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Bible Questions & Answers (Q&A) Session (2) | Pastor Daniel Batarseh

Bible Study with Pr. Daniel Batarseh | Verse by Verse Series | Maranatha Bible Church - Chicago

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  1. So as you know, we're doing a Q&A and I'm going to hand it off

  2. to Mark. But before we do that, maybe we

  3. should pray. Ask the Lord to help us if you'd

  4. like to pray for us, Sure. Father, we thank you for

  5. blessing us with this time. Lord, what a privilege it is to

  6. gather. Here is blood bought Saints to

  7. dive into your word, to know you better through your word.

  8. To live as Christians through your word.

  9. Lord, may you enlighten our eyes, enlighten our minds and

  10. our hearts as we answer and talk about these sometimes difficult

  11. questions. Lord, it may propel us to

  12. greater faithfulness and greater love toward you.

  13. In Jesus name. Amen.

  14. Amen. All right.

  15. Well, we have a few questions here I'm excited to, really.

  16. Just talk about them a little bit tonight.

  17. There's some very practical questions, there's some

  18. theological questions in there. But what I love about these

  19. questions that you all submitted, it's really it's it's

  20. not a stump, the pastor type of questions.

  21. It's these are real questions that are on people's minds

  22. wanting to know what the word of God says about some hard to

  23. understand issues. And you know, I was reflecting

  24. on it earlier today and you know in Peter second Peter where he

  25. says that you know things that Paul says in the New Testament.

  26. Hard to understand sometimes, right.

  27. But ultimately, and I love how Peter ends that he says even

  28. though these things are hard to understand, even though there's

  29. some people out there who will misuse and abuse these difficult

  30. scriptures to to bring doubt into your minds.

  31. Peter ends this with, then ends that passage with this.

  32. He he prays for them, and he says that he hopes they.

  33. Grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus

  34. Christ. To him be the glory both now and

  35. to the day of eternity. Amen.

  36. Amen. And so that's that's really why

  37. I'm excited to really dive into these questions today.

  38. So let's start, you know, as Christians.

  39. Daniel, it's. We we live in a society where

  40. all around us, the unbelieving world, there's conflicts,

  41. there's arguments, there's just backbiting and hatred and

  42. spitefulness. But as Christians, in a

  43. Christian community of believers, not only in the local

  44. church but in the wider Christian communities, we have

  45. to be different from the world. But as Christians, we still

  46. have. Sin.

  47. We still have disagreements, We still have conflict.

  48. So how do we as Christians confront a brother or sister in

  49. Christ when that brother and or sister is in sin?

  50. Yeah, that's a huge question because when you look at Jesus's

  51. instructions about the church, there are only two places in the

  52. entire Gospels where Jesus refers to the church directly

  53. and clearly. Both are found in the Gospel of

  54. Matthew and Matthew 16, where the revelation that Peter has

  55. concerning Christ Jesus refers to the church being built upon

  56. that revelation. And then in Matthew 18 where

  57. Jesus instructs believers how to deal with a sinning believer and

  58. he refers to the church in those set of instructions.

  59. Now here's what I find so significant about that the the

  60. fact that Jesus, out of all the things you could have said about

  61. the function of the church, the one thing that he wanted to

  62. touch on was that the purpose of the church in the believer's

  63. life is that there would be a mutual operation of

  64. accountability. Think about that when you and I

  65. become followers of Jesus Christ and are joined to, yes, the

  66. universal church, but the universal church express in the

  67. local settings, the primary. One of the primary reasons for

  68. that is that we would open our lives up to other Christians to

  69. speak into our lives and also setting ourselves up to be ready

  70. to respectfully restore brother or sister if they've fallen into

  71. sin. I don't think that's how many

  72. believers view the local church. I don't think that's how how

  73. many people view their relationship with other

  74. believers. That one of the top reasons for

  75. Christ bringing us together is that we would have an eye out

  76. for one another and what that looks like.

  77. Once we've established that once we realized the the great call

  78. that Christ has given us concerning what the church

  79. should function as, we have to then ask how do we do that

  80. right? And that really depends on a

  81. case by case situation. It would depend on the nature of

  82. the sin. It would depend on the setting

  83. of where that sin perhaps was committed.

  84. For example, you look at Paul with Cephas and Antioch.

  85. Peter is acting hypocritically and he caused other Jewish

  86. believers to also follow in his example to treat the Gentiles as

  87. lesser than. And So what does Paul do?

  88. It says there he spoke before them all and he confronts Peter

  89. to his face. That's not a rule for all of us

  90. to call out a believer and sin in front of everybody because

  91. you go back to what the actual rules are in Jesus says of a

  92. brother sins, you go to him privately.

  93. And so we know if you read Matthew 1815 down, you see the

  94. protocol given to believers. And yet even though the protocol

  95. is there, there's still a call for wisdom.

  96. And that wisdom is our attitude towards other believers.

  97. And I would say the best way in dealing with people, especially

  98. if they are caught in sin or they've offended you, is to do

  99. so in a way in which you would like to be approached if you

  100. were caught in sin. Whether that sin is intentional

  101. or not. We have to also remember, when

  102. people are in sin, sometimes they're not doing so

  103. intentionally. Maybe they're operating with a

  104. lesser revelation than you are. Maybe they're immature in the

  105. faith. So you always have to put

  106. yourself in their shoes. And more than that, Galatian

  107. speaks about a spirit of gentleness.

  108. And so with that, I believe there is a necessity to approach

  109. a brother. And here's here's my preference

  110. in doing that, to ask a lot of questions.

  111. So approach a believer, asking questions, not coming with

  112. evidence and then saying, you know you did this, this is, this

  113. is your fault. Or whatever the case may be,

  114. what you want to do is you want to love hopes for all things,

  115. right? It hopes for the best.

  116. And so you want to give them a chance to explain themselves.

  117. You want to also give them the chance to be honest and to

  118. confess that sin. And so the aim of our

  119. confrontation is not to demean or discourage, but always to

  120. restore. And even in the confrontation

  121. stage, you want to win that brother or that sister.

  122. You don't want to destroy them, and you don't want to push them

  123. off or give them the impression that you're not for them.

  124. Again with that, because Jesus also said that he was gentle and

  125. lonely, there are moments and there are settings where a

  126. strong word needs to be given that serious rebuke needs to be

  127. offered. That doesn't exclude those

  128. potential confrontations, but we just need to be wise and we need

  129. to consider the different facets of the circumstance in the

  130. situation. Always with the goal that I want

  131. to redeem this brother. I want to see this sister.

  132. Come back to the faith, come back to the will of God, come

  133. back to honoring the Lord in their lives.

  134. And so the way I've done it, and I've the way I've seen other

  135. people do it effectively is, hey, I you did this.

  136. And I don't know if you, I don't know if you meant it when you

  137. said it, but it it did hurt me. And I just want to ask, you

  138. know, do you have a reason behind what you said or what you

  139. didn't say? You didn't include me in this.

  140. You didn't ask questions because they could be operating under

  141. ignorance. They could have done something

  142. due to a blind spot. That's not how we feel when

  143. we're offended. We always almost assumed that

  144. they did it to intentionally hurt us.

  145. And that's just one scenario. There's different, again,

  146. scenarios that we have to consider, but I think as a

  147. general rule, ask questions, come in gentleness and always

  148. put yourself in their shoes. If if you were caught in

  149. something, how would you want to be approached?

  150. It's wonderful what what do you do, though, if you confront

  151. someone and they're like I I didn't do anything wrong.

  152. Or I did this. Not a big deal.

  153. I don't understand what what? What's the big deal?

  154. Like if you have a confronting somebody and they just, there's

  155. no repentance, there's no remorse.

  156. What do you do then, as a Christian?

  157. That's a great question. Well then, Jesus provides the

  158. answer. Bring two or three other

  159. brothers. Let them begin to feel how

  160. serious this is, bringing other witnesses to testify that this

  161. is indeed a sin. And then if they still resist

  162. and they still or repeat that sin and the repentance is

  163. shallow and not true, then it comes to the point where Jesus

  164. says, then you have to treat them in a certain way.

  165. You have to treat them as a tax collector.

  166. You have to treat them as a gentile.

  167. In other words, you have to treat them as somebody who is

  168. not part of the community of faith.

  169. And at that point they forfeit certain relational privileges in

  170. order for them to realize that there are consequences to a lack

  171. of repentance. And so again, the to approach

  172. somebody in their sin in the name of gentleness and kindness

  173. and respect does not disqualify the need to bring in a more

  174. serious approach if it requires it.

  175. So I would say that Jesus had that in mind when he gave those

  176. instructions. Somebody dismisses it or says

  177. that's just my personality, you're too sensitive, OK?

  178. Now you bring this before 2-3 other witnesses, and if it's

  179. legitimate, they'll agree with you.

  180. And then this person that has to deal with other believers who

  181. are confronting them. What are they going to do then?

  182. And the whole point of that process that Jesus gives us is

  183. to keep the the sin issue of a person's A person's fallen is as

  184. private as possible and to and to allow them to be in an

  185. honorable way come to their senses before it becomes more

  186. public. And if it deserves a more public

  187. approach, then that's because of their unwillingness to

  188. ultimately repent. Thank you.

  189. Last followup question, because you know you you hear this a

  190. lot, especially in the in the wider Christian community,

  191. unfortunately nowadays are there do you think there are any

  192. situations where Matthew 18 would not apply, where you are

  193. not called to go one-on-one with the person who is sitting

  194. against you? Absolutely.

