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August 31, 2025 - Ministry Partners Conference - Session 1 - Miriam Gebb, RN, Reach Beyond

The Blue Ridge Experience

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  1. Well, it's a privilege for me to be able to stand

  2. up here to introduce Miriam Miriam correct me

  3. if I'm wrong, but your dad your father was a

  4. former pastor of literary of actual Bible for

  5. many years as radio program he was a real scholar

  6. and I've heard a lot of Through the church a

  7. lot of the good things about him and I appreciate

  8. his influence in your life and excited about

  9. what God is doing so Well that are there any

  10. like teenagers well then Then all of my questions

  11. are going to be for the adults. Okay. But that's,

  12. yeah. Okay. Then I'll start, I'll start with,

  13. oh dear, they have that on. Oh dear. Well good

  14. morning everyone. And I've so appreciated your

  15. all's prayers over the years. Yeah, after my

  16. dad died in a car accident It was then you came

  17. and were there at the church and Yeah, it's interesting

  18. what's happened over the years Then I'll start

  19. since the kids aren't here I'll start And just

  20. to kind of tell you all what's been happening.

  21. I'm officially retired But I'm going back four

  22. to six months out of the year. Two years now,

  23. I've gone back for six months. And it looks like

  24. maybe it'll be four months this time as a volunteer

  25. in the Shell Hospital, which is the Mission Hospital.

  26. And they now have a chaplaincy team, which there

  27. was one person, there was not a team. that person

  28. said well I'm only a chaplain for inpatient patients

  29. not for the clinic area and so the Lord has been

  30. working and now there's a chaplain team and so

  31. I may be phasing out of that what I have been

  32. doing over the years is When jungle people come

  33. in, because that's where my main focus was with

  34. the jungle people, when they come into the hospital,

  35. I kind of walk them through the system, because

  36. it's kind of scary, and a lot of times they don't

  37. have money. There's no way to earn a living in

  38. the jungle, but they have everything they need.

  39. They have family, they have roof over their head,

  40. they have food, and you show up at a family's

  41. house. they're automatically open to feeding

  42. you and taking care of you, which is a little

  43. different than here. Maybe a hundred years ago,

  44. that's what happened, but so I helped them walk

  45. through and we have a small pharmacy at the hospital,

  46. but many times we need to go into a pharmacy

  47. and buy the medicines for them and the Lord has

  48. provided money for that. ministry and I'm on

  49. WhatsApp and so they're calling me all the time

  50. and yes I'm sorry to interrupt so we're new what

  51. country are you oh sorry about that I'm sorry

  52. I'm in Ecuador South America and Ecuador gets

  53. its name from the equator because the equator

  54. runs right through Ecuador and It was HCJB, which

  55. are the call letters of a radio station. Now

  56. the radio station has their own Ecuadorian foundation.

  57. And HCJB, or Reach Beyond, as it's known now,

  58. is more focusing. They want to decrease their

  59. footprint. Missionaries have been in Ecuador

  60. for about 100 years. And so they figure it's

  61. time for the Ecuadorians to take over. Thank

  62. you for that question. And anybody else? Just

  63. ask. And so the hospital is no longer part of

  64. HCJB or Reach Beyond. It is now an Ecuadorian

  65. foundation that is recognized by the government.

  66. And that is very important because a couple of

  67. years ago there was a president who wanted to

  68. get rid of all foreign entities. And so this

  69. way, the hospital is recognized by the government

  70. and has legal rights to function. And a German

  71. surgeon who used to work in the hospital, he's

  72. now retired, he helped set up this foundation.

  73. And the leaders there are... faithful to the

  74. Lord and so this is it they're having a bit of

  75. a problem at the hospital because before there

  76. were a lot of missionary doctors and a lot of

  77. missionary nurses and the nurses and the missionaries

  78. have their own support but now they have they

  79. only have one missionary from Holland And he's

  80. a doctor, and he's going to be going back for

  81. a couple of months to Holland. And he is the

  82. only missionary who receives support from outside.

