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  1. Good. Are you all doing good this evening? Yes. We just had a wonderful time with some

  2. of the ones who lead the households and I believe that God has already begun a good

  3. work. I just want you to know that Pastor Jacob has been, I don't know, you call him

  4. Jacob, right? You don't call him Pastor Jacob. Do you call him Pastor Jacob? No,

  5. Jacob? Prophet Jacob? Prophet Jacob? Most Reverend Jacob. He's been a blessing. Okay,

  6. he's been a blessing whenever he comes down to Chennai. He's been a blessing. There are other

  7. places that have begun to travel with him in India. He's been a blessing. So I want you to

  8. know that this man has been blessed with this group of people and that's whenever someone

  9. actually is a blessing, it's just not because that person is a blessing. He comes from a source

  10. that's blessed. Amen? And I believe with all of my heart that you are that source and that you are

  11. commissioning of him to the ends of the earth has been a blessing not only to our church back in

  12. Chennai but I believe it's been a blessing to many, many, many other places. He was there at our

  13. missions gathering where over 160 plus missionaries from different parts of India had gathered

  14. together and it was fantastic three days and God has been ministering through him and through the

  15. lives of people into the information about what God wants to do in and through people's lives and

  16. it's been revolutionary in the lives of people with regards to what they have been in after that

  17. and so the ministries are changing and the way people do ministries are changing and so I really

  18. want to thank God for Jacob and for the source from where he's been commissioned and I really

  19. want to thank each and every one of you. I think it's a good time to clap hands with yourself.

  20. And Pastor Jacob did not ask me to talk these things. That's for once. But he wanted me to remind you

  21. that on July 17th this is his birthday and my comments on the previous section where I said here

  22. after Jacob is not going to be the one you have to take up and run and all of that he wanted to

  23. make sure that he's still your leader and he wants you to remember 17th of July. That's your only

  24. request he has. Rest of the things you can forget. That's just being him. Good let's go. I am almost

  25. lost for something new to be sharing with you okay because I think with two times coming over and I'm

  26. not going to talk something different or something radically different from what God has been

  27. deposited into my heart and I've seen the world is so obsessed with something new. Something

  28. that's something different and so sometimes I've struggled with this idea of how can we present

  29. something new to every time you go and I've come to a place in life where I have come to this

  30. great settlement. There's nothing new under the sun okay. There's nothing new under the sun. It

  31. actually the Word of God and the principles of Christ are not something that's like wide and

  32. great and innovative and no it's not. Actually it's about putting the simple format of it. It's

  33. but the challenge is not knowing the few things. The challenge is taking those few things and

  34. making it part and parcel of our life and living. That's the challenge that we need to take up this

  35. morning this evening. So you got to come to a place where we got to constantly recognize and

  36. realize where the how do we survive as ministers and preachers is because you forget okay. That's

  37. the only way we survive because it's so much only is there content with regard if you really

  38. really take the content of the scriptures the content of the scriptures only seven main teaching

  39. topics. How do we survive? It's because you don't remember and so and you change the title or you

  40. put a different slide you can actually preach the same sermon with a different slide and people

  41. think it's new and say pastor through you God spoke to me. That's how people that's how pastors

  42. survive 52 times in a year. They preach the same thing again and again in different formats and

  43. and with maybe one or two different illustrations or experiences and it becomes new. But all that

  44. I'm saying trying to say this evening is not so much of how much knowledge you have. It is

  45. how we have translated this knowledge into everyday life and so God is calling this church

  46. Acts 29 and this evening I want to describe Acts 29 a little different than how it's been defined

  47. not because I've been given a permission to describe it that I take the liberty of coming

  48. to the church because I'm invited in I'm taking this liberty to say hey you are not just you are

  49. a network. I'm giving the statement and then I'm going to explain to you what this all about. A

  50. network of at least six churches in and around greater than Goa. I'm declaring it and then I'm

  51. going to help us understand together what this is all about. It's a network of at least six

  52. churches in and around greater Vancouver and so you got to understand that there is a base

  53. in which you operate. The base that you operated in till 2019 was that there is there's one

  54. congregation so the base that you were operated in is of the old paradigm which is called the you

  55. were a one congregation and called Acts 29 and you met together in different places at last you

  56. actually found a place in Inverness Inverness okay and you met together every evening every Sunday

  57. evening and Jacob was kind of although he did not mention he was a pastor he was a kind of a priest

  58. and you were a set of people who were clergy, he is clergy and you are a set of people who are

  59. laity but then God through various teachings broke that out and we actually moved into

  60. understanding that we are one people of God who need to serve all are called to serve there's

  61. so many so many teachings that have gone through father sons and I think God has brought in several

  62. people through the history of this church that have come and helped us understand and realize

  63. the teachings better and better and better and introduce introduction into the apostolic and all

  64. of that but slowly where God is taking you as a church is that you have become an apostolic base

  65. and I'm using all kinds of statements without explaining to you everything but I'm just throwing

  66. it out so we can start building around it you are in a apostolic base from where God is launching

  67. something powerful that's going to impact an entire world. Now in order to see this and recognize

  68. this you got to shift out of this old paradigm of we are a congregation here we are a congregation

  69. we have a pastor here we have someone that we meet every Sunday and and Pastor Jacob ministers to us

  70. and we love what God is doing in through Pastor Jacob to understanding that we are slowly becoming

  71. a six different not different in the sense six churches that are meeting together. Pastor Jacob I need your help.

