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Marriage God's Way

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  1. To give somebody a high 5A hug. Come on, tell them God is good,

  2. God is good. Come on everybody.

  3. Welcome to Next Level Church. We're so thankful you're here

  4. today on this holiday weekend. My name is Pastor Josh.

  5. I'm one of our executive pastors and also on our teaching team.

  6. And we are so thankful that you would choose to spend this

  7. weekend with us. Hey, I want to welcome in all of

  8. our locations around here, Next Level Church.

  9. We say that we're one house with multiple rooms.

  10. So I want to welcome in our E location.

  11. Come on Pastor Willie, we're so thankful you're back downtown

  12. location Cape Coral here at Fort Myers, everybody watching

  13. online. Come on.

  14. Would you guys give it up for all the people who are watching

  15. in another room today that make up next level church, we're so

  16. thankful for you. Speaking of thankful, I'm so

  17. thankful for our pastors. Pastor Matt and Sarah Keller,

  18. our Co lead pastors been my pastors my entire life and I'm

  19. so thankful for you. I'm thankful for the way that

  20. you've pastored my life, my marriage, our kids and our

  21. church. We're just so thankful for you.

  22. Come on, would you honor our pastors today?

  23. Just so thankful for you. And Speaking of our pastors,

  24. Pastor Matt did an incredible job to kick off a brand new

  25. series. Come on, brand new series.

  26. Help. Relationships are hard.

  27. Can I get an Amen, everybody, come on, Amen.

  28. What a great, great kickoff last week.

  29. And I am so thankful that this week we get to jump into Part 2

  30. of this series and I get to talk about marriages.

  31. Come on, they gave me the easy one.

  32. Everybody come on, they gave me the easy 1.

  33. And I just want to encourage you listen, if you're married in the

  34. room in any room watching right now, I just hope that your

  35. hearts would be open. But also as I was praying for

  36. this message, I was preparing really felt the Holy Spirit said

  37. that this message is not just for married couples.

  38. This is for singles as well. Come on, all the married people

  39. in every room would say, I wish that I heard this message before

  40. I got married. Come on, everybody.

  41. So I want to challenge everybody in the room.

  42. Come on, let's take notes together.

  43. There's a no card in the seat back in front of you can take

  44. notes on your phone. We're going to have some fun

  45. together and we're going to see that God's going to move in a

  46. powerful way. Come on, let's pray together as

  47. we open God's word. Lord, right right now, we just

  48. thank you. We thank you for your word.

  49. We thank you for a house God that preaches your word.

  50. And so lo, we pray right now, God, we stand on the promise

  51. that your word does not return void.

  52. And so father, I pray that people would not hear my voice

  53. God, but they would hear yours. It's in Jesus name we pray Amen

  54. and Amen. So we're talking about marriage

  55. today. And so I thought it would be a

  56. good time to show you a picture of I love my family.

  57. Come on, everybody. That is the home and family

  58. right there. And my wife, Irena and I in the

  59. middle. Hey, in October, it'll be 19

  60. years that we've been married over 20 years together.

  61. Come on. She's put up with me for a long

  62. time. And as you can tell, I really

  63. love my wife. That's why we have 4 kids.

  64. Come on, everybody. And this is our four kids, our

  65. oldest, Gracie, Oliver, Adelina, and then little Joshie there in

  66. front of me. And yes, the older ones are

  67. getting taller than us. All right, everybody, that's

  68. happening now. Have you ever looked at a family

  69. picture like this and thought, man, that that family must be

  70. perfect, right? Like that fan, like, like how in

  71. the world did they get their boys to wear those button up

  72. shirts? I'm sure that they didn't fight

  73. with them at all to make this picture happen, right?

  74. That the girls weren't taking forever to get ready, right?

  75. Like like that picture this, this is a picture of how perfect

  76. their family is. Everybody's smiling.

  77. But the truth is that's not the reality, right?

  78. Like how many times you look at a picture and you're like, man,

  79. that must be the perfect family. They're not like ours.

  80. They don't go through what we go through.

  81. Hey, the, the truth is it took forever to pick out all the

  82. outfits and get everything to happen.

  83. And we had to bribe them with ice cream.

  84. And they're probably going to tell me later that we didn't get

  85. the ice cream yet. But but that's right.

  86. We look at families and we go, man, that family must be

  87. perfect. That marriage must be

  88. incredible. But what we don't see in this

  89. picture is the last 20 years of everything that Irene and I, and

  90. mostly God has poured into our marriage.

  91. The heartache, the tears, the fighting for our marriage, the

  92. the healing that God has brought us through.

  93. And really it's not even just the last 20 years, but it's

  94. really what we brought into our marriage.

