Sermon
Day of the Sons 2
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Transcript
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Does Jane know you're behind the board?
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Okay.
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Alright, guys, so today we talk about Day of the Sun's Part 2.
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We did this yesterday, we started yesterday, so you'll have to go and listen to yesterday's first part,
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if you want to have a background on the second part.
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So, even though it's Father's Day, the title of the teaching is Day of the Sun's Part 2.
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And yesterday we looked at Psalm 45, 16 and 17.
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Sheldon, I hope you're making notes.
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Okay.
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Psalm 45, verse 16 and 17.
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This is commitment, huh?
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You get six months free probation.
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Psalm 45, verse 16 and 17, it says,
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Your sons will take the place of your fathers, you will make them princes throughout the land.
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I will perpetuate your memory through all generations, therefore the nations will praise you forever and ever.
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So, the reason we are talking about this on Father's Day is because any father has a desire to see his son perpetuate his name.
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That is the intent.
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Every father has a desire to see his name perpetuated by his son.
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And so every father has a desire that the sons will take the place of their fathers.
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And that they will rule as regents in the land that the father has.
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And this was the intent that the father had in Genesis where he looked at Adam and said, Adam, you're my son.
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He used to call Adam the son of God.
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Luke 3.38 talks about it.
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And then he says that, listen, Adam, you're my son and I want you to be my regent, as in the one who rules on my behalf.
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I want you to perpetuate my name and that is why I made you after my image and likeness so that you take on my kind.
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I trust you.
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That was the intent.
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And so on Father's Day to speak of the Day of the Sons is just perfect because that's what fathers actually desire.
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And when revival awakens any people, God becomes visibly available as father.
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God becomes visibly available as father.
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That's one of the things that becomes evident in any genuine revival.
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God becomes visibly available as a father.
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And he becomes visibly available as a father with his heart, with his nature, with his function, with his approach, with his motivation.
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That becomes most evident.
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The unfortunate thing is though that Satan also functions the same way.
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Jesus called him the father of lies.
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The unfortunate thing is that Satan functions the same way and in Ephesians 2 we see that he is raising children of disobedience who follow the father of lies.
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So fatherhood is not limited to the kingdom.
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Everything in the satanic kingdom, everything in the non-Christ kingdom is a counterfeit of what has been started by the father.
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There's nothing creative that the devil can do.
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He has never invented a single thing.
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He only counterfeits what is good.
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He takes power and makes it domination.
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He takes sex and he makes it lust.
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He takes money and it makes it greed.
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He takes wisdom and makes it earthly knowledge.
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So he can only distort what God has created.
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Because he was aware of who God was, because he has seen God in real before he gets cast out of heaven, the thing is Satan also practices fatherhood.
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Only his fatherhood is fathering orphans and keeping them as orphans while God is a father who receives orphans and changes them into sons and daughters.
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So there is this raising of the children of disobedience who follow the father of lies.
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So when we talk about fatherhood, there are two fathers trying to perpetuate who they are through their sons.
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Only we have a good father who perpetuates his son through us.
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And then there is a father of lies who keeps them as orphans who perpetuates his character.
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So what we're going to talk about today is, okay,
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So now that God is saying, I want my sons to take the place of their fathers, what does it look like for you and I?
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We're not going to look at ourselves as, oh, we are sons.
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We're going to look at, on Father's Day, what would it be if we began to behave like the father?
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On Father's Day, what would it look like if you and I began to behave like fathers?
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And the term fathers and the term sons, just for our knowledge, is gender free.
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It is not limited to male or female.
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So when I say the word father, don't think, ah shucks, I'm a female.
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No, when I say the word sons, don't think, ah shucks, I'm not a guy.
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It's genderless.
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So if we began to think of, okay, so the Father in Heaven, just like he did with Jesus,
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wants us to step into this place where we become fathers to the world, to people, to our family, to the church family,
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so that we can convey what we need to, well then, what does it look like?
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The first thing is, as a father, as a father, your main assignment, as a father is to be a father.
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As a father, your main assignment, as a father, your main assignment is to make, you're good man, thanks so much,
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is to make fathers out of your sons.
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That is so cool, man.
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As a father, your main assignment is to make fathers out of your sons.
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As in, can you make the ones that are in your charge become like him?
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That is your main assignment.
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Our assignment is not to recruit more sons.
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Our assignment is, can I now do what Psalm 45, verse 16 and 17 says, so that you begin to look more like him?
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Our main assignment is to make fathers out of sons.
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Second, as a father, as a father, your children must experience the heavenly father, must experience the heavenly father.
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Father, you can always relax between writings, like just chill out.
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No, not that chill out.
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Give a foot to take a yard nowadays.
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So, as a father, you must experience, as a father, one of your heart's desire is, my children must experience the heavenly father.
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My children must not know or study, but must experience the heavenly father.
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These must be so concrete in your heart, guys.
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The thing is, there's nobody here who cannot operate in this role.
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This must be something you desire, because this is what the father wanted to perpetuate on earth.
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That is why he says, listen, I want you to be conformed to the stature of my son, Jesus Christ, Ephesians 4, 17.
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I want you to be like that. Why? So that then you can go and do what my son did.
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Any questions on that? Any thoughts as in, maybe this isn't really the main thing? It is.
