Sermon
Apostolic-Dimension-II
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Transcript
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Almost four weeks ago, we were talking about apostolic dimension and then we stopped.
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This is the second part and some additions to it.
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So this is just recap. Are we good to go?
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Okay. So this is just recap.
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We said the idea of apostolic is the idea of sending.
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It's working? Cool.
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So it's basically sending.
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So it is this idea of a sending church.
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So the church becomes a sent one.
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A sending of the church by the sender, God, with a very specific mandate or a mission.
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That is the idea of being apostolic.
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A sending of the church, us, by the sender, God, with a clear mandate.
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And so let's not complicate it. It involves everybody.
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A sending of the church, and so the church becomes a sent one, by the sender, the sender is God, with a clear mandate.
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And we'll talk about that.
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And then we said sending is governmental.
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And so this is just a recap. Sending is governmental.
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And why is it governmental?
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Because whenever a people are sent, what are they sent for?
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They are sent into a world that is hostile to dispossess it off its previous owners
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because Christ has paid the price and ransomed the entire earth back.
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He's bought all the nations back with his blood.
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So sending is governmental because it dispossesses to possess, as in return it to the original owner.
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Then it restores culture. What culture?
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The same culture that was prevalent in Eden, the same culture that God wants to colonize the earth with, which is the culture of heaven.
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Then third, it reinforces maturity, as in this is not the idea of apostolic is always to bring people into maturity.
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To raise the babies is not the idea of the apostolic.
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It is to bring into maturity. It's a critical factor.
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The third one is it establishes beachheads, as in now that you have been brought into maturity,
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now that you have a culture that is very similar to that in Eden,
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and now that you have possessed what God gave you to possess,
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now establish a beachhead and from that beachhead,
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send forth people to take on other places that need to be possessed.
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So we talked about that.
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And besides that, we must remember that the very idea of Matthew 28, 18 is based on,
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I mean what did Jesus say? Go there forth.
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So every church is supposed to be apostolic and it's going forth because God has given you authority.
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When we're talking about sending being governmental, with government comes authority.
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There is a new government, whether you like it or not.
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It is the government of the kingdom and it is prosecuted by a king who is king over all kings.
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And he is saying that I was obedient unto death and therefore have authority over all the earth. Go.
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So there is this idea of churches understanding that we must be apostolic.
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We must be a sending church. We must be sent.
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The sender is God and we have a clear mandate.
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These three things must align.
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Any one of these things is missing, we've got a problem as a church.
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And every time we are obedient to any mandate that God gives us, authority is a natural outworking.
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So let's say I'm God and this is a church that I want to send.
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When I send you out anywhere, let's say I'm sending you out to Brisbane.
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If I send you out to Brisbane as God, then what happens is when you go to Brisbane you have authority
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because I am the sender and I'm sending you with a clear mandate. Go.
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You will have authority. Anytime you are obedient to anything that God says, you have authority.
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This is why we can't choose where we go.
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This is why you can't choose what you do.
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It's super important because we live in such highly individualized Christian societies
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that we think we can choose what we do for God.
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You can choose what you do for God, but it ain't the way it works in the blueprint.
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It is God who decides where we should go.
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That's critically important because otherwise you're not, we've talked about this before,
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but otherwise you do not have the authority to step into places.
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So these three have to align.
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But if I'm obeying the sent one, and who is the sent one?
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Here's the strange thing. Who is the sent one? The sent one is Christ and the body.
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I'm sorry, the sender. My bad.
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The sender is Christ and the body.
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The sender is Christ and the body.
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When I choose to obey where Christ is sending me, and when he says go,
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that is when I discover authority. That is when I discover the extent of authority.
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So that was one of the things.
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And the next thing was sending carries a fathering spirit.
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Sending carries a fathering spirit.
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This is just a recap. Why does sending carry a fathering spirit?
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Because who does one send? One sends one's sons and daughters.
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Why? Because only sons and daughters can represent you accurately.
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Employees cannot. Hirelings cannot.
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The only ones who can accurately represent you are the ones that you have raised.
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Any questions on that one?
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That is why sending has a fathering spirit in it.
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You have to raise sons and daughters. You can only send sons and daughters.
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What kinds of sons and daughters? Sons and daughters of God and sons and daughters in the house.
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It's not one or the other. It's both.
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You must first raise sons and daughters that belong to God and reflect the father's nature.
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And then you raise sons and daughters that belong to the house
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and reflect the traits of that house or tribe.
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One first, second after.
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But sending carries a fathering spirit and produces sons and daughters of God and in the house.
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And it is critical because you will not, should not send hirelings or employees.
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You send ones that can represent you accurately.
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And that is why it is critical that we have sons and daughters of God and then of the house.
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Otherwise, one should not send because the representation will not be accurate.
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This is why Jesus did not send an angel.
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Angels were brilliant messengers who could carry a message accurately, but angels could also rebel.
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But then he sent his son.
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So the apostolic dimension or the sending dimension carries a fathering spirit.
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And once we understand that, we realize that once you go down that route, you inherit a mantle.
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You inherit a mandate.
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And you inherit mankind.
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Once your sons and daughters of God and sons and daughters in a house that he is raising with certain traits,
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you realize that three things happen.
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One, you inherit a mantle.
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Two, you inherit a mandate.
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Three, you inherit mankind, as in people that are appointed to you.
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You inherit all three.
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Only sons and daughters have inheritances of God and then of the house.
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Any questions?
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This is all stuff we've already talked about.
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So the hope is that all of us become fathers.
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It's a gender-free term.
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And we are going to be the father of all of you.
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And we are going to be the father of all of you.
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And we are going to be the father of all of you.
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And we are going to be the father of all of you.
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So we are going to become fathers.
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It's a gender-free term.
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Fathers who can see God's purposes,
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who can see people's destinies and assignments,
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who can pour themselves out for others so that these may be developed,
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who can raise ones who will do the same for others.
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So this is the expectation of all of us.
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Because there's nobody who's exempt from this really.
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So the hope is that Sheldon will become this,
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and then one day Sheldon will see God's purposes first for some.
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He'll see God's overarching purpose.
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Then he'll see God's destiny for the person in the purpose.
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Then he'll pour himself out so that that person can be raised to function like that.
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And then he'll bring them to a place where they will do it for somebody else.
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So this continuous wave is established till the end of the earth.
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It's the thing that Jesus did.
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It's actually the Master's DNA where he said,
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Do what I do, do what I do, and do greater things.
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Do greater things when I'm gone.
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That's what Jesus did.
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At present, do what I do.
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But after I'm gone, do even greater things after I'm gone.
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That should be my intent.
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Do what I do.
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And I do this well, eh?
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I do this well.
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There's evidence for it.
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Do what I do, and when I'm gone, do even greater.
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And then your turn comes and the same thing happens.
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Every subsequent generation gets more potent.
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So things don't get weaker, they get stronger.
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Any questions?
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This is the recap.
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Now we'll go into what we wanted to talk about today.
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Any questions?
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Sorry, say that again.
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Yeah, a mantle is whatever you require to function in what you've been called to.
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So Elisha had to receive a mantle.
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Once he receives a mantle, now he's able to do what Elijah...
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He's able to do much more than what Elijah did.
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Elijah is setting up a pattern that Jesus set up later.
