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Sermon - Pastor Tim Johnson | Romans 9:19–29
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Welcome to the Avenue Community Church's podcast. We are a family of Christ
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followers seeking shalom in Memphis.
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We pray that you are encouraged by today's message. As you listen,
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may the word of God shape you to be more like him.
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We are back in Romans and we are past the coffee cup scripture.
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So this is like this is like the other side of the roller coaster.
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You know what I'm saying? It was, you know, so cool going up and now you're
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on the other side. And, you know, I ain't never seen Romans 9, 19 on any coffee cup.
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You know, maybe it should get there because it's still good. Amen.
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But in all seriousness and not just being trite, you know, we had this tremendous
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crescendo, I think Keller would say, in Romans 8.
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Man, it was so good and so sweet. And you ended with this big confidence,
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like what can separate us from the love of God?
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Nothing, right? You know, you get this, oh, that was a little weak.
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What can separate us from the love of God?
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Yeah, okay, okay, okay. And then you just get like this big nail pin in the balloon.
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It kind of just seems like, it seems like it lets all of the air out.
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Because Paul starts by grieving over the fact that his Jewish brothers and sisters,
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by and large, most of them had forfeited the gospel blessings.
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And so he begins to start defending himself because if the Jews are God's chosen
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people and some of them disqualified themselves or they forfeited these blessings,
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then I'm confused, Paul.
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How is it that God chooses his people? I don't understand how he does his things.
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I don't understand his decrees. I don't understand how he's working this thing.
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Begin to ask questions of God's equity, his justice, right? This doesn't seem right.
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It's all Paul begins to give his defense in those early verses that we talked about last week.
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That first of all, he's like, yo, we got to reframe this thing.
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God's purposes, his decrees are not influenced. Everybody say not influenced.
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See Ishmael, right? God said, I'm going to use you, Abraham,
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and you're going to have a child of promise, right?
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And so Abraham started to fabricate and manufacture it his own way.
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He's like, no, Jack, my purposes aren't influenced. I'm not hamstrung by how you do things.
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If I promise to do something, I'm going to do it.
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And so my purposes are uninfluenced. I didn't choose Ishmael, I chose Isaac.
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He says, God's purposes supersede all events in human history.
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Everything serves his purposes. He's uninfluenced. I don't wait till Jacob and Esau grow older.
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I don't wait till they get some toys in the play house and they start one-on-line.
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I don't wait on that. I choose before they even have an opportunity to influence
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my decision by their lack of virtue or virtue.
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My purposes supersede all things, and my purposes are just.
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See, Pharaoh, I am just the standard setter and bearer for justice. I create the rules.
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Everything I choose to do is right.
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And what I do with that is that I allow people's hearts to get hardened.
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I allow them not to choose me, and therefore I'm always vindicated because nobody
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becomes an object of wrath because they didn't also choose to be that object of wrath.
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We saw that interplay as you go back and you read through the Exodus narrative
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that sometimes God hardens Pharaoh's heart.
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And sometimes the scripture said Pharaoh's heart was hardened.
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And you see, what you see is this compatibilism that good reform people and
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biblical people always acknowledge.
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Yes, we believe that God cannot learn anything. He can't be shocked.
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We believe that at the end of time, he's not gonna be like, wow,
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you made it? That won't happen. You know what I'm saying?
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But we also hold in tension the fact that we have agency and volition and that
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if we end up being, spending eternity separated from God, he did that somehow
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without violating our will and our conscience.
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Now, we might not be able to explain it all. We might not be able to square
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it all, but we just know it's in the Bible and it's true.
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When God says he's patient, it's not a faux patience, right?
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Because like, yo, if God already knows what we're going to choose, why is he patient?
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Because there really is something that he's trying to allow us the ability to work out.
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He really is being patient with us, right?
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And so maybe Romans 9 has opened up a whole bunch of can of worms for you.
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And you're like, I got more questions than I got answers.
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I just want you to hear me as your pastor saying, amen.
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I got a bunch of them. I also...
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Offer some humility. And just because we don't understand things,
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it doesn't mean that they're not true.
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And it doesn't mean that God somehow
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needs to be controlled or somehow capitulate to what you got going on.
