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John 5:30-40 - ”The Death of Religion” - Abundant Life (Gospel of John)

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  1. Good morning. I have our readings. Our

  2. first Old Testament reading is Psalm 132

  3. 11-8.

  4. The Lord swore to David a sure oath from

  5. which he will not turn back. One of the

  6. sons of your body I will set on your

  7. throne. If your sons keep my covenant

  8. and my testimonies that I shall teach

  9. them, their sons also forever shall sit

  10. on your throne. For the Lord has chosen

  11. Zion. He has desired it for his dwelling

  12. place. This is my resting place forever.

  13. Here I will dwell for I have desired it.

  14. I will abundantly bless her provisions.

  15. I will satisfy her poor with bread. Her

  16. priests I will clothe with salvation,

  17. and her saints will shout for joy. There

  18. I will make a horn to sprout for David.

  19. I have prepared a lamp for my anointed.

  20. His enemies I will clothe with shame,

  21. but on him his crown will shine.

  22. And our New Testament reading, we

  23. continue on in John 5:es 30-4.

  24. I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I

  25. judge, and my judgment is just because I

  26. seek not my own will, but the will of

  27. him who sent me. If I alone bear witness

  28. about myself, my testimony is not true.

  29. There is another who bears witness about

  30. me, and I know that the testimony that

  31. he bears about me is true. You sent to

  32. John, and he has borne witness to the

  33. truth. Not that the testimony that I

  34. receive is from man, but I say these

  35. things so that you may be saved. He was

  36. a burning and shining lamp, and you were

  37. willing to rejoice for a while in his

  38. light. But the testimony that I have is

  39. greater than that of John. For the works

  40. that the Father has given me to

  41. accomplish the very works that I am

  42. doing bear witness about me that the

  43. Father has sent me. And the Father who

  44. sent me has himself borne witness about

  45. me. His voice you have never heard. His

  46. form you have never seen. and you do not

  47. have his word abiding in you, for you do

  48. not believe the one whom he has sent.

  49. You search the scriptures because you

  50. think that in them you have eternal

  51. life, and it is they that bear witness

  52. about me, yet you refuse to come to me

  53. that you may have life. This is the word

  54. of the Lord.

  55. >> Thanks be to God.

  56. So, um, I had a friend, he was an elder,

  57. too, and he was, oh, he was long retired

  58. by the time I met him, and he would, and

  59. I would go for lunch once in a while,

  60. and he told me this story at lunch that

  61. I will never forget. He worked for

  62. Woodwards. How many people remember

  63. Woodwards?

  64. Okay, so I know who the old people are.

  65. Okay. Um,

  66. F. Woodwards was a grocery chain that

  67. was quite popular and there was a big

  68. one in downtown Vancouver and he worked

  69. for this one and he was a shipper

  70. receiver for it and he would go around

  71. and he would get to know over the years

  72. his his staff he was a manager pretty

  73. well. One of these staff, one of these

  74. drivers it turned out was a Christian

  75. like he was. So he got invited for

  76. dinner and Milt uh decided, okay, let's

  77. go. So, uh, he and his wife joined his,

  78. uh, this couple for dinner, and

  79. everything seemed normal until it got

  80. time for dinner.

  81. Back then, it was one of those houses

  82. that had a designed dining room, you

  83. know, like a room that was set apart.

  84. You've all remember that. And so, they

  85. walk into this dining room and they look

  86. and there's one table setting,

  87. just one.

  88. And my friend's like, "Oh, this is a

  89. tight group." Um,

  90. and then it was at that point that he

  91. was explained by the man that the his

  92. wife and him would have to sit with his

  93. wife in the kitchen and eat because his

  94. wife was a Plymouth brethren,

  95. but he was what he called an exclusive

  96. brethren.

  97. An exclusive brethren does not eat with

  98. someone who is not also an exclusive

  99. brethren because they're seen as

  100. potentially being unbelievers.

  101. I want you to think about that for a

  102. second.

  103. This man every night ate by himself.

  104. His wife who made the food

  105. was not allowed in the dining room. Now,

  106. I know some guys are thinking that might

  107. be quieter, but

  108. I don't agree.

  109. Just looking at my wife right now. I

  110. don't want to get in trouble.

