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Day of the Sons 2

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  1. Does Jane know you're behind the board?

  2. Okay.

  3. Alright, guys, so today we talk about Day of the Sun's Part 2.

  4. We did this yesterday, we started yesterday, so you'll have to go and listen to yesterday's first part,

  5. if you want to have a background on the second part.

  6. So, even though it's Father's Day, the title of the teaching is Day of the Sun's Part 2.

  7. And yesterday we looked at Psalm 45, 16 and 17.

  8. Sheldon, I hope you're making notes.

  9. Okay.

  10. Psalm 45, verse 16 and 17.

    Psalms 45:16

  11. This is commitment, huh?

  12. You get six months free probation.

  13. Psalm 45, verse 16 and 17, it says,

    Psalms 45:16

  14. Your sons will take the place of your fathers, you will make them princes throughout the land.

  15. I will perpetuate your memory through all generations, therefore the nations will praise you forever and ever.

  16. So, the reason we are talking about this on Father's Day is because any father has a desire to see his son perpetuate his name.

  17. That is the intent.

  18. Every father has a desire to see his name perpetuated by his son.

  19. And so every father has a desire that the sons will take the place of their fathers.

  20. And that they will rule as regents in the land that the father has.

  21. And this was the intent that the father had in Genesis where he looked at Adam and said, Adam, you're my son.

  22. He used to call Adam the son of God.

  23. Luke 3.38 talks about it.

  24. And then he says that, listen, Adam, you're my son and I want you to be my regent, as in the one who rules on my behalf.

  25. I want you to perpetuate my name and that is why I made you after my image and likeness so that you take on my kind.

  26. I trust you.

  27. That was the intent.

  28. And so on Father's Day to speak of the Day of the Sons is just perfect because that's what fathers actually desire.

  29. And when revival awakens any people, God becomes visibly available as father.

  30. God becomes visibly available as father.

  31. That's one of the things that becomes evident in any genuine revival.

  32. God becomes visibly available as a father.

  33. And he becomes visibly available as a father with his heart, with his nature, with his function, with his approach, with his motivation.

  34. That becomes most evident.

  35. The unfortunate thing is though that Satan also functions the same way.

  36. Jesus called him the father of lies.

  37. The unfortunate thing is that Satan functions the same way and in Ephesians 2 we see that he is raising children of disobedience who follow the father of lies.

  38. So fatherhood is not limited to the kingdom.

  39. Everything in the satanic kingdom, everything in the non-Christ kingdom is a counterfeit of what has been started by the father.

  40. There's nothing creative that the devil can do.

  41. He has never invented a single thing.

  42. He only counterfeits what is good.

  43. He takes power and makes it domination.

  44. He takes sex and he makes it lust.

  45. He takes money and it makes it greed.

  46. He takes wisdom and makes it earthly knowledge.

  47. So he can only distort what God has created.

  48. Because he was aware of who God was, because he has seen God in real before he gets cast out of heaven, the thing is Satan also practices fatherhood.

  49. Only his fatherhood is fathering orphans and keeping them as orphans while God is a father who receives orphans and changes them into sons and daughters.

  50. So there is this raising of the children of disobedience who follow the father of lies.

  51. So when we talk about fatherhood, there are two fathers trying to perpetuate who they are through their sons.

  52. Only we have a good father who perpetuates his son through us.

  53. And then there is a father of lies who keeps them as orphans who perpetuates his character.

  54. So what we're going to talk about today is, okay,

  55. So now that God is saying, I want my sons to take the place of their fathers, what does it look like for you and I?

  56. We're not going to look at ourselves as, oh, we are sons.

  57. We're going to look at, on Father's Day, what would it be if we began to behave like the father?

  58. On Father's Day, what would it look like if you and I began to behave like fathers?

  59. And the term fathers and the term sons, just for our knowledge, is gender free.

  60. It is not limited to male or female.

  61. So when I say the word father, don't think, ah shucks, I'm a female.

  62. No, when I say the word sons, don't think, ah shucks, I'm not a guy.

  63. It's genderless.

  64. So if we began to think of, okay, so the Father in Heaven, just like he did with Jesus,

  65. wants us to step into this place where we become fathers to the world, to people, to our family, to the church family,

  66. so that we can convey what we need to, well then, what does it look like?

  67. The first thing is, as a father, as a father, your main assignment, as a father is to be a father.

  68. As a father, your main assignment, as a father, your main assignment is to make, you're good man, thanks so much,

  69. is to make fathers out of your sons.

  70. That is so cool, man.

  71. As a father, your main assignment is to make fathers out of your sons.

  72. As in, can you make the ones that are in your charge become like him?

  73. That is your main assignment.

  74. Our assignment is not to recruit more sons.

  75. Our assignment is, can I now do what Psalm 45, verse 16 and 17 says, so that you begin to look more like him?

    Psalms 45:16

  76. Our main assignment is to make fathers out of sons.

  77. Second, as a father, as a father, your children must experience the heavenly father, must experience the heavenly father.

  78. Father, you can always relax between writings, like just chill out.

  79. No, not that chill out.

  80. Give a foot to take a yard nowadays.

  81. So, as a father, you must experience, as a father, one of your heart's desire is, my children must experience the heavenly father.

  82. My children must not know or study, but must experience the heavenly father.

  83. These must be so concrete in your heart, guys.

  84. The thing is, there's nobody here who cannot operate in this role.

  85. This must be something you desire, because this is what the father wanted to perpetuate on earth.

  86. That is why he says, listen, I want you to be conformed to the stature of my son, Jesus Christ, Ephesians 4, 17.

  87. I want you to be like that. Why? So that then you can go and do what my son did.

  88. Any questions on that? Any thoughts as in, maybe this isn't really the main thing? It is.

  89. Any questions?

  90. Any questions?

  91. Are you just flexing your arm, not raising your arm?

  92. Your children must experience the heavenly father. As a father.

  93. It is to make fathers out of sons.

  94. It's very difficult when you have to start talking to your digital board. It feels very weird.

  95. Any questions, guys?

  96. Yep.

  97. How we can aid that, yeah. One of the ways we aid, okay, Evan's question is, how do we go about it?

  98. How do we go about making fathers out of our sons? How do we go about having our children experience the heavenly father?

