Waypoint Conference 2021 (Saturday AM) - Dr. Yan Venter (September 18, 2021) | Life Bible Church

Strange thing happened this morning. Good morning,

everybody. You know, strange thing happened when

I opened my iPad for my notes. It all was gone.

I had to quickly dash out to the room, go and

reload the notes. And then I realized, I don't

think God wants me to use notes this morning.

And just talk to you ad lib. Because you understand

what I feel here. You know, when we talk about,

especially when we have a theme like you guys

have chosen to have, and that is signs following,

we're talking about the supernatural. Come on

now. That's what we're talking about, the supernatural.

And really, the supernatural is not something

really somebody can teach you. It's some place

that you must enter and go and experience. Yes,

come on, amen when you agree with that. You know,

I cannot, for example, I cannot tell you, teach

you God. I can just take the Bible and teach

you about God. You must experience him for yourself.

You cannot, I cannot teach him. Healing. I cannot

teach you healing. I can teach you about healing.

But you first have to become sick. Hello. You

become sick and then you receive, you enter the

supernatural to receive your healing. Then you

know about the healer. We had. I had several

people through the years, and this morning I'm

going to just talk to you like Jan. Not like

a teacher, but I just want to talk to you like

a fellow citizen of this planet. So many people

through the years have said to me, Jan, what

must I do to be where you are? I said, Of course

you can be where I am. But then you have to walk

where I've walked. You know, I've died. And I

was resurrected. I have had experiences like

you cannot believe. And I overcame them. I had

to swim through a crocodile -infested river.

And God... brought me through. I'm just, you

know, please, when I talk about these things

this morning, please understand, I don't want

to uplift John. Please forget that altogether.

I want to just remind you, that's really what

this is for. This is a reminder of what and how

wonderful it really is to venture into the supernatural.

But to venture into the supernatural you actually

have to learn how to go into another dimension.

The dimension of the flesh does not experience

God. The dimension of the flesh is only a place

where we learn about God. Many people go to...

church for years I'm talking about Pentecostal

churches who believe in healing who believe believes

in divine healing and never once in their entire

lives do they ever receive what they believe

or they say they believe there is so many people

sitting in places like this who will hear a message

And then for that moment, that sermon, that word

of God, that divine word from the word maker

grabs their hearts and they come forward, receive

their healing, and then step outside of this

atmosphere, back into the atmosphere of the flesh,

and then just lose it altogether because your

faith don't hold. that your faith is not something

that you teach to have or to receive. Your faith

is a gift from God. You know, God, you know,

I thought I'd start by saying this morning, you

know, I'm not here to defend God. Nobody needs

to defend God. You know, when we teach about

healing and so on, it's almost, we have to be

so careful because we almost venture to the point

where we're defending God. Nobody defends God.

God is God. He's Almighty God. He's like no one

else. And if anybody ever thought that they knew

God, they have a surprise waiting. You know,

as long as I've been serving God, I know God,

but I really don't know God in its fullness.

Can you just imagine? Can you imagine Moses?

It's a typical example. Moses climbing up the

mountain. The mountain being another dimension.

You know, and deciding. Even up to an old age,

I don't want to be in this lower dimension because

over here, I don't see God. I don't meet with

God. I want to be in that dimension. I'm going

to climb another mountain. I'm going to climb

another hill. I want in the presence of God.

Will you raise your hands here this morning?

You make that your prayer. God, I want to be

in another dimension. Come on, just pray in tongues.

Fill the atmosphere. Come on, fill the atmosphere

with tongues. Let the Holy Spirit just pray through

here this morning and fill the atmosphere. Lord,

we want to talk about something we really don't

know much about. We want to talk about signs

following, Lord, and our flesh don't understand

those things. And so I want to pray, oh God,

help us this morning to just for a few moments

climb a mountain. Help us to get to a place,

Lord, where just for a few moments we can forget

about the world out there. Come on, pray. Don't

stop because I'm stopping. Just pray. Come on,

let's just stand up for a while and just move

around a bit and just pray. Let's fill this atmosphere

with prayer. Go ahead. Just move around a little

bit and let's pray. Come on. Hallelujah. Hallelujah,

Lord. We need your presence. We need more than

teaching. We need more than words, oh God. Take

us to another dimension, oh God. Let us see you

like man cannot see in Jesus' name. Forgive me,

Lord. Forgive me. Forgive me, Lord. Forgive me,

Lord. Thank you, Lord. Thank you. Let's take

our seats. Thank you. Hallelujah. Praise God.

You know what I, because I know, I know this

church. I mean, I'm one of your family members

here. I know your pastors. I know what their

desires are, their hunger. I know Kelly and his

wife. I know the elders of this church. I know

their hunger and their desire is for the supernatural.

Because really, you don't have church until you

experience the supernatural. And when we come

together like in a session this morning, this

really should be a repair shop. Because we go

out there and we go and dwell among humans just

like us. And there you get damaged. And before

you know it, you act and behave just like other

humans who doesn't know God. And then very soon,

you learn to walk only in the dimension of the

flesh. Paul said that he who walks in the flesh

only knows the flesh. Of the flesh. He walks

in the spirit is of the spirit. And so we have

to get to a place where we come in here like

this morning and say, Lord, fix me up. I'm damaged.

