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Hebrews 5 - 12/14/25 - Pastor Charlie Branch

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  1. Welcome to [music] Meadows Baptist

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  7. join Pastor Charlie Branch with a word

  8. from God.

  9. Just praying about the

  10. service today, Sunday school time and uh

  11. what the Lord would have us to say. Felt

  12. God lead me to this passage of scripture

  13. and [snorts] u

  14. I want to encourage us this morning and

  15. I want to say that on the precipice of

  16. this this this lesson this morning could

  17. be a very discouraging lesson but I'll

  18. say this for those of us that's this

  19. morning it's not discouraging. This is

  20. preventative maintenance. And uh I want

  21. to say thank you for being here this

  22. morning. Uh every one of you. And I I

  23. don't ever want to be, you know, we we

  24. people preachers talk about they'll

  25. preach on Sunday night and Wednesday

  26. night and they'll preach about all the

  27. people that's not there. And I don't

  28. want to be that way. Never want to be

  29. like that. And I always want to preach

  30. to the ones that's here because I can't

  31. help the ones that ain't. Amen. And uh I

  32. want to share this truth with you and

  33. try to encourage you uh with this

  34. thought this morning. And like I said, I

  35. want you to see this from positive

  36. perspective as preventative maintenance.

  37. All right. And uh we all have this a

  38. little bit in our life. And so I pray

  39. that God will help us with it. Hebrews

    Hebrews 5 chapter mention

  40. chapter 5 11. Hebrews 5 verse number 11.

  41. The Bible says, "Of whom we have many

  42. things to say and hard to be uttered."

  43. Speaking of Christ, seeing ye are dull

  44. of hearing. For when for the time you

  45. ought to be teachers, you have need that

  46. one teach you again, which be the first

  47. principles of the oracles of God, and

  48. are become such as have need of milk,

  49. and not of strong meat. For everyone

  50. that useth milk is unskillful in the

  51. word of righteousness, for he is a babe.

  52. But strong meat belongth to them that

  53. are of full age, even those who by

  54. reason of use have their senses

  55. exercised to discern both good and evil.

  56. Therefore, leaving the principles of the

  57. doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto

  58. perfection, not laying again the

  59. foundation of repentance from dead

  60. works, and of faith toward God, of the

  61. doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on

  62. of hands, and of resurrection of the

  63. dead, and of eternal judgment. In verse

  64. three, the Bible says, "And this will we

  65. do if God permit." Now, I want to look

  66. at this these verses that I've read to

  67. you this morning, mainly just chapter 5,

  68. 11 through 14. And I want to consider

  69. this thought, okay, just to get your

  70. mind turned in in this direction. I want

  71. to talk about what's missing in the

  72. church. What's missing in the church?

  73. Now, there's a lot of things that we

  74. could say this morning, and our mind

  75. always goes to people, but I'll say this

  76. this morning. Who God's got here who

  77. want who he wants here.

  78. >> Amen. And you say, "Well, of course, he

  79. wants more here than who's here." And I

  80. understand that this morning, but it's

  81. not chance or circumstance that you're

  82. here. And uh when I think about what's

  83. missing in the church, you know, we

  84. could say it's people, but I really

  85. don't believe it's so much people as it

  86. is the the right attitude in the people

  87. that are present. And when I consider

  88. this text, Paul, the writer here, of

  89. course, we believe it to be Paul. I'll

  90. say more about that in just a minute.

  91. And I believe there's partly a proof

  92. here in this text as to why Paul did

  93. write the book of Hebrews. But he begins

  94. in verse number 11. And this is a

  95. parenthetical statement that he has

  96. literally just spent the last five

  97. chapters up to this point talking about

  98. Christ. And he is exhorting them to

  99. learn of his high priestly position, how

  100. that he's better than Moses, he's better

  101. than the angels, he's better than men.

  102. And he is teaching them all these

  103. truths. And he comes to this point in

  104. verse number 11 after he has talked

  105. about Christ being after the order of

  106. Melzdc in chapter 5 verse 9 and 10. In

  107. verse 11 he says this. He begins with

  108. this this statement. He says of whom we

  109. have many things to say. And his

  110. introduction to this parenthetical

  111. statement in verse number 11 is three

  112. things. And I I think this is what I

  113. find interesting about this because

  114. number one he points out their their

  115. love for Christ. He says, "Of whom we

  116. have many things to say." You understand

  117. something? For the child of God, we

  118. ought to never be able to get done

  119. talking about him.

