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  1. Okay, guys, today the topic is Uncondemned. Uncondemned. And why would that come under

  2. teleos? Because I think it's a mature final position that every Christian must stand in

  3. if he is to survive on earth. And it's not given enough emphasis. To be, to be Christians

  4. who walk uncondemned is a rarity. It's one of the weapons that Satan has been able to yield,

  5. wield against Christians very, very powerfully. And so if teleos means coming into a place or

  6. living out of a place of maturity, then walking as ones who are uncondemned is critical to both

  7. receiving things from heaven and battling things on earth. And so it's a very deliberate topic.

  8. It's not something that I chose because I didn't have anything else to speak about. It is the

  9. position to operate from. It is the position to operate from. To be uncondemned. It's the position

  10. I operate from on earth. Let's look at John chapter 8. I think that's where we'll start.

    John 8 chapter mention

  11. Can you get the Bible from my bag? I think there's a Bible in there.

  12. No? Is there a Bible anywhere there? Nope. Cool. John chapter 8. But where's mine? I like my Bible.

    John 8 chapter mention

  13. Okay. John chapter 8. No, not that one. Cool. Thanks man. John 8.

    John 8 chapter mention

  14. I'm going to start with that scripture. John chapter 8. Okay.

    John 8 chapter mention

  15. But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. At dawn he appeared again at the temple courts,

  16. where all the people gathered around him and he sat down to teach. The teachers of the law

  17. and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group

  18. and said to Jesus, teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the law,

  19. Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say? They were using this question as a

  20. trap in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the

  21. ground with his finger. When they kept questioning him, he straightened up and said to them,

  22. if anyone of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her. Again he stooped

  23. down and he wrote on the ground. At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older

  24. ones first, until only Jesus was left. With the woman still standing there, Jesus straightened up

  25. and asked her, woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you? No answer she said. Then neither

  26. do I condemn you, Jesus declared. Go now and leave your life of sin. And so here is the story that I

  27. want to start with. And I would suggest that when Jesus stooped down to write the first time,

  28. one of the ways we can figure out what Jesus wrote is just by looking at the hand of God in

  29. the Old Testament. Because whenever the Holy Spirit brings out a certain way of presenting things,

  30. he's usually done it before he wants to have a common reference point. And so I would suggest

  31. that the first time Jesus stooped down and started writing, he probably wrote down Exodus 20 13.

  32. And Exodus 20 13 says, you shall not commit adultery.

  33. That was once written on a stone tablet with the hand of God.

  34. And in what he writes, he is disarming his opponents too, because they wanted to test him,

  35. saying will he stick by the law or will he not? And so on one hand, the first time he probably

  36. stooped to write, he wrote Exodus 20 13. Because that was a hand of God in the Old Testament when

  37. Moses presented, when God wrote on tablets of stone with his hand. And then the second time he

  38. stoops and writes, it's from Daniel chapter five, verse five and then verse 27, because there was

  39. a hand of God there. And he probably wrote the word tekel. And tekel means you have been weighed

  40. and you have been found wanting. Where there was a king, if you go to Daniel five,

  41. Daniel five,

  42. with my Bible, I know where Daniel is.

  43. Daniel five,

  44. verse five says, suddenly the fingers of a human hand appeared and wrote on the plaster of the wall

  45. near the lampstand in the royal palace. The king watched as a hand wrote it. And then in verse 27,

  46. it says,

  47. this is what these words mean. Many, God has numbered the days of your reign and brought it

  48. to an end. Tekel, you have been weighed on the scales and found wanting. Perez, your kingdom is

  49. divided and given to the Medes and Persians. I would suggest to you that the second time he

  50. stooped and wrote, he wrote the word tekel, which means you have been weighed and found wanting.

  51. And these older men with stones there probably knew these stories better because they had learned

  52. them right from when they were kids. The first one is Exodus 20, 13, you shall not commit adultery.

  53. The second one is you have been weighed and found wanting. And the men walk away. And then you go

  54. to Colossians two, 14 and 15, and you realize that Jesus wanted to make sure that no one is ever

  55. condemned again by what is written. And so if you go to Colossians two, 14 and 15, you see the final

  56. act that Jesus engages in that for once and for all removes this condition of condemnation from

  57. my life. Every time I walk the earth as a believer, condemned, there's something seriously wrong with

  58. my Christianity. And everybody here walks that way every week. And it is wrong.

  59. So Colossians two, 14 and 15,

  60. starting at 13. When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature,

  61. God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins. I love the next part.

  62. Having canceled the written code with its regulations that was against us and that stood

  63. opposed to us, he took it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disowned the powers and

  64. authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. And so condemnation

  65. is when there's, you are judged guilty. Condemnation is judging you guilty. Condemnation

  66. is stripping you of intrinsic dignity. Condemnation is making you forfeit

  67. what or who you are. Condemnation is dooming you to punishment and sentence. This is what condemnation

  68. looks like and it has no place in Christianity. Condemnation is declaring you unfit for use.