  95. I want to show you another couple pictures right here.

  96. Here's another couple pictures. This is, this is me right here.

  97. This is little Joshy as I used to be called.

  98. Now we have another little Joshy and I'm not so little anymore.

  99. I'm just being honest, right? And then there is my beautiful

  100. wife. There's little Irena.

  101. And this was pictures of us when we were kids.

  102. And when you see those pictures, you see two really happy kids.

  103. But the reality is, is that we both had quiet childhood.

  104. We both came from different, literally different sides of the

  105. world. I, I was born in Indiana and,

  106. and I was born into a family where most of my family had been

  107. divorced and remarried at least once before I was even born.

  108. Like people would say, how do you have so many grandparents?

  109. Because I got step grandparents and regular grandparents and

  110. aunts and uncles, right. And some of you got a nod in

  111. your head because you know what that's like to be in a family

  112. like that. But we grew up in a family where

  113. man, we were loved and we were cared for, but divorce so often

  114. was a part of our families lives.

  115. We would hear things like divorce is not an option, but

  116. all too often we would get to a place where honestly, the people

  117. that we looked up to, my brother and sister and I would end their

  118. marriage, end divorce. And it was hard.

  119. And then there's my wife. My wife was actually literally

  120. born on the other side of the world in a small village in

  121. Ukraine. And when she was five years old,

  122. her mom and dad and five of her, her and five other brothers and

  123. sisters made a decision to move from the only home that they had

  124. ever known from Ukraine to the US.

  125. She was 5 when they moved, but it took four or five months to

  126. get to Buffalo, NY. And so by the time she got

  127. there, she was six years old. And here's the reality.

  128. Her mom and dad have done everything to provide for their

  129. family and to give them a better life.

  130. And I'm so thankful that they made that decision.

  131. But it was hard growing up. It was hard coming to a country

  132. that you'd never been before and trying to learn a language that

  133. you never heard before. And honestly, so many of the

  134. relationships and the marriages that she saw growing up, they

  135. were not divorced. They never got divorced.

  136. But if they look closer, they were unhealthy and they weren't

  137. close to the Lord. This is what Irena and I brought

  138. into our marriage. Here's the next picture that

  139. you'll see of us. This is one of our earliest

  140. pictures when we got together. This was when we first started

  141. to date, which dating wasn't long because it was after a

  142. month of us dating that I asked Irena to be my wife.

  143. Yeah, I knew I had a good one, and I had to snatch her up fast.

  144. Come on, everybody, you can tell them that picture.

  145. I married up. So I had to get, you know, get a

  146. ring on it. And she said yes, she said yes.

  147. And we started to plan our wedding.

  148. And can I tell you, we were so in love.

  149. We were so in love with each other, man, it, it, it was, it

  150. was really love at first sight. And we just, we just grew in our

  151. love for each other as we continue to date and get to know

  152. each other. And then and then she said we

  153. had to have a 15 month engagement.

  154. That was a lot of trust. Come on, that was a long time to

  155. wait right? And I said yes to that and we

  156. got married on October 27th, 19 years ago.

  157. We are so happy we got married and Irena's sister and brother

  158. in We had so many dreams, we had so many things that we wanted to

  159. do and so many things that we felt like God had put in our

  160. heart for what God wanted to do in and through us in our

  161. marriage. And, and it was in that on that

  162. day that we didn't just make a promise to each other, but we

  163. made a covenant with each other. Here's another picture with

  164. somebody you might recognize. That's Pastor Matt at the altar

  165. marrying us. And if you could tell, I would

  166. look too scared to death, by the way, Come on, husband, you know

  167. what I'm talking about. But it was at the altar that

  168. day. The Pastor Matt, like he has in

  169. so many other ways, LED us pastorally to a place to not

  170. just make a promise to each other, but to make a covenant

  171. with each other, a covenant that would last a lifetime.

  172. But we had no idea. We had no idea how hard it was

  173. going to be and what we were stepping into.

  174. And, and for a moment, I want to slow down with our story, but I

  175. want to really slow down and talk about what biblical

  176. marriage is. Because it was in this moment

  177. right here that Pastor Matt was pastoring us and leading us in

  178. our marriage at the very beginning to say this is how

  179. you're you're supposed to live your life.

  180. When it comes to biblical marriage.

  181. I want to give you a working definition of biblical marriage.

  182. Marriage is a holy and sacred union between one man and one

  183. woman. This union is made through a

  184. biblical covenant, not just between a couple, but also with

  185. God. God designed marriage to reflect

  186. the sacrificial love of Jesus and the church, Jesus and the

  187. church. And so I want to give you a

  188. couple things that come out of this when it comes to biblical

  189. marriage. The first one is this is that

  190. biblical marriage is a covenant made between one man, one woman

  191. and God. You see, what was happening at

  192. the altar that day wasn't just between Irena and I.

