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Bible Questions & Answers (Q&A) Session (2) | Pastor Daniel Batarseh
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So as you know, we're doing a Q&A and I'm going to hand it off
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to Mark. But before we do that, maybe we
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should pray. Ask the Lord to help us if you'd
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like to pray for us, Sure. Father, we thank you for
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blessing us with this time. Lord, what a privilege it is to
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gather. Here is blood bought Saints to
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dive into your word, to know you better through your word.
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To live as Christians through your word.
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Lord, may you enlighten our eyes, enlighten our minds and
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our hearts as we answer and talk about these sometimes difficult
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questions. Lord, it may propel us to
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greater faithfulness and greater love toward you.
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In Jesus name. Amen.
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Amen. All right.
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Well, we have a few questions here I'm excited to, really.
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Just talk about them a little bit tonight.
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There's some very practical questions, there's some
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theological questions in there. But what I love about these
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questions that you all submitted, it's really it's it's
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not a stump, the pastor type of questions.
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It's these are real questions that are on people's minds
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wanting to know what the word of God says about some hard to
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understand issues. And you know, I was reflecting
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on it earlier today and you know in Peter second Peter where he
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says that you know things that Paul says in the New Testament.
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Hard to understand sometimes, right.
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But ultimately, and I love how Peter ends that he says even
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though these things are hard to understand, even though there's
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some people out there who will misuse and abuse these difficult
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scriptures to to bring doubt into your minds.
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Peter ends this with, then ends that passage with this.
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He he prays for them, and he says that he hopes they.
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Grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus
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Christ. To him be the glory both now and
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to the day of eternity. Amen.
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Amen. And so that's that's really why
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I'm excited to really dive into these questions today.
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So let's start, you know, as Christians.
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Daniel, it's. We we live in a society where
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all around us, the unbelieving world, there's conflicts,
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there's arguments, there's just backbiting and hatred and
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spitefulness. But as Christians, in a
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Christian community of believers, not only in the local
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church but in the wider Christian communities, we have
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to be different from the world. But as Christians, we still
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have. Sin.
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We still have disagreements, We still have conflict.
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So how do we as Christians confront a brother or sister in
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Christ when that brother and or sister is in sin?
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Yeah, that's a huge question because when you look at Jesus's
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instructions about the church, there are only two places in the
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entire Gospels where Jesus refers to the church directly
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and clearly. Both are found in the Gospel of
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Matthew and Matthew 16, where the revelation that Peter has
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concerning Christ Jesus refers to the church being built upon
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that revelation. And then in Matthew 18 where
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Jesus instructs believers how to deal with a sinning believer and
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he refers to the church in those set of instructions.
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Now here's what I find so significant about that the the
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fact that Jesus, out of all the things you could have said about
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the function of the church, the one thing that he wanted to
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touch on was that the purpose of the church in the believer's
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life is that there would be a mutual operation of
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accountability. Think about that when you and I
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become followers of Jesus Christ and are joined to, yes, the
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universal church, but the universal church express in the
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local settings, the primary. One of the primary reasons for
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that is that we would open our lives up to other Christians to
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speak into our lives and also setting ourselves up to be ready
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to respectfully restore brother or sister if they've fallen into
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sin. I don't think that's how many
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believers view the local church. I don't think that's how how
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many people view their relationship with other
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believers. That one of the top reasons for
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Christ bringing us together is that we would have an eye out
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for one another and what that looks like.
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Once we've established that once we realized the the great call
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that Christ has given us concerning what the church
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should function as, we have to then ask how do we do that
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right? And that really depends on a
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case by case situation. It would depend on the nature of
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the sin. It would depend on the setting
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of where that sin perhaps was committed.
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For example, you look at Paul with Cephas and Antioch.
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Peter is acting hypocritically and he caused other Jewish
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believers to also follow in his example to treat the Gentiles as
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lesser than. And So what does Paul do?
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It says there he spoke before them all and he confronts Peter
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to his face. That's not a rule for all of us
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to call out a believer and sin in front of everybody because
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you go back to what the actual rules are in Jesus says of a
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brother sins, you go to him privately.
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And so we know if you read Matthew 1815 down, you see the
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protocol given to believers. And yet even though the protocol
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is there, there's still a call for wisdom.
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And that wisdom is our attitude towards other believers.
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And I would say the best way in dealing with people, especially
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if they are caught in sin or they've offended you, is to do
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so in a way in which you would like to be approached if you
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were caught in sin. Whether that sin is intentional
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or not. We have to also remember, when
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people are in sin, sometimes they're not doing so
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intentionally. Maybe they're operating with a
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lesser revelation than you are. Maybe they're immature in the
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faith. So you always have to put
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yourself in their shoes. And more than that, Galatian
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speaks about a spirit of gentleness.
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And so with that, I believe there is a necessity to approach
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a brother. And here's here's my preference
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in doing that, to ask a lot of questions.
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So approach a believer, asking questions, not coming with
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evidence and then saying, you know you did this, this is, this
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is your fault. Or whatever the case may be,
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what you want to do is you want to love hopes for all things,
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right? It hopes for the best.
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And so you want to give them a chance to explain themselves.
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You want to also give them the chance to be honest and to
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confess that sin. And so the aim of our
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confrontation is not to demean or discourage, but always to
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restore. And even in the confrontation
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stage, you want to win that brother or that sister.
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You don't want to destroy them, and you don't want to push them
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off or give them the impression that you're not for them.
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Again with that, because Jesus also said that he was gentle and
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lonely, there are moments and there are settings where a
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strong word needs to be given that serious rebuke needs to be
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offered. That doesn't exclude those
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potential confrontations, but we just need to be wise and we need
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to consider the different facets of the circumstance in the
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situation. Always with the goal that I want
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to redeem this brother. I want to see this sister.
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Come back to the faith, come back to the will of God, come
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back to honoring the Lord in their lives.
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And so the way I've done it, and I've the way I've seen other
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people do it effectively is, hey, I you did this.
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And I don't know if you, I don't know if you meant it when you
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said it, but it it did hurt me. And I just want to ask, you
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know, do you have a reason behind what you said or what you
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didn't say? You didn't include me in this.
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You didn't ask questions because they could be operating under
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ignorance. They could have done something
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due to a blind spot. That's not how we feel when
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we're offended. We always almost assumed that
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they did it to intentionally hurt us.
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And that's just one scenario. There's different, again,
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scenarios that we have to consider, but I think as a
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general rule, ask questions, come in gentleness and always
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put yourself in their shoes. If if you were caught in
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something, how would you want to be approached?
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It's wonderful what what do you do, though, if you confront
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someone and they're like I I didn't do anything wrong.
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Or I did this. Not a big deal.
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I don't understand what what? What's the big deal?
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Like if you have a confronting somebody and they just, there's
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no repentance, there's no remorse.
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What do you do then, as a Christian?
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That's a great question. Well then, Jesus provides the
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answer. Bring two or three other
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brothers. Let them begin to feel how
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serious this is, bringing other witnesses to testify that this
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is indeed a sin. And then if they still resist
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and they still or repeat that sin and the repentance is
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shallow and not true, then it comes to the point where Jesus
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says, then you have to treat them in a certain way.
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You have to treat them as a tax collector.
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You have to treat them as a gentile.
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In other words, you have to treat them as somebody who is
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not part of the community of faith.
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And at that point they forfeit certain relational privileges in
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order for them to realize that there are consequences to a lack
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of repentance. And so again, the to approach
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somebody in their sin in the name of gentleness and kindness
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and respect does not disqualify the need to bring in a more
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serious approach if it requires it.
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So I would say that Jesus had that in mind when he gave those
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instructions. Somebody dismisses it or says
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that's just my personality, you're too sensitive, OK?
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Now you bring this before 2-3 other witnesses, and if it's
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legitimate, they'll agree with you.
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And then this person that has to deal with other believers who
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are confronting them. What are they going to do then?
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And the whole point of that process that Jesus gives us is
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to keep the the sin issue of a person's A person's fallen is as
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private as possible and to and to allow them to be in an
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honorable way come to their senses before it becomes more
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public. And if it deserves a more public
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approach, then that's because of their unwillingness to
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ultimately repent. Thank you.
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Last followup question, because you know you you hear this a
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lot, especially in the in the wider Christian community,
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unfortunately nowadays are there do you think there are any
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situations where Matthew 18 would not apply, where you are
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not called to go one-on-one with the person who is sitting
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against you? Absolutely.
