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God’s Heart Revealed Through The Generations | Presence: Christmas at Riverbend (Part One)
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Thank you so much for listening to Riverbend Church's podcast.
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Riverbend Church exists to bring people to Jesus, grow
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generations in Jesus, and send disciples for Jesus.
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We hope that you enjoy this message.
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Well, good morning Riverbend. My name is Nathan Evans and I'm
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the next Gen. pastor here Riverbend.
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And if you're a guest with us today, I want to say thank you
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for being here. I'm excited that you're here.
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I'm excited that we get to worship together.
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And I would also say that you're in good company because my
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family and I, we are also new to Riverbend.
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So we've only been here for about 6 months and I've got a
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picture to show you of my family.
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We maybe you've seen us in the halls, maybe you haven't had a
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chance to meet us. But it's my wife Stephanie. her
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and I have been married for 19 years and our three kids, we
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have Clay who's 13 and Peyton who's 11 and Caroline who is 6
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years old. So it's been a lot of answered
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prayers getting us to Riverbend and it's just been a blessing
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just to see how God has been working and moving in this
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church and in our lives. And we're just excited to be a
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part of the Riverbend family. So today I get the opportunity.
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Pastor Ben has trusted me, whether wise or not, to kick off
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the series for Christmas called Presents.
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And so this series is going to be focusing on the heart of God,
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really focusing in on how the heart of God is revealed for his
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people throughout the Christmas season.
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And so if you received notes this morning in your packet, we
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have our big idea. So the big idea for this, for
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this series that's going to be going with us for the next few
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weeks is that Christmas isn't just the story of Jesus's birth.
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It's the story of God's heart. And how true that is.
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The Christmas isn't just about Jesus's birth.
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It's the story of God's heart. This week we're going to look at
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some of Jesus's family and we're going to really see how the
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presence of God really shaped the next generation.
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And as you know, I don't have to tell you anything that you don't
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know, but family is very a unique thing.
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It's times very chaotic and very complicated.
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And when we get to the Thanksgiving and Christmas, that
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holiday season, it just seems to kind of add to the complexity of
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that dynamic. And I think some of you probably
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can relate that when you think of family, you just like, Oh my
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goodness, like family. Like if you just knew family and
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you're thinking of the chaos and you're thinking of the craziness
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that goes on in your family, you know, thinking about maybe the
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last time the police were called during Thanksgiving.
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I don't know. It's just it's one of those hard
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things to think of, of like, why was God?
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Why did he put me in this family?
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And you just kind of have to chalk it up to God's sense of
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humor at times. And then there's others of you,
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you're like, Nah, I don't, I don't get that.
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Because my family, we are best friends.
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We do everything together. We have we, we have
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Thanksgiving, we have Christmas, we have every other holiday, we
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spend time together and it's just perfect.
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And everybody else thinks it's perfect too, because of all your
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pictures that you put put on social media.
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And it I would say it's not necessarily that it's all
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perfect so that you're just really good at covering things
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up. Because the truth is, is that
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all families have their issues. All families have their dark
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side. And sometimes others are better
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at covering up than some. But family is just complicated.
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And today, as we look back at Jesus's family, we're going to
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see that Jesus's family was no different than ours.
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There were issues that they faced, their problems and sins
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that marked their past and how God was able to work through
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them. And Matthew really shows us in
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Matthew chapter 1, he really shows us that God is able to
Matthew 1 chapter mention
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work despite the sins of our past.
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You know, Matthew, he was, he was writing to a Jewish audience
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and as he wrote, he was breaking barriers, cultural barriers and
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gender barriers and, and racial barriers all by just listing
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people as a part of Jesus's family.
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And like I just said, Matthew was used by God to show us that
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despite the issues that our family face, our families today,
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that God can still use us despite our sins of our past.
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So if you will just turn with me to Matthew chapter #1 and if you
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don't have your Bible with you today, that's OK.
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We have the scripture that'll be on the screen behind us.
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And I want to just kind of set the stage as you're, you're
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turning in your Bible. So in, in ancient Israel, when
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Matthew was writing this, he, he understood the cultural norms
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and he understood that your pedigree mattered.
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So what family you're a part of it.
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It really mattered. So if you had nobility or
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royalty in your family, then your status in the community was
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and everybody revered you and they had respect for you
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automatically because of what family you came from.
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If your family was shepherds and handmaids, then you just didn't
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have really much respect in the community.
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Nobody really trusted you very much.
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But Matthew was was showing us and he was speaking to us and
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showing us that it doesn't matter what family we come from.