  83. So now the hospital is having to hire professionals,

  84. nurses, doctors, and so forth. And so they're

  85. having a bit of a difficult time. They do have

  86. day surgeries and sometimes those surgeries stay

  87. two or three nights, but they don't have regular

  88. inpatient like we did before just because of

  89. the financial covering for 24 hours of nurses

  90. and docs. So please be praying for the hospital

  91. that the leaders there would have wisdom. and

  92. knowing what to do and then then the government

  93. comes in and says um you need and they just updated

  94. the operating room but that wasn't good enough

  95. and so they had to redo the floors and redo all

  96. of the walls and that was quite expensive too

  97. um so these are things um money speaks a lot

  98. but god owns the cattle on a thousand hills and

  99. he is able to intervene. Okay. Okay, that's for

  100. later. Any other questions about what I've just

  101. said? The hospital you say is one of the entrances,

  102. it does need help? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And

  103. I can give you that information. There's a foundation,

  104. a tax deductible foundation here in the US that

  105. receives money that will go to the hospital.

  106. How big is the hospital? Had about 40 beds and

  107. I don't know the exact number of doctors. They're

  108. looking for specialists, and sometimes specialists

  109. will come just for like a couple hours in the

  110. morning, two days a week. And we have a pediatrician,

  111. we have some surgeons, and other specialties.

  112. So, I'll share something else that's difficult.

  113. My boss down there, the director of the department

  114. where I... in Shell. He's Ecuadorian and he wanted

  115. me to funnel all of the patients that came to

  116. me to the Ecuadorian health care system and it

  117. is a socialist system and the indigenous people

  118. are not really respected. They're not quite human

  119. in some people's eyes and so that has made it

  120. difficult. So I started asking people when they

  121. came to me, what have you been to the clinic?

  122. Oh yes, I went four times. Now, I don't know

  123. if this is true. This is just what I was told.

  124. Went four times and all they do is give me Tylenol.

  125. And then another lady came and I said, have you

  126. been to the health department? She said, oh yes.

  127. They gave me an appointment for two weeks. And

  128. she said, I'll either be better or dead by then.

  129. So they are not treated well. Now, there's a

  130. social worker in community development, community,

  131. ministries in Shell. And if she goes with them,

  132. they're treated very well. But she can't be everywhere

  133. at once. And so that makes it a little bit difficult.

  134. That's kind of why I feel like I should be there

  135. in Ecuador to help people when I can. We need

  136. to pray about that, don't we? Yeah. So what happens

  137. at the Mission Hospital, you can come in, you

  138. get your appointment. You can walk in and get

  139. appointments. And a doctor will see you. If it's

  140. a specialist, it might take longer. You can get

  141. lab work done. You can get x -rays done We need

  142. an echo tech echo sonogram or how do you say

  143. that? Well Yeah, we can do EKG's but then they

  144. send them to Cardiologist, huh? Echo cart, that's

  145. for the heart. What's it when you just check

  146. your Ultrasounds that's the name of it. Yeah,

  147. we call them echoes, but they're ultrasounds

  148. and You can get we need an ultrasound tech So

  149. that it can be taken care of there and not have

  150. to send them to Puyo Which is kind of scary for

  151. people when you come out of the jungle and so

  152. They can get everything done Leave with a tentative

  153. diagnosis. Not always can you do a diagnosis

  154. that same day if you need other tests and leave

  155. with medicines and so in one day and that just

  156. I Just feel a lot more comfortable with that

  157. instead of sending people away who are hurting

  158. So yeah, please be in prayer for the hospital

  159. So Lord willing when I go back last year, I didn't

  160. make any jungle trips Because my knee was really

  161. bad and I thank the Lord for physical therapy

  162. that I've been able to get I have two more weeks

  163. of physical therapy. And so my knee is a lot

  164. more stable and and hurts less So I'm hoping

  165. to get back to some of the jungle communities

  166. But then also be available for those people from

  167. the jungle that come out that need help. When

  168. I went down there, it was really interesting.

  169. I was still applying to the mission. I guess

  170. I had been accepted and I wrote the mission director.

  171. I said, there's an opportunity to be a nurse

  172. practitioner, to go into a course with a nurse

  173. practitioner. And he says, go for it. Well, I

  174. don't know. I did not know. And I don't think

  175. he knew, but the Lord was guiding him. And with

  176. my nurse practitioner training, I was able to

  177. do the jungle work. And for many years until

  178. about 10 years ago, I was able to look at the

  179. patients, diagnose them, give them antibiotics.

