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(BONUS EPISODE) August 10, 2025 - Sunday Evening Bible Study with Larry Walker - Jesus Casting Out Evil Spirits - Mark 9:14

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  1. Father, thank you again for your provisions,

  2. for your love and for your watch care over each

  3. one of us. Thank you that Aaron did get this

  4. insurance. And now Lord, as we turn our focus

  5. away from the worldly things and toward your

  6. word and our behavior and our reaction and different

  7. things, I pray you just Help us to forget all

  8. the things around us and just to focus just these

  9. few minutes on you and what you're trying to

  10. accomplish as we look at these disciples what

  11. you are trying to accomplish in their lives is

  12. really the same thing that you're trying to accomplish

  13. in our lives. Thank you again for your patience

  14. with us. Thank you that you are dependable as

  15. you show through Scripture especially in the

  16. Gospels and in the Old Testament as well that

  17. you were dependable to repeat. We're so so grateful

  18. for that. Help us to be ever dependent upon you.

  19. Thank you again. We just pray for their hearts

  20. as well. Thank you again for your patience and

  21. for your love and for your grace that you show

  22. to us each and every day. In Jesus' name, Amen.

  23. I'm going to read our text first of all tonight

  24. and then I'm going to do our, I guess, our review.

  25. And that way we get a, I think it's important

  26. to read the whole text because that way we get

  27. a whole flow of the story. It said, and when

  28. he came to the disciples, this is Mark 9, 14.

  29. And when he came to the disciples, he saw a great

  30. multitude around them and the scribes disputing

  31. with them. Immediately, when they saw them, all

  32. the people were greatly amazed. and running to

  33. him greeted him. And he asked the scribes, what

  34. are you discussing with them? Then one of the

  35. crowd answered and said, Teacher, I brought you

  36. my son who has a mute spirit. And whenever it

  37. seizes him, it throws him down, it foams up the

  38. mouth, gnashes his teeth, and becomes rigid.

  39. So I spoke to your disciples that they should

  40. cast it out. But they could not. He answered

  41. and said, O faithless generation, how long shall

  42. I be with you? How long shall I bear with you?

  43. Bring him to me. Then they brought him to him.

  44. And when he saw him, immediately the spirit convulsed

  45. him, and he fell on the ground and wallowed,

  46. honing half a mile. So he asked his father, how

  47. long has this been happening to him? And he said

  48. from childhood, and often he has thrown him both

  49. into the fire and into the water to destroy.

  50. But if you can do anything, have compassion on

  51. us and help us. And Jesus said to him, if you

  52. can believe, all things are possible to him who

  53. believes. Immediately the father of the child

  54. cried out and said with tears, Lord, I believe.

  55. helped my unbelief. When Jesus saw that the people

  56. came running together, he rebuked the unclean

  57. spirit, saying to it, Death, a mute spirit, I

  58. command you, come out of him and enter him no

  59. more. Then the spirit cried out and bulged him

  60. greatly and came out of him, and he became his

  61. one death. So that many said, he is dead. But

  62. Jesus took him by the hand. lifted him up, and

  63. he arose. And when he had come into the house,

  64. his disciples asked him probably, why could we

  65. not cast it out? He said to them, this kind can

  66. come out by nothing but prayer and fasting. By

  67. prayer and fasting. As we come again to Mark.

  68. We are not too far from the base of Mount Huron,

  69. where Jesus and his closest disciples Peter,

  70. James, and John have just came down from the

  71. Mount of Transfiguration. What they arrive to

  72. is Jesus's other nine disciples are in argument

  73. with the scribes, and a great number of people

  74. are surrounding them. What we find out is that

  75. the desperate father has Has come bringing his

  76. only son who is demon possessed and has been

  77. has been to be healed by Jesus But Jesus was

  78. not there. So they asked Jesus's disciples to

  79. heal They were known for doing miracles before

  80. As we have found out they could not heal the

  81. boy. I believe this is where the argument began

  82. The scribe sees the opportunity to discredit

  83. not only Jesus' disciples, but Jesus as well.

  84. Naturally, this will bring doubt to the onlookers,

  85. including, I believe, this boy's father. We have

  86. seen where it has caused doubt in him. So as

  87. the story progresses, there have been some things

  88. we have seen. The boy's father spoke. before

  89. anyone else can and begins to tell why he is

  90. there. I brought my son to you who needs healing

  91. and is demon possessed. And the father gives

  92. a brief description of why he believes his son

  93. is demon possessed. He has a mute spirit, he's

  94. thrown to the ground, he foams up the mouth,

  95. he grinds his teeth, becomes rigid, which I which

  96. can mean to waste away, meaning he's lost a lot

  97. of weight and things. And it can mean to stiffen

  98. up. He tells this to Jesus, and that his disciples

  99. had failed at healing his son. And Jesus' reply

  100. was, O faithless generation, it's as if Jesus

  101. can't believe what has been shown to them all.

  102. Over the past two and a half years, all the miracles,

  103. signs, and wonders, and teachings like no other.

  104. Even the religious leaders knew this. And yet,

  105. they are without faith. Jesus says, bring the

  106. boy to me. As he is being brought, an evil spirit

  107. is wrecking havoc on him. Looks as if it is trying

  108. to kill him. Mark gives a vivid picture. of what

  109. it looks like. You know, and one preacher I listen

  110. to says if they were going to do a movie, Mark

  111. gives a lot of details in his gospels. He doesn't

  112. necessarily quote a lot of scripture, but he

  113. gives details where you can make a movie about

  114. where the other two gospels don't, Luke and Matthew.