  120. >> Amen. We ought to never run out of

  121. things to say about who he is. And Paul

  122. says, "Of whom we have many things to

  123. say." He says, "There's a lot of things

  124. that we want to tell you." But then he

  125. not only mentions the love that they

  126. have for him, but he mentions the labor

  127. that's hard. Look what he says. Of whom

  128. we have many things to say and hard to

  129. be uttered. Do you understand? Sometimes

  130. the truths that Christ puts in our heart

  131. are hard to express. Things that God has

  132. shown us and taught us in our Christian

  133. life are hard to relay to others. And

  134. that's just the truth. Because when you

  135. really begin to dive into the word of

  136. God and study, you're going to discover

  137. the providence of God and the inner

  138. workings of God and his will in the word

  139. of God are hard to understand. They're

  140. very hard to understand, hard to

  141. express. But that ought not stop us from

  142. telling it. But I notice what hinders

  143. here in this text. I consider the love

  144. that they have for him and the labor

  145. that he mentions his heart. But then

  146. this what interests me. What hinders in

  147. the church in this day and time what's

  148. lacking is is what he says in verse

  149. number 11. He says of whom we have many

  150. things to say and hard to be uttered.

  151. Seeing you are dull of hearing. You see,

  152. the problem we have in the church today

  153. is that listening has been hindered.

  154. And what this comes back to is years and

  155. years and years of modern day technology

  156. that have dulled our ability to listen.

  157. And what I mean by that is it's not so

  158. much that we can't hear it. We've got

  159. ability to hear. There's people now that

  160. couldn't hear and have hearing aids to

  161. hear. That's not the problem. The

  162. problem is not the physical ear, but is

  163. this the the ear of the heart. It's the

  164. the answer, the obedience of a heart to

  165. the word of God. He says you're dull of

  166. hearing. And the truth is for the child

  167. of God, there is so much for us to learn

  168. in this life about who he is. And I

  169. believe at best we could only learn

  170. about half of what really the scripture

  171. teaches. I don't think we'll ever learn

  172. the full extent. I think those that are

  173. the smartest in the word of God and had

  174. given their life to the scripture would

  175. tell you that they are eternities away

  176. from knowing everything that there is to

  177. know. But what I'm afraid of is is that

  178. because we have decided that we can't

  179. know everything. We are unwilling to

  180. learn anything else.

  181. We are satisfied with the status quo.

  182. We're satisfied with the basic truths of

  183. Christianity. Well, I'm saved and I'm

  184. going to heaven and that's good enough.

  185. And you know what? In the flesh, that is

  186. good enough. But if we're going to go

  187. forward for Christ, it's going to

  188. require us to know more than just the

  189. basic truths. Because if you do not

  190. learn more than just salvation, you will

  191. never be effective in the ministry that

  192. Christ has given you. Now, I want to

  193. relay these truths on your heart. And

  194. when I say what's missing in the church,

  195. I would say it's this. We're missing

  196. servants. We're not missing souls.

  197. There's plenty of people that will come

  198. to the house of God, but we're missing

  199. servants. We're missing people who are

  200. faithful. We're missing people who are

  201. fervent. We're missing people who are

  202. focused on the work of God. You see, all

  203. of us as a whole, we are really, and I

  204. want to just be nice when I say this

  205. this morning, when it really comes down

  206. to the ministry, we are disinterested

  207. compared to what Christ teaches in his

  208. word about the interest we should have

  209. in ministry. You say, "Preacher, well,

  210. how could you indict all of us in that

  211. way?" Well, I know the time that we all

  212. spend on ministry across the board. We

  213. don't spend enough time doing the things

  214. of God. You say, "Preacher, you don't

  215. know what I do at my home. I don't have

  216. to know."

  217. This is the day that we live in

  218. as a whole. The church is complacent.

  219. The church is carnal. The church is

  220. disinterested in the things of God. And

  221. that needs to change. Notice verse 12. I

  222. want to I want to re lay some truths on

  223. your heart. Like I said, this is not

  224. meant to be a discouragement to you this

  225. morning. It's meant to be an

  226. encouragement. It's a it's an

  227. exhortation for us to get serious. Amen.

  228. Notice this verse 12. For when the for

  229. the time you ought to be teachers, you

  230. have one need that one teach you again,

  231. which be the first principles of the

  232. oracles of God. Now, I want to highlight

  233. first of all, and we consider this

  234. thought here. Note the purpose that's

  235. not been fulfilled in verse 12. Note

  236. that first phrase, for when the time you

  237. ought to be teachers.