  180. or whatever it was that they needed. Now, the

  181. last 10 years, the socialistic government said,

  182. no, you're a nurse. They don't know what nurse

  183. practitioners or physicians assistant. That is

  184. out of their realm. And you can't diagnose. You

  185. can't prescribe medicines. So I'm very thankful

  186. for that training. And God knew that I would

  187. need that. So what I was doing until about 10

  188. years ago was training village health workers.

  189. And a lot of it was prevention. Some of it was

  190. teaching them how to give the relevant information

  191. over the radio, over a two -way radio that MAF

  192. has, Mission Aviation Fellowship. and be able

  193. to send in medicines when it's necessary, or

  194. bring out the patient to the hospital. So I was

  195. training village health workers with the shwar,

  196. the atshwar, the kichwa, and the wawrani, formerly

  197. known as alkas. So that's what I was doing for

  198. a lot of time. This is not anything that I had

  199. planned to say, but I'll say this. Okay, I interrupted

  200. myself, sorry. So it's been wonderful. One of

  201. the communities that I went to, one of my health

  202. promoters was now the church leader in that community.

  203. So I asked him, I said, are you still working

  204. as a village health worker? And he said, no,

  205. and just waited. And I did not respond because

  206. I didn't want to be negative. I don't know all

  207. of the situation that he's facing. And then after

  208. a silence, he said, but I've taught everything

  209. you taught me to my son. And he's the village

  210. health worker. I just got chills again thinking

  211. about that because some have been able to pass

  212. that on and that is important. I'm glad he's

  213. a church leader. He just didn't have time to

  214. do the other health issues as well. So be praying

  215. for the jungle people. They need good strong

  216. leaders in their churches and they also need

  217. to continue to be concerned about their communities.

  218. One of the issues is a lot of the parents want

  219. their kids to be educated. In the jungle they

  220. have up to sixth grade and so a lot of times

  221. those kids come out to the big city which isn't

  222. that big. It's by the hospital. It's maybe 3

  223. ,000 people. But they come out and they don't

  224. want to be known as indigenous or Indians because

  225. they're looked down on. So they're changing the

  226. way they appear so that they'll fit in with the

  227. dominant culture. The problem is that a lot of

  228. the girls get pregnant. then they give their

  229. baby to the mom in the jungle for the mom to

  230. raise and they want to fit in with the and get

  231. their high school education. If the last two

  232. years of high school what you can do is go into

  233. teaching and then you have another two years

  234. and then you get a teaching certificate. So a

  235. lot of the people are wanting to do that. A lot

  236. of the teens from the jungle. But it's really

  237. sad because they come out and they get teaching

  238. of evolution and they get a lot of godless teaching

  239. and it's just really sad to see the young people.

  240. Whereas the Alka or the Waorani Indians and most

  241. of some of you might know about that back in

  242. 1956. there were five missionaries who were speared

  243. by the Alka Indians and this little spear here

  244. is made by them but it's a miniature and it's

  245. got beveled edges here and this is what they

  246. what they do only their spears are 10 to 12 feet

  247. long and they even have identity that you can

  248. tell what family they're from by the, what do

  249. you call these? The, yeah. And then on the other

  250. end is individual persons. So that if you find

  251. a dead body in the jungle with a spear in them,

  252. you know who did it. You know what family they're

  253. from, you know. the individual that did it. Now

  254. this doesn't have that on this end, but it's

  255. how this little, how these little wrappings are

  256. wrapped so that you know the individual. This

  257. I'm going to leave here for the church. So that's

  258. just as a prayer reminder. And I don't know who

  259. did it, but somebody put out birds. and all kinds

  260. of things. Now this, this is Quechua and if you're

  261. from Peru it's Quechua because the dialect is

  262. a little different. So if you hear Quechua and

  263. you think, she's not pronouncing it right, and

  264. Quechua is in Peru and Bolivia and Quechua is

  265. in Ecuador. And this is the kind of woven things

  266. that they... They do that by hand, that weave

  267. and stuff. Oh yes, yeah. Not so much now, but

  268. when I first went there, yeah. Yes. And then

  269. you have a little quichua doll here. And there's

  270. lots of llamas in that whole area. Not so many

  271. in Ecuador, but in the highlands you find it.

