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  1. opportunity. I want to thank Jacob and the entire church. When I say entire church at this point of

  2. time, but if you are part of the two evenings, you have come to understand that when I mean church,

  3. I meant it as not the Sunday evening gathering that happens at Inverness Pilgrim's Church Building,

  4. but the six households that are gathering together in the Greater Vancouver area. Is that okay?

  5. When we are talking about a church, we are talking about a community of disciples,

  6. and these communities of disciples are growing up in the teachings of Jesus. How do they grow up in

  7. the teachings of Jesus? They learn the teachings of Jesus. They live out the teachings of Jesus,

  8. and they teach the teachings of Jesus, and by one another, they grow to become a true authentic

  9. family of Christ, exhibiting Christ to the watching world. And while they're exhibiting

  10. Christ to the watching world, the whole picture of Christ is painted by this community. And as we

  11. are painting this wonderful picture of Christ to the community, people are getting attracted and

  12. saying, hey, this is the family that I want to be part of. This is the life that I want to live.

  13. And that we would be able to create that in Greater Vancouver. That's when the true mission

  14. for which a church exists begins. Why does the church exist? God is setting apart a people,

  15. a community for himself, for all eternity. And the reason he's setting apart a community for

  16. himself for all eternity is that we would be his people. That he would be our God. We would be his

  17. people. He would come and dwell amongst us, and his presence will be so manifest amongst us. And

  18. not only that, that we would be his people, that we will cooperate with him and collaborate with him

  19. to set apart more people for himself for all eternity. That means six households can't remain

  20. six households forever. That means if you truly participate in the mission of the church,

  21. and truly participate in the mission of God, right from the beginning in the garden till the end in

  22. Revelation chapter 22, you see the same thing. That there will be more people that are set apart

    Revelation 22 chapter mention

  23. for himself for all eternity. Because the purview of God is that none should perish,

  24. but all should come to repentance. That none would be lost to the deception of another father

  25. who's a liar. They are all God's children because they originated out of the will and the plan and

  26. the pleasure of God. Every human being born. But they're deceived that they have the option and

  27. the choice to follow one of the two fathers. One father is a liar, and he wants to deceive. He

  28. wants to kill. He wants to destroy. He wants to take life away. There is death that is ordained

  29. through him. And the life that you can live under that father is sure death and eternal. But this

  30. father offers life and life abundance. That's the whole picture that is at play. And here,

  31. God is setting apart six households in the beginning to be an Antioch type base along

  32. with an apostolic leader such as Jacob and a team that God is actually building up with Jacob

  33. for a worldwide mission. And that's the starting premise at which we are actually looking into the

  34. seven important aspects from the New Testament of what we are trying to call as the way of Christ

  35. and his apostles. In other words, it's called church-based apostolic missions. And so we are

  36. outlining CBAM and we are taking the base as...

  37. We have an apostolic team.

  38. Aisha?

  39. Who's in charge of the markers?

  40. This?

  41. Tonight, if you can see through this and throw some out.

  42. And here is an apostolic team in the making, Jacob and his team.

  43. We still do not know the full picture of what this is going to be. But we know that there is a man

  44. ordained of God and we have seen evidence over a period of time. How many years you have seen

  45. Jacob leading this? 14 years now. You've seen him over a considerable period of time to recognize

  46. that this man has giftedness from God that Christ has given that is beyond the local church.

  47. That's the only thing that I want to define apostolic at this point of time is that there

  48. is giftedness in the person that helps this person along with a team go beyond the local church

  49. to be involved with many local churches, not just in one locale, but is able to transcend

  50. geographical regions and is able to progress the gospel plan churches and multiply them across a

  51. larger, wider area than the Greater Vancouver. And that's the reason why we are able to recognize

  52. Jacob as an apostolic leader. And it's important that we continue to do as churches and elders of

  53. the churches that we continue to support and continue to lay our hands on. In fact, the Antioch

  54. Church laid hands on. And therefore it's very strange that an apostolic leader may be the one

  55. who's actually teaching it and investing into a local church, but the local church actually rises

  56. up with their elders and then lays hands on the apostolic team. It's a very important partnership

  57. that goes on between local churches, which are authentic. When I say local churches,

  58. it's not congregations, it's not denomination, structured institutionalized Christianity,

  59. religion that we follow. No, these are authentic Christ communities that are led by

  60. wise elders who have spiritually matured. They are age-wise matured, they are gift-wise matured and

  61. experience matured and they lay hands on Jacob and say, Jacob, we know that you have invested your

  62. time, energy, money into this six house churches, which are an Antioch base in greater Vancouver.

  63. It is time that we recognize that we would be able to rise up and yes, we need your help and

  64. continuous input, but we would actually be a support base for you to go on this apostolic mission. And

  65. whoever you need as people from this base will be given to you whatever is needed at this point

  66. of time for the progression of the gospel will be given to you. We want you to continue to do what

  67. Christ has called this team to do that has riced up from this Antioch base. And therefore, we have

  68. this settled with six households that are networked together. And this is a network of churches

  69. in greater Vancouver

  70. that is partnering along with an apostolic team. And this is the purview with which we are going to see

  71. the seven important things. Okay, I'm actually taking from the New Testament, but at the same time

  72. going to be intertwining it with a plan of what Christ wants for us as a church to. So number one,

  73. the apostolic team usually has been given a sphere to offer.

  74. Now what we would call as an apostolic map.

  75. I don't know whether Jacob has shown you the apostolic map that is that a place that we can project

  76. that you have a sense of an idea where God is calling Jacob and a team to be ministering across

  77. the different geographical regions of the world. Can we project it so that okay, so let's go to

  78. second Corinthians and chapter 10 I started off with this and we couldn't proceed further for

  79. past two days, or we hope to proceed second Corinthians chapter 10, verse 13, and verse 14,

    2 Corinthians 10:13

  80. and then verse 15 to 16, Paul is still struggling with the Corinthian church. Corinthian church is

  81. a church that Paul has established. He's the apostolic leader over the church. It's a network

  82. of churches in the region of Corinth. There are sins that have plagued the church. There are many

  83. questions and divisions and a lot of things that are happening. But now there are other apostles

  84. that have come which are called the super apostles who are not really bringing the right teaching and

  85. cooperating with Paul, but they are actually bringing a strange teaching and there is an

  86. overemphasis of spiritual gifts to the under emphasis of love which is the essence of the

  87. churches. And so Paul is writing first Corinthians chapter 12, chapter 13, chapter 14. Yes, you can

    1 Corinthians 12 chapter mention

  88. speak in tongues, but I speak in tongues more than all of you guys. We can prophesy, but what you are

  89. doing in churches is disorder and what is happening is that you are losing out the essence on which the

  90. church must be built, which is love. And then he goes on to say love is patient, love is kind,

  91. love is all of those things. And he comes to the end and then goes on to the second Corinthians and

  92. he keeps emphasizing you can have a thousand guardians, but you cannot have an apostolic

  93. father such as me because I gave birth to you guys. It's important that you follow me.

  94. Follow what I'm bringing as an important revelation into the body. And I'm going to

  95. introduce you to the second Corinthians chapter 10. And then he goes down to the second Corinthians

    2 Corinthians 10 chapter mention 2 Corinthians 10 chapter mention

  96. chapter 10 and he talks about how there are arguments and there are strongholds that are

  97. rising up against and it's been destroyed. The strongholds are destroyed because our weapons

  98. or warfare are not carnal. We pull down every stronghold, we pull down every

  99. pretension that rises itself up. And then he goes on to talk about fear and he's not talking

  100. it out of a direct reference, but in all these contexts he is actually giving this idea. And so

  101. let's read the second Corinthians chapter 10 verse 13 and then verse 15 and 16. I'm reading for you.

