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Live Aware | Live Well (Part Eight)

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  1. Thank you for listening to Riverbend Church's podcast.

  2. To find out more about this message or Riverbend Church,

  3. connect with us online at Riverbend Church dot live.

  4. Man, it's so good to be back with you.

  5. A couple of really exciting updates.

  6. Connor and Tabitha were able to welcome their new baby girl,

  7. Hadley Grace into the world. Both baby and mom are doing

  8. great from what I've heard. Connor did great, but just so,

  9. so excited for them. Really excited about the plans

  10. that God already has for little Hadley and just love, love what

  11. God's doing in their family. Last week, if you were with us

  12. last week, we got to really just walk through with three

  13. different people giving their lives to Jesus last week, which

  14. was absolutely amazing, to where we'll get to celebrate that new

  15. life in Jesus in a couple weeks through baptism.

  16. So could not be more excited about that.

  17. Here's my question to you though, is everything that we

  18. just sang about was really about God's love for us and his love

  19. exhibited for us through what Jesus did for us on the cross.

  20. And you know, we do not serve CJ is absolutely right.

  21. We do not serve a a dead God. We, we do not come here to

  22. memorialize a good teacher. We serve a living God, a living

  23. Christ, a living Jesus to where the Bible tells us if we

  24. surrender our lives to him, that the Holy Spirit of God will come

  25. in and dwell us and to begin to change us and transform us from

  26. the inside out. And all of that is great, all of

  27. that's true. But have you really thought,

  28. have you really thought about the?

  29. Cost of that? Have you really thought about

  30. the cost? Of it.

  31. Like here's here's one of the things, if you're, if you're new

  32. to church or you grew up in church, either way, one of the

  33. things that we all need to come back to and we need to realize

  34. is that following Jesus, accepting Jesus, surrendering

  35. our lives to Jesus, coming before God and saying, God, I

  36. admit that I'm a Sinner, that I believe that you sent Jesus into

  37. this world to pay the price for my sins and I need to surrender

  38. my life to you. God, would you come in and take

  39. control of my life and I commit to following you for the rest of

  40. my life. That is absolutely free.

  41. That's free. As a matter of fact, it is as

  42. simple as the Apostle Paul wrote to where he says, if you believe

  43. in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord,

  44. you will be saved. That is free.

  45. So last week we got to walk through, you know, leading three

  46. people in surrendering their lives to Jesus, and that was

  47. free for them. But here's the thing.

  48. Choosing to surrender your life to Jesus and accept what He has

  49. done for us, that's free. However, it'll cost you

  50. everything. It'll cost you everything.

  51. And I think that we live in a day and an age to where we don't

  52. really, we like the free benefits of what it looks like

  53. for us to follow God and, and follow the, the, the, the ways

  54. of God. We don't really like to talk

  55. about everything that it'll cost us and everything that we should

  56. expect as followers of Jesus to be coming our way.

  57. If you're, if you're new to Riverbend, if you're new to

  58. church, and certainly if you're new to, to the series, this

  59. series is called live well. And, and here's the overall gist

  60. of the series is there's a God who created you and this God

  61. that created you, he loves you and this God that created you

  62. and loves you, He actually desires ultimate good for you.

  63. He, he desires, he actually desires God actually desires for

  64. you and I and for us and for we to live life well.

  65. But here's kind of the disconnect.

  66. A lot of times what we consider our definitions of what it means

  67. to live well often include bigger, better, bigger, better,

  68. newer. And I think that there's enough

  69. of us in the room and online that we've kind of followed that

  70. track. We followed that plan of what it

  71. looks like for us to live well. We've, we, we've aimed our lives

  72. at always pursuing bigger, better, newer, and we've just

  73. ended up more stressed and in debt with a lot of regret there.

  74. But God's way, God's way of us to live well, God's definition

  75. for us to live well. There's a lot of hardship that

  76. comes with that, but it also results in living a life to

  77. where you and I know that we are free from shame.

  78. We're free from from the guilt of our sin.

  79. And we can actually experience true forgiveness.

  80. We can experience true purpose, the purpose of which we were

  81. created for. You see, there's, think of it

  82. this way, My definitions of living well and God's

  83. definitions of living well, a lot of times when they don't

  84. match up, they're almost kind of like two different roads, like

  85. our world's definition of what it looks like for us to live

  86. well. It looks like it's a, it's an

  87. easy road and it looks like it leads to life.

  88. And God's definition of what it looks like to, to live well, it

  89. looks like a really, really hard road and it looks like it leads

  90. to death. When in actuality, the two are

  91. actually opposite our world's definition of living well, even

  92. though it does look a lot easier, it actually leads to

  93. death. And God's definition, even

  94. though it does look and is a lot harder, it actually leads to, to

  95. life. And here's the beauty about God.

