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Church Called Tov - People First

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  1. Well hey good morning my name is Greg Hampton I'm one of the pastors here if

  2. we've ever met I would love to meet you and maybe have a coffee with you or meet

  3. with you outside of the walls of of this church building. We are just about halfway

  4. through our series called The Church Called Tov. It's based on a book

  5. called by the same name and the subtitle is forming a goodness culture that

  6. resists abuses of power and promotes healing and I wanted to make sure that

  7. we're communicating clearly about this that we aren't doing this because we

  8. think that we are all of these things that we've achieved all of these things.

  9. The point isn't that hey we're going through this book that that is a is

  10. page by page describing everything about us. No the point is is that some of

  11. these things we are in some ways our church is very told is very good in

  12. other ways we need to keep on growing and we need to know what we think maybe

  13. God is asking the church to be like so that we know what we're inviting people

  14. to because it matters if they know that they're coming to a place that's safe

  15. for them that is a place that's going to embrace them and make them a part of the

  16. family and this is true of every church every church needs to grow in this way

  17. and so today the element of Tov of goodness that we're going to talk about

  18. is people first the people first culture that resists what's called

  19. institutional creep speaking of people first how about them fast food joints

  20. right oh yeah they're like the epitome of people first right they are the

  21. pit the pinnacle I'm gonna give you a list of places and then I'm gonna give

  22. you the year that they that they were founded and just so that you can kind of

  23. see like how long these places have been around and then I'm gonna ask the

  24. question so Arby's has been around since 1964 I don't know why everyone trashes on

  25. Arby's I like Arby's people like give it such a hard time they I like their food

  26. Burger King 1953 Domino's 1960 Dunkin Donuts 1950 KFC 1930 McDonald's 1940

  27. Pizza Hut 1958 Popeyes 1972 Sonic 1953 subway 1965 Taco Bell 1954 Wendy's 1969

  28. in White Castle the oldest of them all 1921 102 years old they they all every

  29. single one of them started small every single one of them started with one

  30. store and within most of them except for White Castle most of them actually

  31. started to expand to other stores within a year within five years they were they

  32. had many many store stores so now which one of those restaurants do you think

  33. has the highest customer satisfaction in the country any guesses Wendy's okay and

  34. which one of those that I listed do you think has the best employee experience

  35. in the country trick question none of them none of those places even cracks the

  36. top 15 McDonald's KFC Wendy's Dunkin Donuts Subway and Burger King are all

  37. listed as the worst food chains to work for in America why do we think that the

  38. people that founded those companies hoped that one day they would be so big

  39. that people would consistently have a bad experience working there or going

  40. there did they hope that the culture that had been created in those

  41. environments might leave a bad taste in the mouth of their customers or that

  42. those customers would start being treated like numbers if you go to the

  43. McDonald's that's up on 30th and 18th in Rock Island their sign is so old it

  44. says billions and billions served but it actually says aliens and aliens because

  45. the B is like been busted out and it's just like decayed so much but that

  46. speaks to how people in a way were treated like numbers look at how many

  47. people that we have served we have kept track and counted them institutional

  48. creep can be illustrated with one question how many of us feel that if we

  49. had a negative experience at any of those restaurants that our input would

  50. have a chance to affect change in that organization institutional creep is the

  51. reason that almost none of us would think that us saying something would

  52. change anything institutional creep inches us away from relationship with

  53. those that we serve and with those that we follow turns people into customers and

  54. customers into numbers it turns leaders into managers and pastors into presidents

  55. and CEOs you can find this problem in just about every part of the Bible an

  56. institutional mindset that creeps in so that God confronts kings about it and he

  57. has prophets confront priests about it Jesus confronts religious leaders about

  58. it we even see it happen with Jesus and his own disciples that he speaks to them

  59. about it because with power and position and influence with numerical or

  60. financial growth institutional creep will want to sneak in so let's open our

  61. Bibles and see what we might have to learn today I'm gonna be in two

  62. different sections I'm gonna be in Matthew 14 in Acts 6 if you don't have a

  63. Bible we have Bibles on the shelf out there they're blue on your way home

  64. today you're welcome to take one home with you and or if you'd like a digital

  65. one you can download a lot of Bibles are just free on digital app stores Matthew

  66. is the very first book what's called the New Testament or the Second Testament

  67. and then it goes Matthew Mark Luke John acts see any of those you know you're in

  68. the right neighborhood and you're welcome to turn to one or both of those

  69. and then we have a tradition that when we read the scriptures as part of the

  70. message we want to give it our full attention one of the ways that we can do

  71. that is by standing together as we are able if you prefer to sit you're welcome