  115. So Mark gives us a very vivid picture of what

  116. this demon -possessed boy looks like. And Mark

  117. gives us twice as long, if not three times as

  118. long, of a picture of this story than the other

  119. two gospels, which is kind of rare in Mark, because

  120. Mark is usually... Boom right next to the next

  121. story, but this one gets a lot of attention As

  122. all this is happening Jesus is listening to the

  123. father Tell his story and we talked about that

  124. before Jesus asked him how long he's been like

  125. that. He wanted the father to tell a story To

  126. where everyone around could hear especially the

  127. disciples Which seems like a hopeless case. At

  128. the end of the Father's story, out of desperation,

  129. he asked Jesus, if you can do anything, have

  130. compassion on us and help us. You know, that's

  131. man's final plea too. Should be the gospel. The

  132. gospel should, when all else fails, And man will

  133. try everything before coming to the gospel. There's

  134. an empty void that's inside all of us. We're

  135. going to talk a little more about that. But it

  136. seems like man will try everything before coming

  137. to the gospel. And in verse 23 it says, Jesus

  138. replied, if you can believe, all things are possible

  139. to him who believes. Immediately, the father

  140. of the child cried out and said with tears, Lord,

  141. I believe. Help my unbelief. I love that. I love

  142. how the father puts it. I mean, he's just, he's

  143. not holding nothing back. He's saying these things

  144. with tears. And he's just putting it out on the

  145. tape. It doesn't matter who's listening. He just

  146. needs help and wants help. Well, we can empathize

  147. with that. We can't, especially with our own

  148. kids and things. A lifetime with that situation.

  149. Oh, no one knows how long it's been. A long time.

  150. You're exhausted. I mean, you are mentally exhausted.

  151. And you're approaching this teacher who by all

  152. rights is supposed to be able to alleviate this.

  153. I mean, you've seen nothing happen up till now,

  154. you know. Nothing's worked. And you're out of

  155. your mind. Now this is like the last stop right

  156. here. You're white. Mentally white. And you're

  157. supposed to believe that this man can cast this

  158. demon out of your soul. And to have that kind

  159. of a response. That is an end of the line response

  160. right there. And the big thing is... I don't

  161. believe. Help me with my unbelief. That's right.

  162. I want to believe. How can I believe that you

  163. can do this? Well, obviously he had some belief

  164. because he brought him to Jesus. He did. Yeah.

  165. But he found out pretty quick that it didn't

  166. seem to help. Yeah, and that's why I think it

  167. was because his disciples had failed. Right.

  168. That's right. Why did his disciples fail? Because

  169. I don't think they were the same thing. They

  170. were. Jesus had a prayer infesting. They were.

  171. And we're going to look at that. They forget

  172. to pray? Well, in short, in short, we fall into

  173. this same trap of teaching or doing something

  174. a certain way and we get self -dependent, even

  175. in our jobs, even in the things that we do and

  176. sometimes we forget where that authority comes

  177. from. And I believe this had happened to these

  178. disciples. They had a certain method of doing

  179. things. And early in their ministry, they were

  180. relying on the power of God because He gave them

  181. the authority. And He hadn't taken that authority

  182. away. But they just wasn't relying on His strength.

  183. They were relying on their own ability. You know,

  184. we talked about that last time. I'm telling this

  185. demon to get out. They only came by fasting and

  186. praying, right? Getting your mind back where

  187. it needed to be. That's right. Jesus always fasts,

  188. always prays. We're going to talk about that

  189. more toward the end. sicknesses and healings

  190. that Jesus gave you, the thoracic that you've

  191. overcome, were gone pretty quickly. It wasn't

  192. a great hassle until then. And we'll talk about

  193. later. Really, this is what looks to be like

  194. a trial run for these disciples. It's really

  195. the first time that they've been away, Jesus

  196. and these three leaders. And it's interesting

  197. to me that they were gone as well. Peter, especially

  198. Peter since he was, I don't know if you'd call

  199. him a ringleader, but he was one of the chief

  200. apostles or chief disciples. And they had been

  201. called away and this I believe is a little test

  202. for them. They failed. They failed. That's right.

  203. Because of their self -reliance on themselves.

  204. It was a good learning experience for them. There's

  205. a reason why this whole context is here about

  206. them arguing. And you can just see that where

  207. Jesus and, like you say, your James and John

  208. of God were absent, right? Meanwhile, all this

  209. gathers and there's healing maybe, probably some

  210. other healing going on perhaps, and then all

  211. of a sudden this situation rises and you start

  212. getting... And when you get into an argument

  213. with somebody, your pride starts... Oh yeah,

  214. I'm... yeah. And then I think you're on the right

  215. target there, that you start getting self -reliant

  216. and you forget where you're... resources and

  217. Peter who is the one that is primary source for

  218. Mark's account. In his epistle, 1 Peter writes,

  219. God opposes the problem against grace and honor.

  220. I think you may be right about that. So I wonder

  221. about it too, how do they not have the power

  222. to do this? Yeah, again, you know why why is

  223. that need to tell him about the argument? I think

  224. there's there for a reason. Yeah and Yeah We

  225. looked at this verse last time short version

  226. is the father believed Jesus wants To help but

  227. the circumstances surrounding this event has

  228. put doubt that Jesus simply can't And that's,

  229. I say that because of the disciples' prayer to

  230. be able to heal. If the disciples can't do it,

  231. then most likely Jesus can't do it. I think the

  232. disciples got used to having that authority,

  233. and then when it seemed to fail the way it had

  234. done in the past, they were trying to reconcile

  235. that. Then it looked like to the Father that

  236. it was not going to work out. Yeah, I agree.