  111. But joking aside, his wife's not able

  112. to. They sat in this little kitchen and

  113. ate

  114. because this man thought that his

  115. Christianity was so incredible and clean

  116. that not even his wife who he slept

  117. beside

  118. could sit and eat with him.

  119. Do you know what's that that's called?

  120. That's called religion.

  121. That is called a death.

  122. And you know what's sad?

  123. There's still a ton of it everywhere.

  124. >> That's right.

  125. >> And I'm going to tell you something.

  126. Jesus warns

  127. damnation more on religious people

  128. >> than he ever does the other guys.

  129. Let's pray.

  130. Heavenly Father, we thank you for your

  131. blessing to us. We thank you for these

  132. living words that you give us that help

  133. us to understand who you were. We pray

  134. that you breathe on these texts that uh

  135. you breathe through me

  136. um and that and that the words of my

  137. mouth and the meditation of my heart

  138. will be pleasing unto you in Jesus'

  139. name. Amen.

  140. Well, Jesus lived in a time of religion

  141. and a lot of people didn't eat together.

  142. And there's one group that didn't eat

  143. with anybody but their kind. And they

  144. were the exclusive brethrens of the

  145. first century. And they, of course, we

  146. all know as the Pharisees.

  147. The Pharisee, the literal word of the

  148. Pharisee means separate one. In other

  149. words, you're separate from everyone

  150. else. You're special. And these guys

  151. were the ones who kept they were like

  152. the religious police. They walked around

  153. Israel. They taught and then they made

  154. sure people followed the rules because

  155. they believed in following the rules God

  156. would forgive the nation and send his

  157. Messiah who would wipe out the Romans.

  158. That was their job. They were religious

  159. hall monitors.

  160. I know. I hated hall monitors too. Did

  161. anybody Why would you be a hall monitor

  162. anyways? But anyways,

  163. into this world. We have Jesus and he

  164. comes in and he's already they don't

  165. know what to do with him. And it's

  166. already now since he healed the man on

  167. the Sabbath, which is against the hall

  168. monitor's rules.

  169. Now they want to take him out. They

  170. already have had enough of him. And so

  171. they begin to question him. They are his

  172. judge. He is

  173. the one defendant in the docket. or so

  174. they think. And how does he respond to

  175. it? Well, if you go to last week's

  176. sermon, he basically says through about

  177. four or five images, I that the life is

  178. in me. You remember all of that? That I

  179. am God. That's what he says, which is

  180. the one thing you can't do. I can

  181. imagine him looking at their faces as

  182. they're saying that and he's tripled

  183. down, quadrupled down on this thing that

  184. basically what you see right now is God.

  185. So now we get to the point where Jesus

  186. does something interesting. He

  187. recognizes he's first in the docket. And

  188. so he talks about needing a witness. In

  189. the ancient world, when you went to

  190. court, you needed a witness, at least

  191. one to you what you did. Otherwise, it

  192. wasn't seen as legitimate. The witnesses

  193. had to be in two. So here goes Jesus

  194. back to them. I can do nothing on my

  195. own. As I hear, I what?

  196. >> Remember what I just said? They think

  197. they're judging him. What does he just

  198. say? Actually, I'm the judge. You see

  199. that?

  200. And my judgment is just

  201. because I seek not my own will, but the

  202. will of him who sent me. He's been

  203. saying this again and again. If I alone

  204. bear witness about myself, my testimony

  205. is not true. I just said that's the

  206. rules. Remember, you can't have your

  207. testimony about yourself. It's not

  208. saying Jesus would lie. He's saying,

  209. "But if it was just me, then rightfully

  210. so, you would say you're breaking the

  211. rules."

  212. But he says, "There is another."

  213. Who do you think he's talking about

  214. there?

  215. The Father, the Holy Spirit, something

  216. to do with God. I think it's the Father

  217. who bears witness about me. And I know

  218. that the testimony that he bears about

  219. me is true.

  220. You sent John. Now he goes back to John

  221. the Baptist, but he doesn't he's

  222. obviously not referring to John.

  223. You sent John the Baptist, who by the

  224. way, when he came, he was super popular.

  225. Josephus says they were so excited to

  226. have him.

  227. He had borne witness to the truth. Not

  228. Jesus not says that the testimony that I

  229. receive is from man. What does he

  230. already said about man earlier in John?

