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Romans 14 & 15 | Jerry Harris

Crossing Church with Clayton Hentzel

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  1. Well, hello Crossing Church. How are you doing today?

  2. Now, I really appreciate that and but I know a lot of you

  3. aren't telling the truth. That you know, you, you, you put

  4. yourself together, all of our locations.

  5. And you know, I'm so glad that you're here, that you're here in

  6. person. Those of you that are inside and

  7. online, I know that you're not able to be here in person, but

  8. and maybe you know you're still in your pajamas or whatever or

  9. whatever you might be doing. But the fact is, is that we want

  10. to always present something, you know, nice and palatable to

  11. everybody else around us. But in truth, a lot of times we

  12. are not what other people perceive we are that there's

  13. stuff going on inside of our lives and we would just rather

  14. not burden them with that. You know, we would just rather

  15. just kind of hold that quietly inside of ourselves and put a

  16. good face on and. And if people ask us how are you

  17. doing? We'll just say fine, when that's

  18. not the truth, It's kind of how we are, right?

  19. I mean, it would take a long time if you actually wanted to

  20. just, you know, back up the dump truck and let it out, you know,

  21. and just say how you doing? Well, why don't you sit down.

  22. True. Yeah.

  23. I mean, for a lot of us that that's how it is.

  24. And we're in the book of Romans and we are getting into some

  25. real practicality in the latter chapters of the book of Romans,

  26. and I'm in Romans 14 and 15. And it really is a discussion on

  27. people whose faith is weak and people whose faith is strong and

  28. how those two groups of people might interact with one another.

  29. And we're in the the part of the series we entitled noticeable

  30. neighbors like kind of how are you living your life in the

  31. context of the people around you.

  32. And one of the things that we're going to be discussing today is

  33. this idea that or this truth that we're all damaged and we

  34. all are to some extent. We're all damaged and damage is

  35. actually a part of life. And I know that a lot of us are

  36. trying to avoid it. The parents are trying to keep

  37. their kids from having to deal with it.

  38. We're trying to avoid damage. We really can't do it because

  39. we're surrounded by it. And we we aren't always the

  40. victim. Sometimes we're the perpetrator,

  41. you know, because human beings, that's kind of what we do.

  42. We live in a sinful world, and it's a world full of damage, and

  43. we tend to damage each other. Some of the worst damage,

  44. though, happens inside of a context, like you're in right

  45. now is in a church. Because I think that we believe

  46. that this ought to be a safe place, kind of devoid of damage.

  47. Like, you know, we we, we should be able to be more transparent

  48. here. We should be able to be more

  49. real here. We should be able to trust each

  50. other more here. But if you've been a part of a

  51. church for a very long for any time at all, you've probably

  52. experienced some of what we might call church damage or

  53. church hurt. And the reason I know we we tend

  54. to want to like label it as the church, like this.

  55. This church hurt me. But the reality is that churches

  56. are full of people, and the people that fill churches are

  57. damaged people. And when you're in the proximity

  58. of damaged people, it can damage your life because that's just

  59. human nature tends to be what we do, and it might take a lot of

  60. different forms in the church. It might be that you felt

  61. overlooked, maybe you felt taken for granted.

  62. Maybe like in a small group or something, you shared some

  63. stuff. I mean, you risked it, you got

  64. open with some other people and maybe they shared it with other

  65. people and they shouldn't have, and you felt betrayed by that.

  66. Maybe you were stabbed in the back, or maybe you were accused

  67. of something that you didn't do. Maybe it was even more serious

  68. than that. Maybe you experienced something

  69. emotionally abusive or physically abusive and there are

  70. people in churches that have been sexually abused.

  71. Maybe whatever happened to you, you experienced when you were

  72. new in your faith and then it made you go, you know what,

  73. church, that's just like another one of these institutions.

  74. It's just another one of these things that you just can't

  75. trust. This is another club and it

  76. really isn't very hard to get cynical.

  77. And church can be viewed as optional by a lot of people.

  78. Like, why do I even need to trouble myself with that?

  79. I'll just kind of stay back and I'll, I'll, I'll keep a healthy

  80. distance between me and all of whatever's happening in that

  81. place. I've had people come to The

  82. Crossing over the years, share stories with me about how broken

  83. they are when they feel like maybe they can trust me with

  84. that story. And they will talk about their

  85. previous church experience. And I begin to realize just what

  86. a major step of faith it was just to walk through the door of

  87. another church again. Some of these people were some

  88. of the hardest workers in their previous church environment,

  89. some of the most committed people in their previous church.

