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SPEAKING IN TOUNGES | SUNDAY 7TH JUNE | PS AARON MORE

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  1. Good morning.

  2. >> Hey, before we uh get into the message,

  3. uh I just had an announcement to make

  4. and that is that we are proposing to

  5. bring a new elder um into the eldership

  6. team at Tonga Elim and that is Eley. So,

  7. uh that is

  8. that is exciting, but don't clap too

  9. fast because part of our policy is that

  10. um we actually inform the church and the

  11. church has um up to 14 days to come and

  12. see uh me or one of the elders if there

  13. is any reason why you think um Eley uh

  14. would not be suitable for that role. Um

  15. but he's been a key part of the uh

  16. church for over 12 years and so we're

  17. really excited to invite that. So, but

  18. there is it is important to us. We do

  19. have those protocols in place, but

  20. that's around uh a genuine reason not he

  21. cut you off in traffic one time, you

  22. know. So, uh um but so we're really

  23. excited about that and uh we believe

  24. when he's back from Fiji, uh we will

  25. pray him into that position. So, that's

  26. uh really exciting, isn't it?

  27. Uh

  28. I uh a number of years ago I went on

  29. sbatical and as part of my sbatical I

  30. went to a an event called school of the

  31. prophets and uh when you go to an event

  32. called school of the prophets there are

  33. a lot of very spiritual people there. Uh

  34. there's there's lots of things that go

  35. on and there's lots of conversations

  36. that are had. And so what happens is I

  37. turn up to this thing. I'm traveling by

  38. myself. Uh, and what they do is they

  39. it's a school where they want you to not

  40. only learn about prophecy, but get to

  41. activate it. So, they're like, "Hey,

  42. we'll put you in community groups." So,

  43. you'll have a group of about 40 or 50

  44. that are in your group, and you sit

  45. together during the conference, and

  46. during the mornings, we go and have

  47. activation times. And so, I'm like,

  48. "Okay, that's cool." And so, I'm

  49. traveling by myself. So, I end up um

  50. sitting next to four ladies on the first

  51. session. And I'm kind of like, they're

  52. quite friendly, nice. Get to know them.

  53. That's cool. Um they're like, "Do you

  54. want to come out for lunch?" I'm like,

  55. "Sure." Um I don't have a car, so

  56. definitely. And um so, you know, we get

  57. to lunch. And I send myself a picture to

  58. Sarah of me and four ladies out for

  59. lunch. And she said, "You look like

  60. you're enjoying yourself." Um and so the

  61. next day, I'm like, "Okay, hey, I'm not

  62. going to go sit next to the ladies. I'm

  63. going to make sure I connect with a

  64. guy." So we uh it gets to the activation

  65. point. I turn to a guy and and they're

  66. like, "Hey, we're going to do this

  67. exercise where we want you to uh press

  68. in and sense something." So it was this

  69. exercise of prayer and prophecy. And so

  70. I turned to the guy and the guy's like,

  71. "We don't really need to do this, eh?"

  72. And I'm kind of like, "Well, well, I

  73. kind of flew halfway around the world

  74. cuz I kind of want to want to do it."

  75. He's like, "I think this is good for

  76. those other people." Like, okay. Okay.

  77. And he's like, but but not for the likes

  78. of me in UA. It's a bit basic for us,

  79. isn't it? And so, um, the next session I

  80. went and sat with my four ladies and

  81. hung out with them for the rest of the

  82. conference. But

  83. at one stage, um, one of them asked me a

  84. question. She said, uh, do you think

  85. you should consider seriously dating and

  86. marrying someone if they don't speak in

  87. tongues?

  88. Should

  89. you consider dating and marrying someone

  90. if they don't speak in tongues? And

  91. there's all of a sudden silence and all

  92. of the four ladies are looking at me. Uh

  93. two of them were married, two of them

  94. weren't. So, uh they they're looking at

  95. me like wondering what my answer is

  96. going to be.

  97. And I wonder even as I ask that question

  98. this morning, it might elicit a whole

  99. lot of responses, a whole lot of

  100. emotions. Uh different people will have

  101. different thoughts. Some may be

  102. wondering, "What on earth is tongues?"