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Any questions?
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Any questions?
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Are you just flexing your arm, not raising your arm?
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Your children must experience the heavenly father. As a father.
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It is to make fathers out of sons.
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It's very difficult when you have to start talking to your digital board. It feels very weird.
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Any questions, guys?
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Yep.
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How we can aid that, yeah. One of the ways we aid, okay, Evan's question is, how do we go about it?
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How do we go about making fathers out of our sons? How do we go about having our children experience the heavenly father?
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Let me first define sons and children. Anyone who is placed in your charge by God is.
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And it doesn't, it's not age relevant. Anyone.
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And so, you then have to, yeah, we'll talk about it. Further down we'll talk about it. Yeah.
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Guys, the thing is, as a father, the capacity to birth and nurture is inherently present in you.
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The capacity to birth and nurture is inherently present in you.
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Jacob, how can you say that? Guys, we've got to go back to the book of Genesis, chapter one.
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What did he say there? What was his primary intent? Here's what I want you to do.
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I want you to go forth. I want you to multiply. I want you to multiply. I want you to go forth.
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I want you to replenish the earth and I want you to subdue. What was his intent for man right off the bat?
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Listen, I made you like me. I want you to go and fill the earth with more like-me's.
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It is inherent in human beings to multiply after his kind and then it gets shattered.
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And another father comes in and he begins to multiply after his kind.
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And then comes Jesus and he gets it back, redeems it, restores it and says, alright, plan A is still functioning.
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There is no plan B. Go now and do exactly what I told Adam to do that he messed up. You can start doing it again.
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What is the first step in doing it? Become like my son because my son is like me.
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So we have a visible image of the invisible father and we become like him.
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As we become like him, it is natural, it is inherent in you to begin to help others become what you have now become.
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It is inherent in you. Hey, you can read all the parenting books you want to and then you have that baby and those books are useless.
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You can use them when you run out of Pampers.
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That's the only use because your child is like no other child.
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And then you begin to find out that inherent in you is this ability to take care of the child.
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That you will not sleep, that you will spend crazy money, that you will think crying is music.
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All kinds of things happen and suddenly you realize that inherent in you is the ability to birth and nurture.
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And it must be after, the only catch is it must be after his kind.
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And the world around you will do everything in its power to help the church raise up the children.
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To help the church raise up the children of God after the world's kind.
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All the education, all the entertainment, everything is geared towards one end.
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Can the people in the church raise their children not after his kind but after the world's kind?
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How do they do it? They do it just like Nebuchadnezzar do it.
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Name your child a different name.
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Give your child the deities that King Nebuchadnezzar said before.
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Thousands of young men and only three stood up.
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The rest of them went for it.
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It is inherent in you.
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But this desire must first grow, right?
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This desire must first grow.
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Hey guys, my mum is 81.
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I do my best to father her.
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That sounds like such a weird statement.
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But I'll do everything in my power to help her experience the father.
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I'll do everything in my power to try and interact with her like the father interacts with me and expects me to interact with her.
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At some point in her life she acknowledged that her son could be someone who could help her and tell her what to do.
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And immediately the role changed.
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Whenever I feel snappish, whenever I feel irritated, whenever I want to shout at her for something she's doing that doesn't fit my fancy,
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could be right but I still don't like it, I'll have to go back into this place that doesn't fit my fancy.
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I'll have to go back into this place that, Jacob, yes you are a son but you need to know how to spiritually father even your mother.
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We don't realize how much God desires this for us and through us into other people's lives.
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Any questions?
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Not everybody has a spiritual father that they can model themselves as.
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You mentioned that.
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We are still trying to see if Martin Luther's Reformation 500 years ago is working properly or not and we still haven't gotten there.
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We still are struggling with the just shall live by faith.
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But a hundred years from now what if there's a sufficient groundswell?
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How do you father somebody who has more?
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Because the authority part can come if it comes and when it comes.
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It is a heart that I'm trying to convey so that they can experience the Heavenly Father.
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It's a heart that they can experience the Heavenly Father.
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And it's a heart that they are able to experience the Heavenly Father.
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And it's a heart that they are able to experience the Heavenly Father.
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It is a heart that they can experience the Heavenly Father.
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It is a heart that I must convey.
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My mum has more authority over me because she is my mum.
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She has the right to bless me or curse me.
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Thank God she only blesses me.
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But can I convey what the father wants to her? Absolutely.
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When she is at my place then the authority structures shift.
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But when I'm at her place she is an authority over me.
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There are certain things that she always will have over me because I'm her son.
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So unfortunately because either we got it wrong, taught it wrong, behaved wrong, abused it.
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We think of being fathers in terms of authority.
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And God thinks of it as can you convey the attributes of my life?
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Can you convey what you guys talked about on Saturday?
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The authority part is the easy part.
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Hey Mark, take your mask off. Hey Mark, put your mask on.
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That's the authority part.
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It's the other part that is difficult.
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That is why the authority part is the easiest to choose.
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As a father you must see the value in an individual's destiny and you must also see God's corporate purpose.
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As a father you must see the value of a person's individual destiny.
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As in, okay, so what is the value of a person's individual destiny?
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As a father you must see the value of a person's individual destiny.
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As in, okay, so what is it, oh God, that you have for Rachel?