  72. Vancouver and I may not be good in the map of it okay. Burnaby

  73. B.A.

  74. Burnaby Richmond

  75. Delta

  76. Maple Ridge

  77. Vancouver one Vancouver

  78. Okay these are the six houses that are meeting together. Why this is important is because the

  79. scriptures define the church to be different from what the 21st century understanding of church is

  80. because church somehow has lost its real essence and has become a religious body

  81. okay religious body and so churches represent the institution called religion and Christianity as a

  82. religion and I have made this statement before and I make it again Christianity as a religion has no

  83. power is powerless and that's why it's ineffective it's it is Christianity as a religion has no

  84. power and is ineffective in this world because Christianity is one more thing like Buddhism

  85. like Hinduism because we follow it as a religion it has its own systems it has its own

  86. own things which is so contrary and sometimes opposed to what the scriptures say

  87. and so we got to we got to very very meticulously and very very intentionally break out of

  88. this religious institutional

  89. structure of Christianity and identify ourselves as how the scriptures define the church to be

  90. okay is that clear is that clear and so in in order to shake that out

  91. we sometimes have to declare it we sometimes have to wise it out and we got to constant I

  92. I keep constantly telling Christianity has no power Christianity as a religion has no power

  93. Jesus did not come to inaugurate something called a religion called Christianity

  94. Christianity and Hinduism has the same kinds of things in the in the sense like

  95. there are certain things that I really if you go into the Hindu world and philosophy there are

  96. good things there so it's not about what's good what's bad it's about you got to understand that

  97. you got to understand and I'm and I'm trying to push this and I'm extending it a little more

  98. there are demonic powers inside Christianity there are structures and church structures that

  99. they go and try to touch and you know what in the night happens in the night I have demonic attacks

  100. when I actually start to mess up with church structures attacks from the evil one you're just

  101. trying to go and shift structures inside a church a Pentecostal church and what gets attacked is a

  102. evil one because these structures are powered because there are selfish motives and and

  103. controls and and authorities that are not of Christ's that as a mammon that's motivated by

  104. money and motivated by self and motivated by by by by by obsession and dictatorship

  105. so you got to understand and we got a hate with all of our hearts the organized is when I say hate

  106. it doesn't mean that we don't love anybody we when I'm saying hate it's because of the shift that the

  107. spirit of God wants for the church now we got to very very very strongly say no to this form of

  108. Christianity no to this form of religion so this evening if you are coming here to be part of this

  109. church and you have this old idea of what a church is and what this Christianity is and you're

  110. participating in this church you are going to be shaken a lot

  111. because there is a shift that is going to take place and the shift is not always you need to

  112. understand what Jacob represents is of a different kind of giftedness that may not be found this is

  113. the this is the greatest challenge that you're going to face as a church together the leaders

  114. and shepherds of these will not and may not exhibit the same giftedness as Jacob

  115. and that's going to be a lot more disappointing

  116. you

  117. that's going to be the greatest disappointment people love

  118. people love gifts they don't love christ

  119. gifts

  120. they're sad because people say gifts people don't see because that's the philosophy of the world the

  121. world rates people and classifies them and prefers gifts

  122. it's going to be one of the most greatest challenges when we shift into a apostolic base

  123. of six churches

  124. because you don't have Jacob in all the six Jacob may visit the six once in a while

  125. or he may visit because there are six churches that are coming together

  126. so if i have to follow this and the way of this world of the church this church world and this is

  127. the biblical church so this is the worldly church i want to we're going to classify it as worldly

  128. church and this is the biblical church

  129. the worldly church is made of the same philosophy of the world who have the most followers those

  130. who are gifted who has the more uh so what is what is the gifted the giftedness that people

  131. truly follow they follow innovation they follow uh communication if someone is able to communicate

  132. well yes that's number one so if someone is not able to communicate with words because

  133. christ is not building this entire church based on the ability for someone to words with things

  134. i love how jacob puts things together even more than how he speaks i i love for him to write

  135. that's his giftedness that's how christ gifted him that may not be the potion of the shepherd

  136. that god appoints over this church that person would have a giftedness that's

  137. giftedness that's so super important and very important not in terms of the world

  138. but in terms of the church and is needed for that community and god is going to shape that person

  139. up to be a leader of that community because god himself has appointed him

  140. as a first breaking down that needs to take place in our minds we don't worship gifts

  141. we worship christ the giver of multiple multi various gifts in the body

  142. we worship christ

  143. we don't worship gifts

  144. so

  145. how is christ truly exalted

  146. oh the the expression of christ is his body okay you need to understand that the world is not