  193. It wasn't just something that we were making a promise or saying

  194. that we hope we were going to make it one day.

  195. No, we were making a covenant before God.

  196. It was a holy thing that that we just believe that marriage

  197. should not be answered into lightly, that it's a serious,

  198. serious holy thing when we say yes at an altar to somebody in

  199. marriage. Here's what we see in Scripture

  200. that that from the very beginning in Genesis verses 2,

  201. chapter 2, verses 23 and 24, it says this.

  202. The man said this now is bone in my bone and flesh in my flesh.

  203. She shall be called woman. That's what I said when I saw

  204. Arena on the wedding day. Come on, right, she shall be

  205. called woman, for she was taken out of the man.

  206. This is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united

  207. to his wife, and they become one flesh.

  208. Something supernatural happens when you get married, that it's

  209. no longer just the husband and the wife, it is one.

  210. It is one and the Lord. And this is such a powerful,

  211. powerful thing when it comes to marriage that Jesus actually

  212. quotes the Creator and quotes this verse in Matthew 19 verses

    Matthew 19:4–6

  213. 4 through 6. When He said this, haven't you

  214. read? He replied that at the beginning

  215. the Creator made them male and female and said for this reason

  216. a man will leave his father and mother and will be united to his

  217. wife, and the two will become one flesh.

  218. Therefore, let God, what God has joined together, let no one

  219. separate. Come on, we've heard that at

  220. weddings, right? Like what God has put together,

  221. let no one separate. See, Jesus was reiterating the

  222. fact that that what happens in marriages is that we become one

  223. together, that we actually come together, not with a promise or

  224. a contract, but with the covenant.

  225. You see, there's a difference between a contract and a

  226. covenant, right? A contract is a legal, binding

  227. document that has to be drawed up so that the two parties

  228. involved in the in the relationship are can be held

  229. accountable by the contract. But a covenant, a covenant is so

  230. different because the covenant is actually based on trust that

  231. the parties involved in the covenant are going to put your

  232. needs above their own. That's what happened that day at

  233. the altar, that Irene and I were making a covenant not just

  234. between each other, but with God, believing that God was

  235. going to hold each other accountable and hold each other

  236. together. And here's what we see in

  237. Ecclesiastes, that that 2 are better than one.

  238. But even more than that, when we have God in our lives, in our

  239. marriages, that we're a three strand cord that is not easily

  240. broken. Look what it says.

  241. It says that well, though one may be overpowered, 2 can defend

  242. themselves. And a cord of three strands are

  243. husband, a wife, and God is not quickly broken.

  244. So the first thing that a biblical marriage is it is a

  245. covenant made between one man, one woman and God.

  246. The second thing that I want you to see is this is that a

  247. biblical marriage is designed by God to reflect the sacrificial

  248. love of Jesus and the church. This is such a big deal because

  249. here's what the devil doesn't want us to realize is that a

  250. marriage, our marriage is actually a picture.

  251. It's a reflection of how Christ loves the church and because of

  252. Christ's love for us and how much we love him, that when we

  253. actually do marriage the way that God's called us to, that it

  254. is the greatest reflection of what it looks like to be in love

  255. with Jesus. My greatest testimony to my 4

  256. kids is actually how I love my wife.

  257. It communicates to them so much more than anything else I will

  258. ever say or do. But how I love their mom will

  259. communicate how much I've received Christ's love and vice

  260. versa. Here's what it says in Ephesians

  261. 5. This this incredible verse,

  262. these verses where Paul breaks down what it looks like for

  263. husbands and wives to be in marriage together the way that

  264. God has called us to. But at the end of this

  265. conversation, I love what he says because he brings a

  266. profound mystery into the light. What the devil doesn't want the

  267. world to know is that our marriages are one of the most

  268. powerful things that we have to share the gospel of Jesus

  269. Christ. Look what he said.

  270. Look what he said here in Ephesians 5, 31 and 32 said for

  271. this reason. Listen, this might sound

  272. familiar, which is amazing because it goes all throughout

  273. Scripture. For this reason, a man will

  274. leave his father and mother, you're going to be able to quote

  275. this by the end of the the message and be united to his

  276. wife and two will become flesh. 1 flesh.

  277. This is a profound mystery. Paul says this is a profound

  278. mystery, but I am talking about Christ and the church.

  279. When we think about marriage, when we think about marriage,

  280. the way that God has called us to live out our marriages, we

  281. have to start with the fact that Christ loved us first.

  282. Remember last week Pastor Matt talked about this verse in first

  283. John 4/19. He said we love, come on,

  284. somebody we love the way that God's called us to love because

  285. he's first loved us. I don't know about you, but I'm

  286. so thankful for the salvation that we have found in Jesus

  287. Christ. Can I get an Amen that he saved

  288. our lives, that he loved us enough, God loved us enough to

  289. send his Son Jesus to come and to die on the cross for us.