  96. God allows us to choose. God allows us to choose, but he

  97. doesn't want us to be ignorant about those choices.

  98. He doesn't want us to be ignorant about those choices in,

  99. in other words, what comes along with choosing God's way?

  100. Well, I think we need to 1st come back to God's definition of

  101. what it means to live well. If you're new to the series,

  102. it's kind of the big idea or the main truth that we've been

  103. revolving around since the beginning of January.

  104. Here we are home stretch of the series.

  105. We got one more week in the book of first Peter.

  106. But to live well is to live God's way, firm in faith, steady

  107. in trials and anchored in hope. And one of the things that any,

  108. any follower of Jesus knows is that following the, the words

  109. and the ways and the will of God will require us to remain firm

  110. in our faith and steady in our trials and, and anchored in our

  111. hope, no doubt about it. And I want to show you a

  112. passage. I want to show you a passage in

  113. the book of first Peter. And if you have a Bible with

  114. you, I want to invite you to find First Peter chapter 4, to

    1 Peter 4 chapter mention

  115. where Peter's going to encourage us to live very, very much

  116. aware, to be very aware of the cost of what it looks like for

  117. us to follow. Jesus.

  118. If you have a Bible with you, we're going to pick it up in

  119. verse 12. If you don't, passages on the

  120. note sheet that that you were handed on the way in and it's

  121. going to be on the screen as well.

  122. This is what Peter writes. Beloved, do not be surprised at

  123. the fiery trial when it comes upon you to test you as though

  124. something strange were happening to you.

  125. But rejoice in so far as you share Christ's sufferings, that

  126. you may also rejoice and be glad when his glory is revealed.

  127. If you're insulted for the name of Christ, you're blessed

  128. because the Spirit of glory and of God rest upon you.

  129. But let none of you suffer as a murderer or thief, or an

  130. evildoer or a meddler. Yet if anyone suffers as a

  131. Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God

  132. in that name. For it is time for judgment to

  133. begin at the household of God. And if it begins with us, what

  134. will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of

  135. God? And he's going to quote another

  136. passage of Scripture? And if the righteous is scarcely

  137. saved, what will become of the ungodly and the Sinner?

  138. Therefore, let those who suffer according to God, to God's will,

  139. entrust their souls to a faithful Creator while doing

  140. good. Now let's just go ahead and

  141. address the elephant in the room.

  142. Beloved, do not be surprised at the fiery trials when or fiery

  143. trial when it comes upon you to test you.

  144. I don't know about you, but I read that and I sit there and

  145. go, man, what an uplifting verse.

  146. What a way to start my Sunday right.

  147. What a way to start my Sunday. I think it's really important

  148. for us, however, to talk about and for us to look at what the

  149. fiery trial that Peter's referring to here, what it's not

  150. because there's a lot of confusion, especially in, in, in

  151. in the United States to where there there's a lot of

  152. prosperity, there's a lot of blessing there.

  153. There's a church on every corner to where it's not hard for us to

  154. practice our faith. There's a lot of

  155. misunderstanding about what the fiery trial is, but I think we

  156. need to clarify the three most common mistakes of what people

  157. often assume the fiery trial is. So if you're taking notes with

  158. us, let's look at three things. The fiery trial is not the first

  159. one. The fiery trial is not the

  160. consequences of my sinful choices.

  161. The fiery trial, brothers, do we.

  162. We don't want you to be unaware. We want you to be prepared.

  163. There will be a fiery trial that comes to test you.

  164. He is not talking about Peter's not talking about the

  165. consequences of my sinful choices.

  166. This is why check this out. Peter writes this If you're

  167. insulted for the name of Christ, you would be blessed.

  168. What is the if? If you are insulted for what?

  169. For the name of Christ? And then he goes on as if that

  170. wasn't clear enough. But let none of you suffer as a

  171. murderer or a thief or an evildoer or as a meddler.

  172. Here's the whole point is every single one of our sinful choices

  173. and decisions, they all have consequences to them.

  174. They all have consequences. And even though God can forgive

  175. all of our sins, all of the sins that that that things that we

  176. have done that God's word tells us not to do, things that we

  177. refuse to do that God's word tells us to do, those are sins.

  178. God can forgive all of our sins, but his forgiveness of our sin

  179. doesn't necessarily mean that he eliminates all the consequences.

  180. Let me kind of like put some feet on that.

  181. God can forgive and does forgive past sexual sin, but that

  182. doesn't mean that the remaining relational consequences for

  183. relations, relational consequences later on in life.

  184. It doesn't mean that those consequences of those sexual

  185. sins don't keep lingering, but God can forgive the sins of of

  186. substance abuse, but it doesn't mean that he automatically

  187. eliminates like the the, the grip of of of addiction.