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Do what I do, and do even greater things.
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Elisha does twice as much as Elijah.
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So mantle is the commissioning, the power, the field that is given to you to now function freely in what you've been called to.
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So we can do...Jesus said do greater than me, but that's only with the Holy Spirit.
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Only with the Holy Spirit, yeah.
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Because after he says that, he talks about how I'm not leaving you as orphans, I'm leaving the Spirit of God behind.
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And he will take off what I have and show it to you.
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He'll bring you into all truth.
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So what Jesus starts, we now take further.
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He was only in one place all the time.
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The church is everywhere.
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He could never be in Brisbane and Vancouver.
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We can.
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Nope, you can change it for...the man, man, man was working, so I thought I'd put man.
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Yeah.
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But if you put miss, sure, it's more accommodating.
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Yeah.
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But I just went for man, man, man.
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Manoj, man.
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I could put Manoj there too.
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Yeah.
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But the question, the Holy Spirit was in the Old Testament.
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Like, when Jesus left, Jesus had to leave to give us the Holy Spirit.
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Yeah.
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And the question is?
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I just find that very interesting.
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Yeah.
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And the thing is in the Old Testament, the Spirit of God could never live in anybody.
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He could live upon people, but he could never live in people because sin hadn't been paid for.
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Because he is Holy Spirit, he had to find holy places to live in.
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And because of sin, he could never live in people, he could only live upon people.
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And he could only live upon prophets, priests, and kings.
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And so now with the death of Jesus, everybody becomes prophet, priest, king.
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And he now resides in a temple that is made holy by the blood of Christ.
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And that then separates the Old Testament from the New Testament.
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That's why we have such a distinct advantage over all the guys in the Old Testament.
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So that's the recap.
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Now let's start with what we want to talk about today.
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Guys, the overarching theme in every church and in every life.
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So this is the overarching theme in every church and every life.
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It applies to all of us.
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It applies to all of us.
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Is M, M, and M, which make the Father known.
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This is your purpose.
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There cannot be any purpose that does not serve this purpose.
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Make disciples.
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Multiply churches.
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If you don't know the purpose of your life, before you ask for purpose in your life, ask if this has been done.
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Someone went up to Denzel Washington.
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I saw this on Facebook yesterday.
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Someone went to Denzel Washington and shook his hand and said,
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I feel that I must learn under you and I need to learn from you.
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You must teach me.
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And Denzel Washington says, so are you in school?
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So the guy says, yes.
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He says, finish school and we'll talk.
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As in get the basics done.
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We need to know this as our primary purpose.
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Before you ask for any purpose, any prophetic word,
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the question is, have you made this your ultimate, absolute purpose?
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And if this isn't your ultimate, absolute living, breathing purpose,
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then everything else is just pointless.
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This must be the overarching theme.
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Everything is subservient to this.
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Everything serves this.
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The overarching theme over every church, over every life is this.
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So you already have purpose.
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There's nobody in this church without purpose.
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Everyone has a purpose.
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Everything else, be it destiny, be it plans, be it prophetic, be it vocation, be it marriage,
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be it wealth, be it your jobs, be it ministry, all of it is subservient.
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It's subservient to this.
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And that is a struggle in highly individualized Christian societies in which we are.
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Everyone wants a destiny.
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I need to know my destiny.
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I need to have a plan.
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I need the prophetic.
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I need to know how to take my vocation.
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What is it?
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Who do I need to marry?
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What kind of job?
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What ministry should I do?
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All that is good, but it is all subservient to the overarching theme for every church in every life,
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which is make the Father known.
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And that you can do without a job, without being married, without money, without ministry.
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The great thing about the first three things is you need nothing.
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You just need to breathe.
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If you're breathing, you can do the first three.
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It's super important that you understand this.
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If today you feel sleepy, pinch yourself or ask someone to pinch you.
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And if no one is there, just let me know.
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I will do it for you.
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These things are less important.
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This is why you don't see Timothy going up to Paul when he is asked to do something.
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He doesn't say to Paul, you know, I don't want to do this ministry.
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I just don't sense it's my calling.
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Let me pray about it.
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Why don't I do it this way?
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This is where I really want to put my tithes and money and energy.
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Nobody does stuff like that in the New Testament.
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It's a very new modern thing.
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This is not my ministry.
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I don't want to do this.
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Since when did you think you had that right?
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It sounds terrible, but since when did you think you had that right?
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You don't.
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You think I have a right?
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I don't.
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Neither Timothy, nor Titus, nor Luke, nor Paul, nobody.
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I mean Paul had a way out.
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Agabus comes, ties his hands, and says if you go to Jerusalem, here's what awaits you.
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A guy is saying, what choice do I have in these matters?
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I saw a vision that knocked me off my horse and said to me, wherever you go, this is going to happen.
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So you might as well get used to it.
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Always remember the thing I keep going back to.
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We are trying to create a prototype or a model that can be replicated.
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And to create that, if there are kinks in what you're creating, it will hybridize over generations and only get worse.
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That's how we got where we got to.
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Because in the first 100 or 200 years, things were being done correctly.
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Somewhere something got in.
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We're going back to the way of Christ and his apostles by looking at the book of Acts, by looking at the epistles, by looking at the Gospels,
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and saying, aha, this is the right way.
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Let's now walk in it.
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These are hard things, but what a wonderful God to follow.
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It's not that God hasn't given me passions and ministry desires and giftedness that is supposed to be so drawing for me.
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It is not that he hasn't done it, but it doesn't make me now become independent.
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Having a passion for worship, I must now teach.
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Having a passion for teaching, I must now go spend time with youth.
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Having a passion for youth, I might still have to hang out with these two-year-olds who don't understand anything you say.
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We are not here to serve our passions.
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We are here to serve a greater cause.
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And that the greater cause is what I'm trying to establish today so that you go over this again and again and again and never forget this.
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I love going over this with whoever I can because every time I go over it, I understand it better.
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Any questions?
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This sounds very dictatorial.
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Yeah, you serve a king.
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I ain't that.
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You serve a king.
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You ain't serving some president.
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He's not the president of the kingdom of God.
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He's a king.
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Yes, but he's a benevolent.
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You know the word Kyrios, Lord, is actually a title associated with tyrants.
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But the reason we call Jesus Kyrios or Lord is because he's a benevolent king who lays down his life for his citizens
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and now has a right to ask of those citizens what he desires so that others may be brought into the kingdom because he's paid a price for everybody.
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So one of the things that this sending dimension or the apostolic dimension does is it cultivates.
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These words may be a little heavy, but they're actually very simple.
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Cultivates breakthrough movements.
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So Jacob, why can't you simplify it?
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Because it's not fun when it's too simple.
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Because then they're not going to be able to do it.
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So they're going to be able to do it.
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So they're going to be able to do it.
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So they're going to be able to do it.
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So Jacob, why can't you simplify it?
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Because it's not fun when it's too simple.
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Because then the teaching gets shorter.
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Cultivates breakthrough movements that configure.
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Now I get the chance to explain this and it takes up some time.
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Configure kingdom advances in Kyrios.
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What a complicated sentence.
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So one of the things that sending or apostolic dimension does when you send,
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what God does is, okay, so you guys are interested in being sent.
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You're going wherever I tell you to.
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You're being obedient. Great.