  69. None of these things apply to a Christian. None of these things. Which also means then that I am

  70. not supposed to cause anyone to feel the weight of condemnation. And if I do, then I'm doing

  71. something very un-Christ-like. I'm doing something very un-Christ-like. So condemnation, and this

  72. woman, that was what was happening to her. This woman was being brought before Jesus and here are

  73. the things that are being done to her. She's being judged guilty. She's being stripped of her intrinsic

  74. value, as in stripped of her intrinsic dignity before these men. The man who committed adultery

  75. for him is missing. Only she's been caught and she's being stripped of her intrinsic dignity or

  76. worth. She's unfit for use. She's going to be stoned. She's doomed to punishment and the

  77. punishment was you shall not commit adultery. One who's caught in adultery shall be stoned.

  78. And it is forfeiting who you are or what you are. There are other people in the Bible who went through

  79. the same thing and we'll talk about them. But this is what condemnation looks like and we,

  80. right from when we are kids, bear the weight of it and when we come into Christianity we still

  81. continue laboring under it. You take Absalom and you see David doing it to him. Absalom,

  82. Second Samuel, Second Samuel. Where could my Bible go? Do I sound obsessed with my Bible?

  83. No, I didn't take it out in the car.

  84. Second Samuel, 14.

  85. See in my Bible I know where it is. Here I don't know whether it's before Kings or after Chronicles.

  86. Second Samuel, 14. Second Samuel, 14. You see verse 14. Now guys the thing is sometimes condemnation

  87. is the result of something you've done. Absalom murdered his half-brother Amnon and so he is put

  88. out of the family and yet there is no place for condemnation in Christianity. This is how

  89. precious it is to God and this is how not precious it is to us.

  90. And so Absalom, Second Samuel, 14, verse 14.

    2 Samuel 14:14

  91. This is a woman from Tekoa who's been set up by Joab to talk to David and then she's pleading

  92. for Absalom and here's what she says starting at verse 13.

  93. The woman said,

  94. Why then have you devised a thing like this against the people of God?

  95. When the king says this, does he not convict himself? For the king has not brought back

  96. his banished son. Verse 14.

  97. And then go to verse 24 and you see that David still doesn't go through.

  98. A man after God's own heart and this is his son. Verse 24, starting at 23.

  99. The story of David could have been so different if he had treated Absalom correctly.

  100. David was a man after God's own heart but he was not a good father.

  101. And so before you accuse anyone of being an Absalom, make sure that you're not David.

  102. Because it's easy in, especially in churches for leaders and pastors to say, ah, Derek, oh,

  103. this guy or that guy, Derek isn't, Derek's brilliant. But it's easy to call someone Absalom.

  104. And before you call someone Absalom, you have to make sure that you haven't been David to him.

  105. Because you can be a man after God's own heart and you can still treat Absalom with respect.

  106. And you can still treat Absalom wrongly. After being given great wisdom by God through the woman

  107. in Tekoa, woman from Tekoa and Joab, David still says, but he will not see my face. In the ancient

  108. Near East to be shut off from someone's face was the ultimate indignity that you could heap on

  109. someone while living in your own house. I mean, this is why God says, the Lord bless you and make

  110. his face to shine upon you. To withdraw your face was to show an unwillingness to

  111. grant favor. So it doesn't matter that this is a result of Absalom committing a heinous crime.

  112. Condemnation still doesn't have a place in the kingdom.

  113. And as we speak, you will find that we labor under condemnation on a regular basis. And it is one of

  114. Satan's most insidious and most effective weapons.

  115. Now the guy who went through this was Jonah in Jonah chapter one, verse 12.

  116. Stop complaining and find Jonah. Jonah one, verse 12. Here is condemnation that is self-imposed,

  117. where Jonah tells them, listen, throw me overboard. Jonah chapter one, verse 12, he says that,

  118. Jonah chapter one, verse 12, he says that, so they asked him, what should we do to

  119. do to you to make the sea calm down for us? Pick me up and throw me into the sea, he replied,

  120. and it will become calm. I know that it is my fault that this great storm has come upon you.

  121. This is self-condemnation. And if you think you don't do it, I'm telling you, you're living,

  122. you're living in a dream world. You and I condemn ourselves and are so severe upon ourselves.

  123. We have no idea. There's no exception. As I look around you, I'm telling you, to the degree that I

  124. know you, and some of you I know better than others, we labor under self-condemnation if nobody

  125. else condemns us, because we are very severe on ourselves. And it robs God of his ability to be

  126. who he wants to be, because he has to work through my personality sometimes.

  127. And then let's look at another one. And leprosy, by the way, was

  128. a disease that condemned you. It just banished you. And sometimes, yeah, I mean, look at 2 Chronicles

  129. 26, 2 Chronicles 26, 2 Chronicles 26. It's about a king called Uzziah. And he does something that

  130. he shouldn't have done. He breaks boundaries, yes, but then because of breaking boundaries, he

  131. struck with leprosy. And it says in 2 Chronicles 26, verse 19 to 21, Uzziah, who had a censor in

    2 Chronicles 26:19–21

  132. his hand, ready to burn incense, became angry. While he was raging at the priests in their

  133. presence before the incense altar in the Lord's temple, leprosy broke out on his forehead.

