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Real Talk Friday - Daniel Cunningham
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Welcome to Real Talk Friday with your hosts Rohan Das and Gus Urban.
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In this groundbreaking podcast segment, we delve deep into the lives of individuals whose
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journey has been profoundly transformed by their faith.
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From the trial of adversity to the triumph of redemption, we explore real stories, real
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people whose encounter with God has reshaped their existence.
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Join us as we embark on a candid and enlightening journey where authenticity meets spirituality
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every Friday on Real Talk Friday, part of Logan City Christian Church.
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Hello and welcome to another episode of Real Talk Friday.
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Thank you for joining us and thank you for all those views, all those comments and all
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those shares that you've made to our videos.
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We are truly, truly blessed.
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We have another great interview lined up today and we'll just get straight into it because
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this man has travelled all the way to be in the studio to do this shooting and here he
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is Daniel Cunningham, am I right?
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But you like to be called Dan.
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Yeah, Dan's easy.
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Does that make sense?
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Dan's easy.
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Very good.
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So, Dan, tell us about yourself because we want to know who you are and our viewers want
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to know.
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We know a little bit about yourself, but give us a brief introduction on who you are, what
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you do.
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That would be great.
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Sure.
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So, we're a ministry from Deliverance Down Under, which is the ministry of myself and
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my wife that we put together just over a couple of years ago now.
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So we're a full-time ministry.
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We do street evangelism, mostly in Fortitude Valley here in Brisbane, which I like to call
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the Sodom and Gomorrah of Brisbane.
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Absolutely.
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In a lovingly way, you know?
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And also we do Jesus Testimonies on YouTube and social media.
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Oh, that's amazing.
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Yeah.
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And we actually film people's stories of how they came to know Jesus.
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So keep a lookout for your faces on there as well.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Coming up.
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And then another big part of our ministry is deliverance and healing.
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So we actually go around and we participate in teaching churches and everything, biblically
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perspective on deliverance and healing.
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And then we go around and pray for those people who need it as well.
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So that's another big part of our ministry.
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And my wife and I, we've been married nearly two years next month.
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And we have a one-year-old daughter.
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Beautiful.
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Beautiful.
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And yeah, that's me.
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Oh, that's a lot.
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And for the viewers, if you haven't seen the channels, which is also called DDU, Deliverance
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Down Under, please go pop onto YouTube, Instagram and see some of the beautiful testimonies.
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It's gone all around the world, some of your videos, and it's become so, so famous.
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So yeah, I mean, it's incredible what the ministry you're doing.
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But thank you for joining us.
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We'll get into your story shortly.
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But as we always do in our new season, we talk about global news, especially in the
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Christian community.
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And we have an interesting one today, isn't that Gus?
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We do.
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For you out there, you obviously know that the Paris Olympics are on.
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There's been quite a lot of controversy out in the news, where I guess probably the biggest
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one we see how they've tried to re-illustrate the Last Supper with trans people.
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So we talk about blasphemy and where this world really is.
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I mean, it's right there.
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It's all, I mean, right there in front of our eyes to see where the world is.
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So yeah, Rohan, you want to read us out a statement?
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Yeah, yeah.
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So just to add to that, I think we all know that it's persecution to its Christian people.
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And there's no doubt in that one.
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We don't want to delve more into what has happened in the Paris Olympics because we
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know what happened.
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We know exactly what happened.
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But what we found interesting was a statement given by Thomas Jolly, who is the opening
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ceremony creative director.
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And this is what he said, I did not intend to be subversive or to mock or shock.
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I wanted to say that with this big name.
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Last night, there were Republican ideas, inclusive ideas, ideas of kindness, of generosity, of
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solidarity, which I think we desperately need.
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In France, we are allowed to love who we want, how we want.
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In France, we can believe or not believe.
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In France, we have a lot of rights.
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And I wanted to convey those values throughout the ceremonies.
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So that was allegedly an apology to the Christian community.
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And I don't know how that goes.
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What are your thoughts on that, Dan?
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My thoughts.
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So yeah, a couple of scriptures come to mind.
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That's all I can really think about when I'm thinking about the situation.
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And the first one is about to not participate in the works of evil, but to expose the works
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of darkness.
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And I think a lot of people have done a really good job of that.
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But then there's also what we were talked about off camera this morning is we wrestle
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not against flesh and blood, against powers and principalities and so on.
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So it's a spiritual battle.
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And so a lot of the blame goes on the people, but we need to remember that it's the spirits
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behind it that's influencing them.
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And one big thing that I haven't really heard anyone call out is that the people, the drag
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queens and the trans people who are involved in this are also actually victims.
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And a lot of people maybe haven't thought about it that way, but they are victims of
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demonic oppression and possession.
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And they're actually, their spirit is actually crying out for help and freedom because they're
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essentially locked in a prison that they aren't even aware of.
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And so Jesus came to set the captives free, not only the prisoners free.
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So the way I like to describe this is prisoners are people who did something wrong and they
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belong in jail because they've been sentenced to jail.
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But there's also captives who were captured.
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They didn't do anything wrong, but they were captured.
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And so they were in prison that way.
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And so Jesus came to set both of those people free.
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And so some of these people are prisoners, some of these people are captives.
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And so I really want to approach it from that angle is like these people need freedom, they
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need salvation just as much as anybody else.
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Everybody has potential to be saved by Jesus Christ, be healed and delivered.
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And so that's what we should be praying for.
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That's not to say that we shouldn't expose the works of evil.
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We should definitely be doing that as well, but we need to be praying for these people
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for their salvation, their freedom.
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Yeah, agreed.
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Yeah, and that's my main take on it, I guess.
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Yeah, 100%.
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I really feel I'm glad you said that because that's where I really felt the Holy Spirit
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wanted to lead it.
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Because we see so many people have different opinions.
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Some people say, I'm respectfully boycotting the Olympics because of what happens.
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Some are angry and some are just going way over the top where they're abusing and making
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fun of those people that, you know, those trans people.
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And I guess really what we want to bring here is, well, what's the right response?
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And one, we need to understand just like what you said, about how a lot of these people,
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they never had a Christian home like me.
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They don't, they've never known truth, they're searching for truth.
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In their search for truth and what's going to satisfy them, they've stumbled upon this.
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They're captives in this.
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They're probably feeling worse and worse day by day.
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And then to have like them being mocked around the world isn't the right response.
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Like you said, we wrestle not against flesh and blood.
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I really want to ask people, born again believers, what's our hearts cry?
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What are we praying for?
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What are we really believing for?
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Are we, do we have a heart where we just want to rebuke or can we get on our knees and pray
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for these people who are captives of Satan that need deliverance, that need saving by
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the grace of God?
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And so I sort of feel that as the Church of Jesus Christ, our response has to be a godly
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response.
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We look at Jesus going through the towns in His day, is that the ones that were drawn
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to Him were the sinners and the ones that He rebuked were the religious leaders that
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were hypocrites.
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And so I feel that we shouldn't be hypocrites, but we should be drawing in sinners into the
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light of Christ.
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And yeah, that's sort of where I'm at with it.
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That's my take on it.