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What do you, oh God, have for Leah?
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And that's one part of it, an individual destiny.
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And then you take the entire family and say what is their common purpose?
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Because these individual destinies fit into the larger common purpose and it's the same way in the church.
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Suddenly everyone has a full-time job.
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Jacob, this is only for certain people, not for me.
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It is for anyone who belongs to the father.
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Because this is what the father is about.
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The father is continuously thinking like this.
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As a father, discipling and discipline is critical and it has fathering written into the DNA.
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As a father, and this is a tough one, because this is when we decide not to do anything,
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but we have to do something, we have to do something.
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We have to do something.
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And as a father, you have to have discipline and discipline.
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Discipline is part of the fathering DNA.
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Discipline is part of the fathering DNA.
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Jesus talks about it as a father.
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He talks about it as a father.
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Jesus talks about it in Hebrews chapter 12 and this is so critical.
Hebrews 12 chapter mention
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If you leave this out, you will raise children who cannot be fruitful.
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Leave this out and you will raise children, yes, they will grow up but they will not be fruitful.
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There is no fruitfulness in life without instruction, correction, discipline.
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And it is that the progression is instruction, correction, discipline.
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Some children, you instruct them, they learn.
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Some children don't learn through instruction so you go from instruction to correction.
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And some children don't learn through correction then you go from instruction to discipline.
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And God follows that pathway, He invented it.
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What does He do first with Cain?
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He knows where Cain is heading.
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What does He go and tell Cain?
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What does He go and tell Cain?
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Hey Cain, be careful, sin crouches at your door and is wanting to master you.
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Instruction, correction, discipline and why, why?
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For two reasons, one, so that I be fruitful.
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So fathers that avoid discipling and discipline through instruction, correction and discipline
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are fathers who will have sons that are grown up but you are doing them a disservice
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because they will never be fruitful.
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I don't know anything about gardening but I believe if you don't prune, they don't prune.
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They don't produce prunes.
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Yeah.
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What does a prune look like?
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No, don't point towards me.
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Oh, a plum is a prune?
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A dry plum is a prune.
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My God, I'm learning things today.
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The same thing is all these things I mentioned, Jesus walked this relationship with His father
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and He walked out of the, and He worked out this relationship with His disciples.
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Jesus walked this relationship with His father.
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We think Jesus didn't have any discipling, disciplining instruction.
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Of course He did.
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Hebrews 5 talks about it.
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That He learned obedience through suffering.
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He had to be instructed.
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He wasn't a kid who knew everything, downloaded it.
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He wasn't a robot.
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He wasn't like this digital board.
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He learned things.
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So Jesus walked in this relationship with His father and then worked out this relationship with disciples
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as must you.
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We learn from the Father.
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We then work it out with the people that we are placed with.
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What a cool thing, man.
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Everyone here has a full-time job.
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And once you take on this full-time job, you won't want too much because it's a,
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ask any parent here and they'll tell you how painful and long it is.
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They don't leave your home till they are, I left home when I was 28.
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Pardon?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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But the intent is that the sons begin to perpetuate who the Father is.
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Here's a cool thing about pastoring versus fathering.
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And I'm not talking about me.
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I'm talking about us thinking of, oh, my job is to pastor others or to shepherd others.
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Guys, fathering only produces remnants.
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Pastoring can produce large churches.
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Fathering produces remnants.
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As in, the strange thing with God is, God always starts with a small group of quality disciples.
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Or lacking quality.
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But he starts with a small group.
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Remnants represent what God wants everybody to be.
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Remnants represent what God wants everybody to be.
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Remnants represent what God wants everybody to be.
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God puts something into remnants and then he wants to release it to everyone at some stage
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when the remnant has modeled it properly.
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Now that he has a prototype, he'll say, aha, now we can go.
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That's what he did with Adam and Eve.
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Listen, I'll start with you.
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I'll walk with you.
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I'll teach you.
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I'll come every evening.
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You will spend time with me.
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I'll tell you things.
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And that began the process.
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Then he goes to Jacob and his family, twelve.
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He says, I want to start a nation through you.
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And the twelve become seventy and the seventy become a million.
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He always starts with a remnant.
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Fathering produces remnant.
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Because you can only handle so many at a time, guys.
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This is why a church that is dependent on one person will collapse.
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This is why it is critical that fathers perpetuate themselves in their sons
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who now step into the place of their fathers and it begins to spread.
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This is why what may have been my initial responsibility is no longer my responsibility.
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It is yours and you now perpetuate it.
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And you now perpetuate it.
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God warns everybody but he never starts with everybody.
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I'm telling you stuff that's in the Bible.
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God warns everybody but he never starts with everybody.
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He starts with a remnant.
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He started with the twelve.
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Look what's happened, man.
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God warns everybody but he never starts with everybody.
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And so if you isolate yourself, you miss out on what the father does.
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One of the things the father enjoys doing is he enjoys increasing your capacity.
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He increases my capacity.
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He increases your capacity.
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So when you start behaving like the father with others,
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you must aim not at giving them what you have,
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but you must aim at increasing their capacity
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because they are going to have to handle much more than you are handling.
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So the way I would put it is,
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as a father, you must increase the capacity to handle inheritance.
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You must increase a person's capacity to handle their inheritance.