  134. When Azariah, the chief priest, and all the other priests looked at him, they saw that he had leprosy

  135. on his forehead. They hurried him out. Indeed, he himself was eager to leave because the Lord had

  136. afflicted him. And so here are situations where in the Old Testament, to condemn somebody was very

  137. normal because we must not forget what is said in 1 Corinthians 15, 56, that the power of sin

  138. is in the law, as in the law was given. Do not do this. If you break the law,

  139. it becomes sin. And every time there is sin, there is a curse. But Jesus comes along and he

  140. changes things and we'll talk about that. We cannot continue to labor under condemnation. It is wrong.

  141. Condemnation is, I mean, let's leave the Old Testament and New Testament and think of

  142. divorcees in church. Do you know the condemnation that comes upon ones that are divorced?

  143. Do you know the condemnation that comes upon pastors and leaders that have had affairs?

  144. So Jacob, where is the space for judgment and discipline? We'll talk about that.

  145. But we must understand this thing called condemnation is very different. It has no space,

  146. no place, no attraction in the kingdom. If someone does commit an affair, if it is a family,

  147. your family deals with it. If it is a church, you dismiss a person.

  148. The stigma that you live with when you commit something like that is lifelong.

  149. Now, when we talk about how to think and look at judging, discipline, forgiveness, restoration,

  150. condemnation, admonition, then you'll find that they're different, but condemnation has no place.

  151. Condemnation is what the enemy uses continuously the moment we do anything wrong. That is why I'm

  152. saying none of you are spared from it because all of us do something wrong. If you are without wrong,

  153. stand up so we can stone you. I'm kidding. I was not supposed to condemn you.

  154. The point is, because we all do wrong, this is an instrument used by Satan because the voice of

  155. condemnation is accusation. The voice that condemnation has a voice and that voice is

  156. accusation. Condemnation has a voice. It is affected through accusation. It is a chief activity

  157. for Satan. It is a chief activity of Satan. He is called the accuser. In Job chapter 1, verse 9 and

    Job 1:9

  158. 10, we see that he used accusation as a means to undermine God's verdict on Job, saying skin for skin

  159. accusation. In Zechariah 3, there's this brilliant passage where Satan comes against Joshua,

  160. the high priest. You think he doesn't come against you?

  161. Zechariah 3, verse 1. Aaron, Renny, where are you guys, man? My coffee is getting cold.

    Zechariah 3:1

  162. And you thought it was because I wanted you to be here.

  163. I'm just kidding, man. I really do. Zechariah 3.

  164. Then he showed me Joshua, the high priest, standing before the angel of the Lord,

  165. and Satan standing at his right side to accuse him. The Lord said to Satan,

  166. the Lord rebuke you, Satan, the Lord who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you. Is this man not a

  167. burning stick snatched from the fire? Now, Joshua was dressed in filthy clothes as he stood before

  168. the angel. The angel said to those who were standing before him, take off his filthy clothes.

  169. Then he said to Joshua, see, I've taken away your sin and I will put rich garments on you.

  170. And then I said, put a clean turban on his head. So they put a clean turban on his head and they

  171. clothed him while the angel of the Lord stood by. Here was the high priest being accused. Condemnation

  172. is always brought in through accusation. Let's just look at one more scripture, Revelation 12,

    Revelation 12:10

  173. verse 10. Just in case you thought you weren't part of this scheme that the enemy has. Revelation 12,

    Revelation 12:11

  174. verse 11, starting at verse 10. Then I heard a loud voice in heaven saying, Now

  175. have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his

  176. Christ. For the accuser of our brothers who accuses them before our God day and night has been hurled

  177. down. This is why he's called the accuser of the brothers.

  178. Condemnation has a voice. It is affected through accusation.

  179. And the thing is guys, because Satan no longer has traction in heaven, he tries to smother you in an

  180. echo chamber where condemnation and accusation is continuously thrown at you, either through people

  181. or through direct voices that you hear or through the Old Testament law or through people

  182. speaking or through pastors telling you how lousy you are. Whatever the method be, condemnation is

  183. still used effectively because Satan has no traction in heaven. He now comes and whispers in your ear.

  184. It's insidious. It is soul crushing. It's like putting a hood on someone who's going to be taken

  185. to the hangman's news. You put on a hood and inside that hood you continuously hear these voices

  186. that condemn you, that remind you of your past, that remind you of how you did this, remind you

  187. of regret, remind you of what if you had not done this, what if you had not done this, what if you

  188. did this, remind you of regret, remind you of what if you had not done that. It is this continuous

  189. accusation. The intent is if I keep accusing you, can I bring you to a place where you walk not as

  190. one who is uncondemned but walk as one who is condemned, desperately trying to swim in righteousness?

  191. And the older you are, the more garbage there is to throw at you.

  192. Until we come every morning to a place where our filthy garments are removed and a turban is put on

  193. our heads, you will continuously be reminded of what you were thinking yesterday and you'll be

  194. continuously reminded of your feisty spattered garments. That's the actual sense of the word in

  195. Zechariah 3. It is not some little mud or snow that was thrown on you. Remove the snow from your

  196. head. Remove this hood guys. It doesn't matter how young or how old you are. Remove this hood. It must end.

  197. I cannot walk as one condemned but I must walk as one uncondemned because there's far too much

  198. fuel that I'm burning up trying to work through this. What it does is it deceives or blinds you

  199. to the truth. After that it defiles you because you're continuously trying to

  200. do the Macbeth thing of washing yourself and then it distorts the finished work of Christ. It distorts

  201. the finished work of Christ. He's saying, Jacob, I nailed everything that stands against you. Every

  202. indicting legal debt that you owed, I've nailed it to the cross. I can understand your sinning.

