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Plan, Vision, Dream | Pastor Rob Ketterling

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  1. Today we have a special treat because Pastor Rob Ketterling

  2. who is the founding and lead pastor of River Valley Church in

  3. Minneapolis, MN is with us in the house today.

  4. Now here's the deal, Church family.

  5. Pastor Rob pastors a multi site church just like our church.

  6. They, we have 4 locations. They have 11 locations all

  7. across the Twin Cities, Minneapolis, Saint Paul.

  8. But Pastor Rob is not just a pastor, he is a friend.

  9. And so Sarah and I have been doing life with Pastor Rob and

  10. his wife Becca for almost a quarter of a century. 23 years

  11. ago we met at Rob's church in Minnesota.

  12. And I'm just so thankful for your friendship.

  13. Friendship, your mentorship to me.

  14. He's been a Big Brother in ministry to us and so thankful.

  15. But he's also an author. And about a year ago he released

  16. what's this book called, The Generous Life, or we'll say The

  17. Generous Life. And man, oh man, oh man, as soon

  18. as I saw this book and the concepts inside of it, I said,

  19. Pastor Rob, you have to come to our church.

  20. That was 14 months ago, you guys.

  21. That's how in demand this guy is.

  22. He literally just got back from teaching these principles in

  23. Australia. God has an anointing on Pastor

  24. Rob's life to minister to us. And so man, we are pumped that

  25. in the middle of this financial series, I said, Pastor Rob, come

  26. on, don't just teach us, challenge us.

  27. Somebody say challenge come on every location, put your hands

  28. together for my friend pastor. Rock, come on.

  29. Amen. Amen.

  30. You can be seated. You can be seated.

  31. It's a joy to be here. And like your pastor said, Matt

  32. and Sarah have been friends of ours for almost 25, which is

  33. hard to believe. Before we had Gray hair.

  34. And it's a joy. And I just want you to know

  35. this. We've admired your pastors as

  36. they multiply. I you have no idea how many

  37. churches were on the brink of closing and they coached them up

  38. or those that were struggling and they coached them up like

  39. your reward for sending them on the road and letting them

  40. minister and to help these churches.

  41. Their heart is for pastors and when they're out from here, they

  42. are multiplying the effectiveness of what God's

  43. doing here. And if you love your pastors,

  44. can you show your love and appreciation?

  45. Just give them a handclap like love, love, love them.

  46. When he asked me to be here at this time of year, I said yes,

  47. it's 4° in Minnesota. Praise God, when it's seven,

  48. it's 76° warmer here than back home right now.

  49. That was an easy prayer to answer.

  50. All right. Oh, man, it's a joy.

  51. And as he said, I have a book on the generous life, and I can't

  52. believe that God has allowed me to do that.

  53. I'll be honest, we started our whole church on credit cards.

  54. Nobody would give us a loan. I went to seven different banks.

  55. They all said no, there was no church planning group that gave

  56. you money. And I had five Visa Gold credit

  57. cards, each with a $20,000 limit.

  58. And I said to my wife, I think the Lord provided with Visa

  59. Gold. So we did.

  60. We put $100,000 on credit cards at 21% interest.

  61. OK, the first time I met Dave Ramsey, financial peace guy, I

  62. said, forgive me Dave for I have sinned.

  63. I mean like, that's all I said to him.

  64. Our our conference room, true story.

  65. Our conference room is named the Visa Gold conference room.

  66. And people like, were you sponsored by them?

  67. I said, no, I sponsored them. You know, like, and it's just to

  68. remind people that like, look what God did, Look what God did.

  69. We, we gave our first offering away.

  70. We got our first offering. I gave it all the way.

  71. And my wife said, like, you know, we do have bills.

  72. Like, do you plan on? I was like, I don't know, I

  73. didn't think that through. So I just, I look at where we

  74. are and what God has done. And, and I can just tell you,

  75. I've learned lesson after lesson after lesson.

  76. And in 2008 we started doing Kingdom builders like a lot of

  77. churches do you do. And we raised 800,000 over our

  78. tide, which was incredible. And over the years, this very

  79. last year, our church raised 12.5 million over the tide.

  80. Something supernatural has happened.

  81. Yeah. And it also let you know we gave

  82. $10 million to world missions gave away.

  83. And, and we have a our church is obsessed with missions.

  84. We want to send 500 missionaries out from our church and right

  85. now we're at 299 that we've sent out into the world and we're

  86. just like God take us on this generosity journey.

  87. Let us be generous with the people we send with the money we

  88. give. And so he's asked me to steward

  89. this and and so I at least likely, least likely guy to do

  90. it, but it gives God all the glory.