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Just imagine if Elijah hadn't done that for Elisha.
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All these noises are coming from the digital board.
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We need to fix that transformer in the back.
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Someone who doesn't know any of this will suddenly believe it
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because they actually see these fingers.
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Put those fingers down.
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People will think you are real.
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I'm just kidding, Sheldon.
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I owe you one after this.
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This is actually fun.
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By the way, if anyone wants to volunteer for next Sunday, just let me know.
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Any takers?
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No, Sheldon, I think they like you.
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Is this a self-erasing thingy?
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No?
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Sorry, we shouldn't get carried away with this.
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There are more important things happening up front.
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As a father, you must increase a person's capacity for inheritance.
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What if Elijah hadn't treated Elisha well?
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How would he have handled twice of everything?
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He asked for a double portion.
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Elijah was doubtful whether the guy could handle it.
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He said, it's not mine to give.
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If God thinks so, he'll give it to you.
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The only way you'll know that God thinks so is if you see me being taken away.
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He had prepared that guy out of the 52 prophets that followed Elijah that day,
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from Jericho to Gilgal to Bethel to the Jordan.
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There was only one man who kept following, kept following, kept following
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because in him was a capacity to now receive everything that Elijah had.
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Only he went and asked not for what Elijah had.
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He said, I want twice what you have.
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Elijah is doubtful whether the guy has it.
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What if you and I began to run in a way where the intent is I will increase your capacity
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so that when your turn comes, you will be ready to handle your inheritance?
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Because your inheritance will not be what I have.
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It will be what I have plus whatever God gives you.
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Sometimes the only way to increase capacity is to stretch people and put them in danger.
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Not real danger, what they think is danger.
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I remember the first time my dad allowed me to step out of the train,
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onto the platform and brush my teeth with him because in India you can do that.
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It's a long story, but basically what you can do is you can step out of the platform
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and you can start brushing your teeth while the train is parked at the platform
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and then my mom was really scared of what will happen next
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because my dad's intent was when this train starts moving,
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I will help you jump into the train and it will be like this rite of passage.
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I'm all tensed, I've brushed my teeth, I've put the toothbrush in my pocket and I'm waiting
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because this is the moment when you become a man.
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Then finally you hear the go, because there were steam engines those days,
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you don't know what that is.
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That was him again.
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Then what happens is the train starts moving and my dad had,
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and I'm like adrenaline rushing through me because if you don't get in then the train is gone
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and then you start singing, if you miss the train I'm on, you will know that I am gone.
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No, so there's this tension building up and suddenly my dad will come and say,
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and then the train would be moving and you would grab both the things
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and you would step into it and you would feel like you were a man.
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All the danger, all the tension was in here, but in my dad's eyes it was,
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no son, don't worry, I got your back.
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And he would make sure that as I stepped in he was right there,
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there was no way I could fall.
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And my mom would be screaming, saying what's wrong with you?
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And then spit out of the window.
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Thank God my mom doesn't follow me on live stream.
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So you can only stretch a person's capacity for inheritance by putting them in a place
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where they are actually stretched and that is another part of fatherhood.
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So I'm going to go back to the train and I'm going to go back to the train.
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I'm going to go back to the train and I'm going to go back to the train.
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And that is another part of fathering that most people will not attempt
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because the reaction or the response back is not pleasant.
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And if it's not pleasant, try it again later.
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Any questions?
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Because if I don't and if you don't increase a person's capacity for inheritance,
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they will only know how to handle what you handle now.
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But the years ahead are far greater. It will break them.
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Guys, it broke Solomon. It broke Solomon.
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David gave him everything.
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He prepared the nuts and the bolts and the timber
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and he got everything ready for the building of the temple.
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But what he forgot was to build his son.
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His son got everything that David had.
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He had the ability to handle what the father gave him.
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He did not have the ability to handle what the father gave him.
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He did not have the ability to handle what was awaiting him later after his father had died.
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And it broke that man because he could not handle his inheritance.
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Jesus prepared inheritors.
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Jesus prepared inheritors.
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We call them disciples. We call them apostles.
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Jesus prepared inheritors who could invest what he gave them
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and then produce such a momentum after he left that a greater harvest happened.
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Jesus prepared inheritors.
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This is why you hear stuff like,
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Master, but we have only two fish and two loaves and five fish.
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What do we do? I don't know. You feed them.
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Five thousand people. You feed them.
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Different situations he puts them in.
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I want you to go and when you go there,
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there will be a donkey tied outside a man's house
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and if the man comes and asks you why you are taking the donkey,
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just tell him that the master has need for them.
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And he sends them off.
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Then he decides, okay, let's send you out two by two
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to preach, to heal, to cleanse lepers, to raise the dead, to heal the sick.
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Go. He doesn't go with them.
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But they come back and they come back rejoicing,
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saying demons left when we spoke.
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You can't imagine the joy that Jesus would have felt
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because the same joy that the father had over Jesus when he said,
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this is my son who is precious in my sight, beloved in my sight.
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Listen to him. The same Jesus is now saying,
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heaven was rejoicing and Satan fell like lightning.
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But do not be caught up that you cast out demons,
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but your names are written in the book of life.
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And he is thrilled at his disciples,
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knowing that one of them will betray him
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and that all of them will run away. But he is thrilled.