  90. But now if you find if you can find them at all, they're kind

  91. of in the back in the dark and they kind of want to stay in the

  92. shadows. It's hard to reengage.

  93. Boy, I sure would like to stand up here today and say that all

  94. just goes one way, but it doesn't because I have to tell

  95. you that people at the crossing staff at the crossing, they have

  96. done their fair share of hurting others and driving people away.

  97. And I think it's easy for us to make excuses for our own

  98. behavior or to find fault with people for leaving.

  99. But there is no doubt that we've damaged people too.

  100. You know, some of that damage comes from well meaning

  101. Christians. And what well meaning Christians

  102. are trying to do is maybe educate.

  103. Or we use the term disciple, newer believers, right?

  104. And so this is what the Apostle Paul is beginning to refer to in

  105. Romans chapter 14. Let's let's read it together.

    Romans 14 chapter mention

  106. It says except the one whose faith is weak without quarreling

  107. over disputable matters also stop right there.

  108. How many matters do you ever face that are disputable?

  109. Like all of them? Right.

  110. So should we be quarrelling over disputable matters?

  111. Maybe somebody is pretty new in their faith.

  112. Maybe you've been in your faith a little longer.

  113. Maybe you were kind of raised up in a different context, this

  114. other person, and they're trying to figure something out.

  115. You think you've got it figured out, and so you want to disciple

  116. this person or help this person along.

  117. And you say some things that may be really discouraging when

  118. you're really just trying to help someone else, maybe because

  119. you're inside of a disputable matter.

  120. I think it's something that we all deal with.

  121. And I think there's a real question underneath this.

  122. And the real question is that we're.

  123. Well, maybe it's a The question is, are we are we trying to help

  124. people to become more like Jesus or are we trying to help people

  125. to become more like us? Maybe that's a little tougher

  126. way of putting it. I think sometimes the real truth

  127. isn't just Jesus. It's Jesus and Jesus and my

  128. interpretation of the Bible, Jesus and my choice of worship

  129. style. Jesus and my political leanings.

  130. Jesus and my worldview. Jesus and my group.

  131. Jesus and my culture. Jesus and my color.

  132. Jesus and my education. You get it.

  133. You talk, you, you get the picture.

  134. The point is there is no and there's just Jesus.

  135. And we keep trying to change other people.

  136. But ultimately changing people is what Jesus does.

  137. It's not what we do. We're supposed to be cooperating

  138. with him, not standing in front of him.

  139. We need to let him do his job and not be a detriment to that.

  140. Now. The Apostle Paul in Romans 14

  141. gives examples of this in the Roman churches context when he

  142. talks about faith and he talks about food restrictions in

  143. verses two to four of chapter 14.

  144. Listen to what he says. One person's faith allows them

  145. to eat anything, but another whose faith is week eats only

  146. vegetables, and the one who eats everything must not treat with

  147. contempt the one who does not and the one who does not eat

  148. everything must not judge the one who does, for God has

  149. accepted them. Who are you to judge someone

  150. else's servant to their own master?

  151. A servant stands or falls and they will stand, for the Lord is

  152. able to make them stand. So now we're in the context of

  153. Romans and food restriction was a big deal in the in the Jewish

  154. world and we've already established through the study of

  155. Romans. Hope you're still doing that,

  156. that the Roman church was an established church with with

  157. Gentiles and with Jews, and so they were having to learn how to

  158. get along together when they're coming from very, very different

  159. backgrounds. And of course, if you were

  160. raised Jewish there, there's a whole lot of rules associated

  161. with your faith. It's called eating kosher or

  162. eating pure. Now, Gentiles, they didn't

  163. follow those regulations and they were not required to follow

  164. those regulations. But that didn't stop Jews from

  165. looking down on Gentiles because of the food they ate.

  166. And it was a big deal to them and it was causing a lot of

  167. problems. How do we, how do we connect

  168. that to our world today? Well, I'm speaking from Quincy.