  147. going to see the world is not going to see christ with their naked eyes but what is he

  148. allowed after his ascension is his representation is his manifold representation through the

  149. community if the whole world needs to see it is because the church is united and representing and

  150. and manifesting christ to the world that they know that they are one and because that the father and

  151. son are one and the son and the and his body are one that the whole world will know that the father

  152. sent the son that's the entire logic and entire thing that jesus explains in john chapter 17

    John 17 chapter mention

  153. how will the world know the problem is the that that we have come and we have sold this wrong

  154. philosophy that the world will know because you can communicate the gospel well the world will

  155. know because billy graham can preach so well the world will know because media and technology can

  156. know this is not how the world will know all sometimes we build and build massive institutions

  157. that is not the church of jesus christ

  158. all done under the name of christ all under done in the name of christianity but it's not

  159. nothing to do with what christ is doing and that's why many people think that the church is a failure

  160. if church is a failure christ is failure no christ is not building our our kinds of churches christ

  161. has not failed and he continues to do in various different expressions across this world christ is

  162. building his church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it and unless we come to this

  163. full-blown understanding that i have to very strongly detest this worldly church and the

  164. building of the worldly church i will not be able to build what christ is building

  165. and that is not dependent on the gift of the leader

  166. it does not depend on the musicians and the and the and the and the ability to lead worship

  167. if there's someone like jane in our house church is perfectly fine that's nothing wrong or if

  168. someone can can can be i'll i'll love uh jacob's church and i'll be happy to be there and i'll be

  169. that's nothing wrong or if someone can can can be i'll i'll love uh jacob's leading of worship

  170. not everyone is going to do that

  171. see you got to shake away from the norms of what the world defines the church to be if you have

  172. to build what jesus is wanting to build in greater vancouver

  173. so

  174. what did i say

  175. oh we we got to get rid of what defines the worldly church in order to build truly what christ

  176. is building in greater vancouver something like that i said

  177. okay so we got to shake that out because we have a set idea of what a church is we have a

  178. set idea of that is what will get translated into our homes and into our households that that's so

  179. we want to replicate what happened on on sunday evenings and sometimes we feel like that's not

  180. happening there that's not happening there and we miss out on what christ is doing there

  181. church is about people church is about people and people's lives being transformed

  182. church is not about the activity that is done apart from it see there may be various activities

  183. so we are times of singing could be one of the activities that christ is not about how we sing

  184. and how and just because we don't have great music doesn't mean that we can't build a great

  185. church that's that's the that's the logic because the world the world has shaped us understand that

  186. it is only through great music that we can actually build a great church and that's why churches

  187. scramble and pray high for musicians pay they they compromise anything and everyone

  188. everything it doesn't matter how the musician is as long as they can play music in the church

  189. and where's that salary going to where is it going

  190. to go you're getting see you're getting the idea of what what i'm trying to communicate it's not

  191. about but sometimes we got a shake out of the norm of how church has been done in order to build

  192. what jesus is building jesus is building people people come in various giftedness your leader

  193. in the church in the six churches here will not be jacob and i and really thank you you sometimes

  194. need to sit down and thank god for it

  195. because it'd be different it would be because i had to break out of it because i was always

  196. looking for people who are very similar to me in order to do what christ is doing then god had to

  197. shake that out of me and say no that is not how i build my church i build my church through anyone

  198. who is willing to cooperate with me

  199. and therefore therefore be in this church there would be sometimes the leader in the church here

  200. may not be actually communicating every week is it okay because there may be other good people

  201. who are good with communication that may be communicating

  202. because somehow we associate the leader of the church to be the communicator super ace communicator

  203. the leader of the church needs to really shape the teachings in his life that's the that's the

  204. first thing he communicates not by words he communicates through life so we got to shift

  205. out of this this soup there is an there is a role of communication i'm not saying that there's no

  206. role to communication there's no role to to gifted speaking that gifted speakers would always have a

  207. role to play in the churches because because learning and teaching is an oral tradition too

  208. and learning and teaching sometimes is written forms too so there will be people communicating

  209. but the leader of the church that god appoints as shepherd may not be an ace communicator

  210. may not be an orator but has the ability to teach has the ability to teach the ability to teach may

  211. not always be about gifted speaking but it's about life on life rubbing it's about life lived out

  212. teaching through life lived out and if that life is actually i am seeing that again and again when

  213. you see someone like jerry i never thought jerry would have any hope in leading a church

  214. with regards to but but you you allow the spirit of god to to to for those guys to come up and and

  215. put a set of guys around them so i'm what i'm experiencing is those who are not ace in their

  216. giftedness always rally people around them so that the job gets done and that's beautiful than just

  217. one man shining

  218. and so the lack of the the the prominent giftedness people always allow others to blossom

  219. and because they allow others to blossom it becomes beautiful it's not centered around a

  220. man or a woman it's centered around the community and that's what christ wants

  221. so we're going to shift and so 2019 is halfway through and maybe 2020 onwards we are really

  222. pushing this that which christ wants for greater mancourt and and what begins in greater vancouver

