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"Therefore" - When In Rome - Ps Josiah Olson / Recorded in Kelowna on February 23rd, 2025

C3 Church - Central BC (Vernon, Kelowna, Revelstoke)

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  1. Welcome and thanks for joining us for this episode of the See Free Church podcast. You're

  2. about to listen into a message from one of our gatherings. To find out more about our

  3. community, where we gather, both in person and online, and how to get involved, head

  4. to seefreechurch.ca. Now, let's listen into a message from a recent service.

  5. Hey, so before we dive in, Clayton said it, my name is Josiah, and along with my wife,

  6. we're associate pastors of the church. We reside in Vernon, so we spend most of our

  7. time in our Vernon location, which seems to be a little untrue because I've been with

  8. you for the last three weeks, but sometimes we spend a lot of time in Vernon, and we've

  9. been in the middle of a series right now on the book of Romans. How many of you know we're

  10. in the middle of a series on the book of Romans? I hope you do, otherwise I'm doing a very

  11. bad job as a preacher, but that's all right. We'll give me another chance today. But before

  12. we dig in today, we are going to be digging into Romans chapter 12 and 13. Let's quickly

    Romans 12 chapter mention

  13. remind ourselves of where the book of Romans has come from, because lo and behold, although

  14. you heard me last week and you heard me the week before, you've probably forgotten most

  15. things about Romans by today. You have not forgot your streak on Duolingo or what you're

  16. having for breakfast every week, a hash brown with hot sauce. Weird. Anyways, so we'll continue.

  17. Romans, it comes from Paul, a devoted Jewish follower who had converted to Christianity,

  18. and then became an apostle. Apostle is not a word that we use very often in our culture,

  19. if you go to Africa, you'll see apostle on every advertisement for revival. But we could

  20. interpret it this way, an apostle is a church planter. Okay, so he wrote this letter to

  21. the church in Rome around AD 57, and he was still in the city of Corinth doing ministry

  22. there. Paul is writing in advance of a hopeful trip to Rome, the epicenter of modern society.

  23. Paul is, this church in Rome would have predominantly met in homes, if not exclusively in homes.

  24. So because of the cultural divide between Jewish believers and non-Jewish believers, there's

  25. a good chance that one home had Jewish believers and one home had non-Jewish believers, a little

  26. segregated. But Paul was writing this not to Jewish believers or non-Jewish believers,

  27. he was writing to all of them. The book of Romans, the letter is written to the church

  28. in Rome, it's broken into three sections, Dr. Vernon McGee labels them this way, chapters

  29. one to eight is the theology of faith, chapters nine to 11, which is what we looked at last

  30. week when I preach from Vernon, it's the dispensational section. So it's about Israel's past, present,

  31. and future. And here we are in chapters 12 into the third section, and it's chapters

  32. 12 through 16, it's duty, justified by faith to duty. We're going to read on Romans 12

  33. versus one to two in the message version that are thrown up on the screen, I'll read it

  34. with you, I think if it makes it up on the screen, there we go. So here's what I want

  35. you to do, God helping you take your everyday ordinary life, you're sleeping, you're eating,

  36. you're going to work and you're walking around life and place it before God as an offering,

  37. embracing what God does for you is the best thing you can do for him. Don't become so

  38. well adjusted to your culture that you fit into it without even thinking. Instead, fix

  39. your attention on God. You'll be changed from the inside out, readily recognize what he wants

  40. from you and quickly respond to it. Unlike the culture around you always dragging you

  41. down to its level of immaturity, God brings the best out of you, develops well formed

  42. maturity in you. This is the intro to Romans 12, Romans 12, one to two, we've read it in

  43. the message version. If you've been doing our midweeks, you would have just spent a

  44. week on the different translations. The message version is less a version, more a summary.