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Because he formed inheritors.
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The process of formation may be scary,
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but the intent is, can I create inheritors?
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Because I'm going to leave soon.
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When I leave soon, I'm speaking about Jesus now, not me.
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Because Derek and Don may come back saying,
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okay, I want to be the next pastor.
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So Derek, Don, stay there.
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The thing is, Jesus prepared inheritors who could invest what he gave them
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to produce a momentum that would end up in a greater harvest.
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So much so that Jesus goes as far as to say in John 14-12,
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that listen, you guys need to know that you will do greater work than I have done
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because I'm going to the Father.
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Sorry? Jesus prepared inheritors who could invest what he gave them
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to produce a momentum that would end up in a greater harvest.
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Jesus prepared inheritors who could invest what he gave them
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to produce a momentum that would result in a greater harvest
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than he himself accomplished.
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We're talking about the Son of God.
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Nutsy.
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And when you work as fathers, know that each of you will have different traits
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that nobody else can give to someone in your charge than you.
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Some of you will be wealth creators.
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Anything you touch turns to gold.
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The ones that God places in your lives will inherit that and more.
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Some of you will know how to war spiritually.
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Why? Because the one that you were raised under knows how to war spiritually.
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Some of you will have the ability to plumb the wisdom of God.
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And so you end up being some of the wisest people who live on earth.
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Like the tribes of Jacob, you find that each tribe has a trait,
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and that trait is strongly expressed in the clan for the rest of eternity.
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Judah, praise, forefront, warrior.
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Benjamin, ravenous wolf.
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Naftali, brimming with wealth.
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Joseph, fruitful bow that spreads over fences and walls.
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And Jesus said you will do greater works than this.
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It was not Jesus saying, okay, I'm going to do this.
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Jesus said you will do greater works than this.
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It was not Jesus saying, okay, so I'm gone now, you can continue.
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You know what he was saying?
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You'll do greater works than this because I'm going to the Father who is greater than me,
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and I'll continue to do these works through you.
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But I put enough on you to cause this momentum to really bring in a great harvest.
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Guys, if we do this, in a couple of generations, we can actually affect nations.
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And it sounds like such a hollow claim, Jacob.
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You can just say it because you won't be here in a couple of generations.
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You'll probably be dead in the next 50 years.
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The thing is, you've got to look into February 2005, 2006.
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Who would have ever thought that this motley crew would be where we are today?
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Who would have ever thought?
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Who would have ever thought that we'd have an influence in nations?
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Not me.
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Even though I dreamt of it, never thought it would be possible,
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which is why I read out Philippians 1, 3 to 6.
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I thank God every day for each of you.
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I don't thank God every day for each of you.
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That's Paul's words.
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What I mean is I'm super thankful.
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Yeah.
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Because this itself is impossible.
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Let's look at John 14.
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Look at a few verses and then we'll end.
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John 14.
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Sheldon, you're doing okay?
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You want a replacement?
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You're okay, huh?
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John 14.
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I'm sorry.
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Philipp said, Master, I'm reading from the message at times.
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Philipp said, Master, show us the Father, then we'll be content.
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So here's my question to you guys.
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What if someone said to you, what if someone came and said to you,
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hey Diana, show me the Father and I'll be content?
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What if someone said to you, Manoj, show me the Father and I'll be content?
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What would your reply be?
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I just hope that one day we'll be able to reply like this.
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I can't reply like this, but I long for it.
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I was reading it and I was thinking to myself, my God, Father, please, please, please.
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One day, not in the distant future where my feet are in the grave while I'm going up.
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Can I do it in the next little while where if someone comes and says to me,
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hey Jacob, show us the Father and then we'll be content?
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And my reply would be, believe me, I'm in the Father and the Father is in me.
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This is not a pipe dream, I really want this to happen for us.
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Believe me, I'm in the Father and the Father is in me.
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That's not borrowing a Jesus statement, that is the truth.
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If you read John 17 verse 21, if you read Colossians 1, 27, it says the Father is in
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me and I'm in the Father.
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It already says that.
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I'm not plagiarizing a Jesus phrase.
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I'm telling you what is actually true.
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Colossians 1, 27, the hope of glory Christ in me and John 17, 21, Father, just as I'm
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in you and you are in me, can they also be in me so that they are in you?
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This is the true statement.
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What if one day this idea of perpetuating the Father and reflecting him through us gets
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to a point where we can say that believe me, I'm in the Father and the Father is in me.
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And then Philip asks the question and Jesus goes further, what if you could say this?
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Just imagine this, this is mind blowing.
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Would you be able to say, to see me is to see the Father.
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If you really knew me, you would know the Father as well.
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To see me is to see the Father.
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If you really knew me, you would know the Father as well.
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It's preposterous to even think of this but absolutely possible.
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Any questions, any comments?
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Any?
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The problem with masks is I don't know whether you're disbelieving, incredulous, happy, believing.
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We should have these kind of messages out there so you don't have to wear masks.
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Any questions?
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Would I be able to say, to see me is to see the Father.
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If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well.
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So how can you ask, where is the Father?
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What a ridiculous statement to make as humans.
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But what if there are areas in your life where you can do this?
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John 12, 44, 45.
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John 12, 44, 45.