  238. When for the time you ought to be

  239. teachers. Now you say, well, what's the

  240. emphasis of that? Well, he has just told

  241. them here, he says, look, I've got a lot

  242. of things that I want to teach you. I've

  243. got a lot of things that I want to tell

  244. you, and I'm going to admit to you, this

  245. thing's hard to understand. But the

  246. reason it's that I can't tell you is not

  247. because it's hard to understand. It's

  248. because you don't want to hear it. You

  249. don't want to listen to it. I think

  250. preachers hands in many places are tied

  251. in this damn time because they have

  252. congregation that's just satisfied with

  253. what they know and they don't want to

  254. learn anything else. They don't want to

  255. do anything else. They don't want to be

  256. any more than what they are. And so when

  257. I consider this, Paul is saying when the

  258. time you ought to be teachers, what is

  259. he pointing out? Well, he's pointing out

  260. their age. Number one, look what he

  261. says. for when for the time

  262. he's saying look you've been saved long

  263. enough you ought to be doing something

  264. for the time you ought to be teachers

  265. notice that not only their age here they

  266. they're in Christianity they've not met

  267. up with where they should be in the will

  268. of God and in the work of God but they

  269. also have missed the academia look what

  270. he says for when the time you ought to

  271. be teachers

  272. it is there is no reason for a child of

  273. God to be saved 10 15 20 years and they

  274. can't give you a Bible lesson. There's

  275. no reason for that. You say, "Preacher,

  276. how can you say that?" Because if you

  277. are living and walking with Jesus

  278. Christ, you ought to know this book.

  279. We ought to know this book. Hey, this is

  280. the truth this morning. We ought to be

  281. able to give the word of God. If you've

  282. been saved many, many years, there's no

  283. excuse. There's no excuse. Look what he

  284. says. For when the time you ought to be

  285. teachers, you ought to have the ability,

  286. you ought to have the academia, your age

  287. shows that you are far enough along to

  288. be teaching. Look what he says. Ye have

  289. need that one teach you again, which be

  290. the first principles of oracles God. So

  291. there's the purpose that's not been

  292. fulfilled. They ought to be teachers.

  293. Number two, there's the problem that

  294. showcases their failure. Look what he

  295. says. You have need that one teach you

  296. again. Well, look what he's saying here.

  297. He says there's an essential need. That

  298. word need means something that is that

  299. is imperative. He says you have need

  300. that one teach you again. So, it's not

  301. something that they didn't know, but

  302. it's something they had forgotten. Isn't

  303. that interesting? You know, if you don't

  304. int continually invest yourself in

  305. truth, you know what'll happen? You'll

  306. forget it. And I know about 30 of

  307. y'all's turn me off this morning, but

  308. listen to me, okay? If you do not

  309. continually invest your life in truth,

  310. wake up every day of your life making up

  311. your mind, I'm going to learn something

  312. out of that book and I need God's help

  313. today. You know what you'll do? You'll

  314. lose what you already have.

  315. >> You will. That's the reason why people

  316. that's been saved 10, 15, 20, even 30

  317. years will come up in a to a place in

  318. their life and you know what they'll do?

  319. They'll start to doubt their salvation.

  320. Why is that? They'll do that because

  321. they have not been faithful to study the

  322. word of God because they've not fed the

  323. spirit of God. And he says, "You have

  324. need that one teach you again." It's

  325. essential, but it's for an explanation.

  326. Look what he said. You need to be taught

  327. again. We should never have to be taught

  328. the same truth twice.

  329. We ought to be able to hear the truth

  330. one time. And you know what? But we

  331. ought to be able to rehearse that thing

  332. in our mind over and over again and

  333. allow that growth to take place. Truth

  334. is like a seed that's planted. You know

  335. what happens when that truth gets put

  336. in? You know what it's supposed to do?

  337. It's supposed to grow, isn't it? So, you

  338. know what happens if we need to be

  339. taught again? That means we've choked

  340. out the seed in our life. We have

  341. allowed the word of God to become

  342. unfruitful. We have refused to bear

  343. fruit for the Lord Jesus Christ. And he

  344. says because of that your essential need

  345. is that you need to ex be you need an

  346. explanation again of these truths. He

  347. said you need to be taught again which

  348. be the first principles of the oracles

  349. of God. That phrase first principles

  350. literally means this. It means

  351. elementary

  352. the basic things.

  353. It's the one two threes and the ABCs of

  354. Christianity so to speak. You know what

  355. I see across the board in this day and

  356. time? People are so ignorant of Bible

  357. truth. People are so illiterate when it

  358. comes to the scriptures. And you know

  359. what that's an indictment on? That's an

  360. indictment on parents.

  361. Amen. That's an indictment on parents.

  362. When we refuse to train our children the

  363. word of God. When we refuse to teach

  364. them the word of God, you know what

  365. happens? There's a generation that rises

  366. and they don't know. And in this text

  367. here, he says, "You have need to one

  368. teach you again, which be the first

  369. principles, the elementary things, the

  370. things that you learn right after you

  371. get saved.

