The Be.Attitudes of Following Jesus Series - Part 1A: Practicing the Way - Apprentice to Jesus | Andy Yeoh

Hey, you welcome to the Generation's Church podcast. We pray you will be

blessed by this message. Today I made a word of God both encouraged and

challenge you to be all God purpose you to be. Now, let's dive

right in. This series is called the b Attitudes of Following Jesus. So

cool, the b Attitudes of Following Jesus. So if if this whole thing

is to be summarized in the one word, it's called the Discipleship series.

That's it. It's just that sometimes we use the word discipleship and we talk

to ten different Christians, and ten different Christians will have ten different ideas about

what discipleship really is. That's why. That's one of the reasons why we're

doing this series. Okay, it's called the b Attitudes of Following Jesus.

Now Part one. Today we start part one and I've entitled Part one practicing

the Way or in other words, Apprentice to Jesus. I don't know why,

but let long long titles, so forgive me, but here we go.

Part one is this single way or in other words, apprentice to Jesus.

Remember, words have meaning. All these words are carefully chosen. So

let's start discipleship. We have attempted to define it in a very simple way

in this church before, and this is this. Discipleship is known as the

process. It's not an event, it's not just a destination. It's a

process. Somebody say, a process. What process is? It is a

process of becoming like Jesus, meaning to say, the more we do discipleship

the right way, the more we'll become like Jesus. It's simple enough to

understand. Discipleship is the process of becoming like Jesus, not your pastor not

the brand, not the church like Jesus. Amen, let's carry on.

If I were to break it down and make it more specific, it is

the intentional, not by chance. It doesn't happen just because you came to

judge today. This process is intentional. It is relational. It is designed

to be done in community. Okay, So without going into it further now,

maybe later on, I'm going to say that discipleship is designed to be

done in community, so therefore it is not possible to be just you and

Jesus. More on that later. Okay. It's the intentional, relational process

or journey. It is a journey of becoming more like Jesus every day.

Amen. In other words, if I were to put it in one phrase,

discipleship is following Jesus, following over Okay, so next life. So

the be editudes of following Jesus. I'm referring to the bees and the attitudes

of discipleship, and I'll explain that as we go along. Okay, the

b editors refers to the pa and the attitudes of this process called following Jesus,

Amen, or in other words, next light, it's called practicing the

way. Now this is not my original idea, adding and I'm not going

to present it like it's my own. Found it in a book. The

book is called Plicing the Way by this guy called John mac commer all around

the world. Now it's one of the most popular Christian writers. But he

wrote on this thing called practicing the Way. So these terms I borrow from

him because it makes complete sense to me to describe discipleship this way. Practicing

the way. Me being me and us being us Malaysians. We we like

to take something and then we make it our own. Right. We take

like pasta and then we put carry inside. So I'm going to take John

Ma's comma pasta and put some carry in it. Okay, Okay. So

John macommer describes the goal of disappo as three things. Be with Jesus,

become like Jesus, and do as he did. Okay, here's the career

in generations. We have also described our goals as a church for people,

which is these three things to belong, to, believe, and become.

Okay. Now, when we see these three vers this way, there is

a step to it. We see that people who start belonging first, we

don't expect them to behave or to already be all perfect before they come to

church. They can just come as they are, and we give them a

place to belong, and as they're part of the community, they will start

to believe and become all. Right. Now, if I were to stretch

this further and put more details into it, as I repackage this, it

will sound like this belong in community, believe in Christ, and become like

Christ. That's our general goal in generations, want people to belong in community

and in community they will believe in Christ and start becoming like Christ. Amen.

