Sermon
From Filthy To Filled - Pastor J. D. Howell 4-5-2026
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Amen, un message the Holy Ghost titled from Filthy to Field.
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If you have your Bibles, will you turn with me
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to the Book of Proverbs. May I direct your attention
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to the twenty fifth chapter and the fourth verse. Brother
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Nathaniel Job, chapter number twenty three and verse number ten.
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Brother Jesse one, Peter, chapter number one and verse number seven, Bethea,
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we have had a wonderful resurrection Sunday again. Thank you
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so much for the meals that were prepared today. Everything
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was just outstanding. You're to be commended for all that
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you did. I can tell you did it with excellent
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so for that I'm very thankful. Brother Nathaniel Job, chapter
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number twenty three and verse number ten.
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My brother, but he knoweth the way that I take.
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When he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold. Amen,
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when he hath tried me, I shall come forth as gold.
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When he tries you, how will you come forth? As
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for Job, He'll come forth as gold. But ask for us,
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how will we come out? Brother Jesse one Peter chapter
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number one, verse number seven.
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That the trial of your faith, being much more precious
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than of gold, that perisheth, though it be tried with fire,
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might be found unto praise and honor and glory at
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the appearing of Jesus Christ.
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Tried with fire. Let's stand for the reading of our
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Golden Text. Proverbs chapter number twenty five and verse number four.
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The Bible says, take away the draws from the silver,
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and there shall come forth a vessel for the finer.
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May we pray, Heavenly Father, we love and we praise you.
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We thank you for the opportunity to be in your
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house tonight. We pray that you would anoint this Thy
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servants said of guard at my mouth, and help me
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to say the things you would have me to say,
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nothing more or less. Anointy ears of this thy people,
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that they might hear what the Spirit of God says
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into this church tonight. May these sayings go below the shoulders. Lord,
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I pray that these words, your words, the word of
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this blessed book, the Bible, the Holy Bible, would saturate
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the soul and the spirit go below the shoulders. Lord,
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May we depart this place joyfully and not sorroply in
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Jesus' name. And the church said, Amen, as you're being
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seated reading our golden text again. Proverbs chapter number twenty
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five and verse number four, take away the draws from
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the silver, and there shall come forth a vessel for
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the finer. Our text is found in an Old Testament
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book of the Holy Bible. The Book of Proverbs is
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known as a handbook for people that love the Lord.
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I doubt that anybody of the world would be interested
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at all in taking up the Book of Proverbs. If
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any worldly hide were to take up the Book of Proverbs,
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they would find themselves becoming all the more wiser as
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a result to being a student of this particular book.
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I remember when I first got saved nearly thirty four
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years ago. The good, sweet holy Ghost provided insight and
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instruction to me and set me on a path of
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studying this Bible, specifically this book of the Bible, the
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Book of Proverbs. There was not a day that went
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by that I did not read at least five chapters
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out of this book of the Bible. And I feel
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today that I am wiser because of the study that
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was involved in that particular book of the Bible. Brother
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Dan Little texts me either this morning or last night.
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He said, Pastor, I just want to let you know
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I appreciate you, and I appreciate your wisdom very much.
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I've never asked anybody to declare me to be a
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wise man. I've never felt like I am a wise person.
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I know that children sing the song about the wise
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man building his house upon the rock and the foolish
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man building his house upon the sand. And definitely I
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have felt it of most importance to build my house
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upon the rock Christ Jesus, and to build my house
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upon the foundation of the Word of God, and specifically
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the Book of Proverbs. Because Solomon, a Jew, was the
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wisest man in all of the world, and most Bible
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scholars and theologians feel that he was the wisest man
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to have ever lived. There will never be an equal
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to him in wisdom. And so I know that this
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is a very important nugget that God has brought forth
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unto us. Tonight, I want you to look at it
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one more time. That verse says, take away the draws
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from the silver, and there shall come forth a vessel
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for the finer. So every person that reads the Book
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of Proverbs, they have an opportunity to do more than
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just live and learn as they walk through life.