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And I guess, as you said, you do street evangelism.
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And in order to do street evangelism, you've got to have the heart of God.
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You get spat on, sworn at, abused.
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And we're not to end up in an argument or a fight or anything like that.
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We're there to share the love of God.
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And Jesus did that by laying down His life.
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Yourself and your wife and others do that every Saturday night, is it?
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Friday night, Saturday?
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Friday, it kind of changes.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But you're out there in the Sodom and Gomorrah.
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You would be seeing trans people, gay people, drunk people, people on drugs.
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Everyone is there, and it's only by the love of God in your heart to be able to share and
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continually be abused and keep sharing.
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So I don't know, that's sort of what I feel.
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No, you're completely right.
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And I think that people need to know true love.
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And true love is what's taught in the Bible.
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Unfortunately, people don't know true love.
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Even the statement is like, we want to love everyone.
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But what's the right way to love?
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God teaches us that.
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But at the end of the day, I want to read a verse from John 15, 18, right up to verse
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20.
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And it says, if the world hates you, you know that it hated me before it hated you.
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If you were of the world, the world would love its own.
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Yet because you're not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the
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world hates you.
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Remember the word that I said to you.
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A servant is not greater than his master.
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If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you.
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If they kept my word, they will keep yours also.
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And that sums up the Sydney Olympics, Paris Olympics.
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That is exactly what the Bible talks about.
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Yeah, yeah.
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No, exactly.
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I want to look at the fruit of the approach for a second.
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So if we come in with that religious condemning approach, what's the fruit of that?
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Okay.
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Everyone feels mocked.
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Those people feel worse.
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They already feel really bad about themselves, right?
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That's why they're so confused in that position in the first place.
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Now they feel even worse.
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Who knows where that could lead?
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It could lead to the end of their life.
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Seriously, that's the fruit of that approach.
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What's the fruit of the approach of approaching in love with truth?
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Obviously, truth is love as well.
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If we approach with loving truth and say, Hey, you know, there's a path out of this.
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There's hope in Jesus Christ.
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The fruit of that is that those people could give their life to Jesus, get saved, healed
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and delivered, become testimony against what they were in and things start changing.
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And we see that in the Bible time and time again.
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Examples, that's what Jesus did.
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And so that's the fruit that we're looking for, if that makes sense.
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No, 100%.
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That's perfect.
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That's, I guess, that's what we want to bring forth today for our viewers is a right response.
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And that's the right response.
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Love with truth.
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Obviously, when it comes to God's love, you can't separate truth from that.
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Sometimes they reject truth, which is love.
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But you know, at the end of the day, we are to present that truth and love, they go together.
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Yeah.
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So, no, thank you for that.
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That's perfect.
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Thank you so much.
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That was a great, great discussion.
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I think our viewers loved it.
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I can already say.
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Yeah.
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Well, let's go to your story because I know you have an incredible story and that's what
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we're here for, to hear your testimony of how you're doing such great things for the
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ministry now.
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But there's a journey behind it and we want to know this journey.
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So tell us about your little bit.
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We'll go dive right in.
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Just tell us about your childhood, how you grew up and whether you knew Jesus at that
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point of your life.
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Sure.
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Yeah, just a heads up.
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It's a wild story.
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There's crazy things in there.
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I don't expect everyone to just believe everything because I always, sometimes even I look back
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on my life and like, I cannot believe that happened.
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But I really want to encourage you guys as well.
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Don't be afraid to ask questions if something weird comes up because otherwise I'll just
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ramble.
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I don't want to ramble my whole story.
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But it starts with, I was born in a small town in New Zealand and my mom came from a
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bit of like sort of Anglican religious background, but also a bit of like divination and witchcraft
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kind of mixed in with the works.
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And so she was taught things, like scrying in the pendulums and the crystals and all
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that kind of stuff and spirituality and the universe and a bit of new agey kind of stuff
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from early age.
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One story I always tell is that she, instead of taking me to the playground and play with
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the kids, she used to take me to the cemetery to essentially speak with the spirits in the
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cemetery and the graves and stuff like that.
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And I used to look back on those memories fondly and I always thought my mom was quirky.
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And when I go to school and tell people, no one would believe me, you're crazy.
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I'm like, no, no, no, that's just, you know, but you know, I love my mom and I have a really
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good relationship now and there's been so much there and I'll get to that.
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But my dad's side of the family were, well, still are Jehovah's Witnesses.
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So they run, my uncle runs, like he's one of the leaders in the Kingdom Hall, which
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is there like church essentially in New Zealand in that region.
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And my whole family is pretty much in there on the dad's side.
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My dad was the only one who didn't really get caught up in it, but he went to England
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to be a professional soccer player, got mixed up in drugs, got kicked out, came back to
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New Zealand, ended up with rolling with the bike gangs, ended up in prison a couple of
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times.
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I don't know all the details.
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I just know the really simple version of it.
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So that's basically, you know, that side.
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And so that's how the family really wanted to take me in at a young age because they
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wanted me to come into the, you know, into Jehovah's Witnesses.
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My mom wasn't having it.
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Long story short, a couple of things happened and we decided to move to Australia.
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I was only like five or six years old at the time.
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So we moved over, we lived with my auntie and it was a bit of a financial struggle because
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at the time we left it, sold everything, the New Zealand dollar, the Australia dollar was
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really poor.
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So we came with very little.
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My mom, you know, she had my sister not long after that and she, a single mother of two
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children and she worked really, really hard.
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At one point she had like three different jobs.
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And so she worked really hard to provide for us and she had a lot of struggles, a lot of
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challenges and I guess she was seeking healing.
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She needed a lot of healing because she'd been through so much.
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And so she tried to find that in, I guess, new age and Buddhism, spiritualism.
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So she went into yoga, she studied under like a lot of really big yoga masters and she did
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kinesiology.
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She became a part of a Chinese Buddhist temple for 10 years.
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And she would do things like manifestation, crystals, all that stuff, spells and yeah,
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just everything you can think of, meditating paintings, spiritual paintings and pretty
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much everything you can think of.
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And for me, I saw that and I could see that she was seeking healing, but from my perspective,
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for her things seem to, from my perspective seem to get worse.
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And it was like she was going down these rabbit holes.
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So for me, I'm like, okay, that's not what I want.
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It doesn't look like that would work for me.
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So I'm going to look at something else.
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And by this time I'm in high school, I've been bullied a lot, but I, so I was actually
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quite shy as well, a bit of an outcast and I wanted to overcome that.
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So I started getting involved in self-help.
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Now, for those of you who don't know self-help, it's like all red pilling these days.
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Maybe you could associate it with that.
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But back then, this is, I'm talking like mid 2000s.
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It was, it's sort of a door into like new age as well.
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Yes.
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I have heard it explained like that.
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Yeah.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Because there's a lot of things taken from new age to, to convince yourself to be a better
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version of yourself, right?
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And that could be manifesting your own reality, becoming your own powerful God of your own
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reality thing.
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I started picking up things like hypnotism and NLP, neuro-linguistic programming to manipulate
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and control people for my own benefit.
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Wow.