  91. OK, so we're going to get into generosity, but I'm going to do

  92. a little mini sermon after I show you my family.

  93. And it's not the generosity sermon, but take a look at my

  94. family. Take a look at this picture.

  95. You'll see our family up there. You'll see my wife Becca up

  96. there and my our oldest son Connor and his wife Alexia on

  97. the far right. And he's holding Beckham and

  98. Anastasia, first two grandchildren, then our youngest

  99. son Logan, his wife Mac, and then our little Enzo.

  100. They just adopted Enzo. And we're so excited to have

  101. three grandkids. And here's where the little mini

  102. sermon comes in. Connor, our oldest son, was born

  103. with autism, OK. And we didn't know it at the

  104. time. We just noticed each little

  105. idiosyncrasy. He'd only sleep in the car seat,

  106. buckled in. If we laid him in the crib,

  107. cried all night, put him in the car seat, He would sleep.

  108. And how many sleep deprivation? You're like, bring that car seat

  109. in, you know, and we're putting it in his room like he likes the

  110. car seat. We're going to do that, you

  111. know? But that was a sign of autism.

  112. And then we noticed that everything was a train.

  113. He lined everything up. So we bought him trains.

  114. And then we noticed that he didn't make eye contact.

  115. And he. Yeah.

  116. And we thought, oh, he's shy. He's very shy.

  117. Father's very outgoing, but he's very shy.

  118. And then we noticed that he only parroted back to us.

  119. Where are we going? Where are we going?

  120. To the mall. To the mall.

  121. So you anywhere. OK.

  122. And we brought him to the doctor, and they said your son

  123. has autism. And we didn't know that.

  124. And they said you need to put him into special Ed and get him

  125. some schooling and help. So we did that.

  126. And we, as we saw him, we just thought we could pray for a

  127. miracle. Let's pray for a miracle.

  128. So we started praying for miracle.

  129. We said, God, we love our Son where he is, but we know that

  130. you're a miracle working God and there's a miracle waiting for

  131. him in heaven. So we're going to pray for that.

  132. And and nothing happened. And I just want you to know that

  133. we loved our son like he was, but we knew a miracle was

  134. possible. And if you have a child with

  135. special needs and you've never read this, there's a poem or a

  136. little story called Welcome to Holland.

  137. Says all your friends are going to Italy and you dream of going

  138. to Italy and your plane gets diverted to Holland.

  139. Don't get bitter. Love Holland.

  140. So we're like, OK, God, we love him.

  141. But you know, we'd love to see heal.

  142. It didn't happen. So after two years of praying, I

  143. gave up. I'm just going to be honest, I

  144. gave up. I said, God, you're a kind God

  145. and a loving God. But I'm not seeing very much

  146. power right now. So I'm not even going to pray

  147. for it. I don't even know how I'm going

  148. to have faith for anybody else. And can I tell you that's a

  149. terrible way to live. Don't let your reality go

  150. against God's word. God's word is true no matter

  151. what your reality is. So I'm living.

  152. Yeah, that's that's somebody needed to hear that.

  153. And so one day this visiting pastor is there and he goes,

  154. hey, is there anything we can pray for?

  155. And I was just about to say church growth or better

  156. offerings or some pastoral prayer request.

  157. And my wife goes, our son has autism and we want to see him

  158. healed. And I'm thinking we kind of gave

  159. up on that one. But I'm not getting in front of

  160. Mama bear. How many, you know what I'm

  161. talking about? You're just not.

  162. She's kind of tenacious in that moment.

  163. And, and he goes, OK, so he lays hands on our son.

  164. And he goes, the Lord has heard that you've called him a good

  165. God and a kind God. But now to show you that he's a

  166. powerful God, he's going to heal your son for his glory.

  167. How many of you got my attention now?

  168. Word of knowledge going on right there.

  169. And he lays hands on Connor. And Connor gets done, the

  170. prayers finished. Connor looks up.

  171. He goes, hey, dad, where are we going?

  172. He starts to play with all the other kids.

  173. He starts to run. Miraculously healed 100% of

  174. autism just like that. We, we bring him to the teacher

  175. at special Ed. We bring him in teacher Pam.

  176. We're like, look, she goes, Oh my goodness.

  177. She gets her supervisor. She goes test Connor and she

  178. goes, what am I looking for? He's he's, I don't see anything.

  179. She goes, he had autism. He got miraculously healed in

  180. church yesterday. The supervisor goes, I don't

  181. believe in healing. I don't believe it happened.

  182. I believe you've been putting a perfectly normal child in

  183. special Ed for two years. How dare you steal from Special

  184. Ed? And I said, yeah, it's every

  185. parent's dream to RIP off Special Ed.