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Now let me begin to cultivate some breakthrough movements, not moments, movements through you.
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You've gotten so adept at going, therefore go and you go.
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You've gotten so adept with going that let me cultivate through you,
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breakthrough movements around the earth where you will begin to shape how the kingdom advances.
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And you will begin to shape it exactly according to the times and seasons I have for the earth.
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Paul did that. Abraham did that.
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John on the island of Patmos did it for the future.
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Things happen on the mount of transfiguration that Peter talks about much later.
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Martin Luther did that. Azusa did that.
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There are these movements that happen in perfect time because God finds the people who seem to be adept at quickly adjusting to whatever he's doing.
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And so in 2016, in 2016, Chad and I knew something was afoot.
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I knew how to prophesy what was going to happen.
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Chad knew how to structure it.
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And we've kept it quiet till about two weeks ago when we began to tell what actually God has in mind.
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And it's something I want to share with us so that we know where we are heading and so that you have a choice to go this route or not go this route.
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And there's not some kind of an organization. It's got nothing to do with organization.
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It's what God is doing presently on earth.
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Jacob, but how can you stand here and make a boast? Who are you?
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Nobody.
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So I knew how to prophesy it, but I didn't know how to structure it.
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So I knew how to tell what was going to happen and he knew how to structure it.
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So for years we've been talking about something called One Global.
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And in 2019 was when we first started saying, OK, now let's talk about it.
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So what is One Global?
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One Global is a church based.
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Some of you have heard some of this before.
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A church based apostolic missions movement shaped by principles, shaped by principles in the Book of Acts, which gives us the greater picture.
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The overall zoom out picture in the letters that Paul writes, which gives us the internal working and in the gospels, which gives us the intent of God.
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And it's important that we understand this today.
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So I'm going to take time to go over this slowly and I pray that you bear with me because if I can get it in one recording, you can hear it again and again and again.
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Then breaking it.
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This is where we are going.
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And it is important that you hear it so you decide whether you want to go here or not, or you want to opt out.
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It doesn't exempt you from the church.
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It doesn't exclude you from the church.
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It just excludes you from what God is doing.
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I would choose the first, not the second.
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The question then is, Jacob, so why should we believe that this is God and why should we believe you?
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No good reason except my track record.
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No good reason except that I lead this church and you have to look at the last 16 years and decide if this is something that is a God thing or not.
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Yeah?
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Yeah.
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So it's a church base.
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So everything that happens is based out of the church.
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It's not some organization.
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It's not some denomination.
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It is not some thing that Jacob likes doing or that Derek likes doing or a board likes doing.
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It's not led by people.
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It's not something that people say, we want this and so we do this.
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Now, it is church based.
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It is apostolic as in there's always a sending out dimension, which is why I talked about sending out for the first, about three weeks ago.
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It is apostolic.
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It's outward.
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It is a missions movement.
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So it is a movement that will always have mission at its core.
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Always a mission at its core.
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You cannot remove that from the church.
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You remove that from the church, it becomes a monstrosity.
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And it's shaped by principles.
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What principles?
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What does the book of Acts say?
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That gives you a zoom out picture.
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Ah, so this is how the church is supposed to work.
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It's going back to see what the Holy Spirit did.
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And then we go to the letters that Paul writes.
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So read the New Testament like crazy again and again and follow this pattern.
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The book of Acts, the letters that Paul wrote in particular, the gospels.
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Follow that pattern.
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And you will find, ah, so this is the pattern that Paul wrote in particular, the gospels.
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You will find, ah, so this is how it can still happen.
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Because the water that flows from the throne gets higher and higher and higher.
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As we go further and further and further.
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We are not trying to recreate the book of Acts.
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We are trying to create Acts 29, a new chapter.
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Where the water gets higher.
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Places that even Paul and Peter haven't stepped into.
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Then we look at the letters which gives us, so this is how it works.
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These are the principles.
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Let me look at the gospels.
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This is what we carry.
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You can call it any name you want.
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You can call it no name at all.
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Don't get hung up with one global.
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It just, all it means is to be able to establish the church globally.
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And that it's not Acts 29 or Acts 30 or Acts 32 or Acts 28.
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It is just the church around the world.
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Call it anything you want.
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Call it Prashanth.
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Yeah.
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Pardon?
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Emmanuel might be slightly better.
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Yeah.
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Any questions guys?
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So how does this happen?
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How can this happen?
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You build teams.
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Teams of what?
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Teams of apostolic leaders.
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Okay.
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So let's just stick there.
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You build teams.
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Teams from where?
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From within the church because it's church based.
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It's from within the church.
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Teams of what?
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Of apostolic.
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What does that mean?
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People who are ready, flexible to lay down everything to go wherever God tells them to go.
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Therefore go.
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Does that mean that today you can send Emmanuel?
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No.
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We'll have to wait to figure out who Emmanuel is, what he's good at.
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Does he need training?
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Does he not need training?
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It is a process.
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But eventually the intent is a go people.
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I mean I love the fact that Matt is going to Dayton.
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The conversation we had is, hey Matt, for the next four months be available.
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And he said sure.
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As soon as he said sure it was like okay.
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It is molded.
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Should I, should I not, should I, should I not?
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Dilla and I had a conversation where I was telling Dilla, Dilla you need to be flexible and ready.
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He said yeah I have vacations in June and July.
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He said but the problem is I've got friends coming, relatives coming, parents coming.
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I said great.
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We absolutely intend to inconvenience you during that time.
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So inconvenience is not a fact.
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I mean finding a convenient time does not apply here.
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It has to be inconvenient.
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It has to be inconvenient.
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So first thing is team.
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Second thing is apostolic.
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A people that are sent out.
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A people that are willing to go.
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A people that are obedient.
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Why?
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Because all authority in heaven and earth has been given to me.
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Therefore Mark if the Lord says to the church,
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send, set apart for me Mark and Nick to send them to Budapest.
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Then Mark and Nick do not really, they have a choice but they really do not have a choice.
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And so now to have the flexibility to go.
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So the idea of being sent out.
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Leaders.
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Leaders are basically disciples who are trained.
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Leaders are disciples who are trained.
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So there's nobody who's exempt again.
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Leaders are disciples who are trained.
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Leaders are not disciples that are gifted.
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Leaders are not disciples that have a passion.
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Leaders are not disciples that have great desire.
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Leaders are not disciples that have a prophetic word upon them.
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Leaders are disciples that have all that.
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And then are trained.
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I love what God is building guys.
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Teams of apostolic leaders.
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You had a question?
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I guess the question is why does it have to be inconvenient?
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Like in problems, especially in science, it's not as if the plants are going to be the direct steps.
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So it's not that plans are evil.
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No, plans are not evil. By inconvenience, I mean all the conditions don't have to be right.
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We have gotten so used to having
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times and plans slotted that till they all align,
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we do not find ourselves free to go. So I'll give you some of the conditions that
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have to be right if I need to go. The money has to be right.
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The flights have to be right. The timings have to be right. The weather has to be right.
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I mean it's 39 degrees in the shade in Delhi right now. Who wants to go there?
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Hell is colder. And so you
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have these things that have to line up
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to be right and that is when it is inconvenient.
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So we don't have to deliberately make things inconvenient
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for people but we cannot wait for all the conditions to be right.
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Proverbs what? Ecclesiastes 10.