  203. I can understand you walking away from me but I do not want you to walk in this place, gray place

  204. of condemnation. I do not want you to walk. I want you, Jacob, for the rest

  205. of your life to walk as one uncondemned. Run to God before condemnation damages your mind.

  206. Teach your children how to do this. Children who go to school are being condemned by their peers

  207. every day, are condemned by culture every day, are condemned by what they learn every day,

  208. are condemned by people who think otherwise every day. Teach your children how to deal with

  209. accusations and condemnation early. If you don't teach them that, they do not have a safe place to

  210. run to. They do not have a refuge. They do not have a place to run to. Psalm 109, two Psalms that

  211. talk about David's fight with accusation and condemnation are Psalm 7 and Psalm 109. And in

  212. Psalm 109, if you go to 21 to 31, Psalm 109, 21 to 31, before that he wishes ill on those who

  213. accused him. And you can wish that ill upon the devil but read Psalm 109, 21 to 31.

  214. But you, O sovereign Lord, deal well with me for your name's sake. Out of the goodness of your love,

  215. love you deliver me. For I'm poor and needy and my heart is wounded within me. I fade away like an

  216. evening shadow. I'm shaken off like a locust. My knees give away from fasting. My body is thin and

  217. gaunt. I'm an object of scorn to my accusers. When they see me, they shake their heads. Help me, O

  218. Lord, my God. Save me in accordance with your love. Let them know that it is in your hand that you,

  219. O Lord, have done it. They may curse but you will bless. When they attack, they'll be put to shame.

  220. But your servant will rejoice. My accusers will be clothed with disgrace and wrapped in shame as in

  221. a cloak. With my mouth, I will greatly extol the Lord. In the great throng, I will praise him.

  222. For he stands at the right hand of the needy one and to save his life from those who condemn him.

  223. From this place of refuge, guys, whenever you are struggling with condemnation, be it something that

  224. comes, say, from me, be it something that comes from your spouse or your child, be it something

  225. that comes from your own sin, be it something that comes from your past or yourself imposed

  226. condemnation, be it something that you have done wrong like Absalom, be it something where you've

  227. been caught like the woman caught in adultery, regardless of where the condemnation comes from,

  228. run to God before it damages your mind. Run to God before it damages your mind

  229. because it has the potential to damage your mind. Run to God before it damages your mind.

  230. Remember, condemnation has a voice and that voice is accusation. It uses words,

  231. words spoken by people, words spoken by the devil, words spoken by your own mind because you have

  232. a mind that is not renewed. From this place of refuge, now begin to figure out, father,

  233. what I feel, how do I judge it, how do I judge it. There's no way to judge it.

  234. How do I judge it? There's nothing wrong with judging things, eh? One is supposed to judge things.

  235. To judge is to use the word as a plumb line

  236. and see whether you're right or wrong.

  237. And it's based on the nature of God and the nature of the word, nature of God and nature of the word.

  238. That's what you use to judge where you're at. Have the words that have been spoken against me.

  239. Do they carry any weight? Father, let me use your word and your nature to judge what has been spoken.

  240. Hebrews 412 talks about how the word is good for this. It helps us judge between the intent

  241. and the motives, goes right between heart and soul.

  242. Then there is, okay, were the words spoken a form of admonition

  243. where God does use words that people speak to rebuke, to correct,

  244. so that he won't have to resort to discipline.

  245. 2 Timothy 3 16 talks about how the word is essential for rebuke, for correction, for admonition.

  246. The point is, can I admonish or rebuke somebody or can somebody do that to me and I hear it

  247. and now I prevent myself from sowing what I should not sow and I prevent myself from stepping into

  248. consequences that I don't want to suffer. There is a place for this, but remember the nature of

  249. condemnation. Condemnation strips you of your intrinsic dignity. It dooms you to punishment or

  250. sentence. It makes you forfeit who you are. It renders you unfit for use.

  251. It always carries in it guilt, punishment and sentence. That we do not operate under in this

  252. kingdom. That is for the world. If you are a new creation and the old order is passing away,

  253. step out of the old order in this area because you are a new creation.

  254. Even when it is your fault, this is not a grace message.

  255. Like a hyper grace message is what I meant.

  256. When admonition fails, that's when discipline kicks in.

  257. That's when discipline kicks in.

  258. When God now disciplines you sometimes through people because his intent is through discipline

  259. can I prevent destruction that awaits you Jacob and through discipline can I form new habits.

  260. His intent is through discipline can I prevent destruction that awaits you Jacob and through

  261. discipline can I form new habits. The last word is habits.

  262. Third one down, this one.

  263. What about you?

  264. Guys, just so you know, you guys are all wearing masks. I can't hear you.

  265. Yeah, so if we throw out everything that people say to us then we'll be like horses without

  266. blinders and we'll go wherever we want to and get into trouble. There is this place for judging

  267. things on your own. There is this place for being rebuked and corrected. And so 2 Timothy 3 says the

  268. word is good for rebuking, for correcting, for admonition. So there is a place for that and the

  269. intent with God when he wants to rebuke me over something is hey Jacob I'm rebuking you through

  270. this person or through this situation so that you do not step into consequences you'll regret and

  271. you do not want to sow things that will cause you to reap a certain weight. So rebuke is good

  272. but it shouldn't carry in it the ingredients of condemnation.

