Life Conference 2026 (Friday PM) - Jim Hockaday (February 6, 2025) | Life Bible Church

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enjoy this week's message. Praise the Lord. Amen.

Remain standing for just a moment. Lift your

hands with me. Father, thank you so much. For

this wonderful place where you're so welcomed.

And now, Lord God, we turn our attention to the

wonderful presence of the Holy Spirit. We thank

you that he was poured out upon us because Jesus

so beautifully removed all the barriers by removing

our sin. Thank you, Lord, that we can have access

to the Father. But I do take my right to say

in this room here tonight, the anointing of God

shall destroy every yoke and remove every bondage.

In this room here tonight, I release to the very

molecules of the air that we breathe healing

anointing in this room for that which has come

to destroy. Has been removed. And now the filling

of God's presence. Into the very atmosphere.

Is even the healing power. That shall bring deliverance.

As people breathe. In this house. From this point

on. Now Father we thank you. That something amazing

is happening right now. As we speak. And we yield

to it. And this is the presence. The anointing.

And it shall become. more tangible, more real,

more alive with each moment we minister and speak.

And for that, we give you praise. Amen, amen,

amen. You may be seated. Praise the Lord. Hallelujah.

Well, it's our privilege, my wife Erin and I.

Erin, stand up for a moment. So glad she gets

to travel. We started out traveling together

with Kenneth Hagin Sr. years ago. And in what

was called the Ramus Singers and Band, which

was his group. And of course, you know, we were

the crusade team. So you learn to do everything,

you know, from catching the folks. I think in

those years, you know, we would have meetings

of 10 ,000 people and meetings of 22 ,000 registered,

10 to 15 ,000 a night in the big civic centers.

And he would ask folks, who wanted to get ministered

to, and sometimes there'd be 2 ,000 and 3 ,000

of those people that would stand up. And back

in those days, we weren't smart enough to have

10 or 12 or 20 men to catch one and rotate, so

we caught them all. So my partner in crime, one

of the other guys in the group, he was behind

me, and we just worked seamlessly. I caught the

body, he caught the head. And we just, one line,

another line, another line, and we would catch

sometimes 2 ,000, 3 ,000 people. The only thing

I wanted to do is get up and just ask everybody

to go on a fast for the rest of the week. But

you know, you'd have some of the strangest things

happen. There's times I caught a suit, but no

one was in it. You know, you get the jacket and

the guy's gone. Another time I caught hair, but...

And then I didn't know what was the bangs and

what were the... I didn't know how to put it

back on. That dear little lady was laying down

there and she went like this. Reached up and

grabbed it and stuck it back and went right back

down. So we could stand here all night and tell

you stories about that. But we just had a tremendous,

a wonderful time as younger folks, you know,

traveling with Brother Hagin and learning from

him. And it was just wonderful. And then, of

course, we start a family. We've got three. girls

and young ladies now, and they're doing tremendously

well. We've got five grandchildren, and the sixth

is on the way in the next month and a half, another

little girl. So we've got three boys. We'll have

three girls, and we just love them to pieces.

All of you grandparents, you know what I'm talking

about. Somehow or another, it's just really,

really awesome. Praise the Lord. And having the

little boy first. was so awesome to me. I mean,

two of my three girls can throw a really good

football, but then I was able to really get that

into my grandchild. So one afternoon he took

off running at his mom who was sitting on the

floor and put his head in her chest. And she

just looked around as she gasped for breath and

said, Dad, what'd you do? And I said, I taught

him how to tackle. I'm sorry. And I didn't teach

him who to tackle, but... He decided his mom

was, anyhow. So those are fun moments, praise

the Lord. And we're just enjoying, again, we're

all those years that Erin just gave of herself

to be a wonderful mom and take care of the kids.

Now we get to continue to travel together and

do ministry together, praise the Lord. So it's

wonderful to be with you. Your pastors are amazing,

amen? Pastor Brad and Jenny. And they just have

such a good spirit about them. I'm not done asking

them questions. I am learning all I can learn.

Praise the Lord. And I see the anointing on them,

the presence of God in a place like this. You

know, we travel so much and most of the time

you have to bring your own anointing. I don't

know if you know what that means. That just means

I can't necessarily count on, you know, the worship

or anyone else to help me. And so I have to come

loaded all by myself. You know what I mean? But

here, it's just so wonderful to have a presence.

Amen. Amen. And so I'm going to enjoy every little

bit of it. And then to be with the two fellas

here, Dr. Greg Hood. And you just blessed me

so much, sir. I really, really enjoyed that today.

And then he is so normal. But, you know, he's

hick, though. I get that. And most rednecks are

real normal. That's the good part about him.

You can have a real natural conversation with

him. And you can. And I'm gleaning off of him

as well. And then my dear friend, Bishop Tony

Kemp, never ceases to amaze me. His sermons,

I can't write fast enough. And then half of what

I write, I have to go back and look at it again.

Does anybody know what I'm talking about? He's

a little bit like E .W. Kenyon to me. Where you

read one page and then you say, you know, if

I really want to get this, I need to read that

same page two or three more times. Because it's

simple, but it's deep. And it carries weight.

How many of you are enjoying the ministers that

have been ministering to you? Thank you, Lord.

Thank you, Lord. The body of Christ is very vast.

And, you know, if you stay in just one little

group, you miss out on so much. And Aaron and

I are so thankful that we are at this conference.

And I also wanted to say to the musicians and

to the staff, thank you for doing what you do.

I understand. We have been in the HELPS ministry

for a long time with Brother Hagin. We never

asked for anything, but we worked our tails off

to provide an atmosphere for the people. And

I see what you're doing. And thank you so much

for all of it. Even to those that are blessing

us with the food that you bless us with. Thank

you so much. It means a lot to us. And it certainly

makes it easy for us to give our best. Amen?

All right. So just a few thoughts here. I've

got some product out there. And it's okay if

I take it all home. But, you know, you don't

know me. And I realize that. And I know you're

looking at me a little strange. I'm going to

work on that for just in a couple minutes, okay?

Just in case you enjoy what you're hearing tonight,

we've got some things you could take home with

you. So this one right here is our latest book

called What's Next, Papa? It's all about, and

it comes actually from some of those experiences

with my grandchildren. You know, you can't just

play with them once. You can't do one fun thing.

You're stuck for hours. What's next, Grandpa?

What are we going to do next, Grandpa? And then

the next one comes. And the next one, what are

we going to do, Grandpa? And if they jump on

your back once, well, you have to have them on

your back for at least 30 or 40 minutes. Well,

what's the possibility it's supposed to be that

way with us and God? In other words, have we

bought into an idea of Christianity where it's

just more religious, where the idea is to get

here at 10 o 'clock on a Sunday into a building

instead of doing life with Jesus? And enjoying

the presence of the Holy Ghost like all day long.

Is it possible that we can pray without ceasing?

Which means to interact with God constantly.

We've got some wonderful testimonies. We've got

a YouTube channel called Adventures in Grace

where we tell all kinds of testimonies of just

normal people that have now begun to experience

God regularly throughout the week. So their Christianity

is not tied to just how much they study, how

much they pray, whether or not their attendance

is perfect at their church. It's tied to an ongoing

living relationship where they're experiencing

God by acknowledging him and looking for him

in their life. If you're going to seek and find,

you have to look. If you don't look, you won't

find because that's not how you seek. You know

you've got a whole world against you to seek

and look and find God on a daily basis. Amen.

And this world is vying for the affections of

your heart. And I'm telling you, it's very, very

simple to experience God. It's just not easy.

What do you mean by that? Your patterns, habits,

and routines will come against you to experience

something so simple that you just haven't known

could be real. And to change those habits, patterns,

and routines is going to take some consistency.