So now to throw in more discipposite Korean disciposhi. Therefore, for us

is is one who belongs to Jesus. You already belong to him, you're

his and as you belong to him, you will believe in him. So

there's a disciple, okay. And they will do these three things. They

will be with Jesus, become like Jesus pretty much his words, right,

John's words. But I make him to a bila, behave like Jesus,

because behaves to act, think, feel, do as Jesus. So far,

so good. Diciple shape is one who belongs to Jesus, who believes

in Jesus, and they do these three things, they be with Jesus,

they become like Jesus, and they behave like Jesus. In other words,

the behavior to do as Jesus did. All right, let's move on.

Let's move on. Okay. So see often right when we come to when

we think of disciple ship or anything basically in life, we tend to think

of life and even processes like how to make a cake, or how to

run the marathon or how to build a bit whatever. Right, We tend

to think in in linear terms. Step one, finish step one, and

then step two finish that and then step three. Okay, Now it helps

when we are Brown by time and space, which we are right. We

live in time and space. There's only so much time, there's in it

so much space. So that's why we are always wired to think of everything

in time and space terms step one, step two. So we we also

tend to think about discipleship that we're like, oh, what do I do

first? Must at convert first? Or disciposition starts before I convert or after.

That's where we get a little bit mess up when we apply time and

space concepts to something that's eternal. Okay, in the Kingdom of God,

is not always linear, not always that one step to set three, not

always linear in not in the line least, because God himself is not bound

by time and space. Therefore he doesn't necessarily think, act, or create

under those limitations following so far. In other words, when we say discipleship,

we think one, two three. When Jesus says the sipoship, it

may not be one to three. If it's is three twenty. To him

who's able to do exceed far more abundantly than all we ask or think them

is a let me give you a different application to the scripture. We always

think of this as a miracle scripture breakthrough right, but basically telling us God

things differently. We think one, two, three, we do this first,

and this then this got things above and beyond that. Amen. Okay,

so we see this in different right. Now. Remember we talked about

being centered set in this church. Still remember that. Okay, for those

of you are new, we are desided we're gonna be a center set church,

not a bounded set of fuzzy set. Let me quickly explain. A

bounded set is the main question to ask is are you in the set or

are you out? For example, it's a mathematical concept. For example,

all even numbers are in the set. Therefore all odd numbers are outside the

set. So for example, some churches my my function away. If you're

a church member, then we baptize you, or you get this come for

your church gam or you get this T shirt free or whatever. Okay,

it's a in or out. We find that to be sometimes unhelpful because the

kinot got doesn't work that way, and some people react to that. Some

churches react to that and then they become fuzzy. Said, oh, let's

have no rules, because no, we got to be judgmental. We accept

everybody. Then they become no rules, no right, no wrong, They

become fuzzy. That's also not helpful. We want to be centered set.

The main question in the center set community is which direction are you moving in?

Are you moving towards all away? Amen? So in this church we

believe that as a pea, as long as people are moving towards Jesus,

that's the direction we want to move in. Some of us are one meter

from Jesus very close, Saint almost Summer, one kilometer away, very far.

But we don't judge them because we are both moving the same direction.

Amen, Centered said, which direction are we moving in? So as we

look at the three things of this apposit bach Jesus believe like Jesus become by

Jesus. I've purposely put it. Not in the line, It's in the

circle, right it all. It's all touching each other. Everything is happening

at the same time. You get me. So those who belong to Jesus

or believe in Jesus is moving towards Jesus. You see that. You see

the error, okay, And it starts with just to understanding. It starts

with one thing, to be with Jesus. This relates to last week's message,

and I'll explain as we go along. But it's at the court,

at the core of excipleship, at the court of a Christians, a Christians

life is we just want to be in Jesus, be with God. It's

not step one to step two because as you are becoming like Jesus, the

heart of it is to be with Jesus. You see how the concept works

now, It's not step subt for you. It is everything happening. It's

a process, a journey. Amen, some days of trying so hard to

become like Jesus, behave like him, but then you find it yourself you

need to just retreat and just be with Him and not do anything all at

the same time, you are not retreating, you are not going backwards.