  237. I agree. The disciples have much to learn about

  238. their lack of dependence on divine power from

  239. above. We will say they were not in communication

  240. with the one who gave them the authority they

  241. had. And I say that because of that last verse,

  242. verse 29, this kind can come out by nothing but

  243. prayer and fasting. You know, we're going to

  244. talk more about that, but we should constantly,

  245. the Bible tells us to constantly be in a state

  246. of prayer. And I think that's not simply with

  247. your head bowed. That's being constantly aware

  248. of God's presence around you all the time. And

  249. that communication, just thinking, you know,

  250. referring back to scripture. and including him

  251. in your thoughts about different things that

  252. you're going to do, even your work or your activities

  253. or your play or whatever, just recognizing. You

  254. know, we were out fishing yesterday, me and a

  255. couple of fellas, and just God's beauty, I was

  256. just aware of creation that God had created and

  257. the beauty of it. Pray in or anything like that,

  258. but just being constantly aware, you know But

  259. but in certain circumstances I'll mention this

  260. again, but in certain certain circumstances You

  261. need more prayer. I Mean you need to separate

  262. yourself and I think that's where the fasting

  263. comes in if you have a hard situation to come

  264. to That's just not normal every day things or

  265. incidences, so you need to confront somebody.

  266. And a lot of us have had to do that. Not just

  267. about spiritual things, but about other things.

  268. You want to make sure you spend time in prayer

  269. about that. I don't always do that. Sometimes

  270. when I confront somebody, it's on the spur of

  271. the moment. You know, you're retaliating, I guess

  272. we did. Better word, but you don't need to do

  273. that. You need to you need to pray about it And

  274. then even if that if you don't feel like that's

  275. sufficient Do without something in your life

  276. and that's what fasting is doing without something

  277. that you normally do For a particular purpose

  278. and that would be pray about that situation And

  279. apparently they had not considered this prayer

  280. Or he wouldn't have mentioned it down here in

  281. verse 29 Yeah, I was going to ask that a little

  282. bit. That fasting is not just food, is it? No,

  283. it could be. It could be anything. Any worldly

  284. pleasure at all. Yeah, it could be anything.

  285. We associate it with food. You're right. Well,

  286. food's pretty good, ain't it, Pastor? Yeah, it

  287. is. That's a tough one. That's one of the toughest.

  288. Yeah. But I guess, yeah, any worldly input, just

  289. stop it. Yeah, the Bible uses that also with

  290. having a relationship with your wife. Yeah. We've

  291. seen from that whole period. I think they had

  292. television back in the day. Television would

  293. be at the top of the list. Exactly. I was thinking

  294. about that too. Fascinating. Because that takes

  295. up a lot of time. Fishing shows. Soccer games

  296. and fishing shows and stuff. Exactly. How worldly.

  297. I believe this man's request was answered. The

  298. Bible doesn't tell us that explicitly. But the

  299. Bible tells us that his son was healed. And I

  300. believe the man's faith had grown from this experience.

  301. Does it say fasting? Oh, okay. That in verse

  302. 29? Well, let's look at his prayer translations.

  303. Well, this is the legacy we got here, but it

  304. just says prayer. I think this is the King James

  305. version of New King James is this one. I think

  306. this one is, no I think this one just says this

  307. is the King James, the one that's got all three.

  308. I like it because it's got all three of them

  309. right back to back so I can compare them really

  310. easily. The point is that prayer was needed.

  311. Apparently the disciples didn't look for it.

  312. How hard is prayer? Serious prayer, if you're

  313. not fast. Every time you do the same prayer,

  314. and just like that, you're off somewhere else.

  315. You're not in prayer at all. Especially if you're

  316. driving and praying. I think more than just prayer,

  317. it was a special kind of prayer because of the

  318. situation. Pretty serious situation. Pretty heavy.

  319. I think so. He came humbly asking in a submissive

  320. way, acknowledging Jesus as Lord. If you notice,

  321. he called him Lord there. Jesus will not turn

  322. away from those asking in this way with the right

  323. spirit and the right heart. We know God does

  324. the drawing, and I'm not leaving that out of

  325. the equation, but this man does come with a humble,

  326. and we can see the humbleness in the words that

  327. he says. And then Mark jumps quickly to the next

  328. scene. in verse 25, when Jesus saw that the people

  329. came running to get him. It seems Jesus does

  330. his healing away from the crowd. Remember, his

  331. ministry and work for the multitude is basically

  332. over. He is focused on his chosen twelve. Jesus

  333. is preparing his disciples as leaders. Being

  334. a leader often requires being a servant. Mark's

  335. gospel demonstrates Jesus as a servant. And we've

  336. talked about that toward the beginning of chapter

  337. nine, the end of chapter eight is where Jesus

  338. is making his descent toward Jerusalem or toward

  339. Calvary. And so he's turned away from the people

  340. more or less, but he's still got some things

  341. he needs to. to teach his disciples, and I think

  342. Mark gives us 10 or 11. It's on the back of that

  343. clipboard. I wrote them down on that last page

  344. there. The last two ones are sticking out. Lessons

  345. that Jesus will teach his disciples in the next

  346. chapter or two. The first one is faith. The second

  347. one is humility. The third one is offenses. The

  348. fourth one is seriousness of sin, marriage and

  349. divorce, a place of children in the kingdom,

  350. earthly riches, true wealth, leadership, sacrificial

  351. service. And then chapter 10, verses 46 to 52

  352. is on faith again. So he begins on faith here.

  353. and he ends up again on faith. And then in chapter

  354. 11, Jesus enters Jerusalem. So there's several

  355. things that we're going to be looking at that

  356. Jesus is heading towards and he's training these

  357. disciples. It seems Jesus is not looking for

  358. repair or the attention. It may even be Jesus

  359. wanted to get this done. in a hurry before the

  360. crowd came. He rebukes the unclean spirit. Jesus

  361. shows authority over the spiritual world, which

  362. will speak volumes to his disciples. Notice again

  363. the action that Jesus shows. Say to it, deaf

  364. and dumb spirit, I command you, come out of him

  365. and enter him no more. Notice Jesus himself speaks

  366. directly to it on his authority from God. Matthew

  367. 28, 18, Jesus said to them, all authority in

  368. heaven and on earth has been given to me. All

  369. authority comes from heaven and is delegated

  370. from heaven. Jesus received that earthly delegation

  371. and therefore he was able to delegate it as he

  372. wills. We know he did this. to his earthly apostles,

  373. that's in Matthew 10, 5 to 8, and also to 72

  374. others to heal the sick in Luke 10, 1 to 11.

