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(BONUS EPISODE) August 10, 2025 - Sunday Evening Bible Study with Larry Walker - Jesus Casting Out Evil Spirits - Mark 9:14
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Father, thank you again for your provisions,
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for your love and for your watch care over each
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one of us. Thank you that Aaron did get this
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insurance. And now Lord, as we turn our focus
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away from the worldly things and toward your
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word and our behavior and our reaction and different
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things, I pray you just Help us to forget all
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the things around us and just to focus just these
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few minutes on you and what you're trying to
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accomplish as we look at these disciples what
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you are trying to accomplish in their lives is
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really the same thing that you're trying to accomplish
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in our lives. Thank you again for your patience
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with us. Thank you that you are dependable as
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you show through Scripture especially in the
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Gospels and in the Old Testament as well that
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you were dependable to repeat. We're so so grateful
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for that. Help us to be ever dependent upon you.
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Thank you again. We just pray for their hearts
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as well. Thank you again for your patience and
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for your love and for your grace that you show
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to us each and every day. In Jesus' name, Amen.
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I'm going to read our text first of all tonight
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and then I'm going to do our, I guess, our review.
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And that way we get a, I think it's important
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to read the whole text because that way we get
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a whole flow of the story. It said, and when
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he came to the disciples, this is Mark 9, 14.
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And when he came to the disciples, he saw a great
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multitude around them and the scribes disputing
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with them. Immediately, when they saw them, all
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the people were greatly amazed. and running to
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him greeted him. And he asked the scribes, what
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are you discussing with them? Then one of the
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crowd answered and said, Teacher, I brought you
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my son who has a mute spirit. And whenever it
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seizes him, it throws him down, it foams up the
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mouth, gnashes his teeth, and becomes rigid.
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So I spoke to your disciples that they should
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cast it out. But they could not. He answered
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and said, O faithless generation, how long shall
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I be with you? How long shall I bear with you?
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Bring him to me. Then they brought him to him.
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And when he saw him, immediately the spirit convulsed
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him, and he fell on the ground and wallowed,
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honing half a mile. So he asked his father, how
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long has this been happening to him? And he said
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from childhood, and often he has thrown him both
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into the fire and into the water to destroy.
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But if you can do anything, have compassion on
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us and help us. And Jesus said to him, if you
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can believe, all things are possible to him who
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believes. Immediately the father of the child
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cried out and said with tears, Lord, I believe.
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helped my unbelief. When Jesus saw that the people
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came running together, he rebuked the unclean
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spirit, saying to it, Death, a mute spirit, I
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command you, come out of him and enter him no
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more. Then the spirit cried out and bulged him
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greatly and came out of him, and he became his
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one death. So that many said, he is dead. But
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Jesus took him by the hand. lifted him up, and
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he arose. And when he had come into the house,
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his disciples asked him probably, why could we
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not cast it out? He said to them, this kind can
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come out by nothing but prayer and fasting. By
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prayer and fasting. As we come again to Mark.
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We are not too far from the base of Mount Huron,
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where Jesus and his closest disciples Peter,
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James, and John have just came down from the
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Mount of Transfiguration. What they arrive to
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is Jesus's other nine disciples are in argument
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with the scribes, and a great number of people
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are surrounding them. What we find out is that
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the desperate father has Has come bringing his
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only son who is demon possessed and has been
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has been to be healed by Jesus But Jesus was
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not there. So they asked Jesus's disciples to
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heal They were known for doing miracles before
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As we have found out they could not heal the
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boy. I believe this is where the argument began
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The scribe sees the opportunity to discredit
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not only Jesus' disciples, but Jesus as well.
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Naturally, this will bring doubt to the onlookers,
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including, I believe, this boy's father. We have
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seen where it has caused doubt in him. So as
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the story progresses, there have been some things
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we have seen. The boy's father spoke. before
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anyone else can and begins to tell why he is
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there. I brought my son to you who needs healing
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and is demon possessed. And the father gives
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a brief description of why he believes his son
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is demon possessed. He has a mute spirit, he's
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thrown to the ground, he foams up the mouth,
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he grinds his teeth, becomes rigid, which I which
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can mean to waste away, meaning he's lost a lot
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of weight and things. And it can mean to stiffen
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up. He tells this to Jesus, and that his disciples
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had failed at healing his son. And Jesus' reply
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was, O faithless generation, it's as if Jesus
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can't believe what has been shown to them all.
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Over the past two and a half years, all the miracles,
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signs, and wonders, and teachings like no other.
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Even the religious leaders knew this. And yet,
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they are without faith. Jesus says, bring the
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boy to me. As he is being brought, an evil spirit
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is wrecking havoc on him. Looks as if it is trying
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to kill him. Mark gives a vivid picture. of what
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it looks like. You know, and one preacher I listen
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to says if they were going to do a movie, Mark
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gives a lot of details in his gospels. He doesn't
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necessarily quote a lot of scripture, but he
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gives details where you can make a movie about
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where the other two gospels don't, Luke and Matthew.