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I love that followup question because Paul exercises that with
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the brother in the Church of Corinth who was sinning with his
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father's wife. And the church knew about it.
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And Paul skips all those steps and he says get him out of
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there, get him out of there, he needs to go.
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And the reason why he says that is because it was a public sin.
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The church indirectly affirmed it and tolerated it.
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And so there was no need to go through that protocol.
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And so it's not this black and white thing.
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There are Gray areas. There are different situations
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that demand different responses and there is license for that.
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So absolutely depends on the nature of this and the
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circumstances, situation, situation.
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If a leader sins, there's a different approach than if a
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believer in the congregation a member sins.
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So yeah, we can't just, we can't just take Matthew 18 and apply
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it to every single case. That might be unwise.
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And that's why there's always a call to wisdom concerning the
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nature of send the severity of it, how public is it, how
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dangerous it is. All those things need to be put
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into Factor, yeah. Great, Okay.
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Let's move on to the next one. You know, many churches preach
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primarily from the New Testament and to the neglect of the Old
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Testament, whether it's Sunday morning, Sunday evening, other
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Bible study times. In fact, you do have some well
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regarded or at least well known Christian leaders nowadays.
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I'm thinking of Andy Stanley large church in Georgia, North
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Point, who's on record as saying that Christians need to uncouple
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themselves from the Old Testament.
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What would you say to that? And and can we apply all of the
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Old Testament to us as New Testament believers?
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And how do we know what's and what not to apply if we don't
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apply all the Old Testament? Yeah, it's unfortunate that many
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people, whether they like the situation you brought up, this
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is one of this, assisted themselves theologically with
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the Old Testament. Or those who are intimidated by
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the Old Testament and don't see the value of it choose not to
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teach on and expound on it. At the same time, there is
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concern because we realize we are in a new covenant.
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So how does the old covenant apply to us?
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And that's a vital question. That's an important question.
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I understand the the reasoning behind that.
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What we have to understand is even in the New Testament, we're
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told in Romans 15 believe verse four told in First Corinthians
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10. Believe verse 6 and verse 11,
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that there is encouragement and instruction found in these Old
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Testament stories. And even in these laws and and
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these Psalms, there is value for our personal encouragement.
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And so people kind of look down upon those who go to the story
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of David and the story of Joseph and what they tend to say in
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defense of Christ being. The theme of the Bible is you
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can't put yourself in that story with Joseph.
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You can't put yourself in that story of David.
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And I get that you can stretch these stories to make it about
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you and not make it about God's glory.
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At the same time, Paul tells me I can go there for
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encouragement. I can go to how God dealt with
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Joseph's life with his perfect, sovereign, providential plan and
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believe the same for my life. I can look at David's faith and
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say, yeah, God honors faith and there is instruction and value.
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They're concerning my faith with the lens of the New Testament,
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of course. So it's a it's it's an
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unfortunate thing to hear people speak like that.
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I know their hearts are in the right place and that they want
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to defend the glory of Christ being the theme and the golden
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thread from beginning to end. But there is nothing
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illegitimate with me and for you for anybody else to go to the
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Old Testament with the boundaries of the New Testament
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to see how these things apply to me.
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In fact, the Old Testament is the best illustration book for
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New Testament principles. However, I get the again, back
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to the original question, I get the argument of well, we're in
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the New covenant, so how do we know what of the Old Testament?
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Maybe ceremonial laws, rituals, feast.
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How do we know what transfers over and what is obsolete?
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Or what has ceased to be applicable?
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And there are two places that help me when I look at that
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question. One is an Isaiah 42.
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You're told they're in the first few verses, a prophecy
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concerning the Messiah to come and and in the first few verses
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we are told that the Coast lands will wait for His law.
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That's an interesting phrase that as the Messiah comes, the
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gentile nations themselves are awaiting a law to come from him.
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When you go to Hebrews 7, the author of Hebrews is arguing how
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the priesthood of Melchizedek is superior to the priesthood of
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Aaron. And he says something in that
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chapter, verse 12 I believe, where he mentions that if there
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is a new priesthood, then automatically that assumes that
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there is going to be a new law. What does that mean?
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What that means is that in the new covenant you have in a sense
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a law within that covenant, a new way of approaching worship,
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approaching sanctification, approaching our relationship
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with the Lord. And Christ brought that in.
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Not that he dismissed the Old covenant, He was the fulfillment
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of it. But he brought about the true
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substance of the Old Testament, and that's what we would call
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the law of Christ. So how do I identify the law of
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Christ in the New Covenant? I think the best way to do is to
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read the New Covenant, read the Gospels, read the epistles, the
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apostles who were given authority, and the promise by
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Christ that the Spirit would come and he would reveal
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everything that the Christ would want him to know and expound
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upon his teachings. Because at that time, they
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weren't ready to receive all that Christ wanted them to know.
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And what you'll see as you study the new covenant is that there
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is some overlap with the Old Covenant, and there are some
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things that don't apply anymore. So people often ask about the
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Sabbath, right? They look at the 10 commandments
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and they'll see that nine of those commandments resurface in
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the New Covenant. But the the Sabbath, as the Jews
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observed, is not necessarily repeated.
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It's not emphasized as a teaching, as a practice for the
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church. Well, why is that?
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Because Christ is the Sabbath. Hebrews 4.
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He fulfilled that, but at the same time, there's a universal
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moral code that still applies in the New Covenant.
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So the best way to know what applies to me and what doesn't
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is to simply study the New Covenant.
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Realize that there was a law, there was a law from them aside
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that was anticipated, and that is what we are under.
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That is what we are subject to. And then that that way you can
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properly interpret the Old Covenant.
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So I we know of a brother who's not here, but he loves the Lord,
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and I trust that he's still walking with the Lord.
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When he first got saved, he didn't have that revelation.
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And so when he approached the Old Testament thinking, well,
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I'm supposed to read this from cover to cover, he looked at
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some of those levitical laws concerning how men should dress
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and how they should not shave, that the ends of their the size
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of their beards. And he thought, okay, well,
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that's what I got to do as a Christian.
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I got to not shave here and dress this way.
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And a wise believer approached him and says, no, that doesn't
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apply. You know, that's not binding on
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us. And so that's the simplest
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answer, I think. Just consider the law of Christ.
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And that is what we are called to observe, yeah.
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Great. Love to spend more time on that
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one. Yeah, you know, unfortunately we
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have to move on. Next question.
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This is a good one. Some teach that Jesus went to
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hell after he died and before his resurrection.
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Where was Jesus during that interval?
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That is a good question, and the only place where we are given
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clear insight concerning that period of time between his death
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and his resurrection, I believe, is first Peter Three.
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That's the clearest place. And when you go to first Peter
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three, you get one idea of what took place during Silent
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Saturday, as some like to describe it.
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He says this in verse 19. Well, I can read from verse
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18th. For Christ also suffered once
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for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring
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us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the
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spirit in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in
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prison, because they formerly did not obey.
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When God's patience waited in the days of Noah while the ark
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was being prepared, in which a few, that is 8 persons, were
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brought safely through water. So there isn't much given
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concerning that time and where we are given little, we have to
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say little not go beyond what is written.
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But based on this, what we can say is that Jesus in the spirit
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went to a particular spiritual place and he proclaimed a
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message to certain spirits who were imprisoned, obviously in
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prison for many, many, many years.
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And we're, we're told specifically since the days of
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Noah and for a specific sin or series of sin during that time
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of Noah. And so these are commonly
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believed to be demon spirits who had a great influence upon the
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generation of Noah. And there's debate about the
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extent of their influence and how they interacted with the
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sons of of of men. But what's Jesus here doing,
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proclaiming to these spirits who are incarcerated and imprisoned
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until judgment? Right?
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Based on this, we can make the case and in other places, that
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there are some demons who are held captive until the day of
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judgment, and there are other demons who are that loose on the
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earth, obviously under God's sovereign will for them to do
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their bidding. But at this time, Jesus comes
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into this holding place and he preaches he doesn't preach the
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gospel. He's not evangelizing these
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spirits, but what he is doing is that he is making a triumphant
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declaration. That's what Christ is doing.
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And so there could be even the possibility that these spirits
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rejoiced at the site of the death of the Son of God, that
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that they probably thought, okay, we did it.
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We we were able to overthrow prophecy.
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We were able to conquer the plan of salvation.
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And who comes in? Jesus Christ declaring his
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victory, declaring his vicarious death, his triumphant success
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over the grave? I would, I would love to have
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seen those spirits faces. And so all this is saying is
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that Jesus really came to declare his victory.