  375. So he gives certain people, and we know even

  376. in the New Testament he delegated that authority

  377. to Paul because he was able to do some miracles,

  378. but it wasn't to everyone. Jesus told us who,

  379. basically, he delegated those signs to, those

  380. miracles. And it was, again, not for their benefit,

  381. but to prove who he was, to prove who Jesus was.

  382. We have been delegated, I believe, as believers

  383. to make disciples of all nations. Our job is

  384. to train followers of Jesus. those He calls out

  385. of darkness. So we've not been delegated to do

  386. miracles and things like that, but we have been

  387. delegated to make disciples. You got something

  388. to say, Dave? He was in constant prayer, so He

  389. did the will of the Father. And like you said,

  390. we're delegated to make disciples. Now Jesus

  391. didn't just... He did the will of His Father,

  392. and He showed up here. He was totally up to the

  393. Holy Spirit to... orchestrate the rest of it

  394. through time to bring all the examples and everything

  395. right before Christ to use it as an example.

  396. He's teaching these disciples. I mean it wasn't

  397. just Melee that this guy showed up with his son

  398. to exemplify the teachings that he just made

  399. while they were walking along the road, you know.

  400. And as you disciple, ship, others. I believe

  401. those instances come in right in front of you,

  402. too, to be an example or to show them the power

  403. of God. The Holy Spirit, he's never been sitting

  404. down relaxing much, has he? I mean, the more

  405. that you see these type of events and stuff like

  406. that, and the way he orchestrates these events

  407. in the life of Christ. We see it easily in the

  408. Father's actions and the Holy Spirit's actions.

  409. It's definitely not just the Son and the Father.

  410. You're right. It's the Holy Spirit that does

  411. it all. It's been done for generations and generations

  412. to make this one point in time. With this man

  413. and his son, and the son's need and desire. It's

  414. easy for us to pick these things out of Scripture.

  415. We can read on them, re -read on them. we can

  416. get this visual picture, but when it happens

  417. to us, it's... But he does that through our entire

  418. life. We miss a lot of it. Yeah, it's hard for

  419. us to see. But he brings those examples in front

  420. of you a bunch, and we miss the mark quite often.

  421. We miss the point of the hard time. So Jesus

  422. commands the evil spirit to come out of this

  423. boy, and that's not all. He says, never enter

  424. him again. As I read through this story, it is

  425. one of the most severe cases of demon possession,

  426. maybe even equal to the man in the tombs in Mark

  427. 5, 1 -20. We have seen how severely beaten this

  428. boy has been. By all human wisdom, he should

  429. have been dead. There may have been more than

  430. one demon to do all this damage. I don't know

  431. the Greek language here. But it seems he may

  432. have been Demon possessed more than one time

  433. With more than one coming in because it says

  434. enter him no more And I'm not sure if this if

  435. if he had been demon possessed and the demons

  436. left You know, there's a I think it's over Matthew

  437. where it says that Demons can come in and if

  438. they leave Remember the house is swept clean,

  439. or you've cleaned up your life, but the house

  440. is still empty. But there are more demons even

  441. worse than the first that can come in. The 325

  442. says come out again and enter him no more. The

  443. question, can a soul of a person be unoccupied?

  444. And I looked that up on Google. The Bible suggests

  445. that souls should be occupied ideally by the

  446. Holy Spirit, and a relationship with God rather

  447. than being left empty and vulnerable to negative

  448. influences of worldly pursuits that ultimately

  449. leave people feeling unfilled. Matthew 12, 43

  450. -45. These verses suggest that a person's soul

  451. can be empty, but if so, it is in danger of being

  452. occupied by evil spirits. And if not occupied,

  453. influenced by them. Satan or his demons are not

  454. our worst enemy. You know, and sometimes we think

  455. that. We think that Satan... and his demons are

  456. our worst enemy. But our worst enemy is our own

  457. selves. It's our sin. Our sin is our worst enemy

  458. and it does us the most harm. All that said,

  459. we all do have an empty place in our soul that

  460. only God can fill. We try to fill it with earthly

  461. pleasures and we never can. Jesus tells us that

  462. this evil spirit Will never enter him again He

  463. was protected from being occupied by evil spirits

  464. again There's only one way to do that To fill

  465. the void It would seem like I Don't know I don't

  466. know if that's the case. I mean Jesus has all

  467. authority over the spiritual world That was my

  468. initial thought, Dave, that this boy came to

  469. a point of salvation. But the Bible doesn't tell

  470. us that. He just tells us that he commanded that

  471. the evil spirits not go there anymore. It may

  472. suggest that he was occupied now. It could just

  473. be a suggestion. I mean, and that's a very logical...

  474. suggestion, but I'm not. I don't know if I'm

  475. willing to go that far. We've seen the father's

  476. plea on the boy's behalf, but we never hear from

  477. the boy. You know, we can go on behalf of our

  478. children all day long, but they're the ones that

  479. have to make the final say. I'm sure that had

  480. an impact on the boy, too, later on. I'm sure.

  481. I'm sure. I'm sure. You're right. If he does

  482. it around no go, that's awful. And Jesus shows

  483. a lot of compassion. He had a lot of compassion

  484. for people. And it is very possible that he said

  485. this boy has suffered enough. No more. But it

  486. doesn't say that. It doesn't say that. It doesn't

  487. say either way. It doesn't say either way. He

  488. just commanded him not to come back. Not to come

  489. back. He said he was healed. Yeah. Yeah. It's

  490. like the moment they get a dog, it goes in no

  491. more. Yeah. Yeah. But the Bible does say that

  492. if you're occupied by the Spirit, by the Spirit,

  493. that you can't be occupied by anything else.