  273. You want to answer the message? Don we can wait. Okay, just checking.

  274. Like that Cuba Gooding movie, if it ain't God, don't take it.

  275. Condemnation is a sentence to punish, to forfeit, to attribute fault and guilt. It's fueled and

  276. sustained by accusation. It carries penalty. It's an ancient satanic device. It brings sin. It brings

  277. guilt. Ah and then it brings torment and the demonic and we'll talk about that. On the other hand,

  278. after all this, there's this place where you forgive through a process of restitution and

  279. restoration. Where there's a change of habit and if people insist that they want to see a change of

  280. habit and they say show us that you're changing, go through a process of discipline. Be restored.

  281. Be restored. Great, go through it.

  282. Any questions before I go on? I just wanted to show you this so that we don't think that this

  283. is a life where there's absolutely no discipline, no correction. I'm just saying there is no

  284. condemnation. I'm deciding that I will not walk condemned anymore because I condemn myself because

  285. I'm severe on how I am. I'm severe on myself. I condemn myself through your words, attitudes,

  286. thoughts. I condemn myself through listening to what the devil is saying, casting doubt.

  287. I condemn myself thinking of things that I may have done long ago that I am well forgiven for,

  288. but it's thrown up again as muck. I condemn myself after I sin because it is like, am I back in God's

  289. good books? Can I continue from where I started or do I have to work my way through into his good books?

  290. I refuse to live like this. It's a horrible way of living when I'm supposed to be someone

  291. who is already in the kingdom.

  292. This is why I'm saying it's a mature way of living. It's a fully formed way of living.

  293. So can God destroy with his anger?

  294. Yeah, he did. He just destroyed Jesus. Put all his anger upon him who hung on the cross,

  295. and it was a bloody mess, like a piece of butchered meat, the likes of which even Mel Gibson

  296. could not capture in the movie Passion. On him we see the wrath of God. And the,

  297. you know, the strange thing is you are not forgiven because you're sorry for your sin.

  298. You're forgiven because someone took your sin and was punished for it. We often think that it is

  299. our sorryness that makes God forgive us. Our sorryness is an admission of a violation of a

  300. relationship. But we are forgiven because someone was punished cruelly for it and was undone by it.

  301. What bothers me often when I read Isaiah 52 is that he was so butchered that his mother could

  302. not recognize him because his face was so deformed by the beating. In Mel Gibson's thing, we can still

  303. know it's Jesus. The Shroud of Turin, if it ever was real, was just a bloody mess. There was no

  304. outline there, let me assure you. Sorry Diana, I'll come back to you.

  305. The question that Karuna asked was, the Old Testament God seems to be an angry God and the

  306. New Testament God seems to be a kind God. Does God destroy? And I would say to you that the Old

  307. Testament and the New Testament God aren't angry, that in Exodus 33 he reveals himself as one who is

  308. kind and loving and compassionate to thousands of generations. But his absolute hatred for sin

  309. is what Israel shows us is happening. Israel should be commended. I mean if there's any

  310. obligation that we owe to that nation, it is that that nation showed us God's holiness

  311. and that nation paid the price for unholiness and

  312. example for us what we as Christians should be, that I owe them a debt for.

  313. And then along comes Christ and he now says this cannot go on forever. I must step in so that

  314. people may come back to me and know me as a kind, good father.

  315. As a kind, good father. What does the world think most of God? It thinks that he condemns.

  316. Please understand what we're dealing with here. This is far greater than we think. The world thinks

  317. that God condemns. What does the world think of the church that we condemn?

  318. What does the world think of the church that we condemn?

  319. And in a sense, the foundational message of God that we are supposed to announce to the world

  320. is that we are willing to pour out in our lives to communicate this simple truth.

  321. There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ.

  322. Romans 8.1 is so much more than a personal stance. It is what God's heart is towards the earth.

  323. Does it answer your question? Okay, ask again.

  324. No. So if he is kind, he will not destroy. He's paid the price to pull back. Now,

  325. we're not talking about God. We're talking about God's heart. He's paid the price to

  326. destroy our personal life. He's paid the price to destroy our personal life.

  327. So if he is kind, he will not destroy. He's paid the price to pull back. Now,

  328. the only way a person can destroy himself is by rejecting Christ. By rejecting life,

  329. you can destroy your life. But you cannot, God is not here to destroy. God is here to give

  330. life. I have come to give life and life more abundance. Satan comes to steal, kill, and

  331. destroy. Very clear demarcation. But having given you life, the only way, Jacob,

  332. that you can destroy yourself is if you reject that life.

  333. Even when the Bible says, because we interpret this wrong quite often, when it says,

  334. don't you know you are the temple of God and that if you destroy the temple, I'll destroy you. And

  335. so people would say to me that if you smoke, you're destroying the temple, so God will

  336. destroy you. I'm thinking to myself, shucks, don't want to die for a cigarette. And so

  337. the point was not that he will destroy us if you smoke or do something, but if you go around

  338. destroying the church, he will remove you from the equation. And we think death is destruction. And

  339. I want to say that death is not destruction. Death is removal. Death is as simple as me

  340. removing this red sketch pen from here and putting it inside the piano. That's what death is like.