  72. to do that but if you will join me in giving the scriptures your full

  73. attention now let's go ahead and read Matthew 14 starting in verse 14 when

  74. Jesus landed and saw a large crowd he had compassion on them and healed their

  75. sick as evening approached the disciples came to him and said this is a remote

  76. place and it's already getting late send the crowds away so they can go to the

  77. villages and buy themselves some food Jesus replied they do not need to go away

  78. you give them something to eat act six starting verse one in those days when

  79. the number of disciples was increasing the Hellenistic Jews among them

  80. complained against the Hebraic Jews because their widows were being

  81. overlooked in the daily distribution of food so the 12 gathered all the

  82. disciples together and said it would not be right for us to neglect the ministry

  83. of the Word of God in order to wait on tables brothers and sisters choose seven

  84. men from among you who are known to be full of the Holy Spirit and wisdom we

  85. will turn this responsibility over to them and will give our attention and

  86. prayer to the ministry of the Word let us pray

  87. God we thank you for the scriptures pray that we still have them I pray that

  88. whatever you have for us to learn today I pray that it would stick that would

  89. become a part of the framework of our faith that our faith becomes stronger

  90. that we would become more like your son Jesus amen thanks y'all you can have a

  91. seat all right so first thing I'm gonna say here is that Jesus wasn't gonna let

  92. the size of his following or the popularity of his ministry let

  93. institutional thinking creep into the way that he led or the way that his

  94. disciples were expected to care about people I say this because Jesus those

  95. those people ended up where they were because of Jesus they ended up where

  96. they were because of the disciples they ended up where they were because they

  97. wanted to be a part of what he was doing and when they were hungry Jesus took

  98. responsibility for where he had led them fast food restaurants have expanded

  99. globally it's not the customers fault that the company chose to expand they

  100. are responsible for the experience their customers and employees have most

  101. churches that grow significantly hoped that it would happen even did things on

  102. purpose to try to get it to happen so when a church grows it is still our

  103. responsibility to care for the people at 150 at 200 or more like we did when it

  104. was 50 or 75 or 100 it is still our responsibility to care I think that's

  105. the example that we see set by Jesus he doesn't just feed his disciples he just

  106. doesn't say hey you guys are the ones that are closest to me oh you're my 12

  107. you're my 72 I'll multiply enough bread and fish for you guys no he takes

  108. responsibility for every man woman and child that had followed that had shown

  109. up and he tells the leaders his disciples don't dismiss them you do

  110. something do something you do something let's we can do something now act six is

  111. regularly used as an example of what pastors are supposed to do hang with me

  112. here okay because I'm about to say something that some of you probably

  113. maybe you disagree with maybe you've never heard a pastor say before but it's

  114. in the Bible it led to growth and so we assume that it was the best choice that

  115. the disciples could make but all you have to do is turn back in your Bible a

  116. few pages and you see places where Jesus was encouraging them to do something

  117. that looked different from that turn back you'll find the time where they

  118. didn't want the little children to come to Jesus turn back you'll find the time

  119. where they didn't want responsibility for feeding the crowds turn back a

  120. little bit you'll find the time where they saw someone casting out demons in

  121. Jesus's name but they wanted to tell him to stop because he wasn't part of their

  122. group turn back you'll find the time where they wanted to call down fire on a

  123. town because they hadn't accepted their message immediately you turn back you

  124. will find times where Jesus constantly drew them back to the heart of the

  125. father to the humanity of who people were and reminded them that's not their

  126. fault we're the ones leading let us care for them the same way we would care for

  127. each other so I'm honestly not sure first of all not everything that is in

  128. the Bible is prescriptive says it in my notes when we read the Bible not

  129. everything in it is a prescription that's telling us what to do a lot of it

  130. is describing what happened when we read certain Psalms and it says oh that I

  131. could bash the heads of my enemies against that and the other it is not a

  132. prescription of what we're meant to do it is describing the feelings of what

  133. they wanted to happen there's so many things in the Bible that we read and we

  134. go oh that's prescribing that's how I should do it that's not always true and

  135. I think that in this encounter in Acts 6 it is something that is describing what

  136. happened it doesn't mean that it's the way that we're always required to do

  137. that because it pulled those disciples away from caring for people with their

  138. own hands groups movements institutions as their power and influence grow they

  139. have a way of changing how they treat people but Knight and Beringer remind

  140. us in order to have a people first culture it sounds simple we have to

  141. treat people as people it's not as simple as it sounds because as an

  142. organization grows treating people as people becomes more difficult because it

  143. means we have to know their names and their stories today we gave you name

  144. tags for reason because your names matter

  145. you do not have to go to a church of thousands to feel like no one knows your

  146. name you can feel unknown and lonely in a room of 50 60 70 people just as easily

  147. as a church of 700 Scott McConnell is our first impressions director and we

  148. have agreed we think it's we're kind of into the idea we have agreed that we're