  231. He knows what's in the hearts of man.

  232. Even John, by the way, is far from com

  233. complete. He was not divine and he had

  234. his own problems.

  235. But I say these things so that you may

  236. be saved. I'm using these human

  237. analogies so you might start to

  238. understand that I'm testifying to the

  239. truth and you'll come to me. Do you see

  240. that? Note this that Jesus' end goal to

  241. these awful Pharisees who are going to

  242. put him on the cross is that they be

  243. saved.

  244. Jesus never stops being Jesus.

  245. At one time it says he looks at the

  246. Pharisees after some stupid thing they

  247. did and he grieved and he loved them.

  248. The text says

  249. he was a burning and shining lamp. He

  250. says of John. He just quoted that psalm

  251. we read. Why did he call him a burning

  252. and shining lamp? Because in that psalm,

  253. the burning and shining lamp is the one

  254. who bears witness to the one that's

  255. going to fill David's temple and

  256. kingship. And Jesus is going to be that.

  257. So that's why he's pointing to that. So

  258. Jesus is the Davidic king. And you were

  259. willing to res rejoice for a while in

  260. that his light.

  261. Fair enough. The same word rejoice is

  262. what Josephus says. They enjoyed him.

  263. But they don't enjoy Jesus.

  264. He goes on, "For the works that the

  265. father has given me to accomplish, the

  266. very works that I'm doing, these are

  267. what is bearing witness." This is what

  268. the witness is. What are those works?

  269. Well, right now, we've seen water turned

  270. into wine. We've seen a man healed,

  271. haven't we? One thing John the Baptist

  272. never does. There's no evidence of any

  273. healing. He never does. Jesus is coming

  274. around and setting everything to rights.

  275. And he's saying, "The father is my

  276. witness in this courtroom because that's

  277. the only way I can be doing the things

  278. that I did." It notice Nicodemus said

  279. this when he first met him. No man can

  280. do this without God.

  281. This is the witness

  282. for the first for the works that I that

  283. the father has given me to accomplish.

  284. The very works that I am doing bear

  285. witness about me. That witness is

  286. witness in a court about me that the

  287. father has sent me. And the father who

  288. has sent me self borne witness about me.

  289. What does he mean there?

  290. Well, is it the signs? Could it be the

  291. baptism? Do you remember? This is my son

  292. who I'm well pleased. They all heard

  293. that, right?

  294. Whatever it is, the witness that's the

  295. important point is God himself,

  296. not human.

  297. his and then he flips it and this is

  298. such a beautiful move. He's sitting in

  299. the defense table defending why he

  300. should be able to be believed and then

  301. he sneaks over to the prosecution.

  302. And when he sees to the pro sneaks over

  303. to the prosecution, boy does he punch

  304. him with both fists. I'm telling you

  305. guys, when he says what he's about to

  306. say, you're not going to doubt why they

  307. killed him. Remember, these are very

  308. religious people. These are people that

  309. study their scriptures 247.

  310. They memorize the Old Testament. These

  311. are the Pharisee.

  312. He says this,

  313. "His voice you have never heard. His

  314. form you have never seen."

  315. Now you have to understand they lived in

  316. their Old Testament. Who did these

  317. people think they were? They were true

  318. Israelites. They were the followers of

  319. Moses. They kept Torah, right? They were

  320. the ones who were following David,

  321. Joshua.

  322. When he says his voice you have never

  323. heard, he is pointing to the fact number

  324. one, they are not the children of Moses.

  325. Because what did God say to Moses? And

  326. thus the Lord used to speak to Moses

  327. face to face as a man speaks to his

  328. friends. He just said, "You've never

  329. heard his voice yet. Moses heard his

  330. voice. You're not like Moses. You're not

  331. even in that. You love Torah. You don't

  332. even understand it." Why does that

  333. matter? Because faith is not about

  334. getting it right. It's about knowing

  335. God.

  336. Do you see that?

  337. What about this? Your form I've never

  338. heard. Well, Jacob, do you remember that

  339. story? He wrestles with God. And then he

  340. said, "Your name shall no longer be

  341. called Jacob, but Israel, God said after

  342. the is after the match, for you have

  343. striven with God with men and have

  344. prevailed."

  345. And then after that, Jacob says, "I have

  346. seen the Lord his form and heard his

  347. voice." So what does that mean? You've

  348. never heard his voice. You're not like

  349. Moses.

  350. and you've never seen his form. You're

  351. not like even Israel.

