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Hell | Clayton Hentzel

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  1. Man, it is good to be with you. I'm so glad we get an

  2. opportunity to hang out today. I want to welcome all of you

  3. guys. Joining those of you here at

  4. 48th Street, those of you in Macomb, Kirksville 929, Pike

  5. County, Hannibal Lima, Mount Sterling Keokuk, mom, with

  6. Jacksonville online inside. I am just so thankful to be a

  7. part of this church with incredibly awesome people like

  8. you watching the baptism video and just seeing all the

  9. incredible work that's happened you just Can't help but be

  10. grateful to God and be grateful to be a part of this church in

  11. my alone in that. Okay.

  12. You guys are awake. All right.

  13. Hey listen. It's been a hot week, but it's

  14. been raining today. So, you should feel a little bit

  15. better about yourself if you're brand-new to the crossing.

  16. I'm so glad that you're here. Make sure that.

  17. Before you leave today, you spend some time.

  18. Connecting with the campus, pastor, and one of our

  19. incredible staff members difference makers at each of our

  20. location. If you want, you can click on

  21. that QR code. That's in the seat in front of

  22. you. It might be on one of the

  23. screens. And you can click on that and

  24. it'll give you an opportunity to connect with us.

  25. So that way we can help graph g into the family.

  26. You can realize what an incredible group of people you

  27. get an opportunity to be surrounded by because they will

  28. love you. Well, now before I get into the

  29. message, I got to do a little bit of housekeeping with you.

  30. In a couple of weeks, we're going to start a sermon series

  31. on the weekend of Thursday, the 21st and Sunday July 24th.

  32. We're going to start at 12 weeks.

  33. I mean series called weeds in my garden a series on being honest,

  34. about mental health and we are going to spend and I've said

  35. this already that, I believe that these 12 weeks could be the

  36. most important 12 weeks of the year for our church.

  37. And during that sermon series, we are going to be talking

  38. about. Well we're going to be talking

  39. about suicide, we're going to be talking about self-harm, we're

  40. gonna be talking about stress anxiety, burnout, low

  41. self-esteem and depression. It is going to be a

  42. transformative 12 weeks in the life of our church.

  43. It's going to be transformative in your life and it can be

  44. transformative in the life of the people that you love.

  45. And I want to give you three things that I'm going to ask you

  46. to do. Is we prepare for that sermon

  47. series one. I want you guys to continue, I

  48. brought this up a while back. Would you guys keep praying for

  49. Jerry? And I as we're preparing those

  50. messages second thing would you pray for our staff as they're

  51. going to be no doubt feeling lots of questions and

  52. challenging conversations the third thing and I mean this this

  53. is Is going to be an incredible sermon series for you to invite

  54. your friends, your family members, your neighbors, and

  55. your co-workers. Because every person, you know,

  56. Is either dealing with one of those things or has somebody

  57. that they love who is and this sermon series is designed to

  58. give us some help to give us some hope and some put some

  59. tools in our toolbox to help us navigate the days we have

  60. between now and when we get to meet Jesus and it is going to

  61. require our help to be able to do the most good all across this

  62. region. I want to make a special

  63. request. If you are watching this sermon

  64. series from wherever, you're Joining from and you are a

  65. counselor or a mental health professional, would you click on

  66. the QR code that's either on the chair in front of you or it's up

  67. on the screen right here and if you would click on that and when

  68. you do that, there is a it's going to pull up our link tree.

  69. And one of those things in there is counselor info form.

  70. I want you to click on that and I want you to fill out your

  71. information and we Are going to send you an e-mail this week.

  72. That's going to give you a little insight into where we're

  73. going and actually give you the opportunity to help us as we

  74. prepare for that series. I have a team of people that are

  75. all mental health professionals that are going to help guide me

  76. through this sermon series. But we want to give you guys an

  77. opportunity to go on the journey with us because we would greatly

  78. appreciate your help. That being said, I want to give

  79. you a heads up. If you're a parent and you love

  80. bringing your kid to church with you and you love bringing your

  81. kid into the auditorium. Here's what I'm asking is in two

  82. weeks when we start that sermon series, I'm going to encourage

  83. you to not do that. I'm going to give you a couple

  84. reasons why if you have, you know, kids that are in sixth

  85. grade and down. We have incredible programming

  86. at all of our different locations.

  87. If you have a fuse that meets on Sunday morning, I want you to

  88. take full advantage of that and I'm asking you to not bring your

  89. kids for three reasons, one, I don't want to put ideas in your

  90. kids as mind when you haven't been may be prepared to leap

  91. through it, okay? So I'm just, I'm telling you up

  92. front, I don't want to Tucked you in that.