  149. gonna have a name tag Sunday once a month why once a month why once a month

  150. because I know some of you probably already hate the idea some of you love

  151. it some of you hate it maybe you're an introvert maybe you're private maybe

  152. you're new and you don't want anyone know your name yet and you just happen

  153. to show up on a day where we said hey here's a name tag maybe you put

  154. together the perfect outfit this morning and you this name tag just does not fit

  155. the motif it does not fit the look you matched everything and then we gave you

  156. a green name tag I get it but anonymity is an institutional element and the

  157. family knows each other's names and so once a month and you ready for this part

  158. one random Sunday a month of Scott's choosing I won't even know until he

  159. tells me one Sunday a month we are going to hand out name tags at the door oh the

  160. second element of being people first is to enfold others into the community

  161. which means that we don't just learn names we learn each other's stories this

  162. one means a lot to me because of experiences that I've had I worked at a

  163. church in Georgia between 2007 and 2010 we were just about 45 minutes outside of

  164. downtown Atlanta Brennan was just little and Liam it was actually born in Georgia

  165. and because it was a church plant and because we didn't have our own building

  166. the leadership team didn't really see each other all that often and that was

  167. okay for them because they all already knew each other they were all from

  168. there they had all either been led to the Lord or discipled by the senior

  169. pastor that we were working with and for 18 months in I still felt like a

  170. stranger I didn't feel like any of them knew me so I told my pastor we had the

  171. idea that every staff meeting we would grill someone who'd everyone on the team

  172. would ask one person a question so if we had 12 people in the room there would be

  173. 11 questions for that one person every time we had that all staff meeting this

  174. would happen a different person would get grilled we did it and it went great

  175. we got through everyone on the team I learned a ton about all of them and then

  176. we moved on but they never grilled me I was the one that brought it up but then

  177. I was never asked any questions

  178. Renee Brown says connection is the energy that exists between people when

  179. they feel seen heard and valued when they can give and receive without

  180. judgment when they derive sustenance and strength from the relationship she's

  181. talking about feeling known guys there can be a pretty big difference between

  182. people thinking they know you and you feeling known I'll say it again there can

  183. be a big difference between people thinking they know you and you feeling

  184. known those are not always the same thing and our stories have something to

  185. do with that some of you probably literally been in a conversation with

  186. me we're mid conversation I'll say oh hey do you know so-and-so then maybe

  187. I'll even introduce you to them and then I'll tell you something about them and

  188. then I'll say oh I think you guys have this in common and then I'll hang around

  189. for like 30 seconds and be like hey I'm gonna let you guys keep talking because

  190. caring about names knowing stories helps us and fold each other into a connected

  191. community helps us develop a people first culture this is also how we resist

  192. turning people into numbers right so I'm I've been a pastor for depends on what

  193. you count I guess for 22 23 years in some way I've been a pastor and we've

  194. had this church for coming up on it'll be ten years in January and I've been

  195. asked many times by people so how many giving units does your church have how

  196. many giving units does your church have what they're asking is how many

  197. separate households in your church give money because for them it is some kind

  198. of measurement of the health of the congregation and my answer is always

  199. yeah I don't really know I'm not sure yeah I don't know I can tell you whether

  200. I think that are giving is healthy right now or not but I don't yeah I don't I

  201. don't know sometimes their reply this has happened more than once well can only

  202. improve what you're willing to measure now I care about our budget all right I

  203. care if people are giving I care that if God has asked you to give something that

  204. you follow God that's important but I didn't become a pastor so I could measure

  205. how much any of you give I did not become a pastor to improve the percentage

  206. of giving units in a congregation I became a pastor so that people would

  207. know how much they're loved you are not giving units we will never have a

  208. banquet for the top givers of our congregation I'm very sorry and who I

  209. spend time with will never be based on how much you gave to this congregation

  210. people are people not numbers when we humanize each other when we treat people

  211. as people when we know each other's names and stories what happens is we see

  212. the image of God in each other we are reminded again that we are family that

  213. we are siblings McKnight and Beringer says that if we treat someone less like

  214. less than family we're doing it wrong because the most common word in the New

  215. Testament for Christian believers by far is not church it is siblings or brothers

  216. and sisters I said it last week now that doesn't mean that a family always gets

  217. along doesn't mean that we all believe the same things it does not mean that

  218. we agree about everything that is not the point it does mean that we love each

  219. other actively because we believe in Jesus we can generically love anyone you

  220. heard we can generically love anyone oh I love the people of fill in the blank

  221. region we can love anyone generically regardless of who they are but to love

  222. who someone is to know their name their story and to love them specifically that

  223. is family years ago I was talking to a mother after a daughter had come out as

  224. lesbian and the mom was accepting but she was clumsy and how she would say it