You're part of the process as a whole. Which part of the circle or

which part of the journey will be a better word, Which part of the

journey might you be at right now? So I'm gonna give you a framework

for part one. This is part one. This is what we're thinking about.

We're answering these questions. What is discipleship? The show answer is it's

a process, it's not an event. It's not a program. It's not

a project, it's a process. Number two, process of what that process

is a process of becoming like Jesus. Okay, we're gonna address these matters.

Number three, what do you call this process? Well, we're choosing

to call it practicing the way or being an apprentice to Jesus or discipleship.

Okay. Number four, why is it important to apprentice under Jesus Because we're

all already disciples or something. The question is whether it's Jesus or not.

Well explained that. Number five, how do we do this? Well,

we need to be intentional with the process. It does not happen automatically or

inevitably. It is something that has to be intentional. You have a part

to play. Amen. And finally, what does this process look like?

We've already mentioned it. Just now be with Jesus, Become like Jesus,

behave like Jesus. Amen, let's give it the first one. What is

this type of ship? And the answer that I say, it's a process.

So friends, let's begin with the invitation of Jesus to disciple shape because

it's Jesus who started this whole thing, right, it is him who first

said, come follow me. And before he left earth, he told us

to do the same to others, make disciples do what he did. So

let's start with the invitation of Jesus to discipleship. It was. It was

not to convert to a new religion called Christianity. Jesus when he said follow

me, he's not saying come join a new religion. This is better.

No, no, no. He never used the word religion, and he

never used the word Christianity. Okay, let's address what it is not.

When Jesus said come follow me, it is not asking people to convert into

a new religion or to something called Christianity. Number two, His primary invitation

was what come follow me. Discipleship is following Jesus. I know I threw

a lot of words already. They're all interchangeable and all intersecting. Discipleship is

a process by suppose of what following Jesus. So this is discipleship now.

But it's basically the twenty times in twelve different conversations that Jesus it follow me.

Basically this to illustrate, not one time Jesus said convert, get saved.

Say this in this prayer, come to the author, call, raise

your hand you know what I'm saying, feel about. I'm not saying any

of those things are bad. I'm just saying, if we are to understand

the scuppership correctly, we must understand what it is not first. And just

because it is not not not, that doesn't mean it's bad. Not saying

prayer is bad soh in college band, just saying let's not let's learn to

different shiit those things. Twenty times Jesus said come follow me in twelve different

conversations. This is just the Gospels. Matthew, Mark, look, and

John okay, cool, And this invitation to follow me. When Jesus said

come follow me, it was an invitation to apprentice somebody's apprentice. It's an

invitation to apprentice under Jesus into whole new way of life. That's what Jesus

is inviting you to do. So, if this is, if this is

our basis from now on two years from now, when I say hey,

are you a disciple, I'm not saying have you joined the class. I'm

not saying do you dress like us? You know what I'm saying, I'm

asking you, have you been following Jesus and living a new way of life?

And this new way of life is what Jesus calls the Kingdom of God.

That means there's a kingdom, and you are not the king. Jesus

is the king, so he rules and we live by his rules and he

reigns. Amen. That means what you do with your time and money,

for example, this is actually not really up to you. It shouldn't be

if you're a disciple. So when Jesus said come follow me, he's saying,

leave your current or all way of life and join me and learn this

new way of life called the Kingdom of God while you're on earth. Amen.

And the words that he used was not saying praise, sit on the

chair, appear. He said practice. He used to word practice and used

the word way all over the Gospels over fifty times. Every time he describes

discipleship and follow me, he's using these words practice, way. And the

word way in the Greek is hold us. Hold Us is at word picture.