  93. Second thing is your kids will always learn way more in our

  94. kids programming than they ever will hear learning from Jerry.

  95. And I, if you think that they learn more in here than just

  96. pull them out of grade school and just send them straight to

  97. John Wood or Western Illinois or Truman State, but you and I both

  98. know that this is not the best environment for them to learn.

  99. And if you want your kids to learn about Jesus, you want to

  100. put them in the very best possible place.

  101. Place for them to learn about Jesus.

  102. And we spend a ton of money in our church employing, a bunch of

  103. awesome people and buying a bunch of great tools to make

  104. sure that your kids experience is the very best.

  105. It can be for them to learn about Jesus and for them to be

  106. able to have friends that can help them grow with.

  107. Jesus, third reason, I said there was three and I'm a man of

  108. my word. Third reason is I want you to be

  109. a good neighbor. And when your kid is jacking

  110. around in the service, I need you to hear me, there's people

  111. around you that are going to be hanging on for dear life during

  112. that sermon series and they are going to be doing everything

  113. they can to learn, as much as they can.

  114. So they can go home and make a difference in their loved ones

  115. lives, and your kid could be a distraction from that moment.

  116. So, I want you to be a good neighbor.

  117. Now, I'm not saying that today, you know, I love having my kids

  118. come to church, they love coming and Listen to Jerry, just like

  119. my wife got no home team, and I When my kids want it, it's

  120. great. I let them do that after.

  121. They've already been to church because I want them to learn in

  122. an age appropriate environment. We all good, nobody hates me yet

  123. because today we're talking about hell and I wanted to have

  124. everybody on my team. When I did I'm being serious,

  125. okay. We're in a sermon series called

  126. the other side and we're going to be talking about what happens

  127. after you die last week because I love Jerry.

  128. I let him talk about heaven. This week is hell.

  129. And next week, we're going to talk about the two judgments

  130. that every single one of us is going to face.

  131. Whoo, it's been hot this week. Let's just keep it going.

  132. Now, some of you might be wondering why are we talking

  133. about hell this week of all the weeks this is the week.

  134. I was finally able to bring a friend to church.

  135. I get it you might be going some of you just wandered off the

  136. street. You lost a bet at work and here

  137. you are you're just looking for some AC cuz your air

  138. conditioners out and you Load up here.

  139. Listen, I want you to hear me say this.

  140. This is an incredible weekend for you to be in our church.

  141. This is going to be a great message for absolutely every

  142. single one of you to hear. And if you can put up with the

  143. first 20 minutes of this message, and we're already eight

  144. minutes and you only got 12 minutes left of the tough stuff.

  145. The last 10 minutes are going to be life-giving, they're going to

  146. be powerful, they're going to be life-altering.

  147. I is the reason I'm talking about hell is because the Bible

  148. talks about it, And if we are going to be Jesus people, if

  149. we're going to be church people, if we're going to be people who

  150. believe in the word of God, then we have to believe that when the

  151. Bible says that, everything in scripture is useful that us

  152. looking at hell, and expand seeing, what the scripture says

  153. about it is going to be useful to our lives, that we need to

  154. submit Our Lives to God's will God's purposes and God's word.

  155. And if I'm going to be a good pastor, I've got to make sure

  156. that we spend some time talking about all the things.

  157. Things that God talks about and some of you you may be grew up

  158. in a church that talked about hell.

  159. A little too much like it was, you know, he'll all the time and

  160. it was really got around to Heaven.

  161. It was all law and no Grace. You may have had to go to an

  162. old-school. Revival, raise your hand.

  163. If you went to a Revival, my parents took me didn't work but

  164. I went. Yeah.

  165. And you heard that he'll was hot and Eternity was long and you're

  166. like no we got to get out of here.

  167. Okay, however it may be it has been overdone but My worry is

  168. that We probably don't talk about it enough and I just

  169. wanted to at least level the playing field and have an honest

  170. dialogue about it, because there is a lot of confusion not just

  171. in the world but in Christian circles about hell, I'll hear

  172. good, well-meaning Christians say things like well you know

  173. more of a new testament, Christian person, a more of a

  174. love and grace guy and I you know hell and all that wrath.

  175. That's Old Testament. That's cute.

  176. It look good on a bumper sticker.

  177. Might make for a good Christian, Jesus.

  178. And shirt for you to wear to your new Christian band that you

  179. like to go to. But hear me guess who talked

  180. about hell more than anybody else.