We've got another book out there called The Miraculous

Gospel of John. It's a commentary to the Gospel

of John. This commentary is tainted a little

bit towards why did Jesus say what he said? Why

did he do what he did? If I can get into his

mind and think what he did or said before he

said it and did it, I can actually duplicate

it because we are required to do the works of

Jesus. Amen. Life University uses this at one

of their textbooks and so we're thankful for

that. It's really, really helping people. A real

good book here. It's small. And it's easy to

read, but it's pretty dynamic. It's called Identity

Crisis. And without saying too much, I think

the world really needs that book and others like

it in the day we're living. People are really

struggling to find out what's real. And even

us Christians have to ask ourselves over all

the years that we've done Christianity, how's

it working for you? Now that seems a little bit

snotty, but at the same time, if it's not working

for you, then we need to do something about that.

And it's very interesting how we can go for years

and years and years and somehow within the human

psyche is the ability to bury what you don't

like about yourself and what's not working so

that you can get up on another day and somehow

look yourself in the face and convince yourself

that you like you. But the moment you're willing

to expose who you are is the moment you're willing

or you're going to have the opportunity to experience

God. I live by this. If you're not willing to

be wrong, you'll never be right. If you're not

willing to lose something, you'll never have

it. If you can't die, you will not know what

it's like to live. You've got to be willing to

die. Come on, there's other religions that think

that there's 72 virgins on the other side of

life that are willing to blow themselves up,

and us Christians are so afraid to put ourselves

out there. Come on, like A .W. Tozer said about

100 years ago. He said real faith is where you

put yourself on purpose in a position where you

can't go back. Pseudo -faith is where you have

a way out just in case God fails you. One translation

of Hebrews 11 .1 says now faith is betting your

life on the unseen realities of God. Now that

moves me. I don't know if it moves you. In other

words, I believe there's something out there

and I'm willing to take a jump. right off the

plank and put myself in a position where I go

under or I go over, but tally -ho, here we go.

And you've got to be able to step beyond yourself

if you want to find what you can't find with

you. Well, thank you, praise the Lord, for all

that enthusiasm. We might just continue. I'll

tell you a personal story that happened in August

just to give you an idea where we're going. I

was running up my driveway and I've been healthy,

very healthy, pretty much all my life. There's

a couple of things that happened in my life,

but thank the Lord, the Lord's touched my body.

And I've moved past those things years ago. I'm

running up the driveway and for the first time

in my life, it felt like somebody, as far as

my heart's concerned, my heart's always been

fine. It felt like somebody reached inside my

heart, grabbed it and just wanted to break it

right in half. And I was, I lost all my breath.

The pain was so sharp. It drove me almost to

my knees. I caught myself on my knees. I had

no breath in me. And I said out of my mouth,

oh Lord, this isn't so good. And I said it with

a smile on my face. And I made it enough to reach

over while I was trying to get a breath and took

my pulse. My pulse went. And then stopped. And

that was my pattern. And when I had that, I said,

Lord, this isn't so good either. And I just smiled.

You say, why'd you smile? Because God don't make

bad hearts. And this is a lie. And this isn't

true. And it can't be true. And it can't have

anything to do with me unless. I empower it.

And if I empower it, that means I yield to it.

When a temptation comes, does that mean you sin?

No. Symptoms are to sickness what a temptation

is to sin. A symptom isn't sickness until you

believe it is. Why? Because himself took my infirmity

and bore my sickness. And either that's true

or it's not. And if it is true, then this which

has been taken can't be real. Come on, even the

movie Divergent. Isn't it terrible that we'll

watch a movie and get more sometimes out of a

movie? Spiritually than you do at 10 of the best

churches in the world? And that girl, you know,

in Divergent. She's going through the little

serum that's put into her neck so she goes through

the little testing of the thing that would scare

her or some of her fears and they're put up on

a screen and it's kind of played against her

to see how she's going to react and she's out

in a big field and there's crows circling getting

ready to come and attack her and in that field

it's real swampy and there's some branches in

the field that are on fire. And the crows come

and begin to peck at her and she begins to move

and she does right into the swamp and she falls

down right next to a little body of water. And

those crows peck at her and peck at her and peck

at her. And she looks into the water. She sees

her reflection and says, this isn't real. And

immediately goes into the water. She comes up

on the other side in a little Houdini plexiglass

with water coming in from the top enclosed where

it's going to drown her. She takes her last breath,

goes down in, looks at her reflection, takes

her finger and says, this isn't real and taps

on and the glass shatters and she comes out of

it. Then asked by the guy that puts her in that,

how did you do that? And when I saw that, I said,

that's exactly what's being role played to us

on a daily basis. All kinds of worldliness that

doesn't have tangibility to it unless we give

it our power. Well, I got myself into the house.

I never even thought about calling an ambulance.

Why? Because it can't be real. Did you tell your

wife? Why would I need to? It can't be real.

I went about my day. Four hours later, I still

have all the symptoms. But I know it has no power.

I laid across the bed and in came my wife. Just

taking a moment just to get quiet. Because the

first thing I did when I got in my house is I

went into my room, I got quiet and I found God.

It's amazing what happens when you find him.

Because his perspective on what's going on looks

a lot different than the worldly perspective

of what your eyes see. And he made me to know

everything was just fine. And as long as he's

involved, that means I have a manifestation.

People ask me all the time, how come people died?

My aunt was the greatest Christian there was

in the church. She was a woman full of faith

and she died believing God. And I have to tell

them, this is the reason why. Every healing has

the Holy Ghost involved. And if she wasn't in

some way, shape or form, you didn't involve the

Holy Spirit. You weren't connected. He's the

manifester. He's what makes it work. He's the

one that produces the product. You've got to

be connected to him. When you are, things change.

We've got a whole book that shows us from cover

to cover, God never fails. So if you're not making

headway, you've got to step back and find God.

A friend of my mom, she called me. She's got

a tumor. It's growing and it's bleeding. And

she said to me on the phone, I'm doing more than

I've ever done before. I'm reading more, praying

more, confessing more. What am I supposed to

do? And isn't it interesting that her identity

to God had to do with what she was doing, not

at all what Christ has done. And she wanted me

in the midst of telling me she's doing more to

tell her to do something else. So I said to her

without thinking, and that usually works best

for me. I said, for the next two weeks, don't

read your Bible, don't pray. And I said, don't

confess a thing. And she got quiet on the other

end of the phone. And when she came back, she

said, can you repeat that, please? And I laughed

like you did. I said, it really wasn't that difficult.

All I said is the next two weeks, don't read

your Bible, don't pray, and don't confess a thing.

And then she snapped at me. What am I supposed

to do? And I said, find God. She said, what do

you mean? I said, well, if God were actually

involved in what you're doing, you wouldn't have

a tumor. And then she called my mom and she said,

I'm not supporting your son anymore. And then

a month later, she died. So that doesn't mean

you have to support me. Turn your Bibles over

to Genesis chapter two. Oh, we've been enjoying

ministry. And at the same time, we stay on our

knees all the time. I had someone that knew me

30 years ago preaching like a wild man in prayer

and healing school. And she said, you're just

as passionate now as you ever were, if not more.

How do you keep that? I said, well, we minister

to the sick. And I said, with all the wonderful

things we see, we still see people die. And I

said, that's what keeps me on my face. There's

more to learn. There's more to understand. There's

more of this presence than we walk in on a regular

basis. We've not tipped the iceberg. A friend

of mine who went home every single night and

found out how to go. That's important. Because

if you find out how to go home and experience

God, it's just like going anywhere else. Like

if I know how to get to Dr. Hood's house and

he's given me an open invitation, well, I could

show up in a couple of days. I could show up

three days in a row because I know how to get

there. So he would go back every single night,

every single night, every single night, all night

long. And he was a cowboy. Looked just like Wild

Bill Hickok. Tell them where home is. Home is

heaven. He'd leave his body and go home. He spent

all night long in the presence of God, Jesus,

and the Holy Ghost. He called the guys. Said,

I went home last night with the guys. He was

taking his dog, his new dog, to a training facility

for three months and his dog was his best friend

until I came along. Oh, he didn't like people

at all. Every test he took said does not work

well with people. But the Lord told me to work

on the ranch for free and just honor him, bless

him. And we developed a relationship and one

day he looked at me and he said, don't tell anybody

I said this. He said, but I really like you.