Okay, it means a way. It's like a road, a travel

way, a journey, or metaphorically it's a cause of conduct. See,

Jesus is inviting us to leave a new live a new way, and it's

also a way of a new way of thinking and feeling and deciding. The

word holders actually means road, but Jesus used the word metaphorically. Remember their

figurative meanings towards how do you get from arada manstrat tou subang. There is

a road, there's a particular way to get there, but you use this

road and you get there. So Jesus is saying, discipleship is literally a

process. You are not going to get it within your first one year of

Christianity because it takes practice. But you must stay on this way, stay

on this lane, stay on this path, and keep going the right direction,

and you keep practicing. Amen, everybody, Okay, so far so

it's a word hold us, when Jesus come follow me. It's the words

hold us, and it's a word picture this. He's referring to a new

way of life that you and I must follow in order to apprentice under Jesus

into what he calls the Kingdom of God. Amen, this way of life,

this way of life of a disciple, takes practice. If there's no

other reason you can think of to come to a gathering like a church or

a gigi or anything. Because we've heard it for a long time now,

that you know, going to church doesn't mean you're a Christian. Going to

stop up, That doesn't make you a lot You're going to make Donald don't

big man. Yeah, I get it, I get it. I don't

even come to church just for like some ten com moments reason. It's just

simply a it's practical. It makes sense because the way Jesus asked me to

live I need to practice. There's no way I can learn how to forgive

on another deal with conflicts unless there are other people that actually offends me and

insults me and stuff like that. I'm saying, this way of life takes

practice, and this practice is to be done in community. The way Jesus

showed us, he didn't pick one disciple, he picked twelve. Amen.

And by the way, everything has meaning. You know, there's usually a

group of disciples. And by the way, it's not just Jesus. Jesus

was not the only rabbi walking around on Jewish grounds those days. Before Jesus,

there were already rabbis. And rabbis usually have a group of students,

and usually a mono girl students. There's usually an older one. Peter was

the old one in the Jesus group. He's the only one who's married God

in law. He never mentionges why you need mention in law. So you

get it. You can want it at all. You got wife, and

the rest of the disciples were teenagers pretty much pretty much. Uh So there's

always see you can see the practicality the way you just set it up.

There's always a group community, there's always older ones to help the younger ones

and stuff like that. Well, we'll explore it further. Now. This

way all that takes practice. The word practice should suggest to you this Christian

life not about perfection in the way we think when the Bible uses the word

perfection is about maturity, not excellence. It is maturity. So since discipleship

is a process and it takes practice, the expectation is not that you be

perfect as soon as possible. But the expectation is this that we are persistent

and consistent. If we get off the road a little bit, it's okay,

we come back on the road, because it's about persisting on the path

and remain consistent. If you get off the path and go some other path,

that's where you go wrong. But if you're not perfect, sometimes I

all here somethings. I thought, that's okay. Jesus already assumed that.

Amen, the Sermon on the Mount Matthew five six. Many scholars, Christians

for us, for many decades now have been arguing, is this even a

realistic way of Can people live like that? Hah? You slap me on

the left, at least slapt me on the writer? Really can we live

like that? It sounds too perfect, too good to be true. But

if you read the Gospels carefully, Jesus actually suggests that this life, yeah,

I know, is high standard, but if you practice, you can

make it. He already assumes when he preached it her saying you must get

it right tomorrow. I'm saying this is something you will have to practice the

rest of your life, Amen, similar amount that that great life is just

inviting us to practice. He will get it wrong sometimes, but stay persistent,

Stay consistent, Amen. Hence the term practicing the way we are practicing

the ways of Jesus. That's discipleship. Nobody here whatever one day richa,

Okay, I'm not fifty five years old, I'm a disciple of Jesus.

