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Spiritual Lessons from our Walk with God - Part 3: Truth Matters | Pastor Pablo Morales

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  1. Welcome to ECB's weekly sermon podcast. ECB is

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  7. by this week's sermon. Do you remember the first

  8. Bible that you ever got? I know, there was a

  9. time in which the Bible didn't look like my phone.

  10. I remember my first Bible. It was black leather

  11. with gold, beautiful. And as you open it, fine

  12. paper, beautiful print, and the words of Jesus

  13. were all in red. And I was just seven years old.

  14. That was a birthday gift that I got that time,

  15. and I remember it. Because it was so beautiful.

  16. I almost didn't want to open it because it looked

  17. so fragile, you know. And I had the privilege

  18. of growing up in a home where my parents followed

  19. the Lord Jesus. They themselves were not Christians.

  20. All their lives. They in fact grew up in homes

  21. where the parents did not know the Lord. But

  22. as teenagers, both of my parents came to know

  23. the Lord independently. They met each other.

  24. They married. And that's how our family began

  25. from there. So I was born in a Christian home.

  26. But it was a congruent one. My parents believed.

  27. They followed Jesus. And they walked the talk.

  28. So from the beginning, I was taught about Jesus.

  29. I was taught about the Bible. I would read my

  30. Bible. And I was fascinated by the world of the

  31. Bible. I never had to question anything because

  32. everybody around me believed the same thing.

  33. Then when I went to college, I studied a bachelor's

  34. degree in Bible studies and music. So I spent

  35. four years of my life in my early 20s. studying

  36. the Bible in the context of academia. And that

  37. was so insightful. I learned so much, and it

  38. was great. But after that, the Lord opened the

  39. door for me to get my master's in theology at

  40. an institution in the U .S. called Dallas Theological

  41. Seminary. And it was a great place to go and

  42. study theology. But something happened then that

  43. I never anticipated. I had a faith crisis. And

  44. to that point, I had never even thought about

  45. questioning the Bible. But it happened then.

  46. And it's because I was in a stage of having to

  47. study much more in depth. I was studying theology,

  48. not just Bible. And at that moment, What you

  49. start doing is that you have to engage in so

  50. many topics, read so many books, and then you

  51. have to study Hebrew, you have to study Greek,

  52. and you write what is called exegetical papers.

  53. You take a passage from the Bible, you translate

  54. it from the original language, and then you have

  55. to start translating. And you realize that there

  56. are some words that can be translated one way

  57. or the other. And it depends on context. And

  58. there are decisions that are made by people who

  59. translate. That I did not know about. I thought

  60. the text was what it was. And that's what the

  61. Bible says. I didn't realize that there was an

  62. element of human interpretation in the translation.

  63. And then secondly, I never even had thought about

  64. how did we get the Bible. I just had a Bible

  65. and it looked nice. But I never had to spend

  66. time thinking, well, but how did we get the text?

  67. And that's when I discovered that there were

  68. manuscripts, some manuscripts that had been copied

  69. throughout centuries, and that some manuscripts

  70. have variances. And it's like, what? Variances

  71. in the text? How does that work? So in that moment,

  72. I had to start looking at the Bible that I grew

  73. up believing in. And for the first time, I started

  74. wondering, how do I know this is true? How can

  75. I trust this thing? Does God even exist? Or I

  76. believe in these things because I just inherited

  77. them, and I grew up in a Christian home, so I

  78. just believed it because my parents told me.

  79. Never in my life it occurred to me that in my

  80. mid -20s, as I was doing my master's, I would

  81. have that experience. So I remember that I talked

  82. to a couple of classmates and professors and

  83. said, you know, can you pray for me because I'm

  84. going through a faith crisis. And I had their

  85. support. It was a time of engaging in understanding.

  86. Because I realized that doubt, as it's put in

  87. theology, is faith -seeking understanding. So

  88. going through that process of doubt, it was not

  89. opposite to faith. It was just part of the journey

  90. in my life of moving from belief to conviction.