  186. You know, I said, no, God healed my son, and he gets all the

  187. glory. Yeah.

  188. So now I share this with you. And.

  189. And I can't show a family picture and not give God the

  190. glory. Do you see what I'm saying?

  191. So let me just show you how your miracle is possible.

  192. All right? I just want to show you

  193. something. Put this slide up on the screen.

  194. I want to show you where you're at.

  195. You're living in your now. But the Bible says in first

  196. Peter 24 that by his stripes you're healed, that Jesus Christ

  197. has already paid for your healing.

  198. The Bible also tells us in Revelation 21 that whatever is

  199. wrong on this earth will be righted in heaven.

  200. It's going to be fixed. OK, so go ahead, put the next

  201. slide up. What we're doing when we're

  202. praying for this right now, we're acknowledging where we

  203. are. We're saying, God, I know I'm in

  204. this sickness. I'm not denying it, but I am

  205. asking for what you paid for on the cross.

  206. And I'm asking for what is waiting for me into heaven to be

  207. pulled into my now. And you see the line with the

  208. miracle. That's all it is.

  209. So we can have faith to pray for this.

  210. It's waiting for us in heaven. And you're not crazy to say I

  211. believe I'm healed. Well, in heaven, I'm healed.

  212. I know my reality right now, but I'm aligning with heaven's

  213. reality. And you say, can we do that?

  214. Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in

  215. heaven. Do you understand?

  216. You're just saying I want heaven's reality in mine now.

  217. Now you don't control the release date.

  218. Some people make us feel guilty, like if you had faith, you'd get

  219. it. Otherwise, you know, how about

  220. me? I had given up.

  221. How about the man at the pool of Bethesda?

  222. He didn't even know who Jesus was.

  223. So don't live under any condemnation.

  224. Just realize we serve a loving God that releases miracles into

  225. our now. Can I just share something with

  226. you? When my kids were little, they

  227. used to ask for ice cream. This way.

  228. They go, dad, you're probably not going to do it.

  229. And I go, what am I not going to do?

  230. And they're like, well, you're probably not going to get us ice

  231. cream. I said, don't ever come to me

  232. and ask for ice cream like that ever again.

  233. Do it like this. Hey, Dad, you're the best dad on

  234. planet earth. Wouldn't today be a great day

  235. for ice cream? How many know they got a lot

  236. more ice cream that way? We go to God for a miracle.

  237. We say, God, you're probably not going to do it.

  238. Why don't we go to God? God, you're a loving God and a

  239. Thai God. Wouldn't it be just like you?

  240. They say wait, wait. Sometimes I'd say to the kids,

  241. it's not the time for ice cream. It's 4:00.

  242. Dinner's coming, trust me. Ice cream's coming.

  243. Just trust me. I'm a loving dad.

  244. Ice cream's coming after dinner. So we got to trust our loving

  245. heavenly Father. He releases it at the right

  246. time, but we're allowed to ask. So if faith is rising up in you

  247. right now and you want me to pray with your prayer, maybe

  248. you've prayed against the disease, the sickness, something

  249. you didn't want to know in the name of, and you just want to

  250. say, God, one more time, I want to pray for a miracle.

  251. I want to join your faith in my faith.

  252. Let's pray together. Raise your hand here at all the

  253. campuses, East downtown Cape Coral.

  254. Come on, raise your hand if you're believing, Lord, you see

  255. these hands. We are believing for miracles.

  256. We are believing for miracles. Lord, forgive our just giving

  257. up. Lord, I just said you're kind

  258. God and loving God, but you are a powerful God.

  259. And so God, I pray that you would still do miracles.

  260. You would do breakthroughs, things that they've been waiting

  261. for. I pray with them, their 100th

  262. prayer, their thousandth prayer. I pray Lord Jesus and come to

  263. agreement they're one day closer to their miracle and today would

  264. be a great day for a miracle to be released.

  265. Lord, we trust you. We trust you with the timing,

  266. but we will not stop asking for what is waiting for us in heaven

  267. to be released into our now. And when it does, we will give

  268. you all the praise and all the glory and all the honor because

  269. you are a powerful God and it's your name, Jesus, that we lift

  270. up and pray in. Amen, Amen, Amen.

  271. Come on, let's thank God for what he has done, what he will

  272. do. Thank you so much.

  273. Appreciate that. That was awesome.

  274. I said if you keep going, I'll go to the altar call right now.

  275. We're here to talk about generosity and I want to read

  276. the Scripture, 2nd Corinthians 9/11.

  277. Apostle Paul says you'll be enriched in every way so that so

  278. that you can be generous on every occasion and through US,

  279. your generosity will result in Thanksgiving to God.