  99. Let me first define sons and children. Anyone who is placed in your charge by God is.

  100. And it doesn't, it's not age relevant. Anyone.

  101. And so, you then have to, yeah, we'll talk about it. Further down we'll talk about it. Yeah.

  102. Guys, the thing is, as a father, the capacity to birth and nurture is inherently present in you.

  103. The capacity to birth and nurture is inherently present in you.

  104. Jacob, how can you say that? Guys, we've got to go back to the book of Genesis, chapter one.

  105. What did he say there? What was his primary intent? Here's what I want you to do.

  106. I want you to go forth. I want you to multiply. I want you to multiply. I want you to go forth.

  107. I want you to replenish the earth and I want you to subdue. What was his intent for man right off the bat?

  108. Listen, I made you like me. I want you to go and fill the earth with more like-me's.

  109. It is inherent in human beings to multiply after his kind and then it gets shattered.

  110. And another father comes in and he begins to multiply after his kind.

  111. And then comes Jesus and he gets it back, redeems it, restores it and says, alright, plan A is still functioning.

  112. There is no plan B. Go now and do exactly what I told Adam to do that he messed up. You can start doing it again.

  113. What is the first step in doing it? Become like my son because my son is like me.

  114. So we have a visible image of the invisible father and we become like him.

  115. As we become like him, it is natural, it is inherent in you to begin to help others become what you have now become.

  116. It is inherent in you. Hey, you can read all the parenting books you want to and then you have that baby and those books are useless.

  117. You can use them when you run out of Pampers.

  118. That's the only use because your child is like no other child.

  119. And then you begin to find out that inherent in you is this ability to take care of the child.

  120. That you will not sleep, that you will spend crazy money, that you will think crying is music.

  121. All kinds of things happen and suddenly you realize that inherent in you is the ability to birth and nurture.

  122. And it must be after, the only catch is it must be after his kind.

  123. And the world around you will do everything in its power to help the church raise up the children.

  124. To help the church raise up the children of God after the world's kind.

  125. All the education, all the entertainment, everything is geared towards one end.

  126. Can the people in the church raise their children not after his kind but after the world's kind?

  127. How do they do it? They do it just like Nebuchadnezzar do it.

  128. Name your child a different name.

  129. Give your child the deities that King Nebuchadnezzar said before.

  130. Thousands of young men and only three stood up.

  131. The rest of them went for it.

  132. It is inherent in you.

  133. But this desire must first grow, right?

  134. This desire must first grow.

  135. Hey guys, my mum is 81.

  136. I do my best to father her.

  137. That sounds like such a weird statement.

  138. But I'll do everything in my power to help her experience the father.

  139. I'll do everything in my power to try and interact with her like the father interacts with me and expects me to interact with her.

  140. At some point in her life she acknowledged that her son could be someone who could help her and tell her what to do.

  141. And immediately the role changed.

  142. Whenever I feel snappish, whenever I feel irritated, whenever I want to shout at her for something she's doing that doesn't fit my fancy,

  143. could be right but I still don't like it, I'll have to go back into this place that doesn't fit my fancy.

  144. I'll have to go back into this place that, Jacob, yes you are a son but you need to know how to spiritually father even your mother.

  145. We don't realize how much God desires this for us and through us into other people's lives.

  146. Any questions?

  147. Not everybody has a spiritual father that they can model themselves as.

  148. You mentioned that.

  149. We are still trying to see if Martin Luther's Reformation 500 years ago is working properly or not and we still haven't gotten there.

  150. We still are struggling with the just shall live by faith.

  151. But a hundred years from now what if there's a sufficient groundswell?

  152. How do you father somebody who has more?

  153. Because the authority part can come if it comes and when it comes.

  154. It is a heart that I'm trying to convey so that they can experience the Heavenly Father.

  155. It's a heart that they can experience the Heavenly Father.

  156. And it's a heart that they are able to experience the Heavenly Father.

  157. And it's a heart that they are able to experience the Heavenly Father.

  158. It is a heart that they can experience the Heavenly Father.

  159. It is a heart that I must convey.

  160. My mum has more authority over me because she is my mum.

  161. She has the right to bless me or curse me.

  162. Thank God she only blesses me.

  163. But can I convey what the father wants to her? Absolutely.

  164. When she is at my place then the authority structures shift.

  165. But when I'm at her place she is an authority over me.

  166. There are certain things that she always will have over me because I'm her son.

  167. So unfortunately because either we got it wrong, taught it wrong, behaved wrong, abused it.

  168. We think of being fathers in terms of authority.

  169. And God thinks of it as can you convey the attributes of my life?

  170. Can you convey what you guys talked about on Saturday?

  171. The authority part is the easy part.

  172. Hey Mark, take your mask off. Hey Mark, put your mask on.

  173. That's the authority part.

  174. It's the other part that is difficult.

  175. That is why the authority part is the easiest to choose.

  176. As a father you must see the value in an individual's destiny and you must also see God's corporate purpose.

  177. As a father you must see the value of a person's individual destiny.

  178. As in, okay, so what is the value of a person's individual destiny?

  179. As a father you must see the value of a person's individual destiny.

  180. As in, okay, so what is it, oh God, that you have for Rachel?

  181. What do you, oh God, have for Leah?

  182. And that's one part of it, an individual destiny.

  183. And then you take the entire family and say what is their common purpose?

  184. Because these individual destinies fit into the larger common purpose and it's the same way in the church.

  185. Suddenly everyone has a full-time job.

  186. Jacob, this is only for certain people, not for me.

  187. It is for anyone who belongs to the father.

  188. Because this is what the father is about.

  189. The father is continuously thinking like this.

  190. As a father, discipling and discipline is critical and it has fathering written into the DNA.

  191. As a father, and this is a tough one, because this is when we decide not to do anything,

  192. but we have to do something, we have to do something.