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One who watches for all the wind and the conditions to be right will never go?
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Out. Yeah.
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So both were Solomon so it's his fault.
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So teams of apostolic leaders
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teams of apostolic leaders who are on the move
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who are on the move
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with a clear
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unswerving mission.
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Yeah. Guys let me go back to what Jill is saying.
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It is not to make things inconvenient for people is not a
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God thing. But to go in inconveniences is a
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God thing. Yeah. I mean the
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guy is plowing with 12 yokes of oxen at least let him finish plowing.
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Let the guy bury his father before he comes. Let the property
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be divided. Now those are the things that Jesus doesn't have time to wait for.
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I mean you want to get married?
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Great go get married but after that join us immediately
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Manoj. And who else is getting married?
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Who might announce it next week?
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There's always a chance right?
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Okay so it's
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on the move as in
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ascending out is always a move. It is
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not location in one place. Guys there is no
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growth there is no growth without unfamiliarity. There is no growth
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without unfamiliarity. You begin to stagnate when things get familiar.
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We talked about this when we talked about thresholds. There is no growth without
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unfamiliarity. Unfamiliarity causes me to now depend
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on God like I have never depended before and that's what makes
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growth happen.
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And with a clear unswerving mission we'll talk about what that unswerving mission is.
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So what does this team comprise of? What does this team look like? What does an
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apostolic team look like? If you look at the book of Acts we'll find
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that it looks like there will be some apostle types.
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Apostle types are basically those that are architects and
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pioneers and who have a track record.
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There are messengers who
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carry messages to people.
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Phoebe was one of the messengers. Luke sometimes
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carried messages. Timothy carried messages. It was interchangeably.
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It was not that this was their only job. Then there are Timothy like
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guys who were sent to Ephesus to set
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things right. There were Titus like guys who were sent to reestablish order that
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was lost in Crete. There were Aquila, Priscilla types who
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were businessmen who would go from city to city starting businesses and
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establishing home churches in Ephesus, in Rome, in Corinth.
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They would go, they would start businesses. They would open their homes. They would have people come in.
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And then they would start a house church, hand it over to Apollos and then move on to another city.
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There were Luke types
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who would journey with Paul to different places.
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There were Phoebe's. Phoebe was quite a rich woman who was
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a benefactor but was also someone who took messages and carried it to Rome.
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You read about her in Rome in verse 16. There were
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ones who worked in Herod's palace.
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There were people who had regular vocations and jobs. There were
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people like Aristobulus and people like that who had
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who were wealthy and who had businesses.
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So this is a team that is willing to move
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and is made up of different people with different abilities
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and some of them are just called co-workers.
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That's all they were called, co-workers. So it's made up of
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apostle types who were architects and pioneers and then the rest.
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And it is interchangeable. One becomes the other.
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Any questions on that?
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So this is not some special type. Yes, at the beginning there will be
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the ones that are architects and pioneers that have the ability to go break open
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places and who have a track record for it.
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The last one is Aristobulus.
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So Jacob in this case
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would you be... Yeah, I would put Chad and me in here.
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And again, so Jacob, are you saying you are this?
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I'm saying that I function in it really well.
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I like being called Jacob. I really like that name. That's all that
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I need. It's a great title, Jacob. It's a nice ring to it.
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Do you want to say it together? No, I'm kidding.
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But it's what you function in. It's how you function in it that matters.
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One can have any title and not function in it.
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Or one can function in it and have a track record of it.
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Some of these teams will be
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locally focused, as in they'll be focused on Vancouver.
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But they'll be willing to move from Surrey to Wally.
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They'll be willing to move from Vancouver to Burnaby. They'll be living in
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Vancouver and they'll set up their piano business in Burnaby or New West.
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Hint, hint.
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So they are locally focused but they're globally engaged
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with all the guys who are going out. Some of these teams
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will be like that. And then there will be some teams that are globally focused.
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As in they're always looking at which country next.
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But they're locally engaged. As in they'll do
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everything to strengthen the church in Vancouver.
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One is not better than the other. One cannot exist without the other.
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One is not better than the other. One cannot exist without the other. And these are not types
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or categories that you're stuck in. It is just free flow.
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Philip was a guy who was happy with his daughters in Caesarea.
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And then he finds himself in an exodus. Talking to
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the financial minister of Queen Candice of Ethiopia.
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And changes an entire country.
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So, and the crazy thing
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is there's nobody here who's exempt from this. No age, no color, no education,
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no marriage, no single, no whatever. Nothing exempts you from this.
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Everybody is included in this grand plan that God has.
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Why do you think
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Jeremy has to leave?
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Jeremy has to go to Toronto. Whatever he needed to be
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trained for, he's trained for. God will send him.
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What do these teams do?
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Very simple.
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They plant churches.
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They establish churches.
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They multiply churches.
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They make the Father known. Go back to the Father.
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They make the Father known. Go back to the Father.
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They make the Father known. Go back to the 3Ms.
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Please remember this guys. You lose the 3Ms,
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you're all about yourself.
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Oh, I was called to lead worship. In leading worship
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make the Father known. In leading worship make disciples. In leading worship
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multiply churches. Otherwise all you are is a musician.
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Who happens to be singing in church.
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Interested in young people?
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Great. Your heart must go for them.
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I'm happy for your heart but please go back to the main thing.
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Make disciples. Multiply churches. Make the Father known.
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You don't need any skills for these three things if you're a Christian.
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I wish I knew this 15 years ago.
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We'd have been so far ahead of where we are.
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Guys, this is why
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now people that taught us are coming here to learn.
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This is what these teams do. They plant churches.
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They establish churches. They multiply churches across the earth. So how many such teams do we need?
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How about a thousand by 2050?
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At least a thousand by 2050. At least a thousand such teams.
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So live long.
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2050 is how many years away?
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Oh my lord, I'll be old.
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Yeah.
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By 2050, a thousand such teams. How old, Prashant?
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You won't be on my team for sure.
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Yeah. No, so how about a thousand teams?
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You know, one of the images... Do you know how many satellites are
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circulating around the earth right now? 8200 satellites.
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Fly any higher and you'll bump into them.
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Just look at that.
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That's what it looks like. 8261 satellites.
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Last year alone, 1800 satellites were sent up.
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This is what I mean. Thousands of apostolic teams right across the earth.
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What are they doing? They're doing a very simple thing.
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Establishing simple churches. This is why I said
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a breakthrough movement in the timing of God
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no longer through massive mammoth denominational
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institutional structures, but through simple people.
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Continuously around the earth.
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Not a nation spread. Nobody going in as a
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pastor or a bishop or a this or a that.
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You think
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this is not possible in 50 years? I'm telling you, a thousand teams is just
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such a conservative estimate. Because the Holy Spirit is much smarter,
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much bigger, much more powerful.
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That's what it looks like.
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That's what it looks like. There's another image that I had of
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just the same thing.
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You don't even know what these satellites are doing. Half the time they're listening to your conversation.
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But hundreds of them, 8200 of them going around the earth in different
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orbits continuously. You think people will escape this? It's impossible.
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What are they trying to escape the love of God? What will they
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not be able to escape the love of God? Who's going to do this?