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They can live life skillfully.
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Every wise man and woman will pick and choose their
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ways and battles. They will pick and choose their ways
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and battles wisely. In all of their getting, they will
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get wisdom. They will find it to be their greatest possession,
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their most prized possession. Once they have it will be
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wisdom and the good news. It is available to us all.
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In all of our getting, we should get wisdom. And
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wisdom is the principal thing. And if any man a
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lack wisdom, he is to request it of the God
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of Solomon, the same one that gave it to Solomon.
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And our good God, which is also the good God
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of Solomon, will give it to all of us liberally,
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and he will not upbraid us. There's plenty of wisdom
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to go around. In fact, in this particular book of
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the Bible, there's enough nuggets of wisdom for every person
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in this building to pick up one on a daily basis,
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and we would never exhaust the supply. So are you
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in the minding business? Are you interested in sifting through
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the filth of this world and mining the nuggets that
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are available and attainable through the word of God. I
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want every wise person in this building to understand that
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sometimes we have to allow the word of God and
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these proverbs to purge.
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Things from our life.
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And Proverbs twenty five and verse number four it reads again,
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take away the draws from the silver, and there shall
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come forth a vessel for the finer. How many of
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y'all have ever cleaned out a cluttered house or a barn?
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A lot of you have.
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There's four people in this building right now who have
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experienced this very recently, a lot of you know. I
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own the business Merit Construction Services, and within that business
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we provide a still detailing and drafting service, as well
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as a still fabrication service.
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But from time to time we will offer a.
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Landscaping and a grass cutting service. But here lately I
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have been offering a cleanup and clean out service, and
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I have found it to be a most needed service,
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because people just at all are not interested in cleaning
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up and cleaning out things. They are okay with letting
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things accumulate and letting things stack up until things are
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in total disarray. And so brother Samuel's sister Hannah, brother Jonathan,
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and brother Ethan, they were asked by me to clean
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up a place not too far from here, and out
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of respect to me in my business I don't want
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any of them loose lips to provide information concerning the
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location of our customer's property or his cluttered house or
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his cluttered barn at the end of this service, I
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want them to keep that information confidential or between us.
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But it belonged to an old, decorated veteran, and as
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far as we know, he is deceased. And it appeared
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to me that he was a good man, a man
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that served God and his country with honor. I don't
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know that he was a holiness man, but apparently he
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was one that feared God. I've heard Brother Samuel tell
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me some things that this man's son has said that
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has let me know that these people are for God
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and country.
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And so, even though this man was a.
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Decorated war hero, he needed to declutter before he departed
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this life. But he was unwilling to declutter, even though
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he was a highly decorated veteran. And there's something else
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about this man that I know that nobody else in
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this building and knows but his family. Now, Brother Samuel,
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and I can tell you that, without a doubt, this
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man was more than a decorated war he wrote, he
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was more than a veteran. He was a pack rat.
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And it's getting very quiet in here. I feel like
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I'm stepping on some toes unknowingly and unintentionally. You see,
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the house and the barn were packed with stuff, both
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good and bad.
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Help me, brother, Samuel, did you tell me?
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In that barn and house you found rusted tools and
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broken pieces of furniture, and old newspapers and old papers.
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Sister Howell, he found some stuff that had not been
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touched for decades. I'm sure Samuel Howell looked at that
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situation after I sent him there and said, oh boy,
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and then turn his head and looked at his sister,
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sister Hannah Howell edwards as she put her hand over
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her mouth and probably uttered these words, but where or
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where do we begin? But I'm sure that both of
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them knew what I knew, that there had to be
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some good stuff in there somewhere. And I know tonight
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that God has let me know concerning some individuals in
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this building.
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There are some good things inside.