  372. You're going to have to be taught them

  373. again." Those first principles. I want

  374. to move on here and give you this

  375. thought. Okay? I I consider the purpose

  376. that's not been fulfilled. The problem

  377. that showcases their failure here in the

  378. text, they need to be taught again the

  379. first principles. But then I consider

  380. the provision in verse 12 of their

  381. feeling. Notice this. He says, "And are

  382. become such as have need of milk and not

  383. a strong meat." And I can't emphasize

  384. this enough. He is telling them on this

  385. text, look, he's telling them, he's

  386. saying, "Look, you've become this way.

  387. You've not always been this way." Look

  388. what he says. He says, he says, "For the

  389. time you ought to be teachers, you have

  390. need one to teach you again. So you've

  391. you've learned, you've you've been

  392. taught, but you've forgotten it." He

  393. said, "You've become such as have need

  394. of milk and not of strong meat. You've

  395. become a baby again, so to speak." What

  396. does he contrast in verse 12? Such as

  397. have need of milk and not of strong

  398. meat. What's the difference here in this

  399. text? Well, he's dealing with those

  400. basic things that are different from

  401. those deep truths of the word of God.

  402. You see something? When you get saved

  403. and when you live any amount of time and

  404. you learn like you're supposed to learn

  405. as a child of God, when you live the

  406. Christian life the way that you're

  407. supposed to, you're going to come to

  408. find the milk don't satisfy you anymore.

  409. >> You're not going to be satisfied with a

  410. sippy cup. Amen. And and and mashed up

  411. potatoes or apples. Amen. You're going

  412. to have to have something a little more

  413. than that.

  414. And our churches are dying because

  415. people are sitting on pews and they do

  416. not want nothing more than that. They

  417. want something that's easy to stomach.

  418. They want something that's palatable for

  419. a child with no teeth. Amen. You say,

  420. "Well, how is that?" Well, notice what

  421. the contrast is. He says that you've

  422. become such as have need of milk and not

  423. of strong meat. You know what that word

  424. strong there means? It's mentioned

  425. again, verse 14, but strong meat

  426. belongth to them that are full age. That

  427. that phrase strong meat, it means

  428. strong, hard, solid, rigid, immovable.

  429. And look what he says. He says, "You

  430. become such as have need of milk and not

  431. of strong meat." He said, "You're

  432. needing something that babies need."

  433. And really, you should be eating meat.

  434. You ever seen children

  435. get up in years and they'll get, you

  436. know, 8, nine, 10 years old and they

  437. still talk like a jibberjabber little

  438. baby.

  439. It's all right. Y'all can loosen up a

  440. little bit. Amen. And just like like

  441. that.

  442. There's a man, there's a young man that

  443. I know. He's actually about three or

  444. four years older than me now that I

  445. think about it. But I remember being in

  446. school with him. He was he was u high

  447. school. He was several years older than

  448. me. I think I remember middle school he

  449. was like a sophomore, a junior in high

  450. school, but his grandparents had raised

  451. him and it's no indictment against this

  452. young man. He just his he was a little

  453. bit a little bit slow in his mind and

  454. that wasn't his fault, but his

  455. grandparents had raised him and and

  456. they'd always talked to him like a baby.

  457. And I remember in high school that poor

  458. boy got made fun of so much because he

  459. he he his names for stuff like he he

  460. called a truck a tu and and just spoke

  461. like a little child even he's 18 17 18

  462. years old still speaks that way and I

  463. remember thinking about that and and

  464. seeing him and and how embarrassing that

  465. was you know because everybody looked at

  466. him and said you know he should be

  467. farther along than he is you know what

  468. that's the way that you look when you

  469. are illiterate in the things of God.

  470. When you're ignorant of the things of

  471. God, when there is simple truths that

  472. you should know, things that we should

  473. be acquainted with and understand. And

  474. what happens when you're called upon to

  475. present something to somebody that's

  476. been just saved for, you know, a few

  477. weeks or months and you can't answer a

  478. simple question that they have. You know

  479. what that is? That's that's unnatural.

  480. When you've been saved, like I said,

  481. when you've been saved 10, 15, 20 years,

  482. you ought to be on from the bottom.

  483. You ought to be teaching. You ought to

  484. be teaching.

  485. Really was hoping this would be received

  486. better than it's being received right

  487. now. But but you see this contrast here.

  488. Now note not only the contrast, but note

  489. secondly the character it's mentioned.