  103. Like, "What are you even talking about?"

  104. And some may wonder, "Well, uh one

  105. opinion or another." And I'm sure we

  106. could go around the room and there would

  107. be a whole lot of opinions. And the

  108. interesting thing is some of them would

  109. actually be attached to deep emotion

  110. like there would be an emotional uh

  111. attachment to that. And we're doing a

  112. series on things of the spirit. And this

  113. is the third week. Paul done a great uh

  114. a great job last week, didn't he?

  115. Speaking on the Holy Spirit as a

  116. convvictor. Can we uh show our

  117. appreciation for that message? How good

  118. was that?

  119. And uh so this morning we are going to

  120. speak on uh this area of the gift of

  121. tongues. And uh some people kind of say,

  122. "Hey, I don't really know like Sunday

  123. morning. We don't normally talk about

  124. that kind of thing." And I'm kind of

  125. like, "Well, why not?" Um and people can

  126. be like, "Oh, what about um you know, if

  127. we have new people in and it might scare

  128. them off." And I'm kind of like, you do

  129. realize we believe that someone died and

  130. rose again, right? Like I'm like, you

  131. realize what we believe? Like in one

  132. sense it is totally credible, but in

  133. another sense it's like, hey, yeah,

  134. well, we're talking about worshiping a

  135. guy who rose from the dead. I don't

  136. think praying in a particular prayer

  137. language, while it is unusual to the

  138. world system, it is not something that

  139. we cannot talk about. So uh this morning

  140. I I I want to go through and at the end

  141. I'll share the purpose of why uh you

  142. know they normally say start with why

  143. but I'm going to share at the end why

  144. why we're even talking about this. So

  145. what happens is Jesus dies uh rises

  146. again he tells his disciples to go and

  147. wait because they are going to receive

  148. power uh from through the Holy Spirit.

  149. And so the he he dies, rises again, they

  150. wait and they the day of Pentecost

  151. comes. And in Acts chapter 2, it says,

    Acts 2 chapter mention

  152. "When the day of Pentecost came, they

  153. were all together in one place. Suddenly

  154. a sound like the blowing of a violent

  155. wind came from heaven and filled the

  156. whole house where they were sitting.

  157. They saw what seemed to be tongues of

  158. fire that separated and came to rest on

  159. each one of them. All of them were

  160. filled with the Holy Spirit and began to

  161. speak in other tongues as the spirit

  162. enabled them. Now they were staying in

  163. Jerusalem. Oh, sorry. Now they were

  164. staying in Jerusalem. God-fearing Jews

  165. from every nation under heaven. When

  166. they heard this sound, a crowd came

  167. together in bewilderment. Each one of

  168. their own heard their own language. And

  169. they asked, "Aren't all those who are

  170. speaking Galileans? then how come we

  171. hear them in our own language? So what

  172. we have is uh when the Holy Spirit is

  173. poured out uh these the disciples begin

  174. to and those in the upper room begin to

  175. pray in tongues but kind of the

  176. implication is in this instance they

  177. were actually knowing languages. And so

  178. what's happening is they're speaking in

  179. tonesues but people around them begin to

  180. hear it in their language and they are

  181. like oh my goodness what is going on?

  182. like uh but this isn't the only thing

  183. that the Bible says about tongues. It's

  184. the the the starting point. And so

  185. really quickly, I just want to go over

  186. what a definition of tongues and then

  187. what Paul says in one Corinthians 14

  188. because here's the thing. I think

  189. sometimes uh we think uh what we need is

  190. a theological explanation and I believe

  191. that's important. But I think often in

  192. terms of what actually holds us back is

  193. actually our experiences and what we've

  194. actually encountered and the way things

  195. have been done. And so I want to start

  196. by talking about uh yeah theologically

  197. what is this gift of tongues and then

  198. secondly actually what has this meant

  199. experientially for some of us and what

  200. are some of the things we might have

  201. experienced that may have either caused

  202. us to embrace or hold back and and and

  203. what does that look like? So uh to start

  204. off Gordon Fee gives this definition on

  205. the gift of tongues. a spirit prompted

  206. non-co cognitive prayer language where

  207. the believer speaks directly to God in

  208. sounds intelligible to humans. Okay. So,

  209. again, if you're new to this and you are

  210. like, "What on earth are they talking

  211. about?" Like, uh, we believe the Bible

  212. teaches that the Holy Spirit gives gifts

  213. to believers. And one of the gifts that

  214. he actually gives is a prayer language

  215. which enables someone to pray words that

  216. are directly between them and God. And

  217. many times they will not know what they

  218. are praying, but it is a prayer language

  219. and a connection with God.