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And these are the starts of the techniques I'm starting to pick up and I start to see
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results and it's working.
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I'm like, oh.
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Can you say that again of what you were in, in order to control and manipulate?
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Yep.
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What was it that you're doing?
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Neuro-linguistic programming.
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Okay.
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Yep.
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So that it's, it's a bit of a pseudo science.
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It's ridiculous.
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Anyone who did any sort of genuine like tests on it would probably come up stumped.
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Yep.
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But there is a spiritual aspect to it that non-believers wouldn't understand that, that
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brings genuine results.
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Yep.
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And so, but even when I later on, when I worked in marketing, there was people who had like
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a degree sort of paper in neuro-linguistic programming.
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So it's also, it's a social engineering thing as well.
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So social engineering is like a lot of people use that in hacking, for example, like I was
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learning a lot of these techniques as well, where you call up a business pretending to
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be someone or so on.
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And a lot more of that comes into my story later on as well.
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But so I start picking up all these techniques and to be honest, most of it I was using to
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pick up girls.
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There was a book called The Game that's very famous at the time.
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And that had, that was a big doorway and there was other things as well, but that was one
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of the major doorways into it.
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And so I used to go into the city, you know, based on this book, I used to go in the city
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and I was very shy, but I would approach a group of people or women and see how long
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I could stay in conversation before they, these guys, we get out of here.
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And I would learn like magic tricks and hypnosis and all these things.
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So interesting of a person that, that wherever I went, people had to receive me because I
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was so way more interesting than anything they were doing.
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That's the whole point.
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And so that prepared me for sales and I actually started getting into like sales and marketing.
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As I get into my early twenties, I was also working in nightclubs.
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So I got to practice a lot of the stuff working nightclubs as well.
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And I also on the side, I was really into media.
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So I started making like cartoons and videos and all this stuff on the side as a hobby.
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And I was trying to turn that into a business, into a side business.
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And I remember one day I was like, I was like praying to the universe or something, you
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know, whatever spiritual thing was going to answer me.
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And I said, okay, how, what can I name this media business of cartoons and videos and
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stuff?
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And I hear this name in my head.
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It says Natas productions.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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And I thought about, wait, that's Satan backwards.
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Oh, no way.
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Oh, wow.
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I was like, Satan, are you the one answering me?
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And I felt like it was a yes.
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So in that moment, I made it a deal.
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I guess you could say using quotation marks for people listening with Satan to name it
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that.
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So I named it Natas productions.
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And actually I was doing like a university style course at the time.
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I got like number one in everything using that, you know, system and everything.
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And so, but I didn't actually follow that path.
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I got caught up in a, in a professional career of sales.
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I just got pulled into that.
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And I ended up working at all these major tech companies.
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So Google, Tesla, Amazon.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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When I worked at Tesla, I got to meet Elon Musk.
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I did, you know, I was always number one.
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Like I was always getting the one getting promoted, always number one in the top of
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the sale boards for everything.
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Like by far, like it wasn't even a close margin because I was using a lot of these techniques
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that I had learned.
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And it was just like giving me this supernatural advantage over everyone by far, but it was
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very exploitative.
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It was very deceitful.
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It was very, you know, I knew it wasn't good.
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What I was doing, you know, you could feel it's not, not the right way to do things,
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but it produces results.
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Yeah.
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And that's all businesses care about.
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Would you, would you say that you actually sold your soul to the devil?
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I think what Satan does is he tries to make you think that that's what you're doing.
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And maybe you're giving like what we call a legal right in that sense.
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It's kind of like a legal contract that you make.
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But the thing is like, Jesus can break any, anything like Jesus overalls, anything Satan
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tries to do.
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Yeah, for sure.
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So it's kind of like, it's convincing you that's what it is so that you feel, cause
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a lot of these celebrities that do that and they genuinely do do that.
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They make a deal with the devil in one way or another.
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Some people go really far on that side of things, but, and they make a sacrifice to
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Satan.
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People go really far on these things.
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And the idea is to trap them into thinking that I made this deal, there's no way out
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of it.
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Yeah.
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I can't.
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But in reality, Jesus can break any.
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That's right.
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And that's really good because there's so many people, some might be listening to this
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testimony right now and they know they're going through that path and they're like,
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there's no way out, but there is a way out.
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Yeah.
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I just want to let the viewers or anyone listening, there is a way on that's through Jesus.
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Yeah.
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Jesus is infinitely more powerful than Satan and all in every way.
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So yeah, praise God.
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So from there, yeah, I also had a startup, a tech startup in between, but timeline's
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getting a little fuzzy.
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I was working for Google then did a tech startup called ASAP with a couple of other guys.
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And it was basically similar to Uber Eats, but everything, not just food.
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Yeah.
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And we were sort of the first ones to do it in Australia.
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This was in Sydney.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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And so we built up this pretty big tech company.
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You know, we're first to have the app and everything.
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Wow.
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And we're doing all these deals.
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We were on Shark Tank that, you know, the TV show.
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Yeah, it's really embarrassing.
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You're watching now because they tried to make us look bad, even though we tried to
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look at that.
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That's the first thing I'm doing after the show.
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No, it's funny, long story short, there's some shenanigans that happened behind the
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scene and one of the sharks, the guy, so they like look into you before you go on the show.
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And they had invested in our competitor at the time.
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Oh, no way.
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And that was, yeah, anyway.
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So we did well on the show, but the way they edited it to make us look bad, even because
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they were like, you guys, because one mistake we made is we said we could deliver anything
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in 60 minutes.
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We had another tagline, anything on demand, which we should have gone with on demand.
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Yeah, because like 90 something percent of our orders were under 60 minutes.
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We shouldn't use that tagline.
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That's a mistake we made.
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But they're like, there's no way you guys can do that.
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One of the guys on the Shark Tank, Glenn, he owns Pet Barn, a massive pet store.
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And he goes, let's test it right now.
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And they make it look all dramatic and whatever.
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He orders it and we deliver in 33 minutes.
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But actually the guy came in 20 minutes, but he had to go through makeup and sign all contracts
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before they let him on the show.
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So they delayed him even more.
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But so realistically, you would have done it in like 20 minutes, but it ended up being
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33 minutes, half the time that we were promising.
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So we actually, even though they were attacking us the whole time, we actually looked really
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good.
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But then they edited it to make us look bad.
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Oh, no way.
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Anyway, that's all I've forgiven them.
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The power of editing.
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No, but that's a whole nother thing.
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Anyway, but during that time we got a really good look behind the curtain of how business
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and politics and powerful people influence society.
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Because we got investors, the way I like to explain it is that it's kind of like the modern
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day Coliseum with startups where the powerful kings and the powerful people, they choose
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their startups that they like and they throw them in the Coliseum to battle it out for
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money and investment.
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And they bring people in based on their loyalty and are you willing to do these?
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So they'll give us tests, go out and do this if you're successful in this or a lot of corporate
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espionage if you spy on these people at this meeting and you do this.
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No way.
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And so there's a lot of initiations into these secret societies essentially of startup world
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and things like this.
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And you can see the ones that play that game really well, they rise to the top.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Unnaturally quickly.