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He understood those cultural norms.
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But he still listed the good and the bad and the ugly characters
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of Jesus's family. And now I know you're probably
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already looking at Matthew chapter 1 and you're thinking,
Matthew 1 chapter mention
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ma'am, like this is not really one of my top 10 passages.
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If you, if you look at it, there's a lot of really weird
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names. And we're going to read the
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whole thing. We are we're going to commit to
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it. We're going to get through every
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name that's listed in the 1st 17 verses.
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But what we have to remember, this is just amazing to think
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of, is that God had been silent for 400 years, and this is what
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He chose to break His silence over.
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This is what He used to break into this world and to really
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speak to His people once again. So if you will look with me at
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Matthew chapter #1 as I read and we'll start in verse #1 it says
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the book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the son of David,
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the son of Abraham. Abraham was the father of Isaac,
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and Isaac the father of Jacob. And Jacob the father of Judah
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and his brothers. And Judah the father of Perez
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and Zerah by Tamar. And Perez, the father of Hezron.
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And Hezron the father of Ram. And Ram the father of Aminadab.
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And Aminadab the father of Nishan.
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And Nishan the father of Salman. And Salman the father of Boaz by
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Rahab. And Boaz the father of Obed by
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Ruth And Obed the father of Jesse.
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And Jesse the father of David the king.
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And David was the father of Solomon, by the wife of Uriah,
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And Solomon the father of Rehoboam, And Rehoboam the
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father of Abijah, And Abijah the father of Asaph.
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And Asaph the father of Jehoshaphat.
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And Jehoshaphat the father of Joram.
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And Joram the father of Uzziah. And Isaiah the father of Jotham,
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And Jotham the father of Ahaz. And Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,
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And Hezekiah the father of Manasseh, And Manasseh the
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father of Amos, And Amos the father of Josiah.
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And Josiah the father of Jeconiah and his brothers at the
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time of the deportation to Babylon.
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And after the deportation to Babylon, Jeconiah was the father
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of Sheltiel, and Sheltiel the father of Zerubbabel, and
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Zerubabel the father of Abayud. And Abayud the father of
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Eliakim, And Eliakim the father of Azor, And Azor the father of
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Zedek. And Zedek the father of Achim.
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And Achim the father of Achim. And Azor, the father of Zezar,
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the father of Zadic and Zedek, the father of Achim and Achim,
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and, and the father of Jacob. And Jacob, the father of Joseph,
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the husband of Mary, of whom Jesus was born, who is called
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Christ. So all the generations from
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Abraham to David were 14 generations and from David to
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the deportation to 14 generations and from the
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deportation to to Babylon to the Christ, 14 generations.
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That is a lot. So I hope you got all that
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because we're having a quiz before you leave today.
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I'm just joking. I'm just joking.
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At first glance, when you go through all of these names, it's
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pretty easy to pick up on a, on a few of the names that you know
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of that are that are royalty, that are noble in that day.
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But the theme that you see that repeats itself all throughout
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this lineage right here is this. The cost of repentance is
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cheaper than resistance. The cost of repentance is
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cheaper than resistance. I want us to kind of let that
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sink into us as we go through just a few of these, these
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people in Jesus family. So many we look at, we know
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their sins right off because we remember them through stories
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that we've been told in Scripture that we've read of how
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they sinned and they messed up really bad.
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But so many were willing to repent and confess those sins
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before God and he forgave them and was able to use them despite
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their sin. But there's others in this list
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that continually resisted the presence of God and their lives
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continually pushed back on God. And we'll talk about some of the
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destruction that came along with that.
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Now, this list is a, it's a miracle in and of itself that we
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have this list and this lineage of Jesus, because in Jesus's
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days there there had been several conflicts and different
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wars that had happened where many of these scrolls that that
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contained all of this information have been destroyed.
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So for Matthew to be able to pull it together and be able to
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have it is just a miracle in and of itself.
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But Matthew also knew who would be reading this passage.
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He knew who would be reading this lineage.
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He knew the religious leaders of the day would be looking at
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this. They would be vetting this list,
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they would be investigating to make sure that Jesus is who he
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says he is. It's, it's kind of, almost like
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Matthew was kind of provoking these religious leaders saying,
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hey, prove me wrong and causing them to have to go back through
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scripture and to really prove and see who Jesus is.
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What Matthew was trying to do, he was trying to pull them into
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the light and show them really who Jesus was.
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You know, those religious leaders, they still exist today.
