe five years. And I think that was something that

I learned relatively quickly in community is like, whoa, there's

some people that are, like, really, really passionate about what

I do with my life, which is. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense

to me. Like, I'm like, why? But I think. I think it can come

between a place of, like, I love you, and I want to, like, I

want to hold you to a higher standard, or I want to challenge

you to, like, walk in a manner worthy of your calling, which is

scriptural. But I think if your posture is, like, they need

to agree with me. They need to do what I say. I'm right on this.

And you're unwilling to be wrong. Because in reality, like,

a lot of times when we exhort friends or people, like, it's not

black and white things like, Jesus is lord of your life. Like,

Lord and Savior. The only way to the Father is through Jesus. You

know, like, it's normally not on those things. It's like, should

I take a weekend trip with a group that includes guys, or should

I, you know, like, post these specific type of thirst traps on

my Instagram? You know, like, it's like, things like that normally.

And so I'm like, I just think your posture needs to be that they

seek the Lord and that you also be humble enough to admit, maybe

my heart is wrong in this. So that would be my challenge.

That's good.

I don't know if I answered the question.

No, I thought, okay, okay, that was good.

I'm gonna take a nut bite. This is pretty buzzing.

Yeah. Okay, but the next one's supposed to be hotter.

Yeah.

All right, I'm ready.

It's hot honey.

Okay, that just sounds contradictory to me.

Hot honey, like, it's.

Honey is sweet. I mean, it's not contradictory, but it's.

Like a soothing balm to the hot.

Okay, let's go. It's so. It's so cute. Your best.

Okay. Do you feel like we're too soft on people in our episodes?

Oh, dang. All right, let. Let's just. Let's take a little bit.

Actually, I shouldn't have dipped this, bro. I want the full

take.

Another one. We have four.

I'm going to eat it from the other side. Look at that. I need

to taste the flavor before I. Okay, okay.

I'm going to have a breath.

That's good. Okay. Are we too soft or are we too hard? What was

the question? Soft. Soft.

I feel like I've heard that. Not to my face. Whatever it is.

I feel like we try to play a really good middle ground with people.

Balance.

Balance, yes.

Yes.

Because we recognize that there's a wide range of people that

listen to our podcasts, people that are connected to our church,

people that are outside of our church, people that are within church

circles, people that are outside of church circles. So I think

we do a good job of trying to play a balanced thing. I think on

topics where we need to be hard, I feel like we're hard. But

also, I don't know. Like, if you're. If the question is, are we

too soft? I wouldn't say we're too soft. I would just say we're

lightly soft because we're trying to. We're. We're not. We're

trying to. In the same way, talking about, like, exhorting people

and encouraging people. We're not trying to, like, we do a good

job. I think of saying, here's some steps that you might need to

take. Right. Again. I always do this, but my dad always taught

me. Right. When you point the finger at somebody else, like, you're

trying to bring correction, you're trying to bring exhortations

to somebody else. Just recognize that three fingers are

also pointed back at you. So I think we do a good job of saying,

like, hey, here's maybe some areas of correction, some direct

steps that you need to take, but also recognize that it's. We're

saying this out of love, because either one, we're dealing

with it, or two, we've been through it. You know, I think we

do a good job of that. So. Yeah, lightly soft.

I agree. I feel like I agree with that because I think also this.

Our podcast isn't always the space for, like, the most hardcore

exhortation and teaching. Like, you really need to get that

within your local church and, like, within your community and stuff

like that. So it's like, it would be hard to say a blanket statement

and say that this is as general as the gospel. Like, in reality,

like, that's not our platform, you know? So I agree with you. Okay,

Are you ready for the hot honey one? Okay, let me get my fork.

I will say it was hot. It was hotter than I expected.

This fork is freezing. I'm gonna get. Okay.

All right.

Okay. I'm like, I think I can do this one. I think I can do this

one.

All right.

I'm gonna wait until he has a question.

Let's talk about this. Do you ever feel spiritually dry, even while

leading others? And, like, what was that? If so, what is that

experience for you?