  188. You you see? The fiery trial is not

  189. necessary. It's not like the consequences

  190. of our sinful decisions. Second thing that the fiery

  191. trial is not, it's not really the common stresses of life.

  192. It's not really the common stresses of life.

  193. We all have stresses in life. And isn't it interesting?

  194. Isn't it interesting how the older you get, the bigger the

  195. stresses become, the older you get, the bigger stresses you,

  196. you, you become and you kind of look back over your life and

  197. you're like, Hey, remember when the biggest thing that was

  198. stressful to me was that, man, I'd sign up for that every day

  199. of the week and, and twice on Sunday, Like to be able to go

  200. back and have the stresses that I thought were like a really big

  201. deal in my early 20s or when I was 14.

  202. And I'm not saying that those weren't big deals or big

  203. stresses when I was 14 or when I was in my early 20s.

  204. I'm just saying that now as I get older, the stresses seem to

  205. get a little bit bigger and a little bit hairier, right.

  206. The fiery child is to come upon us that Peter's talking about

  207. here in First Peter 412 are not the common stresses of life.

  208. So parents, as challenging as your kids may be, they are not

  209. the fiery trial. Wives, as challenging and as

  210. stubborn as your husband may be, he is not the fiery trial.

  211. As as much of A jerk as your boss or your supervisor or your

  212. manager, maybe he or she is not the fiery trial.

  213. We all have things that are really, really common stresses

  214. of life that we don't like. Things like bills and vegetables

  215. and taxes and dentist chairs, as much as we don't like them, they

  216. are not the fiery trial, although they will.

  217. They will make us look forward to heaven a lot more, right?

  218. But the common stresses of life are not the fiery trial that

  219. Peter's talking about. The third thing, third

  220. misconception about these fiery trial is the culture's movement

  221. away from Christendom. The culture's movement, our

  222. culture's movement away from Christendom.

  223. Let me kind of unpack that for a second.

  224. We no doubt live in a country that was founded by Judeo,

  225. judeo-christian ethics, no doubt about it.

  226. We, we're a country that was founded with a, with a base

  227. acknowledgement of our creator God.

  228. We're a, we're a country that was founded on, on a, on a

  229. shared morality of what was right and what was wrong.

  230. For the most part. We, we are a country that was,

  231. that was founded in a way in which I would say that

  232. Christianity was, was viewed favourably in the marketplace

  233. and, and, and in the public sector.

  234. I would say that probably up until the the 1990s, there were

  235. cultural pressures and incentives for someone,

  236. especially in the South, to say that they were a Christian and

  237. that they attended church. Now sitting here in 2026, a lot

  238. of those cultural pressures and incentives, they no longer

  239. exist. A lot of the movement that we

  240. see happening in our culture is, is a rejection against

  241. Christendom, the shared Judeo-christian values.

  242. But I would even argue this, I would even argue this, that the

  243. fiery trial that Peter's referring to here in First Peter

  244. 4 is not our culture's movement away from judeo-christian

  245. values. It's just not you see, again,

  246. we, we, we live in a day and age to where there's no cultural

  247. incentive or pressure to say that you're something that

  248. you're not. If you're not a follower of

  249. Jesus, then there's no cultural pressure incentive to say that

  250. you are. There's no culture incentive or

  251. pressure to, to, to, to go to church if if you not a follower

  252. of Jesus. So what's happening is, is we're

  253. having people pull away. We're having our culture being

  254. more authentic and more honest and more real about who they are

  255. and what they believe. And they're actually living with

  256. a sense of genuineness, A genuine lostness, but a

  257. genuineness. This is why it's so important

  258. for us to understand the fiery trial that Peter's referring to

  259. here is not a City Hall's refusal to place a Nativity on

  260. the front lawn. And the fiery trial that Peter's

  261. referring to here is not a cashier saying Happy Holidays

  262. rather than Merry Christmas. That's just cultural cultures

  263. drift and unbelieving cultures drift away from or all out

  264. abandonment away from a judeo-christian ethic or what we

  265. would call Christendom. You see Christendom, it has the

  266. has the fingerprints of Christianity.

  267. It looks like Christianity. Sometimes it feels like

  268. Christianity, but it's really just a cultural Christianity.

  269. It's not the same as a I've surrendered my life to Jesus.

  270. I've been born again, I've been forgiven of my sins and only and

  271. purchased with the blood of Jesus type of Christianity.

  272. It's going through the motions and and and Christendom that

  273. that's what our culture is slowly but surely rejecting.

  274. And I would even argue over the last 20 something years that

  275. rejection has has rapidly increased.

