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  1. Hey, welcome to the City Point Church podcast.

  2. Thanks for joining us. Every day is an opportunity to

  3. take hold of. So we hope this message inspires

  4. you and build your faith, but it helps you have more of a God

  5. perspective for your day. Enjoy.

  6. To hear from each of you about your life story, testimonies of

  7. what it means to be a praying woman, what it means to be the

  8. daughter of an incredible praying woman and through many,

  9. many seasons. And so I know that I am

  10. absolutely blessed to hear your answers to each of these

  11. questions and church. I pray it be a blessing to you

  12. too, as we get to know these women more, but also get to

  13. learn a little bit more about how we men as a women, be so

  14. strengthened in our relationship and our intimacy with our God.

  15. And so this morning I have a few questions.

  16. My first one is for all of you. So I'm sure you each have a

  17. microphone. Fantastic.

  18. I'm going to let you decide who gets this one first.

  19. My question is because each of you have different journeys and

  20. have had different life experiences, I would love if you

  21. could share with us what prayer looked like in the world where

  22. you were raised. OK, I'll go first.

  23. Yes, Justine. So for me, prayer looked very

  24. different from a Christian life. In fact, it was the complete

  25. opposite. For those who don't know, my

  26. family and I were raised in a Muslim background, so prayer in

  27. the household looked like going to the mosque.

  28. You'd pray to Allah, you'd have prayer mats, you'd get beat if

  29. you don't pray, and you'd have to pray five times as a day a

  30. day. So as a child I didn't really

  31. understand any of it. But still to this day I remember

  32. how stroked and mandatory prayer was.

  33. But after being saved and coming into Christianity, it was

  34. completely different. Thank you Lord.

  35. My mother was probably the biggest example of what prayer

  36. looked like. She would be up at night or

  37. early in the morning praying so loud so we'd always hear her.

  38. But growing up, this showed me that Christianity is a

  39. relationship with the Lord, that it's not strictly limited to a

  40. certain time of the day, that prayer can be done anywhere and

  41. everywhere. But I will.

  42. Say, I do admire the consistency and effort that Muslims put into

  43. praying. I think that as believers, it's

  44. something that we should all be going in if we want to build the

  45. habit of daily prayer. Thank you, Justine.

  46. Wow. I did not grow up in a Christian

  47. home, so we had no prayer at all in my home.

  48. I think if there's one way that it's now shaped how we pray in

  49. our house now, how I do as a discipline, it's that when I

  50. growing up, the moment we woke up, things were like always

  51. super hectic, like there was no peace or calmness in our

  52. morning. So now the like first fruit of

  53. my morning goes towards prayer, goes towards humbling myself for

  54. my day and also before the Lord and setting my day for him so

  55. that he can direct me in each each way that I go so that I can

  56. have peace and and some sense of calm in this world throughout

  57. the day. So that's probably mine.

  58. Significant. Well I have a very different

  59. story to the 2 girls. For I was raised in a House of

  60. faith and so for me there are two things that I saw as a

  61. rhythm of prayer in my childhood for all good church kids, any

  62. church kids in the house. Monday night prayer colouring

  63. under the Rose. It was a normal part of the

  64. rhythm of our family for all of my years growing up and I,

  65. unlike these two girls, woke up to the sound of a praying

  66. parent. And so when I we would wake up,

  67. it was to the alarm of my father storming heaven and my mother

  68. lying in her bed with a cup of tea, praying in tongues.

  69. And because we lived in a 2 bedroom flat, even though we

  70. were a family of six with some of us children inside their

  71. bedroom, we got to witness a life of prayer.

  72. And that was our morning wake up.

  73. Beautiful. Wow, that is so much like just

  74. remarkable. Pastor Mel, this question is for

  75. you. Would you be able to speak to us

  76. about how you learnt to pray and what that looks like?

  77. I would say to everybody here in the room who has faith to answer

  78. your question, Pastor Nicole, it was absolutely learnt behaviour.

  79. So because I witnessed what it was to pray to the Lord, it was

  80. easy to step into it myself. Unsurprisingly, that is part of

  81. the rhythm that I have done for my life is morning prayer

  82. because it is what I saw as a pattern for many years in my

  83. years of formation. So I would say that would be the

  84. number one answer is it is a learnt behaviour.

  85. But to step into it myself, I received an incredible gift

  86. every year. Our church used to give us a

  87. part of the Christmas pageant, which is what they were called

  88. back then, Christmas pageant. They would give you a Christian

  89. book and every single child received one and they were very

  90. individual and at 12 years old I received, for all of those of

  91. this era church, you know exactly what this is.

  92. I received Rebecca St. James 40 Days with God and it

  93. was a prayer journal to walk you through teaching you how to

  94. pray. And so at 12 years old, I

  95. received this for Christmas and I took this 40 days, which at

  96. that time was coupled with fasting, which was significant.