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And I don't want to drop some names on here, but a lot of companies that we worked in the
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same building with like Canva, Airtasca, Buzzfeed and many others that we're working with, we
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saw some of these rise to the top in an unnatural way because of their relationships.
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You know that old saying it's not what you know, but who you know?
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That's a big part of it as well.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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But I'm not making excuses for our own failure.
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We made so many mistakes and that business model is not even sustainable.
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So you look at Uber Eats and they're still not even profitable like they're still losing
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money.
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It's all about capital and it's all about their stock price and stuff like that.
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So it's not even about making money.
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But we made a lot of mistakes due to our own failure.
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We collapsed a few years in and then so I moved to Tesla, I was at the top of the sales
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board for Tesla making good money, Elon Musk, all that stuff, driving Teslas before they
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were cool.
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That was awesome.
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Went to Amazon after that, again, really one of the highest positions in the product positions
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there making almost $200,000 a year.
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And throughout this whole time, you know, I'm sleeping with someone new every week.
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You know, I'm spending my entire paycheck monthly the day before I get the new pay.
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It's like I've spent all my money.
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You know, ridiculous amounts of money.
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I just spend it all on, you know, drugs, partying, women, toys, you know, whatever it is.
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Like just trying to fill that hole and trying to keep myself going, you know, because that
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emptiness on the outside, you know, people were very envious of my life.
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Like this guy's got everything, you know, I don't know if you heard that show Suits,
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like Harvey Specter, he's like the main character.
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I'm very charismatic, has everything, you know, that's what people saw my life as.
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But on the inside, I was so broken, you know, and I was just trying to cover all of that,
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trying to keep myself going, trying to medicate myself.
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And I'm still doing a lot of these spiritual practices, especially that I picked up, you
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know, in the business world, because a lot of the people that are really powerful in
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the business world behind the curtain, are all doing the same stuff as well.
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And that was one of the reasons why we did so well for a while is because they recognize,
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oh, you guys know what you do.
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Oh, you're already doing this NLP stuff.
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Oh, you're already aware of this spiritual practice.
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Oh, you're already, you know, manifesting your realities.
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Like these are the things that everyone's doing, whether they admit it publicly or not.
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A lot of them do admit it now.
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And you know, we used to do crazy stuff like we used to walk into, so I got just going
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back for a second to when we had that startup, we used to do crazy things like we'd put on
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a suit.
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This was before COVID.
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So you could get away with this, walk through Sydney city, go into every building and just
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start opening doors, pressing all buttons on elevators, walking in.
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And we would just find ourselves in the most insane, ridiculous situations where we'd meet
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like powerful people.
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What I realized in hindsight is we've been led by something spiritual.
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Into those places because we would meet people in rooms, like we would walk into a room at
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the perfect time.
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There'd be a meeting of all these people and they'd be like, who are you guys?
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And we're just, I don't know.
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We just, we just ended up here and they're like, Oh, perfect time.
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Come sit and have a chat.
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And then, and they'll love us because nobody else would do that kind of stuff.
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And they would love that moxie, you know, they would call it.
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They love that.
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Yeah.
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They'll, they'll love people that had the boldness to do something like that.
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So they'll sit down and have time with us.
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Yeah.
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But I know now that we're being led by something for those, cause there's not coincidences,
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you know, things like that.
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Oh, for sure.
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Yeah.
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So I was doing a lot of these spiritual practices still even, um, you know, at Amazon, it got
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to the point I had a demon summoning book.
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So I had a book with like hundreds of different demons, how to summon them, what to summon
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them for, what to watch out for, you know, I'd done other spiritual practices like astral
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projection and stuff like that.
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And I'd seen, I left my body.
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I'd seen a demon jump into my body.
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I came back in my body, my personality changed from that day.
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Like I encountered demonic spirits many times through these spiritual practices.
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And when people teach you these things, they warn you about it too.
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Oh wow.
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Even the people who are advocates of it say, Oh, careful, careful.
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Cause you don't know what can happen, but you should still do it.
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Cause it's fun.
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Yeah.
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And these are big business people, celebrities, you name it.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And it's like that everybody's looking for a higher power.
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Everyone's looking for the truth.
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Everyone's looking for, um, you know, evolution.
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It got, man, there's so much delusion in it as well.
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Like that's a big thing of how Satan traps people is a delusion because it, it, so much
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pride comes in and got to the point where I literally thought at one point, I literally
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believed that I was an evolved human.
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Like I wasn't a homo sapien, sapien, like everyone else.
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I was a homo sapien, sapien, sapien.
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It was something I was like the next level of evolution because I was so advanced compared
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to everyone else that I knew.
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Like that's the delusion that was so ridiculous now.
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And that's what a lot of these people believe a lot of celebrities, politicians and so on.
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They get caught, they get trapped in that delusion as well, whether they admit it or
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not that that's what they believe on the inside.
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Would you say you were like more kind of sensitive to these things just because you grew up with
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your mom doing this, so you were more sensitive to the whole spiritual realm and you know,
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because you've, you're kind of like, cause, cause not many people grew up in that kind
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of environment and or they get into that environment later on in their life.
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But you being, you know, since you were a child, you were seeing this happen.
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Would you say you were like more sensitive to these things?
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For sure.
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That's a big part of it.
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I think it's generational as well.
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I think that's a big part of it, but the way I look at it is like, I was constantly exposed
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to spiritual experiences over and over again till the fact, till the point I'm like, it's
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undeniable.
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I think most people, they, everyone has spiritual experiences in their life.
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Even if they're atheists, they don't even believe in the spirit.
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They've had experiences.
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And I think when people have those experiences, they, they purposely try to shove it to the
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back of their mind.
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They don't want to think about it.
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They want to avoid it.
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They want to run away from it.
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And maybe they've had three or four or five or 10 big spiritual experiences in their life,
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but they've completely avoided it, shut it down, you know, made excuses for whatever.
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And so they really struggle.
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Maybe they become a Christian later on in life or, or they hear stories like mine and
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they just refuse to believe it.
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But the people who have had it validated through their whole life, through seeing the result,
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the fruit of it and all that stuff, like it's, it's undeniable.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And that's one of the things that led me to Jesus as well.
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So, okay, let's talk about that.
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Like what, how you got led to Jesus because, you know, to me, when I hear your story, you
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were so, um, you saw into this whole demonic realm.
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Uh, you got so caught up in that, you know, um, kind of, I would say in that delusion,
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as you said, how did Jesus come into your life and change all that?
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Let's want to know that.
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Sure.
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So, um, one of the tricks that demons have up their sleeve is that they convince you
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that they're not good or evil.
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They convince you that everything's in a gray area.
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And so like, so I had this delusion, this belief, and one of my favorite quotes was
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from Shakespeare as well, who would have been influenced by this too.
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There's no such thing as good or evil, but thinking makes it so.
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So if you pull that apart, nothing, there's no objective good or bad.
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It's just whatever you believe.
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And a lot of people believe in subject reality now.
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It's everywhere now.
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Yeah.
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And you know, the first thing that comes to my mind when you talk about that is the Bible
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verse where, you know, Jesus actually talks about, you cannot be in the middle.
