(BONUS EPISODE) September 28, 2025 - Sunday Evening Service with Werner Katzenberger - What is Men, While Believing in Jesus

I hope I do display some sort of enthusiasm this

morning, following this thing -fest we had. I

guess you have to, once in a while, allow the

younger people to dictate the rhythm and the

speed, although I have a hard time following

at times. But it was very nice. very nice but

tonight you know I was thinking a lot of times

I've talked to people and a lot of the verses

in the Bible speak about the concept what is

meant I put that in what is meant by believing

in Jesus I'm gonna go through a lot of verses

here and I want you to think about this We, you

know, we talk to people and we quote John 3 .16,

neither believers in the son, of course, as eternal

life, he believes not, shall not see life, and

so forth. But in the light that the eternal God

of the universe is ultimately holy, his righteousness

and justice are perfect and justified, his unconditional

love for the children of man is demonstrated

clearly at Calvary. No one has an excuse not

to be reconciled to God. And the truth, of course,

is Jesus is the way. The verses I have today

are very familiar to you. I chose a lot of verses

that we all know. I want to put them all together

in different headings here to come up with the

idea and with an explanation, more or less, what

we believe as far as Jesus is concerned, who

is saying it, and so forth and so on. Let me

read a few verses to get you into this in John.

I have various verses. I don't know if you want

to continue or to follow along, but you can take

notes. John 3 .16, of course you know that, God

so loved the world He gave His only begotten

Son, that whosoever believes in Him, there again

it's the same concept, believes in Jesus, believes

in Him, has eternal life. And, of course, he

that believes not is condemned. Romans 6, 23,

all have sinned to come short of the glory of

God. In other words, this verse declares every

person guilty and condemned before God, who is

ultimately holy. 2 Corinthians 2, 21, But the

Father made him, Jesus Christ, who knew no sin,

to be sin for us, that we should be made the

righteousness of God in him. Conclusion is, Jesus

is the only way to come to God and have eternal

life. Believing in Him, the beloved Son shall

have eternal life, of course, John 3 .16 and

John 3 .17. God testified that through Him the

world might be saved. Why then is not everyone

in the world saved? Of course, the concept is

to believe and to respond to this love that God

has put forth to the world in Jesus Christ. 3

.18. In all these verses, 3 .16, 3 .17, and 3

.18 in John chapter 3, believing is mentioned.

John 3 · chapter mention

He who believes in Him is not condemned. John

3 .18. He who is not condemned is a child of

God. He who believes not in Him is condemned

already. He does not believe in the only begotten

Son of God. This believing concept is all through

this whole New Testament here. And, you know,

I have no computer at home. And when I have a

topic that I explore, I write usually three studies.

And each study had seven pages. And it was crazy

to try to type one up for me. So I have usually...

21 pages like this, hand written for every time

I come up, you know. It is quite a bit of handwriting,

but I enjoy it. And like I say, it keeps my fingers

limber. John 3 .36. Let me go ahead and flip

a few pages here because... I'm still in my second

study here. All right. Sorry David, I messed

you up back there. All right. So the central

figure of the Bible is Jesus Christ, the incarnation,

the greatest event of Earth's history. And in

John, like I mentioned before, in John, three

times, as I mentioned, believing in Jesus, results

in eternal life. In 318, who believes in Him

is not condemned or covered by God's righteousness.

The child of God who believes not is condemned

already. He has not believed in the only begotten

Son of God. Of course, this concept of righteousness

imparted to us or standing covered in Christ's

righteousness before God, or Jesus imparts to

us sinful men His own righteousness, that is

what salvation is, imparted righteousness, the

righteousness of Jesus Christ. John 3 .35, the

Father has loved the Son, has given all things

into His hand. And 3 .36, He who believes in

the Son has everlasting life. He who does not

believe the Son shall not see life. On this earth

now, on the glorified earth which is to come,

according to 2 Peter 3 .13, and I have put that

in because I want to concentrate on the gentleman

that comes by my place once in a while from the

Watchtower Society or George Witnesses. He is

set to live eternally on this earth, but it is

not possible, we know that, unless one is...

righteous before Holy God, because some day deserves

being part of the dwelling place of the righteous.

What about Jesus in the Bible? And it is a different

thing. Now, let's talk about Jesus Christ, believing

in Jesus Christ. Now, I just picked three prominent

religions, and the question is, there must be

many Jesuses. There must be. For example, the

Mormon Jesus. Question. Do you believe in Jesus?

Oh yes we do. The father greeted him along with

the rest of his spirit sons. He was greeted an

archangel along with Lucifer and Michael. When

Lucifer turned bad and became Satan, God's arch

enemy, Jesus remained the father's good and obedient

son. So then, Jesus and Lucifer, now Satan, are

really brothers. Certainly not the same Jesus,

right? No. Jehovah's Witnesses watched all society.