  195. I love that followup question because Paul exercises that with

  196. the brother in the Church of Corinth who was sinning with his

  197. father's wife. And the church knew about it.

  198. And Paul skips all those steps and he says get him out of

  199. there, get him out of there, he needs to go.

  200. And the reason why he says that is because it was a public sin.

  201. The church indirectly affirmed it and tolerated it.

  202. And so there was no need to go through that protocol.

  203. And so it's not this black and white thing.

  204. There are Gray areas. There are different situations

  205. that demand different responses and there is license for that.

  206. So absolutely depends on the nature of this and the

  207. circumstances, situation, situation.

  208. If a leader sins, there's a different approach than if a

  209. believer in the congregation a member sins.

  210. So yeah, we can't just, we can't just take Matthew 18 and apply

  211. it to every single case. That might be unwise.

  212. And that's why there's always a call to wisdom concerning the

  213. nature of send the severity of it, how public is it, how

  214. dangerous it is. All those things need to be put

  215. into Factor, yeah. Great, Okay.

  216. Let's move on to the next one. You know, many churches preach

  217. primarily from the New Testament and to the neglect of the Old

  218. Testament, whether it's Sunday morning, Sunday evening, other

  219. Bible study times. In fact, you do have some well

  220. regarded or at least well known Christian leaders nowadays.

  221. I'm thinking of Andy Stanley large church in Georgia, North

  222. Point, who's on record as saying that Christians need to uncouple

  223. themselves from the Old Testament.

  224. What would you say to that? And and can we apply all of the

  225. Old Testament to us as New Testament believers?

  226. And how do we know what's and what not to apply if we don't

  227. apply all the Old Testament? Yeah, it's unfortunate that many

  228. people, whether they like the situation you brought up, this

  229. is one of this, assisted themselves theologically with

  230. the Old Testament. Or those who are intimidated by

  231. the Old Testament and don't see the value of it choose not to

  232. teach on and expound on it. At the same time, there is

  233. concern because we realize we are in a new covenant.

  234. So how does the old covenant apply to us?

  235. And that's a vital question. That's an important question.

  236. I understand the the reasoning behind that.

  237. What we have to understand is even in the New Testament, we're

  238. told in Romans 15 believe verse four told in First Corinthians

  239. 10. Believe verse 6 and verse 11,

  240. that there is encouragement and instruction found in these Old

  241. Testament stories. And even in these laws and and

  242. these Psalms, there is value for our personal encouragement.

  243. And so people kind of look down upon those who go to the story

  244. of David and the story of Joseph and what they tend to say in

  245. defense of Christ being. The theme of the Bible is you

  246. can't put yourself in that story with Joseph.

  247. You can't put yourself in that story of David.

  248. And I get that you can stretch these stories to make it about

  249. you and not make it about God's glory.

  250. At the same time, Paul tells me I can go there for

  251. encouragement. I can go to how God dealt with

  252. Joseph's life with his perfect, sovereign, providential plan and

  253. believe the same for my life. I can look at David's faith and

  254. say, yeah, God honors faith and there is instruction and value.

  255. They're concerning my faith with the lens of the New Testament,

  256. of course. So it's a it's it's an

  257. unfortunate thing to hear people speak like that.

  258. I know their hearts are in the right place and that they want

  259. to defend the glory of Christ being the theme and the golden

  260. thread from beginning to end. But there is nothing

  261. illegitimate with me and for you for anybody else to go to the

  262. Old Testament with the boundaries of the New Testament

  263. to see how these things apply to me.

  264. In fact, the Old Testament is the best illustration book for

  265. New Testament principles. However, I get the again, back

  266. to the original question, I get the argument of well, we're in

  267. the New covenant, so how do we know what of the Old Testament?

  268. Maybe ceremonial laws, rituals, feast.

  269. How do we know what transfers over and what is obsolete?

  270. Or what has ceased to be applicable?

  271. And there are two places that help me when I look at that

  272. question. One is an Isaiah 42.

  273. You're told they're in the first few verses, a prophecy

  274. concerning the Messiah to come and and in the first few verses

  275. we are told that the Coast lands will wait for His law.

  276. That's an interesting phrase that as the Messiah comes, the

  277. gentile nations themselves are awaiting a law to come from him.

  278. When you go to Hebrews 7, the author of Hebrews is arguing how

  279. the priesthood of Melchizedek is superior to the priesthood of

  280. Aaron. And he says something in that

  281. chapter, verse 12 I believe, where he mentions that if there

  282. is a new priesthood, then automatically that assumes that

  283. there is going to be a new law. What does that mean?

  284. What that means is that in the new covenant you have in a sense

  285. a law within that covenant, a new way of approaching worship,

  286. approaching sanctification, approaching our relationship

  287. with the Lord. And Christ brought that in.

  288. Not that he dismissed the Old covenant, He was the fulfillment

  289. of it. But he brought about the true

  290. substance of the Old Testament, and that's what we would call

  291. the law of Christ. So how do I identify the law of

  292. Christ in the New Covenant? I think the best way to do is to

  293. read the New Covenant, read the Gospels, read the epistles, the

  294. apostles who were given authority, and the promise by

  295. Christ that the Spirit would come and he would reveal

  296. everything that the Christ would want him to know and expound

  297. upon his teachings. Because at that time, they

  298. weren't ready to receive all that Christ wanted them to know.

  299. And what you'll see as you study the new covenant is that there

  300. is some overlap with the Old Covenant, and there are some

  301. things that don't apply anymore. So people often ask about the

  302. Sabbath, right? They look at the 10 commandments

  303. and they'll see that nine of those commandments resurface in

  304. the New Covenant. But the the Sabbath, as the Jews

  305. observed, is not necessarily repeated.

  306. It's not emphasized as a teaching, as a practice for the

  307. church. Well, why is that?

  308. Because Christ is the Sabbath. Hebrews 4.

  309. He fulfilled that, but at the same time, there's a universal

  310. moral code that still applies in the New Covenant.

  311. So the best way to know what applies to me and what doesn't

  312. is to simply study the New Covenant.

  313. Realize that there was a law, there was a law from them aside

  314. that was anticipated, and that is what we are under.

  315. That is what we are subject to. And then that that way you can

  316. properly interpret the Old Covenant.

  317. So I we know of a brother who's not here, but he loves the Lord,

  318. and I trust that he's still walking with the Lord.

  319. When he first got saved, he didn't have that revelation.

  320. And so when he approached the Old Testament thinking, well,

  321. I'm supposed to read this from cover to cover, he looked at

  322. some of those levitical laws concerning how men should dress

  323. and how they should not shave, that the ends of their the size

  324. of their beards. And he thought, okay, well,

  325. that's what I got to do as a Christian.

  326. I got to not shave here and dress this way.

  327. And a wise believer approached him and says, no, that doesn't

  328. apply. You know, that's not binding on

  329. us. And so that's the simplest

  330. answer, I think. Just consider the law of Christ.

  331. And that is what we are called to observe, yeah.

  332. Great. Love to spend more time on that

  333. one. Yeah, you know, unfortunately we

  334. have to move on. Next question.

  335. This is a good one. Some teach that Jesus went to

  336. hell after he died and before his resurrection.

  337. Where was Jesus during that interval?

  338. That is a good question, and the only place where we are given

  339. clear insight concerning that period of time between his death

  340. and his resurrection, I believe, is first Peter Three.

  341. That's the clearest place. And when you go to first Peter

  342. three, you get one idea of what took place during Silent

  343. Saturday, as some like to describe it.

  344. He says this in verse 19. Well, I can read from verse

  345. 18th. For Christ also suffered once

  346. for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring

  347. us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the

  348. spirit in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in

  349. prison, because they formerly did not obey.

  350. When God's patience waited in the days of Noah while the ark

  351. was being prepared, in which a few, that is 8 persons, were

  352. brought safely through water. So there isn't much given

  353. concerning that time and where we are given little, we have to

  354. say little not go beyond what is written.

  355. But based on this, what we can say is that Jesus in the spirit

  356. went to a particular spiritual place and he proclaimed a

  357. message to certain spirits who were imprisoned, obviously in

  358. prison for many, many, many years.

  359. And we're, we're told specifically since the days of

  360. Noah and for a specific sin or series of sin during that time

  361. of Noah. And so these are commonly

  362. believed to be demon spirits who had a great influence upon the

  363. generation of Noah. And there's debate about the

  364. extent of their influence and how they interacted with the

  365. sons of of of men. But what's Jesus here doing,

  366. proclaiming to these spirits who are incarcerated and imprisoned

  367. until judgment? Right?

  368. Based on this, we can make the case and in other places, that

  369. there are some demons who are held captive until the day of

  370. judgment, and there are other demons who are that loose on the

  371. earth, obviously under God's sovereign will for them to do

  372. their bidding. But at this time, Jesus comes

  373. into this holding place and he preaches he doesn't preach the

  374. gospel. He's not evangelizing these

  375. spirits, but what he is doing is that he is making a triumphant

  376. declaration. That's what Christ is doing.

  377. And so there could be even the possibility that these spirits

  378. rejoiced at the site of the death of the Son of God, that

  379. that they probably thought, okay, we did it.

  380. We we were able to overthrow prophecy.

  381. We were able to conquer the plan of salvation.

  382. And who comes in? Jesus Christ declaring his

  383. victory, declaring his vicarious death, his triumphant success

  384. over the grave? I would, I would love to have

  385. seen those spirits faces. And so all this is saying is

  386. that Jesus really came to declare his victory.

  387. And one thing's for certain, he didn't go to hell to suffer for

  388. our sins. He didn't.