  490. Verse 13.

  491. He said you're become such as have need

  492. of milk and not of strong meat. Verse

  493. 13. For everyone that useth milk. All

  494. right. If you're still on the bottle, if

  495. you're still taking those baser things,

  496. if you're still constantly having to

  497. have reassurance, constantly having to

  498. um deal with basic things in

  499. Christianity, look what he says. He

  500. says, "For everyone that useth milk is

  501. unskillful in the word of righteousness,

  502. for he is obeyed." Now, I find

  503. interesting here. He points out the

  504. contrast in verse 12. But the character

  505. in verse 13, I think is what's

  506. interesting because he says, "Everyone

  507. that useth milk, everyone that consumes

  508. milk is unskillful." That word in

  509. unskillful literally means ignorant or

  510. immature.

  511. Everyone that useth milk. If you find

  512. somebody that is constantly living off

  513. of John 3:16

    John 3:16

  514. or Philippians 4:13, taken out of

    Philippians 4:13

  515. context, God help us.

  516. I can do all things through Christ which

  517. strengthenth me. Those people will take

  518. that and use it to go get a beer down at

  519. the ABC store. I mean, it's just godless

  520. the way people take scripture and

  521. misapply. I'm saying when you just take

  522. basic truths and people are just living

  523. off of those things, you know what that

  524. is? That's a baby. That's a baby

  525. Christian. You say, "Preacher, they've

  526. been saved 20 years." It doesn't matter

  527. if they do not if they will not take

  528. hard truth. If they will not listen when

  529. a preacher just preaches it gun barrel

  530. straight right by the book and don't

  531. leave nothing laying on the side. Okay.

  532. When he preaches it that way and they

  533. will not accept that. You know what that

  534. is? That's a baby. That's a baby. Look

  535. what he says. He says everyone that

  536. useth milk is unskillful

  537. in the word of righteous. That means

  538. they do not know the truth. What did

  539. Jesus say? He said the truth shall set

  540. you free. Didn't he? But what was the

  541. stipulation on that? He said, "You shall

  542. know the truth, and the truth shall make

  543. you free." You see, the truth doesn't

  544. make you free by itself.

  545. You say, "Well, I'm saved. I'm free." Of

  546. course, you are positionally, but

  547. practically, let's just be real. You can

  548. be saved and be as locked down

  549. fleshly, physically, you can be as

  550. locked down, locked down just as bad as

  551. a sinner because you do not know the

  552. truth. That's why people do not

  553. understand, preacher, why do you

  554. emphasize so much the knowledge of the

  555. scripture? Because it's by the knowledge

  556. of THE WORD OF GOD THAT YOU GROW.

  557. >> NO, it's not appealing always. But I

  558. understand the truth is if there's going

  559. to be effectiveness in this thing, it's

  560. going to come through the learning of

  561. the word of God. For everyone that useth

  562. milk, for everyone that consumeth the

  563. basic things is unskillful. What is he

  564. unskillful in? In the word of

  565. righteousness,

  566. a baby talks like a baby because they're

  567. a baby. But an adult should not talk

  568. like a baby. Somebody say, "Amen."

  569. >> Verse 14.

  570. Notice not only the contrast, the

  571. character, but not the completion that

  572. he calls for here. He says, "But strong

  573. meat belongth to them that are of full

  574. age." At full age, that means maturity,

  575. even those who by reason of use have

  576. their senses exercised to discern both

  577. good and evil. Now, this verse is powerp

  578. packed. All right. Now, get this, okay?

  579. He says, "Strong meat belongth to them

  580. that are full." So, I'm thankful that

  581. there are truths that can sustain us.

  582. You You realize that life is more than

  583. just storms and suffering. I swear 95%

  584. of Baptist preachers I hear anymore,

  585. that's all they know how to preach on is

  586. storms and suffering. I'm thinking, we

  587. don't know nothing about suffering in

  588. this country. We really don't. I mean,

  589. we talk about cancer and I realize that

  590. that is a suffering of the flesh. But

  591. I'm talking about when you compare

  592. suffering in that book to what

  593. suffering, what we think suffering is,

  594. it's not even close.

  595. >> The storms that we face, the issues that

  596. we deal with are so small compared to

  597. what scripture teaches. And this strong

  598. meat, if it's good enough for those that

  599. were burned at the steak, for those that

  600. had their heads chopped off, if this is

  601. what caused them to go all the way to

  602. their death, unwilling to step back or

  603. to turn around, it's that that we need.

  604. The reason why we're so soft and so

  605. sensitive is because we're on the milk.

  606. Because notice this, strong meat

  607. belonging. There's a people. There's a

  608. group. There's a position that deserves

  609. this. What is what what is that

  610. qualification? It belongs to them that

  611. are of full age. Complete maturity. Look

  612. what does he look what he says. What

  613. defines this maturity? What defines this

  614. crowd who is of full age? Well, look

  615. what he says. Even those who by reason,

  616. notice this little phrase here, of use,

  617. by reason of use have their senses

  618. exercised to discern both good and evil.