You're my best friend. That meant a lot. And

he was taking his dog to a facility for three

months. And his dog was his best friend. And

he was going a little faster than he thought

he was going. And a police officer pulled him

over. And the policeman, you know, said, roll

down your window. And he rolled it down about

that much. Police officer looked inside and said,

sir, do you know how fast you're going? And he

said, officer, I really don't care. And the officer

said, you don't care? He said, no, sir, I don't

care. He said, why don't you care? He said, because

I'm taking my dog to a facility for three months.

That's my best friend. He said, I'm a little

melancholy right now. I don't care how fast I'm

going. He said, well, you're going 97 in a 45.

He said, well, actually, I thought I was on the

highway. He said, that'd be 97 in a 75. I'd still

pull you over. He said, now don't you care? He

said, no, I don't care. He said, you don't care

if I give you a ticket? Do you know how much

it's going to be? He said, somewhere between

$250 and $300. He said, well, actually, you're

very accurate. You don't care? He said, no, I

don't care. Give me the ticket. And then he said

this. He said, I guess the guys just have a really

warped sense of humor. They think this is really

funny while I'm spending time with them that

I would get pulled over by you. The police officer

says, guys, who's in that truck with you? He

said, officer, it's a truck. You can see everything.

It's just a dog and I. He said, then who are

the guys? He said, that be God, Jesus, and the

Holy Ghost. And he goes, oh, you can't talk about

God like that. He said, yes, you can. He said,

that's disrespectful. He said, not when you spend

time with him, it's not. And he said, what are

you talking about? And they got into this theological

argument for about five minutes. And all of a

sudden, the cop comes out and says, well, I'll

tell you what, if you really know them, like

you say you know them, do you think they'd help

me? Because I can't hardly lift my arm. I busted

it up in the force. He said, I can't get it only

about that high. And BJ said, well, I'll tell

you what, I'm going to tell you exactly how to

get it healed. He said, but you got to listen

to everything I say. By this time, he rolled

the window down the rest of the way. He said,

now back up from the car. And he said, let me

ask you a couple questions. Did you have a right

to pull me over? He said, yes, I did. Did you

have a right to give me a ticket? He said, well,

of course I do. Under law, I can give you a ticket.

He said, could you even take my car with how

fast I was going? He said, I could. He said,

then with the same feelings and emotions that

give you the right. to do what you said you could

just do, you step away from the car and you ask

them with the same feelings of absoluteness and

the same emotions of surety, heal my shoulder.

He said, but if you can't give them that same

feeling and emotion, don't waste their time and

don't waste mine. That police officer stood back

and said, God, I'm asking. He said, do you see

what he just did? He said, I see what he just

did. He said, my wife's never going to believe

it. He said, slow down. He just went back into

his car and drove off. There's more to a relationship

with God than we've thought. And it certainly

isn't just showing up in the building. Let me

make a statement. Everything you do, like coming

to church, which I ask you, please keep coming,

especially here. God's here. Reading your Bible,

please keep reading your Bible. That's going

to keep you on the straight and narrow. Praying,

yes. Worshiping, confessing the word. All of

those things you don't have to do. But all of

those things will make him more real to you where

you can actually walk with him and talk with

him. And anything that contributes to the realness

of God in your life, you need to do it. But if

you're reading and you're studying and you're

confessing for some religious idea that makes

you feel like you've done what you're supposed

to do for the day, now everything's just going

to be perfect, you're missing out on the idea

that God wants to do life with you every single

step of the way. He doesn't want to just have

your fanfare for one hour and then, okay, see

you later. Proverbs 3, 5, and 6 in the Message

Bible says, in everything you do and everywhere

you go, listen to his voice, which means all

day long he's speaking. Are you listening? Amen,

amen. Let me just help some of you right now

because the way that you're looking at me, you're

over in Genesis chapter 2. Genesis chapter 2.

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God will even heal you and touch you tonight

whether you like me or not. You don't have to

like the preacher to get healed. I'm planning

on being a burr in your saddle tonight. It's

my job to take away all your options. You won't

like that. And leave you with Jesus only. So

for any reason, if you choose to deny him, at

least you'll know you did. Come on, we're going

to have a good time. But I'm watching people

say, Ethel, did we come to the right service?

I'm in healing school. One of the students, they

went ahead and had their mom come. She sat in

one service with me. She said to her daughter,

she said right away, she goes, I don't think

I like this guy. And about 10 minutes later,

she nudged again. She goes, honey, I don't think

I like this guy. And just as she said that, I

said, you, right there. And she turned around

to go, me? I said, yeah, you. Do you want to

be healed? Now, she just said, I don't like you.

I didn't know that. If I'd have known that, my

New Yorker might have come out, you know. Are

you talking about me? I said, you right there.

Do you want to be healed? She said, yes. Instantly,

God touches her and heals her. I found out later,

you don't have to like me. God touched you. But

I'm endeavoring to move you. I don't want you

to be the same in the way that you came. Amen?

So let's let God touch us in these next few moments,

and we'll experience the presence of the Lord.

Now, in this room, there'll be many shifts of

the atmosphere. And you'll sense it in just a

couple minutes. God will start touching people.

Gross will start disappearing. This is the way

I know him. Now, I grew up Baptist, so I didn't

know him at all. I knew about him. And he was

my savior, but we weren't taught to interact

with him. I'd be on my way to school as a little

tiny kid, say, you know, I wonder why such and

such, and all of a sudden an answer comes, well,

you know, it's just because of this. I thought

to myself, man, you're pretty smart. See, no

one told me God speak back to you. Now, at the

same time, I'd get anybody I could saved. Four

years of age, I knew the Roman road. I got saved

as a four -year -old. Been saved for 60 years.

I'd go into my friend's house. I'd take them

into the closet. You say, that's what the preacher

said. You go into the closet if you're going

to pray. I'd take them into the closet. They

were small closets, but we were small kids. And

I'd preach them the Roman road. All sin falling

short of the glory of God. None unrighteous,

no, not one. If you confess through the mouth

and believe with your heart, thou shalt be saved.

With the heart, man believes. None unrighteous,

the confession is made in salvation. Whosoever

shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be

saved. And I'd ask him, do you want to receive

Jesus? Those that said yes, it was a real easy

salvation. Those that said no, I'd hold their

head down until they said yes. I didn't know

how good I was. I had 100 % salvations. If I'd

have grown as big as Tony, I'd still have 100

% salvations. Beat hell right out of you. Get

heaven in you. Bless God. Don't you say no. You

say yes right now. That cowboy BJ, he came to

one of my meetings doing nine Mondays in a row.

We had 121 people that signed up to be chaplains

at a hospital and I'm training them to release

the anointing. That's what we're talking about

tonight. He showed up for the second one. He's

not born again. Now he's a real cowboy. He has

a real problem with wannabes. A wannabe cowboy

wears boots, has buckle, but it has a jacked

up truck you can't bail hay from. And they live

in an apartment in the city, not on a ranch.

So he doesn't like that because it does a bad

thing for the real cowboy, see. It lessens the

real. And then he would talk to me about wanting

to be a Christian. Well, I won't go there, but

anyhow. He walks in, walks up to me and says,

wow, that was really good. My name's B .J. I

shook his hand. My dad taught me to shake a good

hand. Amen. My name's Jim Hockett. He said, man,

that was really good. I appreciate that very

much. I said, B .J. Why'd you come to meetings

like this? He said, I want to heal horses like

you're healing people. I said, well, you'll do

better on horses than I do on people. I says,

horses aren't thinking. I got to change the way

these folks think. Right? Right? Horse just stands

there. I said, would you like to receive Jesus?

He goes like this. No, I just want to heal horses.

I said, okay. I said, I'll see you next week.

He says, yes, you will. He came that next week

after the service. He beelined it right back.

He said, man, Jim, this is really good stuff.