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And one thing's for certain, he didn't go to hell to suffer for
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our sins. He didn't.
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He didn't do anything because it was finished on the cross.
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It was finished at the cross. He he drank every drop of that
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cup. And so all he's doing here is
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letting people know that he did do that, letting specific
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spirits know, and even the ascension is a declaration of
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that. I I'm looking forward to
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preaching one day purely on the ascension of Jesus Christ.
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We often hear about his, his, his incarnation.
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We hear about His crucifixion. We hear about His resurrection,
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but very little is mentioned about His ascension.
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There is a message with that ascension.
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There's a reason why He bodily went up into the clouds, and the
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and the reason behind that is deeper than we would think.
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So you have to come to that sermon.
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I'm not going to share it. Why now?
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So looking at the Apostles Creed where it says that Jesus was
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crucified, dead and buried, descended into the hell on 3rd
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day rose again, would you say Christians should?
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Not or should say that if they are saying the Apostles Creed
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because some churches say the Apostles Creed is part of their
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liturgy, the word hell, is that the the point that you're
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bringing up? Yes.
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Yeah that's a translation issue more than anything else.
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So especially with older translations you'll see the word
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hell used. But in the original it's really
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referring to Hades the grave she Ole.
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And so that comes really to a translation issue, if if what
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they mean by Hell is what we see in Revelation 20 and where the
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lake of fire will be created, where death in Hades will be
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thrown into, and everybody whose name's not written in the book
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of life. And yes, don't use that word.
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Jesus didn't enter into Hell in that case, but he did enter into
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the underworld as we see here. And he did declare triumphantly
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how he conquered not just death, but Satan himself.
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So just be careful with your terminology, whether it's a
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creed or averse, concerning your translation, and just make sure
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that you're not confused or people hearing it are confused.
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Great. All right.
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The next question, you know, in in many Christian colleges, it
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was the case when I was in Christian college, and it's
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certainly the case now. You still have you do have
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people say legitimately I think sometimes, sometimes not
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legitimately. A guy goes up to a girl, is most
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often the case, and says God told me to marry you.
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It happens probably not the wisest thing to say sometimes,
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but should Christians? And I don't know if this is a
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man or a woman asking this question, but so should I wait
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for a prophetic word to tell me who to marry?
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There's a common joke. I've said it before, so I
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apologize if you heard it before, but if you haven't I'll
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I'll share it anyway. About this woman who was at a
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conference and after a few days a man approaches this woman,
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obviously attracted, drawn to her, and says that very thing.
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He says, The Lord told me that you're supposed to be my wife
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and the woman gently looked at him.
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He says really says yes, and she says, did the Lord tell that to
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my husband? So should you wait for a
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prophetic word to tell you who to marry?
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No, absolutely not. You should not wait for a
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prophetic word because there's no instruction for that in the
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Bible when it comes to selecting a spouse.
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Let me broaden it. I think a lot of Christians even
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fall into the trap of waiting for any supernatural sign to
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indicate to them that somebody is a potential candidate or is
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supposed to be your spouse, because again, there is no
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scriptural mandate or even invitation to do that.
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Now I know how some people feel like, Are you saying that you
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shouldn't pray for God to reveal who that person should be?
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Absolutely not. You should.
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There's anything to pray the most about Is that more than
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your job, more than your car, more than where to move is Lord,
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who would you have me marry? Who is the person that you would
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have me covenant with? But I'm afraid that as people
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are praying for, that they're waiting for something that is
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not necessarily something that God has to grant.
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Can God supernaturally make something known?
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Yeah. Who says that he can't?
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Is that the norm? I I say, no, it's not the norm.
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And where people tend to go is the story with Isaac and
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Rebecca. Genesis 24.
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Abraham sends his servant to find a wife for his son Isaac,
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and he arrives at a specific well and he seeks the Lord.
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And this is what he asked the Lord.
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He says, Lord, when a woman comes and if she asked if I want
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to drink, let her also ask if she can feed my camels and then
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I will know that my trip was in a waste.
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And this is the person that you have for my master son.
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And people tend to use that and they get very creative in asking
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God for signs, right? Lord, when she knocks on my
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door, let her wear this. Or Lord, let her order.
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That. Or Lord, let her call me at this
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time. And so we make very specific
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demands and we use Genesis 24 as a license to approach that
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decision or that kind of prayer in that way.
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But people miss what the Abraham servant even prayed about.
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He wasn't asking for a random sign.
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Notice what he asked for. He asked that the Lord would
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reveal something about this woman's character.
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Right, this Lord, I want her to not just do what's obvious and
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what's demanded of or what's the social norm.
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I want her to go above and beyond.
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So Lord, if this woman goes above and beyond, then I'll know
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that she's someone special, then I'll know.
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So there's something there in principle for us that if you're
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going to be asking the Lord for anything, is to open your eyes
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to that person's heart, to that person's inner beauty, to that
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person's fear of God, to that person's integrity, right.
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I think that's how we need to be praying with that.
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Don't get me wrong, pray, Lord protect me from the wrong one.
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Because Ecclesiastes tells us that there's something worse
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than death, and that's a woman whose heart is chains and
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fetters, right? In other words, out.
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Externally she looks fine, but internally she's a trap.
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And he says the Sinner is taken by her, but the one who pleases
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God escapes her. And so take that scripture and
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bring it before the Lord. But again, that's that's found
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in the word of God. Lord, as long as I walk in your
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way and your will, as long as I'm honoring you, you promise me
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that I will not be in a trap. You won't put me in a
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relationship that I'll later be like, what did I get myself
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into? You promise me?
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You promise here that you will guide me to the right person,
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and so open my eyes to the extent in which I can see this
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person as a potential partner for life.
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And so be careful asking for something so specific that would
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delay you or even cause you to miss out on potential candidates
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before you. And so, yeah, it breaks my heart
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to see people thinking that way that they that in order for them
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to find somebody, they need this extravagant, awesome story.
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And I get it. But, you know, you want God to
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be glorified in that story. But again, I'm afraid that
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people romanticize that story. They want this testimony so that
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when somebody that says how do you, how do you guys meet?
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You can say, oh, let me tell you how we met.
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And I remember we studied the book of Ruth when we did that
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few years back. And it dawned on me with the
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backdrop of Genesis 24 with Isaac and Rebecca, you can say
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that that was a supernatural story, right.
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It was still an answer to prayer, though the the request
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was very, very realistic. You look at Ruth and Boaz's
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story and and you don't get any hint of that kind of
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intervention. You see Providence.
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You see a woman who just wants to obey God, and so she does
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what she's called to do as a poor individual.
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She goes and she gleans from, you know, the the, the wheat
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fields and as she's there, just obeying what she's been given
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concerning God's revelation for her life and that season of her
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life. There's Boaz in the same field
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and they meet and they reflect on the fact that there's a
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relationship here so I can actually redeem you.
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I I can actually be kinsman Redeemer.
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So they go to court and they figure it out and there was a
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little bit of an obstacle and they overcame the obstacle and
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they got married. That doesn't sound as exciting
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as Abraham servant praying and God revealing it.
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And then I'm going back to Rebecca's house and sharing that
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story and then all be like, wow, this has to be of God.
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But is is Boa's and Ruth story any less God's will?
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Is there any less of God's leading?
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No, it's not. So don't idolize or romanticize
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this Disney idea of Prince Charming meeting someone.
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Just just trust God's leading and believe that he can lead.
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If not, he tends to mostly lead through Providence more than
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anything else. OK.
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Yeah, I love that I and and just to add on that, I I love how you
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said that's normally God works through ordinary means.
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That's not to say he doesn't work through supernatural means
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like salvation, right? Could God, could Christ appear
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visibly to everyone that he is going to say?
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Absolutely. But he does it through ordinary
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means, through the preaching of God's Word.
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And like when you're looking for a spouse, God has given you all
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of the means to choose a spouse. Praying.
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Seeking the wisdom of the Lord. Reading your Bible right?
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You would I I I'm surprised by how many people struggle.
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Like, is this person for me? Is this person not for me?
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When one's a Christian and one's not a Christian right, it's not
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even a question. So we don't need a supernatural
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sign for that. And also wisdom from other
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believers. I will say that, but go ahead.
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Please go. Yeah, especially your parents.
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Are your parents believers? What do they think are your
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friends? Are your older people in the
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church? They're believers.
