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Rediscovering the Gospel - Part 8

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  1. Welcome back everyone. Part 2.

  2. So we're going to be hearing from Bill now.

  3. And if you're new to Hope, my name is Chris, I'm one of the

  4. pastors. This is Bill and we're going to

  5. be Bill's going to be speaking as part of a trilogy.

  6. This is Part 2 of his trilogy on the crucifixion as we're getting

  7. coming towards Easter. And the way this works is he'll

  8. speak for about 40 minutes or so, and then from a will it be

  9. less, might be less. OK, well, you'll take 40 minutes

  10. and then we'll have some time at the end to pray.

  11. And we, and that's an opportunity really to respond to

  12. what Bill's been saying. If there's something that's been

  13. stirring in you or if there's something else in your life that

  14. you'd like some prayer for. And we kind of suggest that in

  15. three ways you can just, if you'd like to just process on

  16. your own, you and God do that. If you'd like to pray with

  17. someone around you, do that or if you want to come to the front

  18. and we can find someone to pray with you.

  19. But we just want to make sure that we, you know, after every

  20. Sunday, we've got a space, space to pray.

  21. And so that's how we'll, and then we're sort of finished by

  22. 12:10. That's our sort of timings.

  23. So great to be together, great to be worshipping Jesus

  24. together. And if you've missed Bill's last

  25. talk, you can catch up with it on on our website.

  26. It's a link to all of our previous talks and they're on

  27. Spotify and Apple Podcasts and all that sort of thing as well.

  28. So you can catch up with it there if you'd like to.

  29. Let's pray and then I'm going to hand over to Bill.

  30. Lord, thank you for this opportunity to get together as

  31. part of your church. And as Alice was reminding us of

  32. the church in Iran in the first half, we, we're aware that we're

  33. part of this global body of Christ that has been set aside

  34. this day, Sunday, each day of the week, particularly to

  35. worship you. And so we're taking the baton on

  36. from, I don't know, maybe the French and Spanish and Italians

  37. and others a bit to the east of us.

  38. And, and then soon will be the American church will be waking

  39. up and, and, and rising to worship you.

  40. And we're part of this body of Christ through history as well.

  41. And we're grateful for those who've gone before us and who's

  42. who have, who have discovered some of who you are.

  43. And we get to stand on the shoulders of those people and

  44. benefit from the things that they've learned and discovered.

  45. And it's our prayer as well that that that the generations to

  46. come will be able to grow further from our learning and

  47. our maturing as well. We will help us to be good

  48. stewards of, of, of truth of the good news of Jesus.

  49. We're aware that that we're small and insignificant in many

  50. ways, but we're also hugely significant.

  51. And that you do Jesus said that you you talked about yeast

  52. working through dough. You talked about salt giving

  53. flavour. And that's how you describe us.

  54. And so we want, it's important that we know and understand and

  55. live in light of the truth of who you are and who we are.

  56. So we pray that these words that Bill speaks to us this morning,

  57. they feed us and equip us to see the world as you intended, as

  58. you designed it, help us to thrive so that we can bring your

  59. life and goodness to those around us.

  60. Amen. Thanks, Chris.

  61. Hello, everyone. I was talking to someone last

  62. Sunday and they said, are you still doing that series on

  63. rediscovering the Gospel? Yeah, I know it, it is going on

  64. and on, isn't it? Oh, well, thank you very much.

  65. Thank you. But she also said, and I, I'm

  66. not going to name names, but she also said, have you actually

  67. told us yet what the gospel is? And so I, I think I'm going to

  68. begin by taking stock, OK, just by clarifying where we are.

  69. Actually, I have in earlier in the series, I did explain what

  70. the gospel is, but it was kind of blink and you miss it because

  71. it's, it's actually really straightforward and it's quite

  72. brief. The gospel.

  73. And when I say this, I mean in, in biblical terms, as far as the

  74. Bible is concerned, the gospel is the news of the life, death

  75. and resurrection of Jesus, of Jesus Christ.

  76. That is what the Bible means by the gospel.

  77. It's the good news of Jesus, his life, death and resurrection.

  78. Now I know that comes as a shock because by and large today when

  79. people use that word, the gospel, what they mean is the

  80. Christian sales pitch. You know, how do you get saved?

  81. These four steps. This is the sharing the gospel

  82. means giving people the sales pitch.

  83. And that's fine. We we can use that word in that

  84. way. But the gospel, as far as Paul,

  85. for example, is concerned, is simply the life death is the

  86. news of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.