  193. We have to do something.

  194. And as a father, you have to have discipline and discipline.

  195. Discipline is part of the fathering DNA.

  196. Discipline is part of the fathering DNA.

  197. Jesus talks about it as a father.

  198. He talks about it as a father.

  199. Jesus talks about it in Hebrews chapter 12 and this is so critical.

    Hebrews 12 chapter mention

  200. If you leave this out, you will raise children who cannot be fruitful.

  201. Leave this out and you will raise children, yes, they will grow up but they will not be fruitful.

  202. There is no fruitfulness in life without instruction, correction, discipline.

  203. And it is that the progression is instruction, correction, discipline.

  204. Some children, you instruct them, they learn.

  205. Some children don't learn through instruction so you go from instruction to correction.

  206. And some children don't learn through correction then you go from instruction to discipline.

  207. And God follows that pathway, He invented it.

  208. What does He do first with Cain?

  209. He knows where Cain is heading.

  210. What does He go and tell Cain?

  211. What does He go and tell Cain?

  212. Hey Cain, be careful, sin crouches at your door and is wanting to master you.

  213. Instruction, correction, discipline and why, why?

  214. For two reasons, one, so that I be fruitful.

  215. So fathers that avoid discipling and discipline through instruction, correction and discipline

  216. are fathers who will have sons that are grown up but you are doing them a disservice

  217. because they will never be fruitful.

  218. I don't know anything about gardening but I believe if you don't prune, they don't prune.

  219. They don't produce prunes.

  220. Yeah.

  221. What does a prune look like?

  222. No, don't point towards me.

  223. Oh, a plum is a prune?

  224. A dry plum is a prune.

  225. My God, I'm learning things today.

  226. The same thing is all these things I mentioned, Jesus walked this relationship with His father

  227. and He walked out of the, and He worked out this relationship with His disciples.

  228. Jesus walked this relationship with His father.

  229. We think Jesus didn't have any discipling, disciplining instruction.

  230. Of course He did.

  231. Hebrews 5 talks about it.

  232. That He learned obedience through suffering.

  233. He had to be instructed.

  234. He wasn't a kid who knew everything, downloaded it.

  235. He wasn't a robot.

  236. He wasn't like this digital board.

  237. He learned things.

  238. So Jesus walked in this relationship with His father and then worked out this relationship with disciples

  239. as must you.

  240. We learn from the Father.

  241. We then work it out with the people that we are placed with.

  242. What a cool thing, man.

  243. Everyone here has a full-time job.

  244. And once you take on this full-time job, you won't want too much because it's a,

  245. ask any parent here and they'll tell you how painful and long it is.

  246. They don't leave your home till they are, I left home when I was 28.

  247. Pardon?

  248. Yeah.

  249. Yeah.

  250. But the intent is that the sons begin to perpetuate who the Father is.

  251. Here's a cool thing about pastoring versus fathering.

  252. And I'm not talking about me.

  253. I'm talking about us thinking of, oh, my job is to pastor others or to shepherd others.

  254. Guys, fathering only produces remnants.

  255. Pastoring can produce large churches.

  256. Fathering produces remnants.

  257. As in, the strange thing with God is, God always starts with a small group of quality disciples.

  258. Or lacking quality.

  259. But he starts with a small group.

  260. Remnants represent what God wants everybody to be.

  261. Remnants represent what God wants everybody to be.

  262. Remnants represent what God wants everybody to be.

  263. God puts something into remnants and then he wants to release it to everyone at some stage

  264. when the remnant has modeled it properly.

  265. Now that he has a prototype, he'll say, aha, now we can go.

  266. That's what he did with Adam and Eve.

  267. Listen, I'll start with you.

  268. I'll walk with you.

  269. I'll teach you.

  270. I'll come every evening.

  271. You will spend time with me.

  272. I'll tell you things.

  273. And that began the process.

  274. Then he goes to Jacob and his family, twelve.

  275. He says, I want to start a nation through you.

  276. And the twelve become seventy and the seventy become a million.

  277. He always starts with a remnant.

  278. Fathering produces remnant.

  279. Because you can only handle so many at a time, guys.

  280. This is why a church that is dependent on one person will collapse.

  281. This is why it is critical that fathers perpetuate themselves in their sons

  282. who now step into the place of their fathers and it begins to spread.

  283. This is why what may have been my initial responsibility is no longer my responsibility.

  284. It is yours and you now perpetuate it.

  285. And you now perpetuate it.

  286. God warns everybody but he never starts with everybody.

  287. I'm telling you stuff that's in the Bible.

  288. God warns everybody but he never starts with everybody.

  289. He starts with a remnant.

  290. He started with the twelve.

  291. Look what's happened, man.

  292. God warns everybody but he never starts with everybody.

  293. And so if you isolate yourself, you miss out on what the father does.

  294. One of the things the father enjoys doing is he enjoys increasing your capacity.

  295. He increases my capacity.

  296. He increases your capacity.

  297. So when you start behaving like the father with others,

  298. you must aim not at giving them what you have,

  299. but you must aim at increasing their capacity

  300. because they are going to have to handle much more than you are handling.

  301. So the way I would put it is,

  302. as a father, you must increase the capacity to handle inheritance.

  303. You must increase a person's capacity to handle their inheritance.

  304. Just imagine if Elijah hadn't done that for Elisha.

  305. All these noises are coming from the digital board.

  306. We need to fix that transformer in the back.

  307. Someone who doesn't know any of this will suddenly believe it

  308. because they actually see these fingers.