  169. And in many ways, Quincy is a very Catholic community, right?

  170. There's 8 parishes in Quincy and I I I don't know about like all

  171. the rest of the other ten locations but definitely here

  172. that's a reality. And the story goes of a of a

  173. Jewish man that moved into a new community and it was a

  174. predominantly Catholic community and and so and all of his

  175. neighbors were were Catholics. And so on Friday, one of the

  176. things that this Jewish man loved to do was cook a nice

  177. steak on the grill. And so every evening Sky was out

  178. there and he's cooking a steak on the grill.

  179. And all of these Catholics that were pretty hardcore Catholics

  180. were taught that they could only eat fish on Friday.

  181. And so here comes this aroma wafting over the back fence, and

  182. it's just driving all of his neighbors crazy.

  183. And every single Friday night, this guy is cooking a nice juicy

  184. steak on his grill. And eventually they just can't

  185. take it anymore until they have an HOA meeting.

  186. I mean, they get the neighbors together, you know, all the the

  187. Catholic neighbors, they go, what are we going to do?

  188. This is like, this isn't making it impossible.

  189. I mean, you know, here I am, I'm trying to eat my fish.

  190. I'm smelling. This is killing me.

  191. And so they're talking about it, and they decide, you know, what

  192. we got to do? Let's convert this Jewish guy to

  193. Catholicism. That's what we'll do.

  194. And so they started ganging up on him as neighbors, like, like,

  195. you know, encouraging him and talking to him and working on

  196. him. And over a period of months, you

  197. know, they started to break this guy down.

  198. And before long they had him to the place where he was ready to

  199. convert from Judaism to Catholicism.

  200. So they took him to their to their church.

  201. It took him before the priest. And I don't know what it is that

  202. the priest has. It has the water in it, you

  203. know, like the holy what? What is that thing called?

  204. I don't know what that thing's called anyway.

  205. You know, there's a sprinkler thing.

  206. That's the technical term. Anyway.

  207. It's so the the Jewish man comes there and and he gets down on

  208. his knees and the priest standing over him and he's

  209. sprinkling the holy water on him and he goes born at you, raise

  210. the Jew now Catholic and all of the neighbors went yes, that's

  211. it. Solve that problem.

  212. Next Friday, here comes that smell, the smell of a nice steak

  213. cooking on that guy's grill. And they go, we've got him now.

  214. And they all join up in the street and they head over to his

  215. house. They walk into his backyard and

  216. there he is over the grill with his little water bottle.

  217. And he's going born a cow, raised a cow, now a fish.

  218. Brothers and sisters do not determine who their parents are,

  219. even though a lot of you, especially the younger ones,

  220. your older brothers and sisters try to convince you that you

  221. know who your parents were and weren't.

  222. And what does the word accept mean when Paul uses it?

  223. It means not to reject. It means not to ignore.

  224. It means not to treat someone else as second class.

  225. Acceptance is a basic recognition of family.

  226. It's understanding not only who we are, but who's we are.

  227. That it isn't us who determines our siblings in Christ.

  228. It's Christ that's determined by the parent.

  229. We don't have to agree, but when we disagree, we need to disagree

  230. in a very agreeable way. Years ago when I lived in

  231. Indiana and our children were little, we were downtown.

  232. And there's a famous deli downtown called Shapiro's in

  233. Indiana, Indianapolis. And Allison is trying to manage

  234. these children, toddlers at the time, and it's hard to do that

  235. and at the same time order. So she's not just ordering for

  236. herself, she's also ordering for them.

  237. And this is one of those places where I kind of step back and

  238. let her do that, right? Or thankful that she does do

  239. that. And so she's kind of going fast

  240. at Shapiro's. And so she goes for one of the

  241. kids. She says like a ham sandwich.

  242. Shapiro's is a deli. It's a Jewish deli.

  243. Are you? Is it too early in the morning?

  244. They don't serve ham. Now, the person behind the

  245. counter could have gotten frustrated by that, but they

  246. could see that there was a young mom here dealing with kids and a

  247. dad. And I I remember that moment.

  248. I looked at her and I went, Oh my gosh, and and the guy behind

  249. the counter said, hey, wouldn't you like some nice pastrami?

  250. I mean, he didn't make a big deal out of it.

  251. He didn't say, Did you not understand that this is a Jewish

  252. delicatessen and we don't serve ham?

  253. That ham is not kosher meat? He didn't scold her, give her a

  254. hard time. He just said something nice

  255. back. If we're going to disagree, we

  256. need to disagree in agreeable way.