  272. And it's 13, 15 ,000 feet going over. Let's see

  273. what else. And they use a lot of the pottery

  274. and so forth too. Till now, are there any questions?

  275. I have a question. Yes? You're talking about

  276. the teens going into schools and stuff. If you

  277. get enough of the teens that get their teaching

  278. certificate, is it possible for them to learn

  279. to be able to teach grades higher than six? Oh

  280. yes. Yeah, that's the whole point. Yeah. And

  281. some of them are wanting to go back into the

  282. jungle. so that the people don't have to leave

  283. their families. And so, yes, those especially

  284. the believers. But pray for the teens that come

  285. out to get their teaching degrees or some of

  286. them are doing other things like computer science,

  287. tourism, and getting their degrees so that they

  288. can have an income. So yes, there's a lot of

  289. different things. There's a number of different

  290. languages that they use? Yes. Now I can't speak

  291. for Peru and Bolivia, but in Ecuador there are

  292. eight main languages other than Spanish. And

  293. some of them are similar. and they can understand

  294. each other and others are completely different.

  295. Like the K 'ichwa is completely different from

  296. the At -shuar and the Shuar. And Shibiar, that's

  297. another one that's... And then the Auqa is from

  298. Wycliffe Bible translators. The Auqa or the Waorani

  299. language is completely unrelated to any other

  300. language in the world. Yeah. So they have been

  301. isolated for so many years. And the alka means

  302. savage. So I try not to use that word down there.

  303. It seems like it's very derogatory. And now they're

  304. wawrani, which means the people in their own

  305. language. So we are the people. And that's there.

  306. One thing that's sad about the Waworani Indians,

  307. when the missionaries were killed, then Rachel

  308. Saint, who was the sister of one of the fellows

  309. that was speared, and Elizabeth Elliott, who

  310. is the wife of one of the men that was speared,

  311. they went back into the jungle. And they... Had

  312. to learn the language had to work from nothing

  313. to work with them and The reason I'm smiling

  314. is because there's a problem with missionaries

  315. because a lot of the missionaries are leaders

  316. and They need to be but then you have these strong

  317. personalities that butt heads And this is what

  318. happened with Elizabeth Elliott and Rachel Saint.

  319. They didn't agree on things, and it's sad. That

  320. happens here in the U .S. too. And churches split

  321. over sometimes what we would think trivial things.

  322. So pray for your missionaries. that they would

  323. be sensitive to the other missionaries, that

  324. they would be sensitive to the people, and let

  325. the people take the leadership when it's their

  326. turn. It's easy for us missionaries to think

  327. that we know it all and we don't. So, okay, any

  328. other? Yeah, I got a question. In the jungle,

  329. do you ever see them coming in with, like, speedbikes?

  330. Oh, yes. I think they got a poisonous frog. Okay,

  331. that's more in Columbia. Okay. I've never seen

  332. anybody bitten by a or They they it the poison

  333. is in the skin and In Columbia and in other parts

  334. they use that for poison darts when they go hunting

  335. But that's not been a real issue snake bites

  336. are a definite issue Yes, yeah and I'll have

  337. to tell you something really funny about the

  338. snake, well, come. I was walking down the hall,

  339. just kind of talking to myself, and there's a

  340. snake bite season. And so I think, oh, why are

  341. there so many snake bites right now? And the

  342. lady that was in the hall, she said, Don't you

  343. know I'm supposed to know everything Don't you

  344. know and I said no why and she said it's because

  345. the resurrection celebration of the resurrection

  346. is coming and Satan is angry and It's there's

  347. a season where there's more snake bites and it's

  348. right before Easter and so Yeah, don't you know?

  349. I mean it's very obvious. So, I'm not sure. I

  350. might have learned more from them than they learned

  351. from me. So, we both were learning together.

  352. So, oh dear. Let me start with what I was gonna

  353. do for the kids. Okay, um now this this is miniature

  354. This is a miniature net there this is for fishing

  355. and They it's a big net about this big and then

  356. the women depending on how long they're their

  357. arm is that's how deep it would be and So they

  358. go fishing and they use a poison that It's it's

  359. a route and they take the route and they beat

  360. it in the river upstream and it's a white milky

  361. liquid and The men are at the top and they're

  362. using their spears because there's It's a sport

  363. and so then further down are the women with their

  364. fish nets and they, a lot of times they'll have

  365. a basket on their back and then they'll put the

  366. fish in there or they'll put a piece of vine

  367. through the gills and keep the fish that way.