Done. That's not possible. For the rest of your life. You will

be in this practice, You'll be on this journey and as long as you

stay on a journey, you are good. Amen. So what's this process

called is the process of becoming like Jesus. Amen. So Jesus is the

way, right, and discipleship is what following Jesus the way. Therefore,

discipleship is following the way, and following is a process, is not an

event. It's not a destination. It's not a destiny, and it takes

practice. Every day you're practicing and becoming better and better at it. Therefore,

following Jesus is practicing the way or being an apprentice to Jesus, and

practicing the way is the process of becoming like Jesus. So discipleship is the

processing Jesus. Hope, I'm not confusing you, but let me give it

to you in a picture of form. I told you it's not linear,

right. So Jesus is the way, that's the call, and the whole

process is following the way, practicing the way, and that call being an

apprentice. Underlining it is this is whole process. Okay, let me show

you this, shret you this way. So Jesus is the way, is

the call? Right? Who are we following, who are trying trying to

become what is this whole thing? Jesus, he is the way, he

sees the head at the heart of it. But what we're doing with our

lives is we're trying to It's the process of becoming more like Jesus. Yes,

and it's also known as apprentice to Jesus. Yes. And what we're

doing is following, a practicing the way. It's three D. It's not

like if you do this, then your dam It's all happening. It's all

happening. And Jesus being the Way is in the very center of it,

in the very heart of it. Jesus is at the heart of what we're

trying to do and what we're trying to do. Oh, we're following,

we're practicing. Yeah, at the same time we are being his apprentice.

We're learning his skills and what he does. Yeah, it's it's a process.

It won't happen tomorrow, it won't be complete in twenty year's time.

Amen. This whole thing is a process. This whole thing is practice.

It's all one, it's three D. It's all happening at the same time.

I'm on a process. My wife irritates me, and I forgive.

Yesterday I didn't do so well. Today I do better. Yesterday I shot

better. Today I let her show me I know, and we kiss and

makeup. And it's a process all And why do I do that? Why?

Why? Why? Yesterday I shouted by her? And today I say

sorry because Jesus is at the call. He taught me that we must forgive.

It's all happening at the same time. I didn't sand yesterday because ILL

tell her yesterday, I know no more, no more Christian, and I

have to start from step one again. It's treatier. So Jesus says I

am the way. In fact, when he said I am the way,

it's the word us. He said, I am that path. I'm that

road you want to get to Malacca. I am the way. I the

way, the truth and the life. No one comes to their father,

No one becomes like the image you were created to become, and then you

lost it when you sinned. No one does that except through me. I

will show you how. So Jesus applied the word us hold us to himself.

So when he said follow me, and he said I'm the way,

he's saying I'm this is discipleship is follow me? And did you know that

followers of Jesus were subsequently called hotocytes in other words, Rody's the rod people.

Yeah, the way people are those of the way. This will if

if we live thousand years ago, we will not be called Christians. We

will be called Rody's. Oh you are the people of the way. Huh,

you know what I'm saying. In fact, it's what they describe themselves.

The word Christian came later, the wrore Christian came later, and it

is a word given by other people who are not Christians, who called those

Christians Christians. But the disciples, then I am of the way. I'm

already I followed the word that Jesus walked. Amen, these are some examples

of the disciples calling themselves by this term. And asked him for letters to

the synagogue. I don't ask us so that if he found any belonging to

the Way, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem.

Paul, But this I confess to you that according to the way, which

they call a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, building everything

laid down by the law and return in the prophets. So thousands years ago,

when there was no twelve Steps to discipleship, and there's no this program

and the program and this Bible study. I'm not saying those things are wrong

now. I'm just saying somewhere along the way pan unintended, Maybe, just

maybe those of us who are called Christians today have lost the way unintended again,

when originally the people who follow Jesus who go to church are known as

people who lived that way, that new way of life called the Kingdom of

God. You know what I'm saying, the way, So holdos. You

know it's also used in the Book of Acts four separate times to refer to

the church jesus early followers called the followers of the Way. So disciples follow

us versus Christian what's the difference? What's the difference? Let's go quickly.