This is good stuff. And I said, now we got a

problem. He said, what's the problem? I said,

everything you're saying is good is borrowed

material. I said, if you like what I'm saying,

you really like the guy it comes from. And I

said, this time I'm not asking. I'm telling you.

Give me your hand right now. You're going to

repeat these words after me and you're going

to mean it from your heart and you're going to

get saved. Well, when I said it like that, he

goes, okay. I grabbed his hand, a simple little

prayer, and I said, amen. He said, amen. And

then I leaned down because he was a couple steps

below me. He's 6 '3", I'm 6. I leaned down and

said, it's going to get real spooky from here.

And then I walked away. And he's over there going,

what, what, what? That next week he came and

said, you're never going to believe what happened.

I said, what do you mean? He said, well, we got

a horse on the ranch. He said, it's got an eighth

of an inch homeless eye and it's blind, got bone

spurs and arthritis. He said, I prayed for it.

Well, we hadn't got to the prayer part yet. I

said, what'd you say? He said, I put my arms

around and said, God says you're fine. I said,

was anybody around when you said that? He goes,

oh, yeah. He said, veterinarians around, cowboys,

cowgirls around. I said, what did they think

of your prayer? He said, well, they cussed me

out. I said, what did you say to them? He said,

I cussed them out. I said, what happened? He

said, in three days' time, the hole covered up,

the horse can see, bone spurs are gone, arthritis

is gone. He said, get this, brand new enamel

on all its teeth. Now, see, somebody said, well,

I don't know if I believe that. Well, see, you

know, in the horse world, they actually check

up on that stuff. So within a week, he got a

call from OSU Medical Center saying, bring that

horse down here. And after eight hours, that

little Baptist lady, 4 '11", came out to a 6

'3 cowboy, stuck her finger in the air and said,

who do you think you are playing God? He looked

down and said, ma 'am, a little too late for

that. The horse is already healed. I thought

to myself, Lord, this guy's experiencing God.

That next week he came to me and said, now, you

are not going to believe what just happened.

I said, lay it on me. What happened? He said,

I'm in the feed store. He said, the owner's in

the back getting my order. In walks this woman

hollering, somebody help me. Somebody please

help me. Help me. I said, I walked over and said,

ma 'am, what do you need? She said, it's my cat.

I said, you're what? She said, my cat. I said,

what'd you do to your cat? She said, I slammed

the door in his head. I don't think it's doing

very good, sir. Sir, could you come take a look

at it? He said, well, I'll take a look at it.

They went out to the car, and it's in the trunk,

so she didn't kill it. She smothered it, you

know? The trunk lid opens up. There's a cat laying

on its side with his tongue. hanging out of its

mouth. And in his good Oklahoma colloquial expression,

he said, ma 'am, that cat's as dead as a can

of corned beef. Still haven't figured that one

out yet, but I don't think that's good. She said

to him, well, I'm a Christian. Now, what I didn't

tell you is this guy's a genius. 17 author books

in Barnes and Noble on horses. Three earned PhDs.

He aced his SATs. He aced his ACTs. He reads

5 ,000 words per minute with 97 % retention.

He read the Bible as a nine -year -old in four

hours from cover to cover. A genius. The government

wanted him in a think tank and he gave him the

middle finger. Sorry if that's descriptive, but

that's what we're dealing with here. This guy's

off the chart. So you got to understand something

about smart people. You know, I didn't know this

until I met a smart person. I mean, he even got

upset about the 3 % that he doesn't retain. I

said, well, that's my part. Leave it alone. When

you're real smart, things have to add up. See,

folks that aren't as sharp, two plus two can

equal what it needs to equal to make what needs

to happen, happen. Like that's why people say

we're playing a game. Oh, we changed that rule.

Well, then that doesn't make the game what the

game is. Well, yes, it does. We just, no. See,

when you're real smart, the rules define the

game. So the rules have to stay the rules or

you've changed the game. Might as well change

the name to it. See, two plus two has to equal

four. It can't equal five just because you want

it to. So when she said, I'm a Christian, he's

thinking, if she knows God and she's got a dead

cat, something's wrong. Because God made the

cat. Like he would like it more than her. No,

I know. I know. I get this. I understand. See,

when you're a Christian, you let so many things

go because you don't become accurate. So you

think to yourself right now, well, I'm a dog

person anyhow. There's too many cats. I mean,

is it a really big deal? You can find a stray

anywhere. But when you're accurate, things have

to add up. So he looked and he said, so? And

then she said, well, I prayed. Now it's worse.

Because you're connected to God. You actually

asked him to do something about the cat, but

it didn't happen, which means it's not God's

fault. Hello, it's not the cat's fault. It's

dead as a can of corned beef. So it has to be

the lady. So he said, what'd you pray? And she

got real misty -eyed. She said, I pray God have

mercy on my cat. He said, mercy? It needs life.

It's like dead. And she said, I don't know anything

about that. And he said, I know. To which she

said, well, I don't know what you mean. And he

said, and this is his first prayer for a human

now. He said, ma 'am, I'm not praying for the

cattest cattest cat I've ever seen. He said,

but I will pray for you. And he put his hand

on her shoulder. And these are the words he prayed.

God, please, please open her eyes just enough

so she can believe just a little. And then you

can be God. In other words, you're not able to

be who you are because she's in the way. So you

don't need to open her eyes like to see everything.

Just enough. So she can believe just a little.

You can be God. When he said that, it moved her.

When's the last time you've been moved? From

your heart. And she said, oh God, I do believe.

Meow. The cat sat up. And she looked at him and

said, it's a miracle. And he said, no, ma 'am,

this ain't no miracle. She said, yes, it is.

My cat was dead and now it's alive. This is a

miracle. And he said, no, ma 'am, that's not

a miracle. She said, well, if it's not, what

is a miracle? He said, the miracle here is you

being a Christian all these years. Today, you

finally believe God. Now, someone say, I don't

know if I believe that. Three days later, she

calls him hysterical. BJ, BJ, BJ, you can't believe

what just happened. What happened? And he says,

well, I took my cat to the vet. And my cat, or

the vet, scanned the cat. It was a cat scan.

It actually was. And the vet said, I don't know

what you did to crush the skull of this cat,

but I do not know. and have no knowledge of what

put the skull back together. And the vet began

to scan the rest of the cat. And as the vet did,

big old saucer tears started dropping from his

face. And she said, Doc, what's wrong? He said,

I spayed your cat years ago. All the female organs

are back in. Your cat can have kittens. To which

BJ said, ma 'am, I'll give you the money to get

a spade again. We don't need any more ugly cats

in Colton. Now I want to share something with

you because this guy caught on really quick to

something so simple. Genesis chapter two, verse

seven. And the Lord God formed man of the dust

of the ground and breathed into his nostrils

the breath of life and man became a living being.

So let's look at it this way. The Lord God formed,

so that means he had a physical body. The Lord

God made his physical body and then breathed

into the physical body. The breath of life. Now

here's an interesting thought. What if God was

in a trial run? Like he's making a human, but

he never made a human before. So you know what

it means? Kind of like Goldilocks. You know,

the porridge is a little bit too hot. The porridge

is a little bit too, oh, the porridge is just,

the bed is too hard. The bed is too soft. The

bed is just right. What if he was too porous

and God, and the breath went in and went, right

there. That didn't work. What if he was too non

-porous, like plastic, and God breathed the breath

in and he bounced right off it and took off somewhere

else? That didn't work either. God made the body

so perfect that he could breathe spirit inside

of it. It would not only be maintained inside,

but inside that body. The Spirit was able to

reveal itself to the outside at the same time.

That's pretty salty. You know what I'm talking

about? Amen? You know, we were years ago with

kids, you know, or girls playing volleyball.

We're in... Fort Worth, Texas in this high hotel.

And we're up there and Aaron opens the curtains,

goes, oh, there's one of my favorite stores.

So I came over to see what was the famous store.

And I kept looking, I look and I said, honey,

I don't see anything that would be your favorite

store. She says, right over there. I said, where?