  220. And so, uh, there are believers, uh, and

  221. Christians who who don't believe that

  222. this is, um, uh, what what's happening.

  223. And, and some people would even say,

  224. "Hey, no, you guys are just babbling or

  225. you're just, uh, uh, speaking madeup

  226. language." And so, uh, Paul gives this

  227. instruction in one Corinthians. This is

  228. what he says. Follow the way of love and

  229. eagerly desire gifts of the spirit,

  230. especially prophecy. For anyone who

  231. speaks in tongues, in a tongue does not

  232. speak to people, but to God. Indeed, no

  233. one understands them. They utter

  234. mysteries by the spirit, but the one who

  235. prophesies speaks to people for their

  236. strengthening, encouraging, and comfort.

  237. Anyone who speaks in tongues edifies

  238. themselves, but the one who prophesies

  239. edifies the church.

  240. And he goes on to say,"I would like each

  241. of you to speak in tonesues, but I would

  242. rather have you prophesy. The one who

  243. prophesies is greater than the one who

  244. speaks in tonesues, unless someone

  245. interprets it, so that the church may be

  246. edified."

  247. He then goes on a little bit later to

  248. say this, "For this reason, the one who

  249. speaks in tongues should pray that he

  250. may interpret. For if I pray in a

  251. tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is

  252. unfruitful." So what shall I do? I will

  253. pray with the spirit, but I will also

  254. pray with understanding. I will sing in

  255. the spirit, but I will all also sing

  256. with understanding. And so here's this

  257. scripture where one Corinthians 14 where

  258. Paul um outlays what this gift is. And

  259. some people would have theological

  260. objections to what Paul is saying, but I

  261. believe the the the clear reading of the

  262. scripture

  263. is he is talking about a a prayer life

  264. that no one understands but that edifies

  265. the person in their relationship with

  266. God. And uh he encourages us at the

  267. start that all of us should desire

  268. spiritual gifts. and he says, you know,

  269. I am I'm glad that I speak in tongues

  270. more than all of you. And so, while

  271. there are some theological um uh

  272. differences and people who don't agree

  273. with this, I would say uh I don't want

  274. to spend a whole lot of time talking

  275. about that because I actually believe a

  276. plain reading of scripture is actually

  277. pretty clear what the gift is and what

  278. it is for.

  279. >> So, so it it's pretty clear that there

  280. is this gift. But the bigger question is

  281. all of us come with an experience and

  282. with baggage where we have experienced

  283. certain things and what we've

  284. experienced

  285. actually uh uh can taint what what the

  286. word of God says because we've seen and

  287. been in certain environments where

  288. certain things have happened in certain

  289. ways and a and that causes us to judge

  290. certain things and think, "Wow, is this

  291. really what God was talking about. So in

  292. 1906, something happened that was called

  293. the ISUsa Street Revival in Los Angeles

  294. in ISUsa Street. Uh there was a um a

  295. black preacher called William Seymour

  296. who had one eye and they began to um

  297. have meetings and the Holy Spirit began

  298. to turn up and uh what happened was

  299. people began to speak in tongues there

  300. and there were manifestations and crazy

  301. things would happen. Seymour would

  302. actually put a box on his head. He would

  303. like he didn't want to be the focus of

  304. things. So you can imagine right now if

  305. I turn to the corner and put a box on my

  306. head like people would be like #awward.

  307. How long do we sit here while the pastor

  308. sits with a box on his head and he would

  309. sit with a box on his head and then the

  310. glory of God would come into the room

  311. and people would be being healed and the

  312. presence of God would sweep across the

  313. room while he's um sitting there with a

  314. box on his head. Maybe some people are

  315. saying that might be an improvement. I

  316. don't know. But uh

  317. and so what happens is uh the the the LA

  318. Times actually begin to report on it and

  319. they begin to report really negatively

  320. about it. And you can actually go back

  321. and see the newspaper clippings and it

  322. says babble babbling of tongues at ISUsa

  323. street the headline in the new in the

  324. newspaper. And then it goes on to

  325. explain all of these things that were

  326. going on and how um crazy they were and

  327. how this is just uh ecstasy with people

  328. clearly out of their mind. It's kind of

  329. interesting because in Acts chapter 2

    Acts 2 chapter mention

  330. when the Holy Spirit was poured out,

  331. some people actually said, "Hey, I think

  332. they might be drunk. I I think I know

  333. what's going on. They they might be

  334. drunk." Which is really random because I

  335. think you have to drink a heck of a lot

  336. to be able to speak in a language you

  337. don't know. Like

  338. I mean I don't know if you've ever been

  339. that drunk but you you probably got a

  340. few issues if you have.