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So Mark gives us a very vivid picture of what
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this demon -possessed boy looks like. And Mark
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gives us twice as long, if not three times as
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long, of a picture of this story than the other
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two gospels, which is kind of rare in Mark, because
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Mark is usually... Boom right next to the next
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story, but this one gets a lot of attention As
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all this is happening Jesus is listening to the
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father Tell his story and we talked about that
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before Jesus asked him how long he's been like
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that. He wanted the father to tell a story To
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where everyone around could hear especially the
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disciples Which seems like a hopeless case. At
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the end of the Father's story, out of desperation,
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he asked Jesus, if you can do anything, have
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compassion on us and help us. You know, that's
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man's final plea too. Should be the gospel. The
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gospel should, when all else fails, And man will
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try everything before coming to the gospel. There's
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an empty void that's inside all of us. We're
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going to talk a little more about that. But it
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seems like man will try everything before coming
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to the gospel. And in verse 23 it says, Jesus
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replied, if you can believe, all things are possible
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to him who believes. Immediately, the father
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of the child cried out and said with tears, Lord,
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I believe. Help my unbelief. I love that. I love
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how the father puts it. I mean, he's just, he's
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not holding nothing back. He's saying these things
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with tears. And he's just putting it out on the
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tape. It doesn't matter who's listening. He just
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needs help and wants help. Well, we can empathize
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with that. We can't, especially with our own
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kids and things. A lifetime with that situation.
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Oh, no one knows how long it's been. A long time.
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You're exhausted. I mean, you are mentally exhausted.
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And you're approaching this teacher who by all
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rights is supposed to be able to alleviate this.
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I mean, you've seen nothing happen up till now,
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you know. Nothing's worked. And you're out of
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your mind. Now this is like the last stop right
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here. You're white. Mentally white. And you're
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supposed to believe that this man can cast this
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demon out of your soul. And to have that kind
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of a response. That is an end of the line response
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right there. And the big thing is... I don't
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believe. Help me with my unbelief. That's right.
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I want to believe. How can I believe that you
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can do this? Well, obviously he had some belief
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because he brought him to Jesus. He did. Yeah.
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But he found out pretty quick that it didn't
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seem to help. Yeah, and that's why I think it
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was because his disciples had failed. Right.
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That's right. Why did his disciples fail? Because
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I don't think they were the same thing. They
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were. Jesus had a prayer infesting. They were.
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And we're going to look at that. They forget
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to pray? Well, in short, in short, we fall into
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this same trap of teaching or doing something
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a certain way and we get self -dependent, even
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in our jobs, even in the things that we do and
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sometimes we forget where that authority comes
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from. And I believe this had happened to these
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disciples. They had a certain method of doing
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things. And early in their ministry, they were
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relying on the power of God because He gave them
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the authority. And He hadn't taken that authority
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away. But they just wasn't relying on His strength.
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They were relying on their own ability. You know,
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we talked about that last time. I'm telling this
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demon to get out. They only came by fasting and
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praying, right? Getting your mind back where
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it needed to be. That's right. Jesus always fasts,
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always prays. We're going to talk about that
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more toward the end. sicknesses and healings
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that Jesus gave you, the thoracic that you've
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overcome, were gone pretty quickly. It wasn't
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a great hassle until then. And we'll talk about
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later. Really, this is what looks to be like
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a trial run for these disciples. It's really
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the first time that they've been away, Jesus
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and these three leaders. And it's interesting
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to me that they were gone as well. Peter, especially
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Peter since he was, I don't know if you'd call
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him a ringleader, but he was one of the chief
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apostles or chief disciples. And they had been
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called away and this I believe is a little test
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for them. They failed. They failed. That's right.
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Because of their self -reliance on themselves.
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It was a good learning experience for them. There's
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a reason why this whole context is here about
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them arguing. And you can just see that where
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Jesus and, like you say, your James and John
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of God were absent, right? Meanwhile, all this
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gathers and there's healing maybe, probably some
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other healing going on perhaps, and then all
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of a sudden this situation rises and you start
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getting... And when you get into an argument
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with somebody, your pride starts... Oh yeah,
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I'm... yeah. And then I think you're on the right
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target there, that you start getting self -reliant
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and you forget where you're... resources and
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Peter who is the one that is primary source for
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Mark's account. In his epistle, 1 Peter writes,
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God opposes the problem against grace and honor.
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I think you may be right about that. So I wonder
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about it too, how do they not have the power
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to do this? Yeah, again, you know why why is
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that need to tell him about the argument? I think
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there's there for a reason. Yeah and Yeah We
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looked at this verse last time short version
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is the father believed Jesus wants To help but
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the circumstances surrounding this event has
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put doubt that Jesus simply can't And that's,
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I say that because of the disciples' prayer to
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be able to heal. If the disciples can't do it,
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then most likely Jesus can't do it. I think the
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disciples got used to having that authority,
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and then when it seemed to fail the way it had
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done in the past, they were trying to reconcile
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that. Then it looked like to the Father that
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it was not going to work out. Yeah, I agree.