  619. So first of all, if you're going to be

  620. of full age, if you're going to be a

  621. perfect man, as the scripture teach,

  622. this completeness that Paul is calling

  623. for, number one, there's got to be

  624. determination,

  625. discipline. What is that? Well, look

  626. what he says. Even those who by reason

  627. of what? Use. Use. You know the reason

  628. why people are not effective in the

  629. ministry? Because they've never done

  630. anything.

  631. I do not know why it's so quiet this

  632. morning. Y'all going to have to liven up

  633. a little bit.

  634. The reason people can't do anything is

  635. because they've never tried to do

  636. anything. And this is the excuse we use

  637. in this damn time. Well, that's just not

  638. my personality, preacher. I'm not loud

  639. and boisterous. I'm not really I'm just

  640. to myself. I'm not going to go talk to

  641. people. Well, let's just back up on that

  642. a minute, okay? If you want, you find

  643. something you want to buy, you wouldn't

  644. care who you had to talk to

  645. >> to get it. Amen.

  646. And I'm going to pick on you ladies for

  647. a minute, okay? But when you go in the

  648. store and you see that piece of jewelry

  649. in there, it don't matter what the

  650. cashier looks like. It doesn't matter.

  651. If you like it, you going to go talk to

  652. that person cuz you want what's in the

  653. case. Amen. What I'm saying is is that

  654. person's got a soul. And we use excuses

  655. so many times wherever we're at. We

  656. can't minister. we can't do this, we

  657. can't do that. Men are the same way,

  658. man. We'll we'll we won't we won't

  659. witness to somebody. We won't talk to

  660. somebody about the Lord, but we'll go

  661. down to the dealership and we'll talk to

  662. the roughest looking dude that there is

  663. so we can buy us a truck.

  664. >> We're without excuse.

  665. >> And what I'm coming back to on this

  666. right here is is it's not just

  667. witnessing, but the ministry itself, our

  668. teaching. Well, we're afraid. We're

  669. afraid of crowds. Well, the ball game

  670. doesn't bother you.

  671. I hit a stump right there.

  672. >> Straw meat belongth to them that are

  673. full age, even those who by reason of

  674. use. There has to be discipline.

  675. Further, it goes further than just use.

  676. Look what he Look what else he says. Who

  677. by reason of use have their senses

  678. exercised. Oh, that's a dirty word,

  679. ain't it?

  680. You've got to work it out. What did Paul

  681. tell the Philippian church? He said,

  682. "Work out your own salvation with fear

  683. and trembling." He wasn't talking about

  684. work out how you're going to be saved.

  685. He said, "But since you have been saved,

  686. you ought to be working because you are

  687. saved."

  688. >> It should not be so much of a problem.

  689. Hear me out what I'm saying. All right?

  690. It should not be so much of a problem to

  691. find people to teach Sunday school

  692. classes and to teach classes in the

  693. church to fulfill ministry positions. Uh

  694. we should not have to beg and plead to

  695. get five people to go on visitation on

  696. Saturdays.

  697. That's that's not there's no re You say

  698. preacher, well I just I'm just not that

  699. way. Well, I'll tell you this. Jesus

  700. wasn't a sinner. But you know what? He

  701. became sin who knew no sin that we might

  702. be made the righteousness of God in him.

  703. >> I'm saying he did what he did not want

  704. to do, but he had to do so we could be

  705. saved. We ought to be willing to do just

  706. a little bit. He's not asking us to die.

  707. He's just asking us to live. Have some

  708. determination. Have some discipline.

  709. Decide in your heart this morning that

  710. you're going to do what you have to do

  711. because God's called you to. You have to

  712. be disciplined or you're going to spend

  713. the rest of your life on the milk. And

  714. you know what'll happen? You'll never

  715. grow that way. You know what? It burdens

  716. me. You go places preaching and I used

  717. to do this a lot more when I was

  718. preaching out all the time before I

  719. started pastoring. that you see people

  720. that's they'll tell you, "Preacher, I've

  721. been in this church for 40, 50, you

  722. know, years, years upon years upon years

  723. and and then you get to having a

  724. conversation with them. They'll tell you

  725. they're saved and they got a good

  726. testimony, but then you just go to

  727. talking about things. You ever done

  728. that? You ever just talk about church

  729. things and you find that they don't have

  730. a clue

  731. about anything scripture- wise? They

  732. can't tell you the reason. They can't

  733. tell you simple reasons why we should

  734. testify. They can't tell you reasons. I

  735. mean, why why do we do baptism? What's

  736. the purpose of that? Why do we knock on

  737. doors? Why do we sew? Why do we believe

  738. in Sunday school? What are the reasons

  739. for all? And you ask them and they have

  740. no answer.