  223. is not going to be just greater vancouver but it's going to impact the world that's that's the larger

  224. picture okay so this being the introduction part of it i want to step into what is called as you

  225. as a church together you as churches together having a base of around six churches need to

  226. continue to grow need to continue to multiply around this place so that your base will become

  227. stronger and stronger because what needs to happen across the world truly depends on the base because

  228. if the base is not strong enough you know the foundations if the foundation is not strong enough

  229. whatever we build on this foundation is not going to last because jacob will be gone he'll

  230. be doing other things and jacob is not the only person who's going to be doing this and

  231. we have had several conversations and over a period of time also recognized and realized

  232. that jacob is a person who who can actually do a lot of things single-handedly

  233. and so over a period of time jacob is going to be um shall i share jacob is going to be a person

  234. who's going to break down on himself being the single apostolic person to build a apostolic team

  235. around him which is cutting down a lot of privileges and things that he wants to do

  236. and to build around the team which is which is going to be one one more hard

  237. process that is very specific to him and we will have a conversation separately not with the church

  238. because we got used to certain things i got used to certain things and then you have to shift what

  239. god wants us to do in the next phase of our life and therefore so that apart i'm concentrating on

  240. the base which is the six churches at this point of time can we become strong in order that the

  241. apostolic team that jacob has been launched from here can do what god is wanting to do across the

  242. can do what god is wanting to do across the world you understand the base foundation

  243. introduction that i'm trying to lay down because we will start to build on it day two day three

  244. so this church which is six churches and growing

  245. six churches and growing must become strong and would supply the needs

  246. would supply the needs when i say needs immediately i thought there's only finances no that's not the

  247. main need at this point of time the main need at this point of it includes finances but a main need

  248. at the point of time is is gifted leaders who are here who will be able to shepherd these six

  249. churches well to make sure that these six six churches are multiplying in and around the greater

  250. vancouver and lesser vancouver and out of these churches come team members who are called of god

  251. would be able to move back and forth across the world okay and so i want to i want to jump right

  252. in with this as the foundation i want to i want to jump right in into what i would term as a church

  253. based apostolic missions okay church based apostolic missions i'm

  254. the way the new testament the howl in the new testament

  255. yeah okay that's bam bam as business as missions

  256. there are some people who do the other way around church as business but this is such based

  257. business but this is such based apostolic mission that i want to take the principles of the new

  258. testament laid down but this all these principles work only when a church or churches or a network

  259. of churches understand itself as an as a base like an anti-oak church anti-oak church was a base from

  260. where paul and pauline team operated initially while they went about there were many bases that

  261. actually started out and there will be many bases that this this church will be linked to there will

  262. be other minor bases and major bases that and as the spirit moves the church into several other

  263. parts and moves jacob and his team to move to several other parts this needs to happen this

  264. needs to happen and therefore church based apostolic mission is the is the overarching teaching that we

  265. need to receive as a church in order to process the next season of where god wants to take this church

  266. any questions

  267. any questions

  268. yes

  269. we are able to see this

  270. this is not a challenge for you or this is a challenge for you

  271. we need honest

  272. truth

  273. because you will be sitting not under the teaching of jacob

  274. i'm not saying that jacob won't teach i'm saying if we shift it around you are going to be

  275. participating in a community that may not have

  276. some

  277. and it may not be even in this group i'm not talking about this group because

  278. you have grown and has been established now it's for this group to do something

  279. it's not like for you to be seated under someone here although we may be a community

  280. to do that but

  281. so i'm going to outline quickly the settings

  282. we're going to touch only on the one then we can divide the rest of the time tomorrow and day after

  283. so let's let me outline the

  284. time

  285. a church that is like an anti-oxidase like that which is so you've got to understand when when

  286. when paul stays

  287. church at anto you think it's one

  288. or what's your idea you know when the church when paul is writing to the church in philipine

  289. or when church in coran what was the actual thing that was happening he was not writing to

  290. one congregation it was actually congregations that are spread across the city

  291. yeah

  292. you you are clarity on that right it's not like you're not writing to a sunday evening gathering

  293. that meets together at invernus no he was not writing like that he was writing to the churches

  294. that spread across the entire city and that's how they call church at coran means all the houses

  295. that met together in coran such at rome there were at least 75 of them in rome so you got to

  296. understand that when the new testament writings were written they were not put into one small

  297. house they were written to a city citywide network of churches and that's how we start

  298. to process churches and how do we process church right here the church at greater vancouver that

  299. is associated with x 29 is at least six churches and we are actually progressing that way so

  300. so that's what we need to understand is

  301. it

  302. apostolic map is the region is the territory that god has called apostolic leaders that are based

  303. out of a church to be functioning in so how do i pick that up i pick that up from

  304. second corinthians chapter 10 verse 13 and then go on to 15 to 16 paul is not directly

    2 Corinthians 10:13

  305. talking about apostolic map but he is actually defending his apostolic ship

  306. with the corinthian church because the corinthian church were troublesome to paul why because now

  307. paul has planted those churches and have moved on to the thesis and he's moved on to other places