  45. It's sort of like Cliff Notes. It's sort of like putting into chat GBT and saying, what

  46. does this mean? This is what it is. So the message is a really great place to start when

  47. you're trying to read your Bible because it gives you a more easily understood idea of

  48. what the Bible is saying. How many of you know the Bible is confusing? Wow, you're so

  49. vocal. So we've got to do things sometimes to make the Bible less confusing because the

  50. Bible is still necessary. Scripture says that the Bible is necessary to correct, rebuke,

  51. encourage, and to teach. So we need Scripture even if it's hard. How many of you know hard

  52. things doesn't mean it's a bad thing? How many of you had to do a hard thing this morning?

  53. Stand up. How many of you had to do a hard thing? Make coffee before you had coffee.

  54. Hard things aren't bad things. They're just hard things. And we have to find ways to make

  55. hard things more simple so that we can participate in the necessity of life. I've titled my message,

  56. and I encourage you to take notes. I've titled it one word, therefore. Why don't you close

  57. your eyes? I'm going to pray. Jesus, thank you for being here. God, I pray in this room

  58. right now with every head bowed and every eye closed, God, I pray that we would turn

  59. our attentions off ourselves. God, just for a moment, just for 27 minutes, would we turn

  60. our affections and our attentions onto you? Would we remove the things that we are worried

  61. about and would we say, God, I give you the space to ask me to do something I've never

  62. done before so I can go somewhere I've never been before. God, would there be people in

  63. this room that meet Jesus for the first time in reality because they gave permission for

  64. you to move? God, I thank you that you're a gentleman. I thank you that you wait for

  65. our invitation, that you give space for our figuring it out and working it out. God, I

  66. pray that you would invade this space right now with your presence, that we wouldn't miss

  67. that Jesus was in the room. In your name we pray, amen. So let me summarize for a moment

  68. the chapters we're going to look at today. So in Romans 12, there's four sections I'm

  69. breaking this down to. So we're going through Romans 12 to 13. Romans 12, 1 to 2, which

  70. is what I just read. The Bible that I have has like little headings. Anyone see that

  71. in your Bible ever? It's these black headings telling you a summary of what it is. So it

  72. says a living sacrifice. I didn't really like that title so I'll give you a different one.

  73. It's the walking dead. Romans 12, 1 to 2 is the walking dead. You'll understand it as we

  74. go a little further. Second section, Romans 12, 3 to 21, my Bible says marks of a true

  75. Christian. I'm going to call it proof of purchase. Next section, Romans 13, 1 to 7. We're going

  76. to go through these but just give you a summary here. It says submitting to authorities. Everyone

  77. say amen? That was, you guys are just such submitted authoritarian people. It's wonderful.

  78. I called it a little different. I'm calling it recognizing who's in charge. Last section,

  79. Romans 13, 8 to 4, which gets us to the end of the chapter that we're going through today.

  80. Titled in mine it says living with urgency of love and holiness. I wrote it this way,

  81. love like there's no tomorrow. The walking dead, proof of purchase, recognizing who's

  82. in charge and love like there's no tomorrow. We're going to turn back to that first verse

  83. that we read but we're going to read it in the ESV here. They're going to put it on the

  84. screen so I can follow along. It just means if they put it on the screen I know I'm reading

  85. from the Bible. It's good. Romans 12, 1 to 3, it'll be 2 but in the ESV. I appeal to

  86. you therefore, brothers, by the mercies of God to present your bodies as a living sacrifice.

  87. Walking dead. Holy and acceptable to God which is your spiritual worship. Do not be conformed

  88. to this world but be transformed by the renewal of your mind that by testing you may discern

  89. what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect. So if you've been

  90. taking the course that we've been doing in midweek you would have learned that it's sometimes

  91. advantageous to read the Bible in multiple versions. You would have learned that there's

  92. a reason there's multiple versions. Now there's not multiple versions because one guy read

  93. it and said I don't like this so I'm going to write my own Bible. Just so you're clear.