  181. Jesus whoa. Yeah, check this one out.

  182. Guess who talked about it more than everybody else combined?

  183. Yeah, that new testament. Guy were a big fan of Jesus.

  184. If it was important to Jesus, the probably ought to be

  185. important to us. Now there's a lot of ideas

  186. floating around from atheists and religious people about what

  187. happens after we die. So, we're going to spend a

  188. couple minutes, just going through all of them, The

  189. Atheist, they believe they're Bound by Evolution and so they

  190. believe that when we die, that's it game over.

  191. There's nothing after it, they have to become a naturalist,

  192. there's no way away from it for them.

  193. However, An atheist believes that there is ultimately no

  194. right? And ultimately no wrong.

  195. There is no higher power and there is no higher purpose.

  196. If a person is an atheist, their moral High Ground is either

  197. grounded in the worship of self. Whatever is good for them or

  198. popular opinion, whichever group is in power.

  199. The problem with the atheistic worldview is that it reinforces

  200. a philosophical A belief in survival of the fittest.

  201. That means that at some point in time, in order for you to

  202. advance in order for you to win, in order for you to get head

  203. eventually You will have to be the fit one.

  204. Which means that you will have to step.

  205. An advance on the weak and the marginalized, the oppressed.

  206. And it flies in the face of what Jesus says in Mark chapter 10,

    Mark 10 chapter mention

  207. if you're a Jesus person, this is where we draw our inspiration

  208. from Jesus called them together. And said, you know, that those

  209. who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles, Lord it over them

  210. and their High officials exercise authority over them.

  211. Not so with you. Jesus people instead, whoever

  212. wants to become great. Among you must be your servant

  213. and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all and you're

  214. going well that would be really hard for me Jesus because I'm a

  215. pretty big deal. We'll check out what he says.

  216. Let's keep going for even. Oh Even Jesus, the son of man

  217. did not come to be served, but to serve and give his life as a

  218. ransom for many Christian. He flies in the face of survival

  219. of the fittest. It's the fittest loving the

  220. least. Now some of you might be going.

  221. Okay, that's cool but I'm not an atheist fine.

  222. You heard some people? Talk are you've heard maybe

  223. heard some people talk about reincarnation that after you die

  224. you come back as something else. And if you are really bad, you

  225. know, you come back as a as a, you know, a fat white guy who

  226. doesn't have a lot of money and if you were really, really bad.

  227. You come back as lettuce, which is why, you know, I don't eat

  228. salad. And if you were pretty decent,

  229. if you did a pretty good job, you come back as an attractive

  230. wealthy person. If you were fantastic, you come

  231. back as somebody who's, you know, famous and popular and

  232. Steve Job. That's what happens.

  233. The problem is the Bible flies in the face of that because you

  234. don't just keep dying over and over again and coming back to

  235. life and never realizing it, which is the general thrust of

  236. reincarnations because Look, what Jesus says, remember, Jesus

  237. Matthew chapter 25, then they will go away to Eternal

    Matthew 25 chapter mention

  238. punishment but the righteous to eternal life when it's over.

  239. There's no do-overs. Your destination is cemented,

  240. eternally. You don't get a second chance.

  241. Since you don't get a do-over you don't get to try it out all

  242. over again. When you die, you're done.

  243. That's what Jesus says. There's some who believe in

  244. universalism and man all roads lead to Heaven.

  245. Come on, bro. They usually have like a hemp

  246. sticker somewhere on their car. I get it.

  247. Peace man, everybody I get it man.

  248. It sounds fun, fantastic everybody.

  249. There's no right? There's no wrong man.

  250. I get it. I'm not even being mean they

  251. seem like super cool. People wouldn't let him watch my

  252. kids but they sound like they'd be a lot of fun.

  253. And they just think that everybody eventually ends up in

  254. the same place, the problem with that, this pesky guy named,

  255. Jesus, look what he says for God.

  256. So loved the world that he gave his one and only son that

  257. whoever believes in him, it's not whoever believes I believe

  258. in a heaven, I believe in a better place.

  259. That's not what gets you there? Whoever believes in him, him,

  260. being Jesus, shall not perish. But have eternal life.

  261. Look what it says in Matthew chapter 7, enter through the

    Matthew 7 chapter mention

  262. narrow gate for wide is the gate and Broad is the road that leads

  263. to destruction and many enter through.

  264. It universalism really wide Road.

  265. Everybody gets their really wide gate.

  266. Everything there's room for everybody here no matter where

  267. you're at no matter what you think.

  268. Come on in Jesus is saying no because that road leads to

  269. destruction but small is the gate and narrow is the road that

  270. leads to life. Only a few find it.