  308. to plant churches and then then after the churches have been planted have been planted and to be

  309. multiplying and growing there's a lot of problems that are happening in the church and some of the

  310. problems that were happening in churches that there was sinfulness sexual immorality was there

  311. there was people two people fighting inside the church and they were taking each other to the

  312. court there were issues with regards to temple feasts there were issues with regards to division

  313. there were issues with regards to to women and what they wanted to do inside churches a lot of

  314. troubles and paul is addressing them and he's addressing those those those struggles that the

  315. churches were going through corinth said no we will not listen to you because now we have other

  316. super apostles who are doing spectacular things and are heavily gifted that you need to understand

  317. by the time you come to first corinthians chapter 13 14 12 13 and 14 you come to this great struggle

    1 Corinthians 13 chapter mention

  318. that paul has and saying hey they are saying no paul is okay he did it what he did but now we have

  319. other super apostles who are speaking in tongues and prophesying and doing many other things and

  320. they are they are attracted to the supernatural giftedness and have lost the base of which the

  321. church needs to be established in which is love and he goes on in chapter 13 and he establishes

  322. the truth of what the church is to be based in which is love love love love is patient love is

  323. kind you can speak in tongues and i speak more than all of you guys in tongues but you can

  324. that's making a lot of noise if you don't have the foundation of what the church is supposed to be

  325. which is which is the family of love everything is a waste he comes by the time he comes to the

  326. second corinthians he's he's actually fighting to tell them hey guys you can have a thousand

  327. guardians men but you can't have an apostolic father like me because that's the struggle when

  328. apostolic leaders establish churches and now are handing over to elders and now are concentrating

  329. on another region or another face or where the spirit of god is leading the apostolic team the

  330. churches here can go through different things because they can open the doors to other guys

  331. who are not of the same spirit and that's one of the things that the six churches need to vehemently

  332. guard that apostolic leadership once appointment and once have released you to do what you're

  333. supposed to be doing you are not opening the doors to other teachers you are not opening the doors

  334. to other teachers and today other teachers don't have to come physically they will come through

  335. videos they will come through through media they will come through their books

  336. it will be interesting it will be blessing but if you don't understand this the holistic sense of

  337. it every now and then something satan is going to be using against the churches that's his that's

  338. his ploy that's what he wants to do and how he does it is he will bring another strange teaching

  339. that will be so similar to the teachings but is deviant from it

  340. but

  341. explain apostolic leaders also

  342. cut off okay i'll i'll just i'm i'm coming down to apostolic leaders on the third point

  343. no good job so if you can if you can engage with me a little more i would i would i would come there

  344. so i i think it's right on jacob to ask me to explain a little more about apostolic leaders okay

  345. okay

  346. so these six so so for example it all started with the one community that worked together

  347. act 29 jacob has been so at this point of time we can represent the apostolic team to have one

  348. person who represents it and at this point of time let's say at this point of time we know that

  349. this is jacob okay so the guys who actually operate like jacob okay like jacob in the sense

  350. of the giftedness of being when i see apostolic team they operate in one of these giftedness at

  351. least

  352. okay

  353. and somehow the world has pushed the idea of oh i am apostle i am a prophet this has these all

  354. these things have become titles today apostles so and so prophets so and so sorry these are

  355. actually these needs to be if you really maintain it in the new testament sense of it

  356. it needs to be not titles but what functions

  357. what do they do apostles and prophets they lay the foundation

  358. i was apostles have a larger sense of the big picture of what god wants to do in a particular

  359. area or a region

  360. they get the blueprints they have a understanding of what god wants to do there

  361. and they are the first to arrive and if you take it terms of architectural building plan

  362. types the the apostles are more like the architects they have a big picture of how this

  363. this the the church in this region as how god is going to build the church in this region they

  364. have a sense of it and they come with that big picture in mind the apostles and prophets

  365. together lay the foundations for that church and the prophets are more like they put the

  366. they're more like the structural guys in the construction industry if you say they are more

  367. the structural guys these these are the foundations these are the beams these are the pillars that need

  368. to really be laid on without which so so the foundation and the structure part of it these

  369. guys laid down in a particular region and then they inaugurate the church they inaugurate the

  370. church by by evangelizing they bring the people in and they they establish them in the teaching

  371. they put the initial formats in place they appoint elders

  372. and then there are sometimes that we need the initial evangelists that bring in the people

  373. the pastor teachers to establish the people and this is how it's built initially and after building

  374. it initially they hand this over to elders and deacons who are more of the local church

  375. leaders leadership

  376. apostolic leadership is going in establishing it handing it over so that this type of leaders move

  377. to another place and do the same thing all over again today the apostle is someone who can preach

  378. well and signs wonders and miracles happen or he's an evangelist or he's prophetic in that's how we

  379. we process them as individual titles and evangelists so and so prophet so and so

  380. apostle so and so that's not found in the new testament they they moved together as a team that

  381. actually evangelized established and appointed elders these are the three core function of the

  382. apostolic team which means they were a team that actually operated in the five fold giftedness