    2 Corinthians 10:13

  102. We however will not boast beyond proper limits, but will confine our boasting to the sphere of

  103. service God himself has assigned to us. The sphere that also includes you Corinthian church.

  104. Then I read verse 15 and 16. Neither do we go beyond our limits by boasting of work done by others.

  105. Our hope is that as your faith continues to grow, our sphere of activity among you will greatly

  106. expand so that we can preach the gospel in the regions beyond you. For we do not want to boast

  107. about work already done in someone else's territory. And therefore in a side note,

  108. it's not the main point that Paul is talking about, but while he is defending his apostleship,

  109. he is saying, guys there is a sphere, there is a field that God himself has assigned to us as an

  110. apostolic team. And therefore we got to understand that God assigns, God assigns.

  111. So

  112. what Paul is saying is this field includes you Corinthian church.

  113. Therefore if Jacob would come and say, guys, God has assigned a field to this team.

  114. This mission needs to continue beyond this place, but that field includes greater Vancouver.

  115. And that if you guys do extremely well, if you guys do extremely well, then God will give us

  116. the capacity to increase the field. So you read that portion of scripture, verse 15 and 16. Neither

  117. do we go beyond our limits by boasting of work done by others because there are other apostolic

  118. leaders that are having fields too. There are other apostolic leaders that are having fields too. And

  119. we may intersect with other apostolic leaders in different places and across the countries and

  120. across the nations. Others have fields assigned by God to them, but you Corinth church, you actually

  121. belong to our field. Then he goes on to say, our sphere of activity among you will greatly expand

  122. so that we can preach the gospel and regions beyond you. While our hope is that your faith

  123. continues to grow. As the greater Vancouver's faith continues to grow, we have the greater

  124. capacity to expand this field that God has given us or assigned to us.

  125. Any questions?

  126. Your base here growing is critical to the expansion of what God is going to do through the

  127. mission of the apostolic team. There's an apostolic team right here. There's a network of churches

  128. as you continue to grow, as your faith continues to grow, that's going to be almost directly

  129. proportional to the sphere growth in the rest of the world. And that's what Paul is trying to say.

  130. All that we can get is two important main principles. Number one, there is a sphere

  131. assigned by God to apostolic teams. Number two, it really, really includes churches.

  132. And as the churches in the local churches, the network of churches begin to grow and be established

  133. in the faith and as they begin to expand in their own locations and locality, it gives the apostolic

  134. team credibility. It gives apostolic team with resources and resources is not finances.

  135. Resources is primarily is about people who will be able to rise up from within the local congregation

  136. to join teams and sub teams to fill and replenish the entire field that God has given.

  137. Put the picture on that.

  138. We need to include New York. The old picture.

  139. You have Vancouver, you have Cardiff, you have what is that?

  140. You have Baran, you have Chennai there and or Nandigama. You represent Nandigama or Chennai.

  141. One of Chennai, Brazil, Hanoi, Hong Kong.

  142. Okay and these are not just dots out there. These are regions that

  143. that Jacob believes that God has assigned the apostolic team to be operating in.

  144. Are you getting the picture or?

  145. Okay.

  146. Multiply and replenish the earth. And so when it comes to Chennai out there, there would be

  147. this partnership, the circles that are intersecting amongst apostolic leaders and at one point of time,

  148. if you truly are establishing people in the right teaching and the same teaching,

  149. there will be seamless flow between one another. Maybe there are some personality clashes that may

  150. rise up like Apollo and Barnabas. It would be very human but if we are truly establishing them in the

  151. way of Christ and his apostles or if we are truly establishing them in the teaching delivered by the

  152. spirit through the apostles, that is from Jesus, that is from the New Testament, there shouldn't be

  153. any because myself and Jacob when we operate in certain places that we co-labor together,

  154. no issues. You can just halfway through what he's teaching, I can just stand up and continue on

  155. because it's almost a sane thing. Maybe we use a little different vocabulary and it's perfectly fine

  156. if it's a different vocabulary but it's almost the essence of it is the same and then you see

  157. that there is greater unity and oneness that is developing across the churches, across the world

  158. where that true plea of Christ before he ascended in John chapter 17,

    John 17 chapter mention

  159. oh that they may be one even as we are one. Father and son are one, that beige also be one so that

  160. the world will know that the father sent the son and therefore the true understanding of how the

  161. gospel is made known to the world is only through this family of love that is bringing about this

  162. oneness and unity because we are one in that teaching and if you really follow John chapter

    John 17 chapter mention

  163. 17 to the T you would actually come to this understanding we don't belong to this world,

  164. we are being taken from this world and we are sanctified by the truth, the word is truth

  165. and then sent into this world. Therefore the way by which we have to be in sync is in the truth

  166. and being sanctified by the truth which is the faith, this is the faith that we need to be growing

  167. in, which is the teachings that we need to be growing in, what is the truth that sets you free,

  168. it's the teachings of Christ that sets us free. We have the same spirit that is in operation,

  169. we have the same truth that is in operation and because of the truth lived out in our life we are

  170. able to reflect the nature of Christ as a beautiful picture not as an individual. The greatest problem

  171. of Christianity is we have followed the way of the world and the way of the world is individuals

  172. and therefore I need to be projecting Christ, no you cannot project Christ, it's the body that

  173. projects Christ together and if we shift our understanding from individuals wanting to serve

  174. Christ and being impact for the kingdom that's the greatest challenge even with all of the

  175. parishes and all of the ministries and Christian ministries it's about the individual I want to

  176. impact the world for Christ. Sorry that is not the New Testament, you are not supposed to be

  177. impacting the world for Christ. We as a community need to impact the world for Christ and it can't

  178. be done as an individual, the more we try we project the world's order of man and more and more and

  179. that's why ministries and Christian ministries with individual giftedness rejected as super super

  180. guys are going to be detrimental to the way of Christ.

  181. It's this communities

  182. and these apostolic teams come in form those communities and fade away.

  183. They are like a crescendo that comes in as an effect, yes they have their impact, they have

  184. all of that and then they fade away, they are not there, they are not the mainstay.

  185. The communities become the mainstay, true love becomes the mainstay, the truth sanctified

  186. through life lived out becomes the mainstay, good lives become the mainstay, good works become the

  187. mainstay or good families and authentic families become the mainstay and good news that is shared

  188. through good lives, good works, good homes becomes the mainstay that that is the beauty of what Christ

  189. has revealed.

  190. Now it's all opposite, I have done extremely well in business, see me what God has done,

  191. what the good good father has done in me and he will do that for you, that is the push of the

  192. Christian world today. See my ministry, what God can do through me, God can do through you too as

  193. an individual, sorry that's not found in the New Testament.

  194. So Jacob is not the highlight of Greater Vancouver, Jacob has come and slogged 14 years to build the

  195. six households, it's time that we shift into the way of Christ, these six communities actually

  196. become the beauty of Christ revealed to the world, to the watching world. It's how you interact with

  197. the community in your own neighborhood, that is going to be the mainstay, that is going to be the

  198. main focus, that's going to be the beauty of Christ revealed. While Jacob fades,

  199. yeah Jacob's fat goes thin but would come only on July 17th and up here, July 17th.