  94. It's not multiple versions because of preference. It's multiple versions because we're trying

  95. to interpret something that is not our original language. I love this analogy. So there's

  96. two threads that are taken when we interpret scripture. There's the thread of trying to

  97. interpret it word for word or thought for thought and most of your Bible translation

  98. sits somewhere along that. The message is very thought for thought where it's summarizing

  99. the idea. The ESV which we just read is the opposite. It's word for word. That's why I've

  100. given you these contrasting things. I like this analogy to sort of put it in context

  101. for us. If you know a little bit of French, which I know un petit peu, a little bit of

  102. French, there's a word in French called palm de terre. Palm de terre. Now palm de terre

  103. by thought is potato. By word for word translation is apple of the earth. So some Bible translations

  104. will have translated that apple of the earth and some will have translated it potato. You

  105. following me? It's not actually in the Bible the potato, the apple of the earth, but you

  106. get it. So that's why we have the breadth of this trying to give us an understanding

  107. that hey we all know now that palm de terre is probably not exactly or sorry apple of

  108. the earth isn't exactly what they're saying. But potato is probably what they're saying,

  109. but we need the breadth of that. Today you've learned some French. Welcome to Canada. Bonjour.

  110. So this is why we look at different versions because there's a different perspective taken

  111. on it. They're all trying to translate the Bible authentically. There's just different

  112. ideas of how to translate it authentically. They're all saying that the Bible is in the

  113. inerrant, the rightful word of God. We're just translating to help us understand it. Pastor

  114. Dave says this, I think I said it last week as well, is the best version of the Bible

  115. for you to read is the one that you'll read. So if the one that you're trying to read isn't

  116. working, then choose a version that you can read, because they're authoritative enough

  117. in their translation that we can get what God's trying to say out of it. Okay, sound good?

  118. So I've titled this message Therefore, and I don't know if you'll remember, a couple

  119. weeks ago when I was here, I used the idea about therefore. And when I was in Bible college,

  120. I had a professor say to me, he said, "Whenever you see therefore in the Bible, you must discover

  121. what it is." There for exactly. Ah, proud of you. There for. So here we find ourselves

  122. in Romans 12 with Paul saying therefore, what does that mean? In theosaurus, or thesaurus,

  123. thesaurus, it's a dinosaur, thesaurus.com, gives the list of synonyms for the word therefore.

  124. It says accordingly. So then thus consequently, hence thence and so ergo for for this reason

  125. for as much as in consequence in that event, in as much as on account of on the ground

  126. since there from there upon to that and whence wherefore. Therefore doesn't tell us a whole

  127. lot, does it? It tells us that there's something preceding this that I must know to understand

  128. what is taking place after it. Too often in scripture, we like to read pastor therefore.

  129. We have 11 chapters that Paul has said, this is what it means. God's sacrificing himself

  130. for you. This is what it means to obtain righteousness with Christ. Therefore, this is now how we

  131. act. And how many of you know if you get the action before the understanding of why you're

  132. going to misalign some things, you're going to have a very dead Christianity, not just

  133. a dead individual, but a dead Christianity. It's what we sometimes call dead works. You'll

  134. do the right things without meeting Jesus. We believe in our church that today you can

  135. meet Jesus, which is why we worship not to sing songs. But we actually think there's

  136. life that is coming into the space. Not to read words that were written 2000 years ago,

  137. but we believe there's life coming to the words of the Bible. It's so sad to relegate

  138. the relationship with Jesus just to a religious practice. And let me tell you, if that's all

  139. you've ever had, God has more for you than that. He is far more than doing the right

  140. things, because doing the right things never really got you anywhere anyways, did it? No.