  383. and some of them call it four fold some of them call it five fold i still believe that that's one

  384. one set of things that we need to do as function in order that the church be

  385. inaugurated and church be handed over to local elders yes

  386. prophets some so the prophets actually get the original structures in place for a particular

  387. location so so sometimes so you have a big picture of what god is doing in that region

  388. the prophets have insights into how the foundational teaching of the scriptures and in fact

  389. in fact theologians theologians in culture theologians in culture that not not theologians

  390. in the seminaries but the theologians in culture of taking the word of god for that particular area

  391. for that particular culture is actually very prophetic work they need to receive insights

  392. from god and how do they structure for that structure to to to see the wind pressure that

  393. is in that place and spiritual atmospheres of that place the prophetic there needs to be a

  394. prophetic insight of what needs to be done first what is the strength that is needed

  395. to be able to then contextualize it and and and build those teaching structures in place

  396. and so different from the understanding of prophetic and the gift of prophecy where you

  397. give foretelling issues like and um there are there are times when jacob operates in the

  398. prophecy foretelling of what god is going to do in your lives that's more of an individual prophecy

  399. but he operates in the prophetic of of what god wants to do in the spiritual realms and

  400. dismantling certain things over regions and so i have the experience of both operational in jacob's

  401. life and you go to certain places over the nation where you got to go to certain places to dismantle

  402. certain powers of darkness and give a clarity on how this church needs to operate in and that's

  403. that's the true that to to get a grasp of the new testament prophet that's the foundational piece

  404. that the prophetic needs to be doing in the apostolic team the the apostolic gets a big picture

  405. of what god wants to do so this this morning this evening when i'm coming in i'm more coming as an

  406. apostolic understanding of what god is going to do in and through great and greater vancouver on

  407. cooperating with jacob on on saying that let's build this around the greater vancouver area

  408. so evangelists are truly not just confined to one church only one local congregation they are

  409. actually moving around for that entire place to be evangelized in order that the churches can i so

  410. it's not like evangelists operate in one only one church they they the gift of evangelism needs to

  411. be part of everyone else the act of evangelism must be part of everyone evangelists are gifted

  412. people that god uses to bring people to the saving knowledge of jesus so that the problem

  413. today's evangelists don't operate with churches they operate as an organization separated from

  414. the church which is not what the scriptures is talking about they actually over a region

  415. they are evangelizing and they are actually a network with churches so that they can bring

  416. those who come to the same knowledge of jesus into the churches then you have a question

  417. question

  418. through one person yes absolutely was we can't confine paul to be is he an apostle yes is he a

  419. prophet yes is he an evangelist absolutely yes is he a pastor teacher yes so it could actually be

  420. just this one person that that is actually functioning so it's not so it's not a person

  421. the greatest challenge in the 21st century christianity is we can find the gift to a person

  422. it's not the person it's a function giftedness in order to accomplish a function

  423. and if someone else is not that god is going to use you in all these things

  424. until someone is raising up so when me and jacob work together i don't have to work prophetic at all

  425. because as there's that's heavy so and as we grow there is a maturity in the giftedness that we

  426. are sharpened in certain giftedness over the other

  427. clear there's clarity on the heaviness of prophetic over jacob's life than any other giftedness

  428. but doesn't mean that he's not functioning apostolically as an apostle he does

  429. in places that there's no other when it comes into a scenario such as chennai he does not actually

  430. mess around with the with the role of an apostle he fits into the role of of being prophetic

  431. and so that's that's how it really begins the dynamic begins to work because as more people with

  432. maturity of giftedness arise i i will move more to heavily onto what god has gifted me in

  433. and we mature into that over a period of time so so those people who just are arising and are

  434. calling themselves prophets or apostles we need to ask them to lay low keep quiet it's okay take

  435. your time over a period of time people recognize you for your giftedness you don't declare who you

  436. are people recognize you for who you are you're getting the idea of the apostolic theme apostolic

  437. team is a gifted team by jesus to go about progression of the gospel the planting the

  438. establishing the multiplication of churches and the appointment of elders these are the roles of

  439. the apostolic team the gifted the gifted leaders not that the other leaders are not gifted but these

  440. are gifted leaders for the progression of the gospel

  441. larger than a particular local

  442. okay these are gifted leaders there are there are people who can't actually move

  443. beyond a certain place because the man it's so different you got to understand and experience

  444. this what operates over the nation of india is so different from what operates over the nation of

  445. canada what operates in greater vancouver is different from what operates in toronto

  446. and some people are are not given that sphere and some people are given that sphere

  447. and these are spheres decided not just by me or you it's it's it's decided

  448. in the spiritual realms and by god and it and sometimes we grow from sphere to sphere as we

  449. as we enlarge peter actually confined himself although he was given a larger sphere peter

  450. confined himself to jews mores paul did not have that limitation he was able to operate amongst

  451. jews gentiles kings anyone and so there is a there's something that is assigned by god

  452. one number two there is also a willingness to to go that extra mile because those who are not