  87. That's why we call those four books the Gospels, because

  88. that's what they are. They tell us the story, the

  89. story, which is the news of the life, death and resurrection of

  90. Jesus. When Paul summarises the gospel,

  91. which he does in a number of places, and he does it in one or

  92. two verses, and it's simply that the Messiah has died and God has

  93. raised him from the dead. That's that is Paul's gospel.

  94. That's the news. Now we're looking at Romans and

  95. he doesn't really explain that. He alludes to it a bit at the

  96. front in in chapter 1. Now, why doesn't he explain what

  97. the gospel is when he's writing a letter?

  98. Because he's writing to Christians.

  99. This is a letter to a church, the church in Rome.

  100. So as far as, as far as Paul and the church in Rome is concerned,

  101. it's taken for granted. They know what the gospel is.

  102. You know, that's tacit knowledge.

  103. He doesn't need to explain to them what the gospel is.

  104. It's the reason they're Christians.

  105. They know the story. What Paul does in Romans is he

  106. explains the meaning of the gospel because it's clear from

  107. what the church in Rome is like that they haven't really thought

  108. through the consequences of the gospel.

  109. They haven't thought through how the life, death, and

  110. resurrection of Jesus effects them.

  111. They don't understand it. They don't understand how it

  112. works. They don't understand why it

  113. matters, why it's important. They don't understand what it

  114. changes, what it affects, and they don't understand how it

  115. applies to them. And So what we're looking at

  116. now, so we're looking at the crucifixion and resurrection and

  117. what I think is the heart of Romans, this letter, which is

    Isaiah 5 chapter mention

  118. chapters 5 to 8, the second quarter of this letter.

  119. In the heart of the letter, chapters 5 to 8, Paul explains

  120. what does the life, death and resurrection of Jesus mean?

  121. How does it work? How does it save us?

  122. How does it affect us? Why does it matter?

  123. Why is it important? And in these 4 chapters, he kind

  124. of says the same thing three different times, but in very

  125. different ways and from different perspectives.

  126. And that's what we're looking at now.

  127. We're going to, we're going to switch our focus to chapters 567

  128. and 8, the heart of the Gospel. What does the, the resurrection,

  129. what, what does the crucifixion and the resurrection of Jesus

  130. mean? Now?

  131. He's already kind of explained it a bit in chapter 3, but using

  132. metaphors, and we looked at this earlier in the series.

  133. He used a range of different metaphors to explain how the

  134. crucifixion and the resurrection work.

  135. And he talks about sacrifice, and he talks about law courts

  136. and punishment and judgement. He talks about redemption, which

  137. is setting slaves free. Now these are all metaphors, but

  138. it kind of raises the question, OK, well, Paul, if these are

  139. your metaphors, can you speak directly?

  140. You know, how can you explain it without using metaphors?

  141. How does the crucifixion work? How does the resurrection work?

  142. What does it mean? Can you unpack it for us?

  143. And that's what it what he does. And that's what I'm going to

  144. start looking at today. And we're going to start in

  145. chapter 5. Here's how it starts.

  146. Now there's a health warning here.

  147. Chapters 5 to 8 of Romans are just about the most dense bits

  148. of the Bible. It's there's an awful lot going

  149. on. It's hard to understand, but my

  150. aim this morning is to look at this passage, chapter 5, verse

  151. 12 and then 15 to 19 and just kind of unpack what's going on.

  152. But I warn you, it's not easy. There's something else.

  153. He he refers to one man a lot. Now what he's, what he's talking

  154. about. He's thinking about Genesis one

  155. to three. The one man that he has in mind,

  156. I don't think he names him in this passage is Adam.

  157. And what he's doing in this passage is he's comparing Adam

  158. and Christ. OK, Adam and Christ, that's

  159. that's his mental pattern, his mental model of what's going on.

  160. OK, you ready? Brace yourselves.

  161. We'll have a read. Therefore, just as sin entered

  162. the world through one man and death through sin.

  163. And in this way, death came to all people because all sinned.

  164. And then he doesn't finish his thought.

  165. He kind of starts a sentence and then gets sidetracked.

  166. So I've cut out the next couple of verses.

  167. But then he he returns to his main train of thought.

  168. But the gift is not like the trespass.

  169. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how

  170. much more did God's grace and the gift that came by the grace

  171. of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many?

  172. Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one

  173. man's sin. The judgement followed one sin

  174. and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many

  175. trespasses and brought justification.