She said, right over there. And I said, the container

store. And she said, I love the container store.

Would you like to go? And it's like, no. And

in about 40 minutes, I was walking through the

door with her. You saw that coming. And there

were big ones and there were little ones and

there were thin ones and there were thick ones

and there were deep ones and there were shallow

ones and there were red ones and blue ones and

green ones and white ones. When I took a look

at that, I said, this is what you like? She said,

yes, I love it. And she went into the store and

I said, I'll be right here up in the front, found

a chair. So I walked there and walked back and

I was a good husband. Amen. What? You guys don't

do that kind of stuff? Yeah, sure you do. God

made man as a container. His body is like a container.

It can contain God at the same time it can reveal

God. Now I want you to see this. This is very

important because tonight God's ministering to

people and you might think it's difficult to

be healed but God thinks very other. Why? Because

he made your body to receive of the presence

of God. And that presence is potentially in full

charge right here tonight. And if one person

would believe in it, we'll see things take place

right there in your seats before we ever minister

to you or lay hands on you. And this is just

normal. Why? Because Jesus already paid the price

for your healing 2 ,000 years ago. You don't

have to convince him to do something. Amen. He's

looking for somebody to believe. Why? Because

he made your body so porous and so perfectly

as a container that he can get in that body,

he can manipulate things, and he can then come

out of that body and reveal. A healing and a

deliverance where all of a sudden a tumor disappears

and an ear opens and an eye starts to see things

on your page that you couldn't see before unless

you had it about arm's length out here. And all

of a sudden hips are healed in this room and

bones start moving in this room and backs start

being healed and pain starts disappearing in

this room. Hearts are healed in this room. Livers

and kidneys start to work properly. A prostate's

healed in this room. Come on, as I'm speaking

right now, God's saying something to somebody

in this room. And surely if a horse can get healed,

and if a cat can get raised up from the dead,

no telling what could happen in a church like

this. So my next verse, it says, Genesis 2 .25,

and they were both naked, the man and the wife,

but were not ashamed. What does that tell you?

That tells me that they probably had clothes

on. You say, why does it tell you that? Because

Genesis 3, 7 says, then the eyes of both of them

were open and they knew that they were naked

and they sewed fig leaves together and made themselves

covering. So all of a sudden they knew of their

nakedness once they sinned. And what does the

Bible tell us? For all have sinned and fallen

short of the, or you could say it like this,

all have sinned and lost their glory clothes.

God made man to walk in the glory. How do you

know that? For a couple of reasons. One of them

is he made us just like him and he walks in the

glory. Come on, I'm telling you. If God walked

like John Wayne, then Adam did too. This is what

attracted the devil to them is they had clothing

that he once wore. was. He knew the significance

of it because you really know something when

you've had it and then you've lost it. And when

you've lost it, you think, should have kept it

on. He was the anointed cherub until he sinned

before God. God took that clothing away and he

fell like lightning to the earth, hit the earth

in a big ball of dust. Now he's what? He doesn't

have the anointing. And he's able to go in that

garden and he sees two creatures that walk around

just like God and they're glowing in the presence.

Do you know that the unseen world sees what's

on us? You just happen to be looking in the mirror

and keep seeing your flesh. But the day you see

past your flesh and see your spirit is the day

that you rise up against everything that will

come against the anointing. Because then you

realize at that time, I've actually got something

that they can't stand. Praise the Lord. And you

start using it on purpose. God didn't make us

welcome mats to be walked all over. Amen. He

made us in his image and in his likeness. Listen,

listen, listen. Even a sinner by the name of

Cain had the ability to rule. The darkness that

was infiltrating his mind to murder his brother.

And he's not even saved. And you know what's

amazing about that story? He recognized the presence

of God as a sinner ready to commit murder and

he heard the voice of God in complete sentences.

Look at how far we've gone away from something

so simple that even someone under sin had it.

You have to understand, Adam and Eve and the

sons, they had a mind renewal, but from the opposite

direction. See, we live in this world. We only

know this world. We get saved and we have to

learn about our privileges and our rights and

renew our mind to who we really are in Christ

so that that which actually abides in us can

be used or made manifest. They knew God. They

understood God. They walked with God. And when

they sinned, they had to get their minds renewed

to the flesh and the world connection versus

the spirit and the God connection. So they still

retained the ability to hear him in complete

sentences. If we can just get the church to recognize

the presence of God and hear him in complete

sentences, we'll turn this world inside out and

upside down. Because the moment you've got firepower

behind you, you stop being so weenie about everything

and you'll walk out into the darkness. You'll

wade out into the muck and mire of Satan's kingdom

and destroy the works of the devil. I'm laying

across that bed. My wife walks in and I said,

honey, the reason why I'm laying here is because,

and I told her what happened as I ran up that

driveway. Now, back in March, I had a blood work

done. My blood work's always been so good that

when I turned 60 and the life insurance people

called me to say, we're raising your rates to

like $480 versus 70. I said, time out. Why would

you do that? Well, because now you're at an age.

I said, what if I'm really healthy? She said,

well, I understand that. I said, no, seriously,

what if I'm really healthy? And I began to sell

snow to an Eskimo. I said, you have no idea how

healthy I am. And I said, guess what? When you

have your personal, I don't know if we can, I

said, no, I actually know that you can. So when

you have your individual come and take my blood,

you're gonna find out how healthy I am and you're

gonna wanna extend my policy. And all of a sudden,

out of the blue, she said, you know what, we're

gonna send somebody to your house. I said, well,

that's just what I said. But anyhow, and we're

gonna take your blood and if you're really healthy,

we'll extend your policy. I'm thinking, I just

got through saying that. But anyhow, I let her

say it like she thought she came up with it,

okay? And someone comes to the house, they take

my blood. A couple of weeks later, she calls

me up and she says, you're really, really healthy.

We've extended your policy for 15 more years

at $76. I said, thank you very much. That's what

I was telling you. So for the first time, when

I got a report back, I had all this red bark

over there on my kidneys. I've never had any

problems with kidneys. But a doctor, a friend

of mine got a hold of that. They said, you got

some serious problems here and you only got a

couple of years before you're going to be, and

she's named all this stuff that's going to be

happening. We said, what'd you do? I went right

into the room where I got quiet and I found God.

Wow, that's become an amazing thing to do. I

practice it all the time. This is my body. Two

plus two equals four, four plus four equals eight,

eight plus eight equals 16, 16, 16, 32, 32, 32,

64. That's my mind. What's the rest of me? That's

me. That's the real me. And inside the real me,

is the real him. And if you'll practice that,

you can find him at a snap of a finger and immediately

hear his voice, recognize his presence, have

the word of the Lord. And I got in that place

that was just so nice. And all of a sudden I

looked at the Lord, the Lord looked at me and

I said, you're not moved about this one bit.

And he looked at me and he said, no, I'm really

chill about this. I said, well, then I am too.

Thank you very much. Never thought about it.

Another day, two and a half months later, We

were out in San Diego where my doctor friend

is. She said, I'm taking you over to Tijuana

to get you another test. She did, and it came

back a little bit better than the other one.

And then she said, I'm going to get you an MRI.

So she put me in an MRI. And that's in one of

those places when you go on through, you almost

think you're going to the other side. So I said,

hmm. You know, you heard people going through

a tunnel, and then they're on the other side.

But I came back. And the technician called her,

and this is what he said. I think we got the

wrong guy. She said, send me those reports. She

calls me up and she says, it's impossible. I

said, what? She said, you have two perfect kidneys.

I said, well, why wouldn't I? She said, Jim,

you don't understand. Your blood work and then,

this is a medical impossibility. I said, but

it's not impossible with God, right? So she knew

that story. So she walks in and this is what

she does. And I needed this because I'm a person

that moves by challenge. Like, challenge me.

So she walks in and puts her hands on me, and

she goes, hmm, hmm. And then she pats me. She

goes, no, you're good. Walks out. And I thought,

I am. Pushed myself up. Everything disappeared

instantly. Now, what are we talking about? The

tangibility of God. He's in this room. He's real.