  200. That's Jacob's day, Memorial Day.

  201. In India it would be called Jacob Jayanti.

  202. You're getting the idea? Well the first idea we got to understand is that we have a field offered

  203. to Jacob and a team, that field does not belong to Jacob alone, that field's ownership is taken by

  204. the initial Antiochian church base until we have other bases come because there may be a sharing

  205. of this load and co-working that can take place amongst the various bases across the city,

  206. across the nations but at this point of time our responsibility is that we would say we are with

  207. you Jacob and commission you to do what God has handed over as a field. Are you getting the idea

  208. of the field? And therefore in order to see this field, one of the things that we were clarifying

  209. more and more is that Jacob although has an origin from within the nation of India, the field

  210. seems more of non-Indian ethnos, like how Peter would be to the Jews and Paul to the Gentiles,

  211. not that Peter would not do anything about the Gentiles or Paul would not do anything about the

  212. Jews but the shift or the emphasis would be a certain kinds of people, a certain kind, one of

  213. the things that we've been discussing and thinking about is that the main essence of where Jacob would

  214. be operating is a non-Indian kind of people, kind of people groups. As we go on those things will

  215. become more and more clear about the field. So this is work in progress, this is initial revelation,

  216. this is something that we have initial small little specs that God is giving us with regards to the

  217. the field that this entire church will be involved in. Are you getting it? Am I making sense? I need

  218. to have some questions from you to clarify a little better, if not it's going to be, I do not know

  219. whether you're getting it. That's true?

  220. Get me two questions that will help me understand how much you're getting.

  221. It's working? You're getting it? May you have any questions? Steven, Derek,

  222. Mark, who's going to the leaders? Dano, who else should I, Heidi?

  223. Any questions? Not yet, let's go on. So there's a sphere to operate, there's an apostolic map

  224. and we have put this apostolic map. For us, at this point of time the sphere is

  225. the

  226. all that the Assemblies of God as a denomination can think about is who is the

  227. district superintendent, who is the secretary, and that is the leadership and now you are a local

  228. church and therefore you don't have apostolic understanding within the Assemblies of God. In

  229. fact, you've got to understand when there was a straying of this new movement called the

  230. Apostolic Reformation that Wagner started, North American Assemblies of God wrote a paper saying

  231. we don't subscribe to the Apostolic. Because of the abuses and excesses that were found in that

  232. movement of the Apostolic Reformation, they call it the NAR. I don't know what this stands for but

  233. it's a new apostolic Reformation, NAR. It was a group of people there and so Assemblies of God

  234. rejected it in that sense. So sometimes it's the greatest challenge because we at this point of

  235. time would have under one church now as an apostolic team would plant Assemblies of God churches,

  236. would plant non-Assemblies of God churches, would cooperate with any denomination

  237. because the church and the network of churches has accountability to the Assemblies of God but

  238. the apostolic team is not Assemblies of God. There's a little, we confuse everything now

  239. and that's why we call it complex apostolic network of churches. It's very complex.

  240. And so for example the places that the Spirit of God will prevent Paul from entering, he's actually

  241. starting his second missionary journey. He would want to go into Cappadocia, he would want to go

  242. and the Spirit of God would prevent him and then take him on to Philippi and then go on to Ephesus.

  243. While those places that the Spirit of God prevents Peter to enter in, you see that Peter when he's

  244. writing his letters, he has a set of places. So let's go to 1 Peter chapter 1 and verse 1.

    1 Peter 1 chapter mention

  245. You see very strangely that those are the places that Paul was prevented to go by the Spirit.

  246. That is an assignment to Peter and his field. So 1 Peter chapter 1, the set of people that Peter is writing to.

    1 Peter 1 chapter mention

  247. Those who are elect exiles of dispersion of Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia,

  248. according to the full knowledge of God. So this is a field assigned to Peter and he's writing to them.

  249. Paul has assigned a field and he's writing to them. John is at the end of it, is actually taking Paul's

  250. network because he is at least 30 years beyond Paul and he's writing to the seven churches by

  251. the assignment. He's writing Revelation chapter 2 and 3. He's writing to a circular letter to seven

    Revelation 2 chapter mention

  252. churches out there and these seven churches are written the same materials from Revelation chapter

    Revelation 4 chapter mention

  253. 4 to 22. But the covering letter is what is for each church specific. Each church specific

  254. assessment of what Jesus is thinking about the church in Ephesus, church in Philadelphia,

  255. church in Sardis. And these are the churches that were started out of Ephesian base that Paul stayed

  256. for two to three years, night and day, in the hall of tyrannous. And these are the churches that

  257. have started out of his work in three years. And now John is actually overseeing those network of

  258. churches and he's writing to the seven churches on the Asia Minor. It is a road. You start in one

  259. place, you can actually follow the same road and that's how they carried those letters. Messengers

  260. carried those letters and they gave a covering letter specific to the church and then a general

  261. material from Revelation chapter 4 to 22. So this is a field assigned to Peter which was

    Revelation 4 chapter mention

  262. predominantly Jewish. And so in certain places like Antioch where the network actually intersected or

  263. spheres intersected, there was clashes because Paul and Peter would have clashes based on

  264. dice. Because Peter is more oriented to the Jews and Paul is more oriented to the Gentiles that

  265. Paul would bring the Gentile concerns. And where the Gentiles and Jews are mixing up when two

  266. apostolic leaders are there, that Paul had to confront Peter and say, hey guys, this is not

  267. the gospel. You are trying to downsize and tailor make it only for the Jews. You are so frightened

  268. of the Jews. He goes to Galatia which is predominantly taken over by Jewish kind of Christianity that he

  269. is saying, guys, when I first came to you and opened up the gospel that is more to the Gentiles,

  270. also included, who has be pitched to you? Why is that you are becoming more and more Jewish in your

  271. orientation and following what you touch and see? No, that is not the gospel that I brought in.

  272. You're getting the ideas?

  273. Mark, any questions? Shall we go on to the second one? So in the field that God has assigned,

  274. they went about the great commission that Jesus commissioned them.

  275. Now what did Jesus commission them? To go into all the world and make disciples of all nations.

  276. Go make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit,

  277. teaching them to observe all things that which I have commanded.

  278. So they bent, they were not able to do that.

  279. They made disciples by baptizing them. Those who accepted the gospel were baptized and included

  280. into the community because the idea of baptism is not a Baptist idea of dipping someone in the water.

  281. The idea of baptism is that when someone comes to Christ, he is actually saying from now on,

  282. I don't belong to the world community, but I am actually immersing myself in water.

  283. Water rite that was so prevalent in the Middle Eastern world where they dipped themselves in and

  284. said from now on I subscribe to this rabbi. From now on I subscribe to this person alone

  285. and they belong to that community. So they have rabbinical schools. Jesus is saying,

  286. you got to follow my teachings to the T and now you're baptized to be part of my community.

