Life Conference 2019: Q&A - Bishop Tony Kemp & Dr. Yan Venter (February 2, 2019) | Life Bible Church)

We're going to do a little Q &A here before we

let you go and go get your lunch and then come

back tonight for prayer. Everybody heard prayer?

Come on, praying in the spirit at 6 o 'clock.

The fact is you can even pray a little further

than 6 o 'clock. You can pray in tongues on your

way out here. Hallelujah. That would be even

great. That's part of the reason God put us in

Harrisburg, to help your spiritual life pray

to get here. Hallelujah. All right. Glory to

God. Let's do a little Q &A. And I'd like to

frame it in. So here's the framing in right now

for this section. I want you to stay within the

boundaries of what we talked about this morning

on hearing God, okay, with Dr. Jan Venter. So

this category of how to hear the Lord and operating

in that seeing, hearing realm as well. So that's

kind of the... That's kind of going to be my

set category this morning. And so I want you

just to think about that a little bit. Pray in

tongues. What is my question? And if you have

a question, make it intelligent as much as you

can. And I'm going to come out and bring the

mic to you and let them answer your question.

So anybody have a question right off the bat

in that arena that you would like to ask? Hallelujah.

You lifted your hand first. Okay, I'm embarrassed

to ask the question, but I'm going to ask you

anyway, Tony. When I find myself praying in tongues

at night, I stay awake. Speak a little louder.

Okay, excuse me, I'll speak up a little bit louder.

When I pray in tongues at night as I'm falling

asleep, I find I don't go to sleep. I just stay

awake. When do you stop? Yeah, seriously. Here's

what I would do if I were you. Okay? I would

pray in tongues earlier in the evening, but I

would do soft instrumental music if that relaxes

you and helps you go to sleep. Does that do that

for you? Christian music. Okay? That's answer

one. Answer two. Because I sometimes do that.

Because sometimes I get so excited, I'm awake.

Okay. So sometimes I'll do soft instrumental

Christian music because it has the atmosphere.

Second thing I'll do is sometimes I will go on

YouTube and listen to like the Gospel of John

or like Matthew and listen to the word until

I fall asleep. And just listen. And it's amazing

how the word of God will just relax you. And

you're receiving that word into your spirit.

OK, and then it'll relax you and then you could

actually move from that into a spirit of revelation.

OK, and then let me let me share this with you.

Sometimes what you're what you'll do is you'll

have a dream and it's just anxiety dream or just

crazy stuff. All right. And then all of a sudden,

in the midst of that, God will insert something.

And then you need to catch it. Like last night,

I'm just dreaming some stuff. Okay? But in the

middle of all of that, I had a dream where God

spoke to me personally. And then in the middle

of it, I heard a word on a subject that I'm now

researching. But I had to recognize it. And so

then when I wake up. I go, okay, now I have to

start looking up scriptures on this subject because

the Holy Spirit obviously now wants to direct

my attention toward it. Okay? And then the other

thing had to do with the Lord revealing something

to me about me that I needed to know. A correction.

And look at somebody and say, and that's always

a wonderful thing. And also, if that don't work,

just take the book of Numbers and read and try

and pronounce every name, you know. Okay. Well

spoken. All right. Another question in regard

to that. Okay. Yes, sir. Hang up. Hang up. I'm

coming. My name is Daniel, and I'm Native American.

I do speak my language, and it's sort of like

meditating in a sweat lodge, but it's kind of

hard to open up to do the tongues. It's a different

environment, different way, but I'm really trying

to figure out how to open up to talk tongues,

but I usually just speak my native language.

How could I go about working on that? I speak

seven languages, and I can tell you right now

that the connection between earthly languages

and the spirit language, there's no connection.

You have to disconnect. No matter what kind of

language you speak, you have to learn how to

disconnect from the natural to the spiritual

because the natural man does not understand the

things of the spirit of God. And that's why that

when you speak in tongues, even to you, it'll

sound like a brabble noise in the beginning.

Because it's an unknown language. It's an unknown

tongue. Maybe known to other people that understands

the language. But when you speak in tongues or

you want to speak in tongues, you have to allow

your natural man to disconnect and to connect

to the spirit. That was good. All right. Yeah,

okay. Yes, I'm going to try to just move to sections.