The reason why they saw and were naked and now

ashamed is because when the glory left them,

they're left with their physical bodies. Paul

said over in 2 Corinthians chapter 5, he said,

2 Corinthians 5 · chapter mention

I'm groaning. Why are you groaning, Paul? That's

a serious thing. Do you have a tummy problem?

Are you upset? He said, no. It's because I want

to take this mortality of mine and dunk it in

the sea of immortality. And he talked about what?

The glory being on his house, clothing, spiritual

clothing. That's what Adam, that's what Eve had.

When they sinned, they lost that clothing. Now,

guess what they're supposed to do? Now they've

got to walk around. And this is the world of

Adam that we all grew up in. The world of Adam

is the world of you doing what you need to do

in your earthly suit. To fend for yourself. They

didn't know how to make food. God made them food.

They didn't know how to make a shelter. God gave

them shelter. They didn't have to wear clothes.

God gave them clothes. On the way out, he slipped

them some leather. I like his thinking. Amen?

Now think for me. They walked out into a hostile

world and they've got to fend for themselves.

Now they're open to every suggestion under the

sun. And guess what they're leaning upon? Their

own ability. And that's the world that we've

perfected. And we think it's the real world,

but it's not. It's Adam's world. God was really

upset with the Adam's family. That's the reason

why Jesus wasn't the second Adam. He was the

last of the Adams. So he came to fulfill what

Adam messed up. Then he took the family down

into the grave and he didn't resurrect the Adam

family. He came out of the grave as a resurrected

and glorified Christ that as many as would receive

him, to them he gives power to become sons of

God, even to them that believe on his name, who

were born not of the flesh, not of blood, not

of the will of man, but were born, help me, of

God. God beings on this side of the cross. God

-men on this side of the cross. And what were

we clothed with? The glory. Come on, we're told

that if the unseen powers had known what they

were doing in 1 Corinthians 2, if they had known

what they were doing when they crucified the

Lord of glory, they never would have crucified

him because that glory was meant for our glory.

And the great mystery of the church is Christ

in you, the hope of glory. Now help me with this

for a few moments. When Brother Hagin said, I

want you to take over the prayer and healing

center, I said, are you going to help me? And

he laughed. He said, no, I'm not going to help

you. I said, seriously, you're not going to help

me? He said, no. I said, why would you say that?

He said, I had to get it on my own. You get it

on your own. I thought, all right, I'll get it

on my own. Bless God, I will. Now, he had an

open door for me and I would go over all the

time and share with him things that we understood.

But the first three months were horrible. I preached

my heart out until I could hardly talk, lost

my singing voice. We saw more people die than

live. It should have been a hospice home. We

just said next. Yeah, yeah, honestly. I mean,

I couldn't sleep at night for thinking how horrible

we were doing, not representing God in any way,

shape, or form, and yet preaching our hearts

out. Three months of that and I said, Lord, enough

of this. I'm going to find myself something else

to do if you can't help me. I said, here's the

deal. I've learned this because at that particular

time in the faith camp, we were saying things

like this. If you just had enough faith, you'd

get healed. Yeah, but it's the shepherd that

takes the sheep to either the good pasture or

the bad pasture, the good stream or the bad stream.

So I went before God and said things like this.

If you can change me, we can change Healing School.

I need you to fix me. And I laid on the floor,

didn't realize how good of a prayer that was.

And instantly, God began to give me revelation.

And within one month of that revelation, we showed

up at Healing School and the power of God started

dropping all over the room. We changed our voice.

People listen different. They expected to get

something. Just like in this room, if you start

checking yourself, you'll see that there's symptoms

that have disappeared already in this room. When

I shared to you that symptoms to sickness is

the same as temptation to sin, there's some of

you right there that rejected the symptoms that

are in your body, and there's a change happening

in your body right now. But now I've got to experiment

with things. Because I'm in the healing center,

things are beginning to turn around, and I've

got to experiment with the anointing. Remember,

we're containers. The presence can come into

us, but the presence can be revealed through

us. How do you know that? Look at Jesus on the

Mount of Transfiguration. He becomes the example

of someone that as he prayed, didn't say two

weeks into his prayer, didn't say four hours

into his prayer, as he prayed, how come it happened

so quickly? Because he would never allow himself

to be disconnected from the Father. Remember

what he said? I can of myself do nothing. Wait

a minute. He can do anything he wants to. How

could he say I can of myself do nothing? That

is to the degree that he emptied himself and

that is to the degree that he was filled. The

reason why most of us aren't filled very much

is because we don't empty ourselves very much.

He put himself at the disposal of his father

to say I will not make any choice while I'm on

this earth. Everything I see him do is what I

do. Everything I hear him say is what I say.

And to that degree that he emptied himself was

to that degree he was filled. So I began to experiment.

I'm preaching in a service. Service is over.

My hands got real hot. I'm sitting there rubbing

my hands like this. There's a little eight -year

-old boy all the way over there with that little

girl that's got the pink on right there, that

little sweet girl right there. He was way over

there. And I'm sitting right here. Pastor's taking

up the offering. And I'm thinking, Lord, I got

to get rid of this anointing somehow because

this is just like almost irritating. It was so

hot. Already ministered to the people. So I went

like this to him and he finally, I caught his

attention and he said, me? And I said, yes, you,

come here. So he comes all the way across like

this and he comes and he says, what do you want?

And I said, I'm sitting here all alone. Would

you sit with me for a couple of minutes? He said,

okay. And I said, sit right. And before he came,

I put my hand on the chair. And I said, I released

the anointing in this chair. And that power that

was hot went into the chair. My hand became normal.

There was redness in the center of my hand. It

became completely normal. I knew the power was

in the chair. I said, sit right here. And I pointed

to him where I put my hand. He sat down. I folded

my arms and crossed my legs. I looked down like

this. I just winked at him. Went to watch the

pastor like this. In about 10 seconds, I heard

these noises. And I leaned over and said, what

are you doing? He said, I don't know. I said,

why are you doing that? He said, I'm really,

really hot. I said, do you want to go back to

your mom and dad? He said, yes. And he ran real

quickly back to his mom and dad. I just wanted

to prove, see, that the anointing has the ability

to come out, go into something. When it goes

into something, if someone's innocent enough,

it'll come out. You don't know how good those

legs are, but you should find out. Hallelujah.

This presence is amazing. It's all around us

at all times. Jesus is walking through a crowd.

A woman reached us, touched the tassel. Something

came out of me. She knew in herself and felt

something went into me. Both of them felt something.

When Jesus said, who touched me? The disciples

looked around and said, well, Lord, everybody's

touching you. What do you mean who touched you?

But see, they weren't understanding that when

someone believes something, someone just believes

something. Wait a minute. I'm just giving you

the real simple deal here. Someone just believes

something. Someone just believes something. Someone

would believe over here that God's fallen on

them like rain, that symptoms don't mean what

you think they mean, that they're disappearing

right now, that tumors, praise the Lord, are

leaving, pains are leaving. Someone just believes

that. Power's released. Jesus stands, he lifts

his hand, and as he prays, glory starts coming

out of him. Listen very closely to this. When

I was in healing school, I wanted to focus on

something I could bet on 100 % of the time. You

say, what do you mean? I put my focus on the

anointing within instead of the anointing upon.

Well, weren't you operating in gifts? I didn't

even think about gifts. Because as long as I'm

operating with the anointed one, in other words,

the Holy Spirit that's within me, he's the giver

of the gifts. If I'm paying attention to him

and working with him, then most likely I'll operate

in and out of gifts, but I won't have to be mindful

of them. I'm mindful that I actually put... I'm

coming from Tallahassee Airport. I'm trying to

get to a service. I'm about 30 minutes late.