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I agree. The disciples have much to learn about
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their lack of dependence on divine power from
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above. We will say they were not in communication
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with the one who gave them the authority they
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had. And I say that because of that last verse,
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verse 29, this kind can come out by nothing but
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prayer and fasting. You know, we're going to
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talk more about that, but we should constantly,
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the Bible tells us to constantly be in a state
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of prayer. And I think that's not simply with
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your head bowed. That's being constantly aware
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of God's presence around you all the time. And
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that communication, just thinking, you know,
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referring back to scripture. and including him
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in your thoughts about different things that
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you're going to do, even your work or your activities
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or your play or whatever, just recognizing. You
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know, we were out fishing yesterday, me and a
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couple of fellas, and just God's beauty, I was
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just aware of creation that God had created and
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the beauty of it. Pray in or anything like that,
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but just being constantly aware, you know But
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but in certain circumstances I'll mention this
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again, but in certain certain circumstances You
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need more prayer. I Mean you need to separate
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yourself and I think that's where the fasting
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comes in if you have a hard situation to come
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to That's just not normal every day things or
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incidences, so you need to confront somebody.
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And a lot of us have had to do that. Not just
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about spiritual things, but about other things.
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You want to make sure you spend time in prayer
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about that. I don't always do that. Sometimes
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when I confront somebody, it's on the spur of
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the moment. You know, you're retaliating, I guess
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we did. Better word, but you don't need to do
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that. You need to you need to pray about it And
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then even if that if you don't feel like that's
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sufficient Do without something in your life
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and that's what fasting is doing without something
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that you normally do For a particular purpose
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and that would be pray about that situation And
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apparently they had not considered this prayer
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Or he wouldn't have mentioned it down here in
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verse 29 Yeah, I was going to ask that a little
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bit. That fasting is not just food, is it? No,
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it could be. It could be anything. Any worldly
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pleasure at all. Yeah, it could be anything.
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We associate it with food. You're right. Well,
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food's pretty good, ain't it, Pastor? Yeah, it
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is. That's a tough one. That's one of the toughest.
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Yeah. But I guess, yeah, any worldly input, just
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stop it. Yeah, the Bible uses that also with
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having a relationship with your wife. Yeah. We've
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seen from that whole period. I think they had
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television back in the day. Television would
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be at the top of the list. Exactly. I was thinking
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about that too. Fascinating. Because that takes
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up a lot of time. Fishing shows. Soccer games
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and fishing shows and stuff. Exactly. How worldly.
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I believe this man's request was answered. The
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Bible doesn't tell us that explicitly. But the
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Bible tells us that his son was healed. And I
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believe the man's faith had grown from this experience.
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Does it say fasting? Oh, okay. That in verse
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29? Well, let's look at his prayer translations.
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Well, this is the legacy we got here, but it
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just says prayer. I think this is the King James
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version of New King James is this one. I think
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this one is, no I think this one just says this
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is the King James, the one that's got all three.
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I like it because it's got all three of them
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right back to back so I can compare them really
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easily. The point is that prayer was needed.
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Apparently the disciples didn't look for it.
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How hard is prayer? Serious prayer, if you're
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not fast. Every time you do the same prayer,
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and just like that, you're off somewhere else.
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You're not in prayer at all. Especially if you're
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driving and praying. I think more than just prayer,
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it was a special kind of prayer because of the
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situation. Pretty serious situation. Pretty heavy.
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I think so. He came humbly asking in a submissive
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way, acknowledging Jesus as Lord. If you notice,
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he called him Lord there. Jesus will not turn
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away from those asking in this way with the right
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spirit and the right heart. We know God does
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the drawing, and I'm not leaving that out of
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the equation, but this man does come with a humble,
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and we can see the humbleness in the words that
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he says. And then Mark jumps quickly to the next
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scene. in verse 25, when Jesus saw that the people
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came running to get him. It seems Jesus does
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his healing away from the crowd. Remember, his
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ministry and work for the multitude is basically
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over. He is focused on his chosen twelve. Jesus
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is preparing his disciples as leaders. Being
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a leader often requires being a servant. Mark's
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gospel demonstrates Jesus as a servant. And we've
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talked about that toward the beginning of chapter
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nine, the end of chapter eight is where Jesus
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is making his descent toward Jerusalem or toward
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Calvary. And so he's turned away from the people
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more or less, but he's still got some things
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he needs to. to teach his disciples, and I think
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Mark gives us 10 or 11. It's on the back of that
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clipboard. I wrote them down on that last page
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there. The last two ones are sticking out. Lessons
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that Jesus will teach his disciples in the next
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chapter or two. The first one is faith. The second
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one is humility. The third one is offenses. The
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fourth one is seriousness of sin, marriage and
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divorce, a place of children in the kingdom,
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earthly riches, true wealth, leadership, sacrificial
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service. And then chapter 10, verses 46 to 52
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is on faith again. So he begins on faith here.
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and he ends up again on faith. And then in chapter
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11, Jesus enters Jerusalem. So there's several
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things that we're going to be looking at that
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Jesus is heading towards and he's training these
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disciples. It seems Jesus is not looking for
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repair or the attention. It may even be Jesus
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wanted to get this done. in a hurry before the
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crowd came. He rebukes the unclean spirit. Jesus
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shows authority over the spiritual world, which
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will speak volumes to his disciples. Notice again
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the action that Jesus shows. Say to it, deaf
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and dumb spirit, I command you, come out of him
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and enter him no more. Notice Jesus himself speaks
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directly to it on his authority from God. Matthew
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28, 18, Jesus said to them, all authority in
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heaven and on earth has been given to me. All
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authority comes from heaven and is delegated
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from heaven. Jesus received that earthly delegation
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and therefore he was able to delegate it as he
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wills. We know he did this. to his earthly apostles,
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that's in Matthew 10, 5 to 8, and also to 72
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others to heal the sick in Luke 10, 1 to 11.