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We see them in churches all over and, and you, you know who they
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are. They're those that, that they,
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they grew up in church. You know, we don't call them
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Pharisees and Sadducees anymore. That's that's something that the
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ancient Jews use those terms. But we see them today.
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It's that person that they wear their religion on their sleeve.
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It's kind of like a, a badge of honour.
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You know, their, their parents and their, their grandparents,
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They, they served as leaders of the church and they've kind of
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lean on that and they're trusting in the works of their
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parents and of their grandparents.
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They're trusting in their own works.
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And they're living at a very high moral standard.
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But there's a problem. The problem is, is that morality
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and work is not the qualifier to get to heaven.
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It's not the qualifier to get access to our loving God.
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It's not the qualifier to be able to come into the presence.
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Repentance and believing is, as I said, these self-righteous
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people that we experience. Maybe we have.
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We can identify that in our own lives.
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At times they're neglecting the fact that they need a personal
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relationship with Christ. Matthew was trying to show these
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religious leaders and kind of bring them into the light out of
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the darkness so they could clearly see who Jesus was.
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So I want you to write this down the the grace of God shines
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brightest in the darkest places. The grace of God shines
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brightest in the darkest places. There's several dark and very
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sinful moments that were brought to light through Jesus's family
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tree, so I wanted to show us just a few of those this
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morning. We'll start and begin with
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Abraham. Abraham was the founder and he
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was the first Jew. God chose him out of the region
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of Mesopotamia, and he said, Abraham, if you'll just follow
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me everywhere you walk, everywhere that your foot
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touches, I'll give you that land.
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And if you follow me faithfully, then every one of your seed will
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bless. Every one of the nations will be
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blessed by your seed. And Abraham had great faith and
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he followed God. But Even so, he still was human,
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just as you and I. He still had a sin nature, just
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as you and I, and he had an issue sinning.
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And he liked to lie. At least we see it several times
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in Scripture when he was in front of the high priest
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Mechezdek, and when he was in front of Pharaoh, he lied.
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He said that Sarah was his sister, not his wife.
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And for some you may think, well, that's what's the big
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deal. Well, Abraham was trusting or
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was fearful of what would happen to him if they found out that
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Sarah was his wife. He was afraid that the high
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priest or that Pharaoh would have him killed because they had
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the power to do so, so that they could take Sarah as their wife.
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So instead of trusting God in those moments, he chose to lie.
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If we go down just a few generations, we have Tamar.
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Tamar's not even a Jew, she's a Canaanite.
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How? How strange is that, that just a
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few generations in and we're already at somebody who's not,
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who doesn't fit the mold, somebody who's different.
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She's a Canaanite. Not only that, she has a very
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dark past. See, Tamar committed incest with
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her father-in-law, Judah. Now you've heard the name Judah
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before. If you know of the children of
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Israel and the tribes of Israel, you may have heard of Judah as
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one of those tribes. And this is that Judah they're
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named after. Tamar veiled herself and she
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went in committed incest, and through that still comes the
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lineage of Christ. There's still grace in those
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moments. It was culturally inappropriate
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for Matthew to have included her in this lineage, but he did
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anyways. In fact, he didn't just include
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her, he include five women total in Jesus lineage to break these
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cultural norms. The next person we look at is
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another woman, another Canaanite.
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This time it's the prostitute Rahab.
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She was a Jerichoite. She she hid the spies, the
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Israeli spies that were going to, to gather Intel on Jericho
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to be able to come back and to be able to, to conquer the city.
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And so she hid them in her home when the soldiers were coming by
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looking for them. And because of that, God's grace
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just was poured over her and over her family.
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And she was saved in the moment when Jericho fell.
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Another few generations down. We have Ruth, another woman, a
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Moabitus from the country of Moab, an accursed nation, as
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Scripture says. This was Scripture says that
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that Moab was born out of incest and it was accursed.
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That means that the Jews were to have no dealings with these
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people. But yet here we are, and we have
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Ruth as a part of this lineage of Jesus.
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Then we get to the highlight and the pinnacle of Jewish history
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and we have David, King David. You know him well from stories.
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You know about his his God using him to defeat Goliath.
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You hear about his the Psalms that he's written.
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He's called the apple of God's eye.
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Such an amazing person in scriptures, one that's so highly
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revered, but yet his life is marked with adultery and with
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murder to cover it up. Then there's and then there's
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Bathsheba. She's unnamed in this, but is
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she really unnamed? I believe Matthew gives us a
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very kind of a unique way of listing Bathsheba in this
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lineage. He calls her the wife of Uriah.