Our plane was delayed. And on the way going there,

because I had given some tip to somebody and

I had an extra couple dollars in my pocket, I

see a guy standing on the side of the road holding

a sign. And I thought, I know I'm late, but there's

no one here. I can quickly just go over. So I

pull over while I put my finger on the auto window

to come down. The window's down. Got my hand

in my pocket. I pull right up and give him the

money. And he does a little blessing on me like

this. And then I read his sign, which says, why

lie? I just want beer. And I thought, you dog,

you know. I wish I could have read that sign

before I gave you that money. But the point of

the story is, because I knew I had it, I could

get it. I got it somewhere. Hold on a second.

I don't have much time. Sorry, pal. I got to

go. See if you don't know where it is. Maybe

you do have it, but you don't know where it is.

Everything about Christianity. is recognition

and awareness. What are you aware of? What do

you recognize? Because what you're not aware

of, what you don't recognize, you won't use.

I said you won't use. The reason why I didn't

fold when I got the heart thing is because I

know too much. I'm willing to bet my life on

that that's a lie and that greater is he that's

in me than he that's in the world. And the moment

you don't care about dying, that's the moment

you can live. I put all my attention on the anointing

within. Why? Because I could control that. What

do you mean? Over in John chapter five, it says

the father gives the life to whom he will. And

he has given the son to have life in himself.

And he also gives to whom he will. What do you

mean? At my will, I can release life. Why? Because

he came that I might have life and have it. What?

More abundantly. In other words, I've got oodles

and oodles of this stuff to release from the

inside. Do you know what life is? It's called

zoe. You know what zoe means? Life in the absolute

sense. Do you know what life in the absolute

sense is? Have you ever studied absolute cold?

Cold isn't like 20 degrees below zero and you're

like, this is so cold. No, absolute cold is the

absence of any warmth whatsoever. If you stepped

into absolute cold immediately, you'd be gone.

Because it would suck out of your body every

ounce of warmth. Because in absolute cold, there

is no warmth. Do you know what absolute life,

Zoe, is? The absence of any sickness, disease,

or death. The moment you release it. And guess

what? We can control that. Why? Because we have

it and we can give what we have. Guess what Peter

and John said? Such as I, oh, such as I have,

give I thee. Wow. Who's struggling in your heart

right in here? Heart. You, ma 'am? Sir? Come

up here real quickly. Hearts. We're going to

minister tomorrow morning as well. We'll finish

up tomorrow morning, whatever we leave behind

tonight. Now, Erin has learned this too. That's

why I love having her help me. Just face me.

Yep, just like that. And everybody else can just

go like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Okay.

Just step up here a little bit. There you go.

Just like that. Sir, right in here. Ma 'am, right

in here. Anybody else with a heart? Well, y 'all

got hearts, but I mean, you need one that needs

healing. Anybody else? Aaron and I know one thing,

and we don't know a lot, but one thing we do

know, and it's the main thing, is I can get what's

in me into you, and so can she. You know how

that began to happen? The Lord said to me one

day, study verbs. I was so happy. You know why

I was happy? Because I knew what one was. Wouldn't

that be terrible if the Lord said, study verbs?

What's a verb? Right? Wouldn't that be horrible?

I need to look that up. I knew what it was. Action.

Like out of your belly will flow rivers of living

water. Why would I study that? Because it gives

me a picture. Something's coming out of me. And

if I see something coming out of me, when I know

I possess the something that can come out of

me, guess what it'll do? It'll come out of me.

And the more I use it, the more confident I become

in it to where I can wear it without even having

to get it out of me. Did you hear what I said?

To where I can wear it. That's what Jesus did.

When that woman touched that tassel in the Aramaic,

the passion translation helps us by saying the

power that was always moving around him went

out of him. See, it's going around him and it

went into a woman. It wasn't just that he had

it in him and he just didn't even know it. And

someone just thought, no, he was aware that something

was around him at all times. This other world

is real. Listen real closely to this statement.

If you want to know the world that you don't

know, you're going to have to turn your back

on the one that you do. It all works on a balance

scale. To be absent from the body is to be present

with the Lord. What's it saying? Well, that's

for death. Use it for life. It's saying to the

degree that he's real to you is the degree that

the world is becoming less and less real. But

if the world is really real to you, you probably

don't know the voice of the Lord as well. Oh,

I want to know the voice of the Lord. Okay, then

turn down the voice that you do. It's not hard.

Your focus is in the wrong place. God is speaking.

What you're not hearing is because what you're

hearing is too loud. Have you ever had kids that

had something to say? Turn that TV down. I can't

hear myself. What? Think. We make this so difficult.

Like I got to jump through hoops. No, you don't.

You're a spirit. Romans 6, 10, and 11 in the

Message Bible says, now that you found out that

sin means nothing to you and speaks a dead language,

God speaks your mother tongue and you hang on

every word. When you're in a foreign airport

and everybody's speaking a language you don't

understand and somebody says, hey John, there's

a McDonald's. You go, oh my gosh, where's the

American? How come you heard that? That's your

mother tongue. We can get good at this, people.

Come on, the writer of Hebrews, Paul tried to

tell us in the fifth chapter, you can become

skilled in discerning of that which is of the

spirit, that which is of the flesh. And you can

step over into the heavenly realm. This is something

you can do. I'm sharing this tonight because

we're the prevailing church. I'm not sharing

this because I'm the prevailing minister. You're

the prevailing church and you all possess the

life of God. And you can give this life when

you want to. And what makes it flow is that you

believe you have it. That's why we learn faith,

everybody. It wasn't just for the bigger house

and the nicer bicycle. It was to experience God

and walk with him. That's what faith was for.

And when you walk with him, you'll have the best

bicycle and you'll live in a grand house. And

here's the other thing. When you walk with God,

you don't even really care what house you live

in because you're with him. He changes even your

desires. I know you're hearing me. Wow. Fire's

coming in my hands right now. You had heart problems?

Yeah. Well, you know, you're going to find out.

I felt that right now, sir. Just like that's

it right there. Fire comes in that heart. You

let her touch you. In the name of Jesus, that's

it right there. Heaven. Now, this will be the

simplest thing you ever did. Because all I'm

going to ask you to do is, Nothing. You already

did the best part. You came. You wouldn't have

come lest you believe. That's it right there.

The name of Jesus. Hallelujah. You say, what

did you just do? Listen to me. Oh, there's things

I'd like to share with you. The anointing works

with, in my life, my mouth. It works with my

mouth. That's why if I get in front of somebody,

if I'll talk or engage them, the anointing will

drop. Now, it may work with somebody some other

way, but it works with my mouth. My tongue's

hooked up to the Holy Ghost and then things start

happening. It can work that way with you. You

say, how'd you get that? Praying in an unknown

tongue. That's how I got it. I pray in the Spirit

all the time and I've learned how to get this

connected with this. So when I stand in the pulpit

within seconds, I'm connected. And when you're

connected to the source, you're always going

to get... For today, and even in this moment

and hour, you step over into a realm of the Spirit

that you have known in part, but now you shall

have ownership as though you know what you're

doing. That's it. Fire. Are you ready? Hallelujah.

There's some other things that God's going to

do for you too. I won't even say a word, but

she's going to put her hands on you. And when

she does, that's the fire of God. Hallelujah.

And you listen to me, dear one, as you're on

that floor, the spirit of the Lord comes upon

you even now. And he gives you insight into your

future. And you will understand with clarity.

And the fear and the anxiety of your life leaves

you today. Do you hear what I said? And that

was accurate. Amen. Hallelujah. Look at me for

a second. I know you've had moments in your life

where you laughed and just enjoyed a very fun

moment. And I want you to know from this very

moment. You will be that person again because

there'll be nothing to be concerned about, but

I'm going to have to hit you. Sorry. She's going

to put her hands on you and I'm going to smack

you in the back. Okay. Hallelujah. Hallelujah.

I'm so glad you're just in the neck. That's it

right there. I wish all of the folks we minister

to were that easy. Praise the Lord. In the name

of the Lord, I want you to see right now heavenly

jumper cables from heaven through my hands and

Aaron's hands into your life. And I'm telling

you right now, there is no way your body remains

the same. Heaven changes you right now. You'll

have the report in your hand in Jesus' name.