  368. And then down further, where this little stream

  369. meets a big river, they have put bamboo stakes

  370. so the fish can't escape, the water can escape,

  371. but not the fish. And so then down at the bottom

  372. part, The women who are pregnant, or the old

  373. ladies, or ladies that have little kids, they'll

  374. be at the very bottom. And then they can catch

  375. the fish. And then afterwards, it's a day -long

  376. thing. Afterwards, everybody gets together and

  377. starts cleaning the fish. And then the fish gets

  378. smoked. This is kind of the story of the fishnet.

  379. And what I was going to do with the kids, I wasn't

  380. going to tell them all that. Do they do that

  381. as a community? Yes. Or as individuals? You can't

  382. chew fish, that's your fish. Well, they do it

  383. as a community group. And I'm not sure how they

  384. separate it up. Since almost everybody in the

  385. community are relatives. So then you know, that's

  386. and I don't understand the other language Spanish

  387. I can handle but so they're probably Deciding

  388. all of that and I was unaware of it. Okay My

  389. question for the little kids was okay Do they

  390. have fishnets in the Bible? Okay, so I want you

  391. all to tell me, okay, where does it talk about

  392. fishnets in the Bible? Peter, he was a fisherman,

  393. he had nets. Exactly. Peter, James, and John.

  394. Okay. Okay. So, and then what were the disciples

  395. taught? You will be fishers of men. Okay. So

  396. that was a little thing for the kids. And then

  397. the next thing was the spear. Do we have spears

  398. in the Bible? Yeah. Okay. Jesus' side was punched

  399. with the spear. Okay. Jesus' side. After he was

  400. already dead and out came blood and water. So

  401. it had separated and that shows the death. So

  402. where else would there be spears? Okay, the thorn

  403. in the flesh, and in Sunday school class you

  404. were talking about difficult times. And sometimes

  405. these thorns make us more like Him, create His

  406. image in us. Yeah. But when you're in the middle

  407. of it, you don't like it. Okay, this is a headdress.

  408. The Indians like to put in feathers and feathers

  409. are a little hard to explain to some people because

  410. they say, well, you kill those birds. So this

  411. is just a headdress. Do we have any mention of

  412. headdresses or crowns in the Bible? Okay, what

  413. give me examples of the crowns Yeah, okay, there's

  414. the crown of thorns yes We can work for crown

  415. we give crowns and then we Throw our crowns at

  416. his feet. Yeah, we throw our crowns at his feet

  417. Okay And then someone was playing the flute I

  418. think And this is, where did it go? Here. Okay,

  419. now this is small. The ones that the Highland

  420. Keech was used are about this long. So you can

  421. play songs on this. And it's kind of like a flute.

  422. What, not necessarily flutes, but what do musical

  423. instruments mean in the Bible? Was it praise?

  424. Praise? Praising the Lord, yeah. How often in

  425. the Psalms it talks about praising the Lord.

  426. So this is something that's important with the

  427. fellowship. the community praise to the Lord.

  428. We as individuals should praise the Lord, but

  429. also as a group. Okay, let's see what else comes

  430. up. Okay, baskets. Are baskets mentioned in the

  431. Bible? Yes. Okay, give me some examples. I was

  432. going to try to get these kids to do those things.

  433. Yes, yes, and so there's there's many examples

  434. of baskets in the Bible and yet these are things

  435. that are common to them and when Jesus preached

  436. are taught He used things that were known to

  437. get them to the unknown Like the harvest the

  438. harvest is plenteous But the labors are few.

  439. They knew about harvest. And so that's what I

  440. was going to try to do with the kids. I don't

  441. know. This might have been beyond them. I don't

  442. know. So then the basket. And then how many baskets

  443. were taken up after Jesus multiplied? Twelve

  444. and seven. And there was a time when I thought...

  445. Hey, these Gospels don't agree. But there's one

  446. Gospel that has both accounts. And so that confirms

  447. the validity of the Bible. Okay. And there's

  448. another. The Waorani did not wear a lot of clothes.