  389. He didn't do anything because it was finished on the cross.

  390. It was finished at the cross. He he drank every drop of that

  391. cup. And so all he's doing here is

  392. letting people know that he did do that, letting specific

  393. spirits know, and even the ascension is a declaration of

  394. that. I I'm looking forward to

  395. preaching one day purely on the ascension of Jesus Christ.

  396. We often hear about his, his, his incarnation.

  397. We hear about His crucifixion. We hear about His resurrection,

  398. but very little is mentioned about His ascension.

  399. There is a message with that ascension.

  400. There's a reason why He bodily went up into the clouds, and the

  401. and the reason behind that is deeper than we would think.

  402. So you have to come to that sermon.

  403. I'm not going to share it. Why now?

  404. So looking at the Apostles Creed where it says that Jesus was

  405. crucified, dead and buried, descended into the hell on 3rd

  406. day rose again, would you say Christians should?

  407. Not or should say that if they are saying the Apostles Creed

  408. because some churches say the Apostles Creed is part of their

  409. liturgy, the word hell, is that the the point that you're

  410. bringing up? Yes.

  411. Yeah that's a translation issue more than anything else.

  412. So especially with older translations you'll see the word

  413. hell used. But in the original it's really

  414. referring to Hades the grave she Ole.

  415. And so that comes really to a translation issue, if if what

  416. they mean by Hell is what we see in Revelation 20 and where the

  417. lake of fire will be created, where death in Hades will be

  418. thrown into, and everybody whose name's not written in the book

  419. of life. And yes, don't use that word.

  420. Jesus didn't enter into Hell in that case, but he did enter into

  421. the underworld as we see here. And he did declare triumphantly

  422. how he conquered not just death, but Satan himself.

  423. So just be careful with your terminology, whether it's a

  424. creed or averse, concerning your translation, and just make sure

  425. that you're not confused or people hearing it are confused.

  426. Great. All right.

  427. The next question, you know, in in many Christian colleges, it

  428. was the case when I was in Christian college, and it's

  429. certainly the case now. You still have you do have

  430. people say legitimately I think sometimes, sometimes not

  431. legitimately. A guy goes up to a girl, is most

  432. often the case, and says God told me to marry you.

  433. It happens probably not the wisest thing to say sometimes,

  434. but should Christians? And I don't know if this is a

  435. man or a woman asking this question, but so should I wait

  436. for a prophetic word to tell me who to marry?

  437. There's a common joke. I've said it before, so I

  438. apologize if you heard it before, but if you haven't I'll

  439. I'll share it anyway. About this woman who was at a

  440. conference and after a few days a man approaches this woman,

  441. obviously attracted, drawn to her, and says that very thing.

  442. He says, The Lord told me that you're supposed to be my wife

  443. and the woman gently looked at him.

  444. He says really says yes, and she says, did the Lord tell that to

  445. my husband? So should you wait for a

  446. prophetic word to tell you who to marry?

  447. No, absolutely not. You should not wait for a

  448. prophetic word because there's no instruction for that in the

  449. Bible when it comes to selecting a spouse.

  450. Let me broaden it. I think a lot of Christians even

  451. fall into the trap of waiting for any supernatural sign to

  452. indicate to them that somebody is a potential candidate or is

  453. supposed to be your spouse, because again, there is no

  454. scriptural mandate or even invitation to do that.

  455. Now I know how some people feel like, Are you saying that you

  456. shouldn't pray for God to reveal who that person should be?

  457. Absolutely not. You should.

  458. There's anything to pray the most about Is that more than

  459. your job, more than your car, more than where to move is Lord,

  460. who would you have me marry? Who is the person that you would

  461. have me covenant with? But I'm afraid that as people

  462. are praying for, that they're waiting for something that is

  463. not necessarily something that God has to grant.

  464. Can God supernaturally make something known?

  465. Yeah. Who says that he can't?

  466. Is that the norm? I I say, no, it's not the norm.

  467. And where people tend to go is the story with Isaac and

  468. Rebecca. Genesis 24.

  469. Abraham sends his servant to find a wife for his son Isaac,

  470. and he arrives at a specific well and he seeks the Lord.

  471. And this is what he asked the Lord.

  472. He says, Lord, when a woman comes and if she asked if I want

  473. to drink, let her also ask if she can feed my camels and then

  474. I will know that my trip was in a waste.

  475. And this is the person that you have for my master son.

  476. And people tend to use that and they get very creative in asking

  477. God for signs, right? Lord, when she knocks on my

  478. door, let her wear this. Or Lord, let her order.

  479. That. Or Lord, let her call me at this

  480. time. And so we make very specific

  481. demands and we use Genesis 24 as a license to approach that

  482. decision or that kind of prayer in that way.

  483. But people miss what the Abraham servant even prayed about.

  484. He wasn't asking for a random sign.

  485. Notice what he asked for. He asked that the Lord would

  486. reveal something about this woman's character.

  487. Right, this Lord, I want her to not just do what's obvious and

  488. what's demanded of or what's the social norm.

  489. I want her to go above and beyond.

  490. So Lord, if this woman goes above and beyond, then I'll know

  491. that she's someone special, then I'll know.

  492. So there's something there in principle for us that if you're

  493. going to be asking the Lord for anything, is to open your eyes

  494. to that person's heart, to that person's inner beauty, to that

  495. person's fear of God, to that person's integrity, right.

  496. I think that's how we need to be praying with that.

  497. Don't get me wrong, pray, Lord protect me from the wrong one.

  498. Because Ecclesiastes tells us that there's something worse

  499. than death, and that's a woman whose heart is chains and

  500. fetters, right? In other words, out.

  501. Externally she looks fine, but internally she's a trap.

  502. And he says the Sinner is taken by her, but the one who pleases

  503. God escapes her. And so take that scripture and

  504. bring it before the Lord. But again, that's that's found

  505. in the word of God. Lord, as long as I walk in your

  506. way and your will, as long as I'm honoring you, you promise me

  507. that I will not be in a trap. You won't put me in a

  508. relationship that I'll later be like, what did I get myself

  509. into? You promise me?

  510. You promise here that you will guide me to the right person,

  511. and so open my eyes to the extent in which I can see this

  512. person as a potential partner for life.

  513. And so be careful asking for something so specific that would

  514. delay you or even cause you to miss out on potential candidates

  515. before you. And so, yeah, it breaks my heart

  516. to see people thinking that way that they that in order for them

  517. to find somebody, they need this extravagant, awesome story.

  518. And I get it. But, you know, you want God to

  519. be glorified in that story. But again, I'm afraid that

  520. people romanticize that story. They want this testimony so that

  521. when somebody that says how do you, how do you guys meet?

  522. You can say, oh, let me tell you how we met.

  523. And I remember we studied the book of Ruth when we did that

  524. few years back. And it dawned on me with the

  525. backdrop of Genesis 24 with Isaac and Rebecca, you can say

  526. that that was a supernatural story, right.

  527. It was still an answer to prayer, though the the request

  528. was very, very realistic. You look at Ruth and Boaz's

  529. story and and you don't get any hint of that kind of

  530. intervention. You see Providence.

  531. You see a woman who just wants to obey God, and so she does

  532. what she's called to do as a poor individual.

  533. She goes and she gleans from, you know, the the, the wheat

  534. fields and as she's there, just obeying what she's been given

  535. concerning God's revelation for her life and that season of her

  536. life. There's Boaz in the same field

  537. and they meet and they reflect on the fact that there's a

  538. relationship here so I can actually redeem you.

  539. I I can actually be kinsman Redeemer.

  540. So they go to court and they figure it out and there was a

  541. little bit of an obstacle and they overcame the obstacle and

  542. they got married. That doesn't sound as exciting

  543. as Abraham servant praying and God revealing it.

  544. And then I'm going back to Rebecca's house and sharing that

  545. story and then all be like, wow, this has to be of God.

  546. But is is Boa's and Ruth story any less God's will?

  547. Is there any less of God's leading?

  548. No, it's not. So don't idolize or romanticize

  549. this Disney idea of Prince Charming meeting someone.

  550. Just just trust God's leading and believe that he can lead.

  551. If not, he tends to mostly lead through Providence more than

  552. anything else. OK.

  553. Yeah, I love that I and and just to add on that, I I love how you

  554. said that's normally God works through ordinary means.

  555. That's not to say he doesn't work through supernatural means

  556. like salvation, right? Could God, could Christ appear

  557. visibly to everyone that he is going to say?

  558. Absolutely. But he does it through ordinary

  559. means, through the preaching of God's Word.

  560. And like when you're looking for a spouse, God has given you all

  561. of the means to choose a spouse. Praying.

  562. Seeking the wisdom of the Lord. Reading your Bible right?

  563. You would I I I'm surprised by how many people struggle.

  564. Like, is this person for me? Is this person not for me?

  565. When one's a Christian and one's not a Christian right, it's not

  566. even a question. So we don't need a supernatural

  567. sign for that. And also wisdom from other

  568. believers. I will say that, but go ahead.

  569. Please go. Yeah, especially your parents.

  570. Are your parents believers? What do they think are your

  571. friends? Are your older people in the

  572. church? They're believers.

  573. So get around these people with your potential girlfriend or

  574. boyfriend or future spouse so that they can see they can speak

  575. into your life. They can see this other person

  576. probably clearer than you can because they're not distracted

  577. by. Romance or love or anything like

  578. that. They can see it from a Christian

  579. wise perspective as also someone who cares about you as a brother

  580. or sister in Christ. Absolutely.