I've been damaged by situations. I've been damaged

by my own decisions. Raise your hand right now

and just say, Lord, please fix me up. Go ahead

and just pray. Make it a prayer. Lord, please

fix me up. Fix up my spirit. Because I need to

hear from you. I need to see you. I don't want

to just hear the music of great musicians. I

want to hear the music of angels. I don't want

to just hear the voice of the preacher, but I

want to hear the voice of the preacher of preachers

speaking to me. Fix me up. Come on, cry it out

from the bottom of your heart. Lord, please fix

me up. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Amen.

You know, I don't know if I'm going to get done

this morning and I don't care. So I'll just,

my next session is tomorrow morning. And then

I'll just continue there. But this morning I

just want to, I basically want to just talk to

you about signs that happened. And when I do

this, it's not to show you how great I was. Of

course, I wasn't. But I want you to understand

how great God is and what you're missing out

on. Because it's for anyone who believes. Didn't

Jesus say that to those that believe, these signs

shall follow them that believe? Every one of

us, as you sit here today, every one of us should

be people who sees into the spirit realm. And

all of a sudden, just things just open up in

you. It's just right there in front of your eyes.

You're standing in Walmart, and all of a sudden,

somebody's standing in front of you, and then

God gives you a word for that person. It's because

you, just like that, just like that, you can...

Be in another dimension because you are used

to going there. And then when you hear God's

voice, others won't understand it, but you heard

something. Jenny said it this morning. She saw

things move around here. And they are. These

are angels that moves around. You understand,

we're actually a people who actually can have

one foot into this dimension and another foot,

as it were, in another dimension. You know, when

the angel, for example, asks Zechariah, what

do you see? There's something about that. What

do you see? You remember that when he asked him,

what do you see Zechariah for? You know, when

the angel asks you that, what do you see? Really,

the answer is, which way do you want me to look?

You know, because what am I seeing now? I see

you. I see the speakers. But when God asks you,

what do you see? He's not interested in the speakers.

He's not interested in the books, the lights.

The building around you. God wants to know. Are

you able. Can you look into. The places I want

you to see. Look what I have for you. When Basie

died. I almost died. Myself. And. In fact I wanted

to die. And then. When God healed me six months

after that, I stood under a spiritual shower.

The blessings of God came over me. Now, whether

you believe this or not, it doesn't matter. I

know you will believe it. But there's a lot of

people, when you talk about these spiritual things,

they don't understand it. And therefore, they

don't believe it. That pain washed away just

like this. In a moment, that pain was gone. As

much as I loved Basie, married with her for 50

years, boom, washed it off. And then God gave

me a verse, and he says, because I thought my

ministry was over, my life was over, and then

God said, I know what kind of plans I have for

you. Do you understand? At the age of 72 then,

God tells me, I have a plan for you. Come on,

just. God is a phenomenal, phenomenal friend

to have in your life. It really, it really, I

started saying it last night, I really feel that

it's so wrong for us. We learn to say things

wrong. Sometimes I wonder how God feels about

that. When we, as children of God, come together

in a place like this and we lift our eyes up

and we say, Holy Spirit, we welcome you. I mean,

how, you know, that's... I know that's what we've

learned to say, but he's welcoming you. You know,

he lives in your heart. You don't have to welcome

your child who eats at your table every day and

when he comes from school, you say, well, I just

want to welcome you. You understand? God lives

in you. And you don't have to welcome him. He

is here. Come on, can I hear an amen? You know,

he's with you. But now what happens is we live

in that world out there with people who don't

believe. They talk negative all the time. They

express their fears all the time. You turn the

television on and you hear negative stuff all

the time. They act like fear mongers. Their goal

is to be used, I'm sure, by the enemy to just

instill fear into the hearts, not just of the

world out there, but in particular of church

people, God's people. People who believe in the

supernatural instill fear. The moment that you

embrace fear, that moment the door closes for

the supernatural for you. You cannot walk in

fear and then walk in faith at the same time.

It's time that you say to yourself, I'm going

to guard my ears. And I'm going to guard my mouth

because I'm going to speak what I believe God.

Oh, I feel he's anointing. Come on, just give

him a praise offering. Glory to God. I'm going

to do that. So that, you know, when we come together

like this as all believers, everybody, believers,

I don't have to defend God to you by teaching

you, you know, about the Scriptures and so on.

It's great to hear the Scriptures. You've heard

them over and over. I don't know how many sermons

have you heard in your lifetime. Kelly, how many

sermons have you heard? Roughly. Would you say

thousands, gazillions? Yeah, gazillions. How

many? How many of you have heard gazillions of

sermons? Let me just see, you know, gazillions

of sermons. And then really, when we put you

on a scale, if there was a scale that we could

weigh you at any given time of your day, we would

possibly find if there was a scale that could

weigh whether you were fleshly or spiritually,

most of the time the scale would indicate that

you are fleshly. And so you have to do something

about that. You know, I think I've shared some

of these stories with you before. You know, me,

just like Pastor Dale, I was called by God at

the age of 12, and then God told me all these

things of how he was going to use me spiritually.

And then when I went to the Bible school, the

worst thing I've ever done was to go to a Bible

school. Because there they teach you religion.

I'm not putting Bible schools down, but I'm just

telling you. They teach you religion. Only. You've

got to learn religion. You've got to learn dogma.

You've got to learn in all these things, theology

and all that. That's good. But they fail to teach

most of their students. the most important thing

is, and that is how to enter into the supernatural.