  280. I want to talk to you about living out your so that you've

  281. been enriched in all these ways so that you can be generous.

  282. Now you say, well, I, I don't feel rich.

  283. I didn't say you had to be rich. I said you could be generous.

  284. I've seen rich people that are not generous and I've seen poor

  285. people that are like take the shirt off their back, give it to

  286. you. There's something about this

  287. living out the so that, and I want to let you know that where

  288. we live, it makes this verse really apply to us.

  289. In the Bible, we have been enriched.

  290. Where we live right now, we have been enriched.

  291. If you make $50,000 in America, 50,000, you're one of the

  292. richest 1% on planet Earth. Now we compare to millionaires

  293. and billionaires, but 50,000 means you're the richest 1% on

  294. planet Earth. We better get this right to live

  295. out the so that and so I want to talk to you about a few things

  296. that we've taught to our church and combat a couple lies that

  297. keep us from living out the so that to be generous.

  298. Now, the first thing we teach at our church is generosity starts

  299. with understanding. Like we're going to start with

  300. tithing. And I love that your church does

  301. that. Tithing has come under a lot of

  302. attack. That's giving your first 10th to

  303. the work of the Lord saying God, I honor you and you're my God

  304. and I'm on mission with you. I live differently and I honor

  305. you with this. OK, people say like, well,

  306. that's law. Well, it's in the law, but you

  307. know what? It predates the law, it predates

  308. the law. Abraham before there was law,

  309. there was relationship and Abraham tithe.

  310. Little bit later we see Jacob and Jacob says, God, if you Get

  311. Me Out of this mess, you will be my God.

  312. And what will I do? I'll tithe.

  313. I'll tithe 10% of everything. So I look at that and say a

  314. heart touched by God wants the tithe way before there was ever

  315. lost. So we start there at our church

  316. and we say, if you're not doing that, start there and watch what

  317. God does. And I love that you're in this

  318. series, but then when it comes to living out the so that you're

  319. like, how am I going to live this out?

  320. How am I going to do this? I want to tell you one of the

  321. most important things to do for your Kingdom builders and you're

  322. over and above this to live out the so that is to give your very

  323. first gift, your first gift. Some of you watch Kingdom

  324. builders and you watch these offerings that are received and

  325. you're like, oh, that's for other people.

  326. That's for them. That's not for me.

  327. We're barely getting, we're just going to do the tithe.

  328. We're we're barely getting by. We're not going to do that.

  329. That's for other people. And sometimes you're in a

  330. service like this and you feel a little tinge of like, you know

  331. what? I want to do something.

  332. I want to, I want to, I want to step out and do that.

  333. And then you know what the enemy does.

  334. The first lie that he says to us is your gift won't matter.

  335. Your gift won't matter. Just just keep it.

  336. Don't worry. It it's so interesting to say

  337. it's it's only $50, you're going to get $50.

  338. Don't give it. That's so long, so little.

  339. You know what, just go to bass pro shops and spend it there.

  340. It's better over there at Bass Pro Shops.

  341. The enemy says to the other person that's like, oh, I'm

  342. going to give $500 and the enemy says don't, don't do that.

  343. That gift won't matter, $500 what?

  344. Just go, go to Dick's Sporting Goods and buy that new driver

  345. that that'll be best. Don't.

  346. It won't make a difference for the church.

  347. Isn't it interesting the enemy wants to stop you from giving

  348. your first gift? I had a guy come up to me after

  349. church. True story.

  350. He said I was going to give today, but I don't know it was

  351. only $5000 like that would make a difference.

  352. I was like that, that would that would help.

  353. That would that would work, that would that would really move the

  354. needle. You know it, it is interesting.

  355. Same lie, different amounts, same lie.

  356. The enemy knows that generosity is so powerful as a weapon to

  357. build the Kingdom of God and to do this that he doesn't even

  358. want you to get started. Now, Matthew 621 gives us a

  359. little insight into this. It says for where your treasure

  360. is, there your heart will be. So where you put your treasure

  361. and where you put your money, your heart follows it.

  362. And so when you start giving money to Kingdom builders, you

  363. say, I'm going to live out the so that I'm going to change the

  364. world. This church has vision and I

  365. want to do this. You start living out the so that

  366. and you put a little money there.

  367. Then you're like, Hey, how's it going with the new campus?

  368. Hey, how's the expansion coming? How's the land thing coming?

  369. Because your money is going there and so your heart follows

  370. behind it. And So what the enemy wants you

  371. to do, the enemy says, don't give it.