  581. And and the council of many, their safety proverb says right.

  582. And whenever it speaks about counselors, it's plural.

  583. So not just even one person, you know, have a few people in your

  584. life that are mature spiritually, that that you know

  585. are for you and love you and that you can open up about and

  586. say this is what this person's like and be honest in your

  587. assessment of that person, Right.

  588. Be honest. This is what this person's like,

  589. you know, their spiritual condition, their actions,

  590. reactions, interactions, be honest so that you can have the

  591. best kind of counsel you can get with the clearest evidence that

  592. you provide. So yeah, it's God has given us

  593. the same Holy Spirit who can speak prophetically is the same

  594. Holy Spirit who says and many counselors.

  595. There is security, right? It's the same Holy Spirit who

  596. says get get around believers who can speak into your life and

  597. guide you and help you see blind spots, right?

  598. Great question. Amen.

  599. I'll end it with this. Learn from Raya Boehm, right?

  600. Don't pick all of your friends, people your own age, people with

  601. the same life experience as you, as your only counselors.

  602. Learn from the wise, the older, the Gray heads around you.

  603. It's really good. Amen.

  604. OK, next question. Why do you baptize in the name

  605. of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit rather than baptizing in

  606. the name of Jesus as the apostles did?

  607. Because Jesus said to Matthew 28 we're commanded by Christ to

  608. baptize in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit.

  609. Where this comes from though is when you read the book of Acts,

  610. you see this habit of the apostles in the early church

  611. baptizing purely and exclusively in the name of Jesus.

  612. And so that has created a trend among some specific

  613. denominations, namely Oneness Pentecostals will apply that

  614. where they will baptize in Jesus name only.

  615. Is this even a big deal? Like what's so important about

  616. that question? And it is a big deal, One,

  617. because it's a command that Jesus gave, right?

  618. And two, there are massive implications in Jesus giving

  619. that specific set of instructions the formula of our

  620. baptism. One, it's it's one of the two

  621. ordinances, right? And two, you are identifying

  622. with something in your baptism. And what Christ is saying there

  623. is very special because he uses the singular noun for name,

  624. doesn't say in the names of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

  625. He says singularly in the name of the Father, Son and Holy

  626. Spirit, which solidifies our belief in our God being triune

  627. right. Muslims will often ask.

  628. They ask a lot of things, but they'll often ask.

  629. Show me where in the Gospels Jesus ever taught the Trinity.

  630. And I always go to that verse. I'll always go to Matthew 28.

  631. I see you tell me what it means to baptize in the name of the

  632. Father, Son and Holy Spirit. What does that mean?

  633. And that pretty much ends the conversation, at least with that

  634. question. And so those who who tend to say

  635. you know you should only baptize in Jesus name because the early

  636. church and the apostles did don't have a trinitarian

  637. conviction. Not all, but most.

  638. So it makes sense why they would use that as an argument.

  639. But it still begs the question, if Jesus commanded it, why do we

  640. not see that more often as a pattern in the New Testament,

  641. namely in in the book of Acts? And I think the reason is

  642. because Jesus Christ himself was rejected as the Messiah, and

  643. especially with the Jewish audience.

  644. The call to be baptized in his name was especially scandalous,

  645. and it reinforced the identity of Christ that demanded their

  646. allegiance to and their surrender to and their

  647. repentance to. And so Jesus being at the

  648. forefront in the call for baptism was important because of

  649. what the nation of Israel had done concerning Jesus, what they

  650. thought about him. And so it was a call to

  651. acknowledge and pledge their allegiance to Christ to him

  652. specifically because of the recent events concerning him.

  653. And so that's the, I think, the best way to explain why they

  654. emphasize Jesus. And it doesn't override what

  655. Christ had commanded. Amen.

  656. Amen. OK.

  657. The next question comes from a sister.

  658. She says, why should I have an open womb instead of using

  659. contraceptives? And I and and I think even

  660. before you start answering contraceptives, I think we

  661. should be very clear on definitions, right?

  662. There's those contraceptives that are abortifacients, Plan B,

  663. other other contraceptives like that.

  664. And then there's other contraceptives that prevent

  665. conception. Right.

  666. Prevent the egg and the sperm joining together.

  667. And there's also other contraceptives that aren't even

  668. medical per se, right? Natural.

  669. Natural contraceptive. So what do you say?

  670. This is controversial. Some people feel very strongly

  671. about this topic and this question.

  672. And so let's just set a foundation and saying that any

  673. kind of contraceptive that would induce an abortion or a

  674. miscarriage is wrong, right? We don't want to kill anything

  675. because we believe that life is at conception.

  676. And so that's out of the question, I think where the

  677. debate is other means that don't necessarily do that, that not

  678. interfering with life necessarily, but interfering

  679. with God's sovereign will in that process.

  680. So here's what I would say. And we have to be careful

  681. because the Bible doesn't explicitly prohibit this,

  682. doesn't give clear instructions about this, and so we have to

  683. operate with wisdom and we have to take the whole council of God

  684. into consideration. Is the idea of family planning

  685. wrong? I would argue no, because if we

  686. use the same line of argumentations that people use

  687. to deny any kind of birth control, I'm I'm talking about

  688. the legitimate ideas, we wouldn't use another facets of

  689. life. So one of the common ideas

  690. concerning this is people would say, well children are a gift of

  691. the Lord, why would you try to stop yourselves from receiving a

  692. gift from him? And I understand that sentiment

  693. and we have to believe that children are gift of of the

  694. Lord. But when we look at, for

  695. example, marriage, we see marriage as a gift as well,

  696. right? Is it not?

  697. He finds a wife, finds a good thing and obtains favor from the

  698. Lord. But just because that in itself

  699. is a gift. We don't expect every single

  700. person to get married. We don't demand marriage on

  701. everyone. In fact, Paul Paul in 1st 27

  702. says that in the case that he was in the context he was in it,

  703. it's better that you are as I. And he gives reasons for that.

  704. Yes, there was persecution that was arising that made marriage

  705. and and and that worldly care very difficult.

  706. But he also says, you know, you secure an undivided devotion to

  707. the Lord in your singleness. So is Paul contradicting?

  708. What Genesis says, right? Because Genesis is often alluded

  709. to be fruitful and multiply. Yes, be fruitful and multiply,

  710. but also says in Genesis it's not good for man to be alone.

  711. But we don't condemn anybody if they believe by God's leaning

  712. that they are to be single. They are not dishonoring God in

  713. that right if they believe that this is something the Lord's

  714. called them to. And so we have to be careful in

  715. using these ideas that are from a good place, but to condemn

  716. others for not having that same convictions as others would

  717. have. I think there is wisdom and

  718. regulation, there's wisdom and thinking and and praying, and I

  719. think where we have to check ourselves in this whole process.

  720. And I hope they're asking this within the context of marriage.

  721. I'm assuming they are right. What are your reasons in

  722. delaying and what is your attitude toward children now?

  723. If you, as a believing husband and wife, look at children as a

  724. burden altogether, and you don't want to have children because of

  725. your personal preferences and your ideas and your goals that

  726. are disassociated from the Kingdom, then you have to

  727. actually evaluate your heart and ask yourself, am I operating

  728. under selfishness here or my reasons for delay?

  729. Legitimate. But if you as a husband and wife

  730. are wanting to devote even as a couple time to serve the Lord at

  731. a certain capacity or you're in a difficult place where you need

  732. to kind of put things in order before bringing a life into your

  733. home, but in your heart of hearts, you believe that God

  734. would want to expand your your home and to fill your quiver,

  735. that's a different mindset. That has to be, it has to be

  736. considered even by those who feel very strongly that we

  737. should allow God's sovereign ways in that beautiful act and

  738. in our in our covenant with another person.

  739. So I would say to to just sum everything up.

  740. I would say that it's not illegal.

  741. It's not ultimately wrong, but you have to examine your

  742. attitude and your reasons why. If they are righteous, if they

  743. are God centered, then you shouldn't feel condemned by

  744. planning when to have a child. That's how I would answer that.

  745. Amen. Amen.

  746. I love that that you know the world says children are a

  747. burden. It's the Christians who can

  748. stand out and say children, no matter when I have them or how

  749. many I have their blessing from the Lord.

  750. Healthy children, disabled children, adopted children.

  751. All a blessing from the Lord. That's what sets us apart.

  752. Amen okay. Next question.

  753. So what does Jesus mean when he repeatedly uses the term Kingdom

  754. of God in the Gospels? What must I do to enter it?

  755. Is it the same as going to heaven?

  756. How will it arrive? Is it?

  757. Is it synonymous with the second coming of Christ?

  758. There's a lot of. Some questions in there.

  759. Yeah, there were and and I think there are more in the original

  760. question. So the best way to answer that,

  761. you read the Gospels. You see Jesus speaking about the

  762. Kingdom of God, even the Kingdom of heaven.

  763. I believe that there aren't any significant differences between

  764. the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of heaven.

  765. Some would say so. I don't believe so.

  766. The King of God just speaks about the ruler of the Kingdom.

  767. The king of heaven just speaks about the Kingdom itself.

  768. Let's define some terms. What is a Kingdom?

  769. A Kingdom is any territory that is ruled by a monarch, a king.

  770. And so if you use that definition, then you can, you

  771. can say the Kingdom of God. If God has created all things

  772. and he is sovereign over things, he sustains all things.

  773. And the Kingdom of God is really everything.

  774. It's the universe itself. And there are Old Testament

  775. texts that would prove that that would back that up.

  776. But you come into more problems when you read the Gospels and

  777. you read things like repent. For the Kingdom of God is what

  778. it's at hand. Hold on.