  141. So therefore tells us that everything preceding that, this chapter that we're in, now tells

  142. us how to live. I remember a guy I asked to feedback one of my messages about a decade

  143. ago from a different city. He gave me this thought, and it's funny I have it written

  144. on my template that I always write on my notes, and I asked myself this question when I'm preparing

  145. a message, after I've written everything, the question is, "so what?" Great. Paul wrote

  146. Romans, "so what?" And today I want to encourage you to ask the same question today as we dig

  147. into the message. So what, or now what? Not here's the information that I have, because

  148. information will not change your life, but revelation will. Something being revealed

  149. that transforms it. When someone comes up here and encourages you to give, having encouragement

  150. to give is not going to change your life. Giving changes your life. Knowing that church

  151. is a good place to be doesn't change your life. Being in church, and being involved,

  152. and being in relationship, that changes your life. Knowing the Bible's God word doesn't

  153. change your life. Reading God's, you get the idea here, right? So here I'm encouraging

  154. you to say, okay, now what? Or so what? And if there's no answer to that then I've done

  155. a poor job delivering God's word to you this morning. But I believe that today there is

  156. something for you. That there is a so what? There is a now what because of this. Make

  157. sense? Can we agree upon that? Okay. Mitchell says yes. So I go with Mitchell. John P. Pohlhiel

  158. in his book, Paul and his letters, which is a theological understanding of Paul's letters,

  159. because Paul wrote a lot of the New Testament, not all of it as he would have learned this

  160. week, but a good amount. He says this, Christ presented himself as a sacrifice for us. Understand?

  161. Christ died. The proper and logical response to the divine act of grace, Christ didn't

  162. die because I did something good. Christ died because he was good. In fact, everything I've

  163. tried to do good is not sufficient for his death. So the only logical response to this

  164. divine act of grace is to sacrifice ourselves in sacred service to our Lord. The truth is

  165. this, conceited people are incapable of empathy toward others. We need to learn how to be

  166. the walking dead. Dead to self, alive in Christ. And I promise you if that's offensive then

  167. you're probably not the walking dead yet. Anytime scripture hurts me, it shows me where

  168. I haven't actually submitted myself to God. It doesn't show me where scripture is being

  169. mean. It shows me where scripture is pointing on something that I'm still trying to be my

  170. own Lord of. You ever watch one of those house flipping shows? They walk into like a disaster

  171. of a house. Holes in the walls, questionable smell, you know, maybe it's what your house

  172. currently looks like, I don't know. And they say, this place has potential. I remember

  173. our house in Revelstoke, we learned after looking at houses for a while that I saw potential

  174. where my wife didn't so I had to look first and then she would trust my potential. I remember

  175. walking into her house and she's like, yeah I'll live here. Get rid of that, that, that,

  176. that. Which we did and it was great. But this is kind of what Jesus does to us. He walks

  177. into the mess of our lives, hands us the keys and says, it's time to renovate. He sees potential.

  178. It doesn't matter what it looks like, he sees potential. It doesn't matter where you've

  179. come from, doesn't matter where you're at right now, God walks into your life and says,

  180. let's renovate. There's potential here. Whether today's your first day or you grew up in this

  181. church, let's walk in, there's potential. There's still things that scripture shows

  182. you, you are not submitted to God about because we're human, working it out. Romans 12 to

  183. 3 is sort of Paul's blueprint for this transformation. He spent 11 chapters laying out the gospel

  184. and now he hits us with therefore. In other words, since Jesus did all this, here's what

  185. happens next. So the first point, the walking dead. Paul starts with an appeal, with I appeal

  186. to you therefore brothers by the mercies of God to present your bodies as a living sacrifice,

  187. holy and acceptable to God which is your spiritual worship. Back in the day, sacrifices were dead.