  372. Keep living selfish, keep going, don't go that way.

  373. Keep spending it on yourself. Don't worry about that's for

  374. other people, not for you. And he doesn't want you to

  375. change your direction because the first gift changes the

  376. direction. Now I had a bill collector come

  377. up to me after church. I was preaching this years ago.

  378. He goes, that's so true. I said, what do you mean?

  379. It's so true. He goes, I collect money for

  380. bills. I collect bills and I'll call

  381. people and they might owe us $10,000.

  382. And he goes and they're walking away from their debt.

  383. And I call them and they answer and I say, can you pay off your

  384. debt? I can't do it.

  385. Can you pay me $20? And he's $20 like 20.

  386. That's that will make a difference.

  387. And he said just send us $20. And as soon as I get them to

  388. send $20, you know what I've done?

  389. I've turned their direction and now they're facing towards their

  390. debt. All $20 did is change the

  391. direction they were living their life.

  392. So the enemy knows if I can keep you from giving $5.50 dollars,

  393. 5, whatever it is, I just want to keep you in that direction.

  394. And the Bible tells us where your treasures there, your heart

  395. will. That's why it's so important.

  396. Can I just tell you as you do your Kingdom builders year after

  397. year, as you expand, as I've heard the vision that your

  398. pastors have, the vision is gigantic.

  399. And so as soon as you can get one gift in, it changes your

  400. direction on this. And then God's like now you're

  401. on the generosity journey. Now you're living out to so

  402. that. All right.

  403. So I just want to speak to somebody.

  404. You've never done it before. This is the time to do it.

  405. This is the time to get in. There's something happening in

  406. your church and you're going to go to the next level, as people

  407. say, for the very first time. We're in, We're in, and our

  408. little added up with everybody else's little is going to add up

  409. to a lot. And we're going to move

  410. mountains. And then here's the thing that

  411. we've taught our church. So first lie is won't matter.

  412. Then there's a tool that we've taught our church and it's in

  413. the book along with different teachings like giving is a

  414. muscle. Who's your source?

  415. But this is a teaching that we've done at our church.

  416. Like now that I'm on this journey with Kingdom builders

  417. over and above living out the so that give me some practical ways

  418. to live out the so that generosity and it's planned

  419. vision dream. That's what we've done at our

  420. church. Planned vision dream.

  421. Here's where I learned that I was in Kenya with this couple,

  422. Clive and Mary. Go ahead and put them on the

  423. screen. Clive and Mary are here.

  424. They could be in your church. They're just a older couple.

  425. They were in Kenya and they started an orphanage.

  426. And I said, this is amazing. You got multi site orphanage all

  427. across Kenya. How did this start?

  428. They said we saw the need of the orphans and we said, God, what

  429. can we do? And so we just said, well,

  430. you've already put this money into our hands.

  431. We're just going to work a plan and buy a little house and start

  432. an orphanage in the house. I said it just started with a

  433. little plan. That's it, I said, But then how

  434. did it go bigger? Because they have this whole

  435. complex in Nairobi. They said one day we're doing an

  436. adoption ceremony and this guy says, Clyde, that's my best

  437. friend and you just gave him and his wife a little baby boy.

  438. I wish there was a way I could say thank you to you for doing

  439. that. Goes, Do you have a vision of

  440. what you want your orphanage to be?

  441. And he goes, I do. Clive goes in and lays the

  442. blueprints down. He goes right over there.

  443. I want a boys dorm right there. I want a girls dorm right there.

  444. I want a baby building. And the guy goes, Clive, I'm

  445. going to build this for you for free.

  446. I mean, I'm like Clive, That's how it happened.

  447. He goes, yeah, it goes. He goes, it's even better.

  448. He goes, he wasn't even a Christian.

  449. He was a Buddhist. A Buddhist guy built his vision

  450. for free. Can you imagine that?

  451. Only God. Only God, I said, but wait,

  452. Clive, you're multi site all across Kenya now you have

  453. orphanages all over. Like how that happened.

  454. He goes, same guy came back three years later and said,

  455. Clive, are you a dreamer? Do you have a dream in your

  456. heart? And Clive said, I do.

  457. He said, I've been praying for these three cities.

  458. I want to do multi site orphanage across Kenya.

  459. And the guy goes, Clive, you're never going to believe this.

  460. I own buildings in those three cities and my company is leaving

  461. Kenya. We're going to give them to you

  462. for free. Imagine that all from planned

  463. vision dream. This guy has multi site.

  464. And by the way, one of the orphanages in in in in Nairobi

  465. is on the road where all the consulates are, all the

  466. ambassador like embassies are right there.

  467. And then there's the orphans right in the middle of it.

  468. Only God could put, you know, orphans right next to

  469. ambassadors, you know? Yeah, incredible.