  779. If a Kingdom is the region that a king rules over.

  780. God created all things. He rules over all things.

  781. Surely then everything is his Kingdom.

  782. Then what does it mean that the Kingdom of God is at hand?

  783. It's near. It's approaching.

  784. Now we come to a more narrow and more specific answer.

  785. Surely the Kingdom of God is about God's sovereign rule and

  786. reign, but more specifically his sovereign rule and reign through

  787. the Messiah himself being that ruler.

  788. In other words, the Kingdom of God is the Son of God ruling and

  789. reigning on the throne, and that helps clarify many things.

  790. So when Jesus and Luke 17 is confronted about the Kingdom of

  791. God, he says it's in the midst of you.

  792. What do you mean it's in the midst of you?

  793. It's very simple because the King of the Kingdom was in the

  794. midst of them, right? And Jesus gave examples and he

  795. gave demonstrations by invading into his world at the time, by

  796. demonstrating what it's like for God to sovereignly rule through

  797. the Messiah, by healing and delivering and forgiving and

  798. restoring. And so there is an aspect of the

  799. Kingdom of God that has been inaugurated.

  800. When Jesus came into the world, it was inaugurated, but the

  801. fulfillment of it is not. Yet the consummation of the

  802. Kingdom is still to be awaited. So the same Jesus that the

  803. Kingdom of God is in the midst of you is the same Jesus who

  804. told believers to pray your Kingdom come, your will be done

  805. on earth as it is in heaven. So we are still awaiting the

  806. consummation of the Kingdom where the Messiah, the Son of

  807. God, will enter into our world and establish a real throne in a

  808. real place for 1000 years. So then how do we relate to this

  809. idea of the Kingdom of God now? Well, I think there's an

  810. invisible aspect of the Kingdom and then the physical aspect of

  811. the Kingdom. We are enjoying and living under

  812. the invisible realities of the Kingdom of God.

  813. Today. Jesus Christ is king.

  814. He's sitting at the right hand of God.

  815. We are citizens of his Kingdom. Now, I wouldn't say that the

  816. church is the Kingdom of God. Some would make that mistake

  817. that the church is the Kingdom of God on earth.

  818. I wouldn't say that because you, you start confusing things.

  819. We're asking for the Kingdom of God to come.

  820. Jesus inaugurated the Kingdom when he came.

  821. I would say that the church is like the embassy of the Kingdom

  822. of God and that though we are citizens of the Kingdom, we are

  823. ambassadors in a foreign land, persuading and appealing to

  824. people to to gain their blood bot citizenship so that they

  825. would be prepared when the King does come and that they would be

  826. part of his Kingdom. And through our lives and our

  827. example, our testimonies, we would show people to some extent

  828. what it's like to be Kingdom citizens.

  829. Because he is king of our hearts, He rules in our hearts.

  830. And so there's an aspect of us that shows what it's like to

  831. have the governance of God over us.

  832. And as the Church, the Bride of Christ, we are waiting for the

  833. Kingdom to be ultimately manifest when Jesus Christ does

  834. return. So there is and aspect of us

  835. being part of the Kingdom, Christ being king, we enjoy the

  836. invisible spiritual realities of that right righteousness, peace

  837. and joy in the Holy Spirit. That's Romans 1417 where we hear

  838. about what the Kingdom of God is about.

  839. And so, yeah, Jesus inaugurates it.

  840. We wait for it at the same time, and we do our best to represent

  841. it to the extent that we can, to convince people to be ready for

  842. the king and to be citizens of his Kingdom.

  843. Amen. Beautiful.

  844. OK, this question might lead to a little bit of squirming.

  845. So a couple years ago the Barnard group did a survey and

  846. discovered that Christians in America on average gave 3% of

  847. their income to churches or ministries, which then leads to

  848. this question. How much should Christians?

  849. And this question uses tithe or you could use give.

  850. And then why do many people within the church not tithe?

  851. When we think about tithing, and that word denotes a 10% right, a

  852. portion of your income or your resources.

  853. That was an Old Testament principle, actually was a law,

  854. and it had an intention. There was a goal with the tithe

  855. in the old covenant. It was this.

  856. The Levites had no inheritance. The the tribe of Levi had no

  857. land to their name. They were supposed to be devoted

  858. to the the House of God. God was their inheritance and so

  859. they did not have the same access to the resources as the

  860. others tribes that. So what did God do in order to

  861. support the Levites? He called for a tie from the

  862. other tribes and it actually mounts up to more than 10%.

  863. If you do the calculations it's more right 2023% even some would

  864. argue, and the idea is this, the the tribes would then through

  865. their tides support the Levites as they devoted their their time

  866. and their energy and their lives really to supervising and to

  867. serving in the temple. It was to support the Levites.

  868. Now when you come to the New Covenant, that idea of the

  869. people of God contributing in order to help those who have

  870. devoted their lives to fulltime ministry is still there.

  871. In fact, in First critin 9, Paul goes back to the priesthood to

  872. make a case for the the the fulltime minister being taken

  873. care of through his gospel work. He should be compensated through

  874. his gospel work. The difference though, is how

  875. that giving should occur. The goal is still the same

  876. right? You have a people who work and

  877. they do other things, and they benefit spiritually from those

  878. who have given their lives over to serving in the ministry.

  879. But the means and the way we approach that is different.

  880. There was an actual number given in the old, and I'm sure most of

  881. you in here know what the standard is.

  882. According to the New Testament, what's the standard?

  883. Whatever is on your heart? 2nd Corinthians 9 Second

  884. Corinthians 9 tells us very plainly in verse seven.

  885. Each one must give as he decided in his heart.

  886. That is the clearest instruction that we are given concerning how

  887. we should give. Here's where I would like to

  888. challenge people, though, and this challenged me.

  889. If hearing that you and I go good, I'm glad I don't have to

  890. give as much as they gave in the Old Testament.

  891. Thank God. I don't think we're thinking

  892. right about giving if we're thinking we're in the new

  893. covenant, so it's less burdensome to us now because we

  894. don't have to give as much as they had to give.

  895. We're not thinking right about giving.

  896. So that's Second Corinthians 9 seven, right?

  897. When you go to 2nd Corinthians 8 seven, Paul speaking to the same

  898. people about the same thing, he says something that every single

  899. time I read it convicts me every single time to this day.

  900. Let me read it to you, he says here in verse 7.

  901. But as you excel in everything, he's speaking to the Corinthians

  902. in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in all earnestness,

  903. and in our love for you or some transition, say, in your love

  904. for us. See that you excel in this act

  905. of grace also. What act of grace is he speaking

  906. about? Giving.

  907. He's calling the Corinthian Christians to excel in giving,

  908. to be excellent in giving. Every time I read that, it

  909. convicts me. So one preacher said something

  910. and it just a light bulb went off.

  911. He said if we are we claim to believe that we are under a

  912. better covenant, that Christ makes everything better,

  913. shouldn't that then demand of us?

  914. Better giving, not less giving, the better giving, more

  915. rejoicing in our giving, more excitement in our giving.

  916. More intentionality in our giving.

  917. If our covenant is better, shouldn't our giving be better?

  918. I heard that convicted me. And so we we should examine our

  919. hearts and we should think to ourselves constantly.

  920. What do I really believe about the gospel, about the local

  921. church and I'm part of about the value that I received from the

  922. ministries that I am connected to And whether we like to

  923. acknowledge it or not, and this is for all of us are giving to

  924. some extent is an indication of that.

  925. It is. It's an indication of where our

  926. value is, where your heart is there, your treasure will be

  927. also. That's what Jesus said, right.

  928. So if you want to know where your heart is, what he's saying

  929. by that is look where your money goes.

  930. And that is not to say that we should not spend money on

  931. vacations or good food and events.

  932. But if in our scope of giving and our scope of how we manage

  933. and plan our money, investing in the proclamation, the

  934. advancement, the sustaining of the gospel and the ministries

  935. that we are part of is not there, then we have to ask

  936. yourself, how much do I really believe that I am under a better

  937. covenant and that I really, I really do want this to continue

  938. and excel? Because whether we want to

  939. acknowledge it or not, money is a real part of what we do.

  940. It's it's, it's even here. Do we put our trust in the

  941. money? No.

  942. Do we need money? In the sense of if we don't have

  943. money, we can't do the work of God.

  944. No, God is our ultimate source. But giving is not so much about

  945. what God needs because he doesn't need anything.

  946. It's more for us, and you've said this before, it's an

  947. invitation for us to participate in something, and it even trains

  948. us to be reminded that life is beyond what I spend, what I save

  949. up for here. I want to invest in eternal

  950. things and for things that will exceed my lifetime and exceed

  951. this world. So I would say look at your

  952. heart and and even look at your heart and ask the Lord to make

  953. you excited about it. Not to under compulsion of or

  954. merely under duty, but to to to operate under the revelation

  955. that this is a better covenant. I want to as a result of that

  956. worship and excel in this grace also, and so let it come from

  957. that place. And the Holy Spirit will help

  958. us. He will.

  959. Yeah, I'm wondering, as you know, let's let's say there's a,

  960. a Christian out there who really wants to do the right thing by

  961. the Lord, but they don't know how.

  962. Do you have any practical advice on giving a percentage you think

  963. that's good? Just an established percentage

  964. right from the beginning or a regularity, just just to help

  965. people in that? Yeah, that's a good question.

  966. Again, I think Paul's instruction here is clear.

  967. It will be subjective. Your income, your family

  968. situation, the season that you're in right now, my demand

  969. of you something else to the next person, right.