Anyone right here in this section, okay? Thank

you. I'm just curious, how often is it appropriate,

the instance where I've seen people be delivered

and then it's after the deliverance, they just

raise their hand and start speaking in tongues

and they're obviously being filled with the Holy

Ghost, but they're not even doing it. They're

not trying to do it. Now, we're trying to speak

in tongues. Is there a separation between that

and God's having it happen versus you having

it happen? Does that make sense to you guys?

Want me to take this one? Yeah. Let me explain

this because this is a great question, by the

way. How did they get delivered? They yielded

to God. And they said yes to the Lord. And so...

And so they stayed in a state of yieldedness.

Their spirit yielded. And so they stayed in that

state and then they just started speaking. Because

when they felt that urge through the Holy Spirit

to speak. See, here's what's funny to me. I really

struggled. Okay. I hope this don't bother you

because I just, what you see is what you get.

I really struggled to be able to speak in tongues

because I had control issues. I like to analyze

stuff and figure it out. And I couldn't figure

it out. I couldn't figure it out. And so, okay,

see, this is what's funny. How do you speak any

language? You move your lips and you roll your

tongue. So when the day of Pentecost fully came.

There were one accord in one place, and suddenly

there came a sound from heaven, rushing mighty

wind, divided tongues like as a fire. They were

all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spoke.

Look at somebody say, you got to move your lips

and roll your tongue. So, I'm moving my lips

and roll my tongue. That's my act of faith in

yielding. And I sometimes, even now to this day,

From 72 now, I'll be praying in the spirit and

go, wait a minute, I'm speaking in tongues. And

I wasn't even aware I was speaking in tongues.

And I become conscious I'm praying in the spirit

because I'm yielding. And then there's times

when I have to voluntarily, by faith, speak.

And as I speak, I'm yielding. So you have the

sovereign and you have the voluntary yielding.

Sometimes people are yielding, but they don't

even know they're yielding. And that's what happens

in deliverance. That's really good. Excellent.

You see, you also must remember that you can

never bring the natural into the supernatural.

You cannot take the spiritual into the carnal

and vice versa. It's two different worlds. And

so when you want to speak in tongues, once again,

you have to disconnect from the carnal, the natural.

Because the natural man doesn't understand these

things. So it's a total disconnect and you accept

that the Holy Spirit will just lead you from

that moment on. Excellent question. Okay, next

one. Richard. Being frontline men of God, how

many times are you two attacked each day? By

Satan? And then do you have a standard way you

address that? Very good question. Because once

your spirit becomes sensitive to the spirit realm,

now you have to learn the world of spirits and

you learn the person of the Holy Spirit. But

you're going to encounter, when a person gets

baptized in the Holy Spirit, they're just opened

up to the world of spirits. And so you learn

the person of the Holy Spirit, but you're going

to also discover that there's other spirits out

there from the realm of darkness who, from time

to time, they're going to talk to you. Now, let

me say this, and you can do with this whatever

you want. Not every spirit, evil spirit that

talks to you, will say you. They will sometimes

say I to get you to believe that it's the voice

of your own spirit, to get you to adopt their

lie so that they can be empowered to work against

you. Look at somebody saying, not every thought

shows. And some thoughts are spirits. So one

of the reasons it's critical for us to learn

the word of the Lord is to say, is this thought,

is it in keeping with what is written or the

character of God? And if not, even if it says

I and mimics the voice of my human spirit, it

is to be rejected, casting down imaginations,

right? St. Corinthians chapter 10, four and all.

Okay, so you're going to have some level of warfare,

but I don't allow myself to get caught up into

it. So if a spirit comes to me and gives me a

thought, rather than engaging the enemy, I just

simply say, Lord, I send that one to you. And

I keep right on going because I'm not going,

we're not going to play that game. Where the

enemy going to wear me out wrestling with a thought,

a thought. Seriously? Really? No. Lord, I send

that. See, even when I say, Lord, I send that

to you, I'm still focused on Jesus. I'm still

focused on Jesus. So, I'm not doing that. Or

I simply say, it is written. And I'm still focused

on Jesus. I'm not going to let the enemy catch

me up in spiritual warfare where he becomes my

focus. Jesus said, it is written. He kept the

Father his focus. Very good. Do you want to add

anything to that? Yeah. I personally also feel

that people oftentimes involve themselves too

much and unnecessarily with spiritual warfare.