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It's, yeah, I can't remember which verse that is.
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Like you'd rather be hot or cold, but don't be lukewarm.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So that's the first thing that comes into my mind when I hear that.
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So that's where I was.
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And so I didn't believe in good or evil.
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And so I didn't believe in things like marriage.
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So I'd be sleeping with married women because I didn't believe in marriage.
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I didn't believe in objective reality.
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It was always subjective, which is a dangerous place to be.
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But it got to the point when COVID hit and something in my spirit just goes, there's
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evil behind this one way or another.
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I don't know where it is, but there's something wrong about this.
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And I just thought, okay, is, is that, am I wrong?
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Is there an objective good and evil?
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And what does that look like?
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How are we supposed to know that as humans?
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You know, I never used to be able to sleep because I'd have demonic attacks all the time.
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And I would be up late just thinking about what's the truth of the universe.
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And I could never figure it out.
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And I'd called out to God many times in my life, but from the wrong place, from a place
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of pride.
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Like, God, you have to show me who you are.
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If you're real, you need to show me right.
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You know, from anger and stuff.
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He never answered me.
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But this time I was depressed.
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I was questioning my reality.
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I was sort of about ending my life even.
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That's where I was.
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Because I realized none of this stuff was filling that hole in my soul, that hole in
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my heart.
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You know, nothing would fill it.
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So I thought, okay, if I end my life right now, and heaven and hell are real, I'm 100%
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going to hell.
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Like, there's no question.
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And so I go, okay, God, I was alone in my apartment.
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I say, okay, God, if you're real, like, I'll surrender it all to you.
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You show me how to get me out of this, like rescue me from this.
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And for the first time in my life, I reached out to him in a humble, I surrendered for
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the first time.
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So I always get emotional talking about this part.
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But yeah, I was just standing up and I was calling out to him.
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I never really read the Bible before.
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I found this later in the book of Acts, but the Holy Spirit came as a wind.
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And my doors were closed, my windows were closed, but there was like a physical wind,
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but a spiritual wind at the same time.
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It brought me to my knees and I just was like broken, just in tears.
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And just in my head, it's like all the sin was laid out before me.
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Like everything that I've ever done wrong, every mistake, every sin, that things I didn't
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even know were bad, were sinful, was all laid out before me in an instant.
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And I was overwhelmed with shame and guilt for that.
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But then forgiveness came and love came and just completely removed all of that.
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And I heard a voice in my head to say, don't worry, it's me, Jesus, I've got you.
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And Jesus was the last name I was calling out to God, but I didn't know, I just, you
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know, God created a universe.
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I didn't expect to hear Jesus.
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And I, Jesus, like, and it just, it just, truth just hit me.
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And I just like, I just knew it was him straight away.
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It was completely black and white.
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It was like, no idea it was Jesus to a hundred percent.
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No question is Jesus.
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Like it was supernaturally revealed to me in that moment.
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And I just started repenting of everything.
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I was just repenting of absolutely everything and just the truth of God hit me.
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And then I was like, I've got to read the Bible and my name is Daniel.
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I didn't know where to start.
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So I know there's a book of Daniel.
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I'll start reading that.
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So I started reading it and I, again, I hear this voice in my head.
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Yes, Daniel, this is my word.
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It's all true.
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You need to stick to everything that's in this book.
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And I go, okay, I was reading it on my phone.
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So I ordered a cross and a Bible.
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And coincidentally, I think it was the next day or a couple of days later, we had like
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curbside trash collection.
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So I just gathered everything like my demon summoning book, all this drugs, all this bad
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stuff that I shouldn't have and put it into a pile and heaps of stuff out of my apartment.
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And I just put it on the trash collection.
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And that was it.
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Changed in that moment.
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A bit of repentance right there.
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There was no adding Jesus to your life, your lifestyle changed.
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Everything changed.
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Everything in a moment.
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And look, some, some things took a little time.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know, porn took a little while to quit.
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I knew it was wrong, but I didn't understand the depth of what it really was.
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And you know, that took a little time.
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It took me three months to quit smoking weed.
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That took a little time.
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The Lord supernaturally showed me what happens when I was smoking weed.
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And that was the last time I ever did it.
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Video games, even I was playing this game called Dota 2, which is filled with demons
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and witches and warlocks and stuff.
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And the Holy Spirit was telling me for a week straight, delete the game, delete this game.
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I kept ignoring it, ignoring it, ignoring it.
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Then one night I was sleeping and the Father's voice in the Bible is described like thunder
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and trumpets, right?
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Yeah, yeah.
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I was having a dream and I heard the Father's voice like thunder and trumpets so loud, it
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shook everything to my core.
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The most terrifying, like piercing thing I've ever heard in my life.
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And it was in a dream, but it woke me up and I could still hear it as I was waking up.
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He said, Daniel, delete the game right now.
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And it was the only night I was sleeping in bed with the laptop in bed with me.
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And so I've never done anything quicker.
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I delete the game.
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I've never played that again.
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And I needed that because the Holy Spirit was trying to, you know, I was ignoring him
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for a week and then the Father was like, bam.
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Isn't that funny?
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As a father, there have been times like with my kids, I'm like, hey, stop that, stop that.
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And all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm serious.
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You need to stop.
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That's what it felt like.
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And I needed that as well because I didn't understand the relationship with the Father
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as well that he's not only a loving father, but a father who corrects.
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And that's so important.
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It took me a while to understand that relationship because I grew up without a father.
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So the Holy Spirit and Jesus, you know, God manifest in that way was easier for me, but
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I struggled with the relationship with the Father for a while as well.
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And then everything changed from there.
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I was living in Sydney.
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I said, okay, I'm going back to Brisbane.
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I'm going to tell everyone about Jesus.
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Everyone's going to give their life to Jesus.
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Everyone's going to get saved.
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No one cared.
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Okay, good for you.
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There was one friend who listened to me actually.
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And we ended up baptizing him like six months ago.
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Awesome.
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So that was really cool.
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And he used to tell me about he was the only one in my life in high school who used to
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tell me about Jesus because he had a cultural background, but he didn't really believe.
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Oh, right.
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I came full circle.
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And then not long after moving back to Brisbane, I reconnected with Victoria, who's now my
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wife.
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She was an old friend.
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She used to date one of my friends back when we used to party and work in the nightclubs.
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So she knew who I was before.
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And I think that's important as well.
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And we had reconnected and it was quite clear the law was bringing us together for marriage.
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And we struggled to keep it holy and everything, but we did it, we managed to sustain abstain
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from sex before marriage and things like that.
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It was very difficult, but many times God spoke to us.
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And one quick story, there was a time where the Lord said to me in prayer said, Daniel,
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you two are getting too close.
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You need to spend two weeks apart.
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Wow.
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Okay.
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So I called her up.
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I was debating with, you know how you try and bargain with him.
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I'm like, okay, I'm going to do one week.
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So I called up Victoria and I said, the Lord's saying we got to spend one week apart.
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And she goes, okay, okay.
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After a week, everybody got COVID.
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It ended up being two weeks anyway.
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So I repented, I apologize for that.