  287. Therefore this idea of the great commission is to evangelize them with the gospel which is the

  288. good news of Jesus Christ and when they come they are baptized into a community and this community

  289. becomes a learning, living and teaching community. That is what Paul and Peter and

  290. all the apostles in the through the book of Acts continue to do and if you really see the

  291. cycle that comes as they did not just evangelize in every place. They evangelized and made sure

  292. that they were strategic in nature. So they evangelized strategic cities. They established

  293. and through baptism and teaching established

  294. local churches. While there were people who were established in the local church they were developed

  295. and matured in order to identify potential leaders and appoint them as elders and they entrusted it

  296. to elders and the apostolic team continued to do this cycle again and again which is the great

  297. commission cycle or David Heselgrave calls it the Pauline cycle because Paul it's very clear in the

  298. book of Acts through Acts chapter 13 verse 1 to 14 28. You see this Pauline cycle in place in the

    Acts 13:1–14

  299. first missionary journey. You see the same thing happen in the second missionary journey.

  300. You see the same thing happen with Philip going into Samaria or a panabas after something the

  301. spirit does goes into Antioch. Same cycle happens. They evangelized strategic places.

  302. They established local churches. They entrusted to elders and therefore after we have had the

  303. field if you really see Paul's field. Paul's field is the then known Gentile world. It was not

  304. primarily Jerusalem but Antioch became the base.

  305. And so you see the Roman world it's Antioch.

  306. From here three small places of Iconium, Lystra, Derby. He goes to Philippi.

  307. He goes into Philippi then into Thessalonica,

  308. Barai and this becomes the Macedonian network of churches.

  309. And you come into Corinth and Athens and becomes the Achaean network of churches.

  310. Then he hits Ephesus with 11 other churches on that circular road

  311. and it becomes the Ephesian network of churches.

  312. And Paul is hell bent on being arrested even though arrested in Jerusalem. He is hell bent on going to Rome.

  313. And this is Paul's map. It was Paul's field and he hits strategic locations. So there were four major

  314. strategic cities of the Roman world. Antioch on the eastern side, Philippi, Corinth, Ephesus, Rome.

  315. These are five. Philippi because it was on the northern front of the Roman world. They made sure

  316. that they had the army containment there on the northern side and the Macedonian regions became

  317. very important for defending the northern side. Corinth was like the business capital. It would

  318. be like Mumbai of India or if it's Canada which would be the business capital.

  319. Which is the political capital?

  320. Toronto. So that would be more like the Rome of Canada.

  321. So that would be the business that may be spread across. But these are strategic locations. So if we

  322. really take Canada as a whole, there are strategic locations that we may have to do. So when God

  323. spoke to us in 2015 about it was a very strange process. 2012 there was a man whose name was

  324. Lorenzo who came brought in by my friend whose name was Prem Nath and he came to preach in our

  325. church. He couldn't preach. I was so disappointed with him because he stood up and he was trying to

  326. say something and here is a big service that is going on and suddenly I felt like I was almost

  327. because my friend also had come in between. I spoke to him and said I think the next time you please

  328. let me know whether a guy can preach before you bring them to the church. And so at the end of it

  329. he said I'm sorry the spirit of God really wanted me to deliver this word only and sit

  330. but because of the pressure of preaching I had to preach. And so I'll read to him read to you what

  331. at the end of maybe 15-20 minutes of scrambling through its notes and not able to preach he said

  332. this is what the spirit of God wanted me to write this morning. I saw a picture and he wanted me to

  333. deliver this to you. A great great lake vast in size abundant with resources a beautiful resting

  334. place a powerful providing place providing drinking water for many. This was like the peak

  335. 2012 was a peak where the English service was growing and we had shifted from three services

  336. to five services because the congregation was like flooding in. We had already set up a new

  337. place on top wonderful beautiful air-conditioned place with a lot of media equipment in it and

  338. then I saw a stirring on the waters which became a mighty swirling mighty clouds gathered and the

  339. wind began to blow mightily thunder and lightning the waters rose and thrashed about and suddenly

  340. overflowed their banks and began to flow out of out to other places. This lasted for a while until

  341. the lake was half full then the sky cleared and the sun shone and a great peace a calm came over

  342. the whole lake. There were fresh trees with new fruit and new birds singing new songs and new

  343. people enjoying the lake. God had done a new thing for his great glory and then I looked beyond the

  344. lake and where the water had flowed what once was dry and dead ground had come to life because the

  345. water from your lake had brought the gospel and God's kingdom to places that previously were dead.

  346. God told me that he has heard the cry of the dry and dead land and he would save them and give them

  347. life and he has chosen you to bring them what they need. My own feeling is that God will use this

  348. church in middle east to accomplish things for him that even governments have not been able to

  349. accomplish. When our Lord Jesus tells us to do something for him why do we not simply obey and

  350. do exactly what he tells us? We obey because the Lord needs it and then he closed the iPad and he

  351. sat down and I was disappointed because he said the lake will be half full because half the lake

  352. will disperse. I did not give attention to this prophetic word. 2015 we were playing together

  353. as a team asking God what we must be doing and then God dropped in two important statements. One

  354. was we had no idea what black maps were and black maps was something that came out to me while we

  355. were praying. The other prophetic word that came while we were praying together as a team was one

  356. of the team members said where Satan is causing the maximum havoc that's where my greatest harvest

  357. is going to be in the next season. So I go into the office, google out black maps and what throws

  358. out was the shocking thing which was the black maps of ISIS. If you really see the black maps

  359. of ISIS, it's the eastern Europe, it's central Asia, northern Africa, it goes all the way into

  360. into Afghanistan, Pakistan, India and it moves into Malaysia, Singapore down to Jakarta, Indonesia.

  361. So all of this is what is called as Islamic Caliphate that they wanted to establish and they

  362. were at the peak of it when in 2015 and God said this is one of the regions that we want you to

  363. work as a as an apostolic team and then in response to that. But then Jacob comes into

  364. into our church and there is a guy whose name is Theo. Theo, he halfway through the service he's

  365. saying Theo your ship is parked, is anchored, there is a storm that is coming to your life

  366. unless you pull out the anchor you will not be you will be destroyed and so remove your anchors

  367. and be ready for sail. And then Theo goes through a major storm that happens and it all comes together

  368. in 2016 that we say God if this is the region that God wants us to do what is the strategic

  369. location that we need to hit and then we decide Dubai would be a strategic location that would

  370. help reach out into central Asia, into eastern Europe, into northern Africa and the middle eastern

  371. regions and that's the reason why we sent you and Falong to go into Dubai to be starting out.

  372. And while we are talking right now that this is the first mission trip after three years the

  373. church has become four households in Dubai that are meeting together in four different places

  374. and are gathering together on a Friday for one-mindedness and now this church is slowly

  375. taking up this cause of central Asia and have gone on a first mission trip into Kazakhstan.

  376. So when you're talking about these things you're talking about authentic communities

  377. you're not talking about great things that you're doing it's not about big meetings and you can

  378. flash out in the social media no these are simple things about how small communities of Christ

  379. are catching up the vision of what God wants us to do and move into strategic locations to do

  380. this four-line cycle or what is called as the great commission cycle again and again and again.