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So he gives certain people, and we know even
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in the New Testament he delegated that authority
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to Paul because he was able to do some miracles,
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but it wasn't to everyone. Jesus told us who,
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basically, he delegated those signs to, those
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miracles. And it was, again, not for their benefit,
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but to prove who he was, to prove who Jesus was.
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We have been delegated, I believe, as believers
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to make disciples of all nations. Our job is
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to train followers of Jesus. those He calls out
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of darkness. So we've not been delegated to do
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miracles and things like that, but we have been
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delegated to make disciples. You got something
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to say, Dave? He was in constant prayer, so He
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did the will of the Father. And like you said,
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we're delegated to make disciples. Now Jesus
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didn't just... He did the will of His Father,
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and He showed up here. He was totally up to the
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Holy Spirit to... orchestrate the rest of it
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through time to bring all the examples and everything
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right before Christ to use it as an example.
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He's teaching these disciples. I mean it wasn't
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just Melee that this guy showed up with his son
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to exemplify the teachings that he just made
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while they were walking along the road, you know.
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And as you disciple, ship, others. I believe
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those instances come in right in front of you,
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too, to be an example or to show them the power
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of God. The Holy Spirit, he's never been sitting
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down relaxing much, has he? I mean, the more
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that you see these type of events and stuff like
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that, and the way he orchestrates these events
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in the life of Christ. We see it easily in the
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Father's actions and the Holy Spirit's actions.
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It's definitely not just the Son and the Father.
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You're right. It's the Holy Spirit that does
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it all. It's been done for generations and generations
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to make this one point in time. With this man
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and his son, and the son's need and desire. It's
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easy for us to pick these things out of Scripture.
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We can read on them, re -read on them. we can
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get this visual picture, but when it happens
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to us, it's... But he does that through our entire
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life. We miss a lot of it. Yeah, it's hard for
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us to see. But he brings those examples in front
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of you a bunch, and we miss the mark quite often.
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We miss the point of the hard time. So Jesus
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commands the evil spirit to come out of this
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boy, and that's not all. He says, never enter
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him again. As I read through this story, it is
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one of the most severe cases of demon possession,
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maybe even equal to the man in the tombs in Mark
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5, 1 -20. We have seen how severely beaten this
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boy has been. By all human wisdom, he should
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have been dead. There may have been more than
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one demon to do all this damage. I don't know
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the Greek language here. But it seems he may
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have been Demon possessed more than one time
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With more than one coming in because it says
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enter him no more And I'm not sure if this if
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if he had been demon possessed and the demons
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left You know, there's a I think it's over Matthew
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where it says that Demons can come in and if
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they leave Remember the house is swept clean,
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or you've cleaned up your life, but the house
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is still empty. But there are more demons even
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worse than the first that can come in. The 325
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says come out again and enter him no more. The
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question, can a soul of a person be unoccupied?
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And I looked that up on Google. The Bible suggests
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that souls should be occupied ideally by the
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Holy Spirit, and a relationship with God rather
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than being left empty and vulnerable to negative
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influences of worldly pursuits that ultimately
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leave people feeling unfilled. Matthew 12, 43
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-45. These verses suggest that a person's soul
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can be empty, but if so, it is in danger of being
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occupied by evil spirits. And if not occupied,
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influenced by them. Satan or his demons are not
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our worst enemy. You know, and sometimes we think
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that. We think that Satan... and his demons are
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our worst enemy. But our worst enemy is our own
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selves. It's our sin. Our sin is our worst enemy
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and it does us the most harm. All that said,
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we all do have an empty place in our soul that
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only God can fill. We try to fill it with earthly
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pleasures and we never can. Jesus tells us that
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this evil spirit Will never enter him again He
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was protected from being occupied by evil spirits
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again There's only one way to do that To fill
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the void It would seem like I Don't know I don't
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know if that's the case. I mean Jesus has all
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authority over the spiritual world That was my
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initial thought, Dave, that this boy came to
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a point of salvation. But the Bible doesn't tell
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us that. He just tells us that he commanded that
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the evil spirits not go there anymore. It may
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suggest that he was occupied now. It could just
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be a suggestion. I mean, and that's a very logical...
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suggestion, but I'm not. I don't know if I'm
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willing to go that far. We've seen the father's
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plea on the boy's behalf, but we never hear from
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the boy. You know, we can go on behalf of our
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children all day long, but they're the ones that
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have to make the final say. I'm sure that had
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an impact on the boy, too, later on. I'm sure.
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I'm sure. I'm sure. You're right. If he does
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it around no go, that's awful. And Jesus shows
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a lot of compassion. He had a lot of compassion
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for people. And it is very possible that he said
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this boy has suffered enough. No more. But it
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doesn't say that. It doesn't say that. It doesn't
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say either way. It doesn't say either way. He
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just commanded him not to come back. Not to come
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back. He said he was healed. Yeah. Yeah. It's
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like the moment they get a dog, it goes in no
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more. Yeah. Yeah. But the Bible does say that
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if you're occupied by the Spirit, by the Spirit,
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that you can't be occupied by anything else.