  341. Just remind me of before Sheldon plays. Diana, you had a question?

  342. Diana, it's very hard to figure out what you're thinking with that mask on. I usually know what

  343. your question is going to be, when you're going to ask it, whether you're happy with the answer,

  344. whether you're unhappy with the answer, whether there's a follow-up question. I know all this.

  345. Now you've got the blooming mask on your face. Ask. Can anyone hear and understand? Oh, you do.

  346. Can you try again? No, not yet. Okay, go ahead, Diana. What a relief.

  347. I'll leave the second one alone, because it's

  348. a very important one.

  349. I think it's a very important one.

  350. I think it's a very important one.

  351. I think it's a very important one.

  352. I think it's a very important one.

  353. I think it's a very important one.

  354. I think it's a very important one.

  355. I think it's a very important one.

  356. I think it's a very important one.

  357. I think it's a very important one.

  358. I think it's a very important one.

  359. Because it's very long, and he does invite everybody, and then doesn't take away our free will.

  360. But the answer to the first question, how do you deal with children who are from backgrounds where they don't have Christ and face condemnation on a daily basis?

  361. If you are there, you are there to help them come out of their condemnation.

  362. If you have a child who you can teach to help themselves first and then help the other, you do not know the amount of money you're going to save their parents in just counseling.

  363. Guys, I cannot tell you how condemned kids are on a daily basis.

  364. If they are even slightly different in a good way from the rest of the world.

  365. You just have to be a little different.

  366. Culture condemns you, education condemns you, teachers condemn you, your friends condemn you, parents condemn you.

  367. It is a very, very difficult world.

  368. If you are there, you're supposed to lift them up.

  369. Don't teach your kid to be macho, to get to be strong, get to be, you've got to do this alone.

  370. All that is a bunch of, is crap a bad word?

  371. No, it's a bunch of crap.

  372. Teach your children how to cry.

  373. How to cry.

  374. Satan uses the curse of the law to condemn, to enslave, to torment, to destroy.

  375. Satan uses the curse of the law.

  376. He uses the power and the curse of the law.

  377. He uses the power of the law.

  378. God said, do not do this.

  379. Well, if you do this, now I can curse you because you've broken the law.

  380. He uses it to condemn, to enslave, to torment and to destroy.

  381. He used it in the Old Testament with Israel.

  382. He's still using it today with Christians.

  383. This is what God wants to put an end to.

  384. The damning legal debt that is imposed on me with a sentence, whenever I do wrong,

  385. gives these powers the right to deceive me, to torment me and to trespass into my life.

  386. And I don't realize that they have been terminated at the cross because divine justice was met and these powers were shamed.

  387. Every time you and I do wrong, my God, when are we going to escape this vicious cycle of going into that place

  388. where we feel now that now there's a legal debt owed and that there's a sentence that's going to be imposed.

  389. I've got to drive more carefully because I might have an accident.

  390. I've got to study more because I might fail my test.

  391. I've got to do this better because my child may be harmed.

  392. The way we think is so stupid, man.

  393. And it starts with a whisper in your ear and that whisper is coming either from your own background or from your family or from the devil.

  394. But it is this torment that begins to settle in.

  395. I just know that God is here to set us free from the condemnation we feel for the things done in the past and for the things we will do tomorrow.

  396. So Jacob, by saying this, aren't you afraid that people will begin to sin?

  397. Probably, but that doesn't take away from the truth of this.

  398. Just because you may choose to sin now that you won't feel condemned doesn't take away from the truth that you should not feel condemned.

  399. We cannot change truth to make you walk in truth.

  400. It's an old church trick.

  401. Don't tell them the truth because if you tell them the truth, they may begin to walk in the truth.

  402. So, Christ redeemed me from this cursed life.

  403. I love how the Passion Translation puts it in Galatians 3.13.

  404. Christ redeemed me from the cursed life by absorbing it completely into himself.

  405. Christ redeemed me from curse, from condemnation, from the sentence that could be imposed on me, from the legal debt that I would otherwise owe,

  406. from the freedom to trespass that I would give my tormentors, in this case the powers, all that he absorbed into himself.

  407. He absorbed into himself.

  408. He became a curse and at the same time dissolved the curse.

  409. He became a curse and dissolved the curse.

  410. He absorbed into himself everything that should have fallen on me like you owe a legal debt now.

  411. The powers can do what they want with you.

  412. There is a sentence that is upon you.

  413. You have to pay a price.

  414. These sicknesses can fall upon you.

  415. These gods of Egypt can harm you.

  416. All those things he becomes and he absorbs the curse.

  417. And in absorbing the curse, he dissolves it off me so that I don't have to live under the fear of it anymore.

  418. Thank you.

  419. No, that's not the right response.

  420. And Romans 6 deals with it.

  421. Romans 6 deals with it.

  422. Because there is this truth that we need to confront.

  423. That when grace increases, sometimes lawlessness increases and the heart of many grows cold.

  424. But it is not something Jesus is going to cancel because of my willfulness to exploit his kindness.

  425. Because I know God's grace is plenty, I can go lawless and my heart can grow cold.

  426. But he still won't change his ways.

  427. It only means that these things will kick in a little more.

  428. Admonition, rebuke, discipline will kick in more.

  429. I come from a place that does not doom to sentence, that does not rob me of dignity, that does not make me guilty, that doesn't do those things.