  290. It's kind of love that God's called us to live within our

  291. marriage. So I want to show you a new

  292. picture of Irene and I. This was taken just a couple

  293. months ago. This was after we were out to

  294. dinner for somebody's birthday and we were hanging out

  295. afterwards. And the reason I picked this

  296. picture is because some of the early pictures, when I see them,

  297. I actually see a lot of the heartache and the pain that we

  298. went through. But when I see this picture, I

  299. see a husband and wife who love each other because Christ first

  300. loved us. I'm so thankful that Irene and I

  301. have gotten to this place. But I want you to know, listen,

  302. first of all, we're not perfect. We're still figuring it out.

  303. And sure enough, the, the week that I preach on on on marriage,

  304. we get in a huge fight on Monday.

  305. Come on, everybody, right. Like we're just figuring it out

  306. too. We're trying to work through our

  307. stuff just like everybody else's.

  308. But we have we've learned so much from so many other people

  309. that we want to share with today.

  310. I love and the Ephesian verses where it actually talks about in

  311. Ephesian 5 where Paul actually lays out what it looks like for

  312. husbands to love their wives, for wives to love their husbands

  313. so that we could be this profound mystery being unlocked

  314. to the world that we are the love of Christ and the love that

  315. he has for the church and the church to him.

  316. Here's what I see in Ephesians 525.

  317. It says this husbands love your wives just as Christ loved the

  318. church and gave himself up for her.

  319. We see this, we also see a little further where he

  320. encourages wives to respect and submit to their husbands as the

  321. church submitted to Christ. And then he continues on and he

  322. does that verse that I just went to where it talks about this

  323. profound mystery that is unlocked when we're talking

  324. about Christ and the church. But can I be honest with you?

  325. There was probably about 9-10 years ago, Irina and I were

  326. trying to figure out how to live life out, how to live our

  327. marriage out in this way that that Paul was talking about.

  328. Can I be honest with you? There were times that I did not

  329. want to lay down my life for my wife.

  330. Just being real with you, there were times when my wife looked

  331. at me and said, it's hard for me to respect you and to follow you

  332. because of the way that you're living your life.

  333. It has me thinking about a story that happened to me about 1213

  334. years ago. We were actually going to have a

  335. staff retreat here at the church.

  336. And we love to have fun at the church.

  337. We love to have a good time. And so we had a decision to

  338. start our staff retreat out with bubble soccer everybody.

  339. All right now, bubble soccer is a fun sport.

  340. It's a fun sport. You might be wondering what in

  341. the world is bubble soccer, right?

  342. Well, I I figured you would ask, so I wanted to actually show you

  343. a video, a bubble soccer. This is bubble soccer.

  344. Yeah. That looks like a good time,

  345. right? Come on.

  346. That is a good, good time, right.

  347. And so we made a decision that we were going to do bubble

  348. soccer. And I was so excited.

  349. I grew up playing football. I thought, man, this is the

  350. first time in 10 years I get to hit somebody else and it's

  351. legal. Come on, somebody.

  352. And so we go out, we get into the big bubble balls.

  353. They come down to right to my knees.

  354. I'm literally above my head because I'm sure.

  355. And we're in these bubble balls and we're playing soccer.

  356. And I actually never really played soccer before, but I was

  357. excited. I see the ball, I see an open

  358. goal. I run up to the ball, I plant my

  359. left leg, put all my weight on my left leg, and I kick the ball

  360. in about the right. At that same time, somebody from

  361. my peripheral comes up and one of the other males on her staff,

  362. and he hits me as hard as he possibly can.

  363. In that moment, something snapped in my leg.

  364. Oh yes, yes it did. It's I can still feel it.

  365. I can still hear the snap. It snapped in my leg.

  366. And what I would later find out is that I tore my ACL, did way

  367. more than tore my ACL. And in that moment, Pastor

  368. Lewis, another staff member, they picked me up.

  369. They started to Take Me Out to the car and I passed out.

  370. Now, have you show of hands? How many has ever passed out?

  371. It's weird, right? It's just a weird experience,

  372. right? So I pass out, I wake up and

  373. I'll never forget this. I wake up, I'm on my side, I

  374. wake up and my pastor, Pastor Matt, who's been there for me

  375. since I was 15 years old at my wedding when my kids were born,

  376. all kinds of stuff. Walk me through thinking my

  377. pastor is rubbing ice on my neck and praying for me.

  378. Come on, That is the pastor that you have.

  379. He's there for us. I'm so thankful for he's just

  380. rubbing ice on my neck and he's praying for me.