  470. And as I'm leaving there, wow, that's pretty cool.

  471. Plan, vision, dream. I felt God say that's how you

  472. should teach people to live out the so that they can be

  473. generous. Plan, vision, dream.

  474. So it starts with this a plan. What?

  475. What's your plan to give? What is God already placed in

  476. your hands? Just like Clive and Mary, a lot

  477. of us say, oh, I want to do this way out here.

  478. God's like, no, what have I put in your hands already?

  479. Plan, vision, dream. So the plan is Psalm 20, verse

    Psalms 20:4

  480. 4. May He give you the desires of

  481. your heart and make all your plans succeed.

  482. He's already put resources in your hands.

  483. All you have to do is decide how much you'll give over and above

  484. your tide to keep blessing the Kingdom of God $50.00 a month

  485. $100 a month 505,000. I don't know what God's put in

  486. your hands already, but you just worked the plan.

  487. But you don't stop there. Then you have a vision.

  488. A vision, Habakkuk Tutu. And the Lord answered me.

  489. Write the vision down. Make it plain on tablets so he

  490. may run Who reads it? Write down a vision amount every

  491. year. God, here's what I'm going to

  492. do. Because you've already kept me

  493. alive and you put it in my hands.

  494. But I believe there's more in your hands and I'm going to

  495. write it down. And if you put that amount into

  496. my hands, I'm going to give it towards the work.

  497. It's called a faith promise. It's just living what Hebrews 11

  498. talks about. Without faith, it's impossible

  499. to please him. So you're just believing God.

  500. You, you have more in your hands than I have in my hands.

  501. And so I'm going to trust you to put it in mine.

  502. And when you do, I want to live out the so that I, I, I live in

  503. such a generous place and such a wealthy place, I'm going to try

  504. to live out this. So that, and then the third one

  505. is to have a dream. Have a dream of what's the

  506. greatest gift you could ever give to God.

  507. See, you simply work the plan and you write the vision down.

  508. I tell everybody, hold on to the dream.

  509. Just hold it. Don't tell anybody.

  510. Like when I see people sharing dreams too early in their life,

  511. like I see their brothers getting jealous, throwing you in

  512. a pit, selling me into slavery. Some of you know that story

  513. about Joseph. So just hold the dream.

  514. Hold the dream. All right, hold it, hold it, all

  515. right, hold it. And you just hold on to it and

  516. see God, could you let me ever give that amount of money?

  517. Wouldn't it be incredible if I could do that?

  518. And you say, can can we do that as Christians?

  519. How come the world gets to do it?

  520. Think about all the athletes when they signed the big

  521. contract, they've been dreaming of the day they and they signed

  522. that contract. And then they say it's always

  523. been a dream of mine to buy my mom and dad a house.

  524. And the day I'm buying them, how come they get to live like that?

  525. But I can't live like that for Jesus.

  526. And so everyone in our church just is working the plan,

  527. writing the vision down, saying God, we're going to write it

  528. down. We're going to pray for it.

  529. And then we're going to have that dream.

  530. You're going to do like Ephesians talks about,

  531. immeasurably more than we could ask or imagine.

  532. And we're just going to hold on to that dream and see what

  533. happens. Now, let me give you some

  534. practical ways that this works in our life.

  535. Park is a young man in our church, 14 years old.

  536. He's an youth group. Here's this message.

  537. And so he goes, I like this. I think God has more in his

  538. hands than I have in mind. And he says to his mom and dad,

  539. I'm going to give $500 this year.

  540. God's going to put $500 in my hands.

  541. And they're like, Park, you have $50.00 in your dresser drawer.

  542. And, and the dad said this on the way out of church, he said

  543. to his wife, looks like we're going to write a check at the

  544. end of the year so Park can reach his goal.

  545. That's what he said at the end of the year, Park didn't give

  546. $500, Park gave $1200. And his mom and dad sent me a

  547. text. They said forgive our lack of

  548. faith. Our little boy had more faith

  549. that God had more in his hands than we did.

  550. And here we are. So it worked for Park, another

  551. family in our church, young married couple.

  552. You know, again, remember, this is for everybody.

  553. This is not for rich people. It's for generous people.

  554. During COVID, they, they had their bills just like everybody

  555. else. But he kept his job and so he

  556. got the stimulus check. So he got the stimulus check and

  557. he said, you know what? I kept my job.

  558. Why do we give that to Kingdom builders?

  559. So each year they're given the stimulus checks right over to

  560. Kingdom builders. Like this is awesome.

  561. Each year we pray planned vision dream as a church and they

  562. prayed and they're in church and he says, honey, I, I think God's

  563. got a bigger number for us this year and the stimulus checks are

  564. over. I don't know how this is going

  565. to happen. She goes, I have a big number

  566. too. He goes, what is your number?