  449. They had cotton that they planted and they used

  450. it for armbands. The Shuar men had little short

  451. skirts. The women had longer skirts that they

  452. used to make out of the cotton that grows in

  453. the jungle. And I don't know if I have, if I

  454. brought that here. But anyway, there's, and I

  455. didn't look it up. I have this for later. that

  456. Though a Bible says with food and clothing be

  457. content But some people say that that and I'm

  458. not a Greek scholar or anything, but that that

  459. means food and covering so that could be a Roof

  460. over your head or the clothing it could it could

  461. apply to both? and then Christ said, or Jesus

  462. said, He had no place to lay His head. And He

  463. didn't own anything. But God always provided

  464. a place. And God can provide for us as well.

  465. Okay. Oh dear. I'm never going to get through

  466. all of this. Okay. Then I was going to ask them

  467. about robots. You know, who made robots? Man,

  468. man made robots. What do robots do? What man

  469. tells them to do, okay. We are not robots. We

  470. have a choice. And in the jungle I use this.

  471. Who built this canoe? And they tell me the name

  472. of the guy or the family. that built the dugout

  473. canoe and well who has the right to say who can

  474. go in that canoe or same thing for a house if

  475. you have built your house then you have the right

  476. to say no don't want you coming or yes you are

  477. very welcome here and so I was going to use that

  478. with the kids just to say We are not robots we

  479. have a right to decide who comes in and is in

  480. control of our life and Those are decisions.

  481. God doesn't force us to accept him, but he's

  482. offered his love Them Okay Then I wanted to share

  483. a little bit about Dawa Dawa was the wife of

  484. one of the fellows who killed the missionaries,

  485. who speared the missionaries. And she and the

  486. other women were up on a little hill watching,

  487. watching when this was happening. And she said,

  488. before the missionaries came, I didn't sleep

  489. very well, because the Waorani, or the Alcas,

  490. came and speared at night. And so she said, I

  491. never did sleep well until the missionaries told

  492. me that Christ forgave me and that I can forgive

  493. those people. And right there was the man who

  494. had killed her father. And yet they were in the

  495. same location. And they were now believers. And

  496. also, There was no word for forgiveness with

  497. the Waorani. It's just revenge, like the Hatfields

  498. and the Mukoys. And there was no word for forgiveness.

  499. And so a missionary who was trying to work with

  500. them tried to explain what forgiveness is. And

  501. I don't know if it was Dayuma? or if it was somebody

  502. else, but they said, oh, that's love. So they

  503. were equating forgiveness with love, and love

  504. your enemies? Ooh, that's hard sometimes. Yeah,

  505. it is hard. Okay. Okay, he loved the, what the

  506. father's love has for us, so that we can be called

  507. his children. and he sacrificed his only son

  508. on the cross. And that is love, even though...

  509. And he forgave the people who were killing him,

  510. who had beaten him, who had put that crown of

  511. thorns on his head. Okay, I got ahead of myself.

  512. I wanted to talk about shoes. Now these are the

  513. these are the Highland Kichwa shoes and at that

  514. time you just couldn't go and buy a pair of shoes

  515. and so they took rope and Made shoes and you

  516. can come up and look at these things later and

  517. then later on They would take tires and make

  518. the soles from the tires And then, of course,

  519. this is hand -woven. And so you can come and

  520. look at these shoes a little bit later. Now,

  521. where in the Bible does it talk about shoes?

  522. Okay. Any others? Yes, the gospel of peace. So

  523. this is, it's so interesting because that's what

  524. Jesus did. He took things from the ordinary and

  525. made application to the people. And that's what

  526. I've tried to do. I haven't always been so good

  527. at it. In Ecuador, they know I'm a foreigner.