  494. Never. Never. That's pretty cool. So I'm gonna

  495. leave it at that. That's pretty cool. And according

  496. to Mark, he left it at that too then. He left

  497. it at that. And time to move. Yeah, Mark and

  498. Peter, they left it at that. As Jesus commands,

  499. we can see the resistance of the evil spirit,

  500. or at least, again, this evil spirit trying to

  501. kill this boy. In verse 26, it says, then the

  502. evil spirit cried out, convulsed him greatly,

  503. and he came out of him. Again, we see the disciples

  504. see how great the authority of Jesus is. And

  505. one, they can put their faith in. And again,

  506. Jesus' ministry here is to these disciples. So

  507. the healing of this boy is a by -product of Jesus

  508. working through the disciples, wanting to teach

  509. his disciples something. And that's okay. If

  510. God wants to bring good to my life because of

  511. my wife, then I'll take it. It's okay. It don't

  512. have to be because of me. If it's because of

  513. her, it's almost like an unbeliever being married

  514. to a believer. The unbeliever. sanctified or

  515. set apart. That's right. That's right. The cause

  516. of this bullying. It's almost like that demon

  517. was unusual and resistive and determined to do

  518. it his own way. He convulsed him and stuff like

  519. that. for a beginning, for a moment or two until

  520. Jesus and you come out. Yeah, that was it. It

  521. probably also displays the great authority that

  522. Jesus had when we needed this kind of resistance.

  523. Yeah, John McArthur said at the very least this

  524. boy should have been severely had brain injuries.

  525. Yeah. And it gives him... statistics on football

  526. players that get hit so many times and what do

  527. they call that? CTE. What is it? CTG. Yeah, but

  528. not necessarily the brain traumatic. Concussions.

  529. Concussions. Concussions. Having several of them

  530. can lead to that. Yeah, that's the word I would

  531. look for. Is that the same thing as sick to you,

  532. Brian? Sorry? Is that the same thing as sick

  533. to you? No. Pay attention. I'm just kind of drifting.

  534. Okay. Yeah, yeah. But you're right. God did save

  535. him. Save him from that. I think what else is

  536. interesting here is that Jesus says, bring him

  537. to me. So they bring the boy, and then apparently

  538. he wasn't convulsing and whatever by that point,

  539. but as soon as the demon, the boy sees Jesus,

  540. he fills him. And this whole conversation that

  541. he has with the Father then, how long has this

  542. been happening? Meanwhile, he's in the background,

  543. he's convulsing, foaming in the mouth and carrying

  544. on, and they're just having this little conversation.

  545. I just, I don't know what to make of that other

  546. than here's another example of where Jesus is

  547. just completely chill. Yeah. About things that

  548. I would be freaking out. I'd be like, let's get

  549. this guy quiet. Let's help my son. So that we

  550. can talk. You know, we'll have a conversation

  551. later. Yeah. Or even the father, you know, let's

  552. talk about this later. Let's heal him now. Yeah,

  553. right. You're right. We talked about that in

  554. our... one bible study you may have missed it

  555. but we talked about that how as Jesus is calling

  556. him that this evil spirit is wrecking havoc on

  557. this boy and they are just they're having this

  558. conversation and the father's pouring out his

  559. heart to Jesus giving him even more detail than

  560. he did at the beginning you know and again as

  561. this As the boy would walk by either fire or

  562. water, this evil spirit would break him down

  563. to where he would fall into that fire. Where

  564. he would fall into the water. It was just at

  565. random. I mean, the evil spirit had his will

  566. and way over that boy. And it was for this very

  567. purpose, I believe. of teaching these disciples

  568. about faith. I thank God. Also, when the boy

  569. was convulsing, and it says that the father kept

  570. talking to Jesus, it shows that Jesus was not

  571. desperate or concerned that maybe something would

  572. happen too severe for him. He was in charge,

  573. even with all the... Language all the argument

  574. everything that Jesus knew he was in charge and

  575. he was not gonna let happen what? That's right

  576. It says as the spirit came out and he began And

  577. he became as one dead so that many said he is

  578. dead It appeared to all witnesses that Jesus

  579. had lost the battle the boy is dead until verse

  580. 27. Jesus took him by the hand and lifted him

  581. up and he arose. Luke adds that and he went back

  582. to his father. Jesus has seen many times taking

  583. people in need by the hand or touching them and

  584. Mark 1 .31 remember Peter's mother -in -law.

  585. who Jesus heals. Mark 1, 41, the leper that wanted

  586. to be cleansed, and Jesus touched him. Mark 5,

  587. 41, the ruler of the synagogue's daughter, where

  588. Jesus and I think three of his disciples at that

  589. time, too, went into her. And I think the parents

  590. went into, and Jesus touched her, and she rose

  591. from the dead. And then the blind man, who was

  592. healed in stages, in 823. And then after this

  593. event, after he rose up, he was healed, he went

  594. back to his father, Jesus goes into a house away

  595. from the crowds, verse 28, went in and come into

  596. the house, his disciples asked him privately,

  597. why could we not cast it out? And that was a

  598. good question, a very good question. And he said

  599. to them, this kind can come out by nothing but

  600. prayer and fasting. The disciples evidently began

  601. to trust in themselves and maybe their methods

  602. of miracles. Their faith had turned away from

  603. depending on God's authority to their own abilities.

  604. And you know, I overheard Pastor Peter one time

  605. tell a missionary, that we supported years ago,

  606. not to drift from depending on God's activity

  607. and his ministry to his own abilities. That was

  608. because he was a very gifted and very interesting

  609. speaker. Do you remember that? No. I do. I remember

  610. that very vividly. Just here in the background,

  611. it was that... That family that went over to

  612. Rome, went over to Rome, had them kids and then

  613. came back. He was a very gifted speaker. And

  614. I remember Pastor Peter telling me, I remember

  615. when they came to our church and spoke. I remember

  616. very vividly, Pastor Peter, you told me that.