  352. Do you know what he's actually saying

  353. right now?

  354. You're a bunch of pagans.

  355. I mean, I want you to understand how

  356. shocking. And they would have heard it

  357. cuz they knew the text.

  358. Oh, but Jesus gets nicer, right?

  359. He goes on, "And you do not have his

  360. word abiding in you." Oh,

  361. these guys study the scripture every

  362. moment. They study it. They study it and

  363. they don't know the word.

  364. Well, who are they not like then? Well,

  365. who wrote the Psalms? At least they

  366. believed

  367. who? David. Agreed. So, they're going to

  368. follow David, right? Oh, except Psalm

  369. 119 says, "I have stored up your word in

  370. my heart

  371. that I might not sin against you." He's

  372. just said, "You don't have the word in

  373. you." He's just saying, "Guess what?

  374. You're not like David.

  375. Moses, Israel, David." Isn't that nice?

  376. This guy is the meanest prosecutor.

  377. You're going to want to take him out

  378. back after.

  379. And then they dreamed of this time of

  380. the new Exodus in the promised land. Who

  381. led Israel into the promised land? It

  382. wasn't Moses. It was Joshua. Right? And

  383. what about Joshua? Well, they're not

  384. like him either. The book of law shall

  385. not depart from your mouth, but you

  386. shall meditate it on day and night so

  387. that you may be careful to do that all

  388. is written in it. Joshua had the word in

  389. him.

  390. You do not have the word dwelling in

  391. you. He has just

  392. not like Moses,

  393. not like Israel. You're not Israel.

  394. You're not like David. And you're not

  395. like Joshua.

  396. These are their heroes, you guys. These

  397. are like their Wayne Gretzkies back

  398. then. I don't know if that guy even if

  399. anyone's hero anymore. I should shut up

  400. because there's politics nowadays.

  401. um he's a hero

  402. >> and he just said, "You're not like any

  403. of them."

  404. How odd. No one would talk to them like

  405. that. And then he gives them the reason.

  406. And the reason should shock religious

  407. people.

  408. Read this closely. You and this word in

  409. Greek says, and this is where sometimes

  410. I don't like the my favorite translation

  411. is this one, but it should have this in.

  412. It says, "You diligently with intents

  413. search the scriptures

  414. because you think that in them you have

  415. eternal life.

  416. And it is they that bear witness about

  417. me. Yet you refuse to come to me that

  418. you may have life."

  419. They made a fateful error that happens

  420. again and again. They worshiped

  421. scripture,

  422. not the what scripture was pointing to.

  423. A famous theologian once said, "The

  424. Bible is not the fourth member of the

  425. quadilateral.

  426. It is not divine.

  427. It is breathed on and God uses it, but

  428. it's always there to point a way to

  429. Jesus Christ, to a relationship. It's

  430. not a book to get right.

  431. So today

  432. we have a lot of religion

  433. and it's turning people off.

  434. And I can see how it happened

  435. for a long time. We've had what I call

  436. bad religion.

  437. Bad religion has simply been this.

  438. People have come out too smart for their

  439. own good. And they've come up with these

  440. ideas that we couldn't trust scripture

  441. because it wasn't historical in certain

  442. ways or we couldn't trust Paul because

  443. he was he was anti-women or we couldn't

  444. trust this to be said and all of this

  445. and you started having churches where

  446. your belief became in just kind of a

  447. feeling that you had when you went to

  448. church because scripture was attacked

  449. and then all of a sudden debates were

  450. can we trust scripture or not trust

  451. scripture? Does anybody remember those

  452. days?

  453. Those days are gone. And it's got even

  454. sillier. Now, of course, in our new

  455. postmodern age, this bad religion has

  456. gotten worse. It's gotten sillier.

  457. Now, people don't even care about

  458. scripture. It's all your inner feelings.

  459. And so, we have churches that pander to

  460. your inner feelings. And there is

  461. churches with rainbow flags and all

  462. things about sexuality and gender and

  463. all kinds of things that the Bible would

  464. be horrified by.

  465. And people are reacting.

  466. People are reacting hard to this

  467. because this stuff's out there. And by

  468. the way, it's not that threatening.