And when my first church that I had, that I pastored,

I remember three months after I was there, I

haven't seen one miracle. I haven't seen one

person saved. And I asked God, Lord, why am I

not seeing these things? That you promised me

at the age of 12 that I'm going to see. Why am

I not seeing these things? And God didn't answer

me. But he asked me a question. What do you think

you should do? To see these things. And at that

time, you know, my teaching from the Bible school

and from other pastors and other people and from

Christian people would tell me, tell God, you

need to pray more. And I was afraid to say that

because I've already committed myself to five

o 'clock in the morning prayer for an hour. And

to pray that hour became a monstrous. Responsibility.

Because after every. Every morning going in there.

And you pray. You know you pray for 10 minutes.

And all the needs that you had. You mentioned

them all. And now you got 45 minutes. To pray

some more. And I mean it becomes a horrible.

Horrible duration of time. And then you find

yourself going through. Through the day with

a small little notebook and listening to people,

if anybody has any problem, whoa, wait, I want

to hear about it. I'm going to write it down

in my book. That's going to give me two extra

minutes of my prayer time. So I said to the Lord

very carefully, Do I need to pray more? And God

sarcastically said to me, do you think maybe

that while you pray all those prayers that you've

been praying these last several months in the

mornings, do you think maybe you should also

spread glass on the floor and crawl over them

so that you could bleed also and pray at the

same time and spill your own blood so that you

can suffer? No, Lord. And then God was silent

after that. And then when I got into a place

later that day where an office supply place,

God told me to pick up a little counter. You

know, where you click and the number moves on.

You click, you count children that way or sheep

here in Oregon. God said, pick that up. picked

it up, and I said, Lord, what am I going to do

with it? Because my wife already accuses me that

I'm Mr. Gadget. What am I going to tell her?

What do I need a counter for? You know, and God

didn't answer anything until I got to the car.

This little counter fits into your hand like

that, and it's got a little ring, and it fits

right around this finger of mine. And I put it

like that, and I said, Lord, what must I do with

it? And God said, I want you to click that 500

times today. And every time say, Jesus, glory

to God, hallelujah. Every time when you contact

anything with heaven, just click it one time.

Just Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. To 5 o 'clock that

afternoon, I looked at the number and it was

300. I said, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. You

understand? Because God said 500 times. And then,

you know, I went for about two weeks. And then

I got used to it. You know, I just. Do my work

and glory to God. Hallelujah. And, you know,

talk to people, counsel people. Thank you, Jesus.

Thank you, Jesus. And I went over 500. Then God

pushed it up to 1 ,000. Then she told me, she

said, John, do you know what? You're hardly sleeping.

You're praying all night long. I said, yeah,

I'm making up 1 ,000, you know. But, you know,

as funny as it may sound, all of a sudden God

taught me it's not in repetition of words, but

it's about teaching your spirit to also remain

in contact with another dimension. That when

you need him, you could just step into that dimension

because you are right. What did you say? Yeah.

It's always there. You know, when you do, when

you want to use these things, you want to see

signs and wonders following, then you must be

prepared not to just see other people receive

their miracles, but you must also understand

that God is going to teach you by example. At

least that's the way it is with me. I have several

books on my table there where the titles are,

You Won't Believe This or Can You Believe This?

You know, things that happened to me in the supernatural,

some of them very funny. And every one of them,

there were signs following that. For example,

one time I was with another preacher. We were

invited to go to Germany. I've never been to

Germany at that time. And the preacher that was

with me, he's actually the one that received

the invitation. And I asked him before we left,

do you have the address? Yes, it was over at

Christmas time. And so we come to... And when

we stepped outside the airport, I asked him,

what is the address so we can tell the cab driver?

Oh, no, we rented a car so we could, you know,

see where to go. And then he found out he don't

have the address. He called his office and it

was Christmas time. The offices are closed. Nobody

is there. We cannot find the address. I said,

can you remember anything about the address?

No, he said, all I can remember is something

like Kirchen, Kirchen something. We had to be

there. So I told him, I said, this is what you

do. You drive the car. Don't let nobody talk.

I'm going to go on my knees in the back there.

And I'm going to pray. And when I say, turn left,

turn left, turn right, turn right, and so on,

I'm on my knees. I lead them. Turn left, turn

right. Never been in that area ever in my life.

And then I said, you know, I'm going to get to

a T -junction. You have to turn right. We went

for a long time, got to a T -junction, turned

right. He said, Jan, I think you've got to look

here. I think we're in the wrong place. I looked

up and we're inside a mall. And the Germans,

they can really cuss. They're cussing us out

because we're not supposed to drive there. Later

on, I would find out it was the shortcut to the

place where we're supposed to go. And we just

keep on going through the place. And then when

the directions ended. I told him, just stop here.

I don't have no more directions. I don't feel

no inspiration. I got out of the car. I walked

across, and I said to the man working at a gas

station there, do you know something about a

street that's Kirchen or Getschen, something

like that? Oh, he says, Kirchen, Kirchen. It's

Kirchen. It's church. Do you know where that

is? Sure, it's just around the corner here, a

very short street. God took us all the way over

this big city right up to where we needed to

go. You understand? We're talking about signs.

We're talking about the supernatural. You understand?

If you say this, if I told this to somebody else

out there, they're not going to believe it. I

mean, it sounds too far -fetched. How about the

prophet that outran a horse? You know, how about

telling them that? You know, how about calling

down rain? We are people of the supernatural.

Come on, can I hear a better amen? We are people

of the supernatural. Now, I'm not going to do

that just to show off because then it's not going

to work. You've got to go in there in absolute

humbleness. You've got to go there with just

absolute desperation. Lord, I need your help.