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He's holding both those things tenderly, allowing you to wrestle with certain things.
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I don't think some of y'all have had enough questions about what I preached about last week.
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I don't. I think you are just, some of you in a little spiritual little haze
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of just like, we just come here and worship God.
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I unloaded some pretty heavy stuff.
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And I think it should have jogged you a little bit like, huh.
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And some of you all, I think you're in the other ditch of, yeah,
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if I could just put every piece, baby, this is not one of them target puzzles
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with a thousand and pieces that you're going to be able to say,
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I think you're going to have to accept the fact that at some point,
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especially when you get to heavy doctrine, you just can't square at all.
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And God has a right to still be mysterious. He's got that right.
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Which kind of just leads us to where we're going to land today.
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Once again, Paul's anticipating that this is a quagmire for people.
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And they're like, man, I don't know what to do with this.
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So tell me, how is it that God chooses his people? Because I'm still confused, Paul.
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And how is it that God is just and can rationally hold people accountable for
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the fact that he hardens their heart?
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If God's will, his decrees are unchangeable, how are we held responsible?
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And so before we get into 19, or I mean, verse 20, because that's the question.
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Verse 19, one of you will say to me, then why does God still blame us for who
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is able to resist his will?
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Let's go back to Romans 1. You remember Romans 1, right?
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After we get this Romans 16, 17, this glorious, we're not ashamed of the gospels,
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the power of God unto salvation, right?
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We get this really high thesis statement of the gospel.
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And then we get that latter part where we start talking about, yeah,
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you know what, how everybody somehow through the created order in their conscience,
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they look at the sun, they look at the moon, they look at the stars and they
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know they can sense there is something out there bigger than me.
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And God says at the end of Romans 1, so they will be without excuse,
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just general revelation, just the way that God has ordained things by the fact
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that but you go to sleep and you wake up and you don't know what happens for
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them six to eight hours. You just know you woke back up.
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Something in that screams that there is something transcendent.
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And you won't be without excuse, friend.
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So when you start talking about this hardening of hearts, I want you to go back
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to Romans 1 and just remember that the first step is that the world fell into sin.
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And from that state, we are all operating usually in a truth suppression mode.
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We can sense things that we are trying to disregard or not to acknowledge.
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So that's where we're beginning.
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Pharaoh isn't beginning child of God and walks away. He's beginning like all of us begin.
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We sense something we don't want to submit to. And so therefore,
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when you think about the hardening concept,
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I want you to start from and realize you are starting in a place where you're
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already turned away from God and you are already,
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you have the propensity and the proclivity to choose things that are not God honoring.
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And so when God hardens you, he just lets you have what you want to have.
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I don't want you to think necessarily about God reaching into you and giving
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you dishonorable desires.
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God's not doing that. Go read Judges. Go read Genesis 6.
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God doesn't have to do that. When God hardens you, he just lets you continuously
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keep having what you want, which is not him.
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But when God, by his foreknowledge, elects you, when he chooses you,
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some miracle happens by which God then does come in and heals your mind and
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your will, sobers you to the point where you can realize, oh,
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I'm going the wrong way. And you can turn.
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So keep that in the backdrop. Let's read verse 20. But who are you? Everybody say who?
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Yeah, that's good. That's good. That's good. But who are you,
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a human being to talk back to God?
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Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it? Why did you make me like this?
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Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some
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pottery for special purposes and some for common use?
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Yikes. You know, this is pretty much like, you know, you're kind of talking
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with your mama. I don't want to. Mom, do I have to?
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But that's not fair. And then your mama say, this conversation is over.
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This is pretty much where we have landed. What we're about to get into is the
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doctrine of creation, the doctrine of God, the doctrine of humanity,
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which are so pivotal to your understanding of salvation.
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Which just means for us that we got to get our Bible bigger.
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That the Bible narrative is bigger than sinners needing salvation.
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It's so much bigger than that. And who created us and where our final destiny
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are the beginning chapters and the ending end chapters that really shape how
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we understand what God is doing in his redemptive work.