  528. They most of them know I'm a missionary so it's

  529. okay I'll talk about the Lord and they'll listen

  530. politely not everybody agrees with me, but they'll

  531. listen politely but coming back here to the states

  532. and seeing my neighbors and and talking to people

  533. that's hard I Don't know if you all have experienced

  534. that or not and when I first came back The lady

  535. across the street who's from China, her mother

  536. used to live in the house with her and she's

  537. passed on. And I felt a burden for her, so I

  538. got a Chinese Bible for her and gave her the

  539. Bible. Well, when I came back this year, the

  540. first time I ran into her on the street, she

  541. walks her dogs. She said, now your mother, essentially

  542. tried to evangelize and so she was just letting

  543. me know she didn't want to hear any of this she

  544. didn't want to know any of this and just keep

  545. quiet and I hadn't even said anything but because

  546. of the Bible now I don't know what effect that

  547. Bible had but it was in Chinese and I'm hoping

  548. and praying that the Lord used that but the daughter

  549. wanted nothing to do with that And I'm sure that

  550. you have found that too. And if you talk to them,

  551. well, about building a canoe or building a house,

  552. so the builder is able to have the say. Well,

  553. God created the world, but now nobody believes

  554. that anymore. or they believe it was 15 million

  555. years ago, and all of this stuff happened on

  556. its own. And so it's really hard to witness to

  557. people and say, well, do you go to a church?

  558. And I'd ask this of another neighbor, and she

  559. goes to a, yeah, my spiritual experience is,

  560. but it was one of these. I'm not sure exactly

  561. what the name of the church was but it was the

  562. spiritual and the meditation and and all of this

  563. stuff and it's just it's hard to relate to that.

  564. So I would ask for prayers as for all of us that

  565. we would have wisdom to know what questions to

  566. ask and how to interact with our neighbors because

  567. they need the Lord as well. And then I was going

  568. to close with, weave a story to tell to the nations.

  569. Any other questions before I... You talk a lot

  570. about the jungle. When I picture a jungle, I

  571. picture a machete going through and having to

  572. cut vines. You had mentioned cotton. Do they

  573. grow that cotton or do they just harvest the

  574. cotton? If they find it, then they will actually

  575. put it near their houses and plant it. Because

  576. before there was no communication with the outside

  577. world. And so they had to do everything. Clothes,

  578. food, they had to do everything. True. Now there

  579. are roads in some of the places. But that's got

  580. its disadvantages. People were saying, oh good,

  581. now we can take our bananas and sell them in

  582. the city. We can take the plantainos and the

  583. papayas and the pineapples and all of this stuff.

  584. But then the trucks that come in bring in beer

  585. and other things that are detrimental. And now...

  586. Now they have, some of the communities have internet

  587. and so there's all kinds of garbage that it's

  588. good because the people can talk to me and say

  589. I'm sick and I'll call the hospital and say so

  590. and so is coming and please take care of their

  591. bill. I'll arrange later. But all this other

  592. garbage that's coming in is distracting the people.

  593. from even wanting to know the Lord, they think,

  594. you know, even the kids that come out and are

  595. educated, they think, well, I know more than

  596. my parents. And so there are valuable things

  597. in the culture, like the family unit and respect

  598. for elders. And now a lot of that is disappearing

  599. because of the changes. Yes, yeah Now somebody

  600. I think it was you asked about snake bites, okay

  601. They have what they a bushmaster and the ekis

  602. which that's their name for it and It's it's

  603. a very very poisonous snake and even the babies

  604. when they first hatch They are very venomous

  605. as they have as much venom as their parents that

  606. are much longer. I used to really be afraid to

  607. go to the jungle because of the snakes. And when

  608. I would get off the plane at Missionary Aviation

  609. Fellowship plane, I'd go to the schoolhouse.

  610. That's where we would see patients. That's where

  611. I slept. And for the longest time, I did not

  612. go. out except when I needed to, but not very

  613. far. And it was very interesting. God has a sense

  614. of humor. And while I was in the jungle, I never,

  615. at that period of time, I didn't see a snake.

  616. But two snakes on separate occasions came into

  617. my apartment in Shell, which was near the hospital.

  618. And so it's like, Miriam, if you're where I want

  619. you to be, you'll be safe until the time comes.

  620. And so that's another thing that was very interesting

  621. to me. Anyway, that's another thing. Any other

  622. comments or questions? Well I've heard that snakes

  623. are more afraid of you than you are of them.