I'd rather bite the swing than answer that question. This is actually

delicious. I do feel it. I shouldn't have gotten it on my lips,

but that's okay. Wow, that one did get me.

It's a little spicy.

It's a little kick.

Yeah.

But I might just be smelling this. This one here.

You put it on your.

It's on my side. Yes. The answer is yes. And I think, honestly,

like, if you were to ever ask anyone that and they answer no, there

may not be a whole lot of honesty, because I feel like that's

just, like, the reality of being a believer. And maybe, you

know, you're like, a super hardcore Christian, and you've never

experienced any spiritual dryness in your life, period. Power

to you. That's just not my experience. And I feel like what

I lay back on is something that a mentor told me is, like, vulnerability

breeds vulnerability.

Yeah.

And so in the seasons where I do feel spiritually dry, I will probably

tell you, like, and if. Especially, like, if you're coming

to me for, like, some type of advice with something that I'm actively

wrestling with, I will tell you that, like, I'm like, I literally

had a meeting with someone. They were talking about, like, hey,

I heard your testimony about depression. Like, what are. What

are kind of your recommendations? Or, like, how do

you handle it? And I literally told her. I was like, ironically

enough, I'm dealing with it right now. I had just, like, dealt

with, like, kind of like a. A flare Up. And I was like, I'm dealing

with that right now. So what I'm trying to like, grasp and what

I'm trying to make myself believe in this season is what I'm

going to share with you.

Yeah.

And so I feel like whenever it becomes more about, like, image of

like, I'm a leader, so I can't struggle with this. I just don't

know if that's authentic. And I don't know if people will. I think

if anything that might make you more prone to enforcing like

a religious performance based, like, appearance within your community.

And like, for example, like my husband, I remember before my. Whenever

I was having surgery in February, I really wrestled with

telling our campus because I was like, I don't. I feel like I've

been complaining about my health for so long that it almost

just feels like, like I'm that person beating a dead horse. And

so, like, I really wrestled with that. But we did and they prayed

for me and it was beautiful and sweet and very joining. And I

remember talking to him about that afterwards and I was like, Carlos,

like, did it bother you? And he was like, no. Like, I, I, I. That's

the kind of environment that we want to, like, build. It's just

authenticity. And so it's okay. Like, if you find yourself

in those dry seasons, I think whenever you're moving based on performance,

you're only going to stifle your growth even more if you're not

authentic about it. So that's just my personal take.

That's a really good one.

My lips are like, I have like lip plumper on, basically. Okay,

your third.

Let's do it.

The mango habanero. I'm very curious about this flavor.

I mean, habanero is pretty hot, right?

Yeah. But it has mango. So like, maybe sweet.

Sweet. Okay, but hot honey was sweet. Hot.

I know. And I like. And I feel like the hot honey came afterwards.

Like she kind of came. Like, I feel it when I used a fork. So. Okay.

Anyways. Okay, your turn. Okay. That one's juicy as it comes.

I don't know if glistening is the right word. What's the. What's

the. It is. It's glistening. But in my mind when I say glistening,

it sounds like sweaty. I mean, I will be sweaty. I will be. I will

be glistening.

Okay, I'm ready, like, for relationships, for people dating

or like, oh, shoot, there's.

Yes.

There's some people that think that the test drive is okay, if you

know what I'm saying, You know, like, intimacy wise, if they

Want to. They want to test drive before they buy the car. And

then also there's people that are like, oh, like, I would rather,

you know, make a mistake than get married too young. What would

your advice be on something like that? Dang, that's a college

passport.

That's good. Okay. I mean, it's spicy for sure.

It is.

Yeah.

And you're saying that it's good. Our upbeats.

It's like getting time to die. It's in there, man. All right, what

was the question again?

What would you say to people that want to, like, test drive the

car before they. In relationships? And like, they're

like, well, I would rather make a mistake than get married too

young.