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And I think it first starts with this. let's just
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do some quick doctrine of God stuff you know there's a time like I was really
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kind of getting sad like Gina's memories are better than me I'm getting ready
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to have a child who's getting ready to graduate high school but one point in
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time that child was as small as Kezia,
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as small as these other little ones in here crawling in between people's light
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baby truth That big joker who forgets his deodorant and has whiskers growing out. I had to do it.
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Stephen A's hit. Oh, it's the other one.
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But, you know, as you can imagine, I got a bunch of parents in the room.
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But, you know, we have these really special moments. And these babies,
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they're so innocent and they're so sweet.
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And my big boy, man, we used to sit places and he'd be crawling through my neck.
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And he'd be wrestling me. And sometimes we just had moments and we'd be sitting out.
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We'd throw rocks and skip rocks. And I could just imagine us sitting down.
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It's kind of like the Mufasa moment where he's, you know, Mufasa got Simba.
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And they're explaining how the world works.
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And I can remember that little fella just sitting there with me,
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hand on my neck, and he's looking at the fish.
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He's like, Dad, how can the fish be in the water like that?
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How is it that they could just swim? Like, we can't swim. We can't do that.
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And then all of a sudden, Dad would have to just say, oh, son,
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Noah, they're a different kind of thing than we are.
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I think I had a moment literally this week in preparation where I feel like
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for us to really understand Romans 9 and for us to wrap ourselves around God's
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saving purposes and how he's doing it is I think we first have to realize you
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and God are two different kind of things, man.
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God is not an upgraded human.
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He's not a better version of you, friend. He's an altogether different thing.
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And unless you start there, His work and salvation will always confuse you.
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You will misunderstand his justice and his kindness. His ways will baffle you
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because you are still comparing apples to apples and you are not.
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When he's holy, he's not the best of us. He's different than us.
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God is a spirit, infinite, eternal, unchangeable in his being,
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wisdom, power, holiness, justice, goodness, and truth.
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He's limitless. He's outside of time, y'all.
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He's unalterable. He's all-knowing. He's all-powerful. He is literally morally excellent.
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And I think one of the things we have to wrap our mind around is,
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listen, the difference between being made in his image and Colossians 1.15,
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when they speak about Jesus, he is the image of God.
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Brother, you got to understand what it means to be like something and not something.
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You have things in common with God. We call them communicable attributes,
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things that he does and he has that we demonstrate.
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Kindness, gentleness, right? All these things.
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There are some things we can share in common, but there's a whole boatload of things that we can't.
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So let's talk about human beings. He says, but you are a human being.
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You talk back to God, a completely different being.
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This is funny. As I was swimming in Romans 9, George preached the Haggai scripture out of chapter 1.
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And inevitably they got to that moment where somebody's having the back and
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forth with God and George was like, yo, you talking to God like that?
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And then Matt got up and preached that burning bush scenario,
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Exodus 3 and 4 and Moses going back and forth with God and he's got all these
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excuses, but God, what are they going to do? And God, I can't talk.
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And then God eventually is like, but brother, who made your mouth?
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I just saying, don't tell me what the mouth can do. I formed it.
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All trillion versions of them.
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Human beings are something altogether different. And I want you to listen to
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this definition of sin. I want to reframe some things for you.
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Yes, sin is missing the mark.
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Yes, sin is a personal affront against God. But John Webster offers this. Listen to this.
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Sin is most fundamentally rebellion against our createdness.
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Sin is the absurd affair in which the
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creature seeks to be creature in a
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way other than which it is purposed by God let
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me just read that one slow sin is the absurd affair in which the creature seeks
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to be a creature in a way other than which it was purposed by God the creator
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you want to know and friends and family, we love you.
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Maybe if we hadn't come to known Jesus, we would do the same things you do.
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But you want to know why our theology on sexuality and gender and racism and
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all those things, it all comes out of the fact that we've been created and we don't have the right.
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We actually don't have the right to say what we do with these things that we were given.
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These bodies, this is not personal, have nothing to do with you.
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Everything to do with the fact that when we were born again,
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our eyes got open to the fact, oh, we ain't our own?
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Oh, we didn't get created 42 years ago because Joe and Linda was,
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oh, we better live for him? Okay, I got you.
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Just reframes the whole thing, friends.
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And here's the other thing you need to know about your humanity.