  97. And, and I have used that rhythm of prayer then for the rest of

  98. my life. So I would encourage those who

  99. have young people in the room to set your children up.

  100. Don't just leave them to their own.

  101. You know, they'll figure it out for themselves.

  102. I was. I felt like I was set up as a

  103. child both through a learned experience I got to witness it,

  104. but also given some tools to help me discover and study and

  105. understand what it was to talk to God and have Him talk back to

  106. me. Thank you, Pastor Mel, I've seen

  107. many of the how to pray for tweens and for children and for

  108. teenagers and for adults at Quran with a sneaky plug.

  109. Pastor Soraya, would you be able to speak on what what it was or

  110. what happened in your life that made prayer personal to you?

  111. Could you bring us through that journey?

  112. Yeah, I think prayer isn't something that I, in my personal

  113. opinion, that becomes personal for a person.

  114. Prayer is actually just personal.

  115. And so I think we sometimes can feel distant from it.

  116. So I think at the beginning of my prayer life and understanding

  117. what prayer was, I felt very distant from it because it was

  118. something foreign to me that I didn't understand properly or I

  119. still don't. I'm still learning, but I think

  120. in the journey that we take in understanding the personal God

  121. that we serve, like the fact that we have a God who is not

  122. separate from us and who is like we're here and he's far away and

  123. we have to do all of these different things to try and get

  124. into his presence and know him is not the reality of who we

  125. actually serve. Not only do we have Jesus Christ

  126. who came down on onto earth as fully man, fully God, and dwelt

  127. amongst his people so that now we have a high priest that knows

  128. every single part about our struggle and our life.

  129. Not only that, but when he was, he ascended back to heaven.

  130. We were then given the Holy Spirit to dwell with us always

  131. so that we wouldn't be separate from God.

  132. That was no longer a separation. So I think it's so personal in

  133. the whole makeup of what we believe as Jesus believing Holy

  134. Spirit filled people. It is a personal thing that we

  135. do. And so prayer isn't is not

  136. separate from that. And so I believe that I know

  137. that when I started to learn about prayer and learn what

  138. prayer actually looked like for me, one thing that helped click

  139. into my head what it looked like because I'm very visual was in

  140. Psalms and Revelation. It talks about the prayer of the

  141. Saints being like gold bowls of incense in the throne room.

  142. And that to me just clicked something in my head.

  143. And I remember thinking, I, I grew up in a house where my mom

  144. constantly burnt incense. And I hated it because anybody

  145. who's been in a room full of incense, it's like a full

  146. sensory experience, right? It's thick so you can see it,

  147. you smell it, you can feel it because it's so thick.

  148. You can hear it burning, like you can even taste it.

  149. Incense is this is that thick. And this is what sits in the

  150. throne room of heaven and that is how our prayers are received

  151. for our Holy Father and Jesus Christ who sits at the right

  152. hand side. And it is a sweet and pleasing

  153. aroma to Him like that to me is if there's anything that made it

  154. feel personal, it was that. Because what do you mean that I

  155. serve a God who not only made a way for my salvation so that I

  156. was no longer held and bound to sin and shame and death, but now

  157. he sits in the throne room, the holiest of holies, and my

  158. prayers are able to be there in a gold bowl?

  159. What? Like that, that was super crazy

  160. to me. So I think the more you begin to

  161. learn about who it is that you serve, who it is that you've

  162. given your life to, who you have handed everything over to, you

  163. see that he is personal. So he has given us this personal

  164. thing of prayer to be able to speak to him.

  165. Like just like Justine was speaking about before with what

  166. people who who are Muslim have to do to pray, like they have to

  167. face a certain way. I don't know the whole Muslim

  168. thing, sorry if I get it wrong. You can come talk to me

  169. afterwards. But like, they got to face a

  170. certain way and they got to do these things.

  171. No, I can shut my eyes right now.

  172. I can shut my eyes right now and be like, Holy Lord my Father in

  173. heaven, oh Holy Spirit, you are with me and you dwell with me in

  174. every place. I am able to come into the

  175. throne room boldly because of Jesus Christ and what he has

  176. done for me. Like this is the God that we

  177. serve. He is personal and prayer is

  178. another just personal key for us to be able to speak with him,

  179. have his ear. Like I could be in my car and

  180. just be like, Lord, I'm having a, I'm having a day, please, I

  181. just need you right now. And he hears it.

  182. It's still in a gold bowl of incense in the throne room.

  183. So yes. Amen.

  184. Thank you Pastor Saraya, I love that you touched on just the

  185. praying in the car bit as well. Just a reminder to everybody

  186. that you can pray with your eyes open.

  187. He still hears You Beautiful. I would love, we already are

  188. getting really honest, to be honest with you, but I would

  189. love if we could hear from each of you.