  567. She goes $7500. He goes, that's exactly my

  568. number. So they write it down like God,

  569. we're believing for $7500, it's in your hands, put it in ours.

  570. OK, This is Sunday. On Friday, she looks at their

  571. bank account. There's $7500 from his company

  572. in their account. She calls them up.

  573. She goes, honey, there's $7500 just deposited today.

  574. She goes, go talk to your boss. He goes in there and he goes,

  575. hey, there's like some money in my bank.

  576. If it's a mistake, can I keep it?

  577. You know, like he's like, what happened?

  578. And the boss said, you know what?

  579. I came in on Monday and I just felt so guilty.

  580. We've done so well during COVID and we haven't done bonuses.

  581. So I told our CFO, get everyone a bonus check by Friday.

  582. How many know? You can pray on Sunday?

  583. Your boss can feel guilty on Monday and the check can be

  584. there Friday. How many know?

  585. So you're like, not my boss, not my boss.

  586. OK. Prayer and fasting for your

  587. boss. Sorry, prayer and fasting.

  588. All right, And please, some. I know.

  589. Here's what happens. Some of you right now like that

  590. happens. OK, Wait, wait, wait, wait.

  591. The God we serve when his disciples need to pay their

  592. taxes, he said go catch a fish. And in that fish, there's going

  593. to be a gold coin. The God we serve fed millions of

  594. people every day. Mana came out of the ground

  595. every day. Do we believe that or not?

  596. The God we serve took a little boy's lunch and fed thousands of

  597. people. He can make a boss feel guilty

  598. on Monday in my own life, my wife and I we've lived this up.

  599. We want to lead the way. So we're like playing vision

  600. dream Lord we're just going to work the plan you love it

  601. desires of our OK but we have a vision and six years ago God

  602. said go up $10,000 this year you're going to give 10,000 more

  603. to Kingdom builders than last year.

  604. OK Lord where's the money It's in your hands.

  605. We start to pray. Two weeks later, I get a phone

  606. call and this guy says, hey, we'd like to know if you'd like

  607. to join our board. And I was like, no, I'm not a

  608. lot of boards. I'm so busy, I don't have time.

  609. You know, he goes, well, that's too bad.

  610. We got your name from, you know, my brother-in-law.

  611. He said, you're pastor the loves missions.

  612. We give away money on this board and and each board member gets

  613. $10,000 to give to their favorite charity.

  614. And I said, does Kingdom Builders count as my favorite

  615. charity? And they said, Oh yeah.

  616. I said, when's the board meeting?

  617. You know, here's a board in Indiana.

  618. I live in Minnesota. I've never met this guy.

  619. I've met his brother-in-law. They call me and say we want you

  620. to join us. How many know the money was in

  621. God's hands and I just needed to have faith to believe God that

  622. he would do this. He puts it in my hands.

  623. I bring back the $10,000 check. And by the way, the board that I

  624. joined, it was a group in Indiana, a couple guys at

  625. breakfast that said we want to start a business just to give

  626. money to missions. That's all they did.

  627. They started a business and when I joined the board six years

  628. ago, they gave away 890,000. This last year, we gave away $4

  629. million from that. Yeah, yeah.

  630. Oh, and it gets better. They said every board member now

  631. gets 50,000 to bring back. I brought back a check for

  632. 50,000 to Kingdom Builders from a prayer I prayed 6 years ago.

  633. It's in his hands. That's the God we serve.

  634. I mean you, when you think about when the Israelites left Egypt,

  635. it says that the Egyptians threw money at them when they were

  636. leaving. Like take our money, take our

  637. gold. If you put that in a movie, you

  638. wouldn't believe it. That's the God we serve.

  639. All right, one more because there are some business owners

  640. here and I want to speak to you for just a minute and then we're

  641. going to address 1 more lie that attacks us.

  642. OK, couple in our church, business owners.

  643. OK, they're they hear plan vision dream.

  644. I'll tell you they sent me their giving report from years ago

  645. when they joined our church. The first year they joined our

  646. church, they gave 70,000 to Kingdom builders.

  647. They'd never heard planned vision dream.

  648. And he looks at his wife. He said, honey, let's go on this

  649. journey. Let's do this because we could

  650. give a quarter million because let's just do what God put in

  651. our hands. So they start doing it.

  652. They start praying for their vision.

  653. Their vision was a half a million, 18 months later, their

  654. company is exploding and growth. They're giving half $1,000,000,

  655. eighteen months after that. So three years on the journey, 3

  656. years. He calls me up and says pastor,

  657. your wife and my wife and I, we all need to go to dinner.