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Teams like this made up of ordinary people like us. This is where
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this church is going guys. This does not exclude you from church
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if you don't want this. But it does exempt you from a beautiful thing that God is doing
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on the earth. And as I talk you will see that this is not an acts 29 thing.
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That's why we're calling it One Global. Spoke about it
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two weeks ago for the first time in Dubai. And thought okay acts 29 must
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hear this now. It's been in the making for years.
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What's a mission? We said unswerving mission.
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What's the unswerving mission? Unswerving mission.
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Why did I put unswerving? Because we cannot forget this. We forget this we'll have
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trouble. Unswerving mission to progress
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the good news. To progress
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the good news. What do you mean progress? As in let it advance. To advance the good news.
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To progress the good news. It must advance.
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To progress the good news. Good news of
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what? That Jesus has made peace between God and man.
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And God is no longer angry. He has paid the price and he wants you back.
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How? What is the unswerving mission? How do we go about it?
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Again goes back to the same thing again and again and again. Plant
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churches. We'll talk about what kind of churches.
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Establish them in the teaching. Establish them in the teaching. Why?
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Because that's the only way you bring people into maturity.
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Establish them in teaching. Then do what? Raise elders
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and entrust these churches to elders. And then do what?
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Then multiply and do it again somewhere else.
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This is the unswerving mission. It is the mission
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of Jesus. There's no tampering with this. You don't have the right to tamper
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with it because you haven't spilled blood for it.
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Plant churches. Who?
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Pastors? No. Us.
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How? Through the whole idea of the apostolic team thing that I was talking about.
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Plant churches establish people
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that you rally together in teachings. Why? Because it's the only way to bring people into maturity.
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You mature them by teaching them the things that Jesus taught. What
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do you then do? You don't hold on to it. You entrust it to elders. How
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old are elders? Sometimes 25. What is older
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about them? Nothing. You entrust it to
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elders. Why? So that you can move on.
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Why do you think Manoj's parents want to get him married?
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So they can move on. Why do you think Derek's parents want to get both the boys
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married and one is still stuck so that they can move on?
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I hope you have some announcement next week.
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No, but guys, guys, one week
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may be too short for him to get this together. Give me some more time.
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Well, I don't want to say anything. Mom's the word.
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Oh my God, now it's on.
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Sorry.
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So entrust to elders so that you can move on. And move on to do what?
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Multiply more. Multiply more. Who's keeping count?
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Nobody is, really. We shouldn't keep count.
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Multiply churches. So what kind of
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churches? What kind of churches? Simple churches.
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What do you mean simple churches?
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So here are some of the qualities of simple
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churches. It's a net.
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It's a net of simple
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churches. It's a net. It's not a network, it's a net.
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A net is, it's not like some organized network. It's a net.
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Two, a simple church is made up of two or three families.
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Two or three families.
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That's what you begin with.
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Can you imagine how beautiful this will be? Two or three
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families. Meeting where?
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Anywhere.
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This would be great. What's the composition?
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They're heterogeneous. They're neither
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Indian nor Chinese nor Caucasian. They're mixed.
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Rich, poor, old, young.
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Grandmothers, granddaughters.
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That's the net.
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Criss-crossing the earth. Everywhere you'll find them. Why?
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Because we are everywhere. Pastors are few. Church planters are few.
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Mission organizations are few. Money is little.
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Constantly begging for money to do missions. But when you do it
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anywhere in your house
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house church leaders need to think along these lines.
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You will have great pride in what you're trying to do.
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It's not an Acts 29 thing anymore.
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So
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it's two or three families.
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It's anywhere.
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It's a mix of people.
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It can meet anywhere. At its core
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DNA is that of mission.
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It multiplies.
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People that are there always leave.
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And it expands globally.
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So what number are we looking at by 2050?
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A very conservative number. How about 100,000?
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Simple churches. That's very little. You're only talking about
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half a million people. Like there's eight billion people around. Half a billion is
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so easy for the Holy Spirit to do. He used to do three thousand, five thousand a day.
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And when he used to do it, this was the construct.
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This was the framework in which it was established.
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If this building goes away in July
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praise the Lord, we may have to completely
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retool and we'll have a whole lot of money to spend.
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Am I desiring it? No, I like the building. But am I holding onto it? Absolutely not.
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Not calling the landlord to renegotiate. Not calling the
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landlord to see if we get this after July. Let the lines fall in pleasant
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places.
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So sit on these pews,
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enjoy them for another three months because we don't know how much longer we'll have this.
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This is what simple churches look like. Go ahead, Nick.
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A question that's been on my mind since you started.
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Yeah, I could see it written on your brow for the last twenty minutes.
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I thought when's he going to ask?
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I don't know if I have the time to answer
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because I'm waiting for you to answer.
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I don't understand number six. Why is it like
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you said multiply means people constantly leave. And then what's the
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expanding global leave?
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When you get to a place where you know now enough
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to raise another group of people, you need to leave and
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replicate what you have been taught. And when
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someone does it in Malaysia and someone does it in Indonesia and someone does it in South Africa,
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now it begins to spread all around the globe.
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Yeah, you do it here.
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Unless you're called to some other place. But others are doing it in other
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parts of the world. So it keeps expanding globally. And that is part of what I need
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to do. I need to go to Brisbane. I need to go to Sydney. I need to go to these Budapest
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so that when Ukraine opens, we can set something else up there. That is
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something that I specifically know I have to do. And then there are others now from the
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church who are joining me in doing it. So that, like the net, there'll
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be multiple places where this is established and begins to spread.
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The Holy Spirit's doing it. So it's not something you have to do, but it's that he's doing the whole thing
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Guys, I don't want to take away anything from the Holy Spirit. He's the one who actually does it.
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No man can convert any other. But he does it through people.
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So we've got to get involved with him. So when we say the Holy Spirit does it, it's good.
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But the Holy Spirit only, not only, the Holy Spirit primarily does it
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through the church. Primarily. He can do it without any help.
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But he chooses to do it through the church. So we are involved.
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I mean, he could do Wally all by himself. But unless Mohini takes someone home,
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that person will have to be covered by rain, wind, and sleet
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with the Holy Spirit.
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Ideally, if we had Anne and Kamal and
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Phoebe, Sheldon, and Jane,
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and Jill and Prashant,
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that would be fine. It has to be a mix. When we say two or three families,
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what we mean is let there be families, let there be young people, old people, let it be a mix.
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Let it not be just single people.
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There's that song, right? No, I won't go there.
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No, no.
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Any questions?
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Any questions?
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You can pursue...
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If we stop looking at demographics and started looking at
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people, it would be easier.
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There might be times when God says, go to the Gentiles, go to the Jews,
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but what if it is a city you are in, or a nation you're going to?
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So I'm not saying don't do it. I'm just saying try to mix it up.
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Let no one be excluded.
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But there will be times when God will specifically say, I want you to go to the Jews only.
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Okay, yeah, I was just wondering
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when we're going out ministering, should we
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kind of leave that notion of, okay, God's calling to this particular type of...
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No, seasons change, right?
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So there will be a time when it will be, let's help the people who are helpless.
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Then there will be a time, let's help everybody who
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is doing really well, but are completely bankrupt inside.
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So let things shift. God leaves no Pharisee out,
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no tax collector out.
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So times change. So right now you might be doing this, while tomorrow
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maybe Aaron will start working with accountants in Wall-E.