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So get around these people with your potential girlfriend or
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boyfriend or future spouse so that they can see they can speak
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into your life. They can see this other person
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probably clearer than you can because they're not distracted
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by. Romance or love or anything like
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that. They can see it from a Christian
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wise perspective as also someone who cares about you as a brother
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or sister in Christ. Absolutely.
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And and the council of many, their safety proverb says right.
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And whenever it speaks about counselors, it's plural.
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So not just even one person, you know, have a few people in your
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life that are mature spiritually, that that you know
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are for you and love you and that you can open up about and
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say this is what this person's like and be honest in your
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assessment of that person, Right.
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Be honest. This is what this person's like,
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you know, their spiritual condition, their actions,
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reactions, interactions, be honest so that you can have the
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best kind of counsel you can get with the clearest evidence that
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you provide. So yeah, it's God has given us
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the same Holy Spirit who can speak prophetically is the same
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Holy Spirit who says and many counselors.
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There is security, right? It's the same Holy Spirit who
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says get get around believers who can speak into your life and
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guide you and help you see blind spots, right?
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Great question. Amen.
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I'll end it with this. Learn from Raya Boehm, right?
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Don't pick all of your friends, people your own age, people with
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the same life experience as you, as your only counselors.
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Learn from the wise, the older, the Gray heads around you.
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It's really good. Amen.
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OK, next question. Why do you baptize in the name
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of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit rather than baptizing in
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the name of Jesus as the apostles did?
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Because Jesus said to Matthew 28 we're commanded by Christ to
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baptize in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
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Where this comes from though is when you read the book of Acts,
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you see this habit of the apostles in the early church
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baptizing purely and exclusively in the name of Jesus.
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And so that has created a trend among some specific
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denominations, namely Oneness Pentecostals will apply that
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where they will baptize in Jesus name only.
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Is this even a big deal? Like what's so important about
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that question? And it is a big deal, One,
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because it's a command that Jesus gave, right?
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And two, there are massive implications in Jesus giving
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that specific set of instructions the formula of our
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baptism. One, it's it's one of the two
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ordinances, right? And two, you are identifying
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with something in your baptism. And what Christ is saying there
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is very special because he uses the singular noun for name,
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doesn't say in the names of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.
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He says singularly in the name of the Father, Son and Holy
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Spirit, which solidifies our belief in our God being triune
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right. Muslims will often ask.
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They ask a lot of things, but they'll often ask.
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Show me where in the Gospels Jesus ever taught the Trinity.
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And I always go to that verse. I'll always go to Matthew 28.
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I see you tell me what it means to baptize in the name of the
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Father, Son and Holy Spirit. What does that mean?
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And that pretty much ends the conversation, at least with that
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question. And so those who who tend to say
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you know you should only baptize in Jesus name because the early
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church and the apostles did don't have a trinitarian
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conviction. Not all, but most.
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So it makes sense why they would use that as an argument.
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But it still begs the question, if Jesus commanded it, why do we
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not see that more often as a pattern in the New Testament,
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namely in in the book of Acts? And I think the reason is
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because Jesus Christ himself was rejected as the Messiah, and
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especially with the Jewish audience.
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The call to be baptized in his name was especially scandalous,
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and it reinforced the identity of Christ that demanded their
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allegiance to and their surrender to and their
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repentance to. And so Jesus being at the
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forefront in the call for baptism was important because of
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what the nation of Israel had done concerning Jesus, what they
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thought about him. And so it was a call to
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acknowledge and pledge their allegiance to Christ to him
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specifically because of the recent events concerning him.
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And so that's the, I think, the best way to explain why they
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emphasize Jesus. And it doesn't override what
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Christ had commanded. Amen.
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Amen. OK.
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The next question comes from a sister.
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She says, why should I have an open womb instead of using
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contraceptives? And I and and I think even
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before you start answering contraceptives, I think we
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should be very clear on definitions, right?
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There's those contraceptives that are abortifacients, Plan B,
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other other contraceptives like that.
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And then there's other contraceptives that prevent
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conception. Right.
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Prevent the egg and the sperm joining together.
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And there's also other contraceptives that aren't even
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medical per se, right? Natural.
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Natural contraceptive. So what do you say?
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This is controversial. Some people feel very strongly
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about this topic and this question.
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And so let's just set a foundation and saying that any
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kind of contraceptive that would induce an abortion or a
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miscarriage is wrong, right? We don't want to kill anything
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because we believe that life is at conception.
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And so that's out of the question, I think where the
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debate is other means that don't necessarily do that, that not
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interfering with life necessarily, but interfering
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with God's sovereign will in that process.
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So here's what I would say. And we have to be careful
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because the Bible doesn't explicitly prohibit this,
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doesn't give clear instructions about this, and so we have to
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operate with wisdom and we have to take the whole council of God
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into consideration. Is the idea of family planning
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wrong? I would argue no, because if we
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use the same line of argumentations that people use
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to deny any kind of birth control, I'm I'm talking about
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the legitimate ideas, we wouldn't use another facets of
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life. So one of the common ideas
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concerning this is people would say, well children are a gift of
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the Lord, why would you try to stop yourselves from receiving a
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gift from him? And I understand that sentiment
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and we have to believe that children are gift of of the
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Lord. But when we look at, for
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example, marriage, we see marriage as a gift as well,
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right? Is it not?
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He finds a wife, finds a good thing and obtains favor from the
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Lord. But just because that in itself
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is a gift. We don't expect every single
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person to get married. We don't demand marriage on
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everyone. In fact, Paul Paul in 1st 27
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says that in the case that he was in the context he was in it,
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it's better that you are as I. And he gives reasons for that.
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Yes, there was persecution that was arising that made marriage
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and and and that worldly care very difficult.
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But he also says, you know, you secure an undivided devotion to
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the Lord in your singleness. So is Paul contradicting?
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What Genesis says, right? Because Genesis is often alluded
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to be fruitful and multiply. Yes, be fruitful and multiply,
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but also says in Genesis it's not good for man to be alone.
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But we don't condemn anybody if they believe by God's leaning
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that they are to be single. They are not dishonoring God in
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that right if they believe that this is something the Lord's
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called them to. And so we have to be careful in
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using these ideas that are from a good place, but to condemn
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others for not having that same convictions as others would
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have. I think there is wisdom and
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regulation, there's wisdom and thinking and and praying, and I
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think where we have to check ourselves in this whole process.
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And I hope they're asking this within the context of marriage.
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I'm assuming they are right. What are your reasons in
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delaying and what is your attitude toward children now?
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If you, as a believing husband and wife, look at children as a
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burden altogether, and you don't want to have children because of
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your personal preferences and your ideas and your goals that
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are disassociated from the Kingdom, then you have to
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actually evaluate your heart and ask yourself, am I operating
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under selfishness here or my reasons for delay?
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Legitimate. But if you as a husband and wife
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are wanting to devote even as a couple time to serve the Lord at
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a certain capacity or you're in a difficult place where you need
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to kind of put things in order before bringing a life into your
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home, but in your heart of hearts, you believe that God
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would want to expand your your home and to fill your quiver,
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that's a different mindset. That has to be, it has to be
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considered even by those who feel very strongly that we
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should allow God's sovereign ways in that beautiful act and
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in our in our covenant with another person.
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So I would say to to just sum everything up.
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I would say that it's not illegal.
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It's not ultimately wrong, but you have to examine your
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attitude and your reasons why. If they are righteous, if they
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are God centered, then you shouldn't feel condemned by
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planning when to have a child. That's how I would answer that.
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Amen. Amen.
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I love that that you know the world says children are a
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burden. It's the Christians who can
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stand out and say children, no matter when I have them or how
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many I have their blessing from the Lord.
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Healthy children, disabled children, adopted children.
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All a blessing from the Lord. That's what sets us apart.
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Amen okay. Next question.
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So what does Jesus mean when he repeatedly uses the term Kingdom
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of God in the Gospels? What must I do to enter it?
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Is it the same as going to heaven?
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How will it arrive? Is it?
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Is it synonymous with the second coming of Christ?
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There's a lot of. Some questions in there.
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Yeah, there were and and I think there are more in the original
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question. So the best way to answer that,
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you read the Gospels. You see Jesus speaking about the
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Kingdom of God, even the Kingdom of heaven.
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I believe that there aren't any significant differences between
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the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of heaven.
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Some would say so. I don't believe so.
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The King of God just speaks about the ruler of the Kingdom.