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Never. Never. That's pretty cool. So I'm gonna
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leave it at that. That's pretty cool. And according
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to Mark, he left it at that too then. He left
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it at that. And time to move. Yeah, Mark and
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Peter, they left it at that. As Jesus commands,
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we can see the resistance of the evil spirit,
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or at least, again, this evil spirit trying to
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kill this boy. In verse 26, it says, then the
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evil spirit cried out, convulsed him greatly,
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and he came out of him. Again, we see the disciples
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see how great the authority of Jesus is. And
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one, they can put their faith in. And again,
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Jesus' ministry here is to these disciples. So
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the healing of this boy is a by -product of Jesus
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working through the disciples, wanting to teach
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his disciples something. And that's okay. If
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God wants to bring good to my life because of
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my wife, then I'll take it. It's okay. It don't
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have to be because of me. If it's because of
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her, it's almost like an unbeliever being married
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to a believer. The unbeliever. sanctified or
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set apart. That's right. That's right. The cause
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of this bullying. It's almost like that demon
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was unusual and resistive and determined to do
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it his own way. He convulsed him and stuff like
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that. for a beginning, for a moment or two until
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Jesus and you come out. Yeah, that was it. It
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probably also displays the great authority that
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Jesus had when we needed this kind of resistance.
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Yeah, John McArthur said at the very least this
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boy should have been severely had brain injuries.
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Yeah. And it gives him... statistics on football
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players that get hit so many times and what do
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they call that? CTE. What is it? CTG. Yeah, but
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not necessarily the brain traumatic. Concussions.
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Concussions. Concussions. Having several of them
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can lead to that. Yeah, that's the word I would
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look for. Is that the same thing as sick to you,
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Brian? Sorry? Is that the same thing as sick
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to you? No. Pay attention. I'm just kind of drifting.
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Okay. Yeah, yeah. But you're right. God did save
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him. Save him from that. I think what else is
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interesting here is that Jesus says, bring him
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to me. So they bring the boy, and then apparently
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he wasn't convulsing and whatever by that point,
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but as soon as the demon, the boy sees Jesus,
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he fills him. And this whole conversation that
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he has with the Father then, how long has this
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been happening? Meanwhile, he's in the background,
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he's convulsing, foaming in the mouth and carrying
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on, and they're just having this little conversation.
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I just, I don't know what to make of that other
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than here's another example of where Jesus is
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just completely chill. Yeah. About things that
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I would be freaking out. I'd be like, let's get
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this guy quiet. Let's help my son. So that we
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can talk. You know, we'll have a conversation
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later. Yeah. Or even the father, you know, let's
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talk about this later. Let's heal him now. Yeah,
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right. You're right. We talked about that in
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our... one bible study you may have missed it
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but we talked about that how as Jesus is calling
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him that this evil spirit is wrecking havoc on
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this boy and they are just they're having this
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conversation and the father's pouring out his
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heart to Jesus giving him even more detail than
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he did at the beginning you know and again as
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this As the boy would walk by either fire or
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water, this evil spirit would break him down
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to where he would fall into that fire. Where
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he would fall into the water. It was just at
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random. I mean, the evil spirit had his will
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and way over that boy. And it was for this very
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purpose, I believe. of teaching these disciples
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about faith. I thank God. Also, when the boy
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was convulsing, and it says that the father kept
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talking to Jesus, it shows that Jesus was not
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desperate or concerned that maybe something would
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happen too severe for him. He was in charge,
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even with all the... Language all the argument
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everything that Jesus knew he was in charge and
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he was not gonna let happen what? That's right
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It says as the spirit came out and he began And
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he became as one dead so that many said he is
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dead It appeared to all witnesses that Jesus
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had lost the battle the boy is dead until verse
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27. Jesus took him by the hand and lifted him
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up and he arose. Luke adds that and he went back
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to his father. Jesus has seen many times taking
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people in need by the hand or touching them and
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Mark 1 .31 remember Peter's mother -in -law.
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who Jesus heals. Mark 1, 41, the leper that wanted
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to be cleansed, and Jesus touched him. Mark 5,
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41, the ruler of the synagogue's daughter, where
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Jesus and I think three of his disciples at that
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time, too, went into her. And I think the parents
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went into, and Jesus touched her, and she rose
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from the dead. And then the blind man, who was
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healed in stages, in 823. And then after this
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event, after he rose up, he was healed, he went
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back to his father, Jesus goes into a house away
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from the crowds, verse 28, went in and come into
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the house, his disciples asked him privately,
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why could we not cast it out? And that was a
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good question, a very good question. And he said
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to them, this kind can come out by nothing but
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prayer and fasting. The disciples evidently began
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to trust in themselves and maybe their methods
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of miracles. Their faith had turned away from
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depending on God's authority to their own abilities.
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And you know, I overheard Pastor Peter one time
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tell a missionary, that we supported years ago,
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not to drift from depending on God's activity
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and his ministry to his own abilities. That was
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because he was a very gifted and very interesting
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speaker. Do you remember that? No. I do. I remember
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that very vividly. Just here in the background,
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it was that... That family that went over to
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Rome, went over to Rome, had them kids and then
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came back. He was a very gifted speaker. And
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I remember Pastor Peter telling me, I remember
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when they came to our church and spoke. I remember
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very vividly, Pastor Peter, you told me that.