  91. What do I mean by that? The way I put it is like

  92. this. Imagine that I'm given this gift of Legos.

  93. For those of you that have kids, you know what

  94. Legos are, right? So I have this beautiful toy

  95. that is all made up of all these little parts

  96. and I like it. It's so nice and my parents give

  97. it to me. So I have it and I enjoy it. But one

  98. day somebody came and took that beautiful toy.

  99. threw it on the floor. And now all the pieces

  100. are all over the place. And now it's my job to

  101. have to figure out how the pieces go together

  102. so I can build it. That will require understanding.

  103. Before, I didn't need to understand anything.

  104. I just had to enjoy it. But now, I had to understand

  105. it in order to build it. And that is what was

  106. happening in my spiritual journey at that moment.

  107. I was moving from belief, a system that I inherited,

  108. To now having to put it together and realize,

  109. do I believe this or do I believe that? Where

  110. does this go? How does this connect? And that

  111. process was disorienting. It was hard, but it

  112. was worth it. Because when we have belief but

  113. not conviction, we can't just work in this place

  114. of just following God, but, you know, from a

  115. comfortable place of distance. And we don't engage

  116. with things because we don't know and it doesn't

  117. matter. But when you cannot avoid it, and you

  118. have to engage with it because you are in crisis,

  119. and you need to know the answer because you want

  120. to understand, then suddenly you start developing

  121. conviction. And when conviction is born, it's

  122. like a solidity, a foundation that is developed

  123. that takes your journey with the Lord to another

  124. level. That journey is what taught me this important

  125. spiritual lesson that I want to share with you.

  126. And that lesson is that the Bible is truth. And

  127. that I am a follower of Jesus, not because I'm

  128. religious, but because Jesus is truth. And until

  129. we understand that, we will continue approaching

  130. the aspect of following Jesus or identifying

  131. as a Christian as a matter of opinion rather

  132. than as a matter of truth. And what I discovered

  133. in my journey of wrestling through these things

  134. was a whole framework that has to do with what

  135. we call epistemology, the study of what is true.

  136. Let me take you, for instance, at the beginning.

  137. Of the process of thinking through some of these

  138. things. The very last chapter of the book of

  139. Isaiah. He is the prophet that was telling us

  140. everything about Jesus the Messiah that was going

  141. to come. We studied those prophecies at the end

  142. of the year, last year. In the Christmas season.

  143. Well he finishes his book. The very last chapter

  144. which is chapter 66. With this. This is Jesus

    Isaiah 66 chapter mention

  145. and this is God speaking to people. And God says

  146. something that is very significant for anyone

  147. that is seeking God. God says, look, I created

  148. everything, even you, so what do you have to

  149. give me really nothing because I created everything.

  150. But if you want to know what pleases me, let

  151. me tell you what pleases me. And he says this.

  152. These are the ones I look on with favor. Those

  153. who are humble and contrite in spirit and who

  154. tremble at my word. Two things that matter to

  155. me, God says, are you humble? Are you teachable?

  156. Or you think that you are the person with all

  157. the answers and that you know better? And when

  158. you encounter my word, do you take it seriously?

  159. Or you disregard it? For God, it matters whether

  160. we have a humble attitude and whether we engage

  161. with his words seriously. That's why he says

  162. this in this section. I love those who tremble

  163. at my word, that take me seriously when I say

  164. it, they hear it, and they take it to heart.

  165. So God wants us to take his word seriously. But

  166. one of the things that we discovered at the beginning

  167. of the ministry of Jesus is that he found people

  168. that were religious, but they were not taking

  169. God's word seriously. And these religious leaders

  170. that he encountered called the Pharisees. He

  171. engaged with them one moment in conversation,

  172. and he said to them, if you believe Moses, you

  173. would believe me, for he wrote about me. The

  174. problem here is that since you do not believe

  175. what he wrote, how are you going to believe what

  176. I say? These people were supposedly serving God,

  177. but they were not believing the word that God

  178. had given. Did you pay attention to what Jesus

  179. said? Let me read it again. If you believe who?