  176. For if by the trespass of the one man death reigned through

  177. that one man, how much more will those who receive God's abundant

  178. provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in

  179. life through the one man, Jesus Christ?

  180. Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in

  181. condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted

  182. in justification and life for all people.

  183. For just as through the disobedience of the one man the

  184. many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one

  185. man, the many will be made righteous.

  186. Do you get it? There's two patterns here.

  187. There's Adam and there's Christ, and he's kind of saying the same

  188. thing again and again. He's hammering it home.

  189. There are these two ways of being human, but they're very,

  190. very different. And it's a kind of either or

  191. situation. And what he's going to unfold in

  192. the rest of 567 and 8 is how you become in Christ.

  193. There is a choice that we all have to make.

  194. You know, there are some Bible passages which you love and you

  195. return to and you feast on and you drink deeply and you read

  196. them again and again and again. And there are others which you

  197. kind of avoid. Now, for me, this is 1.

  198. Can you guess out of those two categories of Bible passage,

  199. where do you think? Naturally I would put this

  200. passage? It's not in the first camp.

  201. Why? Because it's hard.

  202. It's difficult to work out what's going on.

  203. It's hard work. But secondly, I have a real

  204. issue with Adam and with the the way that Paul or, or I, I had a

  205. real issue with the way that Paul seems to understand Genesis

  206. one to three, because he seems to read it historically.

  207. He seems to think there was this real one man long, long time ago

  208. who made one bad choice and as a result, everything's gone wrong.

  209. And why? Why don't I like that?

  210. And what kind of why do I see it that way?

  211. Well, because we know that in the old days people were stupid,

  212. whereas now we're smart. Isn't that?

  213. Isn't that true? In the old days people were

  214. stupid, but today we're smart. And so we we understand this is

  215. myth, don't we? Well, hang on a minute.

  216. First of all, we don't know what Paul thinks.

  217. He might be speaking literally. He might be reading it

  218. historically, or he might be reading it as a myth.

  219. He doesn't say. It's a mistake to assume that in

  220. those days, those people around at the same time of Paul, they

  221. all read everything literally. We know we've got plenty of

  222. examples from contemporaries of Paul, both Christian and Jewish,

  223. who are very sensitive to different genres, different

  224. literary genres and sensitive to the category of myth.

  225. For example, Philo, Oregon, Clement of Alexandria,

  226. Augustine, you know, these are all people about the same time.

  227. Oregon's fantastic. He's absolutely scathing about

  228. people who read Genesis one to three as history.

  229. He said, can't you, can't you see?

  230. Of course it's myth. So we, we mustn't assume that

  231. just because, you know, Paul lived a long time ago, he must

  232. have read it historically. But the key thing is how is he

  233. reading it here? He's reading it theologically.

  234. He's reading these two types, these two patterns, but he's

  235. thinking it through theologically.

  236. He's he's interested in life and death.

  237. He's interested in sin and righteousness.

  238. He's interested in judgement and grace.

  239. Those are his categories. We don't know how he's reading

  240. it. And what I find fascinating is

  241. if we read Genesis 1 to 3 the same way, kind of through Paul's

  242. lens theologically, and then we think about the gospel, which is

  243. the life, the death and the resurrection of Jesus, and we

  244. look at those events through the same theological lens, then what

  245. do we see? What do we notice?

  246. And that's what we're going to do now, if that's all right.

  247. That's this morning's plan. So here we are, Genesis 1, God

  248. and Adam, Adam with God. Now, what happens in Genesis 2?

  249. Basically, God gives Adam a choice.

  250. What God does is he creates for Adam the opportunity to exercise

  251. free will. He gives him a choice.

  252. I mean, there's a lot going on with the the tree of the

  253. knowledge of good and evil. But in some ways it's really

  254. simple. You know, he could have drawn a

  255. circle on the floor and said, don't stand in that circle.

  256. You know, there's one command and he gives Adam a choice.

  257. Is it yes God or no God? Do I agree or do I not agree?

  258. And God makes it crystal clear that there are consequences

  259. riding on this choice. If you do this, you will die.

  260. Absolutely. Big consequences.

  261. And so fundamentally, the question that Adam has, the

  262. choice he's got to make is, will you acknowledge me as God?