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I think he did that on purpose so that he could continually
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bring us and the Jews back to remembrance of the atrocities of
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David, but also to show us the grace that God supplied even in
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those dark moments. And we learn of the birth of
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Solomon. Solomon was likely, or Solomon
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was the wisest man before Jesus. He was one of the greatest kings
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of Israel, but Even so, at his death his heart had been turned
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away from God because of his love for women.
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And things just continue to get to get darker for Israel at that
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moment. We go down several generations
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and we get to Manasseh. Now this is not the Manasseh
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that we talked about a few few weeks ago in our Joseph Serie,
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but this Manasseh was, was wicked.
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His God was not the king of kings and the Lord of Lords.
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No, his God was sorcery and was witchcraft.
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He's accused of filling Jerusalem with innocent blood.
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He's the man that had the prophet Isaiah's son and two, so
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God had a response for him and he sent it through the prophet
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Jeremiah and he said because of your sin, the Kingdom will be
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destroyed. Then we have Josiah, another
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sign of God's grace. Josiah became king at 8 years
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old, not because of his qualifications, not because of
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his family stature. No, they were wicked kings.
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He became, he became king because his father and his
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grandfather had been assassinated and he was the only
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one that was left at 8 years old.
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I couldn't imagine taking on that that role, but Josiah was
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different than his father's. Josiah loved God and he did
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everything in his ability to turn the nation of Israel back
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to God. If we look through Scripture,
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we'll likely we'll see that Josiah's likely the godliest
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king since Solomon, and unfortunately it didn't stay
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that way. Then there's Jeconiah.
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As somebody you probably haven't heard of, it's a very a very
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unknown king and if David was considered the pinnacle of
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Jewish history, then the reign of Jack and I would be
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considered the the lowest point of Jewish history up to this
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point. The reason was is because the
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Kingdom fell while he was in power.
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But what was God to do? He had no option at this point
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other than to discipline his children for their
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unfaithfulness. If we go through history, we'll
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see time and time again God called out to his people, sent
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prophets to his people saying repent, repent, repent.
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And each time all they did was harden their heart and say no, I
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want nothing of it. So God was faithful and he did
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what he said He would do and he gave them over to another
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nation. The last one we'll look at this
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morning is Mary, the mother of Jesus, the one that found
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favour. In the sight of God because of
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her pureness and her cleanness and her devotion to the Lord.
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That's not what her neighbors said of her.
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There were rumors spread about Mary, about how she became
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pregnant. Many of her neighbors would have
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thought she would have fit really well on the TV show on Mt
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VS Teen Mom because she was such a young lady and she was single
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and had a child. So by the time Jesus came on the
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scene, this family was looking for a break.
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Seemed like destruction followed them everywhere they went.
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Everyone listed in this lineage had skeletons in their closet.
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But nevertheless, God was faithful throughout all of Jesus
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family. Even in the bad times, God's
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faithfulness never wavered. Many of these that were listed
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that we've talked about this morning, and even others would
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have been excluded from worship in the Tabernacle or in the
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temple because they had sinned against the Law of Moses and
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they had done so wrong in their life.
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They would not have been welcomed into the presence of
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God at that time in these moments that they had to follow
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the Law of Moses. But I believe Matthew listed
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these people here on purpose, and he did so, so that he would
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show us that the barrier of exclusion was broken.
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Now that Jesus has come, men and women, Jew and Gentile, were all
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now welcomed into the presence of God.
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And here's the key. God accepts each and every one
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of us just like we are. He's not asking us to clean
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ourselves up. He's not asking us to go do this
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or do that to be able to be welcomed into His presence.
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No, no, no. He's saying, hey, come into my
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presence and when you get here, I'm going to clean you up.
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I'm going to make you more like me.
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I just need you to come to me. I know.
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Also, going through this list of people probably brings back some
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memories, some that may be painful, Some of that you can,
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some of these people you can probably relate with or you know
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you have family that can relate to some of these stories.
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There's pain associated with a lot of those memories and maybe
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you're at the point where you're just ready for a change.
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I've seen this so many times throughout the years where
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people just feel as though if I could just get away from my
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family, maybe I could just move to a new city, get a fresh
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start, start a new life and I'll just forget about who they are.
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And I'll just start from where I'm at and just start moving
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forward. And just everything is going to
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be different from this point forward.
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But here's some hard truth. You can't escape your family,
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but you can choose to be different right now in this
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holiday season. It may seem hopeless.