Yeah. If you're going to test drive the car, get a Toyota. They

last long. All you really got to do is, you know, get the oil change

and you'll be straight. You know, very low maintenance tires

every few thousand miles. Okay. Relationship.

When I laugh, the spice goes.

I was gonna say as soon as you said that, it started, like, spreading.

I know.

And I haven't even had it yet anyways. Okay. I'm sweating. I'm

already anxious.

Okay. Test driving.

Keep going. I'm gonna put my hair up.

My answer, I mean, honest answer is just don't do it. You know,

relation. Like, if we're talking about cars, test drive all

you want.

Yeah.

We're not talking about cars.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? We're talking about life.

Yes.

With one another. Relationships, bonds that you're

gonna make. You know, every time you do the act, the duty. Sex

makes me just use words. Why am I skirting around it? They're

old enough. When you do have sex with one another, you are creating

a bond that is meant. Yes. That is meant for, you know, like,

within the context of marriage. Was never meant to be outside

of the context of marriage. And every time you're doing that,

you're only, well, one. It's sin. But you're. You're. You're going

against God's original design like that. That really is the case.

And so for anybody out there that's thinking like, man, would

this work out? I need to test drive beforehand. First of all, like,

you're just asking the wrong question. Your marriage isn't centered

around, is she going to please me, or am I going to please her and

all those things. You are a loving couple. Like Ephesians, chapter

five, you know, like, let me just point you to scripture. What

are you as a husband supposed to do? Love your wife as Christ Loved

the church and gave himself up for her wives. Submit to your husbands

just as Christ did. Right. So as the church is to Christ. And so,

like, I would just say, like, you just need a new mind frame, a

new frame framework of mine. Because you're thinking, I can just

play the game without getting consequences.

Yeah.

But the reality is, is there's always consequences when you do it

outside of God's design.

I agree.

So I agree. For all them youngins. Don't. Don't be.

There's so many things you can do.

Just, like, don't be test driving.

I'm begging you, don't do it. It's a terrible idea. There's zero.

Zero benefit to it. Honestly. Like. Yeah. And you rip with your

soul, you know? So, like, I think I do believe that. I agree

with you. 100.

All right.

I'm so scared. Okay. I can do this. I'm gonna get. Let me get this

one. Dang it. This one's more juicy. That's too late. It's on the

fork.

Okay, here's the. The hot take question for you. Okay. This is talking

about our church. All right?

Oh, God.

If you could change one thing about how we do church.

You're fake.

What would it be? Also, what's your position here?

I actually don't work here. I don't know anything about this church.

If I could change one thing about what? About our church in general?

Yeah. About what we do and. Oh, you got to take the.

Oh, you're right. First.

It is spicy. It gets there. I actually like it. I don't know why.

I'm gonna go back for another one.

I'm trying just to swallow it so it'll burn me out from the inside

out.

The song that came to my mind is.

That.

You know that Hill song?

Holy crap. I'm buzzing out the coconut water.

You gonna survive. You haven't answered the question.

I know. I'm. I'm delaying it. It actually didn't bother me that

much. I'm like. It did. I feel it in my. I feel it in my esophagus.

The bad part is that I got, like, mostly breading. And, like,

the breading soaks up all the. All the sauce. That wasn't enough.

I'm busting out the coconut milk people. It's organic.

You got coconut water, coconut milk. What else you got? Coconut

ice cream. What you got? Wow. The levels of things. I guess. I

ain't gonna lie. It is. It's a little.

This. This oat milk is buzzing. Okay. Ah. Okay. What was

the question. Okay, never mind. I remember, I remember. I feel

like. I think we do a lot of things really well, and my context

is now different, you know, because I'm in North Arlington now.

Started at gpc, went to Pioneer, and then moved to North

Arlington.

Yeah.

And I think a lot of. I just wish people were better at being

willing to serve. I feel like that would be. And I think a lot

of that doesn't come from the fact that people are lazy or selfish

or anything like that. I think, if anything, people just may

not have a full understanding of what the needs are within the

church. Or they're like. I feel like when they think of serving,

they think of children's ministry and they're like, nah, I'm

not doing that. Like, you know, either. You have a really great

passion for children's ministry. You're like, I'm not doing

that. I never did it. I did it a couple times because they needed

me too. And I was like, but it was great, actually.