We need help here. And, you know, whenever, that's

one of the problems that we have here in the

United States. People ask, one man asked me one

time, why don't you see miracles in America anymore

like you guys used to? And why do you see it

overseas more than here? And I know what pastor

said last night. We see miracles over here. We

do. Sure enough, we see a lot of miracles here.

But not like we're supposed to. We are one of

the nations that, in fact, we are the nation,

if it wasn't for the United States of America,

we would not, the world would not be where it

is right now as far as the gospel is concerned.

95 cents out of every dollar that reaches the

mission fields comes from the United States.

But while they kept on discovering the supernatural,

we settled for commercialism. On this side. Here

in the United States today, it's all about money

and big buildings. Thank God for the pastor putting

up this building. A very humble building, but

look how nice it looks. Why spend all these...

billions and millions of money into buildings,

and there's people out there dying of hunger.

We got our priorities so screwed up and so messed

up. It's time for us to get our priorities right

again and say, Lord, open up our eyes again for

the supernatural. Let us see signs, wonders following.

Go ahead. Give Him a great praise offering. Glory

to God. You know, when I fell off the roof, and

how many of you have heard about my testimony

when I fell off the roof? Let me just see your

hands. How many of you have not heard it? Let

me just see your hands. Oh, there's quite a few.

Well, for the sake of those, let me just say

it shortly. I was helping a church put a roof

on a building, a four -story building, and a

deacon pulled me off balance, and I fell four

stories. He said it was by accident. I don't

believe him. I don't trust deacons. I told people

I don't trust deacons. I'm just kidding, but

I fell four stories high. They said, I didn't

know because I was not there, but they said I

died. Instantly dead. My head hit the ground

so hard. Fell a hole into a seven -inch concrete

floor. I'm kidding. But I did. I mean, I hit

it hard. And an old man came and stood over me

when the ambulance man said, there's no hope.

He's dead. They're ready to just pull a sheet

over my face. But an old man came and put his

legs across my body like this. And he said to

the fire people, Will you give us a chance? We

need to talk to God. This man's work is not over

yet. And prayed and called upon heaven. And a

wonderful sign followed when I cried out and

said, you know, what's going on? Because I couldn't

straighten my arms. I came alive. You understand?

That's a sign. That's a sign of wonder. Come

on. That's a wonder. Then when they took me to

the hospital, they could fix everything, 26 broken

bodies, broken bones. But this arm, they just

could not get it fixed, and they tried to remove

this. In fact, they removed the elbow, and when

they put an artificial elbow in there, the body

rejected the elbow. An incredible infection set

in. Don't you think for one minute that when

you walk with God, You know, nothing bad is going

to happen to you. On the contrary, you know,

all sorts of stuff will happen to you. But God

wants you to understand and to remember that

there is nothing that can come to you that you

cannot handle. God will not allow you to be tempted

above which you are able. Come on, give Him a

shout of praise. Glory to God. And then you will

remember that when they wanted to amputate this

arm. In fact, they said, it's got to be amputated.

And I said, you're not going to amputate my arm.

The doctor said, you're being stubborn. Why don't

you want us to amputate that arm? It's going

to kill you. I said, because that's my arm. That's

why I don't want you to amputate it. It's my

arm. And I only have one on that side. So they

did an operation, and Dale was there, and they

prayed with me. They put this arm, they put a

rod inside the arm this way, a rod inside there,

and inside the arm they put a bolt that locked

it in this position so it could still use the

wrist. But man, that was horrible. You try and

fix your tie with an arm that don't want to get

up there. You know, try and fix your shoes and

it didn't work for me. I said to him and Brother

Schambach, I need an arm that will work. Brother

Schambach said, come on, let's do it. He called

Dale and the two of them laid hands on me. Just

a simple prayer. Lord. make that belt become

a hinge. I had to go to India the very next day.

I went to India the next day, and when I got

to India, I struggled to tie my shoe, and when

I did it, my arm, I heard it snap. And that hinge,

whatever happened, I mean, it just let go, and

my arm all of a sudden started working. I called

my doctor and I said, doctor, my arm started

working. He said, hey, wait a minute, define

working. I said, well, what happens is this arm,

I can bend it, told him. He said, no, no, no,

no, Jan, please don't bend that arm. Something

went horribly wrong. I said, doctor, something

went wonderfully right. God gave me an arm like

this, and I mean, I went around the world for

about seven, eight years testifying around the

world how God gave me another elbow from two

metal rods. And then I was on my knees praying

one day, and when I got up, I pushed myself up

like that, and this arm inside shattered into,

I mean, so many pieces. I went to my doctor and

I showed him. He took an x -ray. He said, John,

what did you do? I said, I didn't do nothing.

I mean, this thing just broke and, I mean, shattered.

He said, well, I tell you what, there's nothing,

nothing we can do for you. Took the rods out.

This arm here, I mean, we have to, my wife makes

my cuffs shorter so you can't really see it,

but it's, it's. That much shorter than the other

one. And he told me. He says. We don't know what's

going to happen now. You don't want us to amputate

the arm. There's nothing between here and there.

There's no connection. You can see. There's no

connection. There's all loose. You know. This

thing can go any direction. You know. I demonstrated

that to a church in New Mexico and the pastor

threw up right away. You know. My wife was with

me a couple of weeks ago when we were at my doctor

and he just did a general checkup. I asked him,

I said, doctor, how come this arm? Because he

told me that this part is going to rot away because

there's no proper blood flow going through there,

done about the nerves. Craziest thing is when

I have this arm under the covers, I know where

this arm is as long as my eyes can see it. But

when it's under the covers, I told my wife, new

wife, she's only two years old. I said, I've

got to tell you that what happens under the covers,

I have no control over. I'm not kidding you,

it's the truth. Many times at night, I've got

to... I've got to toss around, where's my arm?