  381. And next thing I know, somebody's praying for my knee

  382. and they're touching my knee and I'm like, stop touching my knee.

  383. And, and here's what they told me later is that as soon as it

  384. happened, it sounded like a bear was bear was being hurt

  385. somewhere that I was like, and I was stuck in the bubble ball

  386. because it was plastic and there was sweat.

  387. I couldn't get out of the bubble ball.

  388. I finally got out of the bubble ball.

  389. All this happened. I go to the hospital, sure

  390. enough, I tear my tip my, my ACL after three or four weeks, my

  391. wife is taking care of me. She's taking care of the kids.

  392. She's feeding all of us, she's cooking.

  393. We go to all these doctor's appointments.

  394. And sure enough, after three or four weeks, I'm up.

  395. I'm, I'm starting to move around a little bit, but we go to the

  396. orthopedic and she looked at me and she said, Pastor Josh, if

  397. you don't have surgery to replace your ACL, you'll be able

  398. to move around. You'll be able to do some stuff.

  399. But 10 years from now, you won't be able to do the things that

  400. you do today. You won't be able to go out and

  401. play with the kids in the backyard.

  402. You won't be able to walk up on a stage and preach because

  403. you'll have to go upstairs. And so we need to go in and we

  404. need to replace that ACL. So we made a hard decision, my

  405. wife and I to do that. She said, hey, there might be

  406. some more painful days of in the future to get to a place of

  407. healing, but we got to do that so we can get you to where you

  408. need to be. We had the surgery, we were in

  409. the surgery. They told us that they would

  410. replace the ACL and I'd be able to put weight on.

  411. It came out, I didn't just fracture or tear my ACL.

  412. I fractured my tibia at the same time.

  413. They said you can't put weight on it.

  414. So it was months, months of being on a scooter for six

  415. months, going to physical therapy, All the pain, all the

  416. heartache. But I'm so thankful that I had

  417. that surgery because there was something on the inside that I

  418. had no idea was affecting my day-to-day life.

  419. That God allowed that surgeon to go in and use her gift to fix

  420. it. That today I can go out and I

  421. can play with my kids. I can watch two walk two or

  422. three miles three or four times a week.

  423. I can walk up on this platform and preach God's Word to you

  424. because I made a decision. But can I be honest with you?

  425. I want to submit to all of you in the room, whether you're

  426. married or you're not. I have a feeling that there's

  427. some things happening inside of our hearts that we've brought

  428. into our present day life that because we haven't allowed the

  429. surgeon, the Holy Spirit to come in and bring some healing to

  430. some unhealed places in our life, they're affecting our

  431. day-to-day lives in ways that we can't even imagine.

  432. I want to show you this picture again of little Josh and little

  433. Irina. You see, the reality was, is

  434. that the things that happened to us when we were children, we

  435. brought into our marriage. The things that we went through

  436. when we were little kids, we brought into our marriage when I

  437. was six years old. I'll never forget my mom and dad

  438. had tried so hard two or three times.

  439. My dad had moved out, moved back in, and they finally made the

  440. decision they were going to get a divorce.

  441. I'll never forget the day that my brother and my sister and my

  442. mom and I were in the car when we were leaving.

  443. We packed up the car. My dad walked around to the

  444. window of our car. I rolled the window down because

  445. that's how you used to roll the window down.

  446. And he kneeled down to me and he said, now you're the man of the

  447. house. Now he was innocent in what he

  448. was saying, but I took that as to heart that day.

  449. And can I tell you that throughout my childhood,

  450. everything, every time something bad happened, every time the

  451. water got cut off because we couldn't pay the bill, every

  452. time somebody got sick and we couldn't do something or we

  453. couldn't do anything good in our family.

  454. Literally, I felt like I wasn't good enough because I had this

  455. mindset that it was me, that it was up to me, 5 year old little

  456. Joshie. I took this mindset into my

  457. adult life and the enemy used it to, to reinforce this mindset

  458. that I wasn't good enough over and over again.

  459. I had a learning disability. And because of that, I believe

  460. that I just wasn't good enough. I was dumb and then I had failed

  461. relationships after failed relationships.

  462. And I really believe that the devil was true in my life, that

  463. that I was not good enough. And I brought this into our

  464. marriage. Adelina or Irena, Adelina's my

  465. daughter, and she looks just like her in that picture.

  466. Irena she was six years old, first grade, came into a

  467. classroom for the very first time after moving from Ukraine,

  468. did not know any English. Nobody in her family did, and

  469. her mom and dad provided for her food and shelter.

  470. But it was over those next couple years that she realized

  471. that if anything else good was going to happen in her life,

  472. that it was up to her. That if she was going to learn

  473. English, it was up to her. If she was going to go to

  474. college, it was up to her. If she was going to do things

  475. like play soccer, it was up to her.