  430. God does not do them that way.

  431. Even when I discipline on behalf of God, I may convey it wrongly.

  432. But he does not.

  433. Jesus, the pharaoh told Bishopening.

  434. Today, when Goddt feels his light in him, he tells us he will break his bread祭eta over to him.

  435. Light remember the light.

  436. Read King James, like I did with the ball with Online History.

  437. Christ happened to me. You want to see what happened to you go read Isaiah 53

    Isaiah 53:4–6

  438. verse 4 to 6 and 10 to 12. What happened to him happened to me. I do not carry

  439. them anymore. If I am in Christ what happened to him happened to me. I must

  440. walk free. I must walk free. This is why in Colossians 2, 14 and 15 Jesus is

  441. saying listen your tormentors I disarmed. Your tormentors I dethroned. Your

  442. tormentors I paraded in chains. The very tree that I was hung on like in the

  443. movie Transformers transformed into a victorious chariot and in front of me

  444. now a paraded in chains. The very tormentors who used to demand a price of

  445. you, who used to threaten you, who frightened you, who condemned you, who

  446. brought guilt on you, who accused you, who brought whispers. I am saying to you

  447. Jacob that the tree which I hung transformed into a victorious chariot.

  448. I've dethroned them. I've disarmed them. I parade them in front of me as prisoners

  449. in chains so that you no longer for the rest of your life if you were to live

  450. another 40 years will ever walk as anyone else but the uncontemned. You know

  451. it robs the tormentor of power. It's like Velcro, condemnation. It causes the

  452. elemental spirits of the world. It causes tormentors. It causes accusers. It causes

  453. sin and it causes the demonic to be able to attach easily because you walk in

  454. condemnation. Condemned sometimes by you. Condemned sometimes by others. Condemned

  455. sometimes by your pastor. Condemned by your friends, your spouse. Condemned by

  456. what you think is God. One of the things I want to do before we end is write down

  457. accusations that you still carry in your heart. Write down condemnation that you

  458. feel and then come to a place where we end the torment in those areas.

  459. This is why in Romans 8.1 it says, Therefore, in view of all that we've

  460. just said, there remains, I love this, there remains no accusing voice of

  461. condemnation against those who have joined their lives to Jesus the

  462. Anointed One. Listen to it. Therefore, in view of everything we have said, there

  463. remains no longer an accusing voice of condemnation against those who are

  464. joined in life with Christ the Anointed One. I mean Captain America has a shield

  465. right? Use it man. Every time you begin to face condemnation, I can handle Captain

  466. America. Thor is a little too mythological for me but Captain America

  467. just got a wrong injection. Any questions? If God is justified who can condemn? If

  468. God has justified who can condemn? If God has justified who can condemn? Does the

  469. devil remind you, oh you went to this particular land I told you not to go and

  470. you did this and look what has happened and you haven't been able to free

  471. yourself for years? Oh remember what you did? You were married and you did this. Oh

  472. remember what you did? You were not married. You knew this was wrong and you

  473. did it. Remember what you did? You've been indulging in porn for this thing or

  474. think anything's gonna happen good for you? You think just because one or two

  475. things happen good, you think day after tomorrow you won't go back into your sin

  476. and it won't happen again? What do you think you're worth? You think Jacob

  477. doesn't know he'll find out one day God will tell him? That's on the extreme side.

  478. On the other side, what did your spouse say? What did your fiance say? What did

  479. we take these accusations and we let them stick when we are supposed to

  480. filter them through these three things? How farther must I judge it? Can I use

  481. the plumb line of the word to see if this is real? Is this who I am? May I say

  482. to you that we have a decent estimation of who we are and an accusation is

  483. always supposed to undermine the decent estimation of who I am.

  484. Paul never says become something. Paul always says become who you are.

  485. Paul is never saying I need you to become holy. He says you are holy so

  486. behave holy. Part of the reason the church cannot tell the world that they

  487. are not condemned is because the church feels condemned. How do you tell somebody

  488. else, no you're really not condemned but there's this loud voicing, of

  489. course you're condemned and he is more condemned than you.

  490. Guys, being a forgiven people is critically. The forgiven people are a

  491. people who are not condemned. Being a forgiven people is critical. Do you

  492. realize that the basics of Christianity, the basics of Christianity is that we

  493. are a forgiven people and do you realize that's a bigger struggle for all of us?

  494. We do not even believe that we are a forgiven people. That is like the lowest

  495. rung of Christianity. I'm a forgiven people and if I can't even stand there,

  496. I'm struggling with, I mean tomorrow will bring its own set of sins. I'm a

  497. I mean tomorrow will bring its own set of sins. I'm a forgiven people. What does

  498. forgiveness, why should you ask for forgiveness? What does forgiveness

  499. get you? What does forgiveness get you? I'm looking for a specific answer which

  500. you won't give because it's in my mind and so it'll be hard to guess. What does

  501. forgiveness get you? That which is in my mind. So let me tell you, so let me,

  502. smart answers with that mask on. So let me tell you what is in my mind.