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Of you somewhere. I still believe in you. I still
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believe that God can do a wonderful work in and
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through your life. But someone had to be the first
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one to begin the purification or the cleaning of process
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at some point by the Samuel willing to break the ice.
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And and as he began to sift through the rubbish,
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and he found metals of honor. And after the debris
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was removed, and after this and that were shot to
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the side, and after certain things were hauled to the dumpster,
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and some things.
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Carried off sight sister Howell.
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After all of the clutter had been removed, good stuff,
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for valuable things begin to surface. And some of the
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bad things that had to be removed were literally earned
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full of ashes. And to our surprise, the homeowner had
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no desire what soever to tind to the ashes of
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what seemed to be family members and family pets. Amongst
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those urns ashes were the remains of a little baby.
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You would have thought that this family member, or this
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person that is controlling this situation, that there would have
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been a desire in their heart to properly dispose of
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those remains. But there was no desire at all in
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that man's heart to properly dispose of those remains. He
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told brother Samuel. The talk of the town is this
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that your daddy is a good man, and he is
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an honest man, and he's a holiness preacher man. And
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I want you to commit those earns and those ashes
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to him for his disposal, because he will know the
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proper way to dispose of these asheshop it gets right
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down to this, that man did not want to deal
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with the draw said all. He did not want to
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deal with a clutter, and he was not altogether concerned
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about what might surface through this purification process. But in
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our golden text here tonight, it says, take away the
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drawsom from the silver, and there shall come forth a
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vessel for the fighter. Can I tell you that brother
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Samuel Howell would say tonight without any hesitation, that the glory.
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Was in the ashes and were not too.
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Far away from the urns, and the ashes were for
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folded flags. Old glory was rapped there among the ashes.
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And I feel like somebody in this building tonight needs
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to get the imagery of our golden texts.
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You need to pick sure. A silver smith is in
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his shopping and the fire of purification is burning hot,
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and he is pouring sweat profusely, and he takes a
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piece of ore up in the tongs and inserts them
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into the flames of.
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The herds or the oven.
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And he knows as good as any other smith that
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this is or it is nothing more than a composite
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of both good and bad elements in there, some dirt
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in there, some grit in that ore, are some little pebbles,
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and other things that are undesirable according to our text,
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and the purpose or the mission of the silver smith
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is to produce a vessel that is a very fine vessel.
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And so if we keep that in mind, we will
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know that this silver smith is producing a beautiful silver platter,
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a silver vessel, or a silver goblet of some kind,
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perhaps a serving utensil of silver. He's not interested in
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fashioning a cast iron skillet. He's fashioning a very fine vessel.
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And that is what the Lord is trying to do
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right here amongst the members of the Metal Holiness Church.
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And if you would, he's not wanting to accept the
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cast iron skillet of the Ecumenical Church movement. He is
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looking for a vessel that is meet for the master's use,
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a vessel of the finer. You see, there is a
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difference in a refined vessel or something that is of
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composite nature. In the decorated veterans home there were things
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that brother Samuel felt and did not belong inside of there.
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There were things he felt should not have been in
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a professon Christian's home are born. The silversmith felt the
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same way about the dirt and the grime in this vessel,
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and thus he increased the intensity of the heat. It
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was purpose to take away the draws and to remove
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the chunk. Let me preach to a few of us
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in this building tonight, Let the Holy fire up God
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deal with a drawsom in your life. Allow the Holy
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Ghost of God to remove the grime and the filter
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in your life. If I'm telling you that Christians are
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not sinning habitually, and Christians are not sinning on a
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daily basis, but sometimes as Christians we recognize her that
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there are things in our life and in our relationships
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that do not belong there. I want to name a
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few things that do not belong her in the heart
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of a Christian. Competuousness, envy, jealousy, and maliciousness, bitterness. All
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of these things do not belong her in the heart
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of a child of God. And I wonder if there's
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somebody in this building tonight that would come to the
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altar and pray and ask God to put you into
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the hurt that is holy, and ask God to increase
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the fire, to increase the intensity.