  476. It was all up to her. And the truth is, is that we got

  477. to a place where we have what we believe and what we call is a

  478. stronghold in our lives and our freedom curriculum, which I'm

  479. going to talk about in a minute, we actually lay out what a

  480. stronghold is. But I want to read to you the

  481. definition of what a stronghold is.

  482. A stronghold is a defensive mindset that sets itself up

  483. against God's voice and provokes unhealed places in our hearts.

  484. It provokes unhealed places in our hearts.

  485. My stronghold was that I wasn't good enough, that I was not good

  486. enough. And it did not matter how much

  487. God would speak to me over and over again when I was a child,

  488. when I was became adult because I had a defensive mindset that

  489. was set up against the very voice of God in my life.

  490. And then Irena, it was all up to her.

  491. That was the stronghold that she brought into our marriage, that

  492. it was all up to her. And here's what I want you to

  493. see is that our strongholds actually provoked each other.

  494. That these unhealed places in our hearts, these strongholds,

  495. they provoked each other. Here's the best way I can

  496. explain it. When Irene and I first got

  497. married, she worked third shift at the hospital as a CNA, and

  498. she would give me A to do list, the honey To Do List.

  499. Come on guys, you know what I'm talking about, right?

  500. And let's say there was 10 things on the honey To Do List

  501. and she would come home on Thursday or on Friday morning

  502. when it was my day off. She would go to bed.

  503. And then all day long I'd work on the hunting To Do List.

  504. And can I tell you I'd get 8 out of the 1010 things done almost

  505. every time. Like it.

  506. I tried. Yeah, yeah.

  507. Come on. You can clap for me.

  508. Yeah, that's good. And and hey, this UN dealt with

  509. unhealed, healed, healed place in me was like, I can't wait

  510. till she wakes up. I can't wait to tell her about

  511. the eight things that I did. All the how great of a husband I

  512. am, how awesome I am. And then she would wake up and

  513. sure enough, she would ask me about the two things that I did

  514. not do right. Come on, you know what I'm

  515. talking about. And here was the reality was it

  516. poked, it poked. It provoked the unhealed place

  517. in my heart when she brought up the two things and I freaked

  518. out. I had freak out moment after

  519. freak out moment after freak out moment and I would go forget it.

  520. I can't do anything that's going to be enough for you.

  521. I'm just not good enough. I can't believe that you're even

  522. with me. And I would even go to the place

  523. that I believed in my heart that she was going to leave one day

  524. because I had a stronghold that I walked into our marriage with.

  525. And then here's what I want you to see.

  526. At the very same time, when I would freak out because I was

  527. provoked and an unhealed place, I would provoked her unhealed

  528. place too, because now she started to believe the truth or

  529. that the lie that what she started to believe a lie to be a

  530. truth that it was all up to her. Now I'm going to have to take

  531. care of everything. Even in my marriage.

  532. I had to do it growing up and now I got to do it with my

  533. husband. And can I tell you, the last

  534. thing that was on my mind when we were fighting, we were going

  535. through all of that was I want to lay down my life for my wife,

  536. just as Christ did. The last thing that was going

  537. through her mind was I want to respect Him and submit to Him.

  538. That was the last thing. The last thing in our minds was

  539. that we were going to do this together.

  540. We thought for sure that this was going to end in tragedy.

  541. But then the Lord reminded us about 10 years ago, we came to a

  542. crossroads. He reminded us the commitment,

  543. the covenant that we made to each other, that it wasn't just

  544. me and her in this marriage, but it was me and her and God.

  545. And it was about that time that we came out with the Freedom

  546. curriculum. And I'll never forget Pastor

  547. Matt and Sarah said, hey, we want some of you to go through

  548. it for the very first time. And so I said yes, I think they

  549. actually said we're going to need you to do it as a staff

  550. member. So I said yes.

  551. And Freedom is just this special thing.

  552. If you've been through it, you know, honestly, there's been

  553. thousands of people that have gone through it now we went

  554. through it and we started to identify the lies that the enemy

  555. had been lying to us about, started to identify the fear in

  556. our life. The fear of abandonment in my

  557. life was so real. And then to get to a place where

  558. I identified that I had this, this stronghold, this, this

  559. mindset, the defensive mindset up against God's voice in my

  560. life that was provoked that I wasn't good enough.

  561. I'll never forget week 10 freedom experience.

  562. And when you do it, you're it's guys with guys and girls with

  563. girls and I'm I'm around the circle with six other guys.

  564. We had just walked through so much together and and my leader

  565. walk me through going back to that moment, being in the car

  566. that day when I was five years old.