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That's really stuck with me. And it is true,
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it's very true. You know, it's interesting what
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sticks in your brain when a lot of other things
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don't. But I remember that very, very vividly.
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That's good for any kind of ministry, whether
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it's preaching or singing or whatever it is.
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It's easy to rely on your gifts. That's right.
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Yeah, even teaching. You know, you do it time
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and time and time again and eventually you build
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up a confidence, I guess. And you can, that confidence
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can be... direct it on yourself rather than on
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God and His Word. I don't have that problem.
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I'm not a very gifted speaker. Well, at the time,
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the Holy Spirit would tell the man, not for his
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benefit, but for your eavesdropping. For my eavesdropping.
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So be careful what you say in church. I've only
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been worried where Larry Walker is, been worried.
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I mean, he's spoken to the man. The man might
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have been looking out the window. But just like
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when he's up there at the pulpit, I'm sure you
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can see the faces. You can. And you can see when
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you're speaking, even though it's not even in
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your notes and you're speaking, you don't even
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know why you're speaking it. The Holy Spirit's
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speaking it. And that person's reaction immediately...
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absorb it. And then you get back to your notes.
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Why was that done? That was for that person.
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And he told it to the missionary. For you to
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hear, I mean the other guy probably heard too,
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but for you to hear and for it to affect your
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life. That's just what he does. That says a lot
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about this prayer. Prayer is necessary, so don't
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go before, and I've done it. I've picked up my
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Bible and started studying, writing notes before
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ever praying. I'm guilty of that, and that's
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not the way it needs to be. You need to go humbly
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in prayer, asking the Lord to show you and give
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you direction. and give your thoughts, clarity
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of thoughts, and things like this. And your understanding
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of all these things. No, it ain't. You didn't
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write it. No. And that's why you compare Scripture
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with Scripture. That's why you compare Scripture
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to Scripture. Matthew 17 .20 says it plainly.
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It says, because of your unbelief. And the ESV,
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that's in the New King James, the ESV reads,
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because of your little faith. Matthew even says,
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he says a little more, he gives a little story,
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Matthew even says, a little bit of faith can
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accomplish things unheard of. And he compares,
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if you have a little bit of faith as a mustard
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seed. And that is small. I've never seen a mustard
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seed. I don't know if it's a small seed. It's
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a small seed and a small amount of faith can
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move a mountain. That's what it says over Matthew
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concerning this account too. This whole scene...
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was like a trial run. Jesus and the lead disciples
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were absent and they failed. More work being
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needed. It also seems to imply that there are
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situations that may take more prayers and even
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fasting. Our life should be one constantly in
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true communion with God, always being aware of
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His presence and involvement. in our lives. But
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at times, more wisdom is required and should
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be asked for in special prayer and even fasting.
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So the faith was the big issue. So we finished
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that whole section tonight, which I'm glad. Thank
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you. But that's essential. I like your little
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addition there. And so more work to be done.
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More work to be done. More work to be done on
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us. Another failure. More work to be done. More
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work to be done on us and on these disciples.
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So as we read it, we put ourselves in their situations.
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The scripture is speaking to us just like it
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is speaking to them. The disciples just didn't
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have it together like we do. We seem like that
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sometimes. Yeah, we do. We think that. They needed
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some serious work, didn't they? We can look at
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it like that sometimes. I can't believe they
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couldn't just see it. Yeah, they could just pick
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up the Bible and read it for themselves. That's
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right. Because they hadn't written it yet. We
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are very blessed to live on this side of the
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cross. More and more every day I realize that.
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Every time I pick the Bible up, I'm very appreciative
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of living on this side of the cross. I sure am.
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One of our many Bibles. One of our many Bibles.
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That's right. Many, many. I'm glad we also don't
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have to take lambs down to the temple for the
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slaughter. Get some of those places. They get
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a chapter tore out and handed to them, you know?
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Yeah. to pass around chapters, that's right.
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They're excited to get it. So, Diana, if you
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want to close us in first. You got anything to
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add? I was just thinking. Think out loud. That's
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what you're supposed to do, is think out loud.
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Now I was just thinking, Jesus as an example,
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I would say that He prayed before He did none
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of miracles. And as an example, I don't know,
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you know, that the disciples, we were healing
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everything. Does that mean that they weren't
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praying before? You know what I'm saying? The
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healings? Yeah, where they actually, when He
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gave them the authority, where they actually...
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praying before they were doing When he kept when
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he sent him out two by two, is that what you're
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is that what you mean? I Don't know there was
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a more dependence upon Upon Jesus and the authority
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that was given to I think because I think it
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was brand new and it was it was something that
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they They cherished and they realized where that
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authority came from they realized Jesus is authority
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because it's something that they've never done
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before I mean this was I mean if I had the power
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of healing I would Where'd this come from? You
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know it came from Jesus man. You know I'd be
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thanking You know thank you Lord that I can do
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this, but as time goes on You know it's even
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even like when we're first first saved it's been
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said many times when you first saved you're very
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very appreciative and you want to spread the
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gospel and you want to tell people but as time
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goes on it just kind of becomes get over it get
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over it kind of thing you know and i think that's
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what had happened to them i think they were very
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dependent on Jesus in the beginning Jesus also
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identified that spirit by saying this kind So
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maybe it was because of the kind of spirit that
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they were dealing with? Were they dealing with
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health issues? They were dealing with everything.