  341. But the point being you see some people

  342. are like well if this is of God what it

  343. would mean is that it would just

  344. everyone would accept it and it would

  345. never be called into question because

  346. it's God. But that's actually not the

  347. way things work. So what happens is the

  348. media begin to criticize what's going on

  349. and then some other churches begin to go

  350. man we are not really sure about this

  351. and if you've never seen that before and

  352. you go into a room and there are pe

  353. there's a guy with a box on his head and

  354. people are speaking in tongues you can

  355. understand why some people would be

  356. skeptical right I know no one in this

  357. room ever would be but you know uh so

  358. you've got people going what on earth is

  359. going on. And so all of a sudden, people

  360. have to make a judgment call. Do we

  361. think this is God or don't we think it's

  362. God? And so some people are like, "Man,

  363. we believe this is God." And uh and we

  364. want this. And other people are like,

  365. "We don't believe this is God." And some

  366. people are like, "Hey, we think it's

  367. just them, they're a little bit crazy."

  368. Other people are like, "Hey, not only is

  369. it just them, I think it might actually

  370. be demonic." And so they're like, "Hey,

  371. we don't think this is God at all. this

  372. is the opposite spirit and we need to uh

  373. be free from that. So as a result what

  374. happens is now you have this uh these

  375. churches that are getting into arguments

  376. about whether speaking in tongues

  377. whether it's the Holy Spirit whether

  378. it's a man whether it's a demon right so

  379. you actually have some church splits

  380. begin to happen and even in New Zealand

  381. I know through 60s and 70s there were

  382. one of the things that split a lot of

  383. churches was do you believe that

  384. speaking in tongues is of the Holy

  385. Spirit and for today and so you would

  386. have this divide so what happens in that

  387. is some people like they lose their

  388. church because of their belief in the

  389. gift of tongues. So they get kicked out

  390. of their church. Now you can understand

  391. if you got kicked out of your church

  392. because of a spiritual gift that you

  393. believed in, one of the dangers is you

  394. might elevate that gift to an unhealthy

  395. place.

  396. Like you might be tempted to be like,

  397. "Hey, this is GOD AND ALL THOSE people

  398. who don't have this, well, they're just

  399. lesser than us." Because what's happened

  400. is they've been made to feel lesser.

  401. People have said to them, "You're just

  402. babbling. Why don't you just read the

  403. Bible? Do what other Christians do. You

  404. don't need this nonsense. That's just

  405. you." And so, they were looked down on.

  406. And tragically, what happened for some

  407. were they then began to operate in the

  408. same spirit and responded and were like,

  409. "No, no, we actually looked down on you

  410. because you don't have the gift. You're

  411. not like us. You're not spiritual.

  412. You're not following Jesus. You're just

  413. religious." And so, you have this

  414. division that begins to happen. When I

  415. was about 15, I was fairly newly saved.

  416. I uh uh the neighborhood I grew up in

  417. was actually pretty uh pretty rough. Um,

  418. and we had Lynwood Park down the road

  419. and um, you know, you always kind of had

  420. to keep your eyes open when you walk

  421. through Lynwood Park because uh, there

  422. might be a few unsavory characters.

  423. Thankfully for someone with my physique,

  424. I never felt in danger. But um I I would

  425. always walk pretty quickly through

  426. Lynwood Park, you know, whether um you

  427. know, you were going to encounter glue

  428. sniffers or drug dealers or um just any

  429. number of things you may encounter at

  430. Lynwood Park, but it was the fastest way

  431. to the mall. So I would kind of scoot

  432. through and and try and be safe. And one

  433. day uh I was going with my friend, and

  434. thankfully he was much bigger than me,

  435. so I felt really safe. and these uh two

  436. guys came up to us and you always wonder

  437. what you're going to get when two guys

  438. approach you in Lynwood Park. Normally

  439. it's the offer for some illegal

  440. substances, but in this case they were

  441. like, "Hey boys, can we talk to you?"

  442. We're like, "Sure." They're like, "Oh,

  443. do you um have you heard about Jesus?"