  970. And giving should never put a strain on you.

  971. It should never cause you to put yourself in a compromising

  972. situation at all. And so I would just say have

  973. conversations. If you're married, have

  974. conversations with your spouse about it, pray about it.

  975. Ask Lord, Lord, what is it that you would want us to give

  976. regularly? Would you want us to give

  977. periodically? How is it that you would want us

  978. to do this? And let me also add this.

  979. I'm not one to just encourage people to throw their money at

  980. anything, even in the name of ministry.

  981. Even if somebody, it doesn't matter because I know there are

  982. a lot of sketchy things out there and you're not supposed to

  983. back up everything that comes your way just because it's been

  984. presented to you. You should be careful where your

  985. money goes. You should, you should be able

  986. to investigate and say, I trust this leadership, I trust this,

  987. their vision. I see how biblical they are.

  988. And so just to put anything in an offering plate to say that

  989. you give, I don't think the Bible even encourages that kind

  990. of giving. Even if you're giving to a

  991. ministry, you have to be careful.

  992. You have to be wise. You have to be steward of the

  993. resources that you have been granted by the Lord and so be

  994. careful, be strategic, look into things, ask questions.

  995. And that's why even here we want to be as transparent as possible

  996. with our finances. That's why in our members

  997. meeting we show you everything. And if you have even deeper

  998. questions, you have every right to come to our leadership and

  999. say, hey, we want because it's we don't see it as our money.

  1000. This is God's money and This Is Us as as a family coming

  1001. together to put in our resources because we have this collective

  1002. goal of advancing the Kingdom and advancing the Kingdom.

  1003. Looks like at this point of our ministry saving up for a

  1004. building because we want a place to host the ministries that we

  1005. are enjoying here and to make room for more people to enjoy it

  1006. as well. So yeah, don't don't be naive

  1007. and you're giving and I'll give you proof of that when you go to

  1008. first time V5. There was a whole system

  1009. established even back then about which widow should receive

  1010. financial support. Paul didn't believe this idea

  1011. where people can come in and just say I'm in need.

  1012. I'm a widow. He goes, OK, who are you?

  1013. How have you served the Saints? How old are you?

  1014. There's this whole list of qualifications that Paul had in

  1015. mind about where the money should go.

  1016. So not just anybody who comes in with rags or with a need demands

  1017. the priority of our resources. We have to be very, very careful

  1018. where that goes because people will manipulate.

  1019. People are evil. People know the generosity and

  1020. the charity of Christians that will take advantage of that.

  1021. And so we have to be very, very cautious and wise and how we

  1022. approach that. And you should be just the same

  1023. with your giving. Great.

  1024. So we have several more. How many more do you think we, I

  1025. don't know, how you guys doing? All right, keep going.

  1026. In a premillennial view, some eschatology here.

  1027. Now the Millennium includes a new temple with the

  1028. reinstatement of animal sacrifices.

  1029. Skeptics bring up 4 flaws with that delegitimately

  1030. delegitimatize this view from being a viable.

  1031. Based being viable based mainly on the sacrifices with some

  1032. attention to the temple itself. And then they this person lists

  1033. some of the objections. Yeah, we can hear them.

  1034. I think it's good. Well can we just pause and does

  1035. that already on catching on to what was just said.

  1036. So there is a belief that during the millennial reign of Christ,

  1037. after the tribulation period, when Christ does return

  1038. physically and establishes his Kingdom on earth, many who hold

  1039. to that view also would say that there will be a temple during

  1040. the Millennium and that temple will actually have a function

  1041. and in that function there will be a priesthood and there will

  1042. be animal sacrifices. And so the there are those who

  1043. obviously oppose that view and we're about to hear that main

  1044. objections to that. What's the purpose of a temple?

  1045. Being reintroduced when Jesus Christ comes to rule.

  1046. And so we all understand the question so far.

  1047. So now we're going to hear the main objections, and they're

  1048. they're good objections, but we'll we'll address them.

  1049. Yeah, the first one is why do we have that If Christ Atonement

  1050. being once and for all time was already accomplished, well, why

  1051. don't we read all of them and it maybe we'll just yeah.

  1052. Okay. So Christ Atonement being once

  1053. and for all time. That's the first objection.

  1054. The second one is. God's displeasure with animal

  1055. sacrifices. 3 God's establishment of his bride as

  1056. the temple removes the possibility of a physical

  1057. temple. And then lastly, God instituted

  1058. a proper way of remembrance known as communion.

  1059. Great question. I love this question.

  1060. It's a deep question. The idea of a temple being

  1061. erected during the Millennium period is not a random thought.

  1062. It comes from the book of Ezekiel.

  1063. So when if you, if you've read Ezekiel, you know that Ezekiel

  1064. 40 to 48 is dedicated to the detailed blueprint of this

  1065. glorious temple. And it's so detailed.

  1066. I mean, there's 8 chapters dedicated to it.

  1067. And within those chapters you have even instructions of what

  1068. is to be happening in that temple.

  1069. For those who would not hold to that because of these arguments

  1070. that there will be a physical temple during the million and

  1071. they would say about Ezeka 40 to 40, that's it's allegorical,

  1072. it's speaking about the church, it's speaking about believers.

  1073. It's speaking about Christ. In some regard.

  1074. It's it can't be literal because it just doesn't make sense in

  1075. light of what Christ will accomplish and what he has

  1076. instituted in the New Covenant. And so they would say from 40 to

  1077. 48, it's it's purely allegorical, it's symbolic and

  1078. it's meeting. It's not to be taken literally.

  1079. I am among those who would believe that Ezekiel's temple is

  1080. literal for the simple reason that it is given to us to be

  1081. understood literally. And so when you read Ezekiel 40

  1082. to 48, there's something interesting that pops up of an

  1083. Ezekiel 43, verse 10. I want to read it to you.

    Ezekiel 43:10

  1084. And it says here, As for you, son of man, describe to the

  1085. House of Israel the Temple, that they may be ashamed of their

  1086. iniquities, and they shall measure the plan.

  1087. And if they are ashamed of all that they have done, make known

  1088. to them the design of the temple, its arrangements, its

  1089. exits and its entrances, that is its whole design.

  1090. And make known to them as well all its statutes and its whole

  1091. design and all its laws, and write it down in their site, so

  1092. that they may observe all its laws and all its statutes and

  1093. carry them out. That can't.

  1094. That can't open up the possibility that what you see in

  1095. Ezekiel 40 to 48, then, is allegorical, because Ezekiel was

  1096. instructed to take the actual blueprint and to read it out

  1097. loud, and to make it known to the people of Israel to inspire

  1098. holiness, to forsake their sin. And say we want that temple, we

  1099. want that kind of glory. So if we, because of those

  1100. arguments, want to dismiss the literal interpretation, I think

  1101. an allegorical interpretation opens you up to more questions

  1102. than actual answers personally. So then what do we do with this?

  1103. Because I think the burden is not so much on those who would

  1104. say that this is a reality. I believe the burden here based

  1105. on those objections is, OK, fine, it is a literal what's the

  1106. purpose of it? Then how do we understand its

  1107. function? And how do we reconcile that

  1108. with our faith and our covenant? And that's where I understand

  1109. where the tension is. There are many things to say

  1110. about this, and I think the main problem that people have is the

  1111. idea of the sacrifices more than an actual temple, it's the

  1112. sacrifices themselves. And here's what I would say to

  1113. somebody who would then, if you first can say confidently, okay,

  1114. this is a real temple. Ask yourself this question.

  1115. Has this temple ever been realized in history?

  1116. No, it hasn't. It wasn't recognized in

  1117. Solomon's temple. It wasn't recognized in Ezra's

  1118. temple. It wasn't recognized in Herod's

  1119. temple. This kind of manifestation has

  1120. never been known. More than that, when you read

  1121. Revelation 21, you will see explicitly that there will be no

  1122. temple. We're told that in Revelation 21

  1123. there will be no temple. But that's speaking about the

  1124. eternal age, because Christ will be there, right?

  1125. We don't need a temple. So then we got to fit this

  1126. somewhere. If it's never been recognized

  1127. before, if it's not going to be realized in the eternal age,

  1128. then what What do we have left? The Millennium?

  1129. The tribulation? There will be a temple, right?

  1130. Paul alludes to that when he speaks about the desecration of

  1131. the temple and 2nd Thessalonians.

  1132. But the shifts that will happen geographically, the shifts that

  1133. will happen in the world might demand that there would be a new

  1134. temple and that would fulfill what is Ezekiel's prophesying.

  1135. So, OK, it's there. So then why the sacrifices?

  1136. Why all these different things that seem to contradict what

  1137. Christ has done? And here's the thing that I

  1138. would challenge you with, and this would maybe encourage you

  1139. to do further Bible study. When you look at even Paul as an

  1140. example, maybe you've never thought about this.

  1141. If you read Acts carefully, there is an instance where Paul

  1142. himself actually post experience with Christ, participates in

  1143. some of the rituals and ceremonies in the temple of his

  1144. day. Does anybody know where where

  1145. I'm thinking, anybody know what I'm referring to?

  1146. I mean, Dan, you've preached to the Acts, right?

  1147. So in Acts 21 you read of James and you can turn there because I

  1148. want you to see this and I want to.

  1149. There's a reason why I'm bringing this to your attention.

  1150. In Acts 21 you read of James telling Paul and encouraging

  1151. Paul to take four men who were under a vow.

  1152. And it's believed that the vow was a Nas right vow and to go to

  1153. the temple and to have them purified and to actually pay for

  1154. their expenses concerning the purification procedure.