  271. The narrow road is only as wide as Jesus Christ, unless you go

  272. through him, you're not getting in.

  273. Now, there's some people out there, who believe in

  274. Annihilation ilysm. You might be going Clayton, we

  275. don't believe any of these things, but you'd be surprised

  276. to show up. This is a belief that

  277. unbelievers will not experience eternity in Hell suffering, but

  278. they will just be extinguished. Like remember when you got

  279. grounded your parents like you're getting grounded for a

  280. week and if you're a really bad, you're grounded for two weeks.

  281. The functionally when you die God, just grounds you.

  282. And he just burns you inhale for a little bit until you've burned

  283. up enough and then he extinguishes you and you

  284. disappear. And after a long period of

  285. Torment there just no more. And they argue that the word

  286. Eternal in scripture should be translated a Jory on.

  287. That mean you're just gonna you're just gonna be in hell for

  288. a little bit and then it'll be over the huge problem with that

  289. is the Bible. The reason why there's a huge

  290. problem is because when the Bible talks about hell, it talks

  291. about day and night forever and ever already showed you this

  292. verse, but let's look at it again, Matthew chapter 25, then

    Matthew 25 chapter mention

  293. they will go away to Eternal punishment.

  294. But the righteous to eternal life, the word that they want to

  295. translate a jury on, which is a perfect fought, which is a fine

  296. interpretation, you can't go. It's just a short period of time

  297. for Eternal punishment but it's forever and ever for those.

  298. We're going to eternal life. If this is temporary, then this

  299. is temporary. Doesn't make sense, no matter

  300. how you measure it. Heaven would only end up being

  301. for a short period of time. Some of you may have grown up in

  302. a church where you heard about purgatory.

  303. Those who believe in purgatory, believe that you it's a place

  304. where you go to pay for your sins before you go to heaven.

  305. Aside from the fact that nowhere is, this is Purgatory, mentioned

  306. in scripture nor is anything remotely close to it.

  307. Alluded to in scripture the main text that they use is First

    1 Corinthians 3 chapter mention

  308. Corinthians. Chapter 3 verses starting with

  309. verse 12. This is, this is the Purgatory

  310. verse in the Bible. If anyone Builds on this

  311. Foundation using gold silver, costly Stones, wood, hay or

  312. straw. Their work will be shown for

  313. what it is because the day will bring it to light, it will be

  314. Old with fire and the fire will test the quality of each

  315. person's work. If what has been built survives,

  316. the Builder will receive a reward.

  317. If it is burned up, this is the Purgatory.

  318. Verse verse 15, the Builder will suffer loss, but yet will be

  319. saved, even though only as one escaping through the flames.

  320. This is the Purgatory verse in the Bible that you be saved, but

  321. only is one escaping through the Flames.

  322. However, the context of this verse is about how we build our

  323. faith and the quality of the work of our faith.

  324. In other words, what is built on the solid foundation of Jesus

  325. Christ, the solid rock of him. That quality material, it will

  326. last, but that which is of poor quality and poor material will

  327. be burned up. You're going Clayton, you have

  328. not made sense yet. Keep going.

  329. Here's what he's saying. Our faith will be intact, but

  330. the flaws in our theology, the shortcomings of our belief

  331. system. The errors in our walk will be

  332. consumed by the fire. It is not the believer that

  333. passes through the fire but our works.

  334. Furthermore to believe in purgatory is a wretched assault

  335. on the work of Jesus Christ in the very same book that I just

  336. read from. Paul is writing.

  337. Look what he says in chapter 15 for what I received.

  338. I passed on to you as of first importance that Christ died for

  339. our sins, according to the scriptures that he was buried

  340. and that he was raised on the third day, according to the

  341. scriptures. That Christ died for our sins.

  342. If Christ died for our sins. Then what are you paying for in

  343. purgatory? What's your functionally saying

  344. is that Jesus could afford the bill but he couldn't afford the

  345. tip. That somehow he needs you at the

  346. end of your life to make up the difference.

  347. That's wrong. We sing about the death of

  348. Jesus, on the cross. We sing songs, like Jesus, Paid

  349. It All. Furthermore, we have these words

  350. of Paul in Colossians, same author, but now he has

  351. reconciled You by Christ's physical body through death to

  352. present you, holy in God's sight without blemish and free from

  353. accusation, if you continue in, your faith, established and firm

  354. and do not move from The Hope held out in the gospel.

  355. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been

  356. proclaimed to every creature under heaven.

  357. And of which I Paul have become a servant nowhere in that burst

  358. does. It talk about you?