  180. Moses. You will believe me because he wrote about

  181. me. What did he write? What did Moses write?

  182. Do you know the answer to that? Well, he wrote

  183. Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

  184. The first five books of the Bible. That's called

  185. the Pentateuch. And Jesus says, look, Moses wrote

  186. these first five books. And if you believe what

  187. he wrote, then you will believe me. Because he

  188. wrote about me. The Bible says that Jesus is

  189. a God who became a human like us to bring salvation

  190. for us. That he is the creator of the world.

  191. Well, who wrote about God creating the world?

  192. Moses. In Genesis. Jesus says, Moses wrote about

  193. me. If you would believe Moses, you would believe

  194. me. But you don't believe me because you don't

  195. believe Moses. And he points out to the reality

  196. that some people may be wanting to follow God,

  197. but the problem that is holding them back is

  198. unbelief. They may have the word, but they don't

  199. believe it. And that is the stage I was in. I

  200. was in a stage of faith crisis. Do I believe

  201. this or not? And as you start engaging with interpretation

  202. of different things, there are so many opinions

  203. about everything that you experience something

  204. that I call paralysis by analysis. It's like,

  205. well, I believe this. And you start researching.

  206. It's like, what, there are like 10 views about

  207. this? Which one is right? All these arguments.

  208. It's like, paralyzed. I don't know what I know

  209. anymore. And that place. Can lead people to saying,

  210. I don't know and I don't care. But that's not

  211. taking God's word seriously, is it? So I remember

  212. that in that stage, I had to go through this

  213. wrestling. And that wrestling is a healthy wrestling

  214. because now you have to spend time understanding.

  215. And you have to understand it. Because at the

  216. core, what we are talking about is truth. And

  217. Jesus said that truth was going to set us free.

  218. Jesus is not interested in opinions or diversity.

  219. Jesus is interested in truth. That's why when

  220. he prays for us, his followers, from the very

  221. beginning, There's a moment in which he prays

  222. for the apostles and he says, I pray for them

  223. that they will be one, that they will be united.

  224. But in this section, he says this, I have given

  225. them something. What did he give them? I have

  226. given them your word. He uses the word logos

  227. in Greek here to talk about the word, which means

  228. the revelation of God. God, I have given them

  229. your revelation. I have given them your word.

  230. And the world has hated them, for they are not

  231. of the world any more than I am of the world.

  232. My prayer is not that you take them out of the

  233. world, but that you protect them from the evil

  234. one. They are not of the world, even as I am

  235. not of it. Sanctify them by the truth. Your word

  236. is truth. And this is what Jesus prays, and in

  237. this prayer, he frames everything to this concept

  238. of epistemology. It's an issue of truth. I don't

  239. know if you've ever been feeling sick, but when

  240. you feel sick, typically you go to the doctor.

  241. Let me ask you something. Are you interested

  242. in the doctor's opinion or are you interested

  243. in truth? Yeah, I know you're interested in truth.

  244. If you go to one doctor and he tells you one

  245. thing and you go to a second doctor and she tells

  246. you a different thing, now what are you going

  247. to do? Which one are you going to choose? Most

  248. likely you're going to get a third opinion to

  249. see which one is accurate, right? If you go to

  250. a third opinion, Is this person matching some

  251. of the others? Because you want truth. You don't

  252. want just opinion. And when we're talking about

  253. believing in God, following Jesus, we're not

  254. talking about religions as opinions. We're talking

  255. about truth. And therefore, when we engage with

  256. truth, we have to remember that truth is true

  257. because it's factual. And it correlates with

  258. reality. And one of the things that we find from

  259. the very beginning of Christianity is not that

  260. just Jesus framed following him as seeking truth

  261. and believing in truth, but his followers, the

  262. apostles, They wrote about these things and salvation

  263. and the things that were going to happen in the

  264. future and all of these things from a perspective

  265. of conviction that this was true. And that's

  266. why they were following. Let me give you an example.