Oh yes, we believe in Jesus. He began when he

was born in Bethlehem, of Mary. He grew up a

man, and his baptism by John in the River Jordan,

the Spirit of God came upon him in the form of

a dove, sent by Jehovah to anoint him. From this

moment on, Jesus became God's anointed son. Even

though Jesus said, the Father and I are one,

John 10 .30. In other words, his original beginning

was in Bethlehem, not the same Jesus. And one

more is the Muslim religion of Islam. We hear

so much about that. Do we believe in Jesus? Oh

yes, we believe in Jesus. Jesus is a prophet

of Allah, but not to the same stature of Muhammad.

If he did not die, Allah would not permit his

prophet to be crucified by infidels. An imposter

died in his place. Allah took him, this Jesus,

to heaven. In his appointed time, he will come

back to earth and testify for Islam. Of course,

obviously, not the same Jesus, the Bible. So,

who is this Jesus who calls himself the Son of

God? Let the true Jesus stand up, in other words,

the Bible testifies of itself. The true Jesus

of the Bible, Romans 3, 4 of course, we know

that, let God be true and every man a liar. And

all these religions I mentioned are originated

by people, by men. So let God speak for himself.

Of course we have John 11, 25 and 26. Jesus speaking

to Martha, Lazarus' sister, I'm the resurrection

and the life. You believes in me, the same concept.

all through these verses. Of course, Jesus is

not speaking of the physical death, but he speaks

of the condemnation in the lake of fire, which

is the second death, Revelation 21 .8. Revelation

26. Jesus and the Father is testifying. 1st John

5, 11 and 12. Let me read these verses. And this

is a testimony that God has given us eternal

life and this life is in His Son. who has the

Son has life, who does not have the Son of God

does not have life. Indeed these things are written

to you, that believing in the name of the Son

of God, that you may know that you have eternal

life, that you may continue to believe in the

name of the Son of God. Testimony of Jesus Christ.

In Romans 8, 9 to 11, this life is in God's Son.

And this life is imparted to us, and of course

the Spirit of the Son of God dwells us, in Romans

8, 11. And this life is assured to us by believing

in Jesus Christ's redemptive work on our behalf

on the Cross of Golgotha through the interweaving

Holy Spirit. Of course, but if the Spirit of

Him who has strived from the dead dwells in you...

I tell you something, I can quote this verse

every day, except now. Romans 8 -11. The spirit

of Him who raised Christ from the dead dwells

in you. He who raised Christ from the dead will

also give life to your mortal body through His

Spirit who dwells in you. So, the Spirit is empowered

to us and this is eternal life. Psalm 10, 26

to 28. See the teaching in the temple at the

feast of dedication, speaking to the Jewish leaders.

But you do not believe because you are not of

my sheep. My sheep hear my voice, I know them,

and they believe, they follow me, and I give

them eternal life, and they shall never, never

perish. And of course, Pastor Peter emphasized

that by saying, never under any circumstance

perish. with a shell anyone's nest them out of

my hand. Eternal security is in Jesus Christ

and of course the Spirit assures our spirit that

we are in God's hand. And I put on who is making

the statement and who is backing up this assurance.

And here we have the testimony of course in Philippians.

The highly exalted Son of God is above every

name. Let me read this verse here. Philippians

2 .9. Those are all familiar verses, but they

are really important verses to understand this

topic. Therefore, God also has highly exalted

Him, giving Him a name which is above every name.

In verse 10, in the name of Jesus, every knee

shall bow of those in heaven, that's the angelic

beings, and those on earth, that's the human

beings. And those under the earth are the beings,

the spirit beings of the underworld. And every

tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,

the glory of God, the Father." Philippians 2,

9, 10, and 11, the exalted Son of God, whose

name is above every name. And this is the one

who makes the claim, makes the claim that in

Him is salvation. As I read earlier, John 14,

6, there is no other way. Back to Jesus Christ.

In Galatians 1, 13 -16. Again, let me read these

verses. They are very, very important, powerful

verses. He has delivered us from the power of

darkness and translated us or placed us into

the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we

have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness

of sins. He is the image of the miserable God.

In other words, He is what God is. interesting

because he got a spirit. And Jesus Christ, through

the Incarnation, received a body. And now when

we see Jesus, we see God. And we can see Him.

Of course, someday we will see Him. And so we

can see God. We saw a resurrected body. And that

was Galatians 1, 13 -16. Let me read verse 15

then. He, the son of God, he is the image of

the invisible God, as I've read that. Because

the Incarnation has a body, we shall someday

see him. And Job, Job 19, 25, 27 is beautiful.