  469. There isn't that much out there. But

  470. there is out there. And people are like,

  471. "Oh, we're going to lose our way if the

  472. church keeps going this way." And

  473. there's been a group that I've run into,

  474. a group out of that bad religion

  475. who basically

  476. made it their business to make sure and

  477. they do it online cuz that's where you

  478. sell now to make a point that really

  479. Christianity is just a feeling you have

  480. inside

  481. that nothing else matters.

  482. Neber used to said it like this. They

  483. ended up with a God without wrath

  484. brought human beings without sin into a

  485. kingdom without judgment through the

  486. ministrations of a Christ without a

  487. cross.

  488. There was just nothing there.

  489. And so people got angrier and angrier.

  490. But here's the problem. And I'm not

  491. preaching against this silliness

  492. religion. This stuff's easy.

  493. There's something that blinds us, you

  494. guys, that's much worse than even that.

  495. It's the overreaction.

  496. It's the angry religion.

  497. It's the religion that has it so right

  498. it's evil.

  499. That has Jesus so nailed down that if he

  500. came they'd nail him down again.

  501. This is the religion that make people

  502. think I've got it figured out. Let me

  503. give you an example of this religion.

  504. I was sitting in a coffee house and I

  505. was studying for a sermon. So I had my

  506. books laid out and a gentleman walked in

  507. and I had a book by Carl Bart sitting

  508. there. Most people don't come up to you

  509. in a coffee house that are sane.

  510. But he made a point of walking up and he

  511. said, "Why are you reading that?"

  512. That caught me off guard. I said, "Well,

  513. because I'm kind of study him at school

  514. and I'm right now first year in school

  515. and I'm going to use him in a sermon."

  516. And he said, 'Well, you know he's a

  517. universalist.

  518. I said, 'Oh, Daisy, I've read almost all

  519. his works. What have you read? I didn't

  520. read anything. I heard it.

  521. So, I sat there with him and I realized

  522. that this was a very passionate young

  523. man. He was a youth leader in the local

  524. church. You won't know him. He's in

  525. Siri.

  526. And he began to sit there and try and

  527. argue with me about everything that I

  528. was wrong because I happened to read

  529. Carl Bart. You see, because he was

  530. right.

  531. I asked him finally what he was, and it

  532. turns out he's what's called a Neo

  533. Calvinist.

  534. Stay away.

  535. Their whole thing is to get it right and

  536. help people get it right.

  537. Then his poor little wife walks over. I

  538. swear this happened. And he looks and he

  539. goes,"What do you like with your wife?"

  540. And I went, "I'm scared of her." He

  541. didn't laugh.

  542. And he goes, "Oh, you're one of them. My

  543. wife submits." And he points to her

  544. and he goes, "I'll tell you how much she

  545. submits." This is the idiocy of youth. I

  546. can get it whenever I want. I'm like,

  547. whoa, maybe I need to join yours now.

  548. The truth is his wife looked beat down.

  549. Horrible.

  550. And so then Emry became Emory and the

  551. flesh came out cuz I knew a lot more

  552. than he did. And I started to argue.

  553. Well, he got so mad he threw a salt

  554. shaker at me because he couldn't win the

  555. argument.

  556. There was so much argument and anger in

  557. this man because he had scripture and he

  558. had studied it not well

  559. and he thought that in it he had eternal

  560. life and he thought he had to convince

  561. people around even people he didn't know

  562. at coffee shops. What he didn't realize

  563. is he picked a fight with the wrong guy

  564. because I'm from Prince George and you

  565. want to fight? Let's go. All right.

  566. But you realize something very quickly

  567. that religion has some very angry people

  568. in it. And people who call themselves

  569. the Bible believers. Did you know that?

  570. People who are going to police that make

  571. sure we get it all right. And they're

  572. bad. They don't treat people well.

  573. They're not very happy. I love what CS

  574. Lewis said. Of all bad men, religious

  575. bad men are the worst. You know why

  576. they're the worst? Because they think

  577. they have God backing them.

  578. When he sat down on that table beside me

  579. with his meek little wife, he thought he

  580. was doing the Lord's work.

  581. And as he left, he looked at me and he

  582. said, "You have the tongue of the

  583. serpent

  584. because you lost the argument." Oh well,

  585. I guess I'm smarter than your God. I'm

  586. sorry.

  587. The truth is what he forgot.

  588. He forgot this is that the Bible isn't

  589. the thing we get right

  590. so we get to heaven. Did you know that?