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So many of those moments that kept us in the right place and for marriage.
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And we, just before we got married and as we got married, we started going out on the
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street to evangelize.
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I saw a guy holding a sign once that says Jesus saves and Jesus loves you in the valley.
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And I said, I don't know what that is, but we need to do that.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah.
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So God called us there.
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We started, we were early in our faith, so we didn't know the Bible too well.
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We knew the basic gospel and we had our testimony.
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This is the place we used to party so we could connect with people.
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And so we were just telling people our testimony, Jesus changed us.
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We came from this, there's a better way Jesus saved us.
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He's so real, here's the gospel.
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And because we stepped out in obedience, God moved through that and we started seeing miracles.
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People were giving their life to Jesus.
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People were getting healed miraculously.
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There was a Satanist whose back got healed.
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There was a guy on MDMA who I prayed for, he completely instantly got sober and gave
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his life to Jesus.
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We started seeing demons being cast out of people on the street, falling to the ground,
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having demons come out.
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And so we're just like, we're like, wow, this is all real.
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Because we didn't even know if that stuff was still real because we were church hopping.
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Yeah, okay.
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One of the churches we were going to was a cessationist church and they were saying,
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oh no, the gifts are done.
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None of that's real anymore.
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It's all in your head.
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And so we were confused on that for a while, but we started seeing that happen and we're
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like, okay, no, those guys are wrong.
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This is still going on.
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Exactly right.
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And so we thought, okay, our testimony, God's moving through our testimony.
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If we record our testimonies and put it on YouTube, maybe we can reach a hundred people
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instead of 10 people on the street.
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So we filmed Victoria's testimony and within three weeks it hits a hundred thousand views.
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Wow.
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And we're like, okay, God's blessing this.
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So we started filming everyone of the evangelist team's testimonies.
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Everyone had a good testimony.
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One of them was Amelia.
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She was a stripper until she had a vision of hell.
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Oh yeah.
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That's a very famous video.
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Very famous video.
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Yeah.
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It's got nearly a million views now and that really launched us.
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We now have about 70 Jesus testimonies on our channel and it's reached like over 10
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million people.
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Yeah.
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And it's still growing very quickly to this day.
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We started a podcast.
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We're just starting this week, a evangelism channel where we've started filming the conversations
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we're having on the street.
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That's excellent.
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And we want to build a community around that because we want to encourage people to go
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out and evangelize for themselves.
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Because so many people are comfortable in the church.
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It's like, nah, it's time to get everyone out on the street.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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I mean, one of the best ways to die as a Christian is to just keep it to yourself.
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Doing the total opposite of what Jesus told us to do.
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Yeah.
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And it's like, go out into all the world and preach the gospel.
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So when we disobey, how long until our disobedience starts bearing fruit in our lives?
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Sure.
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So, I don't know.
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I find it very, I mean, most people would struggle.
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It's not that they don't want to.
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It's just intimidation is so big.
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Yeah.
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What would be something that you would say to viewers that struggle like they have that
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because I wish I could just get out there on the streets and do it, but I can't.
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What's some of the-
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Sure.
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I mean, the best thing you can do is find a community that's already doing it because
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what a lot of people get caught up in is they say to people in their church and they're
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like, oh, let's organize the time to go out on the street.
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And everyone's excited and they always talk about it.
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And then it's been like two months and they're still talking about it and no one's done anything.
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So if you're struggling to actually bring people out on the street, because a lot of
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people made that commitment and they don't show up, unfortunately, that's just the reality
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of it.
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But if you find a group that, because there's groups in every city that are doing it.
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So if you go out there, if you can't find them online, go to the places where you would
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think people would be doing it and you'll find people doing it.
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You will.
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Yeah.
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And go join them.
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I guess if you're really genuine about it, the Holy Spirit will lead you in the right
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path anyway.
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So yeah, it'll happen.
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100%.
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Yeah.
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And I just want some quick advice on ways to approach it.
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What we do is we hold signs, say Jesus saves, Jesus loves you, Jesus is the way, the truth
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and the life.
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Now we have all these different signs that appeal to different types of people that we
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can, that then draws them over for a conversation.
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We do one-on-one conversation.
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We pray for them.
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Yeah.
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But you could also street preach if you've got a microphone, if you can find a place
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to do that.
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Some people do worship.
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They sing worship songs on the street and God, Spirit moves through that, convicts people.
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They feel the love of God.
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There's so many different approaches.
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Some people just hand out tracks.
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They don't know how to speak, but they just hand them tracks out.
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You know, so there's so many different approaches to find, find the one that you feel called
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to and really step out in faith and start doing it.
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And I always say God goes easy on you the first time.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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It gives you that bubble.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And then as you get deeper into it and more equipped and everything, then the challenges
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start coming, but that grows you.
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Yeah.
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We've had knives pulled on us.
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We've had eggs and bottles thrown at us.
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We've had people punch us, throw bikes at us, scooters, like swearing at us, laughing
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at us, teasing us, filming us.
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Everything you can imagine.
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Yeah.
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You know, we've even had like council people come and give us fines.
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And so yeah, we built relationships with these people over time and none of that stuff happens
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anymore.
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But early on when we had to actually take that territory, that's the thing is, cause
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we came in, we had to take that territory from the enemy.
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And so there was friction.
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Yeah.
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There was so much friction early on.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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But now the police walk past us, we say God bless you.
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And they wave at us and they look, you know, they look after us and the security looks
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after us.
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And like the atmosphere of the place that we've been in the last few years has completely
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changed.
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Like this is still crazy, but nowhere near like it was when we first started.
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So you can see the, you can see the fruit of that change.
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It's almost like you see in movies how there's like gang wars over turf.
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It's like that in the spiritual realm.
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Exactly.
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It's light versus darkness in a place because I remember my son used to play soccer in Bowen
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Hills and coming back we drive through the valley and there was one time he had a Saturday
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afternoon game or night game or whatever.
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Driving through the valley at that time of night was not good.
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That's like kids close your eyes.
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You know what I mean?
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So when you say Sodom and Gomorrah of Brisbane, it's literally that.
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But in saying that, God is stronger than any form of darkness, any spiritual principality
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or power and just being obedient and anointed by God, filled with the Holy Spirit, a good
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strong prayer life.
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There's that anointing to break strongholds and it's just so incredible.
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Yeah.
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And we talk to all sorts of people, like atheists, science students, trans people, gay people,
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whoever it is and we find like just giving them the time to hear them out, share the
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love of God and pray for them can change people in an instant.
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And a lot of these people that come up to mock us or attack us or argue with us, they've
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been hurt by church in the past and they think that Christians are a certain way because
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of what they've experienced.
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So our job is to show them who Jesus is, not who they've been hurt by.
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That's good.
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And that's when people change.
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And giving the time, I've had plenty of discussions with trans people for like an hour long discussion.
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I've shared my testimony, they've told me their story, what they're going through.
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I've even had words for them through the Holy Spirit prophesied over them, prayed for them
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and they're just reduced to tears and we hug for like five minutes straight because they're
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not getting love from anywhere.
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They're broken, broken, broken people.