  267. The Apostle John, who wrote the Gospel of John,

  268. and who also wrote 1st, 2nd, 3rd John, three

  269. letters to Christians, and he wrote the book

  270. of Revelation. So this was one of the apostles

  271. that wrote several of the books that we have

  272. in the Bible. When he begins the first letter

  273. of John, he writes it like this. That which was

  274. from the very beginning, from the very beginning

  275. of history, there's something that we're telling

  276. you about. And that is something that we have

  277. heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which

  278. we have looked at. And our hands have touched.

  279. We are telling you about this person. And this

  280. we proclaim concerning the word of life. This

  281. was a title given to Jesus. What John is saying,

  282. look, we are telling you about Jesus because

  283. we have heard him. We have seen him. We have.

  284. Touched him. What we are telling you is true.

  285. We experienced it. We are not making it up. So

  286. you can see that from the very beginning. The

  287. people that taught us and wrote about these things.

  288. They wrote from a place of saying this is fact.

  289. That's why I'm teaching you. And that's why you

  290. need to believe it. Because it's true. If you

  291. don't believe it you will be deceived. Believing

  292. something else that is not true. Well, how do

  293. you know? Because I saw it, I touched it, I was

  294. there. There was a man who did not believe in

  295. Jesus, who did not believe that God existed.

  296. He was just a professional with his wife, both

  297. of them agnostics. And he was enjoying his career

  298. as a lawyer, as a journalist, and one day his

  299. wife, proclaimed that she had become a Christian.

  300. What do you do when you are an agnostic and your

  301. wife says, I'm a Christian now? Well, he did

  302. everything that any loving husband would do.

  303. I'm going to try to rescue you so that you will

  304. not be brainwashed because you're in a cult or

  305. something. You know, and we know the truth that

  306. God doesn't exist and all that Christian stuff

  307. is nonsense. It's myth. So he decided to start

  308. researching and getting involved as a journalist,

  309. as a lawyer, with all the techniques that he

  310. had learned. His name is Lee Strobel. And at

  311. the end of this journey, of this process, he

  312. started discovering that the things... that he

  313. thought were just myth, did not happen, this

  314. Jesus thing was not true. All of that actually

  315. was verifiable through history. There were records

  316. in history. There was archaeological evidence.

  317. There were all of these different things that

  318. suddenly led him to believe that what the Bible

  319. said about Jesus was true. And he became a follower

  320. of Jesus just like his wife. And eventually he

  321. wrote many books. One of the famous ones was

  322. The Case for Christ. One of the latest ones that

  323. he wrote is God Real. It's written to help teenagers

  324. that are going through asking questions. They

  325. want to know if this is really true or not. Or

  326. I believe it's just because my parents told me.

  327. An agnostic person From the U .S. Thinking that

  328. none of these things really happen. And realizes

  329. that actually, after all, they are true. And

  330. because they are true, I must believe it. Let

  331. me tell you the story of the Apostle Paul. Because

  332. the Apostle Paul was not a follower of Jesus.

  333. He persecuted Christians. But the reason why

  334. he became a follower of Jesus, he says, is because

  335. Jesus appeared to him. The resurrected Jesus

  336. appeared to him. And that's what turned his life

  337. around. He thought that Jesus was a fake. And

  338. there's a moment, as he's teaching people about

  339. Jesus, that he realizes there are some people

  340. that are saying that Jesus did not resurrect.

  341. That that's fairytale, that those things don't

  342. happen. So as he's engaging in that conversation,

  343. he says, okay. Just for the sake of argument,

  344. let's say that Jesus really did not resurrect

  345. and all of that is made up. If that's true, he

  346. says these words. If there is no resurrection

  347. of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised.

  348. And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching

  349. is useless. And so is your faith. You are wasting

  350. your time. If Jesus is not real. And if Jesus

  351. did not resurrect. Then we are wasting our time.