  567. Walk me through the moment where my father kneeled down and said,

  568. now you're the man of the house. And, and I just had this picture

  569. because I remember what happened, but I in that moment,

  570. God actually showed me what was really happening in the

  571. supernatural. I just felt like God the father

  572. was just reaching his hand out, putting his hand on my shoulder

  573. and just saying, Josh, I love you and I'm never going to leave

  574. you or forsake you. This isn't up to you.

  575. This isn't your job. This isn't your weight to carry

  576. and you're more than enough. I'll never forget what I felt

  577. that day. I felt like the Lord literally

  578. say that you are. You are fearfully and

  579. wonderfully made like you are clever, you are smart, you're

  580. not dumb. Literally in that moment, it was

  581. like literally it was healing that I didn't think was

  582. possible. I didn't know that there was

  583. such this deep, deep thing that was inside of me that was

  584. affecting my everyday life and I was healed.

  585. I was healed from it. It was, it was the next

  586. semester, Irena was asked to go through freedom and, and she

  587. said yes. And I'll never forget, we get to

  588. the end of the freedom semester and we're back in Pastor Sarah's

  589. office, myself, Irena and Pastor Sarah.

  590. And she's walking her through that moment in that classroom,

  591. that moment, that moment when that little girl started to

  592. believe a lie from the enemy that she was all alone.

  593. And then it was all up to her. And here's what happens.

  594. Like, like if we're not careful, we do a couple different things

  595. in our marriage. If we're not careful, we

  596. actually, instead of going to God, we go to other people.

  597. And, and some of it's innocent. Some of it's like, man, I'm just

  598. going to go to my accountability partner, my friend.

  599. I'm going to go to my, you know, Irene into her girlfriends.

  600. And some of it's innocent. But the truth is, man, my

  601. friends only heard one side of the story.

  602. Her friends only heard one side of the story.

  603. And so, so when we go to God, there's something powerful that

  604. happens. When we go to a counselor,

  605. something powerful happens because they see the whole story

  606. and they want to help us. And maybe you're hearing you

  607. actually went to somebody else and you stepped out in your

  608. marriage and you thought you thought, I can't get what I need

  609. in this marriage, so I got to go get it from somebody else.

  610. And here's what I just believe. I believe that that you're

  611. trying to fix the problem, but really you're looking at

  612. symptoms because the symptom is when we go everywhere else and

  613. try to find fixes everywhere else.

  614. And here's the reality. We do this with our spouses too,

  615. because the truth is, I can't get everything that I need from

  616. my arena. I can only get everything I need

  617. from God and the healing that needs to take place so that all

  618. the other things don't keep happening.

  619. You're like, why do I keep cheating on my wife?

  620. Why do I keep doing this with my against my husband?

  621. It's because there's some undealt with pain inside of your

  622. heart that God wants to heal. And he's the only one.

  623. And then Irene and I, sometimes we would go to each other.

  624. But as I've already illustrated, the problem is when there's

  625. strongholds that aren't healed by God, we just provoke each

  626. other over and over and over again.

  627. And there is a time, there is a time in a Christian marriage

  628. where we come back together, Amen, where God heals us.

  629. But I want you to see this because as we started to go

  630. through freedom, as we start to live out a freedom like life,

  631. listen, freedom, we say this all time, the, the freedom, the the

  632. destination is the journey. That freedom, living it every

  633. single day is really the goal. It's not just going through a 12

  634. week course and being done, but it's living in freedom.

  635. And when we did that, when we kept going closer and closer to

  636. God, when we were willing to let him bring healing to our hearts,

  637. we got closer to each other. We got closer to each other.

  638. And it was in that moment when we came back to each other with

  639. healed hearts that we were able to say, God, this is what we

  640. want to give back to you. This is the kind of marriage

  641. that we want to offer each other.

  642. It's in this moment that I'm willing to say, I will lay down

  643. my life for my wife. It's in this moment that my wife

  644. goes, you know what? You're the kind of husband that

  645. I'll follow. Come on, somebody right?

  646. Like this is what God has for us in our marriages.

  647. But all too often, all too often, we stay here and we let

  648. the enemy use these strongholds against us.

  649. When the reality is, is that when we get closer to God, that

  650. he uses what the enemy meant for evil for good.

  651. Because now with healed hearts, my wife is able to look at me

  652. when I get 8 out of the 10 things done because that still

  653. happens and say, hey, I love you.

  654. How can we work together to get these things done?

  655. Because I still got to get done. And I can look back at her in a

  656. safe place and go, I have no idea how to fix that fan and

  657. install it so it doesn't click over and over and over again.

  658. And instead of letting it make me feel like I'm not good

  659. enough, you know what? I'm just, it's just not my gift.

  660. And she says, we'll figure it out.

  661. And then what it does is it brings healing to her because

  662. she goes, I don't have to do it all by myself.