Sit right there. Oh, the fire comes on you right

there. Jesus comes into you right there. She's

going to put her hands on you. Go ahead, hon.

In the name. Hold her up. Hold her right up here.

In the name, take more. More. More life. More

life. For there's other things that you need

as well. I know that. And they leave you right

now and you won't have a pain as you go back

to your seat. Not one in your body. In Jesus'

name. Check it all out and see that the Lord

set you free. Will you do that? Now you can fall.

Lift your hands for just a moment. Come on. You

listen so well. The hour is 8 .54. I know. Not

just trying to stop, but at the same time. How

many in this room, as you're worshiping the Lord,

first of all, put your hands down. Let's do this.

Just take two more minutes. How many are in this

service, and you can already tell, symptoms have

already left you? Look at the hands. Look at

the hands around here. Symptoms have already

left just sitting there. Keep them up. Keep them

up. Don't be afraid. Listen, don't be afraid

that you're testifying. Now the devil's going

to come and take it back. Double dog dare him

to try to come and take it back. He's a liar.

You're seated in heavenly places. He can't get

anywhere near the throne. God lives in you. This

is when you use greater is he that's in me than

he that's in the world. And stick your neck out

as far as you can and say, double dog dare you

to try to take this back from me. You didn't

give it to me. You didn't take this away in the

first place. You can't put it back on me. You

get real sassy with him. You let him know you're

not afraid. Get your hand up a little higher.

What happened to you while you're sitting here,

ma 'am? Amen. A lot of warmth. That's the presence

of the Lord. Did you need healing? Yeah. Did

you check it yet? Where were you having it the

most? But where was the rheumatoid arthritis?

Okay, then give me your hands. Hey, healings

are messy. It's not my hair, you know what I

mean? See, that's what you do. You're going to

raise your hand. You got to be willing to, you

know, be tossed around a little bit. Now listen,

as much fun as I knew I could have with her,

how did you know? There's just something about

her that said, just mess with me, okay? Listen,

listen, what I did with her is a lesson for you.

You don't have to be careful with the anointing,

like you're afraid the Holy Ghost is just gonna

be, Just leave you or... No, no, no, no. This

is your father. It's already paid for. And you're

stepping into something that he's wanted you

to walk in. In fact, he didn't want you to actually

have the symptoms in the first place. That's

why... Are you with me? Are you with me? Are

you with me? So what I did to mess with her,

you can do yourself. You need to be careful.

My dad always said you're like a bull in a china

shop. Maybe that's part of the reason. I don't

know. That's my perspective. But some people,

you know, they just want to go to a pool and

stick a toe in. Why would you do that? It takes

like 30 minutes to get your body in. And then

when you get it up to your waist, you go on your

tiptoes to say, don't splash me. While everybody

else who went off the diving board just gets

blessed right away. I'm working on you to get

a mentality into you of how powerful he is. Now,

the hands that went up all of this room, if we

had time, we'd get your testimonies and hear

all the things that God's doing without anybody

touching you. Tomorrow morning, I'm going to

jump right back into this flow. We'll minister

to people, get them set free, teach you a couple

simple things that'll make you just absolutely

an animal towards the devil if he tries to come

and mess with you. All right? Real quick. Is

there anybody in here? You can't come back at

any time in this conference. This is the only

time you could be here and you wanted to be ministered

to. We'll go ahead and lay hands on you real

quickly. All right. Is there anyone like that?

Yes, sir. Come on. Anyone else? Anyone else?

Sir, you too? Yeah, come on. Yeah. What do you

need God to do, sir? Healing what? For your wife?

Okay, where is she now? She's in Arizona, all

right? You got her phone number? All right, so

this is only gonna work if you'll do what I say.

If you'll make sure as soon as I, a minute, wow,

I'm feeling something on you right now. She's

got problems all down her spine, is that right?

Okay, okay. I'm getting ready to do something

really crazy, all right? All right? But as soon

as I'm done and you pick yourself off the floor,

you say, how do you know I'm going to be on the

floor? You're going to be on the floor. And when

you get back, we'll decide whether it's going

to hurt later. When you get back to your phone,

you're going to text her and you're going to

say, I was just run over by a Mack truck. God

touched me. It's just about fire in Jesus' name.

Amen. Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen. Hallelujah.

Hallelujah. And you're going to text her and

say, that just happened. And when you text her,

I'll guarantee you we can get your testimony

tomorrow that God touches her instantaneously.

And she's set free. Amen. What about you? Yeah.

You just need a little oil. All right. Isn't

that okay? All right. Just as simple as this.

I'm not, I'm not, you know, I'm, I don't like

tackle everybody. Okay. Just to let you know,

you know, I mean, I don't care. I mean, you know,

cause I remember this one guy, he was about six

foot seven and I went to pray for him and I was

going to go way up like this cause his head was

so high. And when I went, I stretched my arm

up. I heard the word of the Lord said, punch

him in the chest as hard as you can. And so I

stepped back because I didn't want to listen

to that, you know. And so I thought, well, I

better do what the Lord tells me to do. So I

said, hey, sir. And this big voice came, yes,

preacher. And I said, the Lord's going to tell,

has told me to punch you in the chest as hard

as I can. And the guy goes, on one condition,

preacher. And I thought, I thought I was in charge

of this. And all of a sudden it just switched,

you know. And I said, what's the condition? He

said, if it doesn't work, I'm going to hit you

back. And so, so, you know, I said, close your

eyes. And the thought went through my mind, clip

them right here, knock them out and then get

out of town. And so I reared back and I said,

Lord, if we're going to do this, we're just going

to do it big. And I reared back and went, when

I hit him as hard as I could, it was like this.

And he just sat there and looked at me. And so

I did the only thing I knew to do. And that is

challenge the devil. I got up on my toes. I put

my finger right in his nose. And I said, I dare

you. I dare you to check it and see what God

did. Check it. And I just got real, just absolutely

out of myself. And the guy begins to check it.

And big old saucer tears comes down. He lifted

his hand and said, oh, praise the Lord. I'm healed.

And I turned around and grabbed my heart and

said, God, I almost died. The Lord's been touching

it, brother. That's why I know it's healed. Look

at that. Yeah. Thank you, Lord. Thank you. Lift

up your hands. Let's lift up. Oh, we got one

more. One more. Yes, ma 'am. Hi, Eli. Erin, come

on. He deals with brittle bones. Yeah. And he

just was going to have a surgery to get femurs

in both his, like, rods in both his femurs. And

we got the flu and we canceled it and it's rescheduled,

but we're believing that he's going to be healed.

Would Eli actually let me hold him? Would Eli,

can I hold you, buddy? Hey. Hey. Come on, everybody,

just for a second here. Just extend your faith

with us. Father, I thank you. That the very life

of Jesus comes out of me and into this little

boy, Eli. Jesus, I thank you that you paid for

this. Now every bone, every muscle responds.

And healing is now released into this boy. Everything

changes. For we decree it so. We bind up the

word of the affliction and we loose this life

eternal in Jesus' wonderful name. Now go walk

and go be well, Eli. Yeah, he's never walked,

but he told us at the dinner table he was gonna

walk home. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Eli,

come on. Yes, you can stand. Of course you can.

And you can walk now. Come on. Come on. Yep.

You can walk. That's it. Come on. You can walk.

Good boy. Get stronger and stronger. Come on,

Eli. Here we go. Walk. Yep. Yep. Come on. Keep

coming. That's it. That's it. That's it. Hallelujah.

Thank you, Lord Jesus. Keep coming, boy. Let's

turn around to your mom and look at this. Now

give me your hand. Give me your hand. Here you

go. I got you. Walk to mommy. There you go. Walk

faster now. Walk faster now. Walk faster now.

Walk faster. There you go. You're on the road

to running. Jesus' wonderful name. Amen. Thank

you, Lord. Pastor, if you'd like. Thank you for

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