  352. And not only that. But let the world have pity

  353. on us. Because we are the most deceived people

  354. in the world. Believing a lie of something that

  355. never happened. If only for this life we have

  356. hope in Christ. We are of all the people must

  357. to be pitied. But then he says, but the resurrection

  358. did happen. And Jesus is alive because I saw

  359. him. So I don't believe in the resurrection because

  360. it sounds cool. I believe in it because it's

  361. true. And because it's true, I believe it. During

  362. the 1800s, there was a whole movement in the

  363. Christian... colleges and academia and universities.

  364. Because remember during the 1800s, the area of

  365. Israel was not open for archaeological digs.

  366. It was a political time of empires. Therefore,

  367. during the 1800s, they didn't have any much archaeological

  368. discoveries or things, information, data that

  369. corroborated the Bible. So many people started

  370. Thinking maybe that didn't happen. Maybe this

  371. Jesus thing, the resurrection, angels, miracles.

  372. We know that that doesn't happen. Miracles don't

  373. happen. But the Bible is full of all this stuff.

  374. So what started happening is that there was a

  375. movement in theology called liberal theology.

  376. It's called liberal theology not as an insult

  377. to the people. Oh, you're a liberal. It's not

  378. that. Liberal theology in those terms meant that

  379. people that consider themselves Christians did

  380. not believe that the Bible was historical. And

  381. therefore, they thought the Bible was myth. They

  382. still wanted to believe in it, but now they had

  383. to reinterpret everything. Maybe it's metaphorical,

  384. maybe symbolic. And from that way of thinking,

  385. There was a whole movement that started reinterpreting

  386. the Gospels. And there was a way of thinking

  387. that Jesus was a real person, but then he became

  388. Christ through the myths of religion. So this

  389. phase from Jesus to Christ was a phrase used

  390. much later by a group of academicians that were

  391. liberal academicians, don't believe the Bible

  392. was true. And they created something that is

  393. called the Jesus Seminar. If you're in the U

  394. .S., typically during Easter season or Christmas

  395. season, places like PBS, Discovery Channel, and

  396. all of these places are going to show one of

  397. these videos. And the moment you see from Jesus

  398. to Christ, you know, oh, those are those guys.

  399. What they thought was Jesus was a real person.

  400. But all of this is mixed with myth. So you have

  401. to remove the myth in order to find the real

  402. Jesus. And that was the academic way of thinking

  403. in the late 1800s. And there was a guy at the

  404. beginning of the 1900s, his last name was Morris,

  405. who was an agnostic, an academician, but he was

  406. fascinated by the life of Jesus. So he decided

  407. that he was going to research in his academic

  408. work the last seven years of the life of Jesus

  409. because he wanted to prove something. And he

  410. writes it later. Let me tell you his words, what

  411. he said. He said, I wanted to strip it of its

  412. overgrowth of primitive beliefs and dogmatic

  413. suppositions. Like, I wanted to remove all the

  414. mythology out of this Jesus so I could really

  415. find the real Jesus. Because I wanted to see

  416. this supremely great person as he really was.

  417. He was approaching it from that perspective.

  418. This cannot be true. Resurrection doesn't happen.

  419. Angels, forget it. God becoming man. Jesus born

  420. of a virgin. Come on, that's fairytale. We are

  421. rational people here. We know those things don't

  422. happen. So in the process of doing his research.

  423. He became a Christian. He became a follower of

  424. Jesus because the evidence that he found was

  425. so overwhelming that he realized, wait, this

  426. is not myth. This really happened. And that's

  427. when he wrote this famous book, Who Moved the

  428. Stone? And this is the book that he wrote to

  429. share what had convinced him that the resurrection

  430. actually had happened. And Paul says, yeah, it

  431. did. That's why I believe it. Because it's true.

  432. Not because it's nice. Let me tell you about

  433. the life of the Apostle Peter. Because the Apostle

  434. Peter was not a follower of Jesus at the beginning.

  435. He was a fisherman. But then he became a follower

  436. of Jesus. And his understanding of who Jesus

  437. was grew with time until the time of the resurrection.

  438. And he became one of the key leaders in Christianity.

  439. He writes to Christians in 1 and 2 Peter. And

  440. he starts telling them about salvation, about

  441. who Jesus is, what it means to follow Jesus.