  190. As women, we know that there are very, very busy seasons in our

  191. lives. So from I mean, I know I'm not

  192. even a mom yet, but moms, how do you do it?

  193. There's so much, you know that women do and are responsible for

  194. in the ministry of their homes, in their workplaces, wherever

  195. they find themselves. Would you be able to speak on?

  196. I'll start with you, Pastor Mel, how you prioritize prayer in a

  197. full season. Well-being really honest, I

  198. would love to know this season's thing and when seasons finish

  199. and when seasons start because I don't know if anybody else is

  200. feeling this in our age, in our times that busy seasons don't

  201. seem to stop. Does anybody else feel that?

  202. And I do think it is the God of our age.

  203. I believe that when the enemy can't make us bad, he makes us

  204. busy. And so we are distracted from

  205. the important stuff or the priority stuff because our lives

  206. are so full. So being really truthful, I have

  207. felt like I've experienced a season that's gone for the last

  208. 15 years, and most seasons are really, really busy.

  209. And so I would answer your question, Nick, that our rhythms

  210. then have to prioritize, regard our circumstances.

  211. I, I have through the grace of God learnt like Pastor Surrey

  212. was saying that each moment of our day requires prayer.

  213. And this does not mean by, you know, time or in a calendar, but

  214. in the rhythms of our routines. We require stopping and talking

  215. to the Lord regularly because we do a lot.

  216. As a part of this rhythm. I have found I can't do

  217. back-to-back meetings anymore. I require at least a 20 minute

  218. break between. A lot of my life is is meetings,

  219. is meeting with people, and so I require 20 minute intervals

  220. between to stop and do what the Bible says, to cast my cares

  221. upon the Lord and to reset and go.

  222. You have anointed me and you have graced me for what I'm

  223. about to walk into, regardless of what it is, whether it's, you

  224. know, walking people through trials or finance or walking

  225. back into homes where toddlers are like they want you on,

  226. right? That you've graced me to do this

  227. and you've anointed me. He has anointed you and graced

  228. you for what he's called you to do today, each and everyone of

  229. you. And so when we remind ourselves

  230. of that and we go, God speak to me about what I'm about to go

  231. into, we find we are less reactionary and more purposeful

  232. in operating in what he says about whatever situation we're

  233. going into. It doesn't matter whether it

  234. carries great joy or whether it carries great pain.

  235. And so I don't think it is a prioritizing a specific moment,

  236. but rather lots and lots of rhythms around what your life

  237. looks like. The truth is, as many moments

  238. before a phone call to your next client could just have that God,

  239. before I speak to them, let me be light.

  240. Let me be love so that I don't come from me and I don't bring

  241. what I last was carrying into this moment.

  242. Yeah. Beautiful Justine, similar to

  243. what Pastor Mel said, I just feel like I've learnt throughout

  244. my life that there's no excuse to not pray when you understand

  245. that it's a relationship with the Lord, you realize that he's

  246. not there sitting counting the minutes you spend in prayer.

  247. He's simply delighted that we've showed up and so that's helped

  248. me to realize that I can talk to God wherever I am.

  249. So if there's days where I've slept in or I've got an early

  250. shift where I just don't feel like praying, I can still talk

  251. with God and even in my mind because we all talk to ourselves

  252. in our heads. So I just thought why not direct

  253. that towards God instead? So yeah, it's just great to be

  254. able to know that I can talk to the Lord anytime, wherever I am.

  255. And I've changed my schedule to prioritize my time with him.

  256. So I've noticed that when I didn't have uni or early

  257. mornings it felt easier to spend time with God, but when it meant

  258. waking up an extra hour early. But was staying up later it

  259. actually began to cost me something.

  260. And so I've noticed the shift in power and that when I work my

  261. schedule around God first. That's right.

  262. That's the Surya. I, I do agree a lot with what

  263. both personal and Justina said about the rhythms of your life

  264. and seasons change. Like last year I was in full

  265. time Bible college and this year I'm not.

  266. So it's a completely different way of how like last year I had

  267. on the way home a commute that was nearly an hour and 40

  268. minutes. And during that time, I would

  269. just shut off, wouldn't answer my phone, and I would just pray.

  270. And that was my time at the Lord.

  271. But my discipline in prayer, because I do believe that it's

  272. important to have a discipline of prayer.

  273. Mine is my first fruits of the morning.

  274. I wake up in the morning, whether it is I am still in bed

  275. and I have 1/2 hour or whether I've gotten up when I was

  276. supposed to and I've got 2 hours to give to the Lord.

  277. The first fruits of my day will go to him, and I will be in His

  278. presence in the morning before my children wake, before my

  279. husband wakes, because my relationship with God, Jesus,

  280. and the Holy Spirit is so much more important than anything

  281. else I do in my day. And I want him to know that.