You know, where's my arm? Because my brain doesn't

connect with that part. And yet, over here it's

dead, but over there, I could stick it with a

needle, and I have feeling until I put it under

the covers. And so I asked my doctor, and he

said, I don't know. That's not supposed to work.

You know what it is? It's a sign following a

prayer. It's a sign following a prayer. You know,

when that arm shattered that time, I knew what

the enemy tried to do. He tried to make out that

as if my testimony over the last seven years

is now destroyed. For seven years, this arm worked

with a converted metal joint. Then God showed

the enemy, I can now give him a Nike joint working

on air. This is, this is, it doesn't need, it

doesn't need no elbow, nothing. See, it doesn't

need no elbow. And it's strong, I'm telling you,

it's strong. It does everything. So why am I

saying this? I'm just telling you so that you

could understand. God can do great things. You

know, some time ago they called me about a lady

that's about to give birth for a baby boy. And

when they took x -rays, the brain is outside

the baby's body. And I prayed, you know. I'm

sure many of you have experienced this. You can

clearly tell when you pray. Isn't that right,

Pastor? You can clearly tell when you're actually

now going into another dimension, Pastor. You

know that, Pastor. Pastor Brad. I went into that

dimension and prayed. Three days later, the baby

came out totally, totally normal. Brain inside

and the baby healed. My grandson was born with

Down syndrome. And at the age of three, he hadn't

walked, hadn't crawled, hadn't spoken. And at

the age of three, right there in Brother Swin's

church, where I stood with him in my arms and

I wasn't preaching that day and just worshiping

and I cried and I said, God, you know, I cannot

tell you that I'm working so hard for you and

for that reason, you know, I'm asking you to

heal my grandson. He's got my name. It's my only

namesake. And then I said, will you please, Lord,

just... Please heal my grandson because I know

you can. You know, it's like the man that said,

I know if you will, you can heal me. See, that's

talking other dimension talk. Come on, can I

hear an amen? See, it's all in the talking. You

got to say it. It's like the woman with the issue

of blood. When I, not if, when I touch. The hem

of his garment, I will be made whole. Then Jesus

gets up and he says, you know, after he had spoken

to her, go away, you've been, well, the Bible

says that when she touched him, she was healed.

But that's not what she asked for. She asked

to be whole. A lot of times people come forward

here for prayer, and their problem for that problem

that, I mean, the reason for the problem they

have is because of some sinful lifestyle, unforgiveness,

or whatever. Whatever cause, could be stress.

You know, all these things can make you sick.

Now, you come here, and then God heals you. You

go home with the same lifestyle. Boom, that same

problem is back. And then when she said she told

him all the truth, she came clean. He told her,

you can go and read it. He told her, go away,

you've been made whole. It's all, everything

gone. It'll never come back again. And so I prayed

for my grandson, Lord, make him whole. When we

came home, I put him on a blanket while they

were making food. And we were busy there in the

kitchen. And the next minute, this little toddler

comes struggling from one chair to another. Just

walking from one chair to another, holding on

for the first time in his life. Today, he's,

what, 20? He finished high school. He was many,

many years. Almost every year, he was... Told

to be a genius. I mean, you know how they test

the kids and get the IQ of a genius. God healed

him. No syndrome. Now down syndrome. See, here's

the thing. Before I continue with my stories,

here's the thing. You have to learn. You are

a spiritual being. Look at somebody and say you're

a spiritual being. This, what you see, is just

the tent, a temporal tent that you're living

in. Your spirit man is living in a temporal tent

that very soon we're going to put in a six -foot

hole. But he who believes in me, even though

he dies, yet will he live. He will continue living.

Because this is not you. You are the spirit person

behind. And all you have to learn is teach yourself.

To be who you are. Don't teach yourself to be

who other people are. You're a child of God.

That's why, you understand, before you can see

God, you have to become born again. You cannot

see God. Paul said the natural man does not receive

the things of the Spirit of God. Because to him

it's foolishness. You understand, the spirit

man, that's why you must be born again. That's

why you must be a person of prayer. That's why

you must be somebody that constantly makes contact

with the dimension on the other side there, constantly.

It's not just enough for just your pastors and

the elders to be people that can lay hands on

you. Every one of us can go into another dimension

and see wonderful signs following your prayer

because God is in you and he lives in you. Come

on, give him a shout of praise for that. But

what is happening is you're teaching. You have

to teach yourself. To be an unbeliever or to

have unbelief. You have to teach yourself that.

It doesn't come natural. You have to teach yourself

to have unbelief. Because you know that there's

never been a moment or a person where God ever

failed. Yes? You know that with God all things

are possible. You know the Bible says, Jesus

said to himself, with God nothing is impossible.

So why fear then? Tell you why you fear. It's

because of pride. That's the first thing that

had to go. When I asked God there that morning,

why don't I see these things? And not only did

God deal me with the prayer thing, but he dealt

with me in this way. He told me, now go ahead

and go and take out a full page ad in the newspaper

and tell them Sunday night you're praying for

the sick and the blind will heal. We'll see and

the deaf will hear and the lame will walk. Two

miles this way, there's a school for the blind.

Three miles the opposite direction, a school

for the deaf. And our church right behind an

orthopedic hospital. And I didn't put out the

page. And then the next morning or the next week,

God asked me, why didn't you put out the page?