  188. Make sense? There was not a practice in Jewish faith to sacrifice living things. They sacrificed

  189. dead things. So Paul flips the script when he says this and he says, well actually I

  190. want a living sacrifice. You want your life to be a living sacrifice. It's not just about

  191. tweaking our behaviour, it's actually about surrendering everything. How many of you can

  192. say today that you have surrendered everything to Jesus? None of you. Now some of us can

  193. say we want to surrender everything to Jesus, some of us are working at surrendering everything

  194. to Jesus, but none of us have fully surrendered, which is why God walks into our life and says,

  195. it's time to renovate. It doesn't matter where we're at. Understanding? So surrendering

  196. is this really interesting thing. So we focus here on the therefore and I think there's so

  197. many times in my life that I have to ask myself, have I really got to the therefore? Have I

  198. really submitted, because of what God's done, have I really submitted myself to him? And

  199. again it's those moments where you read a scripture and you're like, well I don't really

  200. like that or I don't agree with that. Well when you say to God, I don't agree with what

  201. you said, what you're saying is, I'm in charge, you're not. It's not how we like to say it.

  202. As a Canadian culture we like to tone down any negative thing we say. We're like, oh well

  203. it could have been better. We give very light feedback in our society. We don't tell people,

  204. you're a bad singer, please don't do that again. We say, well, you know what, you just

  205. have a different tone than the rest of us. So maybe today I'm going to give you a few

  206. options of tangible applications, things you can do. The so what? The now what? Maybe today

  207. what you could decide to do over the next week is you could say, and pray, God I give

  208. you my mind, my heart, my body, let my life be an act of worship. Maybe you write it down,

  209. maybe you text a friend and tell them, hey this week I would like to do this every day.

  210. How many of you know if you text a friend you're more likely to do something than if you leave

  211. here and don't text a friend? I just gave that example to someone this morning about,

  212. for me the thing that really shifted my irregular practice of reading the Bible to reading the

  213. Bible was doing a Bible reading plan with others. They never even called me and said,

  214. why haven't you read your Bible? They were not judgmental like I would be. But I knew

  215. they were there, and that encouraged me. You know I said it last week, we're all only one

  216. tool away from the breakthrough in our lives. One moment away from the breakthrough in it.

  217. Whatever you feel like is hard in your Christian walk, you're only one moment away. You're

  218. one prayer at the end of service with someone away, you're one idea away, you're one action

  219. away, you're one thing away. I remember praying a few months ago about a financial concern,

  220. and I realized God said, you know like every once in a while we have financial concerns,

  221. right? Whether it's a hundred dollars that you're in debt or a hundred thousand dollars

  222. you're in debt or whatever. And I realized when I was praying, I was like God I would

  223. like you to show up in this way. And I thought about like, oh it's going to be thirty different

  224. things that have to happen for this to work out, and then God said like, I could do it

  225. with just one person dropping off one thing. And we always think that it has to be thirty

  226. things, but God can do a miraculous thing in a miraculous moment. So we have to be careful

  227. not to relegate God to a certain box of things. And we all do it, we all put God in a box.

  228. We put him in the permissibility of our lives box. Here's what you have permission to work

  229. in in my life. And every once in a while we realize that we've put him in a box and we

  230. break the box and put him in a larger box. Or a different box. God you can't have this

  231. part but I'll let you have this part now. We all have to constantly break the box we put

  232. God in to see that he has the potential to do things that we can't fathom. God can break

  233. through in a moment what's been taking you ten years. And God might build something over

  234. ten years that he could do in a moment. I know it was far more encouraging the first

  235. time wasn't it. Romans 12 3-21 which I've labeled proof of purchase. It's the idea that

  236. actually in this setting God has said, "I have died for you, therefore I have given

  237. my life, therefore I'm asking you to give your life." Jesus isn't actually asking us

  238. to do something he isn't willing to do. He's an excellent leader that way. He's not asking

  239. you to participate in a way he wasn't willing to participate. He's saying, "Would you lay

  240. down your life as I laid down my life? Would you participate as I participated? For the

  241. better of others even though I had every reason not to would you participate?" Which also

  242. sort of means for every reason I have not to lay down my life for God he still chose

  243. to do it even though he had every reason not to. Being God is a pretty good reason not

  244. to die. So Paul starts, or sorry Paul keeps it real and he lists how transformation shows

  245. up in our relationships. They'll put some scriptures behind me as I go. First is humility

  246. in Romans 12 verse 3, it says for by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not

    Romans 12:3

  247. to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment.