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Of the fire in your life.
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If you want a vessel for the finer, then you
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will allow him to put you in the fire. Young people,
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a lot of times we have to turn loosen of attitudes.
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Sometimes we have to turn loosen of toxic relationships.
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The apostle Peter put it this way.
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Our co text reads like this one Peter won in
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seven that the trial of our faith, being much more
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precious than that of gold, that perishing them, though it
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be tried in the fire, might be found under praising
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and honor and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ.
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So listen, please, Brother Samuel showed up at the warrior's house,
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he showed up at the veteran's house, and you got
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to realize that the Lord is attempting to make an
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appearance at your house tonight. The Lord has come as
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a silver smith, and he is standing outside of your
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heart's door, and he's asking you to allow him to
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come in and to clean up your house. Now, God's
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knocking at your heart's door. It's God that's asking you
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to open and allow him to come in and clean
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up that mess.
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And, for the lack of a.
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Better word, let him fire it up, I said, let
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him fire it up, let him be as a refiner's firing,
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and let a purification process begin. I want to ask
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you here tonight, what are you for? Are you for.
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Putrification or purification?
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I'm preaching a message the Holy Ghost titled from field
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Hunt to Being Filled. It is very basic. We've heard
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preachers say this for years. But if somebody brought a
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crystal clear glass of water in here, you would drink
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from that clear water. You would drink from that clean glass.
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Oh come on now, But if somebody was sertain it
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in the least, if somebody was to contaminate it, if
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somebody was to put something in it that was undesirable,
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that you would not even sip from that glass. Now,
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what makes you think that God would do what you
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wouldn't do? What makes you think that God would call
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you son when you are not a father like? Come?
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What makes you think God we'll accept the word Christian
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when you are not christ like? Come? Listen, Christians, they
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are not temperamenta. Christians do get angry at times, but
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they don't get out of control. Christians might get angry,
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but they seeing not Christians do not christen.
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Christians do not fight.
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In fact, in the Word of God, it says that
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Christians and are not strikers, and they are not brawlers.
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Christians don't go around with that filter radiating from her
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what's supposed to be God's temple. I didn't even think
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of this until now here we are again talk and
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a mouth to cleansing the temple. What is going to
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happen here tonight with you? Will you depart from filter
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and be filled with the sweetness and the goodness of God?
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Or will you hold on to putification versus embracing up purification.
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That's the purpose of this entire service tonight. I've already
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exhorted for about an hour. I'm more out, and some
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of you your minds not even on what the Spirit
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of God is saying to the church. You'll continue to
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struggle tomorrow with only God knows what. You'll continue whole
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on on to the bitterness. You'll continue whole on on
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the jealousy. You'll continue whole on in me. You'll continue
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hold on the line. You'll continue hold on on the hatred,
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you'll continue holding on the coveteousness.
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Can I tell you that that is filth?
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Now? The Bible said in the Book of Job that
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there was a man in the land of us, and
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his name was a Job. According to the Word of God,
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he was perfect and appright, and one that feared God
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and eschewed evil and brother steric. The Bible said that
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man had seven sons and three daughters, in other words,
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ten children to take care of. And this man would
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offer sacrifice on a daily basis, praying for him the
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salvation and the deliberance of his children. He would pray
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for their acceptance of Almighty God. And even though this
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man had this wonderful reputation, that he could be considered
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as an upright man in the sight of God and man,
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that God would the need to try him, that God
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would allow Lucifer to try him, that God would suggest
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that Lucifer try him. Oh, come on, I don't know why.
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Sometimes we have to go through things. Whether it was
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God volering tearing us for the trio or Lucifer suggesting
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that we be the one tried. Whether we're serving God
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for naught or not, has nothing to do with it.
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Sometimes the pride or tried to and sometimes those that are.
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Not so a priud or tried.