Like I told you. I said, Lord, because I was

afraid. You know about the blind school here.

They'll bus them in. And the deaf people, they'll

bus them in. Here behind in the hospital, they

don't even need buses. They just bring them on

the stretches. Bring them here. So, who heals

them? Why are you afraid? Are you afraid for

me? Or are you afraid because it's your pride?

See, we have to learn these things. It's easy

to say, Lord, I know you heal, but then you're

too afraid to. To do it yourself. Many people

are too afraid to even come out for their miracle.

They first wait for somebody else to come out.

And then they'll come out here. Well let me see

what happens to me too. You turkey lips. You

may as well go and sit down. Nothing is going

to happen. You want to come out here. After you've

already been there. And your seat made up your

mind. God is my healer. I'm not just an earthling.

I'm also a heavenly citizen. And my body is supposed

to be healthy so that I could work for God. And

even when I walk, live with an arm like this,

sometimes I forget that people are looking at

me when I stand like this, because that's my

most comfortable position, just like that. And

they look at me, what's going on with your arm?

I have a chance every time to say, my God healed

this arm here, you know. Glory to God. God had

to first teach me not to be afraid. Today, they

bring wheelchairs in. Same with you. They bring

them in. In Africa, I mean, they'll bring horribly

sick people to you. All I do is I lay hands on

them and pray for them. That's all God said I

must do. I lay hands on them. I pray for them.

And I walk away. I was in Arkansas some time

ago. And this lady came. She had a shoe built

up like that. Something horrible happened after

a very bad accident. She came forward. She said,

if God can do this for your arm, then God can

do it for me. For my leg. I said, sure. I laid

my hand on her. I said, Lord, thank you for healing

her. And I just moved on. And she was so dissatisfied.

She was so unhappy. She came there afterwards

when I was at my tape table. Why didn't you pray

for me? I said, I did. But that wasn't really

a long prayer. You know, with God, you don't

have to say long prayers. He didn't even, nowhere

in the Bible do you even read that you should

pray for the sick. He said, lay hands on the

sick. So I said, go back to the front there and

go and receive your healing. She stumbles back,

walks there, you know, like that to the front.

This is in Mena, Arkansas. And then all of a

sudden I hear the scream and then other screams.

When she sat there, the seat and that shoe just.

Stretched out like that. I mean, just like that.

People said they sat there and they saw the foot

just stretch out like that. And God healed her.

God healed her, not John. It's God that brings

signs and that brings wonders. You don't need

a long prayer. You just need somebody that believes

God is now going to do it. He did it for me.

He's going to do it for you. If you're in this

house here today and whatever your problem is,

all you need is make contact with God in the

next dimension. Walk forward here and see what

is going to happen. Come on. Give Him another

shout of praise. My God is in charge. Glory to

God. Well, you know, Hanley and I, we've been

looking to find property there where we live

in Rogers. I mean, you cannot believe. I mean,

six months now. First of all, the property has

just gone sky high. And then finally we decided

we're going to just get a mobile home. We can

afford a mobile home. But then we couldn't find

property. I mean. We go to a piece of property,

and when we like it, then we call the agent,

and it's already taken. It's already taken. Six

months of that. And then an agent called Hanley

last Saturday. Early in the morning, she said,

I know of a property that's going to go on the

market right now. Nobody knows about it. Go out

there quickly. See if you like it. Call me back.

We go out there. Yeah, we like it. We wanted

to tell her before we went out there, we like

it, we'll take it. Without even seeing it. But

she said, no, you got to go out there. We go

out there and we call her immediately. We like

that property. She said, you're not going to

believe this. I was just called by the same people

said that that property is sold. I only went

and slept for the rest of the day. She wouldn't

get up. She was just so down. I finally brought

her a cup of coffee late in the afternoon. Come

on, honey. God is going to give us something.

Say it. I said to her, say it. You see, here's

the thing. You've got to learn to say it. You

don't just receive it, you've got to say it.

Whoever says to this mountain, you know, on my

table there's that little book. If you don't

have it yet, please go and get that little book.

It's called Warriors from the Secret Place. The

secret place where you go in there, Satan don't

know where you are. People don't know where that

secret place is. It's a wonderful place. You

go in there, Satan don't know where you are.

If you want to know where that secret place is,

you've got to pay $5 and buy that book out there.

That's a Mennonite laugh. Oh, my goodness. I

told her, I said, God's going to give us a piece

of property. She took a deep breath. She said,

God's going to give us a piece of property. That

was on Saturday. Sunday morning we're called.

And the man says, I'll tell you what. I've decided,

my wife and I decided to give you two acres of

property. Three. I'll tell you, we rejoiced.

But then the man said, but, he said, you are

going to need a miracle. There's no entrance

to that property. We have tried. I've done everything

I can for the neighbors on both sides to give

permission for us to have an easement. We need,

you need an easement. Otherwise, that property

means nothing to you. I prayed. Hanley and I

prayed right away. But then I, you know, let

me tell you something. You know, when you need

a miracle, can I teach you something? Everybody

say yes or no. When you need a miracle, don't

call somebody that whispers when they pray. When

you need a miracle, call on somebody. They can

pray so loud. The people on the outside of the

building can hear them right there in the motorhomes,

in the outside there, you know, so loud. I called

Pastor Brad. I know the man can pray loud. But

I'll say, no, he prays in faith. My brother,

he's the one that gave us the property. He said,

Jan, let me tell you right now. There's just,

I've tried over and over, and there's no waste.