Job burst forth with one of the most sublime

expressions of faith ever uttered. Job is a beautiful

book. And you know, it's the oldest book in the

Bible. And when you think of this man, not having

any scriptures. yet his walk was with God. He

said, I shall see God whom I shall see for myself,

and my eyes shall behold him, and not another,

how many, how my heart yearns within me to see

him. It is a tremendous expression of love and

affection for his God. Job 19, 25, 27. And Hebrews

1, 1 to 3 again, and that is under the heading

of Who is speaking here? Who is testifying? And

who is giving these promises? Not the Jesus of

the Mormon Church, not the Jesus of the Chorus

Witnesses, not the Jesus of the Muslims, but

the Jesus of the Bible. Hebrews 1, 1 -3. God

has spoken in time past by the prophets, but

He has now spoken in these last days through

His Son. And in verse 3, Hebrews 1 -3. who being

the brightness of his glory and the expressed

image of his person. In other words, to see Jesus,

you see God. He's the only one of the Godhead

who has a body. In Galatians 1 .16 .17, I was

thinking, I've got to finish this. For by Him

all things were created that are in heaven, in

earth, and under the earth, the thrones, the

millions, principles of powers, all things were

created by Him and for Him, to exalt Him, to

glorify Him. Jesus Christ, we're talking about

here now, and He is before all things, and in

Him all things consist. He holds all things in

His hand, so to speak. even those people who

blaspheme him. And what Jesus will do for those

who believe. Now we have different testimonies

here and of course it's the testimony of Paul,

Paul's testimony. Philippians 3, 8 to 11 and

8. I count all things lost for the excellence

of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord. and

be found in Him... Now, everything this world

has to offer is as nothing to know Jesus Christ,

and be found in Him or possess Him, being clothed

in His righteousness, received from God by faith,

and that I may know Him and experience the power

of His resurrection and the fellowship of His

suffering, being conformed to His death. That

means having denied myself will, having taken

up my cross daily, and I'm following him, Luke

9 .23. That is what Paul says, being conformed

to his death. He had put aside all his own self

-will, took his cross upon himself, and went

the path the Father has had for him. The same

thing that we have to adopt to our own, for own

life, philosophy. And verse 11 is, if by any

means I may attain to the resurrection from the

dead, by any means of course would be by the

rapture of the church to see him, 1st Thessalonians

4, 13 -18, or by the common death of every person.

In other words, like Paul says in 2nd Corinthians

5, 8, absent from the body, present with Jesus.

There's no soul sleep. There's no sleeping under

the willow tree. Things like that, you know,

some of them old gospel songs talk about that

a lot, you know, they say, and Bessie is sleeping

on Easter willow tree until Jesus comes and so

forth, but there's no sleeping there. Jesus said,

Paul says, we're absent from the body, not whether

our soul and spirit have left the body, we'll

be present with Jesus. It is very, very encouraging.

2 Timothy 4, 8, and of course Paul... Thank you,

David, thank you. Paul in prison, now this is

the testimony of Paul, and I want you to see

some of these saints. This is 2 Timothy 4, 8.

4, 6 to 8, really. It is all these saints, like

Job and like Paul. Paul in prison in Rome, and

Timothy is pasturing the church in Ephesus. He

says, finally... fall right from the prison.

There's laid up for me the God of righteousness,

which the Lord the righteous judge will give

me on that day, and not to me only, but to all

those who love His appearing. Question then is,

do you and I believe in Jesus so much as to eagerly

long to see Him anticipate His appearance? And

in Hebrews 9 .28 along the same thought here,

to all who are eagerly waiting for Him. And in

Titus 2, 11 to 13, to all who are looking for

this blessed hope. Those are, if you write it

down as 2 Timothy 4, 6 to 8, and Hebrews 9, 28,

and Titus 2, 13, 11 to 13. All this talking about

anticipating to see Jesus. And finally, brethren,

and I have gone very fast through these verses.

Titus 2, 11 to 13. Titus 2, 11 to 13, yeah. To

all the looking for this blessed hope. 1st John

5, and let me go ahead and turn to 1st John.

Finally, brethren, and I do mean that this is

my conclusive thought in this matter. Anyway,

it is 1 John 5, and of course those are very

precious verses in here, and let me pick up here

on verse 11, or verse 10. We don't want, it says

here, making God a liar. He who believes, verses

verse 10, 5. 1 John 5, 10. He who believes in

the Son of God has the witness in himself. That

is the spirit which testifies to your spirit

that you are a child of God. He who does not

believe God has made God a liar. And of course

that is very important to understand. And this

is one thing when you get together with people

of different persuasions and start quoting opinions

and so forth and so on. Let us all be and just...

go back again and stick with God what God has

to say because he has not believed in the testimony

that God has given of his son and this is the

testimony that God has given us eternal life

and his life is in the son. He who has the son

or possesses the son to whom the Holy Spirit

witnesses to his own spirit that they are a child

of God has life. And this life is called His

eternal life that God gives. Who does not have

the Son of God does not have life. Very, very

simple. You have the Son, possess the Son, you're

covered by His righteousness, you have life.