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By God's grace and by his spirit, you can be rewired to live above your fallenness,
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but you'll never be able to escape your humanity.
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Never be able to fly. You'll never be all-knowing.
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By God's grace, anybody touching agree, you could defeat porn. By God's grace.
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By God's grace and his spirit, I can learn to live victorious.
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I can learn how to bridle my tongue.
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I can learn how to be more patient. I can learn how to be more kind.
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I could release bitterness and unforgiveness. Those things, my friend,
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oh yeah, we can do something with that.
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But you're going to get tired. You will be hungry.
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You will get frustrated. You will get anxious because you're a human being, friend.
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And maybe the most important thing we have to keep in front of us is we don't
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know what we should be doing.
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You can graduate summa cum laude.
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And you do have agency. Like, you do have the ability to make decisions.
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This is not, God has made us this way where we're not, hey, man, I can tie my shoes.
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God, do I need to tie my shoes? I don't have to do that.
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Be the overall master of your ship, you are not qualified.
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You are not qualified at any point in time. You were made to need his guidance.
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But can we just be honest? That is the chief sin is we don't want that.
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I don't want to need that. And it frustrates us.
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And I think the people Paul is speaking to is just frustrating them.
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But the reality is when you want to start talking about how we understand our
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relationship to God, he offers the great metaphor and analogy.
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It's more like the potter and clay.
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And this motif comes up several times in scripture.
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Jeremiah 18, I believe is what's being quoted here, but it comes up in Isaiah
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29, 45, other places, which is like, yo, at some point, you have to realize
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I'm the potter, you're the clay.
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Now, the potter reserves the right to remain, to retain creative control.
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I made you and I get the right to shape these destinies.
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Now, famously, Job 38, Job decides to pipe up, Job 38 through 42.
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And God says, okay, son, You sit down. Let me answer you. You got time?
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Because I got time today.
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Sit on down, brother. Where were you?
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Maybe as just some good devotional material this week, you should read Job 38 through 42.
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Yo, when I marked out the foundations of the galaxy, where were you, friend?
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You know where Job ends up getting to? You know, I've seen this play out several times in my house.
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My grandmom oh you got well let me
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just tell you and then you know by the time they get started you just like you're
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in a pool of tears you shame you said I didn't know you was doing all that just
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you please stop and Job's please stop moment was in 42 he said listen surely
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I spoke things I did not understand things too wonderful for me to know.
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How God works his sovereignty, chooses his people, demonstrates his mercy without violating your will.
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At some point, this is where you're going to end up, friend.
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Maybe it's just a little too wonderful for me to know.
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I came across a quote by a theologian.
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And she says that we can only learn by submitting to something bigger than we are.
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The faith I was building out of my prejudices and preconceptions could never be bigger than I was.
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I was constructing a safe, tidy, unsurprising God who could never transform
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me, but would only confirm my residence in that familiar bog I called home.
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And she said, I had to have more than that.
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I wonder if some of us have to come to grips as we read Romans 9,
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that some of the frustrations and the tensions we have is that we got a little Exodus 32 going on.
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We're trying to make a God and a faith that fits our minds instead of just allowing
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him to do his thing and saying, all right, you still have the right to confound me.
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You still have the right to be mysterious.
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Maintains creative control because he made everything. And I think what we see
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in the rest of this passage is just how important the Jewish narrative in biblical
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history is important to our present understanding of salvation.
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God doesn't change, right? That's God's immutable. He doesn't change.
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And this is really cool. Every time you get to passages like this,
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where Paul is explaining and unpacking a present salvific reality by using Old Testament Israel,
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this is just an arrow in the quiver of those who do some apologetics just to
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say, God ain't never changed.
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He'd been working the same way.
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When God starts talking about, yo, I had already chose Isaac over Ishmael.
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I had already chose Jacob over Esau.
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And I had heart of Pharaoh's heart. What is he saying?
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He's saying, I didn't switch it up in 2023.
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I've been doing the same things and I could explain it to you by using Old Testament references.
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That's crazy to me. And so he goes on, 22, what if God, although choosing to
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show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects
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of wrath prepared for destruction?
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What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of
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his mercy. So you got two different objects. You got objects of wrath, objects of mercy.