  309. Put those fingers down.

  310. People will think you are real.

  311. I'm just kidding, Sheldon.

  312. I owe you one after this.

  313. This is actually fun.

  314. By the way, if anyone wants to volunteer for next Sunday, just let me know.

  315. Any takers?

  316. No, Sheldon, I think they like you.

  317. Is this a self-erasing thingy?

  318. No?

  319. Sorry, we shouldn't get carried away with this.

  320. There are more important things happening up front.

  321. As a father, you must increase a person's capacity for inheritance.

  322. What if Elijah hadn't treated Elisha well?

  323. How would he have handled twice of everything?

  324. He asked for a double portion.

  325. Elijah was doubtful whether the guy could handle it.

  326. He said, it's not mine to give.

  327. If God thinks so, he'll give it to you.

  328. The only way you'll know that God thinks so is if you see me being taken away.

  329. He had prepared that guy out of the 52 prophets that followed Elijah that day,

  330. from Jericho to Gilgal to Bethel to the Jordan.

  331. There was only one man who kept following, kept following, kept following

  332. because in him was a capacity to now receive everything that Elijah had.

  333. Only he went and asked not for what Elijah had.

  334. He said, I want twice what you have.

  335. Elijah is doubtful whether the guy has it.

  336. What if you and I began to run in a way where the intent is I will increase your capacity

  337. so that when your turn comes, you will be ready to handle your inheritance?

  338. Because your inheritance will not be what I have.

  339. It will be what I have plus whatever God gives you.

  340. Sometimes the only way to increase capacity is to stretch people and put them in danger.

  341. Not real danger, what they think is danger.

  342. I remember the first time my dad allowed me to step out of the train,

  343. onto the platform and brush my teeth with him because in India you can do that.

  344. It's a long story, but basically what you can do is you can step out of the platform

  345. and you can start brushing your teeth while the train is parked at the platform

  346. and then my mom was really scared of what will happen next

  347. because my dad's intent was when this train starts moving,

  348. I will help you jump into the train and it will be like this rite of passage.

  349. I'm all tensed, I've brushed my teeth, I've put the toothbrush in my pocket and I'm waiting

  350. because this is the moment when you become a man.

  351. Then finally you hear the go, because there were steam engines those days,

  352. you don't know what that is.

  353. That was him again.

  354. Then what happens is the train starts moving and my dad had,

  355. and I'm like adrenaline rushing through me because if you don't get in then the train is gone

  356. and then you start singing, if you miss the train I'm on, you will know that I am gone.

  357. No, so there's this tension building up and suddenly my dad will come and say,

  358. and then the train would be moving and you would grab both the things

  359. and you would step into it and you would feel like you were a man.

  360. All the danger, all the tension was in here, but in my dad's eyes it was,

  361. no son, don't worry, I got your back.

  362. And he would make sure that as I stepped in he was right there,

  363. there was no way I could fall.

  364. And my mom would be screaming, saying what's wrong with you?

  365. And then spit out of the window.

  366. Thank God my mom doesn't follow me on live stream.

  367. So you can only stretch a person's capacity for inheritance by putting them in a place

  368. where they are actually stretched and that is another part of fatherhood.

  369. So I'm going to go back to the train and I'm going to go back to the train.

  370. I'm going to go back to the train and I'm going to go back to the train.

  371. And that is another part of fathering that most people will not attempt

  372. because the reaction or the response back is not pleasant.

  373. And if it's not pleasant, try it again later.

  374. Any questions?

  375. Because if I don't and if you don't increase a person's capacity for inheritance,

  376. they will only know how to handle what you handle now.

  377. But the years ahead are far greater. It will break them.

  378. Guys, it broke Solomon. It broke Solomon.

  379. David gave him everything.

  380. He prepared the nuts and the bolts and the timber

  381. and he got everything ready for the building of the temple.

  382. But what he forgot was to build his son.

  383. His son got everything that David had.

  384. He had the ability to handle what the father gave him.

  385. He did not have the ability to handle what the father gave him.

  386. He did not have the ability to handle what was awaiting him later after his father had died.

  387. And it broke that man because he could not handle his inheritance.

  388. Jesus prepared inheritors.

  389. Jesus prepared inheritors.

  390. We call them disciples. We call them apostles.

  391. Jesus prepared inheritors who could invest what he gave them

  392. and then produce such a momentum after he left that a greater harvest happened.

  393. Jesus prepared inheritors.

  394. This is why you hear stuff like,

  395. Master, but we have only two fish and two loaves and five fish.

  396. What do we do? I don't know. You feed them.

  397. Five thousand people. You feed them.

  398. Different situations he puts them in.

  399. I want you to go and when you go there,

  400. there will be a donkey tied outside a man's house

  401. and if the man comes and asks you why you are taking the donkey,

  402. just tell him that the master has need for them.

  403. And he sends them off.

  404. Then he decides, okay, let's send you out two by two

  405. to preach, to heal, to cleanse lepers, to raise the dead, to heal the sick.

  406. Go. He doesn't go with them.

  407. But they come back and they come back rejoicing,

  408. saying demons left when we spoke.

  409. You can't imagine the joy that Jesus would have felt

  410. because the same joy that the father had over Jesus when he said,

  411. this is my son who is precious in my sight, beloved in my sight.

  412. Listen to him. The same Jesus is now saying,

  413. heaven was rejoicing and Satan fell like lightning.

  414. But do not be caught up that you cast out demons,

  415. but your names are written in the book of life.

  416. And he is thrilled at his disciples,

  417. knowing that one of them will betray him

  418. and that all of them will run away. But he is thrilled.

  419. Because he formed inheritors.

  420. The process of formation may be scary,

  421. but the intent is, can I create inheritors?

  422. Because I'm going to leave soon.

  423. When I leave soon, I'm speaking about Jesus now, not me.

  424. Because Derek and Don may come back saying,

  425. okay, I want to be the next pastor.