  282. I want him to know that I love him, and I want to see him in

  283. the morning. And also like what Pastor Mel

  284. said, just taking that time out so that you're able to respond

  285. to things in a way because we all go throughout our day and

  286. things happen and they're not great.

  287. You know, all that kind of stuff.

  288. Well, you know, life throws you a curveball.

  289. But when you've set your day out and you've said, Lord, here I

  290. am, use me today and whichever way you want and however that

  291. looks according to your will, He's like, OK, cool, I'm allowed

  292. in today. I'm allowed to be here today.

  293. The Holy Spirit is allowed to work through through me today.

  294. So I do keep that discipline. The other things might change in

  295. my day, but my discipline is my morning for the Lord.

  296. It's before my children. You can even ask Malachi or

  297. Zion. If they wake up and I have my

  298. Bible and I'm sitting there, it's more Zion than Malachi.

  299. I'll say that it's more Zion. But if Zion like they come out

  300. and they see me sitting with my Bible because we live in a

  301. really small house, I'll just kindly remind them, especially

  302. Zion and say, do you do you see what I'm doing here?

  303. I'm spending time with my father and he will go OK mom and leaves

  304. until my Bibles closed and I'm up and walking around again.

  305. So yeah, that's what I believe. Thank you.

  306. Beautiful influence on your boys there as well.

  307. Pastor Mel, Pastor Shreya mentioned you know when when

  308. times are getting hard, if someone is feeling not as

  309. particularly spiritual to get up and to pray.

  310. What does prayer look like in those moments as well for you?

  311. It's a great question. I think that the enemy loves to

  312. trap us in using our default behaviours to counteract or to

  313. fight against challenging times. Regardless of what the

  314. challenging times are. Humanity does one of two things.

  315. We love to find somewhere to blame, right?

  316. We love to find who's at fault. Because it couldn't possibly be

  317. me, right? And #2 then we need to tell

  318. somebody about it. Come on, let's be real and

  319. honest this morning, all right? I have found that when I react

  320. like this default behaviors that I am never praying according to

  321. His Word. I am a pray.

  322. I am praying, still praying according to my flesh, according

  323. to my emotions. And I actually think that this

  324. the enemy loves us to have these fruitless prayers, but not

  325. effective prayers, right? Might be fervent, but not

  326. effective. And so as a part of the rhythm

  327. for my life, I have decided that I wanted to pray the Word of

  328. God. And so regardless of where I am

  329. in the Word of God, I pray because God speaks through every

  330. part of it. None of His word is made

  331. redundant. It is alive and it is living.

  332. He is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

  333. So there is no challenge. There is no situation that there

  334. isn't an answer for here, but I don't even need to go searching

  335. for it. I can simply open it and pray

  336. it. And so for quite a long period

  337. of time in my life, maybe the last 17 years, I've actually

  338. used my Bibles as prayer journals.

  339. So the margins, you have to buy Bibles that are margins to do

  340. this, but the margins are the chapter title and then the

  341. prayer, praying through exactly what the chapter says.

  342. This then helps me align my life to His will.

  343. I think so many of us feel at odds or even at a loss of

  344. direction for our lives. And yet if we open our word,

  345. direction is found instead of being LED emotionally or led by

  346. being really honest. Others.

  347. I, I read my word and I see that Job's friends, godly friends,

  348. had nothing good to say. Nothing.

  349. They were godly friends. And there isn't an account in

  350. that word that is according to God's will.

  351. And so Job just had to go back to the source and the source

  352. alone. And I love this in the start of

  353. Psalms when I've gone through really challenging times, not

  354. just what I'm reading at the time.

  355. At the moment I'm in Isaiah, which is really quite full on.

  356. I'm sure many of us feel about the Bible in All in all,

  357. wherever you are at like this. But I will revert back and I

  358. will start to read the Psalms again because I'm reminded that

  359. in hard times he is very, very, the psalmist is very, very

  360. honest with the Lord. And right from the very

  361. beginning it says comments like this made by the psalmist at the

  362. very beginning of the Champ chapters, chapter 4 says, answer

  363. me when I call to you. That's, that's the psalmist

  364. talking to the Lord. Does anybody else talk to the

  365. Lord like that? Answer me when I talk to you

  366. right. Oh God who declares me innocent,

  367. free me from my troubles, have mercy on me and hear my prayer.

  368. Hear my prayer chapter 5 Lord, hear me as I pray.

  369. Pay attention to my groaning. Listen to my cry for help, my

  370. King and my God. For I pray to no one but you.

  371. And this is what I have highlighted.

  372. I haven't written in the front of my Bible, for I pray to no

  373. one but you. I think church we can commonly

  374. pray to ourself. This is how my feelings are.

  375. This is what my friends have said.

  376. And so I'm going to pray about that.

  377. But his word says, for I pray to no one but you, I'm going to

  378. hear from you where my direction and my help comes from.