  624. Some snakes, it's true. If they're corals, they'll

  625. run. But there are other snakes, and some of

  626. them are in Ecuador, because there was a missionary

  627. who ran into a snake, and then she started running

  628. away from the snake. At that time, we all wore

  629. skirts. And the snake chased her and actually

  630. got the hem of her... Garment. So, yes, most

  631. of them don't want confrontation, but some of

  632. them are very aggressive. Most people don't like

  633. them, I guess. Yes. In Ecuador, there's a saying

  634. The only good snake is a dead snake. But the

  635. black snakes are very good. I mean they take

  636. care of mice and rats and they'll even eat poisonous

  637. snakes and they're not affected. The thought

  638. just occurred to me this was not... thought of

  639. before is that if we can be more like the black

  640. snake when people come at us and We don't react

  641. we don't They might have venomous words and yet

  642. their venom doesn't hurt the fat black snake

  643. and the black snake just Goes on so Yeah, anyway,

  644. okay So I think if you all want to come up, there's

  645. some pictures of the various animals there. There's

  646. this that I'm leaving. His call, it's a poem.

  647. See the fields. But seeing it only, there is

  648. work for you to do. And so these are some things

  649. that I can leave here for you all to take as

  650. you. would want. Anything else? When did the

  651. Lord start calling you into the mission field

  652. to do the work that you're doing? My dad was

  653. a pastor. You knew that. And so a lot of times

  654. we had missionaries stay at our house. So ever

  655. since I can remember, there were missionaries

  656. who came and told stories about the mission field.

  657. And so I think that was, that started it. But

  658. then there were two old -made missionaries that

  659. came and spoke at the church in Lakeland where

  660. I was born. And I don't remember anything. I

  661. remember two things that they said. One was they

  662. woke up one morning and all of the the people,

  663. they were missionaries in Africa. And everybody

  664. was out there talking and talking and talking

  665. and they went out to see what it was. And there

  666. was a huge lion footprints all around their house.

  667. And they had no windows, they had openings, but

  668. there was no way to close your windows. And you

  669. didn't want to because it was so hot there. And

  670. so here was these huge lion footprints. circling

  671. the house and nothing happened to them. And so

  672. God used that story to tell me that God's protection

  673. is with you if you know where you should be.

  674. And then the other story they said, if twins

  675. were born, they thought one was a human child

  676. and one was a demon child. And a lot of times

  677. they would kill them both. because they didn't

  678. know which was which, or they'd let them starve.

  679. And so, I remember while they were still speaking,

  680. inside of myself I said, I gotta go and tell

  681. them it's okay. That those are made in God's

  682. image. And that's, I guess this is the end. So

  683. anyway, I was just, I don't know if the kids

  684. know that song. We have a storage to tell to

  685. the nations. Where is it? So did they receive

  686. that information when you told them about the

  687. twins? There were twins that were born in Ecuador

  688. out in the jungle. And there were two, there

  689. were several sets of twins. Sometimes I didn't

  690. hear about it until after the fact. But they'll

  691. feed one. They'll choose one and feed one. And

  692. the interesting about this story is that the

  693. grandmother said, I'll take this one. Well, that

  694. one was not doing well. And they figured that

  695. they didn't have enough milk for both. And I

  696. said, oh, yes, your body will produce what's

  697. needed. And so anyway, the grandmother took the

  698. one kid and the kid was really, really bad. And

  699. I was scheduled to go in for a course, a health

  700. course with the health promoters. And it rained

  701. that day and I couldn't get in. But the lady

  702. also heard on the two -way radio that I was coming.

  703. So she brought both of the sick babies. to the

  704. community but I wasn't there because the plane

  705. didn't arrive. So my health promoter and they

  706. were both at the point of death I think and she

  707. was able to get them hydrated. She had a baby

  708. as well so she gave them her milk and it was

  709. it was just so neat because the health promoter

  710. came to me the next day and told me what the

  711. situation was. They still were not well completely

  712. but They made it through the night with the health

  713. promoter's attention. And then we mixed up some

  714. formula, which is you couldn't, at that point,

  715. you couldn't buy formula. But it's something

  716. that they had used in Africa for the babies.

  717. powdered milk and oil and what else was it there

  718. were three things and you make a concentrate

  719. and then You able to feed and they made it to

  720. their teen years. I haven't I don't know about

  721. them now but they they made it and so that's

  722. There's been a lot of blessings that I've had

  723. in my own experiences And I'm just very thankful

  724. for that. And I better shut up.