  444. And so I'm actually fairly newly saved.

  445. And so I'm quite excited. I'm like,

  446. "Yeah, I have." Like, and so uh they

  447. begin to share. And then um they the

  448. next question they asked me is do you

  449. speak in tonesues? And at that stage I

  450. was like uh no I don't speak in

  451. tonesues. And they're like well you know

  452. in that case we actually don't think you

  453. really do know Jesus. like um you

  454. probably need to leave the church that

  455. you're in and come to our church and

  456. someone will pray for you and when you

  457. start speaking in tongues that will be

  458. the sign that you know Jesus and um I

  459. remember being quite unsettled uh

  460. feeling that it wasn't right but we just

  461. kind of said hey guys it's you know I

  462. didn't really have the words and just

  463. sort of said we we don't really believe

  464. that and just see see you later and we

  465. left and I remember in that moment just

  466. being so confused and going, God, what

  467. what's going on with that? And and maybe

  468. that wasn't your experience, but I know

  469. at one stage there was a uh a belief

  470. because of what happened in Acts and

  471. it's still common in a lot of places,

  472. classical Pentecostal theology, is that

  473. if you receive the baptism of the

  474. spirit, you it's always evidenced by

  475. speaking in tongues. And when you read

  476. the book of Acts, many times when the

  477. spirit came, they spoke in tonesues. So

  478. we we we don't deny that speaking in

  479. tonesues is an evidence of the Holy

  480. Spirit. We just don't think it's the

  481. evidence of the Holy Spirit. Like it's

  482. it's something, but it's not everything.

  483. So it's an evidence, not the evidence.

  484. But what happened for me was a couple of

  485. years later I was pray praying and I

  486. began to just seek the gift of tongues

  487. and uh I began to get some words and

  488. pray them and uh slowly began to develop

  489. a prayer language that I believe is from

  490. the Holy Spirit that edifies me and

  491. enables me to pray. And so this was a a

  492. a a spirit language that I believe God

  493. had given me. But the church I was in

  494. was fairly conservative.

  495. So most people there didn't speak in

  496. tonesues. Wasn't the kind of church that

  497. they would kick you out if you didn't

  498. speak in tonesues. They just kind of um

  499. would prefer to sing a hymn than to

  500. speak in tonesues. And so I'm like,

  501. "Ah." I began to speak in tonesues. And

  502. if I was to be really honest with you, a

  503. little bit of what happened in my life

  504. was slowly I began to think that I was

  505. spiritually superior to some of the

  506. other people who didn't speak in

  507. tongues. So slowly I was kind of like,

  508. well, I've got this gift and uh you

  509. know, I must have been about 18 at the

  510. time and I was like, yeah, you know, I I

  511. speak in tonesues. A lot of these

  512. religious people don't speak in tonesues

  513. and that's okay. One day they can be

  514. like me. You know, you ever know people

  515. who think like that? You know, I used to

  516. be like you once, you know, a lovely uh

  517. the most patronizing thing you can ever

  518. say to someone. I used to be like you

  519. once. Um and so that was a little bit of

  520. my inner posture. And what happened was

  521. we actually had an issue in the church

  522. and with youth leaders and just some

  523. stuff went on and they're like, "Hey, we

  524. have to have a meeting." And so a group

  525. of I was a youth leader at the time. So

  526. a group of us youth leaders met with

  527. leaders from the church and we're

  528. sitting there having this meeting and

  529. it's going back and forth and there's

  530. actually some disagreement. And uh I now

  531. realize that I had all the wisdom of a

  532. donkey. Um but I thought I was wise. And

  533. so we're going back and forth and

  534. there's a just a bit of debate and

  535. argument. Uh not too heated. And then

  536. what I begin to do is just quietly I

  537. begin to speak in tongues. So I'm just

  538. like

  539. and um like I thought nothing of it and

  540. um that's cool. The meeting ends and

  541. then like a few days later um Sarah um

  542. actually says to me, "Hey um one of the

  543. people that were in that meeting thought

  544. it was really disrespectful

  545. the way you spoke in tongues.

  546. And I was like, "Whatever. I just know

  547. they're just religious." Just religious.

  548. Yeah, that I bet you they didn't like

  549. it. Holy Spirit turned up. Of course

  550. they didn't like it.

  551. Unfortunately, it wasn't the Holy

  552. Spirit. It was a spirit of stupid that

  553. turned up, right?

  554. Because actually what I was doing

  555. wasn't about inviting the Holy Spirit.