  379. Thank you, Parsima. I was so hoping that you would

  380. bring about how you've been journaling in your Bible.

  381. You spoke about this. I don't.

  382. Yeah, a while ago. And it's a habit that I have

  383. been able to do as well. And I I hope that that blesses

  384. many, many people here today because this our Bibles are life

  385. manuals and they are prayer manuals as well.

  386. They're amazing. I'm in Isaiah at the moment, and

  387. if you're worried about anything that's going on in the world,

  388. pray through Isaiah. It's all there says don't put

  389. your hope in governments don't put your hope in wealth, don't

  390. put your hope in. Don't put your hope in.

  391. Don't put your hope in. You can't build trust with

  392. anything else except God. God and God alone.

  393. That's what it's telling you when it's saying rivers and

  394. Cedars and let it have been on and all of the above, right?

  395. Amen. Thank you, Pastor Saraya.

  396. There might be women here today who we don't quite know how to

  397. pray yet. Can you speak to those women in

  398. the room? Yeah, awesome.

  399. I would, I would say to anybody in the room who's feeling as

  400. though they can't pray before we just before when I answered

  401. about personal prayer and I talked about incense, what it

  402. says in Scripture about incense burning in the throne room of

  403. God. Incense needs fire to get

  404. started. And we have been given the most

  405. incredible helper, the most incredible in power in the

  406. world. The same Spirit that rose Jesus

  407. Christ from the dead now lives within us, and He is the holy

  408. fire that we need at any single moment, that we can call upon in

  409. any single moment when we don't know what to say.

  410. And that's the beauty of our spirit language.

  411. That's a beauty. Beauty of speaking in tongues is

  412. that we don't even know what to say, but the Spirit makes groans

  413. through us that are in line and in thought with the Father's

  414. will for our life. And so that's the first point I

  415. would say. We here in City Point are

  416. Pentecostal, Holy Spirit, believing, fire, holding people.

  417. And so then if you are in a moment and you feel as though

  418. you can't pray, you don't know what to say, call upon the Holy

  419. Spirit. He is present everywhere, every

  420. moment. He is never not near you.

  421. So you don't call upon Him, and He takes a while to get to you.

  422. He is there always and as soon as you call upon Him, He will

  423. bring to you words that you are able to speak, words that don't

  424. have to be fancy. Prayer isn't fancy and all that

  425. kind of stuff. But the Holy Spirit is your best

  426. friend when it comes to prayer. He is the one who intercedes on

  427. your behalf and He also even gives you the empowering and the

  428. knowledge to even know what to pray about.

  429. So the Holy Spirit first and foremost, speaking in tongues,

  430. your spirit language, if you don't know where to start, start

  431. there. If you haven't been baptized in

  432. the Spirit, come and see one of us and we will lay hands and

  433. fire will fall upon you in the name of Jesus by the Holy

  434. Spirit. The second part I would say is

  435. just like what Pastor Mel said is Scripture is your go to.

  436. Scripture is where we find the makeup and the not rules, but

  437. the blueprint for how to pray. Anytime I've had anyone come to

  438. me and say how do I pray? I want to learn how to pray.

  439. I say Scripture's the best place.

  440. Psalms is an incredible place to start to pray.

  441. If you want fancy language like I do, I love fancy words, I go

  442. to Psalms. Psalms gives me all the fancy

  443. words, but in Matthew 6, Jesus tells us he gives us the

  444. blueprint on how to pray. And it says even starting in

  445. seven. And when you pray, do not heap

  446. up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they

  447. will be heard for their many words.

  448. Do not pray like them, for your Father knows what you need

  449. before you ask him. This is how Jesus is leading

  450. this. And then he says prayer like

  451. this. I'm getting a little bit fired

  452. up right now, but it says pray like this.

  453. Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your Kingdom come,

  454. your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

  455. Give us this day Our Daily Bread, and forgive us our debts

  456. as we forgive those who have debts against us.

  457. Oh come on, lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from

  458. evil, for yours is the Kingdom and the power and glory forever

  459. and ever. Amen.

  460. So if you don't know what to pray, I just prayed Scripture

  461. right then. And the fire of what comes from

  462. what we have been been given is readily available to you to

  463. speak in every moment. And you might think, oh, this

  464. situation doesn't doesn't make sense that I would be praying

  465. the Father's prayer. This prayer is the prayer you

  466. can pray anywhere every time. And the Holy Spirit comes, you

  467. are submitting yourself to the Father's will for your for your

  468. prayer and what you are speaking in that moment.

  469. So yeah, Scripture, Holy Spirit and Scripture, two of the key

  470. ingredients that we need to be able to pray and pray

  471. effectively. So.