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Sometimes it rains on the just and the unjust. But
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in Job's case, how could there be any more purification?
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How could there be any better refinement? How could there
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be any better scenario in here life? But God knew
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Lucifer put him to the test, to put him to
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the fire, don't take his life. But when he has
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been tried, Job will stand up and say, no, he
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slay me? Yet? Will I trust him? The Lord? I'm
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telling you, a man that was already considered to be perfect,
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God was gonna allow her the purification processor to happen
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her in his life. Yes, I'm like mother Samuel to Knight.
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I'm in this house and I'm trying to get it decluttered.
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I'm trying to get it to decontaminated. That I'm trying
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to help two or three of you realize her. You
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can go from being filthy to be in filled with
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the sweetness and the goodness of God. Amen.
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Let him fired up. Let him fired up.
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Hey man, brother Samuel, there's some very valuable things that
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you have discovered, And you know what, we'll keep those
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findings between us. Oh, thank God for that. I'm thankful
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that Brother Samuel and his team begin to take away
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the dross. Sister Whoot, and you would be very familiar
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with the process of making cane syrup. I was privileged
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to have seen my granddaddy make cane syrup and one
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of his best friends, Jimbo, only one time, but I
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saw the old kettle that Poppa and Jimbo had, and
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that old kettle set out in the back of Papa's
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yard for many, many, many years. And for those of
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you that are Florida crackers, you know that process. They
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go into a cane field, whether small large, and they
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put in the sickle and Brother Jesse then they strip
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the stalk that they've just cut down of its leaves
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and then they run it through a grinding process. They
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crush it and they press it. And I've seen them
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use man power before as they begin to crush them
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cane stalks. And you've seen them use donkey power before
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as they turn the wheel of the grindstone. Oh, come on, now,
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you know what their purpose was to press it with power.
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They would press it with power. And that's the problem
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with a lot of preaching today. That's the problem with
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a lot of religion. Today everybody's got an appearance, they've
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got a format, and they've got a fashion.
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But they deny the need of power.
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It doesn't matter if you're running a refinery or distillery
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or whatever it is. You can't do anything without the power.
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You can't do anything without either manual pressure or the
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pressure generated by a piece of equipment. But after the pressing,
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they light a fire and they begin something called the
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purification or purging process, and they burn that syrup and
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they boil that syrup until it gets all all of.
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The impurities removed.
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Doesn't that sound out what was going on in the
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life of job and Job twenty three and ten. But
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he knoweth the way that I take. When he had
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tried me, I shall come forth as gold. This man,
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no doubt felt like he was being pressed. If he
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didn't feel like it, his wife made sure that they
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felt like they were being press And we know not
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only his wife felt like she was being pressed up.
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We know Joe felt like he was being pressed up.
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That is why he was sitting in the ashpow. And
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I want you to know the glory is sitting in
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the ash pole. It is sitting there in humility. It
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is taking it like a man. It is taking it
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with a smile on your face. Has taken it without
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abusing God, has taken it without cursing his name, has
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taken it without blaming God. Come on now, oh, come on,
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you know that's what David did. He sat there in
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the ashpow, he put on his church clothes, the letting in,
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he fatherer, and he began to encourage himself in the Lord.
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He encouraged himself in the good things of God. Now,
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what makes you think God's gonna accept a lesser sacrificer
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upon the altar of ashs you that he would with
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job David. When you find your selfa going through hardship,
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that is when the sweetness comes out. When you find
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yourself being pressed, that is when the sweet juices foes.
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I'll tell you, when the nature of the cane stalker
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begins to break down, that's when the golden juice falls.
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And when you're pressed to what comes out? Do your
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cuss do you turn red past, do you get angry?
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Do you get mader? I want you to know God
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He'll continue to take you through the pressor until you
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are broken down.
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And after you're broken down, he'll boil you.