  556. It was about trying to elevate myself

  557. uh about appearing to seem spiritual

  558. about rather than being able to have a

  559. conversation with someone

  560. to actually begin to use spiritual

  561. things instead to shut down my need to

  562. love them.

  563. And I know no one here would have ever

  564. encountered someone who speaks in ch

  565. tongues but acts like a jerk.

  566. You see, it's interesting because Paul

  567. says the purpose of tongues is to edify

  568. a believer. The purpose of tongues is

  569. that you would be edified in your work

  570. walk with God. What's happened in many

  571. cases is instead of it being ed

  572. edifying, people have tried to um say

  573. that it's actually a spiritual status or

  574. it's exalting me. And so rather than

  575. edifying, they believe it's exaltation.

  576. And we need to remember the purpose of

  577. tongues is spiritual strengthening, not

  578. spiritual status.

  579. So it doesn't actually elevate you any

  580. higher than someone who doesn't speak in

  581. tongues, but it is a gift that you can

  582. use to edify yourself.

  583. And so I take you back to that question

  584. as uh my

  585. crazy charismatic friends leaned in and

  586. were keen to hear what my answer was to

  587. should you consider dating seriously and

  588. marrying someone who doesn't speak in

  589. tongues.

  590. And I remember saying to her, "That's a

  591. really weird question.

  592. I said, "If you have to ask that

  593. question in terms of a person that

  594. you're considering marrying, like if

  595. speaking in tongues would be the

  596. difference between marrying them or not,

  597. they're probably not the right person to

  598. marry

  599. because you know in Corinthians it says,

  600. "I could speak in tongues, but if I

  601. don't have love, I am a clanging symbol.

  602. I can tell you I would far rather you

  603. marry someone who loves Jesus and loves

  604. you well rather than someone who

  605. mistreats you but speaks in tonesues

  606. because tongues is a gift. It's a gift

  607. from God and it's a gift we should

  608. treasure but it tells us about the

  609. giftgiver. It doesn't necessarily tell

  610. us about us as a receiver. And isn't it

  611. crazy that we receive a beautiful gift

  612. from God and we think it tells everyone

  613. about how good we are? Like we think it

  614. like results me. Like wow, I got this

  615. gift, man. I'm so spiritual.

  616. Actually, one of the things Gordon Fe

  617. says is the gift of tongues is a sign of

  618. weakness.

  619. God's like, I can't even trust them to

  620. speak of words they can understand. Like

  621. I just need to remove his understanding.

  622. Good grief. Give Aaron the gift of

  623. tongues. I'm sick of hearing HIS

  624. OPINION. LIKE, I'LL enable him to speak

  625. in things. I DON'T EVEN WANT HIM TO

  626. UNDERSTAND what he's saying.

  627. And so we can have environments where

  628. people have done that. But then the

  629. interesting thing is what then happens

  630. is uh people begin to say things like

  631. you know you ever met someone and like I

  632. did in the park and one of their first

  633. questions is do you speak in tonesues?

  634. Can I say with all love if you come here

  635. and you meet someone don't make your

  636. first conversation to ask them if they

  637. speak in tonesues. Like it's a great

  638. gift, but that's also stinking weird.

  639. Like ask them their name before you know

  640. want to know whether they speak in

  641. tongues. Maybe get to know them because

  642. the danger is it's like if I think if I

  643. know this about you then I understand

  644. how spiritual you are and it's not true.

  645. >> But the reality is this. Many people

  646. have encountered people like that and

  647. thought, "Well, I want nothing to do

  648. with this thing of tongues." Like,

  649. number one, it's pretty weird. Number

  650. two, I don't even know how they making

  651. it up. Like a new LA Times babblers.

  652. Like, man, I don't even know about that.

  653. And number three, they think they're

  654. better than me.

  655. So, why would I then want that gift?

  656. Because I'm seeing the fruit of

  657. arrogance, not the fruit of love. And so

  658. I want nothing to do with that gift.

  659. But one of the things we have to realize

  660. as we journey and this is far bigger

  661. than just a gift of tongues. So often

  662. reaction to error actually leads to

  663. error. If we react to error, it often

  664. leads to another error. You see what

  665. does Paul say at the start of 1

  666. Corinthians 14? He says, "Earnestly

  667. desire spiritual gifts."