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The king of heaven just speaks about the Kingdom itself.
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Let's define some terms. What is a Kingdom?
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A Kingdom is any territory that is ruled by a monarch, a king.
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And so if you use that definition, then you can, you
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can say the Kingdom of God. If God has created all things
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and he is sovereign over things, he sustains all things.
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And the Kingdom of God is really everything.
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It's the universe itself. And there are Old Testament
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texts that would prove that that would back that up.
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But you come into more problems when you read the Gospels and
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you read things like repent. For the Kingdom of God is what
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it's at hand. Hold on.
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If a Kingdom is the region that a king rules over.
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God created all things. He rules over all things.
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Surely then everything is his Kingdom.
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Then what does it mean that the Kingdom of God is at hand?
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It's near. It's approaching.
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Now we come to a more narrow and more specific answer.
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Surely the Kingdom of God is about God's sovereign rule and
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reign, but more specifically his sovereign rule and reign through
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the Messiah himself being that ruler.
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In other words, the Kingdom of God is the Son of God ruling and
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reigning on the throne, and that helps clarify many things.
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So when Jesus and Luke 17 is confronted about the Kingdom of
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God, he says it's in the midst of you.
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What do you mean it's in the midst of you?
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It's very simple because the King of the Kingdom was in the
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midst of them, right? And Jesus gave examples and he
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gave demonstrations by invading into his world at the time, by
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demonstrating what it's like for God to sovereignly rule through
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the Messiah, by healing and delivering and forgiving and
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restoring. And so there is an aspect of the
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Kingdom of God that has been inaugurated.
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When Jesus came into the world, it was inaugurated, but the
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fulfillment of it is not. Yet the consummation of the
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Kingdom is still to be awaited. So the same Jesus that the
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Kingdom of God is in the midst of you is the same Jesus who
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told believers to pray your Kingdom come, your will be done
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on earth as it is in heaven. So we are still awaiting the
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consummation of the Kingdom where the Messiah, the Son of
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God, will enter into our world and establish a real throne in a
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real place for 1000 years. So then how do we relate to this
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idea of the Kingdom of God now? Well, I think there's an
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invisible aspect of the Kingdom and then the physical aspect of
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the Kingdom. We are enjoying and living under
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the invisible realities of the Kingdom of God.
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Today. Jesus Christ is king.
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He's sitting at the right hand of God.
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We are citizens of his Kingdom. Now, I wouldn't say that the
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church is the Kingdom of God. Some would make that mistake
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that the church is the Kingdom of God on earth.
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I wouldn't say that because you, you start confusing things.
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We're asking for the Kingdom of God to come.
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Jesus inaugurated the Kingdom when he came.
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I would say that the church is like the embassy of the Kingdom
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of God and that though we are citizens of the Kingdom, we are
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ambassadors in a foreign land, persuading and appealing to
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people to to gain their blood bot citizenship so that they
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would be prepared when the King does come and that they would be
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part of his Kingdom. And through our lives and our
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example, our testimonies, we would show people to some extent
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what it's like to be Kingdom citizens.
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Because he is king of our hearts, He rules in our hearts.
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And so there's an aspect of us that shows what it's like to
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have the governance of God over us.
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And as the Church, the Bride of Christ, we are waiting for the
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Kingdom to be ultimately manifest when Jesus Christ does
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return. So there is and aspect of us
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being part of the Kingdom, Christ being king, we enjoy the
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invisible spiritual realities of that right righteousness, peace
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and joy in the Holy Spirit. That's Romans 1417 where we hear
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about what the Kingdom of God is about.
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And so, yeah, Jesus inaugurates it.
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We wait for it at the same time, and we do our best to represent
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it to the extent that we can, to convince people to be ready for
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the king and to be citizens of his Kingdom.
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Amen. Beautiful.
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OK, this question might lead to a little bit of squirming.
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So a couple years ago the Barnard group did a survey and
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discovered that Christians in America on average gave 3% of
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their income to churches or ministries, which then leads to
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this question. How much should Christians?
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And this question uses tithe or you could use give.
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And then why do many people within the church not tithe?
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When we think about tithing, and that word denotes a 10% right, a
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portion of your income or your resources.
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That was an Old Testament principle, actually was a law,
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and it had an intention. There was a goal with the tithe
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in the old covenant. It was this.
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The Levites had no inheritance. The the tribe of Levi had no
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land to their name. They were supposed to be devoted
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to the the House of God. God was their inheritance and so
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they did not have the same access to the resources as the
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others tribes that. So what did God do in order to
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support the Levites? He called for a tie from the
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other tribes and it actually mounts up to more than 10%.
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If you do the calculations it's more right 2023% even some would
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argue, and the idea is this, the the tribes would then through
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their tides support the Levites as they devoted their their time
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and their energy and their lives really to supervising and to
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serving in the temple. It was to support the Levites.
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Now when you come to the New Covenant, that idea of the
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people of God contributing in order to help those who have
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devoted their lives to fulltime ministry is still there.
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In fact, in First critin 9, Paul goes back to the priesthood to
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make a case for the the the fulltime minister being taken
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care of through his gospel work. He should be compensated through
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his gospel work. The difference though, is how
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that giving should occur. The goal is still the same
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right? You have a people who work and
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they do other things, and they benefit spiritually from those
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who have given their lives over to serving in the ministry.
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But the means and the way we approach that is different.
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There was an actual number given in the old, and I'm sure most of
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you in here know what the standard is.
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According to the New Testament, what's the standard?
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Whatever is on your heart? 2nd Corinthians 9 Second
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Corinthians 9 tells us very plainly in verse seven.
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Each one must give as he decided in his heart.
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That is the clearest instruction that we are given concerning how
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we should give. Here's where I would like to
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challenge people, though, and this challenged me.
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If hearing that you and I go good, I'm glad I don't have to
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give as much as they gave in the Old Testament.
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Thank God. I don't think we're thinking
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right about giving if we're thinking we're in the new
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covenant, so it's less burdensome to us now because we
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don't have to give as much as they had to give.
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We're not thinking right about giving.
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So that's Second Corinthians 9 seven, right?
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When you go to 2nd Corinthians 8 seven, Paul speaking to the same
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people about the same thing, he says something that every single
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time I read it convicts me every single time to this day.
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Let me read it to you, he says here in verse 7.
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But as you excel in everything, he's speaking to the Corinthians
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in faith, in speech, in knowledge, in all earnestness,
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and in our love for you or some transition, say, in your love
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for us. See that you excel in this act
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of grace also. What act of grace is he speaking
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about? Giving.
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He's calling the Corinthian Christians to excel in giving,
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to be excellent in giving. Every time I read that, it
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convicts me. So one preacher said something
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and it just a light bulb went off.
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He said if we are we claim to believe that we are under a
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better covenant, that Christ makes everything better,
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shouldn't that then demand of us?
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Better giving, not less giving, the better giving, more
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rejoicing in our giving, more excitement in our giving.
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More intentionality in our giving.
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If our covenant is better, shouldn't our giving be better?
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I heard that convicted me. And so we we should examine our
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hearts and we should think to ourselves constantly.
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What do I really believe about the gospel, about the local
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church and I'm part of about the value that I received from the
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ministries that I am connected to And whether we like to
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acknowledge it or not, and this is for all of us are giving to
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some extent is an indication of that.
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It is. It's an indication of where our
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value is, where your heart is there, your treasure will be
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also. That's what Jesus said, right.
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So if you want to know where your heart is, what he's saying
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by that is look where your money goes.
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And that is not to say that we should not spend money on
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vacations or good food and events.
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But if in our scope of giving and our scope of how we manage
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and plan our money, investing in the proclamation, the
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advancement, the sustaining of the gospel and the ministries
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that we are part of is not there, then we have to ask
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yourself, how much do I really believe that I am under a better
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covenant and that I really, I really do want this to continue
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and excel? Because whether we want to
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acknowledge it or not, money is a real part of what we do.
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It's it's, it's even here. Do we put our trust in the
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money? No.
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Do we need money? In the sense of if we don't have
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money, we can't do the work of God.
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No, God is our ultimate source. But giving is not so much about
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what God needs because he doesn't need anything.
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It's more for us, and you've said this before, it's an
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invitation for us to participate in something, and it even trains
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us to be reminded that life is beyond what I spend, what I save
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up for here. I want to invest in eternal
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things and for things that will exceed my lifetime and exceed
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this world. So I would say look at your
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heart and and even look at your heart and ask the Lord to make
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you excited about it. Not to under compulsion of or
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merely under duty, but to to to operate under the revelation
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that this is a better covenant. I want to as a result of that
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worship and excel in this grace also, and so let it come from
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that place. And the Holy Spirit will help
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us. He will.