  381. So that's my second thing. While we have a field we identify strategic locations we know the timings

  382. of the Lord we move to those locations and we do Pauline cycle or the great commission cycle

  383. which is evangelizing strategic cities establishing local churches entrusting to elders and therefore

  384. in those locations there are times for example even before you evangelize there are times that

  385. we need to really work on with regards to pre-

  386. Thank you.

  387. Who's water in charge?

  388. Who's water in charge?

  389. You're getting the idea we have a field and after that we have a field we are in sync with the

  390. spirit to understand when and where is the first place so for example it's not like Paul

  391. after he finished in Coneyallister Derby his next progression was more Ephesus or somewhere in this

  392. area but the spirit of God would not allow and take him to a Macedonian call and if you really

  393. read Philippians letter you see that these guys were strategic partners right from the beginning

  394. till the very end and so it's not about what we want although that doesn't mean that Paul was

  395. just seated in Antioch and waiting and waiting and waiting no Paul was moving Paul was moving

  396. but the spirit of God will open and close doors and will lead sometimes what we think is strategic

  397. may not be the timing of the Lord sometimes what we think is what we need to do next is so for

  398. example we wanted to we have chosen what is called the new Roman road which is within India

  399. and it's called the golden quarter lateral okay Chennai Mumbai Delhi and Kolkata would be the

  400. strategic locations within India that we need to really replenish these communities so that the

  401. cities will be taken but so we were making our road into Mumbai and hitting into Mumbai

  402. we felt that that's the next strategic city that God spoken had spoken in 2003 about Mumbai being

  403. one of the second cities that I would be living and dwelling in as I was moving towards that

  404. the there was a great great opposition with regards to the assemblies of God

  405. church pastor there and the leader there he said if you come in we are going to complain all over

  406. in the denomination and he opposed vehemently he said we are not doing an assembly we will not use

  407. our brand name because he was saying there's a big church coming in and therefore that NLAG brand

  408. will spoil all the work that we have done and everyone would go to your church and therefore

  409. we don't want you to come while we were actually pressing and confused about this opposition

  410. the spirit of God said Pune just open up in Pune and you see Pune Pune is just all the churches

  411. are concentrated on the camp area which is the old Pune but Pune has grown massive because of the IT

  412. that has been happening out there and therefore in 2018 last year we started out in Pune and in a

  413. place called Banner and when you're starting a church we're not thinking about music we are

  414. not thinking about worship leaders we are not thinking about who's going to be doing just three

  415. people last year June 10th three people Ramin rich family a young couple who are true family to me

  416. along with Jerry who was part of our team Jerry was sent along with these three people started

  417. out in a home and this is actually a growing and it grew out of the home into a larger space that

  418. we had to hire up a hall on a Sunday but there is a household that meets together in Praveen

  419. Richard's house and while we were still doing that God was speaking about another church in

  420. 30 kilometers away and this so even before this church is fully established and growing and

  421. self-sufficient this church has planted another church and when you're thinking of a church plant

  422. we are not thinking about how do we have a worship leader how do we have a space how do we have

  423. speakers how to know this is about another house

  424. and there are two churches and around 70 people who are out there in a year's time not great

  425. success stories but true authentic loving communities and I believe that we will be able to

  426. saturate and fill whole of Pune and the approach that God has given strategically is to not come

  427. into camp because the moment you come into camp the greatest opposition will be from the religious

  428. Christianity and therefore you actually hit in all the corners of where the IT world has been

  429. planting huge buildings and IT offices and are inviting all of India to come and live and work

  430. there. You hit strategic locations, evangelize, establish Christ communities which are authentic,

  431. truly established in the teaching and you raise up leaders and elders and appoint them

  432. and you continue to do continue to replenish.

  433. Long haul and sometimes you can't measure everything on the way. It's not about measuring success in this

  434. it's about measuring of whether this is true communities that's our only measure

  435. through communities that would impact society.

  436. Questions?

  437. Questions are arising now.

  438. So it's not about major investment that we need to when we think of New York it's not a we need

  439. we need a family we need a few families.

  440. So we

  441. um the Jerry who was sent is um Jerry was someone that I started off he was in the Saturday afternoon

  442. community that I was investing in in 2010. Uh 2012 this family actually shifted because of work

  443. to Chicago but I would not I would not leave them in a sense like I I would check on whether they

  444. are going to come back so it was like a short period of four years in Chicago and therefore

  445. anytime I flew into North America Chicago would be my place where I put my bags. Their home is where

  446. I would stay continue to pursue Jerry and Zesha continue to invest into them and sometimes we have

  447. our Saturday afternoon groups at the two three of three three thirty which means Chicago time is

  448. like four thirty in the morning and sometimes winter times in Chicago Jerry and Zesha would have

  449. all kinds of winter clothing on them and sit in front of Skype to be or zoom call to be part of

  450. this process never allowed them to stay away from the teaching at one point of time they had to come

  451. back when they came in they were in sync with what was happening at the base floored in and at the at

  452. one point of time asked Jerry Jerry would you uh I I think there is a call of God upon him Jerry would

  453. say I want to hear God I want to hear God if I have to make the move and I would say it's not about

  454. hearing it's about believing and following and so he left a very high paying job to be joining

  455. with the team and within the next year he was part of the OMR church plant and growing and investing and

  456. Raffol was part of that congregation or part of the households there and Jerry

  457. I asked Jerry hey there's a immediate need to go to Pune would you go

  458. Zesha was pregnant and they asked that after they deliver in three months time I'm not talking to you

  459. after they deliver three months time Zesha said give me three months time I would be willing to move

  460. and they went to Hong Kong oh they went to Pune oh sorry

  461. okay

  462. but Jerry is a highly invested tenure tenure project

  463. uh

  464. highly invested relationship I walked Richard down the aisle to get her married because of her family

  465. rejected that they would not stand with her she was from a Hindu background so it was like a father

  466. to her who walked I I interviewed the guy who she wanted to marry and gave him a hard time before

  467. getting married and now that's the relationship so whenever I went to Pune I lived in the house

  468. ate with it so it's a combination of an invested leader uh proven which I have not invested on a

  469. leadership leadership but as a invested in a relationship because they always lived far away

  470. from me but there was a click out there and then the church starts and then you see 70 people

  471. blossoming out and the greatest joys you go there you it's not it's not you but you have invested

  472. into some people's lives you have strategically understood and it's not apostolic leaders work

  473. when Jerry last time he came and asked this new place in Karate there was another guy who was

  474. grooming up well and then suddenly he pulled himself off and went off to another place we

  475. were talking about how there is a spirit that is at work in that location that does not allow

  476. the stability of the churches and so then Jerry is asking so give us insight give us insight

  477. say Jerry you pray you get more insight but we will come and stand alongside and so I've committed

  478. myself for the next two times within this year to be going along with Jerry and a team to be praying

  479. to dismantle certain things Jacob has been praying and feeding in certain aspects of what needs to be

  480. dismantled and therefore it is also when when you just before pre-evangelism of a certain place an

  481. area there's also spiritual dismantling of of what do you call you have a terrorized tea

  482. okay tame nations tyrannize the rulers so there are certain activities that go before it to

  483. dismantle certain spiritual forces of darkness and there are certain times when

  484. like last year or last year we went into utharkand which is on the top mountains

  485. there are four important it's called the char dhams where the rulership of this nation of india is

  486. out there so when modi has to actually be elected he goes there before being elected he before the

  487. parliament starts he goes there and that's where and so we go there to unplug certain things

  488. it's a war it's it's truly strategic war

  489. over territories and nations and nations

  490. is

  491. that okay can we go on thirdly we got to equip a whole leadership base

  492. and all of these needs are whole set of leaders and there are two new testament leadership

  493. types that are needed for this to work

  494. so while you are doing the while you are doing the poline cycle or the great commission cycle

  495. you are in this space where there are establishing the local church and entrusting to elders you are

  496. beginning to identify potential leaders

  497. you would call l2l3s

  498. and these l2l3s that you identify and while they are identified you are looking into certain