  359. Making you, holy in God's sight. The thrust of the Gospel message

  360. is that Jesus made us right with God?

  361. It is not of our own. It's something that he did on

  362. our behalf. Okay.

  363. So what's hell? You have four more minutes?

  364. Hang on and we get to the good stuff.

  365. So what is hell? Hell is described all throughout

  366. scripture. As a place of eternal torment,

  367. unquenchable fire. It's a place where the worm does

  368. not die, where people gnashed their teeth in anguish and

  369. regret. It is a place where people go

  370. and they do not return, even to warn loved ones.

  371. It is a place of outer Darkness. One of the descriptions that

  372. Jesus uses is that of gehenna, we're going to be going to

  373. Israel late next year. And if you go, you'll get to be

  374. you'll get to see it. It was This place on the

  375. outskirts of the city of Jerusalem that had previously

  376. been used for child sacrifice and it was deemed as an

  377. uninhabitable place and so, because of the Steep edges on

  378. the walls of Jerusalem, it became the trash dump.

  379. And people would go to the edge of the city walls and they would

  380. dump their trash over the top and it would fall down and they

  381. take dead bodies and it would fall down.

  382. And then they would keep the fires burning to keep the smell

  383. down and to keep the bacteria and the disease from spreading

  384. and all day long. Smoke rose out of gehenna.

  385. And when Jesus got talking about hell, he says that's what it's

  386. like. It's a place where God is absent

  387. and all things God are absent. I know, I know it's fun.

  388. Sometimes we're talking about oh yeah, you know, I'm going to

  389. hell and I'm just going to keep on partying when I get there.

  390. I'm just going to keep on Dancing.

  391. Keep on having sex keep on partying.

  392. When I'm in hell, hear me sex? And music are both gifts from

  393. God. They won't be there.

  394. I know it's catchy to, like, when someone dies at their

  395. funeral to play, you know, if you get to heaven, give Heaven a

  396. little hell? No, no.

  397. The one thing you won't find in heaven.

  398. There's a little bit of hell. I want to be very clear.

  399. So what will happen? Some of you might be wondering,

  400. will who goes to hell? You've obviously said it's a

  401. place. We don't want to go.

  402. So who goes there? Well John 14:6 tells us who goes

    John 14:6

  403. there. Jesus answered.

  404. I am the way and the truth and the life.

  405. No one comes to the father, except through me.

  406. There's only one of two places for you to go.

  407. You can either go to be with the Father, which is what heaven is,

  408. or you can choose to not go to the father and the absence of

  409. the father, we've already established.

  410. This is hell. And the only way to get to the

  411. father is through the son, Jesus Christ, and there might be some

  412. of you going. Well I don't know about that

  413. hear me. Unless Jesus is the source, the

  414. foundation, the power of your faith and of your salvation, if

  415. you are not going to heaven, That means woke.

  416. Leftist ideology, won't get you there.

  417. It means, conservative nationalism won't get you to

  418. heaven. You won't get in for being a

  419. republican. You won't get in for being a

  420. Democrat. It means that if you're an

  421. atheist, a Hindu, a Muslim, a Buddhist, a Mormon, your life is

  422. in peril. There's some of you who are

  423. going. Whoa, I thought I like this

  424. place. Hear me.

  425. You might be on Clayton. We, we really do.

  426. We like this church, but that does not seem fair.

  427. I couldn't agree with you more. It's not fair.

  428. It's not fair at all. However, I want to say a couple

  429. things to you regarding the fairness of God, one, we live in

  430. a world that has been so covered in the grace of God, that we can

  431. forget his Justice. We live in a world that has been

  432. so infused with his Mercy that we can lose sight of his

  433. holiness. So for those of you who be gone,

  434. this does not sound fair. This does not sound like a god

  435. that I can get behind. Let me, let me speak to that.

  436. First thing I would say to you is that it's not about fair and

  437. then he's not being closed-minded and he's not being

  438. exclusionary. When we say that Jesus is the

  439. only way to the father. What we're actually saying is

  440. Jesus is the only one who He's the only one who he's, the only

  441. one who left heaven and came to Earth.

  442. He's the only one who lived a perfect life.

  443. He's the only one who paid the ultimate price on the cross.

  444. He's the only one who perfectly demonstrated the love of God.

  445. He's the only one who destroyed the works of the Devil.

  446. He's the only one who healed this with his wounds.

  447. He's the only one who had the iniquity of us all placed on his

  448. shoulders. He's the only one who saves

  449. because he's the only one who could he's the only Who did he's

  450. the only one who died in my place.