  248. What is humility? Death to self. Not to think too highly of yourself. It is a death to self.

  249. Romans 12 verse 6, having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us let us

    Romans 12:6

  250. use them. Serving. What is serving? Death to self. My 4 year old has this practice lately,

  251. he doesn't do it with me but he does it with my wife, he's potty trained but he screams,

  252. "Mom, I gotta go pee. Okay, you need to come." And my wife isn't home all the day and I heard

  253. her ask yesterday to the older two children, she's like, "Does he require anyone else to

  254. go to the bathroom with him?" I said, "Nope." "So when I'm away, does he just not go to the

  255. bathroom?" "No, he goes by himself." But every time my wife goes to the bathroom with him

  256. who knows how to pee in the bathroom by himself, she is serving him. She's dying to herself.

  257. She's choosing to give up a part of her life that she doesn't want to for someone else.

  258. This is a death to self. Whether it's humility that God is poking at, hey, actually you think

  259. a little too highly of yourself which is why no one can teach you, which is why you're

  260. hitting the same problems over and over again because you're too arrogant to admit you don't

  261. know what's going on. Maybe that's what God's hitting. Maybe He's saying, "Hey, you only

  262. have time for yourself and when someone asks you to participate in something you're always

  263. looking for how am I getting paid or where's the gift or the benefit from it," where actually

  264. you need to learn to sacrifice yourself on behalf of someone else. Maybe that's what God

  265. is saying, "Are you dead yet?" Because I died to serve you. I died to be humble. Then he

  266. goes on, "Let love be genuine. Uphor what is evil. Hold fast to what is good." Romans 12,

    Romans 12:9

  267. verse 9. What is that? It is death. It's a self. To love is to put someone else ahead

  268. of yourself. To do for someone something that they need over doing for yourself something

  269. that you need. The times that I show the least love to my family is when I'm trying to show

  270. the most love to myself. It's not actually what happens because we know when we try to

  271. show the most love to ourself we actually tend to do the most damage to ourself versus

  272. the other way around but we articulate it as I'm doing this for myself. Love gives up.

  273. It's this funny thing you may remember Jesus' disciples, he asked them how many times do

  274. we have to forgive someone and he says seven times seventy you forgive them. What he's

  275. really saying is he's like you forgive them because you're dead. You forgive them because

  276. nothing can hurt you or nothing can hold on to you as hurt when you've chosen to prefer

  277. others over yourself. Forgiveness is a constant dying to myself. Every time yesterday I had

  278. to I had to apologize for something. It's like a daily practice in my marriage that

  279. I'm apologizing to my wife. I don't know why she doesn't do nearly as many wrong things

  280. as I do but I'll bring that up with God later. But I'm apologizing. It's a death to myself.

  281. It's saying okay I was wrong and instead of trying to dig deeper to prove some point that

  282. doesn't produce anything I want. Anyone do that? Anyone like do something wrong and then

  283. you dig deeper although it's going the opposite direction of where you're wanting to go and

  284. you just keep digging. It's like what are you trying to accomplish here? Romans 12 14

  285. this is bless those who persecute bless and do not curse them blessing enemies. What is

  286. that? Okay what is that? Death to self. What do you mean? Bless my enemies? Are you dead

  287. yet? Are you the walking dead? A living sacrifice. Therefore because of what God's done I then

  288. can give up of myself. Therefore I can bless my enemies. Therefore I can love. Therefore

  289. I can serve. Therefore I can have humility because I know what price someone paid for

  290. me. Romans 12 21 it says do not be overcome by evil but overcome evil with good. Overcoming

  291. evil with good what is that? It's death to self. I'm trying to drive a really unfortunate

  292. point really home to you. Jesus gave everything for you. Amazing. Therefore he's asking you

  293. to give everything for others. Too many times our North American comforts keep us from entering