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Because accountants
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need him as much as others.
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Right? Accountants need God, right?
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Okay, just checking.
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Just checking.
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So even though it's simple,
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it's still pretty complex, eh? Why is it complex?
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Because there is no organization.
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There is no up-level marketing.
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There is no up-level tithing.
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Everything is relational.
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It's not centralized.
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Nobody owns it.
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It's not mine.
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Nothing is exclusive. So just as we are talking,
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I got a text message from the person who takes care of the church in
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Australia saying the times that they meet in Sydney.
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And the fact is, we don't own it, we don't command them what to do,
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we resource them. And yet they aren't separate, they are connected.
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And so this is why it gets very complex.
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If it was organized and structural and everything has its place,
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you can send dictates saying, do this, do that. This is not like that.
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Everything is relational. Things get really complicated when things are relational.
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That's why policy and structure really help be unrelational.
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And yet, despite all this,
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there are common resources that we share.
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There are common resources that we share. In terms of money,
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in terms of material. There's the emptying of our pockets and our
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lives. Hey, Sheldon decided
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at some point that, Jacob, I feel that every time you go to New York, I will be coming with you.
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I'm not paying him for it, huh? And he doesn't own Air Canada yet.
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So he's paying for it. And he's got a wife and kids.
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There is an emptying that comes with missions.
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There is an emptying that comes with missions.
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There is an emptying that comes with missions.
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This is why it's complex.
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Because people are going to different places. Heidi is going to Budapest.
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We're not paying her for it.
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But because she's a treasurer, you never know what's happening.
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But we are not paying for it.
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Sorry, Heidi. Just take that shot.
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There's an emptying that happens. And there's strategic expansion.
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It's not nilly-nilly, sorry, strategic expansion.
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It's not, ah, let's go to Budapest. I believe it's a good place for a holiday.
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No. It is strategic. And it is orderly.
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When order is broken, issues have to be dealt with.
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See, it is relational.
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It is complex. You have to bring it up and down.
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So, and then there will be times when there are issues.
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Issues will have to be dealt with.
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There's no policy. It's relational. Doctrine will have to be watched.
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And guarded. If doctrine goes wonky, we'll have to do something about it.
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There will be warfare with powers. Because if this is a new move of God,
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as I absolutely know it is, then you think it will be unopposed?
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Sometimes we'll have to meet like the Jerusalem Council met
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to discuss what needs to be done, given the issues that are at stake.
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Other times there will be discipline that will be required, where someone may have committed adultery
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and needs to be now disciplined. Other times there will be letters that have to be written,
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like Paul used to write letters because of issues. Other times people would have to go and visit.
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Why? Because the church is either doing really well or not doing really well.
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This is why it becomes complex. Even though we're establishing simple
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churches, my prayer is that one day everybody
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sitting in this room will be able to establish a simple church of two to three families.
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Because what do you need? We talked about this long ago.
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What do you need? You need only four things, right?
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Zeal for God, purity of life, ability to convey what you are taught accurately,
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and good homes. So that your life will not be
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disreputable. That's all you need. That's all that Paul asks.
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Who doesn't qualify?
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Can anyone fail to qualify? All these are absolutely attainable
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ways.
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What's so different about this thing is in Acts 13
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you find Antioch was a church.
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Antioch was a church that sent people out.
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We are not talking about Antioch. We are talking about
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not one church sending people out. We are talking about from everywhere
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that people were sent out.
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We are not talking about Antioch. We are talking about
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from everywhere
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to everywhere. As in every church
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that is established now sends out people.
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From everywhere to everywhere. It's not Acts 29 sending
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people out. It is every such simple church
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sending people out. This is how we get 100,000, 200,000, 300,000.
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Where Heidi's
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House Church now sends people out. Because it is within the
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overarching theme. It is still connected to the things we are doing but they sent.
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Then Derek's Wally sent. Then New York
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sent. Then Sheldon's group sent.
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It still is strategic but everybody sent. It's no longer centralized.
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It's not Antioch sending out a Paul and a Barnabas. It is from everywhere
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to everywhere. It's absolutely doable.
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So Antioch
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is the prototype church in the early 80s?
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Antioch was...this is how Antioch started. But some of the guys who did differently
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was Ephesus. Just put up that picture. Ephesus was
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different. From Ephesus there were all these churches that we read about.
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Both Paul and John paid so much attention to
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these churches. John wrote most of his letters to these churches. Paul established
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these churches and kept doing tours of these churches.
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All of them happened from Ephesus. But the beautiful thing is
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so an Acts 29 or a New Life Assemblies of God in Chennai can
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establish all these but Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia,
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Laodicea, Colossus, all of them start sending their own people.
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They don't come back to Acts 29 and say, you sent. No, no, no, no. Now each church
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begins to send from everywhere to everywhere. It begins to spread. This is
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how spontaneous expansion happens. This is no longer something that
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is centralizing only from Acts 29. No. There's
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still a strategy but it begins to spread. 100,000 is so easy.
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2050 is so far away.
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Now you see why two families in Atlanta are
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worth visiting.
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Now you see why two families in Saudi Arabia are worth
-
visiting even if it's risky. Now you see why four families in New York
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are worth visiting again and again and again at cost without taking a dime
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from Acts 29. Now you see why it is important
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to go and connect with two people in Budapest because Ukraine is going to open
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and then that country will begin to see what needs to be seen.
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It is so worth it. Now you understand why one and a half
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families in Brisbane is worth visiting
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because God only knows how many will go out from Brisbane to Puffer, New Guinea
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and a few places around there.
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So be it three in London, seven in Australia, four in New York
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or two in Atlanta. It's so worth it.
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It's so worth it.
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And Acts 29 has been established enough now to run without a problem.
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Guys, please understand, I really don't think much of the Sunday
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service.
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This is not our main event. This is the main event.
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If we
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reduce this to two hours on a Sunday morning,
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that is terrible.
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We meet like this to talk about these things.
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That's all. And yeah, it's good to hear him
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play the sax and it's good to hear Miguel drum and
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Sheldon decide at some point at the third song that he's going to join in and stuff like that.
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Yeah.
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I told Jane when she was in Bahrain, hey Jane, I just wanted
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you to know that your days of leading worship are over.
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So she's not going to lead in worship anymore. She's got other things to do.
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We need to keep changing up. So Tony, you lead now. So is it possible
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that the quality of worship may drop a little? Might.
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So what? Just because it isn't
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as, some songs are not as good as the last person
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doesn't mean squat because tomorrow he'll probably outdo
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Jane outdo, Jason outdo me.
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And then just when he's reached his peak,
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Tony goes and Anilay takes over.
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Anilay just decided to go join the old church.
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Yeah. So it's this continuous wave of replacements
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because there are other things to do.
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I mean
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I know Derek teaches well, but really
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I'm slightly better. But it's okay.
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Oh, ha ha.
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There are a lot of ohs going on today.
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Jacob, you are so proud.
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Remember pride comes before a fall.
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So look at, look at, I'm just calling out
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some simple names. Look at how we are already processing things.
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There are churches in Vancouver, Vernon, New York, Los Angeles,
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Nashville, Dayton, Atlanta, Bristol, London, Bahrain,
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Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Chennai, Pune, Weizang, Mumbai,
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Manipal, Varanasi. Varanasi, that couple has planted 800 churches.