  591. You're saying, Emry, you preach the

  592. Bible. I love scripture and promise me

  593. you got to stay till the end. But the

  594. Bible is not something we get right so

  595. that one day we get to heaven. And it

  596. certainly isn't up to us to get them to

  597. get it right.

  598. Robert Farer Copon.

  599. We are not saved by what Jesus taught.

  600. And we are certainly not saved by what

  601. we understand Jesus to have taught.

  602. We are saved by Jesus himself.

  603. Dead and risen.

  604. That is in scripture.

  605. If you or I are sitting here saved

  606. today, it's because Jesus Christ died

  607. for our sins when we could not and rose

  608. from the dead.

  609. And all the scriptures do, oh those

  610. beloved scriptures, those God breathed

  611. scriptures which I love, point to that

  612. truth and point to him.

  613. What does Jesus say to them? All

  614. scripture points to me.

  615. Right?

  616. It is not a science book to get correct.

  617. And when we use it that to disprove

  618. other people, we become like those

  619. Pharisees and we start to dehumanize

  620. people, fellow Christians who don't

  621. agree with us.

  622. I like this

  623. guy's up in heaven. It's not good

  624. theology, by the way. Talking to Peter

  625. and he says, "You were a believer. Yes,

  626. but you skipped the not being a jerk

  627. about it part.

  628. You know, I know this isn't one I'm just

  629. letting you guys know this is a real

  630. thing. I have a friend in this town who

  631. had a pastor that walked up to him,

  632. invited him for lunch, and he spent the

  633. whole lunch instead of how getting to

  634. know you. How are your kids with the

  635. Bible out going verse to verse of where

  636. he was wrong?

  637. 100% true.

  638. Here's the truth that no one ever thinks

  639. about. It does say in the Bible we are

  640. going to be judged. Agreed? Does say

  641. that? We all agree with that. And Jesus

  642. came and is right now a judge. Would you

  643. agree with that? Who did Jesus judge

  644. when he first came?

  645. Who did he judge?

  646. Tax collectors?

  647. Healed them?

  648. Prostitutes?

  649. Sinners?

  650. Oh, those awful Romans. Go back and read

  651. how little he judges them. Who does he

  652. judge? Who's the one that he says you go

  653. halfway around the world to make a

  654. convert and you make them twice the son

  655. of hell than you are?

  656. Who's the one that when he says

  657. something bad and the the disciples

  658. being morons as they always are say,

  659. "Oh, watch out. You might have offended

  660. the Pharisees." Who's the one he says,

  661. "Oh, you tell those sons of Satan?"

  662. Pharisees.

  663. Who is the one that he constantly warns

  664. that they will be thrown in the lake of

  665. fire, Gehana, if they do not follow him?

  666. Pharisees,

  667. the ones that diligently study the

  668. scripture in his first time are the one

  669. he's saying are out. He just said,

  670. "You're not Moses. You're not walking in

  671. these guys' way."

  672. Yet, every sermon I hear about religion

  673. and judgment, it's always against the

  674. guy at the bar.

  675. Have you ever thought that maybe

  676. we need to have our eyes open?

  677. Oh my friends,

  678. we must at least give some credence to

  679. the fact that judgment may not be what

  680. we think it is.

  681. that maybe some of those who crossed

  682. that

  683. Rubicon on that day

  684. are not are going to be surprised that

  685. they never knew him.

  686. They studied the scriptures all for to

  687. get eternal life but they didn't come to

  688. him.

  689. The gatekeepers who celebrate keeping

  690. people out. the ones who Jesus says pour

  691. more on people without once trying to

  692. help take it off.

  693. I would argue that that is a much more

  694. dangerous warning in the New Testament

  695. than the other kind of judgment we hear

  696. every other time.

  697. So, it seems to me we better

  698. watch out for religious symptoms

  699. because there are some I've seen it over

  700. 25 years of ministry. I've seen it and

  701. these are the things I've been tempted

  702. to. Okay? So, I admit that all of us can

  703. be tempted into this. By the way, there

  704. is a Pharisee in me and there's a

  705. Pharisee in you.

  706. And by the way, it's not

  707. denominationally.

  708. You can be reformed, charismatic, you

  709. can be Menanite, you can be I don't know

  710. what else there is out there, Catholic,

  711. and you can believe that you are it.