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They were casting out demons. It could have been
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a different spirit. And that's why I was saying,
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situations in our life... Take more than just
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a casual prayer. Like I said about confrontations
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and things like that which I'm not good at. I
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always pray about a confrontation before I go
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because I don't want to do it. I hate confronting
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somebody about anything. Usually I stay awake
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all night worrying about it. Am I gonna hurt
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this person's feelings? And prayer, actually.
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Fighting that, with that boldness. I want to
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be bold and do that, and yet I'm not wanting
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to. So I'm asking God to help me to make that
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choice. I know the choice I need to make, but
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I'm asking for... confirmation for that choice,
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I guess. As well as the church prayed that the
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Lord would give them bonus. Yeah, and I pray
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the same thing. And I think some things require
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a deeper prayer. I think so. And I think that's
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the point here. This kind of spirit requires
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something more. I think that's what fasting is,
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is intensifying self -denial and self -pray.
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That's the missing ministry in the church that
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we don't fancy. I guess we're not desperate enough,
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really. Well, like I said, sometimes I do it
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without... One particular thing I can remember,
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when the guys started putting my roof on, and
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they were friends of family, and when I came
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home, they put four or five sheets. sheets up
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and it looked terrible. I mean, it had big dents
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in it. Screw it. And I knew that evening. I knew
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that day I was going to have to call them that
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next morning and tell them, you know, I don't
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need your services. And I laid awake all night,
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all night, debating over that. How do I say it?
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And I prayed and I lost sleep. And I guess that
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could be a type of fasting without even realizing
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it, you know. You kept yourself from sleep or
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rest. It was. Instead of food, it was rest. It
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wasn't even something that I even thought about
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as far as fasting, but it's just something that
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naturally happened. You deprived yourself of
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sleep or rest. Yeah, and that next day I called
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that fellow that next morning and I said, I hate
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to tell you, but I said, the job that you're
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doing is just not up to par with what I was expecting.
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He said, well, he said, I'll come back out and
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take it down. And he says, we'll be done. I said,
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yeah. I said, I'm going to pay you for a day's
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work, a day's labor. And I think I gave him $500
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for the day for him and the guy. They came down
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and took it. Took it down and that was it. I
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was just thinking about that, I hadn't thought
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about that before, but that fasting coming in,
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laying awake all night, thinking about that,
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praying about that, and some situations just
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take more prayer and doing without something
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to have an outcome that's suitable. And the guy
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wasn't mad, you know, I don't know, maybe...
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I think he would have been mad at himself. I
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don't know, screw it. Yeah, but anyhow, maybe
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he didn't think it was a shot of job, but anyhow.
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But that fasting, that was the point of the story
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there. Kyle laid awake, doing without sleep.
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You beat yourself a little bit. Yeah, I didn't
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even know if I was fasting, but I looked back
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on it. Anyhow, anything else? No, that was a
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very good lesson. It was? On faith. That's what
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I said this morning. in some of the school we
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weren't there for, but we've been introducing
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John 17 where this is Jesus' prayer. It's the
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longest prayer of his recorded in scriptures.
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And I've been studying the armor of God in Ephesians,
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the very end of Ephesians. Thursday Bible study,
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we're entering that. And you see this close parallel
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there where, of course, Jesus... as our higher
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priest is praying for us and receiving for us.
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But we're called to do the same thing in the
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context of spiritual war. Paul, that's where
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we get the believer's armor, right? The armor
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of God. And a lot of people, myself included,
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there's six pieces of armor there, but there's
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seven ingredients. Six of them have armor, but
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the last one is prayer. Paul says this praying
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at all times with all prayer petition in the
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spirit and to this end being on the alert with
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all person and petition for all the saints as
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well as on my behalf that words may be given
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to me and opening my mouth to make known with
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boldness mystery of the gospel which I am an
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ambassador of things that I may choose so that
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in proclaiming it I may speak boldly as I ought
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to speak. It's kind of similar to what you're
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saying. But here, he's talking about each believer
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putting on the armor, but then us, the importance
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of us praying for one another. And I've just
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been, not that you never say, oh prayer's not
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important, we all know it's important, but in
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the context of spiritual warfare, prayer is absolutely
-
indispensable as part of God's equipment that
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he's given us. for each other. So you put on
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your armor, but you're praying for God's strength
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and support and blessing for believers as well.
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As Paul says here, to speak boldly, to exercise
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the gifts that God's given each of us. That's
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important. That's why it's important. Vital it
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is, you know, I mean Satan is all about destroying
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relationships And you know, so just pray pray
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for each other's marriages pray for each other's
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relationship with your children parents All these
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areas that are sinking boats come in and destroy
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and attack. He sinks to isolate us. Yes, he does.
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That's what he sinks to isolate us. Just like
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a wild animal would do in a herd. I know you've
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all seen National Geographic where you've got
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this lion chasing this herd of zebras. And one
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will follow back. And that's the one they bounce
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on. That's what saves them. Satan does, he tries
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to isolate us. So if you have something that
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you need prayer for, you don't need to announce
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it to everybody, but find somebody that you have
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confidence in and ask them to pray with you.