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They've come arguing and angry and they've left with a smile on their face knowing that
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God loves them and that there's conviction of truth working in their heart and they know
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that there's a way out.
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Because a lot of people feel trapped, they feel like there's no way out but when you
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show them actually there's one way out and he can get you out of anything, once people
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understand that truth then that's when they go, okay, all right and they can make a decision.
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Yeah.
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I've seen some on YouTube, some street preachers where it's a, you're going to hell, you are
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a sinner and it's as if they've elevated themselves above the people that need help.
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By what you've shared with us and your approach and by what I've seen others do, one is condemning
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them which is, it's finished, there's no hope which is the total opposite to the gospel
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message and so by giving people time as you said, sharing the love of God and still speaking
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truth, not withholding truth but speaking truth in love, it just gives them that door
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right there, this is your way out and hope is what they receive.
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A lifetime of emptiness, closed doors, pain and only God knows what else these people
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have been through, you've just given them that one door of hope which they've probably
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never received in their life.
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Exactly, that's 100% it.
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You know, I'm going to take you back a bit just because I'm very keen to know this and
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I've read and heard stories of other people, you were into a lot of these demonic kind
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of rituals and when Jesus came, saved your life out of that, there've been times where
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I've read there was still been like, there was a resistance from the demonic realm, did
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you face that by any chance?
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Absolutely, I didn't receive deliverance until nearly eight months after that encounter with
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the Holy Spirit, where I gave my life to Jesus and so a lot of people struggle with this
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because a lot of people believe Christians can't have demons but it's not the case.
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So for me, you know, that's a whole can of worms we can get into but for me, one night
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I was led by the Holy Spirit to go to the house of one of the other evangelists who
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had been casting out demons on the street.
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I was just driving around, I feel the Holy Spirit tell me, go to his house right now
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at 10 o'clock at night and get him to pray for you.
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Okay, so I just randomly turn off at his doorstep, I'm like, the Lord told me to come here and
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ask for prayer.
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I said, I feel like there's resistance in me, I feel like the demons have left scars
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or something like that, still something, there's a residue there like, because I can let me
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pray for you.
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As soon as he puts his hand on me and starts praying, my whole body starts vibrating.
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I fall to the ground and start slithering like a snake for maybe 20 minutes, I don't
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even know how long.
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Completely supernatural, I wouldn't be able to recreate it if I tried.
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Hissing like a snake, everything slithering, he's casting, he was quite new to this as
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well.
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So he was trying to cast all these demons out and a bunch of demons came out, a bunch
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of them spoke out of me.
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You know, one of them said it had been there since the womb, since I was in the womb.
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You know, I had an encounter with Jesus in that moment where I was delivered from the
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snake, I believe it was Kundalini.
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Kundalini comes in through a lot of new age, opening chakras, yoga, all that stuff I've
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done.
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And so, yes, delivered from those things.
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And I thought I was completely free.
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I was like, so much freedom, like, but then a couple of days later, I was with that same
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brother and another pastor at their house and we were praying and I felt something again,
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like guys, there's still something there.
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A couple more hours, like hundreds of demons, hundreds of demons.
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One of them is Legion, right, from the Bible we see in Mark five, I think it is.
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So Legion is like a whole army of demons essentially that had come in.
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And it's like all these different demons speaking out of me, speaking different human
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languages, different demonic languages, different personalities, different like body movements,
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like twistings of arms and spinning around and jumping and roaring and screaming and
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all these different manifestations.
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And these demons all came out.
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And then there was a couple of other big ones that came out a few days later.
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I fasted for three days, you know, in Matthew it says, some demons only come out through
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prayer and fasting.
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I read all the Psalms in like almost one go.
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Like I was trying to really prepare myself and you know, there's a scripture about perfect
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love casts out all fear.
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And it was connecting with the love of God that I got delivered of this really big demon
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at the end that was like a bit of a strong man, you could say.
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And then I had this vision of Jesus and meeting him at the gates and it was like not much
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detail.
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It was just kind of like this impression of like him welcoming me like into heaven.
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And then after that we got called into doing deliverance because word spread and people
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around us started getting delivered and we didn't really know what we were doing.
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God threw us in the deep end.
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I was reluctant because I'm like, God, I don't want, this is scary.
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You got to take on everyone's problems.
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You got to hear their whole life story.
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You got to fight the enemy at the front.
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But the Lord spoke to me.
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He said, Daniel, I'm taking you from summoning demons to casting them out.
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Yeah.
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I said, okay, that's cool.
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I have to do it.
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So we eventually met people who mentored us through this part of ministry.
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It's a huge part of Jesus's ministry.
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Everywhere he went, he cast out demons.
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He said, if I cast out demons by the spirit of God, then the kingdom of heaven has come
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upon you.
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He did it in public.
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He did it so that people could see and demonstrate the kingdom of heaven.
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He went to synagogue to synagogue, casting out demons to the religious people, casting
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demons out of them.
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So everywhere he went and it's still happening today.
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We should still be doing it.
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Absolutely.
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And so now I work with a couple other ministries that do it regularly.
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One's called Keys to the Kingdom, Matthew and Alicia Morton.
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And we go around churches and around the country.
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We even went to New Zealand and the healing rooms and we teach on this.
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Then we actually cast demons out of people who need it.
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And we get people doing it because they've been a Christian 20 years and never cast out
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a demon.
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All of a sudden now they're casting out demons and their faith is just elevated to a new
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level.
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And it's not about chasing the miracles or chasing demons.
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It's about chasing the freedom of the people so they can have freedom and love with Jesus
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in a way that they never could before.
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And so that's a huge, we're chasing the love of people, the love of freedom of people and
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the connection with God.
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Because we get criticized like, oh, you guys are chasing demons.
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It's not about that at all.
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But we made a movie, we made a documentary called Hidden in Plain Sight with these guys.
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It's coming out later this year.
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We've done some screenings here in some of the church theaters around Brisbane.
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It's got Mike Signorelli in it, Alexander Bugani, Isaiah Saldemar.
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Yeah, it's got some big names in there.
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That's fantastic.
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Yeah, it's an incredible movie.
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It's stuff that I filmed as well from these meetings.
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One standout is a dear friend of mine.
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She was 17 at the time.
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She was in a wheelchair for a year.
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For a year, paralyzed.
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15 different medications.
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Doctor says she'll never walk again, probably, right?
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She came to a couple of these meetings.
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We're praying for her.
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We cast many demons out of her.
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She comes from a Romanian gypsy witchcraft background.
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That's where a lot of the spirits came from.
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We pray for her, cast many demons out of her, pray for her healing.
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Just like in the Bible where it says the man was paralyzed, cast out the spirit, and then
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they could walk again.
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There's great joy in the city.
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There's so many scriptures like this.
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She stood up.
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We started walking.
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She let go and she was walking for the first time by herself.
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She still had her catheter bag in, if you know what that is.
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It's like a bag and everything.
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She still had that in.
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She was walking.
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She was walking and spinning for the first time.
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Now to this day, she's lost nearly 30 kilograms.
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She's walking.
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She sent us pictures of her climbing mountains.
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She got to dance at her school formal at the end of the year.