  617. That's really stuck with me. And it is true,

  618. it's very true. You know, it's interesting what

  619. sticks in your brain when a lot of other things

  620. don't. But I remember that very, very vividly.

  621. That's good for any kind of ministry, whether

  622. it's preaching or singing or whatever it is.

  623. It's easy to rely on your gifts. That's right.

  624. Yeah, even teaching. You know, you do it time

  625. and time and time again and eventually you build

  626. up a confidence, I guess. And you can, that confidence

  627. can be... direct it on yourself rather than on

  628. God and His Word. I don't have that problem.

  629. I'm not a very gifted speaker. Well, at the time,

  630. the Holy Spirit would tell the man, not for his

  631. benefit, but for your eavesdropping. For my eavesdropping.

  632. So be careful what you say in church. I've only

  633. been worried where Larry Walker is, been worried.

  634. I mean, he's spoken to the man. The man might

  635. have been looking out the window. But just like

  636. when he's up there at the pulpit, I'm sure you

  637. can see the faces. You can. And you can see when

  638. you're speaking, even though it's not even in

  639. your notes and you're speaking, you don't even

  640. know why you're speaking it. The Holy Spirit's

  641. speaking it. And that person's reaction immediately...

  642. absorb it. And then you get back to your notes.

  643. Why was that done? That was for that person.

  644. And he told it to the missionary. For you to

  645. hear, I mean the other guy probably heard too,

  646. but for you to hear and for it to affect your

  647. life. That's just what he does. That says a lot

  648. about this prayer. Prayer is necessary, so don't

  649. go before, and I've done it. I've picked up my

  650. Bible and started studying, writing notes before

  651. ever praying. I'm guilty of that, and that's

  652. not the way it needs to be. You need to go humbly

  653. in prayer, asking the Lord to show you and give

  654. you direction. and give your thoughts, clarity

  655. of thoughts, and things like this. And your understanding

  656. of all these things. No, it ain't. You didn't

  657. write it. No. And that's why you compare Scripture

  658. with Scripture. That's why you compare Scripture

  659. to Scripture. Matthew 17 .20 says it plainly.

  660. It says, because of your unbelief. And the ESV,

  661. that's in the New King James, the ESV reads,

  662. because of your little faith. Matthew even says,

  663. he says a little more, he gives a little story,

  664. Matthew even says, a little bit of faith can

  665. accomplish things unheard of. And he compares,

  666. if you have a little bit of faith as a mustard

  667. seed. And that is small. I've never seen a mustard

  668. seed. I don't know if it's a small seed. It's

  669. a small seed and a small amount of faith can

  670. move a mountain. That's what it says over Matthew

  671. concerning this account too. This whole scene...

  672. was like a trial run. Jesus and the lead disciples

  673. were absent and they failed. More work being

  674. needed. It also seems to imply that there are

  675. situations that may take more prayers and even

  676. fasting. Our life should be one constantly in

  677. true communion with God, always being aware of

  678. His presence and involvement. in our lives. But

  679. at times, more wisdom is required and should

  680. be asked for in special prayer and even fasting.

  681. So the faith was the big issue. So we finished

  682. that whole section tonight, which I'm glad. Thank

  683. you. But that's essential. I like your little

  684. addition there. And so more work to be done.

  685. More work to be done. More work to be done on

  686. us. Another failure. More work to be done. More

  687. work to be done on us and on these disciples.

  688. So as we read it, we put ourselves in their situations.

  689. The scripture is speaking to us just like it

  690. is speaking to them. The disciples just didn't

  691. have it together like we do. We seem like that

  692. sometimes. Yeah, we do. We think that. They needed

  693. some serious work, didn't they? We can look at

  694. it like that sometimes. I can't believe they

  695. couldn't just see it. Yeah, they could just pick

  696. up the Bible and read it for themselves. That's

  697. right. Because they hadn't written it yet. We

  698. are very blessed to live on this side of the

  699. cross. More and more every day I realize that.

  700. Every time I pick the Bible up, I'm very appreciative

  701. of living on this side of the cross. I sure am.

  702. One of our many Bibles. One of our many Bibles.

  703. That's right. Many, many. I'm glad we also don't

  704. have to take lambs down to the temple for the

  705. slaughter. Get some of those places. They get

  706. a chapter tore out and handed to them, you know?

  707. Yeah. to pass around chapters, that's right.

  708. They're excited to get it. So, Diana, if you

  709. want to close us in first. You got anything to

  710. add? I was just thinking. Think out loud. That's

  711. what you're supposed to do, is think out loud.

  712. Now I was just thinking, Jesus as an example,

  713. I would say that He prayed before He did none

  714. of miracles. And as an example, I don't know,

  715. you know, that the disciples, we were healing

  716. everything. Does that mean that they weren't

  717. praying before? You know what I'm saying? The

  718. healings? Yeah, where they actually, when He

  719. gave them the authority, where they actually...

  720. praying before they were doing When he kept when

  721. he sent him out two by two, is that what you're

  722. is that what you mean? I Don't know there was

  723. a more dependence upon Upon Jesus and the authority

  724. that was given to I think because I think it

  725. was brand new and it was it was something that

  726. they They cherished and they realized where that

  727. authority came from they realized Jesus is authority

  728. because it's something that they've never done

  729. before I mean this was I mean if I had the power

  730. of healing I would Where'd this come from? You

  731. know it came from Jesus man. You know I'd be

  732. thanking You know thank you Lord that I can do

  733. this, but as time goes on You know it's even

  734. even like when we're first first saved it's been

  735. said many times when you first saved you're very

  736. very appreciative and you want to spread the

  737. gospel and you want to tell people but as time

  738. goes on it just kind of becomes get over it get

  739. over it kind of thing you know and i think that's

  740. what had happened to them i think they were very

  741. dependent on Jesus in the beginning Jesus also

  742. identified that spirit by saying this kind So

  743. maybe it was because of the kind of spirit that

  744. they were dealing with? Were they dealing with

  745. health issues? They were dealing with everything.