You're not supposed to be involved in spiritual

warfare. You walk in victory. You walk in the

spirit. So you don't give way to those thoughts.

Sometimes I think, and the church especially,

is too enamored by a spiritual warfare that Paul

dealt with in the book of Ephesians. You'll notice

that in the teachings of Jesus, it was you run

across demons and you cast them away. And that's

it. Live your life in such a way that in any

case, and it's too much of a subject, but in

any case, the Ephesian subject, I personally

believe, was Paul's teachings about fallen angels

and the encounters of fallen angels, not demons.

And so that's not stuff that you're supposed

to even get involved with. You are in victory.

You have been blessed with all spiritual blessings.

And you need to walk like that. Walk in victory.

And like we said here last night, you know, talking

about angels. You have angels that stands by

to help you walk in victory. Keep your mind on

Christ and away from Satan. That's good. That's

good. Tony, I'm going to do a follow -up question

for you. Yeah. In regard to just... confirming

even what you guys both said, the Bible says

in John, John writes, test all things, right?

Oh, okay. If you have a lot of experience with

angels, the angels of God, which, you know, because

I need so much help, I have. Because, yeah. I

remember this, that a demonic angel came to me.

posing as an angel of God to talk to me, and

he kind of sounded like one, but I was looking

at him, and I caught a glimpse of darkness. So,

when in doubt, if an angel says something, make

sure it's in keeping with what is written, the

character of God, right? Right? And then you

can actually make the, you can challenge the

angel to confess that Jesus Christ came in the

flesh and that Jesus Christ is his Lord and master.

That is so, that is so true. Make him say it.

So I busted this angel out. Okay. Okay. I should

probably explain this. The name Kemp means warrior.

my real name is Phillip Anthony. Everybody calls

me Tony, but Phillip means lover of horses, which

is military. And so sometimes I get real aggressive.

And so I busted his behind out and he left. Okay.

So all I'm saying is I'm not afraid of being

deceived. The very fear of deception can lead

to deception. All you got to know is the Father,

Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and it is written. So

ain't no big deal. Sooner or later, one's going

to come to try to trick you. Just bust his behind

out and send him off in the name of Jesus. Okay,

now I'll come back down. That's great. And springing

off of that, the reality is when it says test

all things, the written word is so critically

important to every level of the supernatural.

Yeah. Because as you've said, and we've talked

about the level of intrigue. of people of how

they're hearing you know we we hear it all the

time well my departed daughter or son they visit

me or they talk to me and you hear those type

of things that are clearly unbiblical but there's

no training in the word of god and so people

having wisdom Not from above. That is pure. And

that's the key again. Knowing the scriptures.

It's pure. It's noble. It's righteous. It's connected

to God's word. His character. His truth. His

holiness. If that's not there. That's why you

have to test it out. Test it out in every form

of revelation. A word to anything. Let's talk

about, and then I'll get a couple more questions.

Let's talk about discerning of spirits as in

the list in 1 Corinthians 12, discerning of spirits.

Doctor? In what sense? Well, just whatever sense

you want to talk about it. Well, you know, if

you want to discern the spirits, it's just like

you said. You know, you've got to judge them

by... what comes from them. You know, it's got

to be tested on the level of the word. You know,

you cannot believe everything or anything that

comes to you. It's got to pass the test of the

word. Number two, it's got to pass the test of

the character of God. If it doesn't have the

character of God, it doesn't pass my test. It

doesn't matter what they say. It doesn't matter

how intelligent they sound. It doesn't matter

how convincing they sound. They've got to pass

the character of God. And then number three,

are they surrounded by love? Is what is happening,

is it covered by love? God is love. So if there's

an absence of love or the presence of malice,

it's clear. That's how I test them. Yeah, the

other thing of it is I try to look at my, okay,

I try to examine my own heart in the light of

the written word of God and the Holy Spirit.

Because if your spirit's wrong, your discernment

is not clear. Okay. And so Dr. Yon said something

that I think is real, real important. And I do

want to mention this because a lot of times people

want to enter the realm of the supernatural in

Jesus, but they really suffer from guilt. Now

you have two types of guilt. You have guilt that's

genuine because you really did something wrong.