  472. Yeah, Pastor Saray, you are on fire, the Holy Spirit.

  473. So I'm going to shoot back to you.

  474. Are you ready? I am sure there are many, many,

  475. many, many many moments and accounts, but I would love for

  476. us to hear one where prayer has changed something in you or

  477. around you. This.

  478. Yeah. Awesome everyday it is.

  479. But if I can think of one specific moment was I, my

  480. husband and I, we were supporting a close friend of

  481. ours of my husband's through a court journey he was going

  482. through. He was in jail and he was having

  483. his court date to see whether he would be let out on a suspended

  484. sentence or whether he would have to serve that time.

  485. And so we went all the way to Brisbane to the Supreme Court,

  486. you know, the big dog one. And we were in there and I just

  487. remember sitting in the courtroom and it's so like, Oh

  488. my gosh, it's so like they come in and you go to Bow and I don't

  489. know if you've ever been to court, but it was like super

  490. hectic. And I was sitting in our seats.

  491. And then they brought our friend in and he came and sat on the

  492. right hand side of where the judge was sitting.

  493. He sat on the right hand side. And sorry, it's left because

  494. when you're looking this way, but if you're looking from the

  495. judge, it's right anyway. And he was being defended by his

  496. lawyer and his lawyer would go to him and our friend, if, if

  497. you knew him, he's he, he's doesn't have any fancy words.

  498. He doesn't know, doesn't know any law terms.

  499. So the lawyer would be going to him and be saying, and then

  500. she'd come and she'd say something incredible.

  501. And I'd be like, he didn't say that, not my friend.

  502. He didn't say that. But I had this revelation

  503. sitting in that courtroom and I just felt the Holy Spirit

  504. descend upon that place and show me the throne room of God and

  505. how when I enter the throne room of God, Jesus Christ, my Lord

  506. and Savior, your Lord and Savior is sitting at the right hand of

  507. the Father. And when I go into the throne

  508. room, I probably come with words that don't make sense.

  509. And I'd be like there. But then Jesus comes and he

  510. goes, What was that? Okay, cool.

  511. Comes before the Father intercedes and speaks on my

  512. behalf. What?

  513. That's just crazy. This all happened in that moment

  514. of sitting in that courtroom, seeing how our Father in heaven

  515. has set up prayer for us and what Jesus Christ, what the

  516. price he paid on the cross now means for us more so than just

  517. the salvation, which is an adjust.

  518. It's incredible what he did there, but the tools and the

  519. keys that he has given us now to live life as Jesus, believing

  520. Holy Spirit filled, praying fervently people is just

  521. immense. He goes before us on our behalf

  522. half in every kind of way. So now when I pray and I enter

  523. the throne room, it is a seed of humility that I always take

  524. because it's not me I want defending myself or it's not me

  525. that I want speaking on my own behalf.

  526. It's Jesus Christ. And He knows what I'm going to

  527. pray before I even get there. And then when I get there, he's

  528. praying on my behalf with words that are more incredible and

  529. more in line with the Father's will and that speak a better

  530. word than I could ever, ever say.

  531. And so that's something that I've forgotten the question

  532. anyway. But this, this is how I pray now

  533. and this is the breakthrough that I had in prayer was that I

  534. have been given the keys to be able to enter the throne room as

  535. the righteousness of Christ. Like this just blows my mind

  536. continuously, which is why my face looks like that is that I

  537. cannot make sense of the fact that not only did I receive

  538. salvation from Jesus Christ so that I would no longer be bound

  539. to sin, death and shame in my life, but that then he also gave

  540. me life and life abundantly that I can go into these heavenly

  541. places, these high places and be able to speak with my Father in

  542. in in conjunction with Jesus Christ.

  543. And then when I here, the Holy Spirit prompts me every every

  544. second of the day, gives me the words to say and intercedes for

  545. me. And it just it's insane to me

  546. that we live this life and this is what we're we are readily

  547. given when we accept Jesus Christ into my life.

  548. So I hope that answered the question.

  549. It does. Absolutely powerful.

  550. Pastor Surrey. What?

  551. Yeah, but what? Pastor Surrey you've just

  552. shared? Not just what a moment where

  553. prayer changed something in you, but truly for me and I'm sure

  554. many people here just hearing that revelation alone,

  555. visualizing it and now knowing it on our hearts, I I'm sure it

  556. is going to change for each of us as well.

  557. That was that was mammoth. Thank you, Possumel.

  558. A few weeks ago you were chatting to me about a beautiful

  559. story of a woman named Susanna Wesley.

  560. And you were talking about how she was this busy mother, lots

  561. of kids and and she would do something quite remarkable.

  562. I was touched by this. And so I'd love if you could

  563. speak on it to the to our beautiful church.

  564. Sure. Who in the building knows who

  565. Susanna Wesley is? A couple.

  566. OK, great. So one of our incredible fathers

  567. of the faith. This was his mother, all right?