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Yeah, I'm wondering, as you know, let's let's say there's a,
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a Christian out there who really wants to do the right thing by
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the Lord, but they don't know how.
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Do you have any practical advice on giving a percentage you think
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that's good? Just an established percentage
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right from the beginning or a regularity, just just to help
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people in that? Yeah, that's a good question.
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Again, I think Paul's instruction here is clear.
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It will be subjective. Your income, your family
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situation, the season that you're in right now, my demand
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of you something else to the next person, right.
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And giving should never put a strain on you.
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It should never cause you to put yourself in a compromising
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situation at all. And so I would just say have
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conversations. If you're married, have
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conversations with your spouse about it, pray about it.
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Ask Lord, Lord, what is it that you would want us to give
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regularly? Would you want us to give
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periodically? How is it that you would want us
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to do this? And let me also add this.
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I'm not one to just encourage people to throw their money at
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anything, even in the name of ministry.
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Even if somebody, it doesn't matter because I know there are
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a lot of sketchy things out there and you're not supposed to
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back up everything that comes your way just because it's been
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presented to you. You should be careful where your
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money goes. You should, you should be able
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to investigate and say, I trust this leadership, I trust this,
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their vision. I see how biblical they are.
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And so just to put anything in an offering plate to say that
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you give, I don't think the Bible even encourages that kind
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of giving. Even if you're giving to a
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ministry, you have to be careful.
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You have to be wise. You have to be steward of the
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resources that you have been granted by the Lord and so be
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careful, be strategic, look into things, ask questions.
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And that's why even here we want to be as transparent as possible
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with our finances. That's why in our members
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meeting we show you everything. And if you have even deeper
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questions, you have every right to come to our leadership and
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say, hey, we want because it's we don't see it as our money.
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This is God's money and This Is Us as as a family coming
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together to put in our resources because we have this collective
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goal of advancing the Kingdom and advancing the Kingdom.
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Looks like at this point of our ministry saving up for a
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building because we want a place to host the ministries that we
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are enjoying here and to make room for more people to enjoy it
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as well. So yeah, don't don't be naive
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and you're giving and I'll give you proof of that when you go to
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first time V5. There was a whole system
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established even back then about which widow should receive
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financial support. Paul didn't believe this idea
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where people can come in and just say I'm in need.
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I'm a widow. He goes, OK, who are you?
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How have you served the Saints? How old are you?
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There's this whole list of qualifications that Paul had in
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mind about where the money should go.
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So not just anybody who comes in with rags or with a need demands
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the priority of our resources. We have to be very, very careful
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where that goes because people will manipulate.
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People are evil. People know the generosity and
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the charity of Christians that will take advantage of that.
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And so we have to be very, very cautious and wise and how we
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approach that. And you should be just the same
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with your giving. Great.
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So we have several more. How many more do you think we, I
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don't know, how you guys doing? All right, keep going.
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In a premillennial view, some eschatology here.
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Now the Millennium includes a new temple with the
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reinstatement of animal sacrifices.
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Skeptics bring up 4 flaws with that delegitimately
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delegitimatize this view from being a viable.
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Based being viable based mainly on the sacrifices with some
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attention to the temple itself. And then they this person lists
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some of the objections. Yeah, we can hear them.
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I think it's good. Well can we just pause and does
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that already on catching on to what was just said.
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So there is a belief that during the millennial reign of Christ,
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after the tribulation period, when Christ does return
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physically and establishes his Kingdom on earth, many who hold
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to that view also would say that there will be a temple during
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the Millennium and that temple will actually have a function
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and in that function there will be a priesthood and there will
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be animal sacrifices. And so the there are those who
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obviously oppose that view and we're about to hear that main
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objections to that. What's the purpose of a temple?
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Being reintroduced when Jesus Christ comes to rule.
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And so we all understand the question so far.
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So now we're going to hear the main objections, and they're
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they're good objections, but we'll we'll address them.
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Yeah, the first one is why do we have that If Christ Atonement
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being once and for all time was already accomplished, well, why
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don't we read all of them and it maybe we'll just yeah.
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Okay. So Christ Atonement being once
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and for all time. That's the first objection.
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The second one is. God's displeasure with animal
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sacrifices. 3 God's establishment of his bride as
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the temple removes the possibility of a physical
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temple. And then lastly, God instituted
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a proper way of remembrance known as communion.
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Great question. I love this question.
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It's a deep question. The idea of a temple being
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erected during the Millennium period is not a random thought.
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It comes from the book of Ezekiel.
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So when if you, if you've read Ezekiel, you know that Ezekiel
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40 to 48 is dedicated to the detailed blueprint of this
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glorious temple. And it's so detailed.
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I mean, there's 8 chapters dedicated to it.
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And within those chapters you have even instructions of what
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is to be happening in that temple.
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For those who would not hold to that because of these arguments
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that there will be a physical temple during the million and
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they would say about Ezeka 40 to 40, that's it's allegorical,
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it's speaking about the church, it's speaking about believers.
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It's speaking about Christ. In some regard.
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It's it can't be literal because it just doesn't make sense in
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light of what Christ will accomplish and what he has
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instituted in the New Covenant. And so they would say from 40 to
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48, it's it's purely allegorical, it's symbolic and
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it's meeting. It's not to be taken literally.
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I am among those who would believe that Ezekiel's temple is
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literal for the simple reason that it is given to us to be
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understood literally. And so when you read Ezekiel 40
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to 48, there's something interesting that pops up of an
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Ezekiel 43, verse 10. I want to read it to you.
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And it says here, As for you, son of man, describe to the
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House of Israel the Temple, that they may be ashamed of their
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iniquities, and they shall measure the plan.
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And if they are ashamed of all that they have done, make known
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to them the design of the temple, its arrangements, its
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exits and its entrances, that is its whole design.
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And make known to them as well all its statutes and its whole
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design and all its laws, and write it down in their site, so
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that they may observe all its laws and all its statutes and
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carry them out. That can't.
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That can't open up the possibility that what you see in
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Ezekiel 40 to 48, then, is allegorical, because Ezekiel was
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instructed to take the actual blueprint and to read it out
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loud, and to make it known to the people of Israel to inspire
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holiness, to forsake their sin. And say we want that temple, we
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want that kind of glory. So if we, because of those
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arguments, want to dismiss the literal interpretation, I think
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an allegorical interpretation opens you up to more questions
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than actual answers personally. So then what do we do with this?
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Because I think the burden is not so much on those who would
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say that this is a reality. I believe the burden here based
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on those objections is, OK, fine, it is a literal what's the
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purpose of it? Then how do we understand its
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function? And how do we reconcile that
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with our faith and our covenant? And that's where I understand
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where the tension is. There are many things to say
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about this, and I think the main problem that people have is the
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idea of the sacrifices more than an actual temple, it's the
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sacrifices themselves. And here's what I would say to
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somebody who would then, if you first can say confidently, okay,
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this is a real temple. Ask yourself this question.
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Has this temple ever been realized in history?
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No, it hasn't. It wasn't recognized in
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Solomon's temple. It wasn't recognized in Ezra's
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temple. It wasn't recognized in Herod's
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temple. This kind of manifestation has
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never been known. More than that, when you read
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Revelation 21, you will see explicitly that there will be no
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temple. We're told that in Revelation 21
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there will be no temple. But that's speaking about the
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eternal age, because Christ will be there, right?
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We don't need a temple. So then we got to fit this
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somewhere. If it's never been recognized
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before, if it's not going to be realized in the eternal age,
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then what What do we have left? The Millennium?
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The tribulation? There will be a temple, right?
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Paul alludes to that when he speaks about the desecration of
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the temple and 2nd Thessalonians.
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But the shifts that will happen geographically, the shifts that
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will happen in the world might demand that there would be a new
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temple and that would fulfill what is Ezekiel's prophesying.
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So, OK, it's there. So then why the sacrifices?
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Why all these different things that seem to contradict what
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Christ has done? And here's the thing that I
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would challenge you with, and this would maybe encourage you
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to do further Bible study. When you look at even Paul as an
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example, maybe you've never thought about this.
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If you read Acts carefully, there is an instance where Paul
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himself actually post experience with Christ, participates in
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some of the rituals and ceremonies in the temple of his
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day. Does anybody know where where
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I'm thinking, anybody know what I'm referring to?