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The best thing you can do is just say, you
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know what, naked, I came into this earth, and naked
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shall I return. I came into this earth with the
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things God gifted me with, and I'll leave this earth
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the same way God gifted me. I came into this
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world with a certain amount of intellect, and I'll leave
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this world with a certain amount of intellect. I came
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into this world ugly, and I'll leave this world ugly.
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Do you know I know of a preacher who was
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very mad because he was not of a different nationality.
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That preacher tried to call me today. They said when
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he was in sin that he would walk around and
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curse men and God because he was not of a
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certain nationality. Even though he was a United States citizen,
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he wanted to be of a different nationality, of a
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different country. Can I tell you it takes a very unwise,
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a foolish man to walk around and want to be
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Chinese when he's an American. It takes a very foolish
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man for a Chinaman to walk around and wish that
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he was American born. You are what you are, aren't y'all?
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Thankful that God introduced himself to Moses as I am
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that I am, which is where you find the name
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of Yahweh. God said, let me introduce myself by this name, Yahweh.
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I am that I am.
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But Apostle Paul put a spin on it, and I've
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been working on a sermon. God brought this to my
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attention in a season of prayer. Apostle Paul said, by
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the grace of God, I am what I am. God said,
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I am that I am. An Apostle Paul said, I
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am what I am because of who He is. And
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you are who you are tonight because that's who He
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made you to be. He knew who he needed on
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this earth at such a time as this. You may
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not be Queen Easter Hey. You might be Lydia. You
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may not be Apostle Paul. You might be Timpathy. You
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might not be Charity. How you might be Hannah Edwards.
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You might not be black headed. You might be brown headed.
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You might not have steely brown or black eyes. You
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might have blue eyes. Oh, come on now. You may
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not be an a student to as hard as you try.
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You might be a sea student. But you are what
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you are by the grace and the goodness of God.
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And I'm telling you sometimes people go through things and
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they blame God, they blame authority, they blame the preacher,
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they blame the pastor they blame the parents. But I
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want you to know you are who you are, and
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you ought to be the best version of help yourself.
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I said you ought to be the best version of
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help yourself.
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I feel like preaching.
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He will try you. He will take away the filthy attitudes.
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He will feel you with sweetness and goodness, nurst of all,
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he will feel you with the sweet Holy girls. So
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let me get this straight. You want to curse God
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because you have it rough, But job being a perfect man,
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an upright man, sister wooting, and he's got to go
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through it. You the thought, because of his holiness and
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because of his righteousness, there'd have been nothing else to
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be done. But God knows this man. Even if he
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goes through it with it not being needed, he is
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not going to complain. And even when his best friends
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come and they falsely accuse him, and when some of
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them literally declare him to be a fool, and some
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of them literally declare him to be backsliding and against God,
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and some of them basically call him an infidel. He
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will sit there in that press, has the evil demons
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of Hell press him sore, and as boils begin to
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surface on his body, as he's scraping those balls with potsherds,
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little broken pieces of pottery, and then he finds out
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all of his kids are dead, the ones he prayed
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for every day, the ones he warned about the devil,
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the ones he warned about contaminating your soul with the
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things of this world, the ones that he warned about
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the lust of the flesh and the pride of life,
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and the lust of thy sister whit. He found out
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his mission project of his own family is over, His
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ministry is over. Even as empire is sunk, everything's going
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up in smoke. The enemies have been stirred up by
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Satan himself against him. And he's sitting there and the
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impsel Hell are pushing on that press. And somebody could say, look, look, father, look, father,
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look what's coming out of the press? Liquid gold, liquid gold.
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When he has tried me, I'll come forth as gold.
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Brother Jesse, you know a little bit about purging waterlines.
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You purge with great pressure and with a lot of water.