  257. All goes on to talk about how in Jewish culture, one day is more

  258. important to another. And of course that's a core

  259. value. In the Old Testament covenant

  260. law between God and the Jews, part of the 10 commandments was

  261. the 4th commandment, which was remember the Sabbath day to keep

  262. it holy. But Gentiles were not a part of

  263. that covenant law. And in the New Testament, when

  264. we see the church established, you see this movement from the

  265. Sabbath day, which was a Saturday.

  266. And by the way, it wasn't a Saturday the way you understand

  267. or I understand a Saturday because a Jewish Saturday begins

  268. on our Friday at 6:00 PM and it goes from Saturday to 6:00 PM.

  269. But that would be the way that the Jewish people in the Church

  270. of Rome would understand it. But Gentiles didn't feel that

  271. way. And when the church was

  272. instituted and acts, two people began to worship the Lord on

  273. Sunday, the first day of the week, and they called it the

  274. Lord's day. So we we see this movement from

  275. the Sabbath, the Saturday to the Sunday.

  276. Now that would have sent a shockwave through the Jewish

  277. culture at that time. Then he talks about things like

  278. eating meat or abstaining from meat and how some people would

  279. only eat vegetables. Now if you go into First

    1 Corinthians 8 chapter mention

  280. Corinthians chapter 8, it'll get deeper into this, but this is

  281. kind of culturally what would happen anytime you would go to a

  282. butcher shop to buy meat. During this era, all animals

  283. that were slaughtered were taken through like a tunnel and they

  284. were passed underneath an idol. So all of the animals that were

  285. slaughtered, that were killed and then butchered technically

  286. had been offered to An idol was kind of A2 for one, right?

  287. So, you know, they were trying to get credit from their false

  288. gods about the sacrifice of an animal even though they were

  289. going to butcher it for food. Well, there were some people

  290. that were new in their faith that were saying no, no, no,

  291. nothing. Unclean's going to enter my

  292. mouth. This was offered to an idol.

  293. I won't eat it. So they would only eat

  294. vegetables. And other people would say, come

  295. on, the fact that people are doing whatever they're doing

  296. with that animal as far as passing it under an Isles, no

  297. big deal. All this meat is clean.

  298. God's made it clean. They would argue about that.

  299. And you can see how there would be divisions in the church and

  300. difficulty and mean spirited talk and people would get

  301. frustrated. They would step away from it

  302. because of what was going on, right?

  303. And you might think to yourself, that would not happen today.

  304. We wouldn't do that in a church today.

  305. Come on, you know what I've noticed?

  306. I don't know about this and all the other our other communities

  307. been in Quincy. Halloween is a pretty big deal.

  308. I mean, some people, like, go crazy, like with their yards and

  309. everything, right? They just go nuts to celebrate

  310. Halloween. But there are some people, well

  311. meaning Christians, that are like, That is the devil's

  312. holiday and no one should ever celebrate Halloween because

  313. you're glorifying the devil. For many years my wife ran the

  314. preschool in here in Quincy and we did a Halloween alternative

  315. for preschoolers. It was called Noah's Ark Park

  316. and kids would dress up as animals to go on the ark.

  317. But there were some well meaning Christians tending to disciple

  318. others. That said, how dare you dress

  319. little children up as animals for Noah's Ark Park because

  320. you're trying to give them an alternative to Halloween cause

  321. it's really just Halloween you pagans.

  322. Now you can see how some people by faith are saying we should

  323. never do anything called Halloween.

  324. Other people by faith, are saying it's not a big deal.

  325. And there's even these positive ways that we can do this.

  326. Would you call that a disputable matter?

  327. Sure, certainly I would, because we all have our opinions.

  328. But our opinions should never be more important to us than the

  329. people that Jesus died for. For goodness sake, look at

  330. verses 7 to 10, it says. For none of us lives for

  331. ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone.

  332. If we live, we live for the Lord.

  333. If we die, we die for the Lord. So whether we live or die, we

  334. belong to the Lord. For this very reason Christ died

  335. and returned to life, that he might be the Lord of both the

  336. dead and the living. You then why do you judge your

  337. brother and sister? Why do you treat them with

  338. contempt? For we will all stand before

  339. God's judgment seat. We have to recognize that it is

  340. not our job to judge or condemn other people.