  568. And I just love this because we hear of some of the significant

  569. things that John Wesley has done for the body of faith.

  570. There are incredible resources out there.

  571. If you've never heard about the impact that this man's life had

  572. on churches across the world, it's significant.

  573. But this is actually the story of his mom who raised not one

  574. son but many children. And he learnt, he spoke about

  575. the story. This is how it came out about

  576. the significance on and the impact on his life because he

  577. witnessed, which is even why we have Justine sitting on this

  578. panel today. She is sitting here as witness

  579. and as testimony of an interceding mother, a woman who

  580. intercedes with her life. There are many in this church

  581. who've been impacted by the intercession of this mother.

  582. Well, this particular mother, Susanna Wesley, was exactly the

  583. same. And John was so marked by it

  584. that he spoke about it many times.

  585. And so he said he was taught the importance of talking to God

  586. first, say first. We have a habit in this day and

  587. age of talking to everything else first.

  588. But Susanna found it such a priority to talk to her God

  589. first that it mocked her children and it set them up for

  590. ministries that went across the planet.

  591. She had this unusual practice that she actually used to get

  592. either her kitchen apron or a tea towel, and she would put it

  593. up over her head. And when the tea towel or the

  594. apron was placed over her head, it was a mark to her children.

  595. Like Pastor Saraya was saying, when the Bible is open, Zion

  596. knows she's spending time with her father.

  597. For Susanna, the children knew that she was talking to her

  598. father and that she was not to be interrupted.

  599. For this mother, she actually John has actually unpacks that

  600. she used to put this over her head for two hours every day.

  601. Somewhere in the day, the apron or the tea towel would be

  602. covering her face and she would say it would cover my face so

  603. that I have time to come face to face with my Heavenly Father and

  604. give him one-on-one attention and hear from Him.

  605. And so this story absolutely marked me because in the seasons

  606. that we have for so many here, there will be many of you in the

  607. young family season. It gives us an incredible idea

  608. of how we can prioritize this. For the girls who were at SWB

  609. last week, you may have heard Pastor Lee say she locked her

  610. children in a bedroom and would lie on the floor outside the

  611. bedroom door. Did anybody else hear that riot?

  612. Sometimes it takes extreme measures.

  613. Do you know? It doesn't matter what your

  614. strategy is. I have a place that I get to go

  615. without them. And so it's a sacred place

  616. without little ones where I get to talk to the Lord.

  617. And often in those times, it's where you're weeping, but you

  618. are also rejoicing. It's where the Lord meets you so

  619. intimately. Do you know, I think one of

  620. these great strategies that I've actually used and all of my

  621. children will attest to this, doesn't matter whether they are

  622. 4 or 21 of these has been in the car.

  623. Is anybody else find that children just become chaotic in

  624. the car? It's like they know that your

  625. hands are on the wheel and you're not allowed to do

  626. anything else. And so you've done these ones

  627. long enough and it's not working.

  628. And it definitely doesn't work to go.

  629. Would you be quiet? It's almost like it elevates the

  630. volume, right? I don't know where I got this

  631. from. I'd probably say if I asked my

  632. mother, I probably got it from her because it's it's, it's one

  633. of these wild strategies, but it's not uncommon in our car.

  634. That when the children go chaotic, I will just start and

  635. the car falls silent. Some of you are looking for

  636. silence with the Lord. You might just need to speak in

  637. tongues. Because the truth is, is I think

  638. even when we've received really hard news, sometimes I've been

  639. able to do nothing else but that is to pray in a heavenly

  640. language or sing in a heavenly language and it is silenced the

  641. noise. And some of us need to hear that

  642. this morning. The noise will always be there.

  643. But that what God has given us strategies to silence the noise.

  644. So say some of you might need to exercise today, some speaking in

  645. tongues on the way home from church with tired children.

  646. Shiki Araba Cosi Carrera. Thank you, Pastor Mel for

  647. teachers in the room. It works in the classroom too.

  648. I'm just going to finish off with some rapid fire questions,

  649. so Mike's ready. We'd like to hear from all of

  650. you. One quick, quick answer as quick

  651. as you can. So are you a morning prayer or

  652. late night prayer or both? Morning, morning.

  653. Both worship music or silence when you pray.

  654. Silence. Worship music.

  655. OK, love. It journaling prayer or walking

  656. prayer? Journaling.

  657. Walking. Journaling.

  658. Journaling as well, yeah. One word women need to hear

  659. today. Pray first, talk last.

  660. Is it just one word or you can say it?

  661. Could be a phrase. Phrase is fine.

  662. You are the daughter of the Most High, Yeah.

  663. I'd say authenticity. Yeah, say it.

  664. What steals prayer most easily? Dizziness.

  665. As Pastor Mel said before, I'd say pride.

  666. Yeah, I'm with Pastor Surya. And lastly, do you have your

  667. best prayer tip in one sentence? Just have a yarn.