  426. So Derek, Don, stay there.

  427. The thing is, Jesus prepared inheritors who could invest what he gave them

  428. to produce a momentum that would end up in a greater harvest.

  429. So much so that Jesus goes as far as to say in John 14-12,

  430. that listen, you guys need to know that you will do greater work than I have done

  431. because I'm going to the Father.

  432. Sorry? Jesus prepared inheritors who could invest what he gave them

  433. to produce a momentum that would end up in a greater harvest.

  434. Jesus prepared inheritors who could invest what he gave them

  435. to produce a momentum that would result in a greater harvest

  436. than he himself accomplished.

  437. We're talking about the Son of God.

  438. Nutsy.

  439. And when you work as fathers, know that each of you will have different traits

  440. that nobody else can give to someone in your charge than you.

  441. Some of you will be wealth creators.

  442. Anything you touch turns to gold.

  443. The ones that God places in your lives will inherit that and more.

  444. Some of you will know how to war spiritually.

  445. Why? Because the one that you were raised under knows how to war spiritually.

  446. Some of you will have the ability to plumb the wisdom of God.

  447. And so you end up being some of the wisest people who live on earth.

  448. Like the tribes of Jacob, you find that each tribe has a trait,

  449. and that trait is strongly expressed in the clan for the rest of eternity.

  450. Judah, praise, forefront, warrior.

  451. Benjamin, ravenous wolf.

  452. Naftali, brimming with wealth.

  453. Joseph, fruitful bow that spreads over fences and walls.

  454. And Jesus said you will do greater works than this.

  455. It was not Jesus saying, okay, I'm going to do this.

  456. Jesus said you will do greater works than this.

  457. It was not Jesus saying, okay, so I'm gone now, you can continue.

  458. You know what he was saying?

  459. You'll do greater works than this because I'm going to the Father who is greater than me,

  460. and I'll continue to do these works through you.

  461. But I put enough on you to cause this momentum to really bring in a great harvest.

  462. Guys, if we do this, in a couple of generations, we can actually affect nations.

  463. And it sounds like such a hollow claim, Jacob.

  464. You can just say it because you won't be here in a couple of generations.

  465. You'll probably be dead in the next 50 years.

  466. The thing is, you've got to look into February 2005, 2006.

  467. Who would have ever thought that this motley crew would be where we are today?

  468. Who would have ever thought?

  469. Who would have ever thought that we'd have an influence in nations?

  470. Not me.

  471. Even though I dreamt of it, never thought it would be possible,

  472. which is why I read out Philippians 1, 3 to 6.

  473. I thank God every day for each of you.

  474. I don't thank God every day for each of you.

  475. That's Paul's words.

  476. What I mean is I'm super thankful.

  477. Yeah.

  478. Because this itself is impossible.

  479. Let's look at John 14.

  480. Look at a few verses and then we'll end.

  481. John 14.

  482. Sheldon, you're doing okay?

  483. You want a replacement?

  484. You're okay, huh?

  485. John 14.

  486. I'm sorry.

  487. Philipp said, Master, I'm reading from the message at times.

  488. Philipp said, Master, show us the Father, then we'll be content.

  489. So here's my question to you guys.

  490. What if someone said to you, what if someone came and said to you,

  491. hey Diana, show me the Father and I'll be content?

  492. What if someone said to you, Manoj, show me the Father and I'll be content?

  493. What would your reply be?

  494. I just hope that one day we'll be able to reply like this.

  495. I can't reply like this, but I long for it.

  496. I was reading it and I was thinking to myself, my God, Father, please, please, please.

  497. One day, not in the distant future where my feet are in the grave while I'm going up.

  498. Can I do it in the next little while where if someone comes and says to me,

  499. hey Jacob, show us the Father and then we'll be content?

  500. And my reply would be, believe me, I'm in the Father and the Father is in me.

  501. This is not a pipe dream, I really want this to happen for us.

  502. Believe me, I'm in the Father and the Father is in me.

  503. That's not borrowing a Jesus statement, that is the truth.

  504. If you read John 17 verse 21, if you read Colossians 1, 27, it says the Father is in

    John 17:21

  505. me and I'm in the Father.

  506. It already says that.

  507. I'm not plagiarizing a Jesus phrase.

  508. I'm telling you what is actually true.

  509. Colossians 1, 27, the hope of glory Christ in me and John 17, 21, Father, just as I'm

  510. in you and you are in me, can they also be in me so that they are in you?

  511. This is the true statement.

  512. What if one day this idea of perpetuating the Father and reflecting him through us gets

  513. to a point where we can say that believe me, I'm in the Father and the Father is in me.

  514. And then Philip asks the question and Jesus goes further, what if you could say this?

  515. Just imagine this, this is mind blowing.

  516. Would you be able to say, to see me is to see the Father.

  517. If you really knew me, you would know the Father as well.

  518. To see me is to see the Father.

  519. If you really knew me, you would know the Father as well.

  520. It's preposterous to even think of this but absolutely possible.

  521. Any questions, any comments?

  522. Any?

  523. The problem with masks is I don't know whether you're disbelieving, incredulous, happy, believing.

  524. We should have these kind of messages out there so you don't have to wear masks.

  525. Any questions?

  526. Would I be able to say, to see me is to see the Father.

  527. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well.

  528. So how can you ask, where is the Father?

  529. What a ridiculous statement to make as humans.

  530. But what if there are areas in your life where you can do this?

  531. John 12, 44, 45.

  532. John 12, 44, 45.

  533. Then Jesus cried out,

  534. When a man believes in Me, he does not believe in Me only,

  535. but in the one who sent Me.

  536. When he looks at Me, he sees the one who sent Me.

  537. My God, man, when he looks at Me, he sees the one who sent Me.

  538. When a man believes in Me, he does not just believe in Me,

  539. but he believes in the one who sent Me.