  263. God says to him, Will you let me be God in your life?

  264. Will you depend on me? Will you trust me?

  265. Will you trust my judgement? Will you let me be your God?

  266. Or do you want that role? Do you trust your own judgement?

  267. Are you going to depend on yourself?

  268. Are you going to turn away from me and not allow me to be your

  269. God? And we know what happens.

  270. Adam makes a bad choice. And the consequences that Adam

  271. had been warned about, they occur. 2 main consequences.

  272. First of all, separation. All of a sudden we have these

  273. two categories. We have heaven, the place where

  274. God is, and the world, the place where human is, and they're no

  275. longer the same place. There's a separation, there's a

  276. barrier between the two, and then there are ultimate

  277. consequences. On the left hand side of the

  278. line, these are the people who are living and heading towards

  279. life. On the right hand side is the

  280. people who are dying and heading towards death.

  281. Death reigns. As Paul says in Romans chapter

    Romans 5 chapter mention

  282. 5, Adam makes a bad choice and in a way this thread runs

  283. through the whole of the Old Testament.

  284. If we think about Israel, Israel takes the place of Adam and

  285. running all the way through the story of Israel is this attempt

  286. of humans to get close to God. And what they find again and

  287. again and again is it's mighty hard.

  288. I love this. I mean love it.

  289. I love the story of Mount Sinai in Exodus and God comes down on

  290. the mountain. But the warning is don't touch

  291. the mountain. You'll get zapped.

  292. You know, you can come close, but not too close.

  293. You can approach the mountain, but don't touch it.

  294. Only one person. One human is allowed to go up

  295. the mountain and get extra close to God.

  296. Same picture in the temple, no? Yes, the presence of God is in

  297. the Holy of Holies. But who's allowed to enter the

  298. Holy of Holies and how often and at great risk, you know, the

  299. chief priest. And so we we get this picture

  300. that there's this separation. It's really hard to get close to

  301. God. It's hard to approach him.

  302. It's possible, but it's really, really difficult.

  303. And so by the end of the end of the Old Testament, Israel has

  304. become Israel stands for all of humanity.

  305. And the question is, how are we going to bridge that gap?

  306. How is it possible for humans to get close to God?

  307. That's the question we're asking.

  308. How can we be with him? How can we get near to him?

  309. Are you ready for the gospel? Remember, the gospel is the

  310. events of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.

  311. It's the four gospels. How did the Gospel start,

  312. particularly Matthew and Luke, The Nativity.

  313. Here's the nativity. The question everyone is asking

  314. at the end of the Old Testament is how can we humans get close

  315. to God? How can we approach him?

  316. How can we overcome that barrier?

  317. Well, here's a surprise. He comes to us, God with us.

  318. Emmanuel, we've been trying to make the journey, but he

  319. approaches us. He comes and joins us.

  320. And he's not just with us. He's chosen to become like us.

  321. He's become human in order to be with us.

  322. He's taken on humanity and more than that, he takes on our

  323. identity. He identifies with us and stands

  324. with us. Do you remember the story of the

  325. baptism, especially in Matthew? Jesus lines up, he cues up to be

  326. baptised by John, John the Baptist.

  327. Now what's going on in this baptism?

  328. Well, people are the sinners, People who want to change, who

  329. recognise their need to change and repent as a way of saying I

  330. want to turn to you God. They come to John in the

  331. wilderness and they're baptised and John sees Jesus there and he

  332. says this is wrong, You know, you should be baptising me

  333. because relative to you I'm the Sinner here.

  334. But Jesus insists, he says no, no, so that all righteousness

  335. can be fulfilled. No, I need to be baptised.

  336. Why? Because he's standing with us.

  337. He's taking on the human identity.

  338. It reverses the Old Testament picture.

  339. And so we come to Easter. OK, think about Gethsemane.

  340. Think about Gethsemane in Genesis one to three.

  341. We had a man in a garden, and this man is given a choice, and

  342. it's an easy choice. The consequences of saying yes,

  343. Lord, are only good. The consequences of saying no, I

  344. don't want you to be my God, are only bad.

  345. And what does he say? No God, no God, not my God.

  346. In Gethsemane we have a man in the garden who's confronted with

  347. a choice, and it's an agonising choice.

  348. The consequences of saying yes, Lord, are horrifying.

  349. And what does he say? He says I acknowledge you as

  350. God, I choose you as my God, I submit.

  351. And so we come to Good Friday, the crucifixion.

  352. I think the crucifixion is far more astonishing and far more

  353. miraculous than the resurrection, because bringing

  354. things to life, creating life, giving life, well, that's what

  355. God does. That's the business he's in.

  356. But the idea that God should die, well, that's not what God

  357. does. That's extraordinary.