  453. willing to move can't apostolic needs strong stomachs in a sense like must be able to handle

  454. many things must be able to handle tiredness there's some capabilities and abilities that

  455. that is in that those kinds of people that makes them adopt to different cultures within few

  456. within few minutes you need to be able to adopt to different cultures different people they are quite

  457. able to do that these are this is a this is a giftedness issue there's some personality

  458. types attached to it i believe i don't have the whole gamut of it so i'm not teaching

  459. i'm just exploring and understanding these things a little more every every time as we

  460. start to move and understand the biblical understanding of what this apostolic team is

  461. so

  462. they are gifted leaders for the progression of the gospel larger than a particular local

  463. there are people who evangelize establish

  464. appoint elders

  465. and multiply churches

  466. so

  467. they're gifted leaders for the progression of the gospel larger than a particular local

  468. and therefore apostolic leader is someone who is not just limited within

  469. within greater Vancouver no apostolic leader is a type of leader that's beyond that local

  470. and he operates in a larger sphere

  471. so

  472. is this okay

  473. it was necessary yes thanks

  474. yes

  475. the old covenant i think this was the plan of god right from beginning when he called Abraham

  476. and he said um out of your family the whole nations of the world will be blessed

  477. and the heart heart of by which he gave them the promised land in a very strategic you need to

  478. understand israel and canon is a strategic location which is the centerpiece for the entire world

  479. even the location where israel is placed

  480. is at the at the midpoint of was almost equidistant to all because it must be because

  481. the world is round i believe but it's almost like that's the location and the local that god

  482. chose for the people to be a kingdom of priests that's the call you are to are to be a kingdom of

  483. you are to are to be a kingdom of peace and a holy nation so that the gentiles would come

  484. to the light and so you see evidences of it when god is calling all the nations through the prophets

  485. so you see that at one point of time the nation of israel suddenly shifting their entire call

  486. into becoming like the nations of the world

  487. it happens during judge samuel and they got it appointed leaders amongst them the judges were

  488. leaders amongst them but suddenly they wanted a king like the other nations and then when

  489. sol is appointed as king with a lot of warning of how they will go and what will happen because

  490. they wanted it they got granted it with an equal heavy weightage on how this is going to

  491. destroy the nation and their call and so you see from sol's appointment israel behaves like a

  492. wealthy nation and has has deviated from the kingdom of reason therefore the movement

  493. the it all it begins from the kingdom of peace and the hesitation right from beginning for them

  494. to come and approach god on mount sinai and then the appointment of someone in between god and them

  495. which is the priesthood you are supposed to be a royal priesthood but then you have included a

  496. priest you are going to be a nation which is theocracy that means god is your king but you

  497. wanted a king you are a group of people that is a family a tribe of tribes with elders amongst you

  498. but now you wanted a king to rule over you and so you israel actually loses the plot all along

  499. and then jesus comes into the scene and he shakes the entire thing up and says no that's not how

  500. it's for all the people so god so loved the world that he gave us only be ordered

  501. and apostolic giftedness that come out of the the kingly the priestly and the the king the priest

  502. and the prophet who's jesus has been distributed amongst his church the community so that that

  503. which christ did would continue to be done in and through the apostolic and will be maintained and

  504. held together by the elders and deacons in each of the local communities which is the same as families

  505. so that same pattern of the world continues on except that now we have a greater and a better

  506. understanding because of the death burial and resurrection of that this dividing wall between

  507. jews and gentiles have been broken it's not a clarity for god it's a clarity for us right from

  508. beginning god has held us for the for the whole not for a few but why he does that he is first

  509. sitting apart of people and so you got to understand recognize jews are of abraham was

  510. abraham was not a jew abraham today we don't really salute iraqis but we need to

  511. there's a if you really go to the roots of abraham is an iraqi not an israelite and a jew

  512. so who are the chosen people iraqis

  513. is

  514. my name is jacob

  515. that's what you do every time my name is that

  516. is that

  517. are you getting it i think i think let's let's proceed on to tomorrow

  518. this is a good time to stop and

  519. any any other questions it'll be good to clarify this part of it so that tomorrow we can launch

  520. deeper

  521. S

  522. the bond and the people, the people and the folks.

  523. We can limit it only to, there are parts of the limit,

  524. where I'm sorry, we limit it only to their folks.

  525. And they, and they stay there by it.

  526. So that's not how the folks are,

  527. because we have a better understanding of the people.

  528. So it's better that we come to a place where we have

  529. what is the spirit of what we are trying to do.

  530. So this becomes like a kind of base for all the people.

  531. The mind's mind will become like a base for all the people.

  532. So that's the way it is.

  533. So that's the way it is.

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  538. So that's the way it is.

  539. So that's the way it is.

  540. So that's the way it is.

  541. So that's the way it is.

  542. The mind's mind will become like a base for all the people.

  543. But why is it that tomorrow we will have to have a new base?

  544. Because there are people in New York,

  545. new people in New York,

  546. and they will be too scared to come out.