  540. When he looks at Me, he does not just see Me, he sees the one who sent Me.

  541. Come on man.

  542. Please don't put this in the, please don't, this disease called futurism postpones every

  543. statement like this into the future saying one day.

  544. No.

  545. Today is the day of the suns.

  546. Not one day.

  547. You're okay, Sheldon?

  548. Do you want to take a break?

  549. Not one day.

  550. I want this.

  551. I want this.

  552. Not just for me because it's pointless when one person does it.

  553. When people do it.

  554. There was something about the early church which had all kinds of problems, all kinds

  555. of sins.

  556. There was something about them that was distinctive in that two things happened to them.

  557. One people joined them by the thousands, two people persecuted them.

  558. There was something distinctive about them.

  559. It was that they were different from the normal.

  560. Jesus was evident.

  561. One more statement and we can close.

  562. John 14 verse 10.

    John 14:10

  563. Am I good on batteries?

  564. John 14 10.

  565. The first part was about character, now we move to verse 10.

  566. And verse 10 says, don't you believe that I am in the Father and that the Father is

  567. in me?

  568. The words I say to you are not just my own, rather it's the Father living in me who is

  569. doing this work.

  570. Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me.

  571. Or at least believe on the evidence of these miracles themselves.

  572. So here's the other catch now.

  573. If we say that this is the one we are perpetuating, the Father, then here's what is being said.

  574. Surely you believe that I am the Father and the Father is in me.

  575. And this is true.

  576. 1 Corinthians 6, 17 says, we become one with the Spirit of God.

  577. Romans 8, 15 and 16 says, he has given us his Spirit that allows us to cry out Father

  578. and that the Father lives in us and we have become one with him.

  579. So here's the question then.

  580. Can people believe that the Father is in me and I in the Father because they see the works

  581. that I do?

  582. And the answer is at present, no.

  583. What works are we talking about?

  584. We're not talking about soup and sandwich.

  585. We're talking about signs, miracles and wonders.

  586. And so the question is, so this is a statement I'm making.

  587. If people can't believe that the Father and you are one, can they believe what they see?

  588. Can they believe by the works you do?

  589. Go to John chapter 10, verse 37 and 38.

    John 10:37

  590. I'm just showing us where we horribly fall short right now.

  591. John chapter 10, verse 37 and 38.

    John 10:37

  592. Look at the statement Jesus is making.

  593. It's like almost a provocative, challenging statement.

  594. Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does.

  595. Do not believe me, he's saying.

  596. Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does.

  597. But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles that you may know

  598. and understand that the Father is in me and I in the Father.

  599. Guys, one of the evidences of the Father in you and you in the Father is that there should

  600. be works and we don't have it.

  601. But we can't do nothing about it.

  602. Hexed begin to take a couple of steps that Jesus mentions here so that he can begin this

  603. process.

  604. But he literally says, you don't need to believe in me if I don't do any works.

  605. Any questions, any thoughts?

  606. Jesus has gone to the Father.

  607. He's given me the same work to do that he has been doing.

  608. Let me say that slowly, just pay attention to another five minutes, we should be done.

  609. Jesus has gone to the Father.

  610. He has given me the work that he was doing to finish.

  611. Please understand that.

  612. That he has given us the work that he could have finished.

  613. He could have finished everything in three and a half years, but he decided not to.

  614. He has left work for us to do.

  615. This is your main work.

  616. Jesus has gone to the Father.

  617. He has given me the same work to do that he had been doing.

  618. And in chapter 14, verse 12, he tells me the two things that I require to be able to do

  619. the same things.

  620. Chapter 14, verse 12.

  621. I tell you the truth.

  622. I know this sounds terribly simple, but what can we do?

  623. Jesus is simple.

  624. I tell you the truth.

  625. Anyone who has faith in me will do what I've been doing.

  626. I'm not taking anything out of context.

  627. It's one of the few messages I'm actually staying in context.

  628. I tell you the truth.

  629. Anyone who has faith in me will do what I'm doing.

  630. You can have the assurance, Jacob, that if you trust in me, you will end up doing not

  631. only what Jesus was doing, you will do even greater things.

  632. Keep reading.

  633. I tell you the truth.

  634. Anyone who has faith in me will do what I've been doing.

  635. He will do even greater things than these because I'm going to the Father.

  636. So that's the first point.

  637. If you trust him, you can do the same things.

  638. He says, don't tell people to believe you if you can't do the works the Father is doing.

  639. These are not categorical blanket statements because he says, believe my words.

  640. Then he says, if they don't believe your words, tell them to believe my works.

  641. If you don't do the works my Father does, then don't ask them to believe you.

  642. So what else do we need to do?

  643. The second thing he says is, listen, ask anything in my name.

  644. Look at verse 13.

  645. I will do whatever you ask in my name so that the Son may bring glory to the Father.

  646. So how does that work?

  647. That's the last point.

  648. You are invited to come to the Father in the name of Jesus with the promise of enjoying

  649. the same access to God that Jesus enjoys.

  650. Let me say that again.

  651. I have an invitation, a standing invitation for the rest of eternity to come to the Father

  652. in the name of Jesus Christ with the promise of enjoying the same access that Jesus presently

  653. has with God.