  712. So my number one symptom

  713. is that your church is the right church.

  714. That's a huge one.

  715. If you're under any illusion that your

  716. church has arrived, let me put all your

  717. thoughts to bed about Mountain View.

  718. We're Presbyterian. And if you know what

  719. that means, we don't have a hope to be

  720. the right one.

  721. I love this church. I love worshiping

  722. with people here. But I assure you, we

  723. do not have it

  724. exclusively.

  725. I had a guy walk up, another minister in

  726. town, and he surprised me because he

  727. said, "Emmyry,

  728. my church and your church and one other

  729. are the only Bible preaching churches in

  730. town."

  731. What a bunch of boine feces.

  732. It's not a swear word. I checked.

  733. But why does that feed us? And why do

  734. people go to these churches? Because

  735. they grow. By the way, they're the

  736. fastest growing churches sometimes.

  737. Because it feeds our ego. When we've got

  738. the right one, then you're not.

  739. Then we're better than you.

  740. If you believe you are at the right

  741. church or you have someone who's telling

  742. you you are at the right church,

  743. immediately you're going to be a

  744. hierarchial system and you're going to

  745. look down at those poor old

  746. Presbyterians. And I know cuz we're way

  747. down.

  748. Number two,

  749. you abandon people because they don't

  750. agree with you.

  751. This is what cults do. By the way, if

  752. you try and leave the Jehovah Witness

  753. faith, I know because I had a friend,

  754. you're not talked to anymore by any of

  755. them

  756. because it's the right way. I'd like to

  757. think it's just Jehovah Witness, but

  758. I've seen it in churches. I've seen

  759. people stop talking to each other

  760. because of the man who shall not be

  761. named who has orange hair,

  762. let alone our theology.

  763. I know people who will not worship to

  764. each other because we wouldn't worship

  765. here because we baptized a child. I know

  766. others who wouldn't worship at an adult

  767. Baptist place. And guess what? Get over

  768. yourself. I've read it. You can't

  769. guarantee you got that one right. I can

  770. tell you there's two ways to read that

  771. one.

  772. I know people who will not sit with

  773. people who don't speak in tongues. Are

  774. you nuts? Cuz I saw that somewhere in

  775. like Hezekiah 10. There's no Hezekiah.

  776. When you look at someone and you think

  777. they go here or there and they aren't my

  778. brother or they're less than a brother

  779. because they don't get it right.

  780. Welcome to the Pharisees.

  781. Cuz what were their names? Do you

  782. remember their names?

  783. It meant separate ones.

  784. And by the way, fewer longer you stay in

  785. that, fewer and fewer friends you have

  786. because there's fewer and fewer people

  787. who can live up to your great

  788. spirituality.

  789. Number three, and this is a big one, you

  790. know people standing with God.

  791. You can say, "I'm in and that person's

  792. out." And as soon as you do that, you're

  793. breaking the one thing they said not to

  794. do.

  795. Do not judge it. Do not judge does not

  796. mean do not judge the behavior. That's

  797. not what it means. It means discern and

  798. do what's right in the church.

  799. What it means when he says do not judge.

  800. You can't call whether that person's

  801. right with God or not.

  802. Right?

  803. I mean, how many people around David,

  804. the man of the heart of God, would have

  805. looked at him after he cheated with

  806. Basha and then had hubby die and would

  807. have said, "He's not with God." If that

  808. happened today, everyone.

  809. He'd be blacklisted.

  810. Who was with God? David. Cuz guess what?

  811. God's different than us.

  812. >> You have no right to look at anyone in

  813. this world and say, "I know they're

  814. damned.

  815. You know why? Ready for this?

  816. You're not God.

  817. That's the number one thing I see in

  818. religious groups is they know who's in

  819. and they know who's out.

  820. I'm going to tell you right now that'll

  821. kill us.

  822. I have some good news.

  823. There is an antidote.

  824. grace.

  825. I want you to think about the people

  826. in John's story that end up with Jesus.

  827. Do any of them carry the cross with

  828. Jesus?

  829. Do any of them admit, "Oh, that's my

  830. Messiah right till the end."

  831. Do any of them walk purely and holy

  832. through the whole thing?

  833. Who's with them? Peter

  834. denies him three times. The disciples

  835. running away. He's got a woman at the ca

  836. at the at the cave at the tomb.