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Then Jesus cried out,
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When a man believes in Me, he does not believe in Me only,
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but in the one who sent Me.
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When he looks at Me, he sees the one who sent Me.
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My God, man, when he looks at Me, he sees the one who sent Me.
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When a man believes in Me, he does not just believe in Me,
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but he believes in the one who sent Me.
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When he looks at Me, he does not just see Me, he sees the one who sent Me.
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Come on man.
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Please don't put this in the, please don't, this disease called futurism postpones every
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statement like this into the future saying one day.
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No.
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Today is the day of the suns.
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Not one day.
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You're okay, Sheldon?
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Do you want to take a break?
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Not one day.
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I want this.
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I want this.
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Not just for me because it's pointless when one person does it.
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When people do it.
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There was something about the early church which had all kinds of problems, all kinds
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of sins.
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There was something about them that was distinctive in that two things happened to them.
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One people joined them by the thousands, two people persecuted them.
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There was something distinctive about them.
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It was that they were different from the normal.
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Jesus was evident.
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One more statement and we can close.
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John 14 verse 10.
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Am I good on batteries?
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John 14 10.
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The first part was about character, now we move to verse 10.
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And verse 10 says, don't you believe that I am in the Father and that the Father is
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in me?
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The words I say to you are not just my own, rather it's the Father living in me who is
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doing this work.
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Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me.
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Or at least believe on the evidence of these miracles themselves.
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So here's the other catch now.
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If we say that this is the one we are perpetuating, the Father, then here's what is being said.
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Surely you believe that I am the Father and the Father is in me.
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And this is true.
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1 Corinthians 6, 17 says, we become one with the Spirit of God.
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Romans 8, 15 and 16 says, he has given us his Spirit that allows us to cry out Father
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and that the Father lives in us and we have become one with him.
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So here's the question then.
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Can people believe that the Father is in me and I in the Father because they see the works
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that I do?
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And the answer is at present, no.
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What works are we talking about?
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We're not talking about soup and sandwich.
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We're talking about signs, miracles and wonders.
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And so the question is, so this is a statement I'm making.
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If people can't believe that the Father and you are one, can they believe what they see?
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Can they believe by the works you do?
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Go to John chapter 10, verse 37 and 38.
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I'm just showing us where we horribly fall short right now.
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John chapter 10, verse 37 and 38.
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Look at the statement Jesus is making.
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It's like almost a provocative, challenging statement.
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Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does.
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Do not believe me, he's saying.
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Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does.
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But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles that you may know
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and understand that the Father is in me and I in the Father.
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Guys, one of the evidences of the Father in you and you in the Father is that there should
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be works and we don't have it.
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But we can't do nothing about it.
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Hexed begin to take a couple of steps that Jesus mentions here so that he can begin this
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process.
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But he literally says, you don't need to believe in me if I don't do any works.
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Any questions, any thoughts?
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Jesus has gone to the Father.
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He's given me the same work to do that he has been doing.
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Let me say that slowly, just pay attention to another five minutes, we should be done.
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Jesus has gone to the Father.
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He has given me the work that he was doing to finish.
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Please understand that.
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That he has given us the work that he could have finished.
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He could have finished everything in three and a half years, but he decided not to.
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He has left work for us to do.
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This is your main work.
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Jesus has gone to the Father.
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He has given me the same work to do that he had been doing.
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And in chapter 14, verse 12, he tells me the two things that I require to be able to do
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the same things.
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Chapter 14, verse 12.
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I tell you the truth.
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I know this sounds terribly simple, but what can we do?
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Jesus is simple.
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I tell you the truth.
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Anyone who has faith in me will do what I've been doing.
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I'm not taking anything out of context.
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It's one of the few messages I'm actually staying in context.
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I tell you the truth.
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Anyone who has faith in me will do what I'm doing.
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You can have the assurance, Jacob, that if you trust in me, you will end up doing not
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only what Jesus was doing, you will do even greater things.
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Keep reading.
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I tell you the truth.
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Anyone who has faith in me will do what I've been doing.
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He will do even greater things than these because I'm going to the Father.
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So that's the first point.
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If you trust him, you can do the same things.
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He says, don't tell people to believe you if you can't do the works the Father is doing.
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These are not categorical blanket statements because he says, believe my words.
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Then he says, if they don't believe your words, tell them to believe my works.
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If you don't do the works my Father does, then don't ask them to believe you.
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So what else do we need to do?
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The second thing he says is, listen, ask anything in my name.
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Look at verse 13.
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I will do whatever you ask in my name so that the Son may bring glory to the Father.
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So how does that work?
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That's the last point.
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You are invited to come to the Father in the name of Jesus with the promise of enjoying
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the same access to God that Jesus enjoys.
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Let me say that again.
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I have an invitation, a standing invitation for the rest of eternity to come to the Father
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in the name of Jesus Christ with the promise of enjoying the same access that Jesus presently
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has with God.
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This is so ridiculous that it's hard to believe.
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Let me say that one last time.
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I am invited and I have a standing invitation to come to the Father in the name of Jesus
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And then he goes on to say that listen, ask anything in my name.
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And so let me just write this down.
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What it means when he says ask anything in my name.
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Ask as if I am in the Father's presence.
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When he says ask anything in my name.
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Ask as if I were asking.
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As in Jesus is saying, ask as if I were asking.