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How does one couple plant 800 churches?
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Very simple. They go to villages,
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they start praying for weeks on end. After they finish praying
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someone will come with a snake bite and they'll say, can your God heal the snake bite?
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And they pray and the snake bite gets healed and the family comes to the Lord and gets baptized.
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And now you have a village in which there is one family that has begun to open
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their home for a church. Over the last 12, 13 years
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they've established 800 churches. I'm, when I meet them,
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they ask me to pray for them and prophesy on them. I'm thinking about
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man, I should be sitting at your feet and learning how to do this instead of you telling me to prophesy on you.
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I met them a month ago.
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Varanasi,
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Shillong, Mongolia, Malaysia, Indonesia, Sydney, Brisbane,
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Soon, Ecolet, Antarctic, Budapest, Dublin, Paris, the US
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Eastern Seaboard, 13 cities, Goa, Mangalore, Surat, Hyderabad, other places.
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This is just reeling off a few names.
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You have to go to Brisbane?
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Yeah, yeah, you should go. This is a great day in the middle of the service.
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We have to go to Brisbane. Off you go.
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Oh, Brisbane by Richmond. Father, we bless them as they go. We pray your protection upon
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Kamal and Ann. I pray such amazing health for Kamal.
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Such amazing health. Not a step faltering. No
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complications. Enjoying the flight and Ann and everything else.
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We pray for Ann, Father. We pray that you reward her faith. We pray that they meet the guys
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in Brisbane. And if you permit, Father, that I would meet them too. So we bless them and we
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send them out now. In Jesus' name, Amen.
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Bye, guys.
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So guys, this is what you're a part of.
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This is what you're a part of. A greater cause than a Sunday service.
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A greater cause than Acts 29. A greater cause than your ministry.
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This is greater than Acts 29. Acts 29 should take a back seat to this.
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This is how house church leaders must think.
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This is why your lives must blaze. Once your lives blaze, God is able to use it
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better. This is why you must capture the vision. This is why you
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must be loyal to this vision. This is why you need to be flexible. This is why
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you need to wrap your work, your family, your money, your possessions
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around this one thing that Christ and the church are doing. This is why we need to do this.
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Let me conclude. And I really mean conclude. Guys, this is being
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fiercely resisted by powers, eh? But because of Christ
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and his joy, you don't know the spiritual and material costs that Chad
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and I have paid. Because of Christ and because of the joy
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he brings. But this is fiercely being resisted over the last couple of years.
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And when you step up, there will be fierce
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resistance.
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Till you step up, you won't know.
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Physically, materially.
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It's easy to sit in my armchair and think that if I
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say the name of Jesus Christ, everything will be still. Everything is still
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when you say the name of Jesus Christ after they oppose you. But you will not know
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their opposition till you step in. Armchair
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rebuking is super easy, man.
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It's like telling the Canucks how to play, sitting in my armchair
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watching TV.
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Vivek, you're also in the same boat as
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Aaron and Evan. Manchester
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United. I feel so bad for them.
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This is already being fiercely resisted by powers. But because of Christ
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and his joy, you will pay a spiritual and material cost. I have,
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I know Chad has. And if you don't understand this, guys, here's the other thing,
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if you don't understand this and embrace it deeply enough,
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you will not be able to participate in this.
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If you don't understand this and embrace it deeply enough,
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if you don't understand it beyond skin deep, and if you don't
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embrace it, not only will you not participate in it, you will resist it.
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To go over it again and again. To understand that this is what
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God is doing, not with us, with the church
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and the Bible, that this is what acts, the book of Acts was made up of.
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That this is what I rally around.
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This is not an Acts 29 thing. This is not a Jacob or Chad thing.
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Give it whatever name you want. Call it Prashanth or Emmanuel. But it is this commitment
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that, Father, this is what I will now embrace. Because if you do not
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embrace it, let me assure you, you will resist it.
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You will resist it not by necessarily speaking up. In some places
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people will begin to speak up saying, we don't want this. You will resist it
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sitting there. You will resist it with your attitude. Please don't do that.
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Please don't do that. Embrace it.
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Yeah, there is a spiritual cost.
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And a material cost. I mean, spiritual cost can sometimes
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be a task that you can't even figure out why
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your ear is swelling up like a cauliflower. Or your foot has suddenly gone lame.
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Or your body is breaking out into rashes. Or there's disruption
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in your finances, in your family.
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Or you find bullets in your car.
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Or you find demonic beings in your room
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when you are living a pure, wholesome life.
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Or attacks upon your family.
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And then because of Christ and because of the joy
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he brings in serving him, you take authority over it.
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And it ends.
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Every Old Testament and New Testament story gives us
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evidence that things are resisted but things are overcome.
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If you don't understand it
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beyond skin deep and embrace it, you will resist it.
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Here's the last three sentences, guys. When heaven releases something new.
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When heaven releases something... I think I'll write this down.
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When heaven releases something new.
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Thanks for waiting. I know I needed to wrap this up.
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So thanks for waiting. When heaven releases something new.
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If you don't grasp, if you don't grasp it
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and embrace it, or embrace it, if you don't grasp it
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and fight for it
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in the heavenlies, as in in prayer,
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in the heavenlies,
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it will translate
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into fault finding
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and blame game here on earth.
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You know, it would be easy
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for me to find fault with Manoj over the next one month.
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It would be easy that he doesn't turn up on a Sunday.
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It would be easy that he forgets things.
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But if I don't grasp the fact that he has a wedding in a month
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and there's a greater cause, there's a greater thing that is happening with him
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that may have him forget little things, I will start finding fault with him.
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I'll blame him.
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It's a very crass example to this. Once we see the greater cause
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we will be less offended.
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Once we see the greater cause, you offending me, I'll have to
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it may strike, but I'll have to.
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You're far more valuable than for me to be offended by the little thing you do.
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I have to keep hoping that this is okay. There's far too much in this person.
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I've got to get over this offense. Because there's a far greater cause.
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Far greater cause.
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So if we don't grasp, when heaven releases something new
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if you don't grasp it and fight for it in the heavenlies, it will translate into
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fault finding and the blame game here on earth.
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Because people will let you down. But there's a far greater cause, man.
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When something is happening in Jeevan's life
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I call him and he doesn't pick up the phone or I ask for something and he doesn't do it
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I know there's something happening in his life. I've got to give it a rest
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because there's a bigger thing than responding
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to Jacob's call.
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It's literally like that. There's a much greater cause here, guys.
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And so avoid
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any fiefdoms, cliques.
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I'm the Apollos type, I'm the Derek type, I'm the Jacob type.
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Avoid individualized offenses.
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These are little foxes that will destroy the greater cause.
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This is what you're signing up for, guys.
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Any questions?
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Please don't look at time and say
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I'll skip the questions if you have questions asked because you're doing this for the benefit of all those who will be listening to this.
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Yeah.
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No. No. I'm saying that
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every time you're doing this, you're not doing it for the benefit of all those who are listening to this.
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No. I'm saying that every church is supposed to be apostolic.
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Apostolic. Apostolic is completely different
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from apostles. Apostolic is this idea that every church
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goes back to this. The apostolic dimension is
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ascending of the church. The church becomes a sent one.
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By the sender, God, with a clear mandate.