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Especially if it's something that you don't want
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to spread. We don't gossip at church, but find
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somebody to share that with. I can share that
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burden, and we'll really pray with you. You don't
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have to share it with everybody. But don't isolate
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yourself, is what I'm trying to say with that.
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Because prayer, prayer is, it moves the hand
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of God. It does. It moves the hand of God. What
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does that mean? I'm signing to husband, so moving
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the hand of God, we can... Have God changed his
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mind about something, right? Yeah. Just like
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Moses? I think so. Who was it that changed God's
-
mind? Coming out of Sodom and Gomorrah. Yeah.
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Remember he was coming out of Sodom and Gomorrah
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and said, Lord, if I can find 50 believers here,
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will you spare them? You know, he got all the
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way down to, what, 10? 10, I think. And he couldn't
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find them. But he said he would if he could find.
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He thought he had. If he could find. But he said
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he would. But he couldn't find. And you know,
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we know that God is sovereign and he knows the
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end. So that's kind of a loaded question. I think
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too what I said to her about that was, you know,
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that scripture uses anthropomorphisms, meaning
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it's a literary term for... assigning, ascribing
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to God human characteristics then. But we have
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to remember He's not human, right? He's divine.
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And so, He doesn't, like the Scripture says that
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He is in the sea of forgetfulness. It doesn't
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mean that God has amnesia, you know, as if He
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never... I don't remember that saying. What it
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means is that He doesn't bring it up again. He
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doesn't remember it before you, before one else
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again. And the situation where Moses interceded
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on God was like, get out of my way, I'm going
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to destroy these people, right? They come out
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of Egypt, and Moses intercedes. It's not that
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God needed Moses to do that, but in that particular
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situation, Moses is like a type of Jesus for
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us, how Jesus intercedes. before the bar of God's
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justice. But Jesus is very clear that He's on
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a mission from the Father, right? He's the priest
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appointed by God to intercede for us. So there's
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this interesting tension in a way. God has to
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execute His judgment. He's getting ready to do
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that. But then God the Son comes and intercedes
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for us. But the point is that He uses... not
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only does He ordain the ends, but He ordains
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the means. And in that particular case, he ordained
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Moses pleading on behalf of the Israelites. And
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Moses did that too, by the way. He also said,
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hey, wait a minute, what about those watching
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nations? You've done all these great signs to
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deliver your people, and now they're going to
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destroy them and wipe them out. Moses wasn't
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thinking seriously about that. But the point
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is, there's a scripture of him where it says,
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God is not a man, and he should change his mind.
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He doesn't need more information to, oh, okay,
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well, I thought this, but now you've given me
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more information, so now I see this is the better
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course of action. It seems to me like Moses'
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intercession was an intercession against real
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judgment. God said He was going to bring judgment,
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and He knew Moses was interceded, and He did,
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and He spared him. We owe a lot of... Thanksgiving
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to the Lord for interceding for us. Against immense
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judgment and anger. He gives us a lot of examples.
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I know. He gives us a lot of examples. Even in
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the New Testament about this lady that comes
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before the judge. That's an illustration. Wanting
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some type of restitution. I don't remember exactly.
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But she comes several times and she keeps basically
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badgering the judge. You know and finally he
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gives in you know, and I think that's that's
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what we've got to do with even prayer You bring
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it before prayer So you keep bringing it. You
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were lost cause to them. And on the same hand,
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you can think, well, why do I even bring it to
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God? Because he already knows what you're going
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to pray for. But he wants you to tell him that.
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He wants that communication. I think that's really...
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What's that? He wants to hear the words out of
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your mouth that you want that new Subaru. He
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knows the beginning and the end. There are some
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people that bring light to the conversation and
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turn the light off. He knows the beginning and
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the end. He knows it by design. He designed it.
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We can move the hand of God during that time
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to create a different situation, a temporal situation.
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It's not going to change the end result. Like
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Moses did, we can ask for this to happen. And
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God can hear you and He can move that example
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situation, not in any way disrupting the end.
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It's amazing how many minute little things through
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life happen to create the end. That's right.
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That's why I say He's... And you can ask God
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to move these. temple issues around. And as it
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turns out, that prayer that you pray, God uses
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that to accomplish the... It still accomplishes
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His absolute... But you can move the hand back.
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We have a privilege of being participants in
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that. So did you pray of your own accord to move
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the hand of God, or did God cause you to pray...
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so that he could use your prayer to move his
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hand in the direction he wanted. That's getting
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complicated. The answer is yes. You probably
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can't figure God out that easily. Prayer, I will
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go in on this. Prayer will always make a difference
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in your life. Whether it makes a difference in
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the other person's life or not. The one you're
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praying for will always make a difference in
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your life. That's exactly right. So pray. Continue
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to pray. Amen. Okay. Thank you. Dear my Father,
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I thank you for this time, Lord, and the study
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of Mark the Lord. And I just thank you for your
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examples for us, Lord. And thank you for the
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example of prayer, Lord, and the importance of
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it, Lord. Just thank you. for that and I pray
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that we will not only in prayer but we will during
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the day think about you and everything that we
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do Lord. I pray for safety as we go home and
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I also pray that we will think about what we've
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talked about tonight Lord and apply it in our
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lives Lord. Pray these things from your sensei.
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I agree.