  654. This is so ridiculous that it's hard to believe.

  655. Let me say that one last time.

  656. I am invited and I have a standing invitation to come to the Father in the name of Jesus

  657. And then he goes on to say that listen, ask anything in my name.

  658. And so let me just write this down.

  659. What it means when he says ask anything in my name.

  660. Ask as if I am in the Father's presence.

  661. When he says ask anything in my name.

  662. Ask as if I were asking.

  663. As in Jesus is saying, ask as if I were asking.

  664. And the second statement he's trying to make in that statement is ask what I would ask.

  665. Two things.

  666. Ask as if I were asking.

  667. And Jesus never asked anything without faith or trust in his Father.

  668. And ask as if I would ask.

  669. This is why Saturday's teaching, yesterday night's teaching is so critical.

  670. If you can understand those characteristics of God, it will be very hard to ask a miss.

  671. Ask as if I were asking, Jesus is saying.

  672. Hey Jacob, ask as if I were asking.

  673. Ask what I would ask.

  674. From now on, whatever you request along the lines of who I am and what I'm doing.

  675. Whatever you ask along the lines of who I am and what I'm doing.

  676. Who I am and what I'm doing.

  677. I'll do it for you.

  678. I'll do it for you.

  679. These are the three things that are difficult to fathom.

  680. But these are the three things we're going to spend a lot of time trying to figure out.

  681. So that we can be what God wants us to be.

  682. We can show them the Father.

  683. Any questions?

  684. Let me sum that up.

  685. To ask, that clock is wrong, right?

  686. It's showing 8 o'clock.

  687. What a comfort it was all this time.

  688. John 14 13.

  689. And I will do whatever you ask in my name so that the Son may bring glory to the Father.

  690. You may ask me for anything in my name and I will do it.

  691. The Greek says the same thing.

  692. I will do whatever you ask in my name so that the Son may bring glory to the Father.

  693. You may ask me for anything in my name and I will do it.

  694. What is he saying?

  695. Hey Jacob, ask as if I were asking.

  696. Jacob, ask what I would ask.

  697. Jacob, ask based on who I am.

  698. Jacob, ask what I am doing.

  699. And if you do this, and if you ask with faith, I guarantee you I will do whatever you ask.

  700. Then you can say to people, ah you don't believe my words.

  701. Believe my works.

  702. Jesus did this with the Pharisees when they crowded around the man who he forgave.

  703. He said, oh so you think that the Son of Man does not have the right to forgive sins?

  704. I do.

  705. But just so you know that this is just not talk, I say to you, pick up your bed and walk.

  706. And he walked.

  707. Words?

  708. They didn't believe it.

  709. Works?

  710. What could they do?

  711. Once you show people works, there's only three options.

  712. Believe.

  713. Stone you.

  714. Or walk away.

  715. Those are the only three options.

  716. Any questions?

  717. Because I'm done.

  718. Any questions guys?

  719. Please ask questions.

  720. This sounds terribly simple, but what can you do?

  721. You've got to press in, eh?

  722. And suddenly it will break forth, guys.

  723. Suddenly it will break forth.

  724. Suddenly it will break forth.

  725. These are precious things.

  726. Once they start happening, if you don't have the character of God, if you don't have the

  727. ability to inherit this, it will ruin this church, destroy this church.

  728. So don't think that he's not at work.

  729. He's at work changing our character, making us absolutely unbothered about how we look.

  730. How people perceive.

  731. He's just bringing us to a place where when this begins to break, it will not affect your

  732. head.

  733. It will not go to my head.

  734. Any questions?

  735. Okay.

  736. It's 3.46.

  737. One of the things I do is sometimes I go to the book of John and I take what Jesus is

  738. saying about the Father.

  739. Hey, can I have a little more volume?

  740. I take what Jesus is saying about the Father.

  741. Hey, can I have a little more volume?

  742. I take what I'm doing with the Father, what Jesus is saying to the Father, and then I

  743. write it in my own words as if I was saying it to the Father.

  744. It really helps because it puts you in a place where Jesus, the perfect son, was and it puts

  745. you in a connection, in relationship with the Father.

  746. So I'm just reading an excerpt and then we'll put some of it on the board and just commit

  747. to the Father with regard to this.

  748. So this was something I'd written.

  749. Father, shine a light on your splendor in me.

  750. Father, shine a light on your glory or your splendor in me.

  751. As in, each of us has a glory that God has now given us as born again believers.

  752. Shine your light on the splendor, on your splendor in me.

  753. I will spell out your character in detail to the men and women that you give me.

  754. These are things that Jesus said in John, part of it from the NIV, part of it from the

  755. message.

  756. I will spell out your character in detail to the men and women that you give me.

  757. Any of us can adopt this and put it for ourselves.

  758. Next one.

  759. Lord, put my life on display for them.

  760. Everything I give them must be first hand from you.

  761. Empower me by your Spirit to teach them your word.

  762. I want to glorify you on earth by completing down to the last detail what you assigned me to do.

  763. I joyfully come to consecrate myself for the mission you have given me and for those that you have placed in my care.

  764. Everything mine is yours and everything yours, O God, is mine.

  765. It's a very hard sentence, eh?

  766. It's not easy.

  767. Everything mine is yours and everything yours is mine.

  768. Not easy.

  769. Father, you are in me and I in you.

  770. You love me the same way you love your son.

  771. As I mature, you will give the godless world evidence of your presence and oneness in me.

  772. You knew me and loved me long before I was formed.

  773. Righteous father, the world hasn't known you, but I have known you.

  774. I so want to make your very being known to them, who you are and how you do, so that your life and love towards me might become something they experience.

  775. All this is from John 17.

  776. Everything I do and say must be a unique father-son operation, coming out of father and son intimacies and knowledge.

  777. No one knows me the way you do, Father, and I want to know you, Father, the way Jesus does.

  778. And I will not keep it to myself.

  779. I'm ready to go over it line by line with anyone willing to listen, walk, work and learn.

  780. Matthew 11, 26.

  781. I can't independently do a thing.

  782. I can only do what I see you doing, Father.

  783. What you do, I will do also.

  784. Father, you love me, your son, and you include me in everything you're doing around me.

  785. And I haven't seen the half of it yet.

  786. I align myself with you, Father, and the voice of your son.

  787. I can't do a solitary thing on my own.

  788. I listen, then I decide.

  789. I can trust my decision if I'm not out to get my own way, but only to carry out your orders.

  790. I won't, and I don't want to speak words on my own authority and make them up.

  791. Rather, it will be you, Father, who will craft each word so that it may become an act or an event or work that reveals your presence.