  276. But that rejection is not necessarily what.

  277. The fiery trial that Peter's talking about here.

  278. So if the. Fiery trial is not the

  279. consequences of my own sinful decisions, and the fiery trial

  280. is not the common stresses of life and the fiery trial that

  281. Peter's referring to here in First Peter 412.

  282. It is not culture's movement away from Christendom.

  283. What exactly is the fiery trial? What exactly is the fiery trial?

  284. And this comes back to the overall gist of the question

  285. that we asked at the beginning. What will following Jesus cost

  286. me? Here's a definition.

  287. I gave you this in your notes. The fiery trial.

  288. Is a suffering that is experienced due to my walking in

  289. obedience to God's word will and ways.

  290. It is a suffering that is experienced due to my walking in

  291. obedience to God's word will and ways.

  292. There is a direct correlation. I am obedient to God, therefore

  293. I am enduring this trial. I'm holding on to the words, the

  294. will and the ways of God. Therefore I'm experiencing this

  295. type of suffering. It is a direct correlation

  296. between my obedience to God and my suffering for that obedience.

  297. And it's going to happen in two distinct ways.

  298. The first one, again, if you're taking notes with us, jot this

  299. down. It's going to be a personal

  300. suffering. It's going to be a personal

  301. suffering. When I am walking in obedience

  302. to God's Word will and ways. There are some things in my

  303. life. If I'm living my life in

  304. accordance to God's word and God's will and God's way for me,

  305. that's going to, that's going to be contrary to the Word.

  306. The world's the unbelieving worlds like will and ways.

  307. So there's going to be some things that I'm going to suffer.

  308. Let me let me kind of give you some examples.

  309. If you're single with us and, and you are living obedient to

  310. God's word and his will and his ways for you, then you refuse to

  311. lower your standards and you refuse and you completely reject

  312. some type of like hookup culture because you know that it's

  313. against God's word, it's against God's will and it's against

  314. God's ways. Well, what's that going to cost

  315. you? It's going to cost you at least

  316. temporarily. It's going to cost you

  317. companionship. If you, if you're, if you're, if

  318. you're an employee and you're, you're looking to walk in

  319. accordance with Scripture and God's word and his will and his

  320. ways and you refuse to compromise your integrity or

  321. your character. It may very well cost you a

  322. promotion and that's going to cost you some money if you're a

  323. man or a woman or a student with us and, and you become convicted

  324. about the things that you allow to kind of influence your

  325. thoughts. Because we know that like what

  326. goes into our thoughts, it's just human nature.

  327. It starts to starts to like ping pong within us and because it

  328. starts to change us and you become convicted about the

  329. content that you allow into your thoughts with whether that

  330. content is through reels or, or or or or websites or music or

  331. movies or or TV shows. That may very well cost you

  332. some, some popularity and it may cost you some, maybe even some

  333. friends because you like we were talking about last week, you now

  334. have a new master and that's Jesus.

  335. And you want to honor Jesus in everything that you do.

  336. So honoring Jesus in everything that you do, it will cost you

  337. personally. There will be a personal

  338. suffering, but there's also going to be a second category of

  339. suffering, and that's what we call a shared suffering, a

  340. shared suffering. What I mean by that is when a

  341. body of believers like Riverbend Church, whether you're in the

  342. room with us or online, you're following Jesus and we're all

  343. looking to walk and sync with God's Word and his will and his

  344. ways. There will be and we're joining

  345. with other churches, other Bible believing Jesus loving churches,

  346. not only in this area, but in this state and in this country

  347. and around the world. There will be a shared

  348. suffering. There will be a complete

  349. misunderstanding of who we are and a mislabelling of who we are

  350. because we're looking to live in accordance with what God says,

  351. not what feels good or what culture says.

  352. I'll give you I'll give you a couple of examples.

  353. Not to spend a whole lot of time here, but we read in Genesis

  354. chapter one that God created humanity is male and female and

  355. he created both of them in his image of equal value, but he

  356. created them male and female. So as Bible believing followers

  357. of Jesus, we cannot get down with and we cannot accept a

  358. culture's view of 54 different gender identities.

  359. We just can't. But because of that, we're

  360. labeled as a people that doesn't really love people or maybe even

  361. bigotry. 2014, the founders of Hobby Lobby, both devout

  362. followers of Jesus. They were sued and their case

  363. was taken all the way to the Supreme Court of the United

  364. States. They were sued because under the

  365. Affordable Health Care Act, they were mandated as a company or as

  366. a corporation that they had to provide health insurance, which

  367. part of that health insurance included abortion.

  368. And the founders of Hobby Lobby said, listen, based off of our

  369. fear of God and our belief in Scripture that all, all life is

  370. sacred, that from the moment of conception to the moment of

  371. death, we are to protect all life.