  358. Remind me, what is the penalty? The the price you pay, the

  359. consequences, the fruit, the wages, the punishment, the

  360. outcome of sin. The outcome of sin is death.

  361. Did Jesus sin? No, Jesus is faithful and

  362. obedient and yet the consequence of Jesus faithfulness and

  363. obedience is death. It's all wrong.

  364. It's back to front, it's upside down.

  365. That is far more shocking than Easter Sunday.

  366. But then we come to Easter Sunday.

  367. New life. In Romans 5, what Paul presents

  368. us is two ways of being human. There's the Adam pattern, and

  369. there's the God, and there's the Christ pattern.

  370. There are two ways to be human. I mean, the way Paul puts it is

  371. you can be in Adam or you can be in Christ.

  372. You can follow the Adam pattern or you can follow the Christ

  373. pattern. The Adam pattern is unfaithful,

  374. turning away from God and dying. The Christ pattern is faithful,

  375. trusting God, depending on him and heading for life, living and

  376. heading for life. And for Paul, this is the

  377. meaning of the gospel. This is the meaning of the

  378. crucifixion and the resurrection.

  379. We can choose, we have a choice to be a different kind of human.

  380. And he summarises this different kind of human in a very simple

  381. phrase, which is in Christ. And he'll spend the next 3 1/2

  382. chapters unpacking what it means to be in Christ, how you can

  383. become in Christ, what it looks like, and particularly how's it

  384. going to work? Because humanity's track record

  385. has been pretty bad. So why should we be confident

  386. that this time it's actually going to work?

  387. So there are loads of questions, loads of questions about this,

  388. this pattern, this idea. And Paul is going to unpack them

  389. over the next few chapters. And we're going to look at them

  390. over the next few talks in this everlasting series.

  391. But for now, I want to make 2 observations.

  392. First one is this I mentioned before.

  393. Paul uses all sorts of metaphors to explain the gospel, and in

  394. particular to explain the crucifixion and the

  395. resurrection. And The thing is, in our day, in

  396. evangelical circles, one of those metaphors has become

  397. central, become quite dominant, the metaphor of kind of the law

  398. court, picture God as judge, judgement and punishment.

  399. This metaphor has become central and kind of elbowed the others

  400. out, I would suggest. But also, it's read literally.

  401. It's often read literally. If if you ask some people to

  402. summarise the gospel, they'll, they'll say something like God

  403. punishes Jesus so that we can escape punishment.

  404. That is the summary of of the gospel.

  405. And many people object to that, and they object, I think

  406. rightly, because it makes God into this cruel master, this

  407. cruel judge, this cruel monster. And today's big argument in

  408. Christian circles is often around that question.

  409. It's one reason why I'm doing this series is to try and, you

  410. know, contribute, not contribute to the argument, but bring some

  411. understanding, you know, who's right and who's wrong in this

  412. argument. Penal substitution view of

  413. atonement or not, Which side do you land on, Bill?

  414. Well, here's my question. If if the gospel is the news of

  415. the life, death and resurrection of Jesus, the historical news of

  416. real life events that happened 2000 years ago, then who killed

  417. Jesus? I'll tell you it was Roman

  418. soldiers on the orders of the Roman political leader,

  419. encouraged by the Jewish religious leaders and under

  420. pressure from the mob. I mean, that's what we read in

  421. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Those are the historical event.

  422. That's how Jesus ended up dead. In historical terms, it was

  423. military power, human military power, human political power,

  424. human religious power and people power.

  425. Who killed Jesus? We did, We did.

  426. How appalling to suggest that it was the Father.

  427. But if the penalty for sin is death, and He did not sin but

  428. died, if He died as a consequence of His choice to be

  429. with us and to become become like us, to stand with us, is

  430. there a way in which He took our punishment?

  431. Well, yes there is. He came and stood with us, and

  432. so along with us He took that punishment.

  433. And if as a result of his life and death, we end up living even

  434. though we deserve to die, is there a way in which is it like

  435. his punishment sets us free? Well, yes, it is.

  436. So the metaphor has value. It says something important.

  437. It provides A valuable insight. Paul chooses his metaphors for a

  438. good reason. They're saying something

  439. important. But we need to be really, really

  440. careful about how we use them. In particular, we need to

  441. clarify that they are metaphors. We mustn't read them in a

  442. wooden, kind of simplistic way. What I find striking about the

  443. argument, the argument which seems to be raging in Christian

  444. circles, is that both sides read these passages in the same way.