  499. aspects so i'm just going to lay down certain things that i look for number one and it's and

  500. it's part of the teaching in the scriptures too they have a desire to serve that's the first thing

  501. do they have a desire to serve number two they are making themselves available not forced and

  502. forced and forth they are making themselves available for every opportunity to be invested into

  503. they have a desire to serve they're making themselves available for investment into their

  504. lives they're beginning to number three they are beginning to grasp the teaching and are making

  505. church central to their life and family their life does not revolve around their work their

  506. life does not revolve around their family no their life is revolving around christ community

  507. in which they are rallying and managing their work they are rallying and managing their family

  508. to actually make church central to their life's plan they're beginning not that they are mastered

  509. that they are already doing they're beginning to grasp the teaching and are making church

  510. central to their life and family number four they are managing their own families well unable to

  511. extend their relationship beyond their individual family

  512. they're managing their own families well able to extend their relationship beyond their family

  513. number five they are people who show early signs of influence

  514. and are beginning to be respected by more than their own family within the household

  515. so

  516. they have a desire to serve they're making themselves available for investment into their lives

  517. they're beginning to grasp the teaching and are making church central to their life

  518. and family they're managing their own families well and are able to extend their relationship

  519. beyond their family they are people who show early signs of influence and are beginning to

  520. be respected by more than their own family these are our potential leaders

  521. and we have a base of potential leaders that we begin to work

  522. with

  523. yeah you you've got the idea of the l2 and l3 that we are beginning to they're beginning to emerge

  524. while they are beginning to emerge we have to slowly identify what

  525. we we don't have to name them immediately we don't have to one of the things that we have

  526. understood is that we can't lay hands on and commission them too quickly because we see them

  527. through a period of time before we recognize their service rather than he's my favorite so he's a

  528. leader no or he's is someone that is showing giftedness alone some people show a lot of

  529. giftedness but have not built the character base with it and therefore we have to be

  530. make sure that we do our sam well with them spiritual formation

  531. which is the character base

  532. academic skills

  533. what do we mean by academic skills academic skills is that their ability to master

  534. scripture

  535. master culture and are able to bridge scripture to context and culture

  536. to provide

  537. the mind of christ solution

  538. and therefore the church must i would say jacob's teaching on sunday evenings with his sporadic

  539. visits is not going to be the way by which we have an academic skill developed amongst the potential

  540. leaders because this needs to be ongoing continuous layer on layer a pathway to the

  541. of a pathway that needs to be truly laid over a period of two to three years where where where

  542. spiritual formation is is very much of a mentoring and and shaping up of life and character but

  543. the academic skills is a process that at least three to five years of a very clear pathway led

  544. within our churches to to really master scriptures so so at one point why i

  545. you at one point of time you must be able to score through and at this point of time i can

  546. tell i can score through new testament left right and center amongst all of the

  547. gospels and the epistles the 27 books i'm still not mastered the old testament the way i've

  548. mastered the new testament but the moment you actually are confronted with the with the with

  549. an issue a leader who's becoming a master craftsman from being an apprentice should be able to process

  550. all of the life's issues through the base of the scriptures and be bringing about

  551. the mind of christ solutions to the issues that are faced in a culture

  552. and that's how we really develop wisdom base this is not a knowledge base we develop what is called

  553. as a wisdom base and the spirit actually broods over the wisdom base and takes the words of christ

  554. and is able to apply if you don't have this wisdom base the spirit is not able to

  555. wisdom base the spirit is not able to

  556. he uses profits to warn or advice

  557. but over a period of time the wisdom base that is developed through an academic skill and it's

  558. it's an academic skill that you have to at the end of it it's going to be on paper it's going to be

  559. certain times we got to put them on paper if you don't put them on paper it's just vapor

  560. you'll have great thoughts that the spirit would be able to take the words but you got to do some

  561. level of studying and are able to handle the scriptures with confidence

  562. so that we will not be arguing with words that is meaningless

  563. so we must help people identify their life work their gifts abilities skills

  564. and help them understand their gift mix and that ministerial skills you will be able to

  565. distinguish them over a period of time whether they are a local eldership material or an apostolic

  566. team material over a period of time and through through practical applications in ministry

  567. when you you identify ministerial skills because you are able to see them on the job

  568. in service while in community that's why jacob taking jeven to hanoi or evan to evan have i got

  569. your name evan evan to hanoi helps jacob understand whether whether you're a local church

  570. eldership or an apostolic team does not make any difference with regards to what christ wants

  571. because one does not function or apart from the other one is a failure if the other does not

  572. function and therefore these are equally important weightages with the priority of the apostolic

  573. ministry because of the progression and the spearheading and the pioneering aspects that are

  574. needed but apart from that whether you're here or here it depends on the gift that god has given you

  575. and you must be fully fully be satisfied with what god has invested in but jacob on these trips will

  576. be able to assess or over a period of time there will be a senior eldership that rises up from

  577. amongst the elders will be able to assess on a on a two-tier system where where there are local

  578. elders identifying hey this guy is apostolic in nature or this guy is the ability to teach and

  579. defend the gospel this guy has this particular computer skills so that he can be on a deacon

  580. team to help the teaching of the church be established as true proper teaching this is

  581. an entrepreneur who has the ability to to to bring solution as a benefactor to the society or

  582. as a as a health as as this giftedness to make money in order for the progression of the god

  583. all these giftedness will be able we need to be so these are three major blocks as from from first

  584. timothy and second timothy that we these these three major blocks of a well-rounded leader

  585. that we need to shape up this this from first timothy second and second timothy paul as is in

  586. second timothy is reviewing paul's training of timothy and telling this is how you got to be

  587. training others and that is when he gives the commission in second timothy chapter two verse

  588. two that which you have heard in the presence of many witnesses and this review of what i'm doing

  589. with regards to the training of you timothy you've been with me in anchoque you've been in

  590. anchoque you've been with me in different places in ephesus when i've gone through persecution

  591. you've seen my life you've learned things from my life you have learned things from your grandmother

  592. you have learned things from your mother you have learned things from the scriptures on from

  593. infancy but now is your base of and the process of training that i have taken you through now this

  594. is the good deposit that i have invested into your life timothy now god this with the help of the

  595. holy spirit and pass it on to faithful men that is second timothy chapter two and verse two passes

  596. on to faithful men who will also be able to do this to others and therefore second timothy chapter

  597. two verse two is not a multi-level uh multi-level leadership developmental strategy no this is a

  598. long-haul 12-year process of investment of the good deposit over a period of time and paul is

  599. reviewing that training process and he says hey flee from sexual immorality flee from all these

  600. kinds of things make sure that you are a man of character and then second timothy chapter two

  601. verse 14 and 15 you need to be an authentic approved minister of the gospel uh that means

  602. you need to handle the word of god with confidence do not argue about meaningless words because it

  603. does not help anyone and when you are arguing you don't have to argue because somehow some way when

  604. people oppose you in the teaching leave it to the spirit and you don't get agitated in your

  605. arguments and all those things are the academic skills part that paul is talking about in the

  606. training process and then the minister do the work of the evangelist give yourself to the public

  607. reading of the scriptures a be instant in season um rebuke all all of those things are the

  608. ministerial skills that that that paul is talking to timothy and so these are we call the same

  609. encyclopedia

  610. yes

  611. i i would say apostolic leaders need to choose the apostolic teams and therefore there are some