  663. It's not all up to me. So you might be going, Pastor

  664. Josh, what do we do? What, what steps do we take next

  665. here? Here's what I just believe.

  666. I believe that you have to make a choice was a choice that I

  667. made when I when I tore my ACL to say, you know what, doctor, I

  668. trust you to go in and and actually do surgery.

  669. I trust you to take care of the things that I can't see so that

  670. I can live the life that you've called me to be right now.

  671. Some of us were in our marriages and then we're just, we're up

  672. against it. And God is saying, are you

  673. willing? Are you willing to come to me?

  674. Are you willing to find freedom? The first way is this is, it is

  675. a counselor or biblical Christian counselor.

  676. And we, we have vetted a ton of them and we have some amazing

  677. counselors that we want to lead you to.

  678. And here's what I'm asking you to do.

  679. If that's you, if you're here today at the end of service when

  680. our prayer team comes out, Pastor Kevin's going to lead us

  681. after everybody else is left, I want you to come to the prayer

  682. team and I want you to tell them, hey, would you pray for

  683. our marriage and then ask for a counselor.

  684. They're going to give you some next steps to find the right

  685. counselor for you. And you might going, Pastor

  686. Josh, I don't want to come down. People are going to know,

  687. listen, it's OK, we're for you. We're excited for you.

  688. And there's going to be people that come up for other prayer

  689. too. Let's take that step of faith.

  690. Let's let's step into it. Listen, people are anointed and

  691. called and used by God as counselors and therapists.

  692. Amen. And then here's the other thing.

  693. I want to encourage you to sign up for freedom.

  694. We have freedom in the fall again, we do it in the in the

  695. spring and in the fall. You can go to

  696. nextlevelchurch.com/freedom. I want you to write that down.

  697. Listen, husbands, there's part of that Ephesians verse that

  698. talks about how we should lay down our, our lives for our,

  699. our, our, our wives, just as Christ did the church and talks

  700. about how we love because we know how to love ourselves.

  701. Some of us don't know how to love ourselves.

  702. We don't, we don't know how to deal with some of the stuff from

  703. the past. We want to help you with that,

  704. wives, we want to help you with that.

  705. Some of us, we just don't even know what's on the inside that's

  706. affecting our today. And so I want to, I want to

  707. challenge you, I want to implore you to please sign up to be a

  708. part of a freedom group this fall.

  709. Hey, listen, we need help in our marriages.

  710. We need help in our relationships.

  711. And as we close today, I just want to invite everybody at

  712. every location to stand because I, I want us to take a final

  713. step because I think that final step is honestly just to give it

  714. all to God. If you're a single person in the

  715. room right now, this is for you too.

  716. I want to lead us to a simple prayer of a forgiveness of

  717. repentance and then a prayer over our marriages.

  718. Come on. Would you bow your heads and

  719. close your eyes if you're here today?

  720. I love the verse in Psalms 139 where David says, search my

  721. heart, O Lord, and know my innermost thoughts, my anxious

  722. thoughts. If you're here right now, you

  723. say, Pastor Josh, I need to repent right now.

  724. If there's something right now, an act, something said, a way of

  725. thinking maybe with your spouse, maybe somebody else right now, I

  726. just pray that you would just just repeat this prayer to me in

  727. your heart. Lord, I'm sorry.

  728. I repent for those things. I receive your forgiveness now.

  729. Maybe you're here right now and you need to forgive.

  730. There's not enough grace in our marriages as we need to give

  731. more and so right now, whatever that is that that thing you need

  732. to forgive. I just pray that you would have

  733. the strength we this is how we say it in in the freedom

  734. creaking Lord, just as you've forgiven me.

  735. Come on. He's forgiven us of so much.

  736. I choose to forgive. Forgiveness is a choice.

  737. Come on all across this room. Lord, I choose to forgive.

  738. I choose to forgive what they said or what they did or didn't

  739. do. Lord, I forgive right now.

  740. And Lord, we make a choice right now to run to you and our

  741. marriages to run to you before we even get married, God, so

  742. that we could be the spouse that you've called us to be.

  743. Lord, right now I pray a blessing over every marriage

  744. under the sound of my voice. God, I pray right now in Jesus

  745. name that reconciliation and freedom and healing would reign

  746. in our marriages, God. God, that we would run to you

  747. and that you would heal every hurting and broken place in our

  748. hearts so that we could be in great covenant relationship with

  749. each other. And God, we pray that our

  750. marriages would be a reflection, God, that the world around us

  751. would look at us and go, God, that is the people who love you.

  752. And I want to be more like that. Lord, I love you and I'm

  753. thankful for all that you've done in every marriage today.

  754. God, we pray blessing over them in Jesus mighty name.

  755. All of God's people said Amen and Amen.

  756. Come on, can we praise God?