  372. We can't, we can't adhere by that that statute and that

  373. mandate. And because they took that

  374. stance, they were sued and their case was taken all the way

  375. Supreme Court of the United States.

  376. And in a narrow 5 four decision in the United States Supreme

  377. Court 2014 the Supreme Court barely upheld those founders

  378. rights not just to believe what they say they believe in but to

  379. actually put it into practice. 2015 there was another Supreme

  380. Court case Ozerfel V Hodges. And in Ozerfel V Hodges, the

  381. Supreme Court ruled and it actually federalized same sex

  382. marriage, citing using constitutional protections, but

  383. then also citing portions of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which

  384. basically classified sexual orientation in the same vein as

  385. a person's skin color, saying the Supreme Court of the United

  386. States said no one can discriminate on that basis.

  387. Now, most church scholars and historians agree that that has

  388. now laid the legal groundwork for the federal government to

  389. remove the tax exempt status of any church that does not perform

  390. or refuses to perform same sex marriage.

  391. Not because we're bigots, not because we hate people, but

  392. because we believe that God instituted marriage, He created

  393. marriage and He only blesses marriage is between a man and a

  394. woman. So most legal scholars believe

  395. that that now, that's 2015 Supreme Court case has now laid

  396. the groundwork for the federal government to to remove tax

  397. exempt status of churches, which means that tithes and offerings

  398. will then become double taxed. You see what you and I, what we

  399. give together to and through Riverbend Church, that money has

  400. already been taxed. Well, if the federal government

  401. then taxes ties and offerings again, that's a double taxation,

  402. which will then lead to a lot of churches having to close their

  403. doors. As your pastor, I'm very well

  404. aware of the fact that following that vein out to its personal

  405. conclusion, it could very easily mean when I stand on where God's

  406. Word tells me to stand about marriage, that that could be

  407. classified as hate speech. I, I, I don't tell you this, I

  408. don't tell you this is your pastor to incite you, to get you

  409. to wring your hands, to get you to go full on ostrich mode and

  410. stick your head in the sand. I tell you this to give us full

  411. context of what Peter is talking about and to give us full

  412. context of what you and I have willingly signed up for when we

  413. surrendered our lives to Jesus. So in full context, let me go

  414. back and read first. Peter 413 In light of the

  415. personal sufferings and the shared sufferings, rejoice in so

  416. far as you share Christ's sufferings that you may also

  417. rejoice and be glad when His glory is revealed.

  418. So here's the question to his church, How in the world, in

  419. light of everything that I just said, none of us going to make a

  420. Hallmark card, right? How in the world do we rejoice

  421. in that? I think we rejoice by three

  422. mindset shifts, which are also going to come accompany 3

  423. promises from God. If you're taking notes with us,

  424. here's the three mindset shifts that we have got to be aware of

  425. in the day and age in which we're living.

  426. Number one, I don't chase trials, but I won't be surprised

  427. when they come. I don't chase trials, but I

  428. won't be surprised when they come.

  429. Listen, I have never met anybody that says, listen, I haven't had

  430. a good trial in a while. I think I'm going to go chase

  431. one down. If that's you two things, either

  432. A, you've got way too much time on your hands or B, you ain't

  433. right. And I know it's not

  434. grammatically correct, but it's theologically correct.

  435. You ain't right. I don't chase them.

  436. I don't chase them, but I won't be surprised when they come.

  437. I won't be surprised when they come.

  438. What? What is our definition of the

  439. fiery trial? It is a suffering that comes

  440. upon me as a direct result of me living in obedience to God's

  441. Word, His will, and His ways. So when I strive to be obedient

  442. to God, do you know who takes notice?

  443. My enemy, Satan, his demons, the forces of hell itself.

  444. So when I strive to be obedient to God's Word and His will and

  445. His ways, my obedience places a target on me.

  446. What is hell? What are the forces of hell?

  447. What's their main objective for any of us?

  448. Plan A Keep us away from Jesus. Keep us from surrendering our

  449. lives to Jesus. If you've already surrendered

  450. your life to Jesus, there's nothing that can ever separate

  451. you from the love of God. Nothing.

  452. I love how Paul ends the end of Romans chapter 8.

    Romans 8 chapter mention

  453. What can separate us from the love of God?

  454. And he gives a whole litany of things that goes, Nope, not

  455. that, not that, not that. There's nothing that can ever

  456. separate us. Once you were saved, you're

  457. always saved. But but once you're saved

  458. doesn't mean that you're always be effective.

  459. So if Satan can't keep you away from surrendering your life to

  460. Jesus, he wants to keep you as ineffective as possible by from

  461. leading other people to Jesus. And how does he do that?

  462. By keeping us disobedient to God's word, his will and his

  463. ways. You see, I don't chase trials,

  464. but I'm also not going to be surprised when they when they

  465. come. Jesus himself promised this.

  466. He goes in this world. You will have happy times.

  467. It's not what he said in this world.

  468. You will have an easy time. It's not what he said in this

  469. world. If you go to church every week,

  470. life will always turn out the way that you thought.