  612. people from within the churches that the apostolic leader would invite in in consensus with the local

  613. church elders to be brought them to team as an apprentice and then the apostolic leader takes the

  614. responsibility of helping him through his life work but generally life work needs to be done

  615. within the communities there's a set of good what is life work is a set of good works that

  616. god has prepared in advance for a person to be doing in his lifetime which could be parenting

  617. which could be fathering it could be husbanding it could be um it could be certain gifts abilities

  618. and skills that god has given that person in it could be entrepreneurial it could be certain gifts

  619. of playing instruments all of this is a set of good works that christ is prepared in advance for

  620. a person to do and then we help them explore it so when it comes to life work

  621. we help people explore conceptualize

  622. and realize

  623. but they are regards to gifts abilities in a lot of people actually can play guitar

  624. but they are not guitarists

  625. so they explore we need to really help people realize their their set of good works the crisis prepared in advance for them to do

  626. and the church as a whole is god's good work to the world

  627. he's a master craftsman doing his masterpiece which is the church which has individuals and families

  628. with individual life work and family life works together and god the way he puts families together

  629. because he's the one who puts families together because of our hardness we mess up families but

  630. he's the one who puts families together because there's a greater purpose in harnessing what god

  631. has already invested into your life and the family and an individual is part of a family of god which

  632. is the community of disciples and god has a unique way by which he shapes a community too because of

  633. the individual and the family life works that's how the community is formed that's not the full

  634. picture that's why we need to join along with the communities but what a great picture would be if

  635. all of Vancouver is actually moving in the same direction with regards to what Christ wants for

  636. the church and that would be the picture that Christ wants for a city the church of Vancouver

  637. my body that reflects christ watching work no force of hell can ever stand against that

  638. i'm talking utopic but i'm not saying it's not possible

  639. this is possible when you take a long haul 30 year period you can impact a city and a nation

  640. so

  641. what should we do one one more i'm i'm skipping down to i i think these are the three things that

  642. we need to continue to uh linger around through a few more visits or jacob can further it down

  643. number one god has given jacob and a team a map which includes greater vancouver

  644. the greater vancouver network of churches becomes the apostolic base

  645. or an anti-okine base in which jacob and the team are residing

  646. and this church partners together with jacob and his team in planting establishing and multiplying

  647. churches worldwide in that we need to make sure that the base has clear understanding of of

  648. enabling its leadership and the leadership are twofold one is of the apostolic nature

  649. who will be joining along with jacob in the apostolic visits across the globe and

  650. and that's a local eldership team that is

  651. this is the apostolic team

  652. this is the local church

  653. elders and deacons

  654. this is more this outward

  655. this is global focus

  656. this global focus

  657. local participation

  658. this is local focus

  659. but global participation

  660. outward this is outward and mobile

  661. this is more

  662. outward mobile with primary focus on extending reach

  663. this is more stable and local

  664. with the focus on shepherding and equity

  665. you're getting the two basic leadership

  666. and there's another group of people over a period of time of maturing

  667. would raise up what is called as the senior eldership

  668. who are matured guys who rise up within the network of churches who solve the issues that

  669. beyond the local church there are certain times the local elder is not able to solve the issue

  670. that the senior eldership of a particular city will come into play with regards to counseling

  671. and advising and things like that and also they resolve the tensions between the local church

  672. eldership team and the apostolic team because the apostolic team will always want to pull things out

  673. and the local church elders will always pull the team to the local focus and how it's important

  674. to shepherd and how it's important to establish these people there's much need here and senior

  675. eldership over a period of time will resolve issues like the Jerusalem council where it was

  676. a local Jerusalem church and the teaching with Paul being wanting to extend it to Gentiles that

  677. they James the elder was sitting down and helping Paul along with the local church elders in Jerusalem

  678. to solve major issues of theology and this is the picture of the New Testament leadership

  679. while while this is completely wiped off this has become today's 21st century this has become

  680. Parachurch nothing to do with church but they are focused on on catalyzing movements of causes

  681. because the church is not doing it therefore we have to do it and so it's a it's a it's a

  682. it's a network of causes and this has become denomination lies institutionalized

  683. christianity and that's how we have lost the plot

  684. we've got to go back to the New Testament understanding of leadership and how they function

  685. and really reconstruct apostolic teams and local church elders

  686. and one final thing with i'm just jumping and going down to the sixth point which is

  687. a

  688. multil Gas Holy exposal

  689. Is there any question?

  690. T

  691. C

  692. You look into the New Testament, you have four important blocks for funding spontaneous

  693. expansion.

  694. What is funding spontaneous expansion?

  695. Spontaneous expansion is the spirit is actually wanting to take the apostolic teams to continue

  696. to plant and establish and multiply churches in a greater field that God has handed over

  697. the apostolic team.

  698. That means the moment you actually leave Greater Vancouver into another place, there are finances

  699. that are needed for causes in other places.

  700. How does the Antioch Church continue to collaborate and partner with the apostolic teams?

  701. And that's the entire picture of the letter to the Philippines.

  702. If you really see the letter to the Philippines, it is about, in the essence of it, it is about

  703. funding spontaneous expansion that Paul has been doing.

  704. Now the Philippian Church has forgotten for a period of time to fund Paul.

  705. Now Paul is saying, don't worry guys, I have learned to be content whether you give or

  706. not, I still continue.

  707. But please do understand that this is a call of the partnering churches to fund spontaneous

  708. expansion and to help the apostolic teams continue to progress the gospel.

  709. And therefore Paul says he who has begun a good work in you, chapter 1 verse 6, this

  710. is about the partnership to the progression of the gospel.

  711. He who has begun a good work in you is faithful to complete it.

  712. We have been using that verse in all different contexts, it's perfectly fine.

  713. But from now on you need to understand that when he has begun a good work, it's about

  714. this good work of the progression of the gospel and the planning of the churches.

  715. Persecution is actually disturbing it.

  716. Paul's chains are not hindering the progress of the gospel.

  717. Persecution to the Philippian Church is not hindering the progress of the gospel.

  718. But what is hindering the progress of the gospel is the lack of one-mindedness inside

  719. the church.

  720. And then he is actually breaking open what is happening within the church.

  721. Two members of the apostolic team that Paul has left behind in Philippi who has eodia

  722. and syntyche, they have a problem with one another and this is slowly spilling over and

  723. the one-mindedness within the church is getting spoiled.

  724. And therefore Paul is rallying the entire church of Philippi to come back to this mind

  725. which is to consider the other better, to take care of the interests of others better.

  726. And he gives four important examples of Jesus who actually took care of us, that is why

  727. he left from heaven and came down to earth.

  728. Number two, Paul himself who squeezes his life to the end, that there's nothing more

  729. to squeeze as a drink offering.

  730. And number three, Timothy who has a genuine concern for others, follow his example.

  731. An epiphrotist who you guys sent to help with gifts, he almost died in order to serve me.

  732. And these are the examples that you've got to follow.

  733. Don't let the false judizers, those mutilators of flesh, those words that Paul uses are these

  734. dogs, the mutilators of flesh, they are coming and actually spoiling things.

  735. If I have to boast, I have to boast about many things of the Jewish world but I don't

  736. consider them important because they are garbage and rubbish because I have set my mind to

  737. press on towards this upward call which is the progression of the gospel, the planning

  738. and the multiplication of churches.