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And the second statement he's trying to make in that statement is ask what I would ask.
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Two things.
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Ask as if I were asking.
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And Jesus never asked anything without faith or trust in his Father.
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And ask as if I would ask.
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This is why Saturday's teaching, yesterday night's teaching is so critical.
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If you can understand those characteristics of God, it will be very hard to ask a miss.
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Ask as if I were asking, Jesus is saying.
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Hey Jacob, ask as if I were asking.
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Ask what I would ask.
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From now on, whatever you request along the lines of who I am and what I'm doing.
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Whatever you ask along the lines of who I am and what I'm doing.
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Who I am and what I'm doing.
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I'll do it for you.
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I'll do it for you.
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These are the three things that are difficult to fathom.
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But these are the three things we're going to spend a lot of time trying to figure out.
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So that we can be what God wants us to be.
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We can show them the Father.
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Any questions?
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Let me sum that up.
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To ask, that clock is wrong, right?
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It's showing 8 o'clock.
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What a comfort it was all this time.
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John 14 13.
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And I will do whatever you ask in my name so that the Son may bring glory to the Father.
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You may ask me for anything in my name and I will do it.
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The Greek says the same thing.
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I will do whatever you ask in my name so that the Son may bring glory to the Father.
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You may ask me for anything in my name and I will do it.
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What is he saying?
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Hey Jacob, ask as if I were asking.
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Jacob, ask what I would ask.
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Jacob, ask based on who I am.
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Jacob, ask what I am doing.
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And if you do this, and if you ask with faith, I guarantee you I will do whatever you ask.
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Then you can say to people, ah you don't believe my words.
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Believe my works.
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Jesus did this with the Pharisees when they crowded around the man who he forgave.
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He said, oh so you think that the Son of Man does not have the right to forgive sins?
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I do.
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But just so you know that this is just not talk, I say to you, pick up your bed and walk.
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And he walked.
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Words?
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They didn't believe it.
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Works?
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What could they do?
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Once you show people works, there's only three options.
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Believe.
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Stone you.
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Or walk away.
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Those are the only three options.
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Any questions?
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Because I'm done.
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Any questions guys?
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Please ask questions.
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This sounds terribly simple, but what can you do?
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You've got to press in, eh?
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And suddenly it will break forth, guys.
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Suddenly it will break forth.
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Suddenly it will break forth.
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These are precious things.
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Once they start happening, if you don't have the character of God, if you don't have the
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ability to inherit this, it will ruin this church, destroy this church.
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So don't think that he's not at work.
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He's at work changing our character, making us absolutely unbothered about how we look.
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How people perceive.
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He's just bringing us to a place where when this begins to break, it will not affect your
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head.
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It will not go to my head.
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Any questions?
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Okay.
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It's 3.46.
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One of the things I do is sometimes I go to the book of John and I take what Jesus is
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saying about the Father.
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Hey, can I have a little more volume?
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I take what Jesus is saying about the Father.
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Hey, can I have a little more volume?
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I take what I'm doing with the Father, what Jesus is saying to the Father, and then I
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write it in my own words as if I was saying it to the Father.
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It really helps because it puts you in a place where Jesus, the perfect son, was and it puts
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you in a connection, in relationship with the Father.
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So I'm just reading an excerpt and then we'll put some of it on the board and just commit
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to the Father with regard to this.
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So this was something I'd written.
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Father, shine a light on your splendor in me.
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Father, shine a light on your glory or your splendor in me.
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As in, each of us has a glory that God has now given us as born again believers.
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Shine your light on the splendor, on your splendor in me.
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I will spell out your character in detail to the men and women that you give me.
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These are things that Jesus said in John, part of it from the NIV, part of it from the
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message.
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I will spell out your character in detail to the men and women that you give me.
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Any of us can adopt this and put it for ourselves.
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Next one.
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Lord, put my life on display for them.
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Everything I give them must be first hand from you.
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Empower me by your Spirit to teach them your word.
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I want to glorify you on earth by completing down to the last detail what you assigned me to do.
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I joyfully come to consecrate myself for the mission you have given me and for those that you have placed in my care.
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Everything mine is yours and everything yours, O God, is mine.
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It's a very hard sentence, eh?
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It's not easy.
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Everything mine is yours and everything yours is mine.
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Not easy.
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Father, you are in me and I in you.
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You love me the same way you love your son.
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As I mature, you will give the godless world evidence of your presence and oneness in me.
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You knew me and loved me long before I was formed.
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Righteous father, the world hasn't known you, but I have known you.
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I so want to make your very being known to them, who you are and how you do, so that your life and love towards me might become something they experience.
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All this is from John 17.
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Everything I do and say must be a unique father-son operation, coming out of father and son intimacies and knowledge.
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No one knows me the way you do, Father, and I want to know you, Father, the way Jesus does.
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And I will not keep it to myself.
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I'm ready to go over it line by line with anyone willing to listen, walk, work and learn.
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Matthew 11, 26.
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I can't independently do a thing.
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I can only do what I see you doing, Father.
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What you do, I will do also.
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Father, you love me, your son, and you include me in everything you're doing around me.
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And I haven't seen the half of it yet.
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I align myself with you, Father, and the voice of your son.
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I can't do a solitary thing on my own.