  471. Not what he said in this world. You'll have health, wealth and

  472. prosperity. Not what he said.

  473. Jesus said in this world you will have trials.

  474. But fear not, I've overcome the world.

  475. Jesus was crystal clear. We will have trials.

  476. I'm not going to chase them. I'm not going to chase them.

  477. But I'm not going to be surprised when they come as kind

  478. of a side point of conviction. Here's a question that followers

  479. of Jesus, we should be asking ourselves.

  480. Am I walking in such obedience to God that I'm actually a

  481. threat to health? I'm starting to wonder if the

  482. lack of the fiery trial that Peter's referring to here,

  483. direct suffering, shared suffering.

  484. I'm starting to wonder if the lack of the fiery trial, if a

  485. lack of attack, if an if a lack of attack on my life from the

  486. forces of hell, if that's not really a true indicator and a

  487. diagnostic of my lack of a threat to hell, my lack of

  488. obedience to God. You see us followers of Jesus

  489. going through trials for Jesus should be a badge of honor.

  490. Along the way, we've kind of got some twisted theology to where

  491. we start to think as far as the Jesus.

  492. Jesus, I read my Bible. I spent 15 minutes in prayer

  493. with you. I gave to the church.

  494. I serve once a month at the church.

  495. Why are you allowing this trial to come in my life?

  496. Well, the Bible tells us, he promises us you walk in

  497. obedience to God. You will face suffering in this

  498. world. We're going to come back to why

  499. that's so important. Second mindset shift is I don't

  500. like trials, but I won't be consumed by their fire.

  501. I don't like trials, but I won't be consumed by their fire.

  502. Here's what that means is when you and I, when we're facing a

  503. trial in life that is directly tied to our obedience to God's

  504. word and his will and his ways, you don't have to like the

  505. trial. As a matter of fact, if you, if

  506. you write in your journal like I am so happy, like, you know, I

  507. love this trial, such a great time, you know, hashtag blessed

  508. and in your journal. I'm starting to sit there and go

  509. OK. You don't have to hyper

  510. spiritualize things. You don't have to like the

  511. trial, but you also don't have to fear it.

  512. You also don't have to fear it. Let me ask you a question based

  513. off of what we've just talked about, talked about where, what

  514. is the ultimate source of the of the trials that's coming against

  515. U.S. forces of hell? Do you really believe that God

  516. is bigger than the forces of hell?

  517. That means whatever hell can throw at you, God's protection

  518. is bigger. We see that playing out all

  519. throughout Scripture. You go to the book of Daniel,

  520. you got three guys, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego.

  521. They refused to bow down to to worship an image of the king as

  522. a as a God. They refused to bow down and as

  523. a as a consequence, they told him, like, listen king, like we

  524. acknowledge your authority as our king, but we can't worship

  525. you as God because we can only worship the one true God.

  526. And as a result, King Nebuchadnezzar threw them

  527. literally into a fiery furnace. That furnace was heated up

  528. several times hotter than it normally was, so much so that

  529. the Bible tells us that the guys actually heating the heating the

  530. furnace actually died themselves because it was so hot.

  531. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were thrown into the fire.

  532. No doubt the fire was hot, but God's protection was greater.

  533. You can read on. Later on in the book of Daniel,

  534. you got this guy by the name of Daniel who he.

  535. Refuses to to. Obey the King's decree to stop

  536. praying to God. It's like, hey, King, like I

  537. acknowledge your authority as my king, but my greater authority,

  538. my greatest authority is to my heavenly Father, to the King of

  539. Kings, and that's God. And I'm going to keep praying.

  540. As a consequence, he was thrown into a den of vicious lions.

  541. Those lions were no, no doubt vicious and probably no doubt

  542. starving, but God's protection of him was far greater.

  543. Whatever trials may come your way and my way, as a result of

  544. us being obedient, faithful to God, Listen, they're big, they

  545. are hairy, they are destructive. However, God's protection is

  546. much greater. One of my favorite passages in

  547. the entire Bible is is Second Corinthians chapter 4 and right

    2 Corinthians 4 chapter mention

  548. there nestled in the middle of Second Corinthians chapter 4.

    2 Corinthians 4 chapter mention

  549. Love this passage. Paul writes this.

  550. We talking about followers of Jesus.

  551. We're. Afflicted in every way, but not

  552. crushed. We're.

  553. Perplexed but not driven to despair.

  554. Persecuted but not forsaken, struck down but not destroyed.

  555. You see, you don't have to like the trial, but you also don't

  556. have to fear it. Let come what may.

  557. There is nothing that can ever separate us from God's love.

  558. God always, always, always has protection of your soul.

  559. Let come what may, He always has protection of your soul.

  560. Third mindset. The way in which we can be

  561. blessed in the midst of living in a trial.