  451. He's the only one who was buried and three days later rose from

  452. the dead. He's the only one who ascended

  453. to the father full of grace and mercy, when we say that Jesus is

  454. the only way to the father. It's because Jesus is the only

  455. one who saves. That's it.

  456. We're not saying that he's hateful.

  457. We're not saying that he's exclusionary.

  458. He's saying I'm the Lifeboat and there's not another one.

  459. I'm the only boat in these Waters, reaching out his hand

  460. asking. People do you want to be saved?

  461. It's not exclusionary. I'm just the only one here.

  462. Second thing. We don't want Fair.

  463. Right? If you believe In fairness,

  464. you're a bad parent. Do you know this in your heart

  465. when your kids come to you? That's not fair.

  466. Do you go? You're brilliant.

  467. Oh, I know you've got some catchy parenting tip.

  468. Well, life's not fair. Sometimes kid question.

  469. If things aren't fair in your house, raise your hand.

  470. Yeah, that's what I thought. Life's not fair.

  471. Because we only want fair when we stand to benefit.

  472. We don't want fair when we stand to lose.

  473. We want fair when it's in our favor.

  474. But we don't want fair. When it's time to pick up the

  475. tab. Husbands.

  476. When your father-in-law when you were dating, the, his daughter

  477. took you out for a meal and he offered to buy.

  478. Did you go? That's not fair.

  479. You're broke. But said Thank God.

  480. That's what you did when, when your kids come up to you and go.

  481. That's not fair. It's only when you're talking

  482. about who gets to watch what on the TV and who gets to play for

  483. how long on the gaming console. But when the bill show up at the

  484. house, no one's going, hey, that's not fair.

  485. I didn't get to pay for the car this month.

  486. No. Did that right there?

  487. That's your kids aren't showing up dead, Mom.

  488. It's not fair that you guys work so hard to pay for this house.

  489. We want to get jobs to never heard it.

  490. Not once in my entire life, have they gone to the store and said,

  491. oh my goodness. These groceries are getting

  492. expensive. Can we help out?

  493. Right. Imagine going home and send, you

  494. know what kids it's been pretty unfair around here.

  495. Your mom's been doing a Lion's Share of the laundry and I've

  496. been doing a Lion's Share of the yard working.

  497. We've been doing it for his by. We can count your entire

  498. stinking life. So we're going to take the next

  499. 12 years of your life, and we're going to kick back.

  500. Christians. We don't want fair when it comes

  501. to the goodness of God. Because there's only one thing

  502. you and I deserve in a fair world and it's hell.

  503. When we look at God's saving work, the question that doesn't

  504. come to our mind. Is not.

  505. How does anybody end up in? Hell, what blows our mind is

  506. that anybody shows up in heaven, How could, how could you?

  507. And I have ever get there. Because every single one of us,

  508. myself included, we deserve hell.

  509. And we know this internally because when I sin, I sin

  510. against an eternally, perfect God.

  511. And so, do you and Justice is always determined by the offense

  512. of the person. Let me explain if I come to your

  513. neighborhood tonight and I kill all the Flies.

  514. You know. You guys are going to do put

  515. palm branches in ago. This guy rocks.

  516. If I kill all the mosquitoes. Pete is not going to be walking

  517. down your neighborhood going. This guy's got to be stopped.

  518. He's a monster. He kills animals, right?

  519. There's a difference between me killing all the Flies and

  520. mosquitoes and me killing all the neighborhood, dogs.

  521. That'll raise some Flags, right? There's a difference between

  522. speeding on the highway and speeding in a school zone.

  523. because there's a difference between an offense against

  524. 18-wheelers and small children at play, there's a difference

  525. between killing the neighborhood cat, and taking the life of a

  526. human being and our justice system is built on who the

  527. offense is against So what do you think?

  528. You and I should get when our sin is an offense against a holy

  529. and an eternal God. What would seem fit?

  530. Eternal. Punishment.

  531. It's when we understand the reality of God's holiness and

  532. Perfection and the sinfulness of Our Lives that we are left to

  533. ponder this question. How does God allow anybody into

  534. heaven? And I'm going to tell you.

  535. Second Corinthians, five verse 21.

  536. This is how he does. It, God made him Jesus who had

  537. no sin to be sin for me. And you so that in Jesus, we

  538. might become the righteousness of God.

  539. How do I get into heaven? How do you get into heaven?

  540. He took all of your sin, all of your iniquity and he laid it on

  541. Jesus. And in that moment, Jesus became

  542. my sin and I became his righteousness.