  1155. So I want to read that to you. Verse 23 do.

  1156. Therefore what we tell you. He's speaking to Paul.

  1157. Here we have four men who are under a vow.

  1158. Take these men and purify yourself along with them and pay

  1159. their expenses so that they may shave their heads.

  1160. Thus all will know that there is nothing in what they have been

  1161. told about you, but that you yourself also live in observance

  1162. of the law Here Is James concerned?

  1163. There were all of these rumors that Paul was going around

  1164. preaching that he is anti law, he's anti Torah, that he wants

  1165. to dismiss and cancel all that the covenants that the Jews have

  1166. known. He he just now is presenting

  1167. this new concept altogether. Dismissing that and James like

  1168. for the sake of your testimony would you just go ahead and do

  1169. this to prove that that is not the case And Paul agrees he

  1170. agrees. You read in verse 26.

  1171. Then Paul took the men and the next day he purified himself

  1172. along with them and went into the temple giving notice when

  1173. the days of purifications would be fulfilled and the offering

  1174. presented for each one of them. Now if you look at if this is an

  1175. ass right vow. If you go to numbers and you

  1176. look at the whole protocol for Nazarete, included in the

  1177. Nazarete vow was not just to extend your hair length but was

  1178. also animal sacrifices. So what do we have here?

  1179. We have Paul post salvation, teaching others about the

  1180. sufficiency of Christ's sacrifice, willing to partner

  1181. with men who underwent A ceremonial law in the temple.

  1182. You know what some people say about Paul?

  1183. He was wrong. Paul was actually in sin, that

  1184. he caved under the pressure and he did something that he

  1185. shouldn't have done. You know why I have problems

  1186. with that? Because if Paul is wrong, James

  1187. is wrong too, because he's the one who told him to do it.

  1188. And if Paul is wrong, then why? Later in a couple of chapters,

  1189. when he gives testimony of what happened, he he speaks about

  1190. this incident and there is no sense that he's in the wrong for

  1191. doing what he did. He speaks about him coming into

  1192. the temple. He's, he's disclosing the event

  1193. that led to his arrest, and he speaks about this moment.

  1194. So then what do we what do we have here?

  1195. I believe we have Paul, who is able to, with a clear conscience

  1196. to some level, participate in these rituals and ceremonies

  1197. because in his mind, he did not see redemptive qualities or

  1198. properties in his participation of it.

  1199. He does the same thing with Timothy with circumcision,

  1200. right? So here's what I want to just

  1201. propose as a possibility. If you see this example with

  1202. Paul in the temple, partnering with some of these Jewish

  1203. believers in their participation of the rituals of the Levitical

  1204. law, is it so hard to believe that in the Millennium there

  1205. will be some of this, not to atone for sin, not to undermine

  1206. the blood of Jesus Christ, but for other purposes?

  1207. That's all I'm suggesting to you, right?

  1208. There is no way that Paul approached this because he

  1209. thought that in doing so he would have some of his sins

  1210. cleansed. And when you, when you think

  1211. about it that way, then it opens up the the possibility that in

  1212. the Millennium, because where people feel strongly about this

  1213. is you're actually blaspheming Christ by thinking that you're

  1214. reintroducing the Mosaic system. When Christ is ruling A

  1215. reigning, he's the fulfillment of it.

  1216. Which I would also say, if you read Ezekiel's instructions from

  1217. 40 to 48 very carefully, you don't have a reintroduction to

  1218. the Mosaic system. You know why?

  1219. Because a lot of those feasts are not reintroduced, including

  1220. the Day of Atonement. Some of the furnishings that

  1221. were there in Solomon's Temple in the Tabernacle are not there

  1222. again. So we're not reintroducing the

  1223. Levitical law in the Millennium. We're not doing that.

  1224. So we got to eliminate that. And though we may not know the

  1225. full answers to why those things will be in practice, we can be

  1226. rest assured that Christ will be honored and glorified His

  1227. sacrifices atonement will reign triumphant as the reason why we

  1228. glory in him, and that nothing will interfere or conflict with

  1229. that. I mean Paul didn't even in Acts

  1230. 21. As a born again believer, I hope

  1231. that makes sense. At least entertain the

  1232. possibility with the evidences throughout scripture.

  1233. Yeah. Thank you.

  1234. Alright, this next question, I love the heart behind this

  1235. question. I don't know who submitted it,

  1236. but it it it really speaks to me as far as the the really

  1237. concerned this person has. So when we look around the

  1238. landscape of the church today, whether it be different

  1239. churches, denominations, organizations, Christian

  1240. colleges and seminaries, some pastors and ministry leaders,

  1241. even family members, we often see more secular and cultural

  1242. ideologies permeating how people think.

  1243. And what they practice and preach rather than the truth and

  1244. the gospel of Christ. Here's the question, How do we

  1245. best speak out against this when we see it?

  1246. I know every situation is different, but I wrestle at

  1247. times with whether my discontent is of a holy indignation and

  1248. from a place of true love and zeal for the Lord and others, or

  1249. if I am being self-righteous or judgmental in a way that is not

  1250. pleasing to God. Do you have any advice on how to

  1251. react with practical wisdom in these situations with others,

  1252. whether it be at home, work or social media?

  1253. When should we speak out and when should we stay silent?

  1254. Such a good question, and in some way it might tie into the

  1255. first question of this session, though not entirely.

  1256. But I would first say to this person's heart that you

  1257. shouldn't condemn yourself for feeling this way about clear

  1258. opposition and contradiction to the word of God being done in

  1259. the name of Christ and among those who claim to be leaders

  1260. for Christ. And I would say, hone that, own

  1261. that, praise God for that, and ask God to harness your feelings

  1262. so that it wouldn't cause you to act in unrighteousness.

  1263. But even the disciples, when they saw Jesus enter into that

  1264. temple in John Chapter 2 and overthrew the money changers,

    John 2 chapter mention

  1265. they saw that zeal and they realized zeal for his house will

  1266. consume him. So there is a righteous zeal

  1267. that we should feel when it comes to the purity and the

  1268. integrity and the honor that God should have in his house and

  1269. with his word. And so if you feel that passion,

  1270. I I applaud that because there's some people who care less and

  1271. they're so consumed with their own lives that they're not

  1272. consumed with the glory of God. And so I applaud that that heart

  1273. for the honor of the Lord Jesus. But the question is followed up

  1274. with, how do I express this? How do I deal with this?

  1275. And that indicates that there are people in this person's life

  1276. that are proposing this, that are preaching this, that are

  1277. sharing this, that are teaching this.

  1278. And so I would say, as he said and and he's on to something,

  1279. that the format will demand a different approach, right.

  1280. And so from a preaching standpoint, we got to deal with

  1281. it as clearly and as authoritatively as possible, to

  1282. call it out for what it is and to denounce it and to condemn

  1283. it, and to be very direct. But that's not the case for many

  1284. believers. So what the What should they do?

  1285. I would say, in hearing that, depending on the extent of your

  1286. relationship with other believers who might be

  1287. entertaining these ideologies and these philosophies and these

  1288. wrong doctrines have conversations with them, right?

  1289. And so we're told there in Second Timothy how the Lord's

  1290. servant should be. And that includes being gentle

  1291. and patiently enduring evil and being able to interact with

  1292. people in a certain way so that you would win them and that they

  1293. would come to their senses and escape the snare of Satan.

  1294. So there is a call for conversational and respectable

  1295. dialogue. And the best way to do it again,

  1296. is from Jesus's method to ask questions to say you know, or to

  1297. invite somebody out to say, you know, I saw these things that

  1298. you're posting and I heard that you believe these things.

  1299. I'm curious, no more Can I ask more about that?

  1300. And maybe it's a colleague from work where you take a lunch

  1301. break and you have that time or if it's a family member, but you

  1302. want to have a conversation with them because those people

  1303. assumingly believe that this, whatever they're believing in is

  1304. of God, is God's will, God's word.

  1305. And they're interpreting things. So have that conversation with

  1306. them and hear them out and then deal with it accordingly and

  1307. guide them. Usually when you give people a

  1308. chance to speak, they tend to give you a chance.

  1309. And I know some people are not like that, but some most are.

  1310. And have those conversations and trust that those conversations

  1311. can be fruitful and that and and here's what I always say, don't

  1312. feel like you have to win that person in the first conversation

  1313. or that first kind of interaction.

  1314. Believe that the seed that you plant can actually be enough for

  1315. them to wrestle with what they hold to.

  1316. So be patient, be patient with them, and I would say just ask

  1317. God to continue to fuel that passion in your heart and for

  1318. platforms, be able to just testify if His truth and for

  1319. divine appointments with people to hear what you have to say

  1320. concerning the truth. And I'm sure the Lord will honor

  1321. that in a day of age where people are very afraid to speak

  1322. out what God has to say. So.

  1323. Wonderful. All right, this is the last

  1324. question. You know, I don't think it's any

  1325. shock to anybody that in America we live in a very litigious

  1326. society. People love to sue other people,

  1327. but the people love to threaten to sue other people.

  1328. So this question says when is it right for Christians to seek

  1329. legal action in Scripture? We do not take our brothers to

  1330. court, but instead forgive. But what about unbelievers?

  1331. The word says vengeance is the Lord.

  1332. So is there ever a time when we should, as Christians, take

  1333. legal actions? I think you should answer that

  1334. question too, with your history and your background.

  1335. And I will ask that I'll give an answer and please add on to it.

  1336. Here's what I would say based on scripture.

  1337. There is a clear call that believers should suffer wrong

  1338. instead of taking each other to court.