Like, I was like, but if it was my kids. You watching them?

No, bro.

I love.

I love your kids, bro. But there was like, I was really nervous

about it because they put me with, like, the four year olds and

five year olds, and I was like, oh, God, I don't know what

I'm doing. But I had, like, two people that were there with me

that were like, teachers, I knew everything, and the kids were

great. And so, like, it ended up not being what I thought it would

be. But I feel like. I just think that there is unfortunately

a lot of. Not a lot of, but I think consumer Christianity is unfortunately

still something that we need to break as, not just as our church,

but like, just Christian culture in general. And I find myself

in that too. Like, there are sometimes whenever, you know, we

have to go do something early, and I find myself complaining about

it, and I'm like, this is my joy to get to do this. I love the

spaces that we're in. And so I think that's. That's one thing for

sure is just, I wish people were more open to serving and that

we just. And like, one form of serving that I think is really necessary

is like, catch the people that come in late and leave early. You

know, like, people that are willing to serve and do that. Like,

people. Because I was one of those Christians, like, whenever

I wasn't a believer, I would just like slip in the back, stay

for a couple of songs, leave five minutes before he starts calling

people to the front so I could sneak out, get out before parking

Gets crazy. And, you know, I. Like, there were people that the

Lord put in my life that were pursuing me, and I know we have that

in our church. I just. I want to see more of that, too. Like, I

want to see more of people that are willing. And I find myself

in this, like, after service is over, I'm talking to my friends,

but I'm like, dang. Like, I need to be more intentional. Not

because the Lord. It's required for me to get to heaven

to be more intentional about pursuing people that maybe don't

know anybody, but it's because it's my joy. Like, because I remember,

because the Lord has given me the gift of community, and it's given

me the gift of knowledge, of salvation, and of surrendering to

the Lord that I want other people.

To have that, too, for sure.

So I feel like. I wish that's something that we could kind of bring

our people, everybody, to get on board on.

Yeah. But I love what you said, though, because you said it's

like, I'm.

Like, I'm so brave.

Hey, you kept it together.

I know.

Thank you, dude. But, like, just elaborating on your point. I

love what you were saying, because it starts with us, Right?

You said, hey, sometimes I get there, and I don't want to serve,

but, like, the act of serving and being there, I'm just hearing

the go. But it does. It starts with us and then building that desire

and then really just bringing people along and getting them. Getting

them to be part of that thing, and then being the one who's pursuing

the people who aren't, you know, I love that.

I. Yeah, I think that would. That was, like, the first thing that

came in my mind was just like, I just wish we could break that.

That cycle.

Yeah.

And I think we. We are in the process of doing that, and I think

a lot of. But I think whenever it just comes to. I think it's just,

like, something that. That we still are working on.

Yeah, for sure.

All right. I'm not ready for this next one if I'm already dying.

Okay, hold on.

Okay, hold on.

Marty texted me.

I was gonna say we had to show them the.

Anyway, so.

On my fingers. Look at this thing.

You don't want a fork? Oh, I already.

It's too late, bro.

I already used the last fork, so you can't use it. Okay.

Okay. Here's the question I have.

I feel it in my nose. How did it get up there?

My question is, is. Is it better? I understand that it's coated,

but Is it better to, like, take one bite and suffer or just

eat the whole thing because then there's more meat?

Why would you eat the whole thing?

To combat the spiciness? I don't know.

I think that's how it works. Because, like, look it, look at.

Is that not how it works?

You were the one that coated them. Look, people, this was a brand

new bottle and there was like, oh, we only have four wings. Let

me pour a fourth of it. Look, look. I've had experience with this

one before.

I think the scary thing is it's not glistening, bro. The other

one was. And this one's not.

This is cold peanut butter in there. My lips burn so bad.