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Her teachers and doctors are just like...
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It's a miracle.
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She stopped taking all the medication.
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That's a real miracle that we got on camera.
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There's so many of those miracles in the movie that we want people to see.
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We made the movie because too much of this stuff is happening behind closed doors.
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That's creating this vibe in the church that it has to happen behind closed doors or that
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it's not happening at all today.
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Because we would see it.
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If it was happening, we would see it in our church, but we're not, so it's not happening.
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That's just completely wrong.
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Like I said before, Jesus did it in public to demonstrate the kingdom of heaven.
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Exactly.
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If I cast out demons by the spirit of God, the kingdom of heaven has come upon you.
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It's a demonstration of the power and the kingdom of heaven, the authority.
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It's not about us.
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It's about God setting people free and just us showing up.
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How beautiful is it that we get to be a part of God enacting his will of setting people
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free and healing and all these things.
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It's just an incredible thing.
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It's incredible.
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Yeah.
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Well, thank you, Dan, for such a beautiful testimony.
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We can hear more of your testimony.
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I wish we had more time, honestly.
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I'm sure that some of our viewers would love to have you for another part two of the episode
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to share more of your testimony.
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We would like to end this podcast by you telling our viewers something from your heart.
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You've done a lot of ministry.
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You've done such miraculous healing.
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What would be something you would like to share with our viewers?
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We'd like to say you can look at the camera.
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You can tell us whatever you'd like to do, just something you'd like to share from your
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heart.
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Sure.
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Yeah.
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Thanks for the opportunity.
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The main thing I want to say is if you're a Christian, especially someone who's been
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a Christian for a long time, but you feel like you're not seeing God moving, you feel
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like you become religious or stagnant in your faith.
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Maybe you go to church every Sunday.
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Maybe you go to Bible study on the Wednesday.
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Maybe you go to fellowship on the Friday, but you just feel like you're not seeing God
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moving and you're wondering is the gifts really happening?
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Is God really moving still because you're not seeing it?
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I'm a testimony that those things are still happening and it's a huge part of what our
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faith is meant to be.
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It's supposed to be the fruit of our faith.
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We're supposed to be seeing these things happen.
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Again, it's not about the miracles, but it's about stepping out into the obedience of what
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God wants for us.
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In Mark 16, the great commission, go out and preach the gospel to all creation.
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Those who believe they will speak in your tongues, they'll lay hands on the sick, they'll
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recover, they will cast out demons in my name.
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That's the expectation that Jesus put upon believers as he left for heaven.
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That's what we should be doing.
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If you feel like you're not doing those things, make time for it.
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Start stepping out and participating in these things.
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Find people who are already doing it and step out and join them and start doing these things
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for yourself.
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I find that your relationship with God actually significantly increases because what I find
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is that the secret place, like praying in the secret place, reading God's word, those
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are two extremely powerful ways to connect with God.
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But the third one that a lot of people miss is working in the gifts of the spirit because
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when you see people get healed, when you see people get delivered to demons or you're prophesying
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or whatever, the Holy Spirit is moving through you and it's an undeniable connection to God.
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And that just increases your faith, it increases your relationship with him.
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And that's the number one thing is like my relationship with him has grown so much because
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it's undeniable like God's power and his love moving and changing people, like the change.
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And knowing like even last night I went to this beautiful family and they had been demonically
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oppressed and cast out demons from them and the love, like just seeing people set free
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from things they've been suffering from for so long and knowing that Jesus gave us the
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power and authority to do something about that.
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They don't have to be so...
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They've gone church to church to church and nothing's improved, but Jesus gave us the
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power and authority to make change through his spirit.
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And so I just want to encourage everyone out there and challenge you to go out, find the
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people doing this and start participating in what in the ministry that Jesus left for
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us as believers.
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Just quickly, for anyone that's listening this and that's the Holy Spirit speaking to
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them, is there a way they can get in contact with you?
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Like they live in the area, Brisbane area, I want to do this, I want to join what you're
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doing, is there a way they can get in contact with you?
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Yeah, best way, our website, deliverancedownunder.com or Instagram.
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We get a lot of messages from people all over the world.
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It's hard to keep up, just to be honest.
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If you don't get a response from us, hassle us until you do.
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Can I just quickly say that I'm extremely encouraged because it's not just a great testimony
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of what God's done in your life, but what he's doing now.
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And I feel I've seen a lot of testimonies of people have a great story, but it started
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and stopped then.
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There is such a journey that God wants to take us on from that miraculous point of salvation.
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So yeah, for viewers there, you might have had a great testimony, but God's not finished
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with you yet.
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Find out the will of God for your life.
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Just really say, God, God, you've saved me.
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I love you.
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You've done so many good things.
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What do you want me to do?
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And so yeah, Daniel, it's been such a blessing.
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So would you like to close our podcast in prayer?
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Yeah, I'd love to.
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Thank you.
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Yeah, Lord, Father in heaven, in Jesus' mighty name, Lord, we just come before you now in
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gratitude and thanks, Lord, that you've given us this platform, Lord, to speak out a testimony
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of you, of who you are, your character and what you're doing.
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Lord, we thank you that so many lives have been touched by what you're doing today.
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Lord, we thank you for bringing us out of the darkness.
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And I just pray that this story, this podcast, My Testimony reaches many people, Lord, to
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impact them to grow their faith, grow their relationship with you, Lord.
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I pray that people will even get saved through this, that they come to know who you are,
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who your true character is and not what they've been hurt by in the past about church or what
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other people said about you, but who you really are, Lord, I pray that your true character
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shines through, Lord, I pray that people are encouraged and emboldened to go out and preach
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the gospel of all creation, to work in your wonder working miracle power, to be a co-laborer
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with you, Lord.
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Lord, it says in your word that the harvest is plentiful, but the work is a few.
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And so we pray to the Lord of the harvest that you would send more workers out, Lord.
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And I just pray that you put a stirring on people's hearts to go and make that commitment
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now, Lord.
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Thank you, Jesus, for what you're doing.
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Thank you that you're a good, good God.
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Amen.
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Amen.
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That's great.
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Thanks, Dan, for coming to our show.
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We truly bless you.
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You have an incredible story.
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And you know, having you in our podcast has been such a great blessing.
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You're a hard man to get through.
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I'm sure everybody really wants you in their podcast.
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And we're so great that you actually have come here, given, sacrificed your time to
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do such an amazing podcast with us.
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So we do appreciate that.
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And like to thank all the viewers for, you know, helping us do this, supporting us in
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your prayer and supporting us in many ways to do this podcast.
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We're truly blessed.
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Reach out to us, as I say in every podcast, if you want to know more about God and know
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more about what He's done in our lives, we're willing to share and spend some time telling
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you how the goodness of God.
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And reach out to us if you want to know more about what we do as a church, which is the
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Logan City Christian Church, and also more about our podcast.
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We would love to, you know, share, you know, sit with you and tell you more about Jesus.
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But thank you again for joining us for a beautiful, beautiful episode two of Real Talk Friday.
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And I'm sure we're going to see you next time.
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Yeah, thanks for having me guys.
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