  1339. Because protecting the testimony is the testimony of crisis far

  1340. greater than you gaining extra money or getting payback.

  1341. But what do we do with unbelievers?

  1342. And I would say that Paul's mentality with the believers,

  1343. the principle that he's operating under, overlaps even

  1344. with how we interact with unbelievers to some extent.

  1345. What was Paul's mindset when he talked taught that in First

  1346. Scrinthian 6, your rights, no matter how strongly you feel

  1347. about them, should be in subject to the greater cause of the the

  1348. person, the nature, and the message of Jesus Christ.

  1349. And so if you, surrendering your rights protects and Shields from

  1350. an unbelieving world, a possible scorn, mockery, disdain, then

  1351. sacrifice your rights. And Paul did that for himself

  1352. and 1st Corinthians 9. He said, I have the right to

  1353. demand material benefit from you as I benefit you spiritually.

  1354. But I surrender that right because I don't want anybody

  1355. else to say Paul's preaching to gain money from you.

  1356. And Paul's like, I'd rather glory in that than to demand

  1357. something of you. So I'm not going to ask you

  1358. anything for the gospel. And in the same chapter there he

  1359. tells the same church to give to ministers.

  1360. So Paul, he's, he's in a different world and his

  1361. thinking, he's in a different world constantly with any

  1362. situation or circumstances. He's always thinking this in the

  1363. forefront of his mind. What would bring most glory to

  1364. Christ in this? What would limit scandal?

  1365. What would protect my testimony ultimately, as I deal with the

  1366. situation and sometimes, depending on the situation, that

  1367. would require you to actually exercise your legal right.

  1368. And Paul does that. And we taught a Bible study on

  1369. that. Remember, in Act 16, him and him

  1370. and Silas were arrested. And then they go to the jailer's

  1371. house, they're converted. And then the magistrate come and

  1372. they say, hey, we were wrong. We're sorry, we didn't mean to

  1373. arrest you. You guys can leave now.

  1374. No issue, no court case. It's all done.

  1375. We dropped the case, right? We dropped all charges.

  1376. You know what Paul does? He goes, no, no, no, no, no.

  1377. You're not letting us go. Actually, we want you to escort

  1378. us out. And pious Christians in 2023

  1379. would say, Paul, that's not Christ.

  1380. Like we're people of peace. Go about your way and fulfill

  1381. your ministry. You know what Paul would say

  1382. with you? No, I'm not going anywhere.

  1383. Was Paul bitter? Did Paul want to get something

  1384. back? No, he was.

  1385. He's he was operating under the same principle and conviction as

  1386. he was when he told the believers that he would not

  1387. exercise his right to gain anything from the materially for

  1388. his spiritual service, in what sense?

  1389. What happened? What happened to Paul and Silas?

  1390. They were publicly condemned. They were publicly arrested.

  1391. They were publicly shamed and there was little information

  1392. given about their arrest. The last thing that the people

  1393. saw was that these missionaries who came into Phillip Eye are

  1394. now arrested. Surely did something wrong and

  1395. illegal to warrant that. And Paul knew that.

  1396. So Paul says, I'm not going to let the last thing that they saw

  1397. be us getting arrested. You have to bring us out and

  1398. show everybody that we were actually innocent.

  1399. Why? For the sake of the gospel.

  1400. For the sake of the testimony of Christ.

  1401. And so when it comes to promoting the gospel, when it

  1402. comes to protecting the gospel, protecting.

  1403. His, his, his glory, his name, his purpose on the earth.

  1404. Through the church, we should utilize the freedoms that we

  1405. have. I think the greatest example of

  1406. that is what we've been experiencing the past few years

  1407. when we've been told that you can't gather and meet under the

  1408. name of safety and healthcare and loving your neighbor even.

  1409. And many churches have taken the stand and and took the legal

  1410. route to say no, we have the right to meet.

  1411. This is our right. We should for what purpose?

  1412. In order for us to fulfill what God called us to fulfill.

  1413. In order for us to protect what God called us to protect an

  1414. honor, and that is to meet together as the church.

  1415. And so that is legitimate. God would applaud that according

  1416. to His word. That wisdom is granted through

  1417. Paul's example, many other incidents for us to be

  1418. encouraged to say, yes, this, this, this is something that we

  1419. can do for the good of our God and His glory.

  1420. Now, I know that this is probably more impersonal things,

  1421. personal matters. I understand that I would have

  1422. to hear the situation to give any kind of counsel or advice.

  1423. But I would say you're always safe by using Paul's mindset in

  1424. all situations. And at sometimes we'll call you

  1425. to say I'm letting this go. In other situations it would say

  1426. I can't let this, I can't let this go because this will cost

  1427. more for my faith and for others and for the wellbeing of the

  1428. church and the message of the church.

  1429. So we must fight. So we will fight.

  1430. That's how I would answer that. What would you add?

  1431. Yeah. You know, it's interesting in in

  1432. in I know this is talking about lawsuits against unbelievers,

  1433. but I I, I think it's important to talk about.

  1434. You know there's some some Christians who say that even if

  1435. a crime was committed against me by somebody, an unbeliever, I'm

  1436. not going to go to police. I'm not going to go to court

  1437. because I that's what the Bible says.

  1438. I I would just caution, especially when you're dealing

  1439. in crimes, right, whether it's spousal abuse, whether it's.

  1440. God forbid somebody murders someone that you know and you're

  1441. a witness to it or something, or whether you get called for jury

  1442. duty on a criminal case, believe it or not.

  1443. So one of the questions that I asked him in when I did criminal

  1444. juries is, do you have any religious beliefs that would

  1445. cause you to not be able to sit in judgment against someone

  1446. else? Because you have some Christians

  1447. who say I will not judge him because I'm a Christian and.

  1448. Judge not lest you be judged, right.

  1449. That's what they say. I I think that's a

  1450. misapplication of what of what Christ is saying there.

  1451. And I think actually as Christians we have a duty to to

  1452. work with the work with the government in criminal cases

  1453. because ultimately what what criminal cases are about is an

  1454. offense against the people around you, the people of the

  1455. state of Illinois. That's who's on the one side of

  1456. this, this criminal case, the people of the state of Illinois

  1457. versus the defendant. And I believe it's our job as

  1458. Christians to help the government do their job.

  1459. The government's job is to call good, good, call evil, evil,

  1460. punish the evil doer. Right.

  1461. And as good citizens, as Christian citizens, it is our

  1462. job to cooperate with that, whether it's being a witness in

  1463. a criminal case or a member of the jury in a criminal case.

  1464. Lawsuits against believers. You know, I, I, I know people

  1465. who love. Clear, Black and white.

  1466. Yes or no. Yes or no.

  1467. But it's not the case in in in most things, I would say, and I

  1468. absolutely agree sometimes, yeah, you do give up your right.

  1469. You say I'm not going to sue, but sometimes you do have to say

  1470. and looking at the Bible, yeah, it's actually my responsibility

  1471. to sue. How about the hospital?

  1472. Who's so negligent that they mess up something in your

  1473. surgery or something? Well, guess what?

  1474. If you don't pursue legal action against them, they're going to

  1475. do it to somebody else. So you might not be seeking

  1476. 1,000,000 or $10 million, but I believe as the responsible

  1477. Christians, we have to make sure this wrong does not continue.

  1478. Or as Daniel said, you know, there's Christian law firms

  1479. every day suing, using the civil, criminal, civil court

  1480. system to advocate for the rights of the the.

  1481. The coach who wants to pray before a football game, Or the

  1482. nurse who won't do abortions and then gets fired, Or the cake

  1483. Baker who won't make a specially designed cake because it goes

  1484. against his Christian beliefs. These are absolutely legitimate

  1485. lawsuits. We see it in Paul, not just in

  1486. Philippians, but also in acts. Right as he was arrested.

  1487. I appeal to Caesar, right? What a Caesar.

  1488. You shall go. And then we see what the Lord

  1489. does. As Paul uses that system that's

  1490. in place, we see how the Lord uses Paul even for the good of

  1491. so many other people as he's following through in that

  1492. process. So, yeah, hope that helps.

  1493. I hope it helps to help me. Amen.

  1494. Well, that concludes our Q&A. I hope you guys are edified and

  1495. blessed. We love when questions come in

  1496. because it sharpens us and it encourages us to kind of examine

  1497. things in a deeper level. And so we were so blessed.

  1498. There are many, many other questions, obviously.

  1499. I mean it's it's close to 9:00. So we we enjoyed it.

  1500. We hope you didn't feel the the time when we just want to pray

  1501. and give God glory for all these things that were discussed.

  1502. Would you like to pray for us? Heavenly Father, you are good

  1503. and your mercy endorsed forever. Lord, your word is so good

  1504. sharper than any two edged sword.

  1505. Lord, your word gives life. Where else should we go?

  1506. Lord, you have the words of eternal life.

  1507. And thank you for the wisdom from Pastor Daniel and the

  1508. guidance. And thank you for the questions

  1509. where brothers and sisters are truly wanting to do what is

  1510. right according to your word. May you give us all wisdom.

  1511. May you give us all discernment. Supernatural understanding

  1512. illuminate our hearts and our minds as we read.

  1513. Lord, shower us with Your grace. May we live lives that are

  1514. pleasing to you, and may You transform us every day more into

  1515. the image of Christ in our thoughts and our words and our

  1516. actions. You are good, Lord, in Jesus

  1517. name we pray. Amen.

  1518. Amen. Well, why don't we sing one more

  1519. song and closing. Shall we do that?