  547. They will not come out and come to the city.

  548. They will be scared to come to the city.

  549. So we buy the house in New York.

  550. We are not confident.

  551. When you have a house, you feel a lot more of fear.

  552. Does it work for you?

  553. I'm not going to go far out and tell the people here.

  554. I'm not going to tell you.

  555. This is why it is important to celebrate the next year's life.

  556. With everything you've bought,

  557. you will miss it once you're gone.

  558. It's time for what you want to do.

  559. He will be in the Apatology of the Cyberian.

  560. If you didn't have a vaccine, then I would be here.

  561. I would be back in a bit.

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  658. Even before daybreak.

  659. Even before daybreak.

  660. You have a sense of the heart and it's not random.

  661. I'm guessing that again and again it's not random.

  662. It is something that

  663. I'm under-preparing to do this for you guys.

  664. I...

  665. But naturally if you see

  666. these are nice cuts that are

  667. even if you stick

  668. a cut to the cut,

  669. they're not stuck to the area.

  670. They do.

  671. This is

  672. one of the ground-bound

  673. I'm sorry, very

  674. large-scale

  675. people in the world.

  676. They are people

  677. that are under-prepared.

  678. That's one of the

  679. basic things that I've seen

  680. in the past few years.

  681. They're not just

  682. here alone.

  683. There are many people

  684. that are just in the same place.

  685. In apotolic there are two ways.

  686. There's no reason.

  687. There's no reason to be

  688. in the same place.

  689. I've heard of two experiences

  690. where people work in the same place

  691. or in the same place.

  692. But apotolic there are two.

  693. They work.

  694. Now that's true.

  695. You hear about the land and the land.

  696. In terms of

  697. food, in terms of

  698. people, in terms of climate.

  699. So you don't want to be starving for

  700. land.

  701. If you like your city,

  702. only in your best.

  703. These are

  704. two things.

  705. So what happens

  706. when people

  707. are in the same place

  708. with the local government?

  709. It is much more than a problem for them.

  710. They call it

  711. fall.

  712. And fall is a different way of

  713. approaching it. Apotolic is

  714. a place of

  715. a certain kind of

  716. local government.

  717. Because the local government

  718. is the greatest

  719. leader in the country.

  720. Because they are

  721. gifted people and you don't want to leave them.

  722. So

  723. you don't want to leave them.

  724. So you don't want to leave them.

  725. So you don't want to leave them.

  726. So you don't want to leave them.

  727. So you don't want to leave them.

  728. So you don't want to leave them.

  729. So you don't want to leave them.

  730. So you don't want to leave them.

  731. So you don't want to leave them.

  732. So you don't want to leave them.

  733. So always I have to go to the

  734. local government

  735. to release them.

  736. There are gifted

  737. people.

  738. Apotolic.

  739. They didn't do that.

  740. So that's why

  741. I'm going to

  742. explain.

  743. Here in the center

  744. there are

  745. Apotolic

  746. people.

  747. Apotolic

  748. people.

  749. Apotolic

  750. people.

  751. They don't have

  752. to do that

  753. because they are

  754. gifted people.

  755. They don't have to do that.

  756. They are gifted people.

  757. So they don't have to do that.

  758. If you believe

  759. that something

  760. is going to be

  761. looked at

  762. but I don't know if you do.

  763. I'm not going to do it.

  764. Sometimes I fail

  765. in the community.

  766. Sometimes I don't.

  767. I'm just going to give you a few minutes

  768. to find out what you want to do.

  769. What you want to do.

  770. And I don't know

  771. what you want to do.

  772. I'm just going to give you a little bit

  773. of an idea.

  774. So you can

  775. have a look at

  776. the community.

  777. You can have a look at the community.

  778. And that's what

  779. we are talking about.

  780. We are asking

  781. with them

  782. we have a certain view

  783. that they are connected to

  784. a community. Sometimes it's not

  785. always connected to the community

  786. because by the time they are involved

  787. they are not

  788. connected to

  789. a community.

  790. They are not directly connected to

  791. a community.

  792. So we are asking

  793. them to be connected to a community.

  794. So that's what we are doing.

  795. We are asking them

  796. to be connected to a community.

  797. This is a map

  798. that we are using.

  799. So for what?

  800. We are setting up our community for

  801. a community. Why are we setting up our community?

  802. So we have a community

  803. and we want to see

  804. that we have more people for a community.

  805. Any other community.

  806. What we are doing is

  807. that our better friends and

  808. communities are managed by across the entire

  809. world.

  810. That the freedom of the world

  811. has become a community of friends.

  812. That's what we are doing.

  813. That's our goal.

  814. And as long as

  815. we are friends we are going to help

  816. to do it.

  817. This is what we are calling for

  818. everybody.

  819. Whether you are working

  820. elsewhere or working in a

  821. district or a

  822. community.

  823. Father, by your spirit

  824. help us to ruminate on this.

  825. Today

  826. we are going to come back more

  827. and more. Father,

  828. you have the ability to take

  829. certain sentences that

  830. you are not used to.

  831. It's really like an hour that feels like

  832. a month.