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I listen, then I decide.
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I can trust my decision if I'm not out to get my own way, but only to carry out your orders.
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I won't, and I don't want to speak words on my own authority and make them up.
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Rather, it will be you, Father, who will craft each word so that it may become an act or an event or work that reveals your presence.
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Then they will see the words, believe the words, and see the doer, you.
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They will recognize that you are in me and I am in you.
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Unless I'm dead to the world, I will not be anything but a grain of wheat.
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But if I am dead and buried to the world, I will sprout and reproduce your life many times over.
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I must let go of my life, recklessly abandoning myself into your love.
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Oh, how I want to participate in your life, Father, here on earth, while turning my back on the world.
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These are all Jesus' words that you now make yours.
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We don't want to.
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We must become like him, period.
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So look at this, these verses on the board, and let's in our own way dedicate ourselves to this.
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It's only on one side.
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Hey, Shailen, you can... Thanks, man. It's a big deal.
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Your hands are okay?
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We'll reward you in heaven.
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Okay, so guys, this is what I want us to find an ability to commit to.
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Father, you are in me and I in you.
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You knew me and loved me before I was formed.
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Righteous Father, the world hasn't known you, but I've known you.
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I so want to make your very being known to them, who you are and how you do,
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so that your life and love towards me might become something they experience.
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Everything I do and say must be a unique father-son operation,
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coming out of father-son intimacies and knowledge.
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No one knows me the way you do, Father, and I want to know you, Father, the way Jesus does,
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and I will not keep it to myself.
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I'm ready to go over it line by line with anyone willing to listen, walk, work, and learn.
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Can you just go over that for a couple of minutes, and then we'll end.
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Even pondering on this for a week would change you.
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Just the first line is so hard to wrap my head around or my heart around.
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Just pick two sentences out of this for now. Just two. It's too much.
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Just two.
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Or even half sentences.
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Or even half sentences, because some of the blooming sentences are so long,
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meaning the way I've put them.
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Okay, I pick my two. You pick your two.
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Isn't this immediately~~~
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nochmal
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Again, don't drop it like a little pink attention seed.
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Just a single word, twoань.
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Tony come up. Sheldon can you sit on the piano if your hands are okay. Emily come up.
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Praful if you can pull up. Good, good father. Did you pick out two sentences? Here were my two sentences.
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Father, you are in me and I am in you. Because I find that just mind-defying.
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And then the second one was, everything I do must come out of a unique father-son operation.
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Those are the two things that I will hold on to for the rest of this week and use it as part of my devotion every morning.
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These are two things that will go over. Because I want change man. I want to be like him.
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Everybody will benefit if we be like him. Everybody around us.
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In our dealings with people, our approach, our functioning, everything changes.
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So before we leave, what's his name, we will put it back. We can't call him Praful anymore, we call him Boss.
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So Boss will put it back on the screen before you leave. So even as you are leaving you can see it.
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So let's sing this song and let everything we have done, heard, learned and his very presence in our midst cause us to give him worship though we can't sing out loud.
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Another week of this and then we can start singing. Go ahead Emily.
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Alright you guys, let's start again. This is not the closing song. This is something we are singing to the father.
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This is the problem with this last song. It's like, oh finally. Then we can go home and we hope he doesn't sing it twice.
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So let's start again. Just go over it one more time. Okay, let's go.
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But we know better guys, we know better.
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Everyone here has heard this.
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He's pleased with you. He likes you.
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Speak it as loud as you can. Good, good father.
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It's who you are, it's who you are.
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And I am loved by you. Just like you love your son Jesus.
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It's who I am, it's who I am.
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I've sent many searching for answers, far and wide.
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But I know we're all searching for answers.
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Only you provide cause you know just what we need before we leave.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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Say your word, you're a good, good father.
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It's who you are, it's who you are.
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You're a good father.
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It's who you are and I'm loved by you.
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It's who I am, it's who I am.
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It's who I am.
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You are perfect in all of your ways.
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Hallelujah.
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You are perfect in all of your ways.
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You are perfect.
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You are perfect in all of your ways.
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You are perfect in all of your ways.
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You are perfect in all of your ways to us.
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Undeniable.
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Love so undeniable.
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I can hardly speak.
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Peace so unexplainable.
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I can hardly think as you call me.
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Deeper still as you call me.
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Deeper still as you call me.
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Deeper still into love.
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Love, love, you're a good, good father.
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It's who you are.
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It's who you are.
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It's who you are.
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And I'm loved by you.
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It's who I am.
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It's who I am.
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It's who I am.
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You're a good, good father.
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It's who you are.
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It's who you are.
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It's who you are.
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And I'm loved by you.
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It's who I am.
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It's who I am.
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It's who I am.
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Hallelujah.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Father, you are a good, good father.
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You've always been that way, Lord.
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Now let others see you in us.
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You in us and we in you.
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May others, may the world see this.
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And help us to be you.
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And make sons and daughters, oh God, sons for you.
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So that we prepare to have your inheritance, oh God.
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And train them too to have the inheritance from you.
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And wisdom, power, love, faith.
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Everything that you have is now ours.
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Isn't that amazing?
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God, now help us to live this.
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Help us to live this.
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Help us to live this, Lord.
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Amen.
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Thank you, Sue.