  668. So if someone was rude to you about the

  669. gift of tongues, that's not right. And

  670. in some cases, people were in

  671. environments where they were made to

  672. feel really small, and that's not good.

  673. And sometimes we actually need healing

  674. from those things. But that experience

  675. does not give us the right to

  676. reinterpret scripture. It does not

  677. actually give us the right to say, well,

  678. even though it says earnestly desire

  679. gifts, I'm not doing it for that one.

  680. Like, oh, actually, yeah, I've seen what

  681. those people are like, and yeah, it

  682. might say earnestly desire gifts, but I

  683. want nothing to do with that. You see,

  684. if every time a gift is misused, we pull

  685. back and no longer desire it, then we

  686. will actually limit the Holy Spirit. And

  687. to be honest with all of us being broken

  688. people, it will not be too long till we

  689. have a bad experience with every

  690. spiritual gift. And before we know it,

  691. we have a church that is just relying on

  692. our own strength because we feel like

  693. it's not safe to step into the gifts of

  694. the spirit. But Paul tells us, hey, I

  695. wish all of you would speak in tonesues.

  696. I know many awesome Christians that have

  697. prayed for the gift of tongues and are

  698. yet to receive it. And can I say you can

  699. live a fruitful amazing Christian life

  700. without the gift of tongues. You do not

  701. need it to live the Christian life.

  702. >> Can I also say though it is a good gift

  703. from God.

  704. And so we need to hold those two

  705. tensions together where hey I may not

  706. need it 100% I can live a Christian life

  707. and you know you can I've got a friend

  708. that actually ministers in healing and

  709. sees way more healings than I see and he

  710. doesn't speak in tongues and I'm like

  711. sometimes I feel like I'm like well how

  712. about we swap gifts like I'd love to see

  713. some of the healings that you're saying

  714. could we swap God just give me that

  715. healing gift for a for a month and uh

  716. and he can have the tongues gift for a

  717. month.

  718. You know, you can live an incredibly

  719. fruitful life without the gift of

  720. tongues.

  721. But every gift that the father gives is

  722. good.

  723. And so anytime the posture of my heart

  724. is well I don't really need that or I

  725. don't really want that or that surplus

  726. to requirements for me when it is a gift

  727. of the spirit then we are entering a

  728. dangerous place and that's what I said

  729. about the why. You see the why isn't

  730. really about the gift of tongues. The

  731. why is are we people that pursue

  732. everything the Holy Spirit has for us?

  733. So,

  734. what is our response?

  735. I would love to encourage you this

  736. morning if you um don't speak in

  737. tonesues

  738. that you continue to seek that gift. I'm

  739. not saying you have to get up every

  740. morning and pray for 15 minutes to speak

  741. in tonesues, but it might be just, hey

  742. God, if that's a gift you've got for me,

  743. I'd love you to give that to me. And

  744. then you might not think about it for a

  745. few weeks and then God that's a gift I'd

  746. love for you to give to me. And I do

  747. believe sometimes we do need to step out

  748. into it that sometimes it comes in

  749. different ways to different people. And

  750. then I also know what's happened in some

  751. environments is they've been like, "Hey,

  752. if you don't speak in tongues, come up

  753. the front and we'll pray for you." And I

  754. believe in that. Like 100% believe you

  755. can receive the gift of tongues in that

  756. way. But I also know sometimes they've

  757. then been like, "Just speak it. Just

  758. speak it." And you feel like someone is

  759. staring at you, demanding a response.

  760. And it is now your job to prop them up

  761. and make them feel spiritual by giving

  762. them the right uh language. And uh you

  763. know, you either feel very silly or you

  764. try and say something and it often

  765. doesn't actually work as the best

  766. environment to receive a gift. I do

  767. believe in that, but I just believe if

  768. we were to do that now, I realize

  769. straight away we've kind of rein, hey,

  770. let's Who are all the people who don't

  771. speak in tongues? Right? Come out. Um,

  772. you know, we might then also have to go,

  773. who are all the people who speak in

  774. tongues and don't love people? Well,

  775. come out. And, uh, you know, we would

  776. kind of end up with a very full altar.

  777. Me and Paul would have to pray for a

  778. whole lot of people. and I'm not so sure

  779. about Paul, you know,

  780. and so this morning, that's not

  781. particularly what we're going to do. But

  782. what I do want to say is maybe you have

  783. been hurt and and this gift has been um

  784. yeah, made you to feel insignificant.