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Every church is supposed to be like this.
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I'm not going back and saying this is the only thing we will be.
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We cannot afford to be anything else.
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Yeah. So all of us are not apostles.
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I was going to ask, how does that tie into
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Ephesians 4 and 5? Yeah. It doesn't.
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Because some are called to be prophets, some teachers, some evangelists.
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Those are maybe guys who, for the lack of a better word,
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are full-time ministers of the gospel. But most of us aren't.
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Most of us aren't. There's only one guy who's getting paid here for what he does.
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And he does half of what the other house church leaders does and gets paid big bucks.
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So most of us won't get paid or won't get any of that stuff.
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Bigger mansions in heaven maybe. But not here on earth.
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So the point
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being
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we are talking about apostolic, not about apostles.
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And everyone gets the privilege to be
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apostolic. Because that's the only thing
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Jesus came to do. He was sent by the Father.
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So in his case, he was sent. So he became the sent one.
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Which is what the word apostolos means.
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He became the sent one. Who was the sender? God the Father.
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What did he have? He had a very clear mandate.
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Now, he's doing the same. He said to me, as the Father has sent me,
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I send you. And now it becomes us, the entire
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church, going out the same way. And in the process, you may have an assignment.
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He may have an assignment. We may have an assignment.
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You may make up a team. You may make up another team. You may go to Budapest.
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They may go to Hungary. Or same place. Sorry. You may go to Budapest.
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You may go to Bulgaria. Different teams going different
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places. Meanwhile, some will make sure that things are established locally.
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That monies are coming in so that the monies can be
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taken and sent to Bulgaria and sent to Budapest. So that a
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granary is continuously being built. Every house
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church leader begins to think like this. Any house church leader that really gets this,
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will start cultivating people that can be sent from anywhere to everywhere.
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Suddenly, Mae is looking at her group and saying, oh my God, I was complaining
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about too many people in my group. This is great. I got people to send and I'll still have
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more than what Chelten has.
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Any other questions? Does that explain it?
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Any other questions, guys?
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No. No. It can keep interchanging.
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Because it's a team, right? So you're not trying to create like a Manchester
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United or a Manchester City. It's a team where players get traded.
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Yeah. So that's a beautiful thing about
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this. Today, Heidi might be going to Budapest and you guys might be going to...
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So you take a person who knows that part of Europe or speaks German because
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Budapestians speak... Budapestians doesn't sound right.
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Hungarian's speak German. No, they don't. They speak Hungarian. But the point is
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it begins to trade all over. It is seamless, guys. The one word I forgot to
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use is seamless movement across the board. Seamless.
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It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter whether you're white, brown, whatever.
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You go to any place in every place where God is
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asking us to be sent. And this is why it is good
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to lay down our individualized choices.
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I will only go here. This is my ministry.
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Perish it, man. It ain't your call.
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So take a visit of yours. No. It is God's. But
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as the one who leads this church, yep, I might have
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to convey it to you.
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And don't feel bad if you can't
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go out because someone has to
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take care of things locally. Someone has to take care of things globally.
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But nothing is categorical, I mean categorized. Everything is fluent.
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Any other question? Or any question to question the question?
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Go ahead, Nick. Matt, go ahead.
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Yeah.
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No. If everything goes on the plan, there will be new people coming in.
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Because the idea is
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we start here in Jerusalem and it continuously expands, right?
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What's Emmanuel doing here? What's Star doing here?
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Someone had to... It's not like that.
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Someone had to... It's not like there are new believers or anything, but people will
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keep coming in. Emmanuel loves this so much he's not going back. He's coming back again
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for the rest of his life. Yeah.
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If Star doesn't go to Nigeria, she'll be back here.
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Yeah, really, no, I'm just trapping Emmanuel.
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But... So there's a continuous inflow, just as
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much as there is an outflow.
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So what's the end game
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of the little churches that move? The simple two or three
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families? Is the end game to come eventually?
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Give me the names of three of your friends who are not believers. Just random.
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Nolan, Siddhar, and
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Michelle. Okay. There's no way
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any of us are going to get to them unless you get to them.
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So you now begin to bring them in, either into the place
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that you already go to, or you go and visit them. And now you've got two or three families
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of Nolan, that person and that person, who now begin to learn about
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your God. Or you bring them to the house
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which you attend, which is I think Evans, right? And so
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that's taken care of. And then Lorian
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does it with people at Lufthansa. Marcus does it with people at
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the place he works. Sean does it, and it begins to spread. So the end game is
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ordinary people being ordinary with an extraordinary
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God and drawing other ordinary people into his arms.
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And when this begins to happen all over the world, it gets crazy.
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Which part are you missing?
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I can see the question on your brow again.
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Does it end up with?
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Meaning?
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No, two or three families. I think the most anybody can do is about ten or twelve families.
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You can't do more than that.
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Oh, the end goal is not to become a pastor of the other church.
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The end goal is to raise someone else who can replicate it, and you move on and do something
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else.
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It's like you said, it's a network. People in churches don't ever meet each other.
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There's no hubs, they don't go down, whatever. It's just them being Christians doing this thing.
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There's more framework
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to that, but we can begin with this idea of simple churches.
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Two or three families that get together anywhere with the core
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DNA of mission, relational. Those points I mentioned.
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Begin there. Let's begin. Guys, the easiest
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way to do this is this.
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Start there.
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One of the ways we complicate things is by heading eight steps
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down, when all we need to do is take the
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first step. Can I get two or three families
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together, and already begin to deposit in them the things I've already
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learned? Can I ask you a question, and this is such a dumb question.
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Is there anybody here who cannot
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teach what you have already learned to someone else? There's nobody sitting
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here right now who can't do that. Everybody in this room is capable.
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Nobody here is not capable.
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The hard thing is to get two or three families. You don't know how hard it is to get two or
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three families. It is so hard.
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So difficult to get two or three families to commit to you. And commit
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not to some kind of meeting. Commit to learning.
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It is so difficult. So difficult.
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That's all. So Nick,
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don't even go down, skip point one.
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Just focus on point two, and we are fine.
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When we finish point two, then we can go down the list.
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The way to complicate everything is to think the whole thing through.
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I find it so difficult to get two or three families together on a consistent basis. Not for a meeting,
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but to learn and to grow. I find it so difficult.
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Prashanth finds it relatively easy.
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I don't know how.
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I find it very difficult.
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Any other questions?
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Okay.
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Let's have Matt come and conclude.
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Just close in prayer, Matt.
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Highly inconvenient. On the spot. But grab a mic
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so it can be recorded.
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I have no idea. However you want to conclude
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what you've heard, feel free.
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Just grab a mic though. Or you can stand there.
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Sheldon, just turn it on.
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Hi.
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So, Jacob.
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Jacob is saying
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don't just sit there. That's my summary.
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What he's saying.
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I'm going to get my version of what he's saying.
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Yep.
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Church is about going out and bringing people to God.
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The Sunday service is
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not about everyone sitting here every morning, every week,
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doing the same things over and over again.
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It's about getting up and going and doing.
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And
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so church isn't going away, but
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church is where nothing happens. That's what should go away.
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I think that's what Jacob was trying to say.
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Thanks, Matt. Bless you.
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Alrighty, guys.
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Feel free to get up whenever you want to.
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Thank you.
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for watching.