  341. Leave that to the Lord and you just bring Jesus that not Jesus

  342. and just Jesus to people. Now in our movement of churches

  343. called the Restoration movement there are churches that are

  344. instrumental and there are churches that are non

  345. instrumental. As a matter of fact from this

  346. location where I'm preaching at 48th and main, if you go over to

  347. State Street about 46th and state there is a Church of

  348. Christ. It's a non instrumental Church

  349. of Christ because the people of the non instrumental Church of

  350. Christ do not see instruments being used to worship God.

  351. In the New Testament, they're worshipped in using instruments,

  352. The Old Testament, but not in the New Testaments.

  353. And since the New Testament is silent about the use of

  354. instruments in worship, they don't use instruments and they

  355. sing a cappella. Now they're fine with music in

  356. any other setting, but when it comes to worship, no

  357. instruments, how should we feel about that?

  358. Will? You obviously know how I feel

  359. about it, because you know, we love music and all forms and

  360. instruments. We think that's fine, but what

  361. if I were to invite, and we have before, someone from the non

  362. instrumental Church of Christ to come and speak at the crossing?

  363. What would I do? Would I have an expectation that

  364. they just need to just get over it or would I do something

  365. different? I've literally done this and

  366. I've asked people to come and I I've told them, listen, we will

  367. cover our instruments and we will sing acapella because we

  368. want to honor you. Because whether we have

  369. instruments or don't have instruments doesn't mean

  370. anything compared to who Christ Jesus died for.

  371. And we need to honor each other that way and not get caught up

  372. so much. Indisputable matters because

  373. ultimately we are all going to have to answer to God for this.

  374. That's what that scripture says. Look at verses 12 and 13.

  375. It says so then each of us will give an account of ourselves to

  376. God. Therefore, let us stop passing

  377. judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not

  378. to put any stumbling block or obstacle in the way of a brother

  379. or a sister. That's the main thing.

  380. We're not supposed to forget it. Let's look at another verse, the

  381. 19th verse. It says Let us therefore make

  382. every effort to do what leads to peace and mutual edification.

  383. I wish I could frame that and hand it out to everybody.

  384. Let us do whatever leads to peace and mutual edification.

  385. Edification means to encourage. It means to build up, make

  386. another person feel pretty good about where they are.

  387. So, and it's so. There's two things there, peace

  388. and mutual edification. Here's two questions we should

  389. always ask ourselves before we ever get into a conversation

  390. that is going to devolve into a disputable matter.

  391. Number one, does my part in the conversation lead to peace?

  392. Are the things that I'm saying or the ways that I'm responding?

  393. Doesn't matter if I brought it up or they brought it up.

  394. Is it leading to peace? #2?

  395. Do the things that I contribute to the conversation actually

  396. build the other person up in some way?

  397. I want you to think about before stuff came out of your mouth.

  398. How much different would your life be if before anything came

  399. out of your mouth? You ask yourselves those two

  400. questions and then lived according to them.

  401. Is it contributing to peace? And I am I encouraging the other

  402. person in some way? I would imagine a lot of us

  403. would have a lot less to say. I imagine that a lot of us would

  404. be spending a lot less time on social media and it and and we

  405. would look at our phones and when it got we got our screen

  406. time thing, it would say, well you're really down.

  407. You know it's like yeah, why? It's because of that if those

  408. things are not happening, we need to ask why.

  409. Could it be because we have this Pride issue that we want to be

  410. right, That we just want to be right here?

  411. A couple of weeks ago, I received an e-mail.

  412. Some people had come to me and they had asked me to use my

  413. influence as the publisher of Christian Standard magazine to

  414. promote something. And they were being so nice to

  415. me. And I took them out and we had a

  416. meal together and, you know, was sharing with them.

  417. And then immediately I got emails back.

  418. Just really positive. Boy, I really appreciate your

  419. time. Really appreciate the things you

  420. shared with us. I'm so excited about this.

  421. I'm so excited about that. But as some people do, sometimes

  422. they don't realize that they have other emails to one another

  423. attached to the e-mail that they sent to me.

  424. And the two guys were emailing each other back and forth

  425. talking about me and hadn't realized that they sent that

  426. along, that that was somehow attached.

  427. You know, you'd never do anything like that.

  428. That's never happened to you. So I'm reading this and I'm

  429. like, wow, that. So that's what they think.

  430. That's what they really think. One guy was saying to the other

  431. guy, I, I, I, I'll place a bet that he doesn't call, he doesn't

  432. e-mail us back for two weeks, stuff like that.