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I mean, Dan, you've preached to the Acts, right?
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So in Acts 21 you read of James and you can turn there because I
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want you to see this and I want to.
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There's a reason why I'm bringing this to your attention.
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In Acts 21 you read of James telling Paul and encouraging
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Paul to take four men who were under a vow.
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And it's believed that the vow was a Nas right vow and to go to
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the temple and to have them purified and to actually pay for
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their expenses concerning the purification procedure.
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So I want to read that to you. Verse 23 do.
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Therefore what we tell you. He's speaking to Paul.
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Here we have four men who are under a vow.
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Take these men and purify yourself along with them and pay
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their expenses so that they may shave their heads.
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Thus all will know that there is nothing in what they have been
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told about you, but that you yourself also live in observance
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of the law Here Is James concerned?
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There were all of these rumors that Paul was going around
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preaching that he is anti law, he's anti Torah, that he wants
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to dismiss and cancel all that the covenants that the Jews have
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known. He he just now is presenting
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this new concept altogether. Dismissing that and James like
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for the sake of your testimony would you just go ahead and do
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this to prove that that is not the case And Paul agrees he
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agrees. You read in verse 26.
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Then Paul took the men and the next day he purified himself
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along with them and went into the temple giving notice when
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the days of purifications would be fulfilled and the offering
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presented for each one of them. Now if you look at if this is an
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ass right vow. If you go to numbers and you
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look at the whole protocol for Nazarete, included in the
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Nazarete vow was not just to extend your hair length but was
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also animal sacrifices. So what do we have here?
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We have Paul post salvation, teaching others about the
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sufficiency of Christ's sacrifice, willing to partner
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with men who underwent A ceremonial law in the temple.
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You know what some people say about Paul?
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He was wrong. Paul was actually in sin, that
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he caved under the pressure and he did something that he
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shouldn't have done. You know why I have problems
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with that? Because if Paul is wrong, James
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is wrong too, because he's the one who told him to do it.
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And if Paul is wrong, then why? Later in a couple of chapters,
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when he gives testimony of what happened, he he speaks about
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this incident and there is no sense that he's in the wrong for
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doing what he did. He speaks about him coming into
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the temple. He's, he's disclosing the event
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that led to his arrest, and he speaks about this moment.
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So then what do we what do we have here?
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I believe we have Paul, who is able to, with a clear conscience
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to some level, participate in these rituals and ceremonies
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because in his mind, he did not see redemptive qualities or
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properties in his participation of it.
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He does the same thing with Timothy with circumcision,
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right? So here's what I want to just
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propose as a possibility. If you see this example with
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Paul in the temple, partnering with some of these Jewish
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believers in their participation of the rituals of the Levitical
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law, is it so hard to believe that in the Millennium there
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will be some of this, not to atone for sin, not to undermine
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the blood of Jesus Christ, but for other purposes?
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That's all I'm suggesting to you, right?
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There is no way that Paul approached this because he
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thought that in doing so he would have some of his sins
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cleansed. And when you, when you think
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about it that way, then it opens up the the possibility that in
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the Millennium, because where people feel strongly about this
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is you're actually blaspheming Christ by thinking that you're
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reintroducing the Mosaic system. When Christ is ruling A
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reigning, he's the fulfillment of it.
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Which I would also say, if you read Ezekiel's instructions from
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40 to 48 very carefully, you don't have a reintroduction to
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the Mosaic system. You know why?
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Because a lot of those feasts are not reintroduced, including
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the Day of Atonement. Some of the furnishings that
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were there in Solomon's Temple in the Tabernacle are not there
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again. So we're not reintroducing the
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Levitical law in the Millennium. We're not doing that.
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So we got to eliminate that. And though we may not know the
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full answers to why those things will be in practice, we can be
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rest assured that Christ will be honored and glorified His
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sacrifices atonement will reign triumphant as the reason why we
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glory in him, and that nothing will interfere or conflict with
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that. I mean Paul didn't even in Acts
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21. As a born again believer, I hope
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that makes sense. At least entertain the
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possibility with the evidences throughout scripture.
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Yeah. Thank you.
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Alright, this next question, I love the heart behind this
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question. I don't know who submitted it,
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but it it it really speaks to me as far as the the really
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concerned this person has. So when we look around the
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landscape of the church today, whether it be different
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churches, denominations, organizations, Christian
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colleges and seminaries, some pastors and ministry leaders,
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even family members, we often see more secular and cultural
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ideologies permeating how people think.
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And what they practice and preach rather than the truth and
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the gospel of Christ. Here's the question, How do we
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best speak out against this when we see it?
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I know every situation is different, but I wrestle at
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times with whether my discontent is of a holy indignation and
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from a place of true love and zeal for the Lord and others, or
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if I am being self-righteous or judgmental in a way that is not
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pleasing to God. Do you have any advice on how to
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react with practical wisdom in these situations with others,
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whether it be at home, work or social media?
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When should we speak out and when should we stay silent?
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Such a good question, and in some way it might tie into the
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first question of this session, though not entirely.
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But I would first say to this person's heart that you
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shouldn't condemn yourself for feeling this way about clear
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opposition and contradiction to the word of God being done in
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the name of Christ and among those who claim to be leaders
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for Christ. And I would say, hone that, own
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that, praise God for that, and ask God to harness your feelings
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so that it wouldn't cause you to act in unrighteousness.
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But even the disciples, when they saw Jesus enter into that
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temple in John Chapter 2 and overthrew the money changers,
John 2 chapter mention
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they saw that zeal and they realized zeal for his house will
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consume him. So there is a righteous zeal
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that we should feel when it comes to the purity and the
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integrity and the honor that God should have in his house and
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with his word. And so if you feel that passion,
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I I applaud that because there's some people who care less and
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they're so consumed with their own lives that they're not
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consumed with the glory of God. And so I applaud that that heart
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for the honor of the Lord Jesus. But the question is followed up
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with, how do I express this? How do I deal with this?
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And that indicates that there are people in this person's life
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that are proposing this, that are preaching this, that are
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sharing this, that are teaching this.
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And so I would say, as he said and and he's on to something,
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that the format will demand a different approach, right.
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And so from a preaching standpoint, we got to deal with
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it as clearly and as authoritatively as possible, to
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call it out for what it is and to denounce it and to condemn
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it, and to be very direct. But that's not the case for many
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believers. So what the What should they do?
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I would say, in hearing that, depending on the extent of your
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relationship with other believers who might be
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entertaining these ideologies and these philosophies and these
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wrong doctrines have conversations with them, right?
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And so we're told there in Second Timothy how the Lord's
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servant should be. And that includes being gentle
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and patiently enduring evil and being able to interact with
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people in a certain way so that you would win them and that they
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would come to their senses and escape the snare of Satan.
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So there is a call for conversational and respectable
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dialogue. And the best way to do it again,
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is from Jesus's method to ask questions to say you know, or to
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invite somebody out to say, you know, I saw these things that
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you're posting and I heard that you believe these things.
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I'm curious, no more Can I ask more about that?
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And maybe it's a colleague from work where you take a lunch
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break and you have that time or if it's a family member, but you
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want to have a conversation with them because those people
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assumingly believe that this, whatever they're believing in is
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of God, is God's will, God's word.
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And they're interpreting things. So have that conversation with
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them and hear them out and then deal with it accordingly and
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guide them. Usually when you give people a
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chance to speak, they tend to give you a chance.
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And I know some people are not like that, but some most are.
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And have those conversations and trust that those conversations
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can be fruitful and that and and here's what I always say, don't
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feel like you have to win that person in the first conversation
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or that first kind of interaction.
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Believe that the seed that you plant can actually be enough for
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them to wrestle with what they hold to.
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So be patient, be patient with them, and I would say just ask
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God to continue to fuel that passion in your heart and for
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platforms, be able to just testify if His truth and for
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divine appointments with people to hear what you have to say
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concerning the truth. And I'm sure the Lord will honor
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that in a day of age where people are very afraid to speak
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out what God has to say. So.
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Wonderful. All right, this is the last
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question. You know, I don't think it's any
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shock to anybody that in America we live in a very litigious
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society. People love to sue other people,
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but the people love to threaten to sue other people.
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So this question says when is it right for Christians to seek
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legal action in Scripture? We do not take our brothers to
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court, but instead forgive. But what about unbelievers?
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The word says vengeance is the Lord.