  225. she'd say Greg I love my daughter I don't care if she's a lesbian and I told

  226. her but she wants you to care she wants your love for her to include caring

  227. about who she says she is that is an active love that is taking a love that

  228. we so often in Christianity make generic and we make it specific people don't

  229. want to be loved generically they want to be known and loved specifically none

  230. of this comes easy and that's why just like last week we got to the end and we

  231. said in the only way we can do this is by the Holy Spirit we need the help of

  232. the Holy Spirit to see each other the way Jesus sees us to feel for each other

  233. the way Jesus feels for us to embrace each other as family the way we are

  234. embraced by him now none of this is really sounding like it's specifically

  235. about the leadership of a church and how the leadership of a church

  236. specifically is at fault for institutional creep so let me let me

  237. keep going here a little bit part of the reason is because I want to be kind to

  238. pastors as well because pastors are people too pastors and leaders are meant

  239. to be in the community part of the community and as far away from a

  240. pedestal as possible in order to do that the people and pastors of a congregation

  241. they all need to treat the church like a family all of them instead of like a

  242. business all of them all of them all of us need to treat a church like family

  243. and not like a business so much of the last 40 years of church development in

  244. the United States of America has focused on teaching church leaders how to act

  245. more like business leaders and how to lead their churches like businesses

  246. Eugene Peterson he's every every favorite every pastor's favorite pastor

  247. but they don't they wouldn't have ever wanted to pastor his church and I'll

  248. tell you why Eugene Pat Eugene Peterson has a ton of books about what it means

  249. to be a pastor what it means to to lead a church to care about a community the

  250. theology of what it means to pastor and so so many pastors lean on his books as

  251. they're trying to do these great incredible things which often include

  252. trying to grow as big as they possibly can but in 30 years Eugene's church was

  253. never bigger than 300 people so many of us have been tempted into wanting

  254. Eugene's message with a different result Eugene said I was watching both the

  255. church and my vocation as a pastor in it being relentlessly diminished and

  256. corrupted by being redefined in terms of running an ecclesiastical business the

  257. ink on my ordination papers wasn't even dry before I was being told by experts

  258. so-called in the field of church that my main task was to run a church after the

  259. manner of my brother and sister Christians who run service stations or

  260. grocery stores or corporations or banks hospitals and financial services many of

  261. them wrote books and gave lectures on how to do this this is the Americanization

  262. of congregations it means turning each congregation into a market for religious

  263. consumers an ecclesiastical business run along the lines of advertising

  264. techniques organizational flow charts and energized by impressive motivational

  265. rhetoric Eugene was a pastor that pushed back against the industrialization of

  266. church he saw church leaders being lured and drawn into a leadership culture that

  267. was beginning to forget we are pastors

  268. listen

  269. for me I'll speak for myself the very sad reality is that that culture has

  270. become dominant over the last 40 years church leaders were convinced they had

  271. to treat their churches like businesses and after 40 years of being treated like

  272. customers so many people that have gone to churches have learned to be consumers

  273. to subconsciously or even not so subconsciously treat the church

  274. community that is meant to be a family like it is a business like it is a

  275. restaurant like it is something that can be consumed not something that is lived

  276. but a tove church has a culture where all the people the pastors and the

  277. people remember to treat each other as equals like people like brothers and

  278. sisters created in the image of God that are meant to be there for each other so

  279. here's my advice show up early stay late jump into a community table whenever you

  280. can go to the men's morning gathering for coffee go to the women's gathering

  281. once a month if you if you can manage be in a service together and learn each

  282. other's names as often as possible let the Holy Spirit literally show you how

  283. the scriptures tell us that because of Jesus we are already connected to each

  284. other it is us that so often turns something that is a family into

  285. something less than look around go ahead look around every person in this room

  286. has a name every person in this story in this room has a story and everyone in

  287. this room is loved by Jesus the exact same way you hope to feel loved by Jesus

  288. and maybe you get to be part of them feeling loved by Jesus amen let's pray

  289. Jesus I pray that you help us to love like you loved that we would not avoid

  290. putting our hands to the work that causes us to have to be with each other

  291. that in the moments where we say oh we should send them home so they can get

  292. something to eat that we would hear you say why don't you feed them and that

  293. instead of going well that's not possible that we would then expect for

  294. you to do something miraculous that enables it every church got in America

  295. in the whole world needs for you to do something miraculous so that we is so

  296. often people that began as strangers would somehow become feeling like we are

  297. family that seeing each other would not feel like I should do that to want to

  298. see them let your Holy Spirit help us know the balance of that but it's never

  299. move into an area of shaming people into any of this let your Holy Spirit help us

  300. to see with your eyes to embrace each other as you would embrace

  301. amen