  562. I don't avoid trials, but I will be purified in them.

  563. I don't avoid them, but I will be purified in them.

  564. Two things about that statement #1 the trials that come our way

  565. are not things that we can go around, not things that we can

  566. go under, not things that we can go over.

  567. We have to go through them. Here's 2 words of encouragement.

  568. When you and I, when we go through trials, Number one, we

  569. never go through the trials alone.

  570. If you're a follower of Jesus, that means you have the Spirit

  571. of the living God living in you, that there is nothing that you

  572. will ever encounter alone. This is why King David could

  573. honestly and authentically write in Psalm 23.

  574. Four, even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of

  575. death, I will fear no evil. Why?

  576. Because you, God, you are with me.

  577. Your rod and your staff, they comfort me.

  578. I'm never alone in what I go through and #2 with God, nothing

  579. is ever wasted. With God, nothing is ever

  580. wasted, ever. God will always use.

  581. If we come to God and kind of reframe our question, here's how

  582. we got to reframe the question. In the midst of the trial, ask

  583. what, not why. Here's what I mean.

  584. When you may be in a trial right now, you may be on the verge of

  585. going into a trial. When you're in that trial, ask

  586. the question, what God, what do you want to teach me in the

  587. midst of what I'm walking through right now?

  588. Not so much God, why in the world would you allow this to

  589. happen to me? What not why?

  590. There's a there's a profound, profound difference and that

  591. question when we understand that we don't avoid trials, but we

  592. will be purified in them. It gives us kind of a kind of a

  593. strange confidence, right? A confidence that almost when

  594. coming up on a trial, that fiery trial, hey trial, I don't like

  595. you, you don't like me, but I know something that you don't.

  596. Your intention for me is to tear me down, but God's going to use

  597. you to build me up. So let's get this thing started.

  598. You see, I don't avoid them. I would even argue I can't avoid

  599. them, but I will be purified in them.

  600. That's why whenever we go to another follower of Jesus and

  601. say, hey, can I run a situation by you?

  602. Can I get your godly counsel on this?

  603. More times than not, we typically go to the person that

  604. we know there's been through the trials, don't we?

  605. Why is that? Because there's a track record

  606. of them relying on God and his faithfulness in and through

  607. them. Here's a question I want to

  608. throw out there to you and especially if you're new to

  609. church, It's AI think it's a very open and honest question.

  610. Some people would even maybe even accuse this question of

  611. being sacrilege. Here's the question, Ben.

  612. If the fiery trials are going to come as a result of my obedience

  613. to God, then why in the world would I ever want to be obedient

  614. to God? That's a fair question.

  615. Let me give you the answer. Do you want to be forgiven of

  616. your sins? You see, I think what what has

  617. so wrapped up our culture and its tightest grips is living and

  618. walking with a sense of guilt and shame and secrecy.

  619. Do you want to be freed up this morning or, or how about this?

  620. How about many of us? We come in here, we're watching

  621. online to where life has not at all gone the way that we thought

  622. that it has, and it feels like all of our hope has been

  623. stripped away. What would it look like for you

  624. to know that if the worst that were to happen is you die, that

  625. you would spend eternity with God in heaven?

  626. How would that change the way that you lived?

  627. How about this? How about a sense of peace and

  628. love and purpose? That you've been striving to

  629. find elsewhere by going down a lot of different roads and

  630. trying a lot of different things, but you find out that

  631. they only leave you empty and hollow and probably worse off

  632. than you were to begin with. I would argue this if you're on

  633. the fence about whether or not to follow Jesus.

  634. A life that follows Jesus will give you a life that you have

  635. always been looking for. No doubt about it.

  636. Yes, it will come with hardships, but the blessings are

  637. much greater than the hardships. Yes, it will come with trials,

  638. but the eternal hope of knowing that you will spend eternity

  639. with Jesus in heaven is greater than those trials.

  640. Yes, it will come with suffering.

  641. However, that suffering dulls in comparison to the life that

  642. Jesus wants for you. Like I said at the very

  643. beginning of our time together, and we had three people last

  644. week that crossed over from death to life that know that

  645. their greatest weapon against fear and doubt is a date,

  646. February 15th, 2026. When the forces of hell try to

  647. diminish who they are, diminish their hope, or try to cloud them

  648. with doubt, they can pull out that date, February 15th, 2026.

  649. That's when I nailed things down and gave my life to Jesus.

  650. Do you have a date that you can go back to?

  651. If you do or if you don't, we would love to pray with you.

  652. We'd love to talk to you in just a few moments during our time of

  653. response. If you do.

  654. If you do, I want to walk you through four really key quick

  655. questions to end our time. Here's the first one.