  543. When God set out to solve the problem of hell, he did it

  544. through the work of Jesus. Think of all the sins that you

  545. could ever. Think of that you've committed,

  546. they were laid on Jesus. Jesus became an adulterer, a

  547. cheater, a liar, a coveter, a Steeler, a murderer, a molester,

  548. a pedophile. He became all of those things.

  549. So you and I could be the righteousness of Jesus, we

  550. became the 33 year old man who lived a perfect and sinless.

  551. Life, we became his righteousness and he became our

  552. guilt. He became our shame, he took up

  553. our penalty, we get the mercy of Jesus and he gets our mess.

  554. We get the good works of Jesus and he gets our sins, we get the

  555. perfect life of Jesus and Jesus gets pierced, we get the

  556. righteousness and he gets the unrighteousness.

  557. Don't ever doubt the love of God, because look what it says

  558. in 2nd Peter. The Lord is not slow, in keeping

  559. his promise as some understand slowness.

  560. Instead, he is patient with you not wanting anyone to perish,

  561. but everyone to come to repentance.

  562. That's the desire of Jesus. That's the desire of God that

  563. you and I would come into fellowship with him.

  564. We're hell no longer becomes an issue because you are in right

  565. standing because of Jesus. So what should you and I do?

  566. Well, the Bible's really clear when you come to the knowledge

  567. of what Jesus Christ did for you on the cross, you're supposed to

  568. do three things. You're supposed to believe that

  569. what Jesus said, and what Jesus did he did and he is second

  570. thing you repent. You recognize, hey, I got to

  571. stop living for me. I got to start living for him.

  572. I'm done being in charge. You're in charge and then you

  573. get Baptized, you make him your lord and savior.

  574. Lord means you live for him. Now, you're no longer in charge

  575. and some of you you might be going.

  576. But Clayton, when it comes to get baptized, what do you mean

  577. by that? I mean that you symbolize what

  578. Jesus Christ did on the cross, you are buried in your sins and

  579. you are raised to New Life in him and you might be going.

  580. But Clayton, I was baptized as a baby.

  581. That's great, but that's nowhere in scripture.

  582. You might be going every time. Baptisms talked about in

  583. scripture. It's your decision.

  584. You don't get saved because your parents wanted you to be a

  585. believer. That was a wet baby dedication.

  586. That's what it was. Listen if baptism against

  587. somebody's will worked. What should we do today?

  588. We should get a bunch of people drop drunk, take him out to the

  589. Mississippi, dip them and bring them back up and go see you in

  590. heaven, man. Like what happened?

  591. I well, you just got dumped. You got baptized right, okay?

  592. That clip is going to live in the wrong ways and I apologize

  593. for that. Okay, they look at me like I

  594. knew that church was jacked up. Listen.

  595. Listen, if you can't take a person against their will and

  596. baptize them in that count, how can you take a baby and do the

  597. same? Now, listen, there's nothing

  598. wrong with. That means your parents loved.

  599. You means that they wanted you to grow up in church, and means

  600. that they wanted you to grow up and make a decision to follow

  601. Jesus Christ, on your own accord.

  602. And what better way to fulfill that prayer then for you to do

  603. it yourself and some of you might be going to Clayton, I've

  604. been following Jesus and coming to this church, for a really

  605. long time. And if I get baptized, people

  606. are gonna be like what's wrong with that person that they took.

  607. So long, listen, this church will never get frustrated at

  608. people being obedient never will cheer just as loud.

  609. You might be going to clean. Its give me a little awkward

  610. because I mean I've been a small group leader, I've served at

  611. this church. Listen, this church will never

  612. get frustrated at people being obedient, because guess what?

  613. I'm going to learn some about Jesus next week where I screwed

  614. up. And I bet you want me to be a

  615. person who goes, I got to fix it.

  616. That's what happens. Is.

  617. We continue to follow? Jesus.

  618. Hear me. Those of you who are already

  619. have a faith, I want you to pay attention to me.

  620. Me, this is why we give, this is why we serve, this is why we

  621. lead life groups. And D groups is because we see

  622. our lives, and our hardships, and our struggles and our

  623. opportunities. As ways.

  624. To point people to the goodness of God, and point them to the

  625. realities of heaven and turn them away from the possibility

  626. of Hell Christians. What would happen if you saw

  627. your life in between these two Cosmic realities Heaven and

  628. Hell, could you deal with people being harmed?

  629. Do you if you knew that the way you operated might show them a

  630. little Jesus and it might lure them into his ways.