  433. I showed it to my wife. She got really upset.

  434. And so there's a part of me that's going and I was working

  435. on this sermon and I went great sermon illustration, but it

  436. doesn't lead to peace or mutual edification Flood go right and

  437. some of you are going are going well that never that's never

  438. happen Anything like that's ever happened to me.

  439. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

  440. Well, maybe it hasn't. Maybe it didn't have an e-mail

  441. issue like that. But maybe to a person's face,

  442. you've said the things you know that they want to hear.

  443. But when you get with somebody else and you talk about that

  444. person, the conversation is very different.

  445. And we're all guilty of that. Look at the 22nd verse.

  446. So whatever you believe about these things, keep between

  447. yourself and God bless. The One is the one who does not

  448. condemn himself by what he approves.

  449. That's some really, really good advice.

  450. Have you ever gotten into it with someone about some petty

  451. thing? And then after the damage is

  452. done, you look back and you say to yourself, it would have been

  453. just better if I would have kept my foolish mouth shut, keeping

  454. some things just between you and God looking.

  455. It's okay if you want to say to God, this person just really

  456. hacks me off. I don't know you.

  457. God can handle that. You keep, you know, you complain

  458. up. It's OK, he'll work through

  459. that. He'll remind you of all the

  460. things that you do right. But this other direction is not

  461. good. This direction from 22 is really

  462. good advice. And the other thing that you see

  463. from this is that Jesus takes it personally when people insult

  464. you because of your faith, it offends you.

  465. When people insult you because your faith, it also offends him.

  466. And you might go, OK, all right, it's nice to have someone stand

  467. up for me. That's a good thing.

  468. But wait, he also takes it personally when you and I talk

  469. down to someone because of some shortcoming they might have.

  470. Or maybe not to someone, but about someone to someone else.

  471. Chapter 15 verses one to three says, we who are strong ought to

  472. bear with the failings of the weak and not to please

  473. ourselves. Each of us should please our

  474. neighbors for their good, to build them up.

  475. For even Jesus, even Christ did not please himself.

  476. But as as it is written, the insults of those who insult you

  477. have fallen on me. Truth is, sometimes we know just

  478. enough about the Bible to hurt people and we need to step back.

  479. And we need to do our best to learn practical ways that we can

  480. walk out our faith and live out our faith without hurting other

  481. people, because that hurt can be profound.

  482. I want to close with this. When I read a story in the

  483. Bible, it's not uncommon for me to want to identify with whoever

  484. is the hero because I want to be that person.

  485. I want to be the one who does the right thing.

  486. Isn't it interesting that so many of us tend to want to

  487. identify with the hero in the story, but when it comes to our

  488. own intimate, personal relationship with Jesus, we have

  489. to understand there's only one hero and it's never us.

  490. Jesus is always the hero of the story, and the glory goes to

  491. him. Doesn't go to us, right?

  492. Well, maybe you're going well, you miss me on that one, Jerry,

  493. Because when I read a story in the Bible, I'd identify with the

  494. victim. Okay.

  495. Maybe you identify with the victim because, you know, we

  496. kind of live in a victim culture.

  497. And so, yeah, this because we're not thinking about maybe being

  498. the good guy. Maybe we're thinking about the

  499. other person being the bad guy and me being recipient of that.

  500. I'm not saying that those things aren't valid, but when you try

  501. to identify with the victim of the story, you're doing the same

  502. thing that I'm doing if I identify with the hero, the

  503. story, Because ultimately there's really only one victim,

  504. and that's been victimized to this level, to to the highest

  505. level, and that's the same person as the hero, the story.

  506. Has there ever been a greater victim than Jesus?

  507. Has there ever been someone treated more unfairly than

  508. Jesus? And so if you want to get up on

  509. the pedestal for hero, maybe you should step out.

  510. Maybe you step off. And if you want to get on the

  511. pedestal for the victim, maybe you should step off.

  512. And maybe all of us together need to look to the one place

  513. where the truth is the one place, the one person who was

  514. the hero of every story, and a person who was victorious, even.

  515. But this kind of victimization truth is we are a collection of

  516. victims and perpetrators. And to be honest, probably

  517. everybody I'm talking to has been both at one time or

  518. another, maybe even now. But Jesus is here, the ultimate

  519. victim and the ultimate hero, and he is here to heal the

  520. victims and to turn the hearts of perpetrators back to him.