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Lucifer was sure that job would curse God. Lucifer was
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so sure that job was serving God only because things
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were going good for job, and God knew better. God
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just went ahead and found the best candidate that would
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bring forth the best sweet syrup. Have you tried this
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cane patch? It's the best, It's the best. I go
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out there and drive through Clewiston and Bell Glade, even
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down towards you Mockolee and now even summoned South La
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Bell and I see cane feel that the cane feel
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that they can feel. Brother Stared, I had forgot you
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worked there now for us Sugar, and years ago I
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did some access platforms with some of those big conveyors,
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ce ten towers, some of them conveyors, transferred towers, drag conveyors,
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all that stuff. Personally did the drawings on a lot
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of that back in the day, probably twenty years ago
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or so. I remember driving through Clewiston. I said, I'm
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close to where the sweet stuff is and somebody said,
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how do you know, I said, because I smelled the
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felt that is one of the stinkingest cities I've ever
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been in in my life, and I can't smell good.
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There was a water treatment plant behind my house for years,
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and after seven years, I never smelled at one time,
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Brother Stare. At many times we passed that water treatment
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plant and sister house, sister handed said that's future. Oh
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that's wretched, that's ungodly. That's while Sister Hannah Go felt
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nothing but felt I'm preaching the message the Holy Ghost titled.
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From Filthy to fhild.
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I forget how we call what we called that stuff,
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brother stare at bogossi or ball gas or something the
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byproduct of the sugar cane. It's been years now, what's
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it called gas? Ball gas? And I'm telling you it
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looks terrible, it smells terrible, It is terrible. You chew
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on that junk, it's fermented, it's wretched. But Brother Jesse,
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in the storage barns of us sugar, there's the prettiest sugar,
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grains of sugar, whether brown or white, whether refined or
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not refined. If you could get in there, after getting
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past the filt, you would say, I had no idea
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something that sweet could have come out of that philt.
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And that's what I'm trying to tell somebody. I pull
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for some of you all day to day for restoration
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to tell you it doesn't matter how low you've gone,
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it doesn't matter how far you've fallen, it doesn't matter
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how rotten you've got. I've heard even mamas before talk
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about their own boys and girls and say they're just
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so rotten. I don't know what to do with them.
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But can I tell you, God can make that rot
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just as sweet. And the best way to be refined
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is to come to this altar and to kneel at
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this altar right now while the spirit of God is moving,
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and say, Lord, I'm willing for you to change me.
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I don't want to stay the same. Lord, Refine me, Lord,
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decontaminate me, Lord, cleanse me, Purify me, purify me. Lord.
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After the impurities have been removed, he will move in.
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Sweetness will flow out. Brother Samuel, you know what that
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investor and the one that inherited that home is doing.
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He's letting you do the dirty work so he can
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sell that house. But just as soon as you take
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away the dross, just as soon as you take away
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the clutter, he's gonna send somebody in here to occupy
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that house. He's gonna see nothing but dollar signs. And
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that's what I'm trying to give you hope and a
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promise tonight. I'm not gonna hold anything against you. God's
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not gonna hold anything against you. But I am asking
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you to take the doubt so you can be filled
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with the sweetness of the Lord. Young people, if you're
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in a contaminated relationship or a toxic relationship, it's time
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to take to junk out so that God can bring
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in the good. Let's stand tonight. May God help us
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right here as we come to the altar, would you
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bow your head and may we pray? Someone won't mind
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filling a glass that has been perd of the filth.
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And Sister Howell didn't know what I was going to
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preach on tonight. She led us in song, and the
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song spoke these words, what can wash away my sin?
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Nothing but the blood of Jesus. What can rid me
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of these contaminants? What can make me whiter than snow?
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Nothing but the blood of Jesus. I'm not asking you
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to kneel at the work bench of us, sugar, I'm
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asking you to kneel at this holy ghost refinery here tonight,
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and let God take out the filth and let God
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work on that vessel that it might be meat for
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the Master's use. Are there other people that would come
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into this altar right now and pray with this brother
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and say, Preacher, I need the builth to be taken
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out so that the good can come in from filthy
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to filled. Mm hmm