You don't have the Son, you don't possess the

Son, there is no life apart from Jesus Christ.

These things have been written to you with the

Apostle John, who believe in the name of the

Son of God that you may know or have confidence

in. That you have eternal life and you can know

that you know people say ah you cannot know you

have to wait till the time comes and Roman Catholic

Church, you know, they say well, you know You

have to see if you're gonna how long you got

how long you're gonna stay in purgatory What

a terrible thing to do, you know, there is there's

absolutely no I had it this morning we talked

to Sunday school about that the children brought

us this topic up and that Jesus died only once.

We talked about the Old Testament when Moses

struck the rock and I was encouraged that children

in my class for the most part remembered this

and remembered why. The pitch of the Old Testament

referring to Jesus Christ being smitten only

once on Golgotha. I said this is why the Roman

Catholic Church is so wrong because when the

breeze holds up the waver at the highlight of

the mass, the mass kind of... culminates at the

place toward the end, when the priest holds up

in front of the high altar this waver, in Germany

we call it a hostilia, and drinks the wine. In

this very moment, according to the Roman Catholic

Church, the waver and the wine again turn into

the body and blood of Christ. A terrible blasphemous

statement to make, because Jesus only died once.

what we talked about in Sunday School. These

things I've written to you, John says, who believe

in the name of the Son of God, that you may know

the eternal life, that you may continue to believe

in the name of the Son of God. And then let me

go down to verse 18 to close my thoughts this

evening. 18 through 20, and of course 21. We

know that whoever is born of God does not sin

but he who has been born of God keeps himself

and the wicked one does not touch him. Of course

we have the spirit within us and greater is he

within us than he who is in the world. We know

that we are of God and the whole world lies under

the sway of the wicked one. We can see it day

by day in the news. It's terrible. News is terrible.

despite us turning on the news, and it's always

bad news. Anyway, unless it's bad news, it's

no news at all. And verse 20, and we know that

the Son of God has come, has given us an understanding

through His Word, through His Word. And of course,

the spirit and structures. In John 16, Jesus

said, when He, the Spirit of Truth, has come,

He will guide you into all truth. And so we take

the Bible and stay with the Bible. and learn

and grow in the knowledge of God through His

Word. We know Him and we understand that we may

know Him who is true, and here is emphasis on

the truth. Jesus Christ said, I am the truth.

I personify truth. I am truth. Him who is true,

and we are in Him who is true, in the Son of

God, Jesus Christ, That is the true God, and

that is eternal life. Will children keep themselves

from idols? And of course, there's John managing

these Christian people there. So, the testimony

of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, in whom believing

you may have eternal life. And I ended five minutes

early. Let me say a word of prayer. If you want

some of the notes or some of the references,

again, after you see me, I'll give it to you.

Father, we enjoy. We have family here, the Blue

Ridge Bible Church family. And they have come

out tonight because they love to come out tonight.

We don't come because we are coaxed to come,

but we come because we want to come. And we desire

to hear your word and participate in the singing

of these songs, Lord, and to be enthusiastic

about it, even a little girl. and we thank you

Lord for the atmosphere which is here and this

atmosphere of righteousness which is contained

in this building when the saints come and we

pray Lord that when visitors come they will see

they will experience they will feel your spirit

here amongst us and we pray Lord that you use

us each one of us in your own particular area

of friends or school or wherever it is Lord,

to glorify yourselves and to admonish others

and to be a testimony as Pastor Peter mentioned

this morning that God did not use angels or any

other means but He used us to show forth Jesus

Christ and show forth the way of life, the way

of eternal life. And we know that the whole world

is going down. This broad way, as Jesus said

in Matthew 11, the broad way leads to destruction.

And future be the find the way to eternal life

through this narrow gate, which is Jesus Christ,

which is the door. And Lord, we pray that this

house here, or if you'll be gracious, that allows

us to build a house, a bigger building, will

always stand here on Hall Gap Road as a testimony

of your work. and be faithful to your word, Lord,

and be a stalwart fortress to guide against any

false teachings, Lord, and to be used of you,

Lord, to proclaim the testimony of Jesus Christ

to all those people around us and into the world,

through the missionaries, Lord. Thank you for

allowing us to have missionaries and support

for missionaries, Lord. Thank you again for being

a loving God and thank you for the spirit within

us and amongst us and for the unity of the body

Lord here at Bluewich Bible Church. And we approach

this on Father in the name of the Lord Jesus

whom we love and seek to serve. Amen.