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So is there ever a time when we should, as Christians, take
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legal actions? I think you should answer that
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question too, with your history and your background.
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And I will ask that I'll give an answer and please add on to it.
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Here's what I would say based on scripture.
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There is a clear call that believers should suffer wrong
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instead of taking each other to court.
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Because protecting the testimony is the testimony of crisis far
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greater than you gaining extra money or getting payback.
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But what do we do with unbelievers?
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And I would say that Paul's mentality with the believers,
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the principle that he's operating under, overlaps even
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with how we interact with unbelievers to some extent.
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What was Paul's mindset when he talked taught that in First
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Scrinthian 6, your rights, no matter how strongly you feel
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about them, should be in subject to the greater cause of the the
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person, the nature, and the message of Jesus Christ.
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And so if you, surrendering your rights protects and Shields from
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an unbelieving world, a possible scorn, mockery, disdain, then
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sacrifice your rights. And Paul did that for himself
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and 1st Corinthians 9. He said, I have the right to
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demand material benefit from you as I benefit you spiritually.
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But I surrender that right because I don't want anybody
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else to say Paul's preaching to gain money from you.
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And Paul's like, I'd rather glory in that than to demand
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something of you. So I'm not going to ask you
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anything for the gospel. And in the same chapter there he
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tells the same church to give to ministers.
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So Paul, he's, he's in a different world and his
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thinking, he's in a different world constantly with any
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situation or circumstances. He's always thinking this in the
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forefront of his mind. What would bring most glory to
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Christ in this? What would limit scandal?
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What would protect my testimony ultimately, as I deal with the
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situation and sometimes, depending on the situation, that
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would require you to actually exercise your legal right.
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And Paul does that. And we taught a Bible study on
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that. Remember, in Act 16, him and him
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and Silas were arrested. And then they go to the jailer's
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house, they're converted. And then the magistrate come and
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they say, hey, we were wrong. We're sorry, we didn't mean to
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arrest you. You guys can leave now.
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No issue, no court case. It's all done.
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We dropped the case, right? We dropped all charges.
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You know what Paul does? He goes, no, no, no, no, no.
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You're not letting us go. Actually, we want you to escort
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us out. And pious Christians in 2023
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would say, Paul, that's not Christ.
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Like we're people of peace. Go about your way and fulfill
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your ministry. You know what Paul would say
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with you? No, I'm not going anywhere.
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Was Paul bitter? Did Paul want to get something
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back? No, he was.
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He's he was operating under the same principle and conviction as
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he was when he told the believers that he would not
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exercise his right to gain anything from the materially for
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his spiritual service, in what sense?
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What happened? What happened to Paul and Silas?
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They were publicly condemned. They were publicly arrested.
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They were publicly shamed and there was little information
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given about their arrest. The last thing that the people
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saw was that these missionaries who came into Phillip Eye are
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now arrested. Surely did something wrong and
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illegal to warrant that. And Paul knew that.
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So Paul says, I'm not going to let the last thing that they saw
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be us getting arrested. You have to bring us out and
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show everybody that we were actually innocent.
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Why? For the sake of the gospel.
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For the sake of the testimony of Christ.
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And so when it comes to promoting the gospel, when it
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comes to protecting the gospel, protecting.
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His, his, his glory, his name, his purpose on the earth.
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Through the church, we should utilize the freedoms that we
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have. I think the greatest example of
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that is what we've been experiencing the past few years
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when we've been told that you can't gather and meet under the
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name of safety and healthcare and loving your neighbor even.
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And many churches have taken the stand and and took the legal
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route to say no, we have the right to meet.
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This is our right. We should for what purpose?
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In order for us to fulfill what God called us to fulfill.
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In order for us to protect what God called us to protect an
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honor, and that is to meet together as the church.
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And so that is legitimate. God would applaud that according
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to His word. That wisdom is granted through
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Paul's example, many other incidents for us to be
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encouraged to say, yes, this, this, this is something that we
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can do for the good of our God and His glory.
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Now, I know that this is probably more impersonal things,
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personal matters. I understand that I would have
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to hear the situation to give any kind of counsel or advice.
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But I would say you're always safe by using Paul's mindset in
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all situations. And at sometimes we'll call you
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to say I'm letting this go. In other situations it would say
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I can't let this, I can't let this go because this will cost
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more for my faith and for others and for the wellbeing of the
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church and the message of the church.
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So we must fight. So we will fight.
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That's how I would answer that. What would you add?
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Yeah. You know, it's interesting in in
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in I know this is talking about lawsuits against unbelievers,
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but I I, I think it's important to talk about.
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You know there's some some Christians who say that even if
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a crime was committed against me by somebody, an unbeliever, I'm
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not going to go to police. I'm not going to go to court
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because I that's what the Bible says.
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I I would just caution, especially when you're dealing
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in crimes, right, whether it's spousal abuse, whether it's.
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God forbid somebody murders someone that you know and you're
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a witness to it or something, or whether you get called for jury
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duty on a criminal case, believe it or not.
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So one of the questions that I asked him in when I did criminal
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juries is, do you have any religious beliefs that would
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cause you to not be able to sit in judgment against someone
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else? Because you have some Christians
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who say I will not judge him because I'm a Christian and.
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Judge not lest you be judged, right.
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That's what they say. I I think that's a
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misapplication of what of what Christ is saying there.
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And I think actually as Christians we have a duty to to
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work with the work with the government in criminal cases
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because ultimately what what criminal cases are about is an
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offense against the people around you, the people of the
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state of Illinois. That's who's on the one side of
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this, this criminal case, the people of the state of Illinois
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versus the defendant. And I believe it's our job as
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Christians to help the government do their job.
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The government's job is to call good, good, call evil, evil,
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punish the evil doer. Right.
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And as good citizens, as Christian citizens, it is our
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job to cooperate with that, whether it's being a witness in
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a criminal case or a member of the jury in a criminal case.
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Lawsuits against believers. You know, I, I, I know people
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who love. Clear, Black and white.
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Yes or no. Yes or no.
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But it's not the case in in in most things, I would say, and I
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absolutely agree sometimes, yeah, you do give up your right.
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You say I'm not going to sue, but sometimes you do have to say
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and looking at the Bible, yeah, it's actually my responsibility
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to sue. How about the hospital?
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Who's so negligent that they mess up something in your
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surgery or something? Well, guess what?
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If you don't pursue legal action against them, they're going to
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do it to somebody else. So you might not be seeking
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1,000,000 or $10 million, but I believe as the responsible
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Christians, we have to make sure this wrong does not continue.
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Or as Daniel said, you know, there's Christian law firms
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every day suing, using the civil, criminal, civil court
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system to advocate for the rights of the the.
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The coach who wants to pray before a football game, Or the
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nurse who won't do abortions and then gets fired, Or the cake
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Baker who won't make a specially designed cake because it goes
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against his Christian beliefs. These are absolutely legitimate
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lawsuits. We see it in Paul, not just in
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Philippians, but also in acts. Right as he was arrested.
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I appeal to Caesar, right? What a Caesar.
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You shall go. And then we see what the Lord
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does. As Paul uses that system that's
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in place, we see how the Lord uses Paul even for the good of
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so many other people as he's following through in that
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process. So, yeah, hope that helps.
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I hope it helps to help me. Amen.
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Well, that concludes our Q&A. I hope you guys are edified and
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blessed. We love when questions come in
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because it sharpens us and it encourages us to kind of examine
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things in a deeper level. And so we were so blessed.
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There are many, many other questions, obviously.
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I mean it's it's close to 9:00. So we we enjoyed it.
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We hope you didn't feel the the time when we just want to pray
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and give God glory for all these things that were discussed.
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Would you like to pray for us? Heavenly Father, you are good
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and your mercy endorsed forever. Lord, your word is so good
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sharper than any two edged sword.
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Lord, your word gives life. Where else should we go?
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Lord, you have the words of eternal life.
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And thank you for the wisdom from Pastor Daniel and the
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guidance. And thank you for the questions
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where brothers and sisters are truly wanting to do what is
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right according to your word. May you give us all wisdom.
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May you give us all discernment. Supernatural understanding
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illuminate our hearts and our minds as we read.
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Lord, shower us with Your grace. May we live lives that are
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pleasing to you, and may You transform us every day more into
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the image of Christ in our thoughts and our words and our
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actions. You are good, Lord, in Jesus
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name we pray. Amen.
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Amen. Well, why don't we sing one more
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song and closing. Shall we do that?