Yeah, Christian is barely used in a New Testament, only three times,

Disciples two hundred and sixty eight times. It's generally a negative words. It's

a it's a slur, it's like an insult. I don't have to give

examples because I don't know who off an if I give examples, But you

know, you know, slurs, la insults, Christian itself literally means medimas

Siah, little Christ. It's people trying to insult those days. People following

and say, ay, you're trying to be like godlah. So Christians those

days don't actually call himself Christians because it was an insulting word. It was

later on in church history. After a while they realize, actually, you

all are. That's what we want to be. We want to be a

small versus of Christ. We want to be like Christ. So Christian,

after all, it's not that bad word. It's a beautiful word. It's

just that the word Christian now has so many different meanings, not all are

good, and even among Christians, the word Christian may not necessarily mean what

Jesus meant. So that's why we are doing this series. This series is

not to say don't use the word Christian from now all. We're gonna call

thesecipots of generations. No, no, no, that it's okay. Just

this understand where the him from originally, when Jesus said follow me, and

people who say yes to him, when they say yes, they're saying what

no, Jesus, I will now live like you live. So if people

slept you on the left and you let them sleep you on the right.

I'll do that too, That's what I'll do. Amen. Okay, let's

move on. So unlike Christian Disciples, you sixty eight times a new Testament.

But there's a gap between cultural Christianity system Now culture Christianity. Christian Christianity

is just a culture. It's just a way of life by a growth of

people, and it may not mean what Jesus meant. So there is a

gap between cultural Christianity meaning people who identify as a Christian. Now, there's

there's no there's no greater than someone's saying these days are I identify as a

chair? Because this this brings new meaning now because we live in a day

it is where someone can actually say, I identify as a cat. Yes,

we have read stories, real stories in America. Some girl or some

girl I can I can't remember, identify as blind, perfectly has perfect side,

but identify as blind. So ask the friend to pour poison as it

on his eyes. And someone else identify as a lame perfect legs, but

sits around the wheelchair all the time because I'm lame. I am lame.

So if you see from that light right, like, really, what's the

big deal if you identify as Christian, because the real challenge is discipleship.

A Christian is not necessarily a disciple, but a disciple is necessarily a Christian.

Here's the real challenge, right, Jesus called the discipleship is more than

just conversion. And I want to be careful. I'm not saying our conversion

is not important. The moment where you say I want to follow, it's

all important. But look, so there's a gap. Historical and cultural shifts

have led to a version of Christianity where the discipleship is optional, and so

it's created a two tier church with many identifying as Christians but not living the

way as disciples. And this gap is partly due and I'm a fault too

because I've done it partly due to the way the Gospel has been presented.

We say things like being a Christian is easy, It's easy to follow Christ

Again, it has to have context. It's easy because Jesus down the cross.

Sure, but it's hardly easy. Like I mean, you have to

do things. I forgive your wife every day. You have to do things

I tell the truth, you do do things like sevis Nah, No,

it's it's it's partly due over centuries how the gospel is presented, and once

upon a time, I think, because people are not comforting fast enough,

eventually said to have rallies and there were mass conversions. So hundreds of people

get saved at the one time, which is a good thing, but it

created a new problem how to disciple. So don't look, just don't look,

or oh, we know what since five hundred you got safe. I

can't discapple you one, you know what, come up with a manual.

We come with a mini book or something and hand you all one book.

And then so over time this becomes a classroom, a book or like you

know, you know, you know what easier you just follow Mela. Whatever

I do, you do, Okay, whatever I whatever I wear, you

wear, whatever I eat, you eat. This is we had no pople

Christians. He had no choice because people were getting saved by the thousands and

no time to figure out how. So we created this, We maybe unintentionally

created this cultural Christianity. Just get safe coming to the church membership. You

look, hed feel look, had come on, wear this T shirt.

And it's not that we intended it. It's just more and more true discipleship

gets behind the mind further and further, and after a while we can't tell

the difference anymore. We think the version we have is disciple shaped. When

Jesus saying, no, it's a new way, completely different way of life

called the King of God, and I am the way. No I Jesus,

Amen, so Christian. The word Christian is generally is like someone who

is who goes to church, sing some songs, give money. But a

disciple is so much more than that. Amen. Jesus is not calling us

to be come more like the church or more like the culture, but more

like Christ, you know, in Malaysia to have his text like this.