  837. Demonized seven times.

  838. He's his lady.

  839. He's got prostitutes. He's got people

  840. that and and again and again. Who is the

  841. ones around him? It's always the people

  842. that are out.

  843. And he says they're in why

  844. grace.

  845. Think of Paul. He wrote all of those

  846. wonderful

  847. letters. Who was this guy?

  848. He was the Pharisee, a Pharisee. He was

  849. the Jew of Jews. He was it. And he says,

  850. "Oh, by the way, everything about that

  851. is I can't say the word feces."

  852. But the bad word

  853. that you throw out the window, he says

  854. to the Philippians,

  855. all of it.

  856. The guy that Jesus runs into on that

  857. road is a man who's out to kill people,

  858. right? He's murderous. He's angry.

  859. And when does he get in? Because of

  860. Jesus Christ opening his eyes.

  861. I'm going to tell you something right

  862. now. When we end up on that day, and we

  863. will, it will not be, "Please respond

  864. and on your memorization texts."

  865. It will not be, "Okay, did you get

  866. justification just correctly? Come on

  867. now. I mean, I taught it. It's in the

  868. Bible."

  869. Do you know what'll happen on that day

  870. when he says, "Well done, good and

  871. faithful servant." It's because you are

  872. carrying his goodness because he's

  873. implanted it upon you. He died for your

  874. sins so his righteousness could be in

  875. you.

  876. If any of us are going to be eternal

  877. life, resurrected people, it's because

  878. of his love and grace alone.

  879. Now, let's say we believed that.

  880. then there's no way we can believe that

  881. we're the only church, right? Cuz it's

  882. grace alone.

  883. There's no way we can remove someone

  884. that we don't agree with out of our

  885. lives cuz it's by grace alone.

  886. And there's no way you can ever ever say

  887. who's right with God because it's grace

  888. alone.

  889. Brendan Manning. We should be astonished

  890. at the goodness of God, stunned that he

  891. should bother to call us by name, our

  892. mouths wide open at his love, bewildered

  893. that at this very moment we are standing

  894. on holy ground.

  895. If you believe that, you know Jesus.

  896. I don't want to say that I don't love

  897. scripture and I think scripture is

  898. wonderful and we should have the word in

  899. us, but let's seek it for Jesus Christ

  900. and grace, not rules

  901. and a hammer. Oh, and you're worried

  902. about the weird silly churches that I

  903. mentioned in the beginning. Guess what?

  904. God has released his spirit. Pentecost

  905. has happened. He will convict them over

  906. time.

  907. Our job is to be faithful to the Jesus

  908. who loves us.

  909. I'm going to end with Bart.

  910. Bart lived in a world of extreme

  911. um extreme religion who ended up with

  912. the Nazis. And they used to talk about

  913. how they were who was holier by then

  914. than who had done more of the right acts

  915. that week.

  916. and he realized that the church was the

  917. most divided church he'd ever seen.

  918. So he came up with this saying,

  919. "When we speak of our virtues, we are

  920. competitors.

  921. When we confess our sins, we become

  922. brothers."

  923. My dear friends, you are loved by Jesus

  924. Christ

  925. because he died for your sins. He rose

  926. from the dead and he has poured his

  927. spirit upon you. Seek him. He's life. Go

  928. to your scriptures and find him.

  929. And then you'll be a witness to people

  930. around you.

  931. Truly,

  932. many people stay away from Jesus because

  933. of religion

  934. who would otherwise love Jesus Christ.

  935. Let's be that witness. Let's have grace

  936. and then let's with joy celebrate

  937. the fact that we are alive because of

  938. him.

  939. Amen.

  940. >> Let's pray.

  941. Heavenly Father, you are so good.

  942. We invite you to please transform our

  943. hearts. We recognize we're given to this

  944. ourselves

  945. and let's celebrate every Sunday. Let us

  946. be shocked as we come in here that our

  947. God loves us enough.

  948. And when we meet those people we don't

  949. agree with.

  950. Let's embrace them and pray for them.

  951. When we see another church, let's

  952. celebrate that you are alive just as

  953. much as here.

  954. and let us leave judgment to you with

  955. the trust that if you could save us, you

  956. can save anybody.

  957. Amen.

  958. Feel

  959. free