  741. They're a baby.

  742. And it is not defined by how long you've

  743. been in church.

  744. >> And I'll say this, a lot of this falls

  745. back on the preaching in this country. I

  746. I'll say this, 75 to 85% of this falls

  747. back on the preaching this country.

  748. People will be in a church their entire

  749. life and a preacher won't never preach

  750. nothing other than a topical sermon on

  751. on suffering or storms like I said and

  752. they never grow. They never grow. They

  753. never get past the basic things.

  754. You know what's going to happen to that

  755. place? It dies.

  756. It's defined here in this text. What

  757. happens to it? There's determination. I

  758. got to move on here. This completion

  759. it's determination. But out of that

  760. determination and discipline, verse 14,

  761. there's discernment. Look what he says.

  762. Who by reason of use have their senses

  763. exercised to discern both good and evil.

  764. They are able to discern between what's

  765. beneficial for them and what's bad for

  766. them. And this is the indictment that

  767. I'm seeing against the church this day.

  768. People can say the right things and do

  769. the right things, you know, or say the

  770. right things, but when it really comes

  771. down to their actions, they don't really

  772. know what's best for them.

  773. I'm being honest with you, okay? When

  774. you think about people and you know, you

  775. say, "Preacher, well, I know the

  776. scripture. I know what I'm supposed to

  777. do." Let me ask you this. If you know

  778. it, why aren't you doing it?

  779. Because here's it's to know it is one

  780. thing. To have the meat on on the table

  781. and able to partake of, it's one thing.

  782. But to eat it is a whole another thing.

  783. You see, it's not so much what people

  784. say that tells me where they're at

  785. spiritually, but what they do that tells

  786. me where they're at spiritually, the way

  787. they live their life, what they do

  788. outside of the church. They these this

  789. man that's complete, that's of full age.

  790. He have his has his senses exercised to

  791. discern both good and evil. He knows

  792. what's beneficial, but he also knows

  793. what's bad for him. And he is going to

  794. follow only what is beneficial for him.

  795. Now

  796. talking about this thought of what's

  797. missing in the church and service the

  798. reason service is missing in the church

  799. is because much of the church is carnal

  800. we are carnally minded and isn't it

  801. interesting that the other time this

  802. phrase milk is used Paul was right in

  803. Corinthians I told you that there's

  804. there's many proofs but I think this is

  805. just one that goes to show Paul was

  806. writing this 1 Corinthians 3

  807. listen what it says 1 Corinthians 3:es

  808. 1-3. Look what he says. He says, "And I,

  809. brethren, could not speak unto you as

  810. unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even

  811. as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you

  812. with milk and not with meat, for

  813. hitherto you were not able to bear it,

  814. neither yet now are you able, for ye are

  815. yet carnal." What is what is the

  816. description of this carnal church? Well,

  817. look what he says. The problem is for

  818. whereas there's among you envings and

  819. strife and divisions. Are you not carnal

  820. and walk as men? For while one saith, I

  821. am a Paul, another am I, I am of

  822. Apollos. Are ye not carnal? You want to

  823. know, you want to know a description of

  824. a carnal church? Church is full of

  825. division.

  826. Church that's full of envy,

  827. covetousness, strife,

  828. backbiting, malignity, all of those

  829. terms. That's carnality in the church.

  830. You say, "Preacher, well, we're not

  831. committing fornication and adultery."

  832. Praise God for it. But you mad at

  833. everybody in here.

  834. I'm saying carnality is not just

  835. immorality.

  836. It's not it's not even just being mad at

  837. somebody. But if you are so consumed by

  838. your flesh and yourself, that that is

  839. carnality and that is hindering service

  840. in the house of God.

  841. >> This strong meat belongth to them that

  842. are full age. people who are not carnal.

  843. The carnal man receiveth not the things

  844. of God. The Bible says they're

  845. spiritually discerned. He cannot know

  846. them because the spirit teaches them.

  847. And so I would say carnality hinders

  848. growth, but complacency hinders growth.

  849. Complacency hinders growth. It's not

  850. just that you have to be worldly minded,

  851. but you just can be nothing minded. Men,

  852. we know all about this, okay? We get in

  853. our box of nothing, all right? and we

  854. just don't think about anything. We're

  855. just decided we're just not going to be

  856. decided about anything basically.

  857. And we know this well. And you say,

  858. "What is that?" Well, he describes it in

  859. the verses just prior to this in an

  860. admonition that he gives to the church.