  294. into the greatness of what God has for us. We're too familiar, we're too used to what

  295. is given to us to understand it. You know I love the reality that even as a pastor like

  296. as a pastor I may do this in the sense of work but it doesn't make me a professional

  297. Christian. Like you know I don't know about you but have you ever been cut off in traffic

  298. and suddenly felt a little less Christian? Me too. Paul says transformation means reacting

  299. differently not just in traffic but in life. My wife she's tuned in so I can say so many

  300. things about her, it's wonderful. No she often says to me when I get mad in traffic about

  301. something, she's like you do realize if you were that person you would be mad at you for

  302. what you're doing. Yeah but I'm not right now. So maybe today the tangible now what

  303. the so what out of this message is writing down the name of someone you struggle to love

  304. and praying for them daily this week and if possible doing one thing to bless them, bless

  305. those who curse you. It's really nice as an idea, really unfortunate as a reality hey,

  306. you're like wait but I know who that person is. Romans 13, 1-7, this is a message to all

  307. Christian. 1-7 this is what was called submitted to authorities which I like to call recognizing

  308. who is in charge and I'll try and go quickly through here this is where I wanted to sit

  309. most of the time but not there. Anyways Paul throws in a curve ball he says respect authority.

  310. Let every person be subject to the governing authorities for there's no authority except

  311. from God and those that exist have been instituted by God. Romans 13 verse 1. Now this doesn't

    Romans 13:1

  312. mean blind obedience. If government commits sin we obey God first. This is what Acts 5

    Acts 5:29

  313. verse 29 tells us but in general Christians should be the best citizens. Yes you're allowed

  314. to be quiet for a moment, paying taxes, respecting leaders, obeying laws. When we forget therefore

  315. we stop living out of the revelation of who God is and what he's done and begin to live

  316. out of our broken humanity. So then maybe the question in this is less actually about governing

  317. authority but rather is God your governing authority? It's rare that I don't hear a sentence

  318. from someone who rejects governing authority that doesn't sound something like this. I

  319. don't do it because it's a stupid law. The speed limit should be a hundred and kilometers

  320. an hour here. The taxes are criminal. Maybe the greater question is are we dead? Are we

  321. living out of the therefore. If we don't get the therefore the rest is dead works, activity

  322. without love. Paul is not speaking about blind obedience but he is speaking about living

  323. a life that is actually submitted to Christ. I wonder if so much of having difficulty submitting

  324. to governing authorities just means you're not really submitted to God. I've learned

  325. in my life that if there's no denial, if there's nothing that I'm denying in my life then there's

  326. a lack of submission in my life too. A life with Christ includes a life of denial. Now

  327. hear this not as a sound bite but hear it in the context. We're talking about the therefore.

  328. We've spent eleven chapters talking about the therefore and now we're getting into the

  329. this is what we're doing. It's the challenge when we go through a topic like this of the

  330. book of Romans is if you take this message you've missed everything in context to everything

  331. else that's in there. Yes Paul is saying this is what we do because of what God has done.

  332. Not this is what we do in spite of but because of this, because of the overflow of that therefore

  333. this is what I do. We obey God before we ever obey authorities or any other thing but so

  334. often how we obey those demonstrate how we really submit to God. As a living sacrifice

  335. I am not dead but I am dead to myself. Symbolized earlier in Romans in the picture of the metaphor

  336. of death that is exemplified by our water baptism. Death to the old man alive to the new in Christ.