  445. They read a metaphor literally. And one side says, well this if

  446. this is what the Bible says, then we need to believe it even

  447. though it makes God into a monster.

  448. And the other, the other side says, if this is what Paul is

  449. saying, then we need to set it aside.

  450. We need to dismiss it because it turns God into a monster.

  451. Neither side, I would suggest is reading it very well.

  452. There was another reason I didn't like the passage, which

  453. is it seems so unfair because Paul seems to be suggesting that

  454. I'm condemned to the right hand side of the picture because of a

  455. choice Adam made. Now how is that fair?

  456. Adam, whoever he was, if he existed, made this choice a

  457. long, long time ago and as a result I end up on the right

  458. side of the picture. I'm being punished for his

  459. choice. And what I notice is that Paul's

  460. explanation of the gospel, his explanation of Jesus death and

  461. resurrection, what that does is it puts us in Adam's place.

  462. We get to make the same choice for ourselves.

  463. Each of us is in the garden facing the same choice.

  464. We're asked, what do you want? Adam in the garden is face to

  465. face with God. And God says, do you acknowledge

  466. that I'm God? Do you trust and depend on me?

  467. Do you want to be with me? Do you want to be like me?

  468. Will you call me Lord? Do you want to live and I'm face

  469. to face with Jesus and he asked me, Do you acknowledge that I'm

  470. God? Will you trust and depend on me?

  471. Do you want to be with me? Do you want to be like me?

  472. Will you call me Lord? Do you want to live?

  473. We're in exactly the same situation.

  474. OK, so it may be unfair that I'm on the right hand side because

  475. of Adam's choice. But now I'm in the in.

  476. I'm facing the same choice. It's up to me.

  477. I can't blame Adam anymore. You know Adam isn't a name.

  478. I mean, I know it is. There are people called Adam,

  479. but Adam is the Hebrew for human.

  480. We're all Adam, and we're all facing Adam's choice.

  481. What do you want? Let's pray Bill described those

  482. two gardens just as as Duncan continues to play, let's just

  483. take our minds back to those, to those two gardens.

  484. There's the Garden of Eden where Adam was describing that

  485. proximity of God and humanity, that intimacy, that closeness.

  486. And then Bill describes Gethsemane, the garden outside

  487. Jerusalem where Jesus was before he was arrested and then taken

  488. to be tried and crucified. And he was in that garden and in

  489. that place he was praying and he'd asked his disciples to go

  490. and pray with him. And he, we read that it is a

  491. real time of anguish for him. It says that as he was praying,

  492. he was sweating blood, such was the extensively pain he was he

  493. was feeling in terms of knowing what he was going to experience.

  494. And then the other image that that Bill described was was the

  495. was the incarnation. You know, those circles that

  496. Bill had, Bill had on the screen where you see God and man,

  497. humanity separate sides of a dividing line.

  498. And how does humanity breach that to get to God?

  499. And, and the surprise is that God is born into into humanity.

  500. And Bill describes Jesus lining up on the river Jordan banks

  501. together with others where John the Baptist was baptising

  502. people. And Jesus patiently with others,

  503. sort of took his place in the queue and humbly went into the

  504. water baptised by John. So Lord, be grateful that

  505. you've, you've walked these paths, grateful that you've

  506. experienced that suffering on our behalf in Gethsemane,

  507. grateful that you've taken that walk to baptism in the Jordan,

  508. grateful that you've come to live amongst us.

  509. And then the, the, the, the question that Bill put to us

  510. was, will we choose to choose the way of the way of Jesus or

  511. the way of Adam? So I think it'd be good for us

  512. to, to respond to that as well with we've done it 100 times

  513. before, or this is the first time to do it.

  514. If you'd like to to to to pray that prayer and.

  515. And and again, just acknowledge our need for Jesus and the life

  516. that comes in and through knowing and following and living

  517. in Jesus. I'm going to pray that now,

  518. Lord, I recognise that in myself is a is a is a leaning and a

  519. temptation to do things in my own strength and in my own

  520. independence. And it manifests in all sorts of

  521. ways in my life. But I've discovered and realised

  522. that life comes through you, Jesus.

  523. And again today I, I want to acknowledge that you are my Lord

  524. and I, I submit to you and I want to follow you and I give my

  525. life to you. Thank you.

  526. Amen.