All right, man, enough talking. Hold on.

I can't. I can't hold.

I got to endure this.

Give me a second.

What is this question?

I haven't thought. I haven't picked it.

I. I feel like I have to think about the question before I bite

it or else my brain's not gonna.

I know, I agree. So hold on. Give me a second. Okay, I have a

two parter question.

All right, what are we asking?

What would you feel sorry about? This isn't cold enough. Hold

on. This is for leaders.

This is a meme right now, dude.

What would you say to people that are like, don't go overseas

because there's so many lost people here? And then vice versa.

What would you say to people that are like, don't stay here. If

you feel like you're called to local missions because there's so

many upgs in the world, what would you say?

That's a. That's a two parter.

I feel like the answer is, like, kind of the same, but. But

I'm dying.

All right, let's just do this because there ain't no way, bro.

You're gonna have to probably repeat the question again.

That's fine. This still isn't cold enough. Are you okay? No. That

means I'm gonna die.

No, it just went to the back of my throat.

That's what it does.

So I have to talk. Oh, man.

Here, have some fries. These fries are delicious, actually.

I ain't gonna lie, though.

They're a little gooey, but they're pretty good.

Oh, you're gonna die.

I know. I'm so scared.

If you thought this was hot, you're gonna die, man. I'm sorry.

I'm doing. I'm fighting for my life.

Let me go ahead and let me pre game my ice cream. It's already melty.

I'm just Gonna be drinking this.

I ain't gonna lie. I'm fighting for my life right now just

to not cry. And.

Wow. Take as long as you need to.

What is the question? I know it's about upgs and Lord Jesus, help

me.

Salted caramel cluster available at a Kroger near you.

Okay.

This is delicious.

The reason we go is because it's not a lostness problem. It's

an access problem. People here in America have access to churches,

gospel content. Anywhere they go, there is lostness. Yes, but overseas,

they don't have access. They only have somebody. There's literally

in places where there's literally less than 1% people who

are believers, so. Or no access to the gospel at all.

Yeah.

So that's why we go. We go because. But that's my answer.

Yeah. No, that's a great answer.

I'm so sorry. I mean, I'm telling you, it is hot. Just eat,

like, half. Half.

I was just gonna take a bite. There's, like, little. This looks

like it has a needles in it.

That's what it feels like on my tongue.

God. Let's take care of my husband.

And.

Take care of my puppy.

I believe you can do it. Are you ready?

Okay, I'm ready. Ask questions.

How has the American dream infected the Great Commission?

You're feeling me.

I'm telling you. Just get. Get the ice cream. Get the. That's not

a bad idea. I forgot this ranch. We usually dip your celery

in the. In the peanut butter.

That's nasty. I can't do. I'm crying.

It's spicy, right?

It hurts.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The question is, how has the American

dream affected the Red Commission? Oh, no.

Oh, my God. She's crying.

Oh, my goodness.

You were crying, too.

I was crying. I have to be very careful with my.

What works better?

The ice cream. The ice cream? Yeah.

The peanut butter didn't do anything. I don't know what he's

talking about. Gordon Ramsay, I love you on Kitchen Nightmares,

but that doesn't work.

It just, like, burns from a really, really long time, and then

it finally. Oh, I'm feeling okay now.

Anyways. Okay. I think I'm. No, I'm not okay. So I think you

can achieve a lot of things in the United States. Like, this is

the land of opportunities in a lot of ways. So I think whenever.

It's just easy to get caught up in life if you don't constantly

remind yourself of the importance of the Great Commission.

Recently, in my quiet time, the Lord has been asking me When's

the last time you shared the gospel? And it's a convicting thing

because the reality is like, you can get caught up in like going

to church every Sunday, you're going to your community group, you're

serving, you're tithing, you're hanging out with your friends.

And it's just easy to get caught up in the, in the motions

of that. And then like, you know, I got married, we want to have

a house. We have to work and, you know, save up to put a house

on this, like to buy a house in this market. And we want to get

a puppy, Cowapu, really recommend it, and we'll have kids.