  337. It's likely that the moments that we that are difficult and offensive in our walk with

  338. Jesus are spotlights on the area that we've lacked surrender. Maybe this week it's taking

  339. one step toward being a better citizen. To pray for a leader to pay a bill on time or

  340. actually read the rules before clicking I agree. Something I read in preparation said

  341. it's always a sign that we haven't understood this if we spend more time complaining about

  342. a leader than we do praying for them. Complaining is about us. Praying for them is putting it

  343. on God. It demonstrates who I am submitted to. Myself or him. Him being God. Romans 13

  344. 8-14 Paul wraps up with urgency he says the night is far gone the day is at hand. Translation

  345. time is short live like it. Put on the Lord Jesus Christ and make no provision for the

  346. flesh to gratify its desires. It's like if you've had a person show up unexpected a guest

  347. and you're planning on cleaning your house in five minutes. Paul says live every day

  348. like Jesus is about to walk through the door. Don't wait till tomorrow to be submitted to

  349. Christ. Don't wait till tomorrow to live submitted to him. It's not just a message it's a way

  350. of life. Maybe your action is setting a daily reminder live today like Jesus is coming back.

  351. Well let's go back into Romans 12 verses 1-2 this is going to be in the NIV version. The

    Romans 12:1–2

  352. NIV version is in between. It's in between thought translation and direct word for word

  353. translation. Again the same verses that we read in the message the same verses that we

  354. read in the ESV. Therefore I urge you brothers and sisters in view of God's mercy to offer

  355. your bodies as a living sacrifice. Holy and pleasing to God. This is your true and proper

  356. worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world but be transformed by the renewing

  357. of your mind. Then you'll be able to test and approve what God's will is his good, pleasing

  358. and perfect will. Romans 12-3 lays out the therefore of the gospel. Because of Jesus

  359. we surrender everything. We love radically, we respect authority even when it's hard and

  360. we live like time is short. Could you pull out your phone again.

  361. You already texted someone this morning right? And he said thank you for being here. Here's

  362. what I'd like you to do is I'd like you to text them again. But here's what we're going

  363. to do is we're going to text them and say this is what I'm going to do. This is my so

  364. what? This is my now what? Maybe it's renewing your mind. It's that idea of reminding yourself

  365. what God has done. Maybe it's loving someone difficult. It's choosing someone that you're

  366. going to pray for every day this week and trying to find a place to bless them. Maybe

  367. it's praying for your leaders whether those are governing leaders or it's Pastor Kim and

  368. Pastor Dave. Or maybe it's living with urgency that reminder that am I living like God is

  369. coming back today? Jesus is here today. We're going to give a minute with your phone. Text

  370. the person. Don't change the person and just say hey this is what I'm going to do this

  371. week. Guaranteed it's uncomfortable for at least 75-90% of you. You can't change the

  372. how you look. It's much easier to hear than to do. As you're doing that I want to read

  373. the message version. The very first thing I started with and then we'll close in prayer.

  374. at the end of this message. So here's what I want you to do. God helping you. Take your

  375. every day ordinary life. Sleeping, eating, going to work and walking around life. Place

  376. it before God as an offering. Embracing what God does for you is the best thing you can

  377. do for him. Don't become so well adjusted to your culture that you fit into it without

  378. even thinking. Instead, fix your attention on God. You'll be changed from the inside

  379. out. Readily recognize what he wants from you and quickly respond to it. I'm going to

  380. pray. God I thank you that you are present, living, active. God I thank you that you do

  381. not desire for us to stay as we are. God I thank you that when you walk into the rooms

  382. of our house with holes in the walls and broken windows, you don't look and say that's good

  383. enough. You say you're good enough. Nothing is too great for you. God I pray that in the

  384. simplest and smallest of things God that we would choose to take an action. I love the

  385. reality of our lives that it's never about the big actions we take irregularly. It's

  386. the little actions that we take regularly that transform us. So God I pray that we would

  387. be a people in this room that do one little thing today. Nothing beyond our reach. Nothing

  388. beyond our capacity. But we would trust that in a little thing, you would show up. God

  389. bless the people in this room. Bless them with your presence. What you died to give us. Would

  390. we not be rejecting it? In Jesus' name. Amen. Thanks for tuning in today. Each week we gather

  391. in cities across our region and online to explore the truth of freedom available to

  392. all in the message of Jesus Christ. To find a gathering near you or to find out more,

  393. head to c3church.ca.

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