  792. Then they will see the words, believe the words, and see the doer, you.

  793. They will recognize that you are in me and I am in you.

  794. Unless I'm dead to the world, I will not be anything but a grain of wheat.

  795. But if I am dead and buried to the world, I will sprout and reproduce your life many times over.

  796. I must let go of my life, recklessly abandoning myself into your love.

  797. Oh, how I want to participate in your life, Father, here on earth, while turning my back on the world.

  798. These are all Jesus' words that you now make yours.

  799. We don't want to.

  800. We must become like him, period.

  801. So look at this, these verses on the board, and let's in our own way dedicate ourselves to this.

  802. It's only on one side.

  803. Hey, Shailen, you can... Thanks, man. It's a big deal.

  804. Your hands are okay?

  805. We'll reward you in heaven.

  806. Okay, so guys, this is what I want us to find an ability to commit to.

  807. Father, you are in me and I in you.

  808. You knew me and loved me before I was formed.

  809. Righteous Father, the world hasn't known you, but I've known you.

  810. I so want to make your very being known to them, who you are and how you do,

  811. so that your life and love towards me might become something they experience.

  812. Everything I do and say must be a unique father-son operation,

  813. coming out of father-son intimacies and knowledge.

  814. No one knows me the way you do, Father, and I want to know you, Father, the way Jesus does,

  815. and I will not keep it to myself.

  816. I'm ready to go over it line by line with anyone willing to listen, walk, work, and learn.

  817. Can you just go over that for a couple of minutes, and then we'll end.

  818. Even pondering on this for a week would change you.

  819. Just the first line is so hard to wrap my head around or my heart around.

  820. Just pick two sentences out of this for now. Just two. It's too much.

  821. Just two.

  822. Or even half sentences.

  823. Or even half sentences, because some of the blooming sentences are so long,

  824. meaning the way I've put them.

  825. Okay, I pick my two. You pick your two.

  826. Isn't this immediately~~~

  827. nochmal

  828. Again, don't drop it like a little pink attention seed.

  829. Just a single word, twoань.

  830. Tony come up. Sheldon can you sit on the piano if your hands are okay. Emily come up.

  831. Praful if you can pull up. Good, good father. Did you pick out two sentences? Here were my two sentences.

  832. Father, you are in me and I am in you. Because I find that just mind-defying.

  833. And then the second one was, everything I do must come out of a unique father-son operation.

  834. Those are the two things that I will hold on to for the rest of this week and use it as part of my devotion every morning.

  835. These are two things that will go over. Because I want change man. I want to be like him.

  836. Everybody will benefit if we be like him. Everybody around us.

  837. In our dealings with people, our approach, our functioning, everything changes.

  838. So before we leave, what's his name, we will put it back. We can't call him Praful anymore, we call him Boss.

  839. So Boss will put it back on the screen before you leave. So even as you are leaving you can see it.

  840. So let's sing this song and let everything we have done, heard, learned and his very presence in our midst cause us to give him worship though we can't sing out loud.

  841. Another week of this and then we can start singing. Go ahead Emily.

  842. Alright you guys, let's start again. This is not the closing song. This is something we are singing to the father.

  843. This is the problem with this last song. It's like, oh finally. Then we can go home and we hope he doesn't sing it twice.

  844. So let's start again. Just go over it one more time. Okay, let's go.

  845. But we know better guys, we know better.

  846. Everyone here has heard this.

  847. He's pleased with you. He likes you.

  848. Speak it as loud as you can. Good, good father.

  849. It's who you are, it's who you are.

  850. And I am loved by you. Just like you love your son Jesus.

  851. It's who I am, it's who I am.

  852. I've sent many searching for answers, far and wide.

  853. But I know we're all searching for answers.

  854. Only you provide cause you know just what we need before we leave.

  855. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

  856. Say your word, you're a good, good father.

  857. It's who you are, it's who you are.

  858. You're a good father.

  859. It's who you are and I'm loved by you.

  860. It's who I am, it's who I am.

  861. It's who I am.

  862. You are perfect in all of your ways.

  863. Hallelujah.

  864. You are perfect in all of your ways.

  865. You are perfect.

  866. You are perfect in all of your ways.

  867. You are perfect in all of your ways.

  868. You are perfect in all of your ways to us.

  869. Undeniable.

  870. Love so undeniable.

  871. I can hardly speak.

  872. Peace so unexplainable.

  873. I can hardly think as you call me.

  874. Deeper still as you call me.

  875. Deeper still as you call me.

  876. Deeper still into love.

  877. Love, love, you're a good, good father.

  878. It's who you are.

  879. It's who you are.

  880. It's who you are.

  881. And I'm loved by you.

  882. It's who I am.

  883. It's who I am.

  884. It's who I am.

  885. You're a good, good father.

  886. It's who you are.

  887. It's who you are.

  888. It's who you are.

  889. And I'm loved by you.

  890. It's who I am.

  891. It's who I am.

  892. It's who I am.

  893. Hallelujah.

  894. Thank you.

  895. Thank you.

  896. Thank you.

  897. Thank you.

  898. Thank you.

  899. Thank you.

  900. Thank you.

  901. Thank you.

  902. Father, you are a good, good father.

  903. You've always been that way, Lord.

  904. Now let others see you in us.

  905. You in us and we in you.

  906. May others, may the world see this.

  907. And help us to be you.

  908. And make sons and daughters, oh God, sons for you.

  909. So that we prepare to have your inheritance, oh God.

  910. And train them too to have the inheritance from you.

  911. And wisdom, power, love, faith.

  912. Everything that you have is now ours.

  913. Isn't that amazing?

  914. God, now help us to live this.

  915. Help us to live this.

  916. Help us to live this, Lord.

  917. Amen.

  918. Thank you, Sue.