  739. You guys, I have learned to be content.

  740. I am not the one who is going to be worried whether you guys are going to continue to

  741. partner or not but God shall supply all of your needs according to his riches and glory.

  742. Thank you for the renewed partnership.

  743. Thank you for reminding, renewed.

  744. You have already sent some gifts again and thank you guys.

  745. Continue this partnership because he who's begun a good work in us is faithful to complete.

  746. So that's the letter of Philippians that Paul writes to the Philippian network of churches.

  747. And so funding of Spontaneous Expansion actually includes four major pillars.

  748. The first one is that churches collect regular offerings and the churches need to bracket

  749. off their expenses in order to set aside funding for mission.

  750. I think the church can continue on to keep expenses going on because there's no limit.

  751. If you say, for example, the church needs a Mac computer and two years down the line

  752. we need another Mac because an upgrade came.

  753. The church needs to see whether, because we can keep buying gadgets, we can keep expansion

  754. of the church and keep producing and spending.

  755. The churches actually have money.

  756. To be honest and true, churches have money but the church money does not go into this.

  757. I'm actually struggling and fighting because there is a building that New Life Assemblies

  758. of God already have invested into building.

  759. That means it's taking off a major chunk of the church money into building and I'm trying

  760. to work out finances to say even if you have to maintain this building after, you don't

  761. use it, you don't do anything with it but you've got to continue to pay for the building.

  762. You've got to continue to pay for the air conditioning.

  763. You've got to continue to pay for the maintenance.

  764. Something wrong with buildings when you have such a large congregation gathering together

  765. with around 70,000 people on a celebration day.

  766. Yeah, you may need a building but we fought hard to say can we reduce the number of the

  767. size of the building.

  768. They were planning to build a 50,000-seater auditorium, fought through for five years

  769. to bring it down to 20,000-seater auditorium.

  770. This means it really brings down half of the budget.

  771. Churches actually spend a lot of things on a lot of things, a lot of money on a lot of

  772. things.

  773. That may not be really truly formation of authentic communities of Christ.

  774. I'm not against buildings, I'm not against investments of churches but churches need

  775. to really understand that the main reason for which the church exists is not itself.

  776. Churches exist for the mission.

  777. So the churches need to set aside money for apostolic themes to progress the gospel.

  778. Number two, there are individual benefactors and family benefactors.

  779. These are high net worth individuals, high net worth families.

  780. They have old money because some of them have actually inheritances that have come.

  781. They have inherited businesses, they have inherited properties, they have inherited

  782. because this is not like this new generation struggle to make it.

  783. No, they are a third to fourth generation down the line, rich people who need to really

  784. set aside amounts into investment.

  785. So these are benefactors who are truly not people who give money and control money.

  786. These people need to be fully sold out to the way of Christ as a apostle, fully sold

  787. out to the understanding that hey, this is what Christ is doing in this earth right from

  788. the beginning.

  789. He's setting apart authentic communities for himself and we need to collaborate with him

  790. to set apart more communities for himself.

  791. And for that, God has actually set up a group of leaders who have been gifted by Christ

  792. himself to progress and therefore we want to be benefactors to the progression of the

  793. gospel.

  794. And this is not the church as a whole but there are high net worth individuals who are

  795. called benefactors.

  796. Therefore, Paul is saying about these kinds of people who are Phoebe, who is a deaconess

  797. in the church in Sanctria who is a benefactor to me and to many.

  798. Lydia, she opened a home, but she's a merchant, she's a businesswoman and she opens a home,

  799. invites Paul, there's a house date that's happening in Philippi with Lydia, but she

  800. is also a benefactor to Paul and the Pauline team.

  801. So there are benefactors that are found in the New Testament that continue to supply

  802. for the progression of the gospel.

  803. Number three, special collections.

  804. This is a regular.

  805. There are special collections depending on special needs that the apostolic team would

  806. come up with, hey in Hanoi we need to do this and therefore the house church is gathered

  807. together on special collections that are set apart like how Paul would do because of the

  808. famine in Jerusalem.

  809. That he went to the entire network of judges that he was in the Gentile world and saying

  810. listen guys, the Jewish people were the people who blessed us spiritually.

  811. If we could actually get their spiritual blessings we need to supply for them materially.

  812. It's very interesting the way Paul positions this collection and he says we have received,

  813. we have not received any support, in fact they have been opposing us, but if you truly

  814. understand Jesus came through them and they are a spiritual base and a spiritual blessing

  815. for us it's important that we support the churches in Jerusalem.

  816. So there will be causes and there will be many needs that we raise up in the larger

  817. field that the apostolic leaders may come and request the local church elders to be

  818. doing special collections for.

  819. Four, enterprising apostolic team.

  820. The apostolic team itself is enterprising so that they are not a burden to the churches.

  821. That's one of the things that Paul had to model.

  822. He said I'm not going to be a burden to your churches but thank God for Achille Prisla.

  823. Achille Prisla are my co-workers who are fully on fire with all the qualities of being a

  824. co-worker in the apostolic team but they also run a leather tannery business.

  825. And so they are able to shut shop in Corinth and move on to Ephesus or shut shop in Ephesus

  826. with Paul and go to Rome because now in Rome Paul is arrested in a house, he's under house

  827. arrest but they would be somewhere around him doing business, selling those things

  828. and so when Paul is not busy with other things he is not sleeping in his room but he is actually

  829. engaged in the business too so that you guys don't have to support us because we have

  830. modeled out enterprising apostolic teams.

  831. These are things that needs to be fully seen, not yet seen in the kingdom as yet but these

  832. are things that are found in the New Testament and we got to develop these four things that

  833. we find in the New Testament for the progression of the possible landing and multiplication

  834. of churches.

  835. And the ability, I know this is pushing a little further in the 21st century context

  836. but would finances and lands be placed at the apostles feet because that was the significance

  837. of the things that they did.

  838. They believed in what the mission of Christ was that they would actually come to the apostles

  839. feet to sell lands and finances, put it there and say use it for the sake of the gospel.

  840. That's the level at which I hope in the days to come that that kind of authentic spirit

  841. moves will begin to happen.

  842. It's not about funding a person, it's about funding this most important heart of God issue

  843. which is the planting, establishing, multiplication of authentic Christ communities that replenish

  844. the entire world so that we would reflect Christ to the watching world, that that watching

  845. world would be attracted to and we'd be part of being this community so that they can be

  846. part of God's big family.

  847. We'll further these things as we continue on but I believe that God is doing something

  848. in this church which is six house churches with an apostolic theme which is a wonderful

  849. model that can be harnessed because it's smaller in size.

  850. You come to New Life Assembly of God, I struggle with all kinds of issues and all kinds of

  851. things because you are in a huge mass that you want to dis, it's a titanic that cannot

  852. shift its course.

  853. Even if you want to shift its course, it's not as easy, it's just moving an inch to the

  854. left.

  855. Here is a greater possibility, you have both the features of leadership intact and in place.

  856. We know that Jacob is sensitive to the Spirit and ready for what God wants to do in and

  857. through him and his team but we need to ready these six house churches in full-fledged,

  858. thriving, authentic communities so that we have a proper base and so that's what we need

  859. and building these six homes that will be naturally breathing and moving and multiplying

  860. and replenishing.

  861. The rest of the things, August and September, one of those days, somewhere we will work

  862. it out.

  863. I want to ask guys whether they were impacted by what you said over the last three days.

  864. Let's see if we really liked it.

  865. Jeevan, you want to say something?