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He says, yo, I was patient with the objects of wrath and I did so,
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so that that would be encouraging to the objects who would receive mercy.
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23, what if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects
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of mercy who he prepared in advance for glory?
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24 says, even us, say, even us. Turn to your neighbor, say, even us.
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Whom he also called not only from the Jews, but also from the Gentiles.
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And this is so sweet, so incredibly sweet.
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Pertains to salvation, the way we need to see God primarily as the dispenser of mercy.
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Mercy, Elias in the Greek, refers to this compassionate treatment of people
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who should be receiving something else.
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This compassionate treatment of people who are in distress, especially when
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it's within one's power to punish or harm them.
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God says, it's in my power.
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It's within my right to punish and harm you because all of you,
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Romans 3, 23, all of you have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.
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So all of you deserve the death.
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So it's within my right to extend mercy to whomever I want.
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Let's quickly just talk about a couple of things we learn about mercy.
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Number one, God's mercy is the way that the vehicle God used to build his multi-ethnic family.
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This is why xenophobia and
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racism and all those other things are so
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abhorrent in the body of faith is because
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it's baked in the very foundation of
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God's saving mission is that I'm going to show you how awesome my salvation
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is by not just giving it to the people who thought they would get it by extending
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it to everybody and and if you ever thought beautifully about revelation 7 and
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nine and all those things,
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then you've got to praise God for his mercy because that's the vehicle he used.
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Oh, I'm going to get one from over there and over here and over here and over here.
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And you have to become incredibly suspicious of yourself to understand that
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sometimes the person who was walking this way, it rears up and you have a part of you,
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every last one of you, You have
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a part of you who doesn't want God's mercy to be true for that person.
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You stop snickering your noses up. Stop acting like you're better than other
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people because a part of human nature is the fact that we will look out for ourselves at all costs.
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Stop playing yourself. Stop getting on these high and mighty crusades with other people.
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And you can just tell the difference in their gospel because their gospel is
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not, hey, treat these people better so that they can be with us.
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He's like, treat these people better and keep those people away.
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There's somebody who's always getting excluded.
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If your gospel don't make room for everybody, you ain't preaching the gospel.
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And you don't understand the
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surprising nature of God's mercy that you get to be a part of his family.
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Paul quotes Hosea 2 and 23. This is really cool.
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Sam Husband, Josh and them, they could just tell you how cool this,
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particular verses, Loamy, right?
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As he says in Hosea, I will call them my people who are not my people,
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and I will call her my loved one who is not my loved one.
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And in the very place where it was said to them, you are not my people,
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there they will be called children of the living God. Oh, God, man.
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Demonstrated this by the calling of Gentiles into salvation, right?
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He's demonstrating here, I'm calling not only just the sinful people to me,
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but I'm calling the people who were not my people.
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And this is forever for you to understand that mercy in its very nature has to be undeserving.
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Mercy cannot be calculated and formulated. It's always no.
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If you get mercy and say, yes, man, I worked really hard.
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Nobody ever receives mercy and comes away is like, yes, I deserve that.
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The whole testimony of humanity is me.
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I'm on a church pew in the church
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that my dad pastors in 1999 and i am doing everything that i want to do and
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i finally heard this song differently than i would have heard it before and
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i just couldn't get over Me,
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me, me,
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you know, I'm staying. Thanks, your mom.
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If there's anybody who deserves wrath, it should be me.
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Because I have great parents, and they were faithful. They taught me God's word.
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They sung it over me. They prayed over me. But I still was going that way.
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I don't deserve this. If your grace makes sense, you ain't got it.
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Amen. Amen.
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Just trying to say that the whole economy of mercy is based on surprises.
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That's what it is.
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Could you imagine how dumbfounded they were to hear we're in exile and you're
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going to call the people who are not your people, your people? Wait a minute.
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Yeah, I'm full of surprises because all I do is dispense blessing to people who don't deserve it.
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And what that means is that you're always going to be like, wow.
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Can I encourage some of you all who have been praying for people?
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Can I encourage some of y'all who like, they seem so far away.
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Stand up, man. Can I just encourage you? Where I at? Can I just encourage some
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of y'all who just think people are just unreachable?