  503. Forgiveness gets you God. Forgiveness gets you God. 1st Peter 318 says it that

  504. he might bring us to God. Forgiveness gets you God and therefore condemnation

  505. and unforgiveness separates you or keeps you distant enough from God.

  506. Forgiveness gets you God. Can you and I ever come to a position this week where

  507. we actually believe that I'm a forgiven people despite what I may do tomorrow

  508. or despite what I may have done an hour ago. Can we live there? I assure you if

  509. you begin to live there you will walk in greater righteousness than

  510. unrighteousness.

  511. This is why this is such a part of teleos. A mature complete people but it

  512. begins with these basics. I can't remember the last time I've consciously

  513. thought that I'm a forgiven people throughout the day. I know how to ask

  514. for forgiveness. I'm really good at it now but to walk in the sense of I'm a

  515. forgiven people. When I look at you do I think so? No. I'm looking straight at Diana

  516. and the answer is no. Oh don't even look at Mike. Are you feeling condemned brother?

  517. There's a difference between conviction and condemnation.

  518. So if you're a forgiven people it's such a relief not to be thinking it's four

  519. o'clock. Is that clock right or is it 2.15? Done. I just thought I'll try.

  520. A forgiven people are confident that there is no hostility or held back anger

  521. against them. What a cool place to live where you've just sinned but you're

  522. confident there is no hostility or held back anger against you. What a cool

  523. place to live. You really think you'll continue sinning? I doubt it. Kindness has

  524. a way of shifting your headspace man and your heart space. A forgiven people

  525. do not experience separation or thoughts of abandonment. They do not experience

  526. this even when they have gotten it wrong even then when they have sinned and

  527. really blown it even when they have they do not think like this. A forgiven people

  528. do not think in terms of fear, torment, punishment. A forgiven people don't think like this.

  529. A forgiven people don't think like this. They don't think fear, torment, punishment,

  530. affliction. Guys what's happened to us guys? How far we are from this? This is basics of Christianity.

  531. Do not, forgiven people do not experience separation or thoughts of abandonment. A

  532. forgiven people are confident that what I did is not remembered. A forgiven people are

  533. confident that what I did is not remembered. A forgiven people believe that there is immediate,

  534. forgiven people believe that there is immediate condition free intimacy when they turn to God.

  535. I used to struggle with this. I used to struggle with this. Can't be, can't be. After what I've

  536. done I cannot, it cannot be immediate. It can't be condition free. I've got to prove myself. Could

  537. you put Karen on probation for two months? Yeah she said because of this teaching no more probation

  538. and that she was she was condemning you to joblessness. But don't worry I got your back man.

  539. Forgiven people only know kind-hearted compassion and if necessary kind-hearted discipline. It

  540. changes the nature of God. Kind-hearted compassion and kind-hearted discipline.

  541. If I ever disciplined Phoebe it would be so kind-hearted. Why? Because I like her. She

  542. I can handle her for about 20 minutes. What when God is your father and he's so much better?

  543. A forgiven, last one, a forgiven people know boldness of entry into his presence. Boldness

  544. of entry into his presence. That's what forgiven people live like. Guys the world does not see a

  545. God who is good because Christians don't walk like this man. I mean we are supposed to be a

  546. relatively decent church that's learned enough, that's taught pretty well, that knows freedom

  547. and knows him as father and yet we are struggling with this. Any questions? Because I felt that

  548. it's one thing to talk about government and all that stuff and telly us but this is something

  549. so basic that we're not walking in. So how do I rule with my nature tethered to God when I don't

  550. have this one sorted out? That I'm uncontained and this is the one that I mean what did Jesus

  551. come to do? I came to restore people to myself and how do I restore them? By forgiving them so that

  552. they can walk as a forgiven people with me. If I don't get that right what can I get right?

  553. Can you live condemnation free this week? Can you try it? Can you try and live condemnation

  554. free this week? It doesn't mean that you won't get things wrong. It doesn't mean that you won't do

  555. wrong. It doesn't mean that you won't be sinful but it does mean that you can still be condemnation

  556. free by summarizing these points some way in your head and saying okay I'm gonna walk condemnation

  557. free this week. Can you walk condemnation free where accusations, sin and torment will not adhere

  558. to you because you no longer wear Velcro shirts? Guys remember there's something death delivering

  559. about condemnation. There's something death delivering about condemnation. Both when I deliver it and

  560. when I receive it. There's something death delivering over it. Romans 8 verse 2 says and

    Romans 8:2

  561. therefore the spirit of life in Christ has set me free from the spirit of the spirit of from the law

  562. of death. Therefore there is now no condemnation. There's something death delivering in condemnation.

  563. It destroys something in you but the spirit of life that is flowing in you that is flowing here

  564. today can liberate you from condemnation. So I want you to do this right now. I want you to write

  565. down accusations that are still alive in your heart, in your mind either from the long past or

  566. from the recent yesterday. Write down some accusations that come to mind. Write down the

  567. voice of what you're being condemned with. Don't get too forensic or too analytical about it. Just

  568. write down as it comes and then after you do that write down the torment it is bringing with it.

  569. What is the torment? What is the fear?