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I know there's many that just feel so isolated from their
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family. You believe in God, you've
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placed your faith in him, you're living for him and and your
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family just wants to have nothing to do with them.
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You just feel isolated. You feel alone.
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You've prayed for them for years.
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You've, you've taken time and you have poured into them and
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you have witnessed to them all just to be met with resistance
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and they're just pushing you away.
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If that's you, let me encourage you this morning not to give up
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because change will come. It's in these moments that we
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have to lean into the presence of God and allow him to give us
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comfort and give us peace and encouragement in these moments.
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I know there's many here this morning.
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You come from a broken family or you're in a broken family now,
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and let me tell you that the only one that can replace that
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absent parent in your life is the presence of God.
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The only one that can soothe that pain that you're
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experiencing because of your family is God.
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The only one that can heal those deep wounds that have been
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created is God. By this time in history of what
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we've been reading and talking about this morning, by this time
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God had been silent for 400 years.
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That means no prophets were prophesying.
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That means there were no visions and there were no dreams.
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God was quiet. He didn't say a word for 400
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years. What the world didn't realize in
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this moment, God was preparing them for the greatest change the
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world would ever experience. God was saying, I'm not willing
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to send someone. I'm not willing to create
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something different. I'm willing to go myself to
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clean up the mess that sin has created and to bring hope to a
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lost world. And the coming of Jesus changed
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everything. Let me say, the God is able to
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make the impossible situation possible, and He is able to
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change your family's dynamic. And here it is.
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It begins with you. Hebrews chapter #11 is often
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considered the hall of faith. Some of Jesus's family, Abraham,
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he's one of the top on the list of men and women who had
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extraordinary faith. This doesn't mean that they
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didn't sin. It doesn't mean they didn't mess
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up at times. It means that means that they
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repented when necessary and they moved forward with God with
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great faith. And God was able to use them and
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be able to do the impossible through them.
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And when we look at Matthew chapter #1 I believe we could
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easily call it the hall of grace.
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When we look at the the the imperfections of these men and
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women, yet God was still able to use them to advance His Kingdom
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because of how great and how mighty and how wonderful His
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grace is. Matthew tore down the argument
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that the presence of God is only available to the moral elite.
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The fact is, is that no one deserves the presence of God and
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and Paul reinforces that in Romans when he said in Romans
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323 that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of
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God. There is none of us that will
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live good enough, be good enough to come into the presence of
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God. It takes Jesus.
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So here's the reality. God did not make a mistake in
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placing you and your family. I know that's hard for some of
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us to grasp and to hold on to that.
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God did not make a mistake placing you in your family.
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He knew exactly what He was doing and He was putting you in
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a place so that your family could experience the change that
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they needed. See, when we read through
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Jesus's family tree and we see all these different people and
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we see all, the, all the, the messiness of sin that's in their
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life, we don't see Jesus rejecting them, do we?
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No, we actually see the the contrary.
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We see that Jesus embraced his family and he sought after
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people that were just like his family so that he could bring
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them the hope that they didn't even know that they needed.
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Later on, Matthew continued to write about Jesus and he he even
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says that that some call Jesus a friend of sinners.
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That self-righteous crowd that we talked about earlier, those
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are the ones that were trying to make fun of Jesus, calling him a
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friend of sinners, but they were actually giving him a title that
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was greater than any other. So let me leave you with this
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story. Today I'll tell you about a a
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guy named James. By 14 years old, James was a
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drunk. You say, well, that that's kind
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of weird. Like maybe he started drinking.
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No, I'm saying by James's own testimony, by the time he was 14
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years old, he was a drunk. His family wanted nothing to do
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with God. They had no use for religion.
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It just wasn't their thing. So they didn't.
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He he very rarely if ever went to church by this time in his
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life and he started a spiral downward.
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By the time he was 17, James has gotten married and the very next
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day he joined the military. Now you would think with the
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structure of the military that maybe it would help James in his
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addiction to alcohol, but actually made it worse because
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of the combat that he saw. It just drove him more to
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alcohol. And so when James came home, he
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came home a changed person. He, he was so addicted into
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alcohol and, and the experiences that he had through combat, just
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putting those together, it just made things worse.
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And he continued in this lifestyle.
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James had two children and still was not interested in anything
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and involving God or church or any of that stuff.
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But James had a friend. His friend loved James.
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He prayed for James for years. He prayed for James and he, he,
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he saw out every opportunity he could to just tell James about
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Jesus and what God was doing in the church and would try to
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witness to him. And every time James would just
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reject him and say, man, I just don't want to hear that.