You didn't repent. And look at somebody and say,

just repent. And then believe the word. If we

walk in the light as he's in the light, the blood

of Jesus constantly and continuously cleanses

us from all sin. Okay, so once I've repented,

and now I have boldness to enter into the most

holy father through the blood of Jesus. Once

I've repented, once I've confessed that he's

faithful and just, 1 John 1 and 9. Now, now you

need to hear this. Now I'm in a state of innocence.

I'm in a state of innocence. Romans 5 and 1,

therefore being justified by faith, I have peace

with God through my Lord Jesus Christ. So I stand

before God just as if I've never sinned. Now

through a sense of innocence because of the blood

of Jesus and his resurrection from the dead,

now I have no real sense of sin. So now if the

enemy brings something, it's false guilt. Therefore

there is now no what? condemnation to them who

are in Christ Jesus, right? So now in this state

of innocence, now my faith operates, right? Because

whatsoever we ask of him, we receive because

we keep his commandments, right? So beloved,

if a heart does not condemn us, we have what?

Confidence and peace toward God, right? So now

in this peace, in this peace, I can receive revelation.

But if I let the enemy convince me of a false

guilt that the blood of Jesus is taken care of,

then it's going to be hard for me to receive

revelation from God. Does that make sense to

you? So I just want to mention that. And it's

going to be hard for me to minister by the Spirit

or receive ministry by the Spirit if I'm in a

state of guilt. That's why I always try to help

people to repent first. And, you know, the Bible

also speaks of, you know, the saints being equipped.

You know, you must always remember that you are

equipped. He makes sure that you are equipped.

He's not going to just release you to just go

out there, even if you don't have, you know,

a high level of experience in this realm we're

talking about. And one of the equipping of the

saints is the anointing. The anointing, that's

what John says, you have an anointing. And so

the anointing bears witness of the truth. And

so that should be a very strong guide for all

of us, you know, with the anointing. It not only

breaks the yoke of bondage, but it bears witness

of the truth. That's really good. Really good.

Okay, one more question here. Who's got a great

question. It's just burning, you know, the Holy

Spirit sent it to be answered. Karen. Thank you,

first of all, for the great blessing of you guys

sharing your experiences with God. I know early

in my walk, I was attacked because of a lot of

stuff that was passed down. God taught me personally.

And one thing that, as I was struggling with

self, which to me is the biggest warfare that

we have, was motivation. And I just kept begging

and begging God for motivation. And then as I

walked the walk, I saw how that relationship

was the motivation. I was wondering if you guys

could talk on that. You want to go first? Okay,

you know, the thing is, to become aware of...

of one's purpose. You know, that, I believe,

is the strongest force that will motivate you,

is when you become aware of really what your

purpose is. Because that's the thing with so

many people is they live aimlessly or without

purpose. It's amazing that when you come into

that area or that awareness of what your purpose

is, what you were created for. The moment you

come into that thing there, that becomes an incredible

motivational force. You cannot live aimlessly.

You've got to come to a place where you say,

wow, that's what I'm here for. Now, once you

find out that's what I'm here for, guess what?

You're not going to need no encouragement. You

know, because you remember what Jesus said, where

your heart is, there will be what? Your treasure.

So once you find out where is my heart, you're

going to discover your treasure. Yeah, and in

connection with that, remember Philippians, Paul

said this. He says, God's working in you, giving

you both the desire and the ability to do his

good pleasure. So questions, okay? One of the

things the Lord really taught me to do is ask

questions. So what is it that you love? What

is it that you hate? What moves you to have compassion?

What is it you want to fix? Okay? And not just

that, but if I can say it to you like this, one

of the reasons the Father and Jesus put all these

different ministries in the church and speakers

come through, and sometimes you'll listen to

a speaker, man or woman, and you'll go, you know,

I think... That resonates with it. It rings your

bell. It makes your baby leap Okay, just like

John the Baptist leaked when he heard the voice

of Jesus and it's like yeah I want to be like

that when I grow up And so sometimes what happens

is you're listening to a speaker and something

on the inside of you says, that's it, that's

it, that's it. Now you want to do your research.

Now you want to get a model. Because, see, we

grow by more than messages. We have to have a

model. We have to have a picture. And then we

say, okay, now what steps do I have to take to

cause that revelation to become a personal reality?

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