  861. Notice verse 12 of chapter 6 of Hebrews.

  862. Hebrews 6:12. Look what he says. What's

    Hebrews 6:12

  863. that first phrase? That you be not

  864. slothful. You know what that is? That's

  865. laziness.

  866. That's complacency.

  867. Brother Jimmy said this during revival

  868. meeting. And I hope y'all didn't miss

  869. this. He said, "The Christian life is

  870. like this." He said, "You're either

  871. paddling upstream or you're floating

  872. down.

  873. >> The moment that you start pressing

  874. forward,

  875. you're going backward."

  876. Because that's just the truth. The

  877. stream of this world and your life is

  878. against you.

  879. And if you're not careful, complacency,

  880. complacency will hinder growth.

  881. Slothfulness, unfaithfulness, all of

  882. these hinder growth. And this is what

  883. keeps you from being a mature Christian

  884. of full age.

  885. Christianity is not for the lazy man.

  886. The ministry is not for the lazy man.

  887. And if you are going to do anything for

  888. God, you will have to decide. You will

  889. have to decide number one to be

  890. disciplined.

  891. And out of that discipline will arise

  892. discernment who by reason of use. You

  893. got to use it. Here's here's the reason.

  894. And and I've said this before at the

  895. church, I think I' I may have mentioned

  896. this in passion, but a lot of the reason

  897. why I think ministry has been so

  898. neglected this d time is because we put

  899. all the emphasis on training, training,

  900. training, training. We want to train

  901. this one, train that. And here's the

  902. thing about it. I'm all for training.

  903. Okay? But when it comes down to the

  904. ministry, if you're ever going to do it,

  905. you going to just have to start.

  906. You just have to start. You don't know

  907. it all at the beginning. You ain't got

  908. it all figured out. I mean, if you need

  909. an example of that, just look at the

  910. pull pit. Amen.

  911. You ain't going to know it all. You're

  912. not going to have it all figured out,

  913. but if you wait until you do, you will

  914. never start.

  915. And so, I noticed this in the text and

  916. I'm done. You see the purpose that's not

  917. been fulfilled, the problem that

  918. showcased their failure, the provision

  919. of their filling. They were drinking

  920. this milk when they needed to be on

  921. meat. But notice what he begins with in

  922. chapter six. And I'm going to deal with

  923. this again on next Sunday. And I know

  924. it's going to be the Sunday before

  925. Christmas, but we're going to deal with

  926. it anyway. Chapter 6 and verse one. He

  927. says, "Therefore, all right, therefore,

  928. because strong meat belong unto them

  929. that are of full age." He says,

  930. "Therefore, there's some things we're

  931. going to have to leave and we're going

  932. to have to part from some things in

  933. order that we might finish." Look what

  934. he says. Therefore, leaving the

  935. principles of the doctrine of Christ,

  936. let us go on unto

  937. perfection. Well, you know what that is?

  938. That's completeness.

  939. Can I can I as a pastor put this to you

  940. this morning? Grow.

  941. Make it your desire that tomorrow you

  942. going to be closer to God and know more

  943. about God than you did today.

  944. >> And the day after that, you're going to

  945. be farther along with God and for God

  946. than you was the day before that. The

  947. reason why we do not go anywhere for God

  948. is because we do not have any goals for

  949. God.

  950. Get you a burden.

  951. Find somebody that needs to be saved and

  952. pray for them and pray for an

  953. opportunity to witness to them and pray

  954. until God gives you that opportunity.

  955. Lead them to God and then disciple them.

  956. Our churches are dying because we're not

  957. doing this. And you say, "Preacher, I

  958. thought this was supposed to be an

  959. encouragement." Well, let me say this to

  960. you. It's supposed to be an

  961. encouragement to you because this is the

  962. faithful crowd. You are the ones that's

  963. here for Sunday school. You are the ones

  964. that were here last night and here for

  965. visitation and here for the ministries

  966. of the church. Let me encourage you.

  967. Grow. Grow.

  968. There's people that's not going to grow.

  969. Don't be one of those people. Amen.

  970. Father, thank you for this time. Lord, I

  971. pray God you'd bless this thought this

  972. morning. Help us as we preach today. Get

  973. glory to yourself. Help us to grow. Draw

  974. closer to thee. Help us to get off the

  975. milk, Father. Not be so carnal and

  976. fleshly, God. We're worried about our

  977. salvation and worried about this and

  978. worried about that and Lord carried

  979. caring about others opinions of us and

  980. all this that and the other. Lord, help

  981. us just be settled and grounded. Just

  982. get busy. Lord, I sure love you. Thank

  983. you for allowing us to serve you. Bless

  984. the service today. We pray in Jesus

  985. name. Amen.

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