  658. So we go to dinner and he says it's our joy today.

  659. He said we thought this would take 10 to 15 years to get to

  660. our dream number. We thought it would, but we're

  661. here today to give our dream gift, and it's $1,000,000.

  662. And as he's doing that, they're crying.

  663. My wife and I, we're all crying. And this is what I really did

  664. say this. I go, what's your new dream?

  665. That's what I said. And he goes, I'm not supposed to

  666. tell you. I'm supposed to keep it secret.

  667. And I said, I'll pray for you. I'll cheer you on.

  668. And he said, I want to do it every year for the rest of my

  669. life. And then I said, I pray you live

  670. to be 100. And at the time, he was 39 years

  671. old, and he and his wife have done it every year since.

  672. Matter of fact, the tagline on my book, Giving Meaning to Your

  673. Money came from him, he said. You've given meaning to our

  674. money. Planned vision, dream from Park

  675. as a high schooler to a business owner and everybody in between.

  676. We can live this way, we can live this adventure, we can make

  677. a difference and live out the so that being some of the richest

  678. people on planet Earth. But there's one lie that attacks

  679. the backside of this that I want to address.

  680. The first lie is your gift won't matter.

  681. This lie here is just in case. Maybe we shouldn't give so much

  682. just in case. I know God whispered something

  683. to me to do this year and it felt like a stretch.

  684. But now that I get closer to giving that large amount or

  685. following through with it just in case the economy changes, I

  686. should hold Just in case my retirement portfolio doesn't go

  687. all the way. Like I just in case I live to

  688. 100. Just in case you get see what

  689. I'm saying? It's not unique to us.

  690. It's all over the Bible. Abraham was promised you're

  691. going to have a son. He said my wife is old.

  692. Like, I don't know how that's going to happen.

  693. I'm old. So he says, God, just just in

  694. case you can't have a son through us, here's my servant

  695. Eliezar. He could be my son.

  696. God's like, no, don't want him. OK, God, just in case Sarah and

  697. I can't have a baby, here's Hagar.

  698. We'll have a baby here. Isn't that interesting?

  699. It's all over the Bible. Children of Israel when they

  700. were told manna, it's going to come up every day and you just

  701. take enough for one day. That's all you need.

  702. Don't take any just in case God doesn't show up tomorrow,

  703. because he's going to show up. And if you take any extra, you

  704. know what's going to happen to it.

  705. It's going to turn to rot and it's going to turn to worms.

  706. And the Bible tells us that some of the people took a little

  707. extra just in case God didn't come through for him and it

  708. turned to rot and the maggots. It's all over the Bible and it's

  709. an attack that the enemy says. So I want to speak to anybody

  710. right now that feels a whisper of a gift that's bigger than you

  711. thought. That feels like God's prompting

  712. you to do something. You need to break that lie of

  713. Justin Case off of you in Jesus name.

  714. Jesus is your source. He knows what he's doing.

  715. His promises are true and I know this.

  716. In 2020, God told my wife and I, you will give your dream goal,

  717. you will do it. You've been praying for over 10

  718. years for this dream goal, you will give it.

  719. And that year I'm telling you, royalties came in, inheritance

  720. money, unexpected blessing, and we are sitting with the largest

  721. amount of money ever in our life.

  722. A dream goal to give to God was right there and it's the end of

  723. the year And I said, wow, just in case you think we should hold

  724. like Covid's still going on. It's not over and there's been a

  725. change in the presidency and I don't know, just in case.

  726. So we went to bed that night. We couldn't sleep, couldn't

  727. sleep. Woke up the next morning, my

  728. wife said we can't believe the lie of just in case.

  729. And we Dave it and we shared that with our church, very

  730. vulnerable and transparent that we almost believed the lie of

  731. just in case and held back something God told us to do.

  732. And when we share that with our church, it broke the lie of just

  733. in case off of our church. And our giving was 6.6 million

  734. for Kingdom builders. Now it's 12.5.

  735. We're the exact same size church, exact same size church

  736. as 2019. But something supernatural has

  737. broken off. And some of you need that broken

  738. off in Jesus name. You have enough resources.

  739. You have enough. God's your source.

  740. He will never let you down. If he can make manna grow every

  741. day, He can take care of you. He can take care of you.

  742. The Bible says he knows the number of hairs on your head.

  743. He doesn't see a Sparrow fall without noticing it.

  744. He can take care of you. So Lord, I pray right now for

  745. next level. I pray that they would live this

  746. out. They're going to the next level.

  747. The dream, the vision in this church is so big, they want to

  748. reach the Southwest Florida. So God, we just pray in Jesus

  749. name that people would break Amen.