  656. What is faithful obedience to God costing me right now?

  657. If we're not listen, we don't go chasing trials.

  658. We don't like the trials. We don't avoid the trials, but a

  659. question that we should really be pondering if you're, if we're

  660. a follower of Jesus, what trial am I suffering right now for the

  661. for the cause of following Jesus?

  662. And if there's nothing that I can point to, in what areas do I

  663. need to be obedient to Jesus? Not to be a jerk for Jesus,

  664. you'll never find that in the Bible, but just simply be

  665. obedient to Jesus. What's it costing me #2 Where's

  666. God calling me to obey Him knowing that it'll cost me?

  667. Is there a stand that He knows that I need to take, that I know

  668. that I need to take, not because of my opinions or my

  669. perspectives, but based off of what God's Word tells me?

  670. Is there a stance that I know that I need to take based off of

  671. following and being faithfully obedient to God's Word, His

  672. will, and His ways that's going to cost me #3 What would it look

  673. like for me to not run from the fire, but to be refined by it?

  674. What would it look like for me to not run from the fire?

  675. I often wonder what it'll look like when we know that our time

  676. is coming to an end in this life.

  677. I wonder how many times we'll look back if we're aware of

  678. those final moments with regret. Wondering, I wonder what would

  679. have happened, what God could have done in me and through me

  680. if I had not run from that trial, but I actually chose to

  681. trust God to be refined by it. 4th question.

  682. How can I prepare my heart now for the fiery trials that will

  683. come? This morning has been really

  684. about being aware. Aware of the cost.

  685. Remember how I told you 3 mindsets also lead to three

  686. promises? Fact of the matter is whether or

  687. not you're in a trial right now and trial's pending, if you're

  688. obedient to God, a trial is pending.

  689. But guess what? God will protect you in that

  690. trial. God will protect you in that

  691. trial if you lean on Him. Here's what we want to do.

  692. I want to end our time just praying over us this morning.

  693. And if you were like one of those three last week that said,

  694. Ben, I don't know if I have a true relationship with Jesus,

  695. but I don't want to leave here not knowing.

  696. We would love to talk with you. Maybe there's someone in your

  697. life that you're not sure they have a relationship with Jesus.

  698. The most powerful thing that we can do is to come down and to

  699. pray for them by name. Maybe you're in here this

  700. morning, you've come out of a trial.

  701. Maybe you're in a trial right now.

  702. You may say, God, I need your protection of me in this trial.

  703. God, would you grow me? Would you refine me in this

  704. trial? God, I don't.

  705. Like it, but I trust that you're with me.

  706. Maybe this morning is just another step of dependence on

  707. God and where He has placed you. Maybe it's courage for you to do

  708. what exactly what you know God is calling you to do.

  709. Maybe in a relationship, a personal relationship, maybe at

  710. work, maybe at school. Maybe it's something personal.

  711. Maybe it's some some some boundaries that you need to draw

  712. in your own life personally, knowing that that stance will

  713. cost you. So you just need to come down

  714. and pray for some courage. Listen, God will grant it to

  715. you. You just have to ask.

  716. So this morning we're going to open up this time after we pray

  717. to give us a chance to respond and to pray together.

  718. God, we love you and we thank you for your word.

  719. Again, we thank you for the fact that you do not keep anything

  720. from us, God, you do not sugarcoat things for us.

  721. God, I pray that you would forgive us of, of any, any

  722. twisted theology or any twisted notion that if we surrender our

  723. lives to you, then you're going to make everything a smooth road

  724. ahead of us. You're going to make it easy.

  725. You're going to give us everything that we want.

  726. God, would you bring us back to the reminder that you love us

  727. far too much for that God? You are most concerned with who

  728. we are becoming, God, and we cannot become who you created us

  729. to be without depending on you. So God, I pray for the man or

  730. the woman or the student that is struggling with an assurance of

  731. whether he or she is truly following you.

  732. God, I pray that they would, that you would grant them a

  733. boldness to step out and to come down, talk and pray with the

  734. pastor this morning. God, that they can nail that

  735. down. God, for those that already have

  736. their salvation nailed down, God, would you help us to be

  737. really, really honest with ourselves about ourselves and

  738. about the presence or the lack of presence of, of trials in our

  739. lives as as maybe being indicative of our true

  740. faithfulness or our true obedience to you?

  741. Help us to really look at God. What is it costing us to follow

  742. you, God, and help us to respond appropriately to that?

  743. God, there are people in in all of our lives that we know need

  744. you. So God, we want to take this

  745. time to lift them up to you by name.

  746. God, we pray that whatever you're calling us to do this

  747. morning, God, that you would move in freedom, that you would

  748. move in power. God, that you would move in a

  749. way that is undeniably you. And it's in Jesus name that we

  750. pray. Amen.

  751. Thank you for listening to Riverbend Church's podcast.

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