  785. And maybe even you're like, "Hey, I

  786. don't even know if that thing's real."

  787. Like, I've heard you guys and I think

  788. you're just babbling.

  789. Can I say uh in humility this morning, I

  790. think maybe just be open to the Lord.

  791. Like man, I don't have to like we don't

  792. have to 100% agree in this moment, but

  793. what I would suggest is maybe be open to

  794. the Lord.

  795. What about some of us who do speak in

  796. tongues?

  797. And rather than it be a gift to that we

  798. continually use to edify ourselves,

  799. we've actually found that it's a gift

  800. that um has kind of attached itself to

  801. our identity. You see, when a spiritual

  802. gift gets attached to your identity or

  803. worth or your level of spirituality, it

  804. will not be a healthy gift for you. When

  805. a when a when a gift now becomes about

  806. this proves the anointing on my life,

  807. this proves how spiritual I am, then

  808. that thing that's supposed to be such a

  809. blessing will actually rob us of what

  810. it's meant for.

  811. >> And I wonder if some of us uh have the

  812. gift of tongues but have just got out of

  813. the habit of using it. And man, maybe my

  814. encouragement this morning would be this

  815. is a beautiful gift. It does edify. It

  816. shifts something in your life. It's not

  817. the only way God shifts things in your

  818. life. And I believe if he's if you're

  819. seeking the gift of tongues and he's

  820. chosen not to give it to you yet, he

  821. will still shift things in your life

  822. with the gifts that in the ways that he

  823. needs to. But I do believe that all of

  824. us, whether we speak in tongues or not,

  825. should be hungry for more of the spirit.

  826. And if you do have a prayer language,

  827. that one of the ways you engage with the

  828. spirit of God is through using that

  829. prayer language. And maybe for some of

  830. us,

  831. we just need that reset that tongues was

  832. actually there to help us cuz we're

  833. weak, not cuz we're strong.

  834. And that maybe we actually need to

  835. allow that gift

  836. its proper place in our life.

  837. And so I guess whether you speak in

  838. tonesues or don't speak in tonesues, my

  839. encouragement to us this morning is that

  840. we have humility to ask the Lord for

  841. more.

  842. But I do want to say it is an awesome

  843. gift. If you don't speak in tongues,

  844. man, you're not less than. But I would

  845. encourage you, why not desire it? If you

  846. don't prophesy, you're not less than,

  847. but why not desire it? If you don't

  848. think you've got a gift of healing,

  849. you're not less than. But why not desire

  850. it?

  851. >> You know, one of my fears is that

  852. to get to the end of the life and go,

  853. "Oh, I didn't feel like I had that much

  854. anointing." And the the Lord sort of

  855. say, "Well, you had what you desired."

  856. And I, you know, spiritual gifts do

  857. operate in the realm of desire.

  858. >> And so, um, in just a moment, Calvin's

  859. going to close out the service. But

  860. before he does that, I just want to pray

  861. a simple prayer over us that the Lord

  862. would keep us humble, but he would also

  863. continue to have us as a people that are

  864. hungry for all the expressions of the

  865. Holy Spirit

  866. and we will have a prayer team on at the

  867. end. And if you're here this morning and

  868. you don't um you're not in relationship

  869. with Jesus and maybe you're like, "Wow,

  870. this is kind of interesting a prayer

  871. language, but you're sensing that you

  872. need to get your right life with get

  873. your life right with Jesus." Then

  874. there's a team that would love to pray

  875. with you this morning. If you've got any

  876. needs in your life as well, team would

  877. love to pray with you. Um so that

  878. opportunity is open.

  879. But Lord, I thank you that you give good

  880. gifts to your children.

  881. Lord, I do pray for each person who has

  882. had a bad encounter with the gift of

  883. tongues, who's maybe been made to feel

  884. inferior or um Lord, has been um maybe

  885. made to feel like they're not spiritual.

  886. Lord, I pray that you would heal those

  887. hurts.

  888. And Lord, I pray for all of us that we

  889. would remain humble and hungry, Lord.

  890. Lord, would we be humble and hungry for

  891. everything that you have for us,

  892. Lord, I bless each person here in the

  893. name of Jesus

  894. to grow in the things of the spirit,

  895. not for our sake, Lord, but so that you

  896. would be glorified, that we would be

  897. people of love, Lord, that your kingdom

  898. would come. I bless each person here in

  899. Jesus mighty name. Amen. Amen.