  668. Great. Just he just wants to talk to

  669. you and that's what prayer is. It's super relational.

  670. Just speak with your Father in heaven.

  671. He'll receive you however you come.

  672. Just as you talk with your friends, you talk with the

  673. people you love. You receive them as they are

  674. when they speak to you. Your Father in heaven does so

  675. much more in that aspect. Just talk to him.

  676. Just talk to him. I would say come boldly.

  677. Beautiful. Just like pride steals prayer

  678. lives. I think it's why we're prompted

  679. to come boldly into the throne room.

  680. We do not need to be covered. Or I would say, leave the cloak

  681. of shame at the door, drop it off and walk in.

  682. If there's anybody who can redeem, restore, renew, it's

  683. Him. So come boldly, so.

  684. Good. It's like God is our Father, so

  685. you'd come to him as children when we pray and that it's a

  686. conversation with the Lord. So to not have all these big

  687. standards or expectations, but it's just communion conversation

  688. with him. Amazing.

  689. Hey, can we thank these beautiful women for sharing with

  690. us? Thank you so much, Justine.

  691. Pastor Saraya, Pastor Mel Touch. I'm going to leave you with

  692. Pastamel as I know she's got something incredible to end this

  693. morning. Yeah, we're going to do

  694. something just a little bit different.

  695. Girls, you received a gift this morning.

  696. I'm going to ask you in this moment, would you unwrap it?

  697. It'll make sense when you do. We've spoken today about Susanna

  698. Wesley, and when I think about this extraordinary woman, she

  699. didn't wait for perfect silence. She didn't wait for ideal

  700. conditions. She made sacred space in

  701. ordinary life. Today you thought you just came

  702. to church, ordinary life, but each of you received a gift.

  703. I want you to do something really bold.

  704. I want you to put over your head, pray our photographer is

  705. roaming right now, aren't you? Put over your face, put over

  706. your head so you can't see. It's a simple symbol.

  707. It's a reminder to you that you can make space with God in every

  708. single season, in any moment of any day.

  709. Now, for those of you who are sat in our auditorium around a

  710. woman with a tea towel covering her head, I'm going to ask if

  711. you would go and lay hands on this woman.

  712. We as a church are going to pray for our mothers, our wives, our

  713. daughters, our grandmothers, our sisters, or any special woman

  714. that you are sat beside this morning.

  715. And we're going to place our hands on her shoulders and begin

  716. to pray a blessing over her. But I want to pray something

  717. else as well. Pastor Soraya unpacked in this

  718. beautiful moment on the panel that for those of you who desire

  719. or so desire to have a an incredible relationship with

  720. their Saviour, with their God through the dialogue of prayer,

  721. that this is cultivated through the Holy Spirit and through

  722. fire. And so I wonder right now, I'm

  723. not going to do it. You're going to do it.

  724. I'm going to ask that those around lay hands on and they

  725. pray for fresh fire. Fresh fire, Come on right now,

  726. somewhere you're going to stand and you're going to impart

  727. something right now. Stand and impart something.

  728. Pray and intercede. Prayer, blessing, pray fresh

  729. fire. Pray right now that this woman

  730. begins to hear the voice of God clearly because she hungers and

  731. she yearns for it. Hoora basika rabba kushika rabba

  732. rabba, fill them a fresh gone. Fill them a fresh, fill them a

  733. fresh law gone. The hunger and the yearning can

  734. be satisfied by you. And so, Lord God, this morning

  735. we pray for fresh fire in each woman.

  736. Would you stir that flame? Would you move it from a kindle

  737. to a burning fire that cannot be quenched, but to spend time with

  738. you? Lord God, I pray now for each

  739. and every woman that they would receive clarity when they speak

  740. from you, that they would receive direction, that they

  741. would receive peace, that they would receive an understanding

  742. of things that they do not understand.

  743. Revelation from your word as they pray, God, I pray God right

  744. now that women sitting here this morning who might even even feel

  745. strange sitting with their faces covered would come face to face

  746. with their Savior. Face to face with their Father,

  747. face to face with the one who loves them dearly, face to face

  748. with your glory. Lord God, that they would be

  749. marked by you God, they would be marked.

  750. We pray for a fresh impartation on your women.

  751. Would we call them this morning? And we prophesied this morning

  752. that they would be a praying generation of women who will

  753. bear witness to not only a move of God in this nation, but their

  754. children will rise up and call them blessed and know how to

  755. speak with their God because they've witnessed these women

  756. walk it out diligently day by day, cultivating relationship

  757. with you. God bless their households,

  758. bless their motherhood, bless their families, restore what is

  759. broken, restore what is broken, and let them live out the

  760. promises that you have for each and every one of them in Jesus

  761. mighty name, Amen, Amen. Amen.

  762. Amen.