I'm telling you, you're not going to get an easement.

So I said to Pastor Brad, we're in our car traveling.

I tell you what, that man prayed and touched

heaven. I mean, while we're driving, we could

feel the anointing of God just absolutely, you

know, drive, I mean, vibrate that car. And it

wasn't the engine. I mean, it was just vibration

throughout. I come there to that man. He comes

and stands there in front of me, and he is absolutely

in submission when I tell him my story. And then

I find out. He's a wonderful child of God. God,

I mean, I could have gone to the other side and

that would have been something different. I'm

sure it would have still happened, but God sent

me to the right one. And that man, he said, get

in the car, get in the truck, let's go and look.

We went down there where it's necessary. And

he said, everything you need is yours. Everything

you need is yours. Oh, come on, somebody shout

for him, will you? Glory to God. Come on, just

out loud, just praise him. Glory to God. You

know, I'm telling you these things so that you

could understand that when you touch God and

you know that, and we're going to do it here

this morning for those of you that feel that

you are ready. To enter into that dimension.

Then just watch what is going to happen. Is there

anybody here that really has pain sitting right

now? I mean really sitting with pain in your

body right now. Let me just see your hand. Anybody

that's got pain in this moment in your body?

Who's that? What's wrong? Loud. Say that again.

Your stomach hurting. Since when? Where? Show

me where it hurts. You know, and you're a child

of God, right? Yeah. You know, when we're children

of God, that means that, you know, especially

when you're a child of God, this is the bread

of his children. Yes? And is it pain now? I mean,

you're still paining right now. You know, Jesus

said, well, you lay hands on the sick like this.

You know that, right? Just lay hands on the sick

just like that. That's all he said, just like

that. I just laid my hands on you, right? And

I know the pain was there a minute ago, but where's

the pain now? Where is it now? I know that's

where it was, but is the pain now? Where is it?

It's gone. Come on, just. I mean, really. Come

here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Where's

that microphone? Where's that microphone? You

know, you know what Paul said? Paul said, I didn't

come. Thank you so much. We didn't come with

excellency of speech. We didn't come and try

and impress you with words of wisdom. But we

came to demonstrate to you the power of God.

Amen? Tell them how the pain was this morning.

It was cramping. Yes. It was really hurting.

And when you were sitting there, what did you

feel before I prayed for you? It was like hurting

and cramping still. And then what happened when

I put my hand on your head? It went away. Right

away? Yeah. Look at that. I mean, it's gone.

Is it gone? Yes. Look at her eyes when I ask

her that. Just look at her eyes. Is it really

gone? Yes. It's really gone. Come on, give him

another hand. Thank you so much. You know. We

have to understand that it happens every time.

Sometimes you just stand next to somebody. Wasn't

it in the New Testament that the disciples walked

and their shadow fell on people? Only their shadow.

And people received healing. We have learned

there's got to be with prayer, long words. Yes,

of course we pray. We love to pray. Love to use

the name of Jesus. But you have to understand,

also we do everything in the name of Jesus. One

more testimony, then I'm going to close. You

know that I was in the Special Forces in South

Africa, and there's been a lot of things that

happened there. I was there, I was pastoring

a church. In fact, my first church I ever pastored.

And in South Africa, I never went to the military,

but as soon as I went to Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe,

they just called me up right away. drafted me

into the special forces. I told the commander,

I said, I'm a pastor. They're going to train

me as an anti -terrorist fighter. And I told

him, I said, I'm a pastor. I saved people. Don't

kill them. He said, pastor, we're going to train

you. If you pass the training, we're going to

send you on the first mission. And if you still

feel like... Like you feel that way, then we'll

put you behind a desk on a desk job. But just

finish the training first. So when it was done,

they sent me on my first mission. And I felt

really terrible, you know. Sundays I heal them

and on Mondays I walk around. Actually, it's

an ideal situation. Because on Monday I come

to your house with an AK -47. Yesterday. It's

easy. Today, I'm here representing the military.

But they sent me on my first mission. And never

forget this. When we went out, the very first

place we got to was a little mission church.

There in the boondocks. We got there and the

two missionary ladies hanging upside down, naked.

pinned through their ankles, and left to bleed

to death, the female parts all cut out. You know,

that day when I got back, I told the commander,

just give me that gun. I'm ready. They sent us

after those terrorists. We call them terrorists.

They sent us after those terrorists. Some of

those terrorists were trained behind the Iron

Curtain, and they were really, really very tricky.

Guerrilla warfare, ambush territory. You're trained

in that. When you're asleep, you sleep in a circle.

Each one with their hand near the trigger of

their gun, safety off. Because if somebody wants

to come and ambush you, you don't know where

they are, it's nighttime, and you just shoot

in a 360 -degree circle, you're bound to hit

something. That's how they train you. And I'm

telling you this for the reason that night when

we went to bed, we had tracked down these terrorists

and found them on top of a hill, but they were

shooting down at us, and we couldn't penetrate.

They couldn't go over because of... crevice on

that side, but they were there, and we waited

until nightfall, and we made bed down here, made

a little camp in places where there's a lot of

dry leaves and so on, and then they gave me the

radio the first time to, you know, every hour

you move the radio and stand guard. We had one

guy in our group. What had happened, let me just

say, there was a group of just five men. But

because of that situation there, they sent in

two extra units. And so they sent in ten very,

very wild men. These guys, every one of them

were wearing necklaces of terrorist ears that

they had killed. You know, I know it sounds horrible

to you. But if you have come to situations like

they have, where they come to an orphanage and

every orphan's eyes are poked out. You understand?