But in America of people identify themselves as Christians and again identify it's such a

such a loser these days that identify as a flag. Therefore I am a

flag. Respect me whatever, Raise me up. Okay, of America identify

as Christians. But if they study their lives, only four percent measure up

to the life of a disciple gap seventy four percent. The word gets saved,

gets safe. It's not a bad word, it's not, but it's

just not how Jesus and the Bible writers thought it was. Language never used

by Jesus or the New Testament writers, because they don't think of salvation solely

in the past tense get saved, I'm saved now. What you will not

hear Paul say I got saved on the road to Damascus. Why he just

doesn't think that way. So the words doesn't come out that way. You

can saying it just doesn't in Paul's mind. Salvation is wider than just that

one occasion. Salvation isn't just a one off event. It's not thought off

in the past tense. Salvation is both a starting point and an ongoing reality

and process. We are saved and being saved or some I use the word

scentified, or it might use a more normal day to day word practice.

Once you're safe, you keep practicing what saved means. There's a scripture?

Why would that says this? Therefore, my believer, as you have always

obeyed, So now, not only as in my presence, but much more

in my absence, work out your own salvation. Have you ever been to

a gym to work out? I mean you can only work out what's already

there. For example, if some strange reason you lost a hand or something,

you lost a limb, left hand. You can go through the gym

and work out a left limb. You can't work it's gone. You can

work out a muscle that's there and you make it stronger. You must have

salvation. Then you work that out like a muscle and make it stronger.

That's discipleship. Amen. It's unfortunately over time there's this two tier church.

Christians not necessary disciples, but then their disciples who are necessary Christians. Now

it's not better or worse. It's not like, oh, in this if

fifty percent of you are not disciples are, then you are bad. You're

the lesser Christian. It's it's not that you still get a heaven. I

think conservation is purely based on the grace of God. Whether you do don't

do it doesn't matter. But you're missing out on this earth and missing out

if we don't live as a disciple. Have you read C. S.

Lewis the screw Tip letters. Screwtape is the master demon, and then there's

a worm would, which is that the apprentice demon, and Screwtape is trying

to train worm Wood in the art of human deception. And there's this part

where he wrote this letter to one Win and said there one would there is

no because a lot of people were getting saved. Worm Wood was getting worried.

So he wrote the woman and said, there's no need to despair.

Hundreds of these adult converts have been reclaimed after after a brief surgeon in the

enemies camp, and are now with us. All the habits of the patient

the Christian, both mental and bodily, are still in our favor. In

other words, so what if they're converted, Their habits are still the same.

So what if they have a new identity now, They still behave the

same So, dear demon, don't worry. All their habits are still in

our favor. Dangerous So it's important that we don't just have a cognitive informational

knowledge superficial change. It's like changing your name or even your religion in your

ic. You put it in it says Christian, but lifestyle is still the

same. See if we get salvation wrong, you get the Gospel of Jesus

wrong, then we get discappleship wrong, or we just don't get it at

all. This is pretty important. This is very important. Of course,

we don't throw away the baby out with the bath water. Conversion is good.

We all can remember our conversion moment. How God touched us, how

God moved our hearts, how God draw drew us to him. That's very

beautiful and important. But that's discipleship in itself. Amen. Discipleship is new

life. Salvation is the beginning of this new life that Jesus called us.

Two. Amen, there's the metaphor that the Gospel of John us us.

Every time he talks about salvation, it's life. Jesus calls it life.

Not being safe, he calls it life. Being born again or born from

a work is the beginning of a whole new life cycle of becoming a whole

new person over decades and decades, every day we're being this new person.

That's discipleship. Amen. So question, are we truly accepting Jesus's invitation and

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