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God just, he just do crazy stuff. He do God's stuff just because he can, Mitch.
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Just because he can, because he's an altogether different being than we are.
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And if you ever wanted to get your hands around how God does his thing,
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just say, God's full of surprises.
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That's what he do. and he's always working with a smaller group than you think he is.
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This is what the next quote from Isaiah talks about.
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It was prophesied to them that though the number of Israelites be like the sand
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by the sea, it says only a remnant is going to be saved.
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For the Lord will carry out his sentence on earth's speed and with finality.
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It is just as Isaiah said previously, Unless the Lord God Almighty had left
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us descendants, we could have become like Sodom and we would have been like Gomorrah.
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Pertains to salvation, what we are meant to feel, what Paul is trying to get
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us to wrap our head around and feel viscerally, it's just a shock.
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It's not that God saves everyone. It's that God saves anyone.
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That's what we're supposed to feel. It's like, he don't have to do none of this.
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The fact that he would choose anyone should blow our minds.
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Music.
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I think there's a tragedy. Is it Myanmar?
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Is that right? It's a big natural disaster.
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And I imagine, you know, Gina watches Chicago Fire or something.
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Is that it? Is it right? Oh, she watches all the Chicago's.
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And so there's you know every episode every episode somebody's in grave danger
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and you know you got the people that coming in they try to do a thing can you
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imagine something like me and mark these people got buildings collapse on and
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whatever and there's there's hundreds of people,
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who are in need of rescue and then all of a sudden the EMTs and rescue teams
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they they come in there and they're trying, they're trying to grab people.
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And then they come out and they grab five,
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but 25 perish. Could you imagine someone saying to the EMTs, you're unjust?
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To give you some metaphors some some imagery to try to understand what's happening in romans 9.
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Everyone is going this direction and it's their choice,
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the fact that god comes and grabs a couple of them and comes out he's not unjust.
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James Kennedy put it like this,
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he says there's a story about I heard about a robbery getting ready to take
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place I pleaded with the friend don't go the friend went in anyway,
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but if I heard it right some kind of way he found out he heard about it and
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the protagonist grabbed his friend and that was the only one he had time to
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get and the rest of them perished in the bank robbery,
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is he unjust all of those individuals made their choices,
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and they suffered the consequences of their choices the god who's rich in mercy He grabs some.
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Learned today? If I didn't scare you away from following Jesus,
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you just got to stay in your place.
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I think that's what we learned today. You just got to stay actually in your place.
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You know, sometimes you see these job postings, and I've been the leader of
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a couple organizations.
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You know, every once in a while, you kind of talk to people,
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and they're like, hey, hey, hey, this, that, this, that, this, that, this, that.
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I'm going to do this, that, this, that, and this, that. and it's like,
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oh, that's interesting.
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It's like, because that sounds like what I'm supposed to be doing.
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And they're like, oh, no, no, no, no. I'm like, yeah. I don't mean no offense.
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It just sounds a whole lot like my responsibilities.
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Friends, there is no position opening for God. That one's closed.
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That one's settled.
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But i think you need to be more comfortable admitting that you really want that job,
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it's not playing cute church with yourself oh i i just think oh i just got opinions
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no you don't you want to be god it's okay it's just genesis 3 when eve heard
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that it was a possibility,
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She'd be like, yo,
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devil was like, you could be like God. She'd be like, what?
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Now we talking, Jack. I mean, go back and read it.
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She said pretty much most of the right things. Yeah, no, God didn't say that.
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He said this. He did it. You could be like God.
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Now that sound pretty good.
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Music.
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Out of God.
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And you could enjoy his blessings for eternity.
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And guess what? To be that child, all you need to do is not be born to the right family.
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You don't need to have some fancy church record of how many sins you don't do
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and do do and how many small groups you in or don't in and what you watch and don't watch,
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all you have to know is, yo, I'm living like I'm my own God. And I'm sorry.
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I need you to be my God. And I believe in the one who was God,
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who put on flesh. I believe in him.
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And I want his mercy. And you can be his child. And you don't even know,
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I have to figure out who's going to heaven or hell.
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You could just be God's child,
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you know what's so sad I think some people say I heard that clearly but I'd rather be God.