You can understand why they are like that. But

they were wild. They didn't know God. That evening

when we, that afternoon when we took our quiet

time, they stood there on the one side and they

mocked us. And so. We didn't care. So when we

went to go to bed, I had the first radio. And

one of my men, he's a Baptist guy. His name was

Jim. Jim was so scared. I mean, he really was.

He was very, very scared. You're not allowed

to talk because sound carries so far in the bush.

He came and laid real close to me. His ear, his

mouth in my ear. And talked and asked me, are

you afraid too? And I said, yeah, yeah, I'm afraid

too. So he said, I don't think you are. You know,

I've watched you. You know, there's just something

about you. So he said, what is it about you that,

man, I've never seen anybody so bold like you.

I said, well. The reason I believe it is, and

I'm just giving you the short version. This goes

on now for a long time. The reason is baptism

in the Holy Spirit, and I told you about my experience.

And it's all whispering with, and so the Holy

Spirit came upon me. You know, that kind of stuff.

You cannot talk louder than that. And so he said,

I've never even heard of that. What is the baptism

in the Holy Spirit? So I had to explain to him.

And then he goes, does that mean if you pray

for me, I can have the same thing? Now you understand,

we're laying in a place where we don't know where

the terrorists are. There's 10 very wild men

laying here. with their fingers on triggers.

And this ignorant Baptist man, sorry. I mean

that very nicely, you know, but he wants to know

about that. And so I kind of tried to block the

whole thing. And I said, sure, Jim, sure. When

we get to some quiet spot tomorrow, you know,

I'll pray for you. He goes, why not now? He said,

I've never felt God like this in all my life.

And I didn't want to scare him off, and I didn't

want to tell him, Jim, this is going to be the

loudest experience you've ever had in your life.

This is going to be an explosion from the inside.

This is going to be. Somebody gave me a word

last night. It was Bruce. Where's Bruce? Bruce,

is he here? Bruce gave me a great word last night.

He said, God. God said, I must tell you that

what is in you is an artesian well. Artesian

well. I went home to go and see what is an artesian

well. I checked it up. Artesian well is actually,

it's a line that's diagonally opposite, 90 degrees.

Is that what it is? 90 degrees opposite from

the flow of the water. So the river is right

there. And the artesian well goes down here.

And that water, you don't need a pump. It just

goes. Look at somebody say, I have an artesian

well. Come on, say it again. I have an artesian

well. Glory to God. That's what has happened.

Did you preach that? Is that why he knew that?

You preached that? Okay. I thought you may have

preached that. But that's a good sermon. So I

told Jim, it's going to explode. I mean, I could

have told him, it's going to explode out of you.

But I didn't want to scare him. And I also didn't

want to lose him because tomorrow we could hit

this. Even tonight, we could get into a fight

and we'd never see old Jim again. So I told Jim.

Those days my wife wanted to know why did he

have to turn on his stomach. Because I said,

I don't know. I just didn't want him to get stuck

in his own spit or something. I don't know. But

he turned on his stomach. I said, I went like

this. I mean, like this. I'm not kidding you.

In the name of Jesus. And I touched him like

that. That man started screaming. I mean, it

was so loud. He grabbed his pillow and tried

to muffle the sound. And then when it didn't

work, he jumped out of his sleeping bag. And

when he did that, I covered my head because I

knew he's dead. He's dead. They're going to kill

him, you know. You can't even go to the bathroom

without first waking your man up because they'll

shoot you, you know. And so here's old Jim, his

hands up in the air, and I look around at the

other guys and my guys, and not a single one

wakes up. Not a single, oh, come on, give the

Lord a handclap of praise. Not a single one wakes

up. Come on! Somebody shout for him. Glory to

God. Come on, just some more. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.

Glory to God. You know, let me just tell you

something. God is God like you've never known

any person in your life. He is God. He is above

everybody else. And he is right there in your

heart. Come on. Give him another praise offering

glory. Wow. You know, the next morning, old Jim,

he was. He was so excited. I mean, he's so hyper.

One of the complaints that he had, he said, I've

been serving God for 17 years. I've never been

able to tell somebody about Jesus. And now he's

hyper. This way, that way. He packs and unpacks

and drags a big stone here against the tree where

it happened and puts a big cross on there. And

those 10 guys come and stand there. They're very

superstitious. Why are you making a tombstone

here? Jim told him, a man that never could tell

anybody about Jesus. He said, last night, Jim

died here. And this morning, there's a new person

in Christ Jesus right here. Oh, wow. Glory to

God. You know, one of the guys, of the wild guys,

Because my guys, they were all Christians. And

so one of the wild guys asked Jim, what do you

mean? Jim said, hey, walk with me around that

big tree. Walked around the tree and it wasn't

long and there's that big noise on that side

too. When they walked back, that guy's face was

glowing just like Jim's. That morning we made

contact with a terrorist, and that guy got shot

through the head. And I was wondering many times,

what would have happened if I allowed my fear

of man to stop me from entering into the dimension

where nothing is impossible? Come on, stand on

your feet and give God a praise offering. Will

you go ahead and just praise him? Glory to God.

Glory to God. Come on, don't stop. Hallelujah.

Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Will you

raise your hands and just for a while, just in

your own way, just talk to God for a while, out

loud this time. And if it's okay for you to just

pray in tongues, just do that for a while. Hallelujah.

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