  746. They were casting out demons. It could have been

  747. a different spirit. And that's why I was saying,

  748. situations in our life... Take more than just

  749. a casual prayer. Like I said about confrontations

  750. and things like that which I'm not good at. I

  751. always pray about a confrontation before I go

  752. because I don't want to do it. I hate confronting

  753. somebody about anything. Usually I stay awake

  754. all night worrying about it. Am I gonna hurt

  755. this person's feelings? And prayer, actually.

  756. Fighting that, with that boldness. I want to

  757. be bold and do that, and yet I'm not wanting

  758. to. So I'm asking God to help me to make that

  759. choice. I know the choice I need to make, but

  760. I'm asking for... confirmation for that choice,

  761. I guess. As well as the church prayed that the

  762. Lord would give them bonus. Yeah, and I pray

  763. the same thing. And I think some things require

  764. a deeper prayer. I think so. And I think that's

  765. the point here. This kind of spirit requires

  766. something more. I think that's what fasting is,

  767. is intensifying self -denial and self -pray.

  768. That's the missing ministry in the church that

  769. we don't fancy. I guess we're not desperate enough,

  770. really. Well, like I said, sometimes I do it

  771. without... One particular thing I can remember,

  772. when the guys started putting my roof on, and

  773. they were friends of family, and when I came

  774. home, they put four or five sheets. sheets up

  775. and it looked terrible. I mean, it had big dents

  776. in it. Screw it. And I knew that evening. I knew

  777. that day I was going to have to call them that

  778. next morning and tell them, you know, I don't

  779. need your services. And I laid awake all night,

  780. all night, debating over that. How do I say it?

  781. And I prayed and I lost sleep. And I guess that

  782. could be a type of fasting without even realizing

  783. it, you know. You kept yourself from sleep or

  784. rest. It was. Instead of food, it was rest. It

  785. wasn't even something that I even thought about

  786. as far as fasting, but it's just something that

  787. naturally happened. You deprived yourself of

  788. sleep or rest. Yeah, and that next day I called

  789. that fellow that next morning and I said, I hate

  790. to tell you, but I said, the job that you're

  791. doing is just not up to par with what I was expecting.

  792. He said, well, he said, I'll come back out and

  793. take it down. And he says, we'll be done. I said,

  794. yeah. I said, I'm going to pay you for a day's

  795. work, a day's labor. And I think I gave him $500

  796. for the day for him and the guy. They came down

  797. and took it. Took it down and that was it. I

  798. was just thinking about that, I hadn't thought

  799. about that before, but that fasting coming in,

  800. laying awake all night, thinking about that,

  801. praying about that, and some situations just

  802. take more prayer and doing without something

  803. to have an outcome that's suitable. And the guy

  804. wasn't mad, you know, I don't know, maybe...

  805. I think he would have been mad at himself. I

  806. don't know, screw it. Yeah, but anyhow, maybe

  807. he didn't think it was a shot of job, but anyhow.

  808. But that fasting, that was the point of the story

  809. there. Kyle laid awake, doing without sleep.

  810. You beat yourself a little bit. Yeah, I didn't

  811. even know if I was fasting, but I looked back

  812. on it. Anyhow, anything else? No, that was a

  813. very good lesson. It was? On faith. That's what

  814. I said this morning. in some of the school we

  815. weren't there for, but we've been introducing

  816. John 17 where this is Jesus' prayer. It's the

  817. longest prayer of his recorded in scriptures.

  818. And I've been studying the armor of God in Ephesians,

  819. the very end of Ephesians. Thursday Bible study,

  820. we're entering that. And you see this close parallel

  821. there where, of course, Jesus... as our higher

  822. priest is praying for us and receiving for us.

  823. But we're called to do the same thing in the

  824. context of spiritual war. Paul, that's where

  825. we get the believer's armor, right? The armor

  826. of God. And a lot of people, myself included,

  827. there's six pieces of armor there, but there's

  828. seven ingredients. Six of them have armor, but

  829. the last one is prayer. Paul says this praying

  830. at all times with all prayer petition in the

  831. spirit and to this end being on the alert with

  832. all person and petition for all the saints as

  833. well as on my behalf that words may be given

  834. to me and opening my mouth to make known with

  835. boldness mystery of the gospel which I am an

  836. ambassador of things that I may choose so that

  837. in proclaiming it I may speak boldly as I ought

  838. to speak. It's kind of similar to what you're

  839. saying. But here, he's talking about each believer

  840. putting on the armor, but then us, the importance

  841. of us praying for one another. And I've just

  842. been, not that you never say, oh prayer's not

  843. important, we all know it's important, but in

  844. the context of spiritual warfare, prayer is absolutely

  845. indispensable as part of God's equipment that

  846. he's given us. for each other. So you put on

  847. your armor, but you're praying for God's strength

  848. and support and blessing for believers as well.

  849. As Paul says here, to speak boldly, to exercise

  850. the gifts that God's given each of us. That's

  851. important. That's why it's important. Vital it

  852. is, you know, I mean Satan is all about destroying

  853. relationships And you know, so just pray pray

  854. for each other's marriages pray for each other's

  855. relationship with your children parents All these

  856. areas that are sinking boats come in and destroy

  857. and attack. He sinks to isolate us. Yes, he does.

  858. That's what he sinks to isolate us. Just like

  859. a wild animal would do in a herd. I know you've

  860. all seen National Geographic where you've got

  861. this lion chasing this herd of zebras. And one

  862. will follow back. And that's the one they bounce

  863. on. That's what saves them. Satan does, he tries

  864. to isolate us. So if you have something that

  865. you need prayer for, you don't need to announce

  866. it to everybody, but find somebody that you have

  867. confidence in and ask them to pray with you.