And you start making all these plans and then you realize that the

Lord isn't in any of it. Like, you know, yeah, the, like, God is

honored in marriage, God is honored whenever you like. I believe

that the Lord can receive the glory in buying a house, in like

building a family, in building community and doing all those things.

But if you're just like waking up for the sake of your responsibilities.

Yeah, if we're building a home based, building a family.

Yeah.

You know, I'm just reminded of like, it was this last Sunday they

were talking or no, was that last night a prayer gathering? Anyways,

they were talking about that verse. Whenever they're like, jesus,

your mother and brothers are outside. And he's like, who are my

mothers and brothers? The ones who obey my will. And so it's like,

I think there is beauty in the blessings that the Lord does give

us. But if those begin to take the position of the things he's called

us to do, then I think at that point you're just not just being

selfish, but you're just being wishy washy. Like you're literally

just like taking, going through life wherever life takes

you. I've almost finished this whole thing. Ice cream.

I love what you're saying because for me, I think the question

that I have to ask is there is a pull, There is a pull for the American

dream. We live in America. There's so much upside to being here.

But I think the question that I always ask myself is like, whose

kingdom am I building? The Great Commission is all about building

Jesus and his kingdom. But the American dream is building your own

kingdom. And so I have to wrestle with that. And I have to

choose to die daily to say, jesus, you are lord of my life. So

you're Lord over my career, your Lord over my family's success,

your career, over all the things that I can attain. Like, I

come from. My parents immigrated from the Philippines for

the American dream. Right. And all of the things that it would award

them. And they worked hard and hard and hard. But one thing that

they modeled really well for me and for my brothers and my sister

was like, they didn't let the American dream change their pursuit

of God's kingdom. Right. And because of that, man, I get to receive

so many rewards and live, like, with a lot of freedoms and

a lot of opportunities. And it's. To me, it's like spitting in

their face to say, like, well, now I'm just. All I'm gonna focus

is on the thing that you did so well of guarding against. You

know, like, yes, use it for the opportunity. Opportunity. But

also recognize that we. We don't live for this earthly kingdom.

We live for God's kingdom. So.

Yeah, and I think about Jesus too. Like, he. He didn't even have

a place to. Like, he didn't have to even have a pillow for his

head sometimes, you know? So I'm like, I. I think it's just easy.

My. I think my caution is that it's just easy to get caught up in

the motions of opportunity. And not every opportunity is. Requires

your action.

Yeah.

Like, and if the Lord is asking you to be more generous and

you don't want to because you have this really cool thing coming

out that you really want to buy, like, that's a sin, you know,

like. And so I think my caution would just be, like, how

does the Great Commission. I think growing up, I used to think

that the Great Commission was just for those, like, super psycho

Christians, like, the ones that are, like, super Christian.

Like, the Lord only calls, like, a handful of them to be missionaries.

And they're the Christians. That's their problem. They have to

worry about it. They're called to do it. But the reality is we are

all responsible for the Great Commission. Like, the Lord has expected

every believer to take a part of him. So your question is, isn't,

am I called to be a missionary? Your question should

be, lord, what part are you asking me to play?

Yeah.

Is that church planning? Is that going to upgs? Is that joining

in your local missionary? Is that evangelizing at your university

campus? You know, like, what does that look like? Because you.

You do play a part. You are responsible for a piece, and only

the Lord can identify that for you. So that would just be my. My

recommendation, my challenge, and then allow the Lord to ask you,

like, when's the last time you shared the gospel? And that has been

a very convincing answer because I feel like it's shown a

lot of my priorities whenever. I can't say recently, you know, Scared.

Anyways, thank you for joining us.

Hot wings, hot takes.

Hot wings, hot takes. We'll put. Probably not do this again.

Just kidding. Maybe. Anyways. Okay. Well, that's it. Do you have

any final.

Nope. I'm ready.

Peanut butter does not work. Ice cream does. So that's our recommendation.

Good.

Thank you guys for joining us.

Peace.