  521. If we'll just lean into him today, this place was made to be

  522. a place of healing, a place of burdens, lightning, place of new

  523. life and new perspective. A place where old is laid down

  524. and the new is freely and gratefully received.

  525. Let's be that place we're moving to a time of decision.

  526. Earlier this week, Allison and I were at We sit at the dinner

  527. table and we work there. And Abby, my youngest daughter,

  528. came over with her. One was at preschool, the other

  529. one is younger than that and brought the younger one.

  530. And I'll tell you, these two kids of hers, I love these two

  531. kids so much. They are all boy and they are

  532. like 2 Tasmanian devils. Like if there is something on a

  533. shelf or there is something put away, that is totally a wrong

  534. thing. It needs to be fully displayed

  535. on the floor for all to be able to see and maneuver around.

  536. Sometimes that irritates me. Doesn't really seem to bother my

  537. daughter. She's a great mom with them.

  538. Doesn't seem to bother my wife. So we're sitting there and Abby

  539. and I are talking about some of the different struggles that

  540. we're dealing with, and she's sharing with me.

  541. She's being transparent. I'm trying to share with her and

  542. being transparent. And she said something to me

  543. that kind of hit me. She goes, I'm such a

  544. perfectionist, but she really wasn't talking about how she

  545. viewed others. She was talking about how she

  546. viewed herself. And she always falls short of

  547. what she feels like she ought to be or ought to do.

  548. I don't know if you guys connect with that or not.

  549. And I was trying to think of something I could say to

  550. encourage her. And for some reason, she took

  551. her eyes off of me while we're in this conversation.

  552. Maybe she heard something that her son was doing right next to

  553. her on the other side with Allison, with him bouncing on

  554. the lap, watching train videos. And I saw that, and it occurred

  555. to me, I go, Abby. I know that may be how you feel

  556. and how you think, but you need to understand that when God

  557. looks at you, it's just the same as when you look at Avery.

  558. That's what he sees. He sees you that way, and Avery

  559. comes into this house and he makes all these messes.

  560. It doesn't seem to bother you that much.

  561. It certainly doesn't change the amount of love that God had that

  562. you have for Avery. And it doesn't seem to bother

  563. Allison much. Doesn't really change that level

  564. of love there either. As a matter of fact, you have a

  565. lot of grace for a kid who just turned 2.

  566. And if you know this scripture, and I know she knew this

  567. scripture, if you then, being evil, know how to give good

  568. gifts to your kids, how much more will your Heavenly Father

  569. give the Holy Spirit to those who ask you?

  570. Some of you are here right now, and you're trying to manage this

  571. stuff all by yourself. Trying to carry all your own

  572. load, trying to be tough enough, Pull yourself up by your own

  573. bootstraps, Buck up when maybe you just need to be the little

  574. kid that runs to the parent and needs to feel the nurturing arms

  575. of a Heavenly Father. Encouraging and reassuring.

  576. That's what these steps are for today.

  577. For you to just spend some time with the Lord.

  578. To be reminded that he loves you.

  579. To be reminded how He sees you. And to be reminded that we've

  580. talked about a couple of weeks ago, that he has more grace than

  581. you will ever require for you. Some of you are here today.

  582. You've never come into an intimate, personal relationship

  583. with God. You think you're so tough.

  584. You think you're so strong. I want you to know right now

  585. that you are surrounded by a whole room of weaklings, and the

  586. guy you're listening to is one of the biggest weaklings of all.

  587. And you can let go of that today, and you can let the Lord

  588. Jesus have his way in your life, and it'll be messy.

  589. But what do you think he expects out of an infant?

  590. There's going to be somebody right over there by that

  591. baptistry that would love nothing more.

  592. And just to share with you some of what the next steps could be.

  593. And you could leave this place today completely different than

  594. when you walked in. Here's an opportunity.

  595. Would you stand with me? Let's pray together.

  596. Let's give this moment to the Lord.

  597. In Jesus name, Heavenly Father, I pray take this moment.

  598. It belongs to you anyway. But help it to belong to you as

  599. far as we're concerned, in our hearts.

  600. And if there are hearts right now that are struggling, I pray

  601. Father that we would put down those defenses.

  602. Be transparent before you and let you have your way in Jesus

  603. name. Amen.