  868. Especially if it's something that you don't want

  869. to spread. We don't gossip at church, but find

  870. somebody to share that with. I can share that

  871. burden, and we'll really pray with you. You don't

  872. have to share it with everybody. But don't isolate

  873. yourself, is what I'm trying to say with that.

  874. Because prayer, prayer is, it moves the hand

  875. of God. It does. It moves the hand of God. What

  876. does that mean? I'm signing to husband, so moving

  877. the hand of God, we can... Have God changed his

  878. mind about something, right? Yeah. Just like

  879. Moses? I think so. Who was it that changed God's

  880. mind? Coming out of Sodom and Gomorrah. Yeah.

  881. Remember he was coming out of Sodom and Gomorrah

  882. and said, Lord, if I can find 50 believers here,

  883. will you spare them? You know, he got all the

  884. way down to, what, 10? 10, I think. And he couldn't

  885. find them. But he said he would if he could find.

  886. He thought he had. If he could find. But he said

  887. he would. But he couldn't find. And you know,

  888. we know that God is sovereign and he knows the

  889. end. So that's kind of a loaded question. I think

  890. too what I said to her about that was, you know,

  891. that scripture uses anthropomorphisms, meaning

  892. it's a literary term for... assigning, ascribing

  893. to God human characteristics then. But we have

  894. to remember He's not human, right? He's divine.

  895. And so, He doesn't, like the Scripture says that

  896. He is in the sea of forgetfulness. It doesn't

  897. mean that God has amnesia, you know, as if He

  898. never... I don't remember that saying. What it

  899. means is that He doesn't bring it up again. He

  900. doesn't remember it before you, before one else

  901. again. And the situation where Moses interceded

  902. on God was like, get out of my way, I'm going

  903. to destroy these people, right? They come out

  904. of Egypt, and Moses intercedes. It's not that

  905. God needed Moses to do that, but in that particular

  906. situation, Moses is like a type of Jesus for

  907. us, how Jesus intercedes. before the bar of God's

  908. justice. But Jesus is very clear that He's on

  909. a mission from the Father, right? He's the priest

  910. appointed by God to intercede for us. So there's

  911. this interesting tension in a way. God has to

  912. execute His judgment. He's getting ready to do

  913. that. But then God the Son comes and intercedes

  914. for us. But the point is that He uses... not

  915. only does He ordain the ends, but He ordains

  916. the means. And in that particular case, he ordained

  917. Moses pleading on behalf of the Israelites. And

  918. Moses did that too, by the way. He also said,

  919. hey, wait a minute, what about those watching

  920. nations? You've done all these great signs to

  921. deliver your people, and now they're going to

  922. destroy them and wipe them out. Moses wasn't

  923. thinking seriously about that. But the point

  924. is, there's a scripture of him where it says,

  925. God is not a man, and he should change his mind.

  926. He doesn't need more information to, oh, okay,

  927. well, I thought this, but now you've given me

  928. more information, so now I see this is the better

  929. course of action. It seems to me like Moses'

  930. intercession was an intercession against real

  931. judgment. God said He was going to bring judgment,

  932. and He knew Moses was interceded, and He did,

  933. and He spared him. We owe a lot of... Thanksgiving

  934. to the Lord for interceding for us. Against immense

  935. judgment and anger. He gives us a lot of examples.

  936. I know. He gives us a lot of examples. Even in

  937. the New Testament about this lady that comes

  938. before the judge. That's an illustration. Wanting

  939. some type of restitution. I don't remember exactly.

  940. But she comes several times and she keeps basically

  941. badgering the judge. You know and finally he

  942. gives in you know, and I think that's that's

  943. what we've got to do with even prayer You bring

  944. it before prayer So you keep bringing it. You

  945. were lost cause to them. And on the same hand,

  946. you can think, well, why do I even bring it to

  947. God? Because he already knows what you're going

  948. to pray for. But he wants you to tell him that.

  949. He wants that communication. I think that's really...

  950. What's that? He wants to hear the words out of

  951. your mouth that you want that new Subaru. He

  952. knows the beginning and the end. There are some

  953. people that bring light to the conversation and

  954. turn the light off. He knows the beginning and

  955. the end. He knows it by design. He designed it.

  956. We can move the hand of God during that time

  957. to create a different situation, a temporal situation.

  958. It's not going to change the end result. Like

  959. Moses did, we can ask for this to happen. And

  960. God can hear you and He can move that example

  961. situation, not in any way disrupting the end.

  962. It's amazing how many minute little things through

  963. life happen to create the end. That's right.

  964. That's why I say He's... And you can ask God

  965. to move these. temple issues around. And as it

  966. turns out, that prayer that you pray, God uses

  967. that to accomplish the... It still accomplishes

  968. His absolute... But you can move the hand back.

  969. We have a privilege of being participants in

  970. that. So did you pray of your own accord to move

  971. the hand of God, or did God cause you to pray...

  972. so that he could use your prayer to move his

  973. hand in the direction he wanted. That's getting

  974. complicated. The answer is yes. You probably

  975. can't figure God out that easily. Prayer, I will

  976. go in on this. Prayer will always make a difference

  977. in your life. Whether it makes a difference in

  978. the other person's life or not. The one you're

  979. praying for will always make a difference in

  980. your life. That's exactly right. So pray. Continue

  981. to pray. Amen. Okay. Thank you. Dear my Father,

  982. I thank you for this time, Lord, and the study

  983. of Mark the Lord. And I just thank you for your

  984. examples for us, Lord. And thank you for the

  985. example of prayer, Lord, and the importance of

  986. it, Lord. Just thank you. for that and I pray

  987. that we will not only in prayer but we will during

  988. the day think about you and everything that we

  989. do Lord. I pray for safety as we go home and

  990. I also pray that we will think about what we've

  991. talked about tonight Lord and apply it in our

  992. lives Lord. Pray these things from your sensei.

  993. I agree.