  631. What if you were to change the way you posted because you

  632. wanted to make sure you always had an opportunity to point

  633. people to Jesus and said of turn them away and if you turn them

  634. away, there's going to be less people to show them the ways of

  635. Jesus. What if we saw our hardships and

  636. our struggles as opportunities, to reflect the goodness of God,

  637. and how we endured that hardship as an opportunity.

  638. T to point people to Jesus, what we should be the kind of people

  639. that Overlook offenses in order to make inroads to point people.

  640. To Jesus. Christian should be so full of

  641. grace. So full of Mercy, because we

  642. have a deep longing desire to turn people away from hell and

  643. point them to Jesus, who's the only one who can save and I hope

  644. you will join me in that mission.

  645. We're moving to a time of decision.

  646. I went long. Okay, I shave 25 minutes, out of

  647. my sermon and I'm still long, so pay attention.

  648. We're going quick. I want you to just say the word

  649. win, say it a little bit louder. Okay?

  650. If you were to come to me with marriage counseling, and you'd

  651. like a, we've been getting in a fight, but he said he was sorry,

  652. I would say. When did he say he was sorry.

  653. Why? After he got caught, if you were

  654. to come to me and you were to be hanging out with me and you were

  655. to say, you know, we've been having problems with our kids

  656. and we had a fight and a big deal and but he said he was

  657. sorry and I would say will win. Well after I went to him and I

  658. said I was sorry. That's when my kids said that

  659. they were sorry. Timing matters.

  660. Give me the word one more time. So when did God move on your

  661. behalf? We live in a world where it's

  662. always after. I'll be good to my wife, after

  663. she's good to me. I'll be work hard for my boss

  664. after. He pays me.

  665. What I'm worth. We live in an after culture, but

  666. when did Jesus move on your behalf?

  667. When did he do it? That would be interesting.

  668. Where does this scripture talk about?

  669. When God moved on my behalf, you better believe.

  670. It does top 5. Favorite verses of the Bible.

  671. Get the tattoo on your neck, for all I care.

  672. Romans 5:8 while. That's when he moved.

    Romans 5:8

  673. Not after. While Romans 5:8 while we were

    Romans 5:8

  674. still Sinners. When did he move?

  675. He moved while. You keep thinking, gotta love me

  676. after I get baptized you keep thinking, God will love me after

  677. I get my life, right? You think God will love you

  678. after you come to church enough times, you think God will love

  679. her after. You serve enough after you sing

  680. enough songs after you give enough money but the Bible is

  681. clear while we were still Sinners. when you were cheating

  682. on your wife, God demonstrates, his love for us in this while.

  683. When you're beating somebody. Stealing from somebody robbing

  684. somebody bullying. Somebody posted on somebody

  685. while we were still sinners. That's when he moved.

  686. He moved in your behalf. Wow, you were doing an assault

  687. against his character. he moved while you were sinning against

  688. him, while you were racking up a bill not after He saw you and

  689. you were worth it. God was at his best when you

  690. were at your worst. When did he move?

  691. He moved Wild. And if you're here today, and

  692. you're watching online, And you've never started an intimate

  693. personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

  694. Don't put it off. It's just a few moments.

  695. Everybody's going to stand around you for watching online.

  696. There's maybe some that's going to pop up in the chat.

  697. There's any people over here that would love an opportunity

  698. to talk with you about starting an intimate personal

  699. relationship with Jesus Christ. There's some of you, you've

  700. never been baptized, there's some of you that may have been

  701. sprinkled, but never have been immersed, as the Bible teaches.

  702. Listen, we want to celebrate with, you will stay until we're

  703. done. If you're going, you know what

  704. he's talking about me. It's not Clayton talking to you.

  705. That is the spirit of God, drawing his children back home.

  706. and our church will celebrate that Now, you're already here

  707. and you're a Jesus follower. I want us to live our lives in

  708. light of these two realities. There is a very real hell and

  709. there is a very real heaven and how we live our lives changes.

  710. The population of both at the beginning of the year, when I

  711. cast a vision for this church, I said I want us to make this

  712. region the hardest place on planet Earth to get to Hell

  713. from. And the way we give and serve

  714. and love and lead and handle offense and hard shift will show

  715. people the love and the power of Jesus Christ.

  716. And maybe some of us need to spend just a little bit of time

  717. on our knees going. God, I have not been a

  718. reflection of you to a watching world and I need some help and

  719. let's just be a church that's real about that stuff.

  720. Okay, stand up and we pray for you.

  721. God, we need you right now in every heart and every life and

  722. ever seen one of our locations, while campus pastors Elena in

  723. the plane got I'm asking that you would move in this church.

  724. Solidify in us a desire to live in light of your truth.

  725. Your And I pray, amen.