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Just keep that stuff to yourself.
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I don't need that stuff. I don't want it.
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But his friend was persistent, continually prayed day after
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day, even to the point to where there was days that he spent
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fasting in prayer, praying for James because he knew that God
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could change his life. Finally, one day, James gave in.
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He's like, man, if you will just leave me alone.
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If you'll just stop asking, I'll go to church with you.
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This just this one time, if you'll just leave me alone.
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So that day James went to church, he and his his wife and
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at that time he had two daughters.
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He was there in the church and something happened.
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God started speaking to James, and James never had experienced
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the presence of God before and it made him so uncomfortable.
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He was just, he was just looking and counting down the minutes
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like when is this guy going to be done?
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So I can just hit the door, I can leave, I can be done with
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this place. I never have to come back.
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And sure enough, the preacher finished.
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James hit the door. But what he wasn't counting on
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is that the presence of God went with him.
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James left that day done with church, but God wasn't done with
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him. James hadn't.
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He didn't know what to do. The presence of God was so real
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on him. He was under such heavy
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conviction. All he knew to do was go back to
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the bottle that had that he had continually went back to.
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So James by his own testimony said that he went back and he
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started drinking as much as he could that day.
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But the problem was is that God wasn't allowing him to get drunk
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and he couldn't get away from the presence of God.
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For a week James wrestled with the presence of God till finally
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he gave up. He said, Lord, I'll follow you,
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Lord, I'll trust you. I'll go all in with you.
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And James gave his life to Christ.
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Now I know for many of you, you're like Nathan.
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That was that was really good. That's a good story of of James
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about a giving his life to Christ.
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I've heard it before. It's wonderful.
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I love it. Never gets old hearing about
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somebody coming to trust Christ. And you're right, it doesn't.
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But for me, this is personal. James is not just another
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person. To me, James was my granddad
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James. His life changed so radically
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that it didn't just affect him, but it affected generations to
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come. My mom was one of the two 2
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girls that went to church with him that day and my mom was 12
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years old later when she got saved.
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My grandparents ended up having 5 girls.
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They made a commitment after that day.
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A week later, my grandmother gave her life to Christ and they
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made a commitment that they would raise their children not
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just to go to church, not just to know Scripture, but to have a
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real relationship with God. And they taught them how to live
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in the presence of God. So when my mom and dad got
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married, they made that same commitment to teach me and my
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brother and my sister to live in the presence of God.
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When Stephanie and I were married, we had children.
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Even before we had children, we had made the commitment.
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If God gives us children, we will commit to raise them to
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live in the presence of God. I can say just a couple weeks
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ago, since we've been at Riverbend, my youngest,
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Caroline, Stephanie, came down with her late one night.
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They're supposed to already be asleep.
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And she's like, hey, Caroline wants to tell you something.
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And Caroline comes in the room and she tells me about how she
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just gave her life to Christ. You say, well, Nathan, that
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could have happened any anyway, maybe so I'll believe God used
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James. James was 23 years old, gave his
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life to Christ, defected him and his children and his
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grandchildren and his great grandchildren.
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And I have cousins that have children.
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So there's five generations that I know of right now that have
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been affected because of the witness of James.
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So I'm going to leave you with this this morning.
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What is holding you back from experiencing the presence of God
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in your life? Your past may seem hopeless, but
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your future could have an eternal impact, all because of
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the presence of God in your life.
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So just a second where the altars are going to be open.
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We'll have pastors on either side if you need somebody to
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talk to. I encourage you to follow what
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God is calling you to do in this moment and respond according to
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how He is calling you. I'm going to pray for you, and
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then the band's going to come back and there'll be a time of
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response. So let me pray for you this
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morning. Father, thank You for Your
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presence, but thank You for how Your grace is shown throughout
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all generations. Thank You of how when we mess
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up, You don't reject us and cast us off, but yet You pull us in
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closer and You show us that You'll love us even more.
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I pray for those that this morning that may be struggling
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that You would just pull them in close, that You would apply Your
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grace to their life. And if somebody needs salvation,
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I pray that you would grant them salvation this morning.
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If somebody needs to get back into a relationship with you and
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then they need to renew their commitment to you, I pray that
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that would happen. Lord, if there's those that are
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praying for family, I pray that you would encourage them and
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help them continue on in their faithfulness to you and to
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praying for their family. Lord, we're excited for what
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you're going to do and how you're going to move through
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this service in Jesus name, Amen.
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