  442. He tells them about the future, how the world

  443. is going to be destroyed by fire. He talks about

  444. all these different things. But just like John

  445. and Paul, he also speaks about these things as

  446. factual, as like, I'm telling you because it's

  447. true. But there's a moment. in which he points

  448. us out to Moses again, to origins, and to eschatology

  449. all at once. And he says this, guys, you have

  450. to remember that in the last times, there's going

  451. to be many people that will stop believing the

  452. word. And they deliberately will forget something.

  453. What will these people forget? That long ago,

  454. by God's word, the heavens came into being, and

  455. the earth was formed out of water and by water.

  456. Wait, wait a second. Are you talking about the

  457. writings of Moses? What does the Bible say that

  458. God created by speaking, and that he separated

  459. the waters from the waters? What does that say?

  460. Which book? Genesis. Which chapter? Peter is

  461. saying, look, I want to tell you something that

  462. Genesis 1 says. In the future, people won't believe

  463. it. And not only that, then he says, by these

  464. waters also the world of that time was deluged

  465. and destroyed. Wait, what are you talking about?

  466. Are you talking about the flood? Which book says

  467. that? Genesis, the writings of Moses. They are

  468. going to forget and stop believing that the world

  469. of that time was destroyed by water. And by the

  470. same word that destroyed that world by water,

  471. the present heavens and earth are reserved for

  472. fire being kept for the day of judgment and destruction

  473. of the ungodly. The same word. It's telling you

  474. that the past happened and the future is going

  475. to happen. And it happened because it's true

  476. and it's going to happen because it's true. But

  477. people are going to stop believing it, Peter

  478. says. Imagine, he wrote this at the very beginning

  479. of Christianity. And when I read that, it's like,

  480. wait, Peter, you are telling me that I need to

  481. believe what Genesis says? Because, no offense.

  482. Apostle Peter, but we live in a time of science.

  483. You didn't. So you were more likely to believe

  484. myths, but we know better today that those things

  485. didn't happen. Or did they? There was a Chinese

  486. scientist who studied science in China. and then

  487. went to the U .S. to get his Ph .D. His author

  488. name is Li Cheng. His actual real name is Bing

  489. Cheng Feng. And he wrote a book called The Song

  490. of a Wanderer. It was originally written in Chinese

  491. and then translated into English. And it was

  492. fascinating because as a Chinese scientist, he

  493. was an atheist, and when he moves to the U .S.,

  494. To do his Ph .D. He himself is an atheist scientist.

  495. But the difference in the U .S. is that he starts

  496. meeting all these Christians. And they start

  497. befriending him. They start talking to him about

  498. Jesus. They give him Bibles. He says, no, I don't

  499. believe in those fairy tales. You know, all that

  500. stuff. I'm a scientist. We know that Christians

  501. believe in myths. It will be ridiculous for me.

  502. As a highly educated scientist, to start believing

  503. the Bible and becoming a Christian? Of course

  504. not. So he spent years collecting the Bibles

  505. that people would give him. And one day he started

  506. attending a Bible study with his wife. And slowly

  507. he started realizing, wait, I never knew that.

  508. I never heard that. So he started engaging in

  509. his research as an atheist scientist. And he

  510. realized he had never read the Bible because

  511. he assumed all of this was wrong. But he started

  512. discovering that the history of science, most

  513. of the original scientists were Christians. And

  514. he couldn't understand why Christians would be

  515. smart like that. How could a scientist be a Christian?

  516. It didn't make any sense. So he writes, since

  517. I claim to be a scientist and scoffed at Christianity,

  518. it never dawned on me that the scientific method

  519. itself practiced today was actually developed

  520. by Christians. They believed that the one true

  521. God created the universe and that it had order

  522. and could be understood. And he realized that

  523. many of the scientists that shaped his understanding

  524. from past history, they themselves were Christians

  525. and that's why they became scientists. He had

  526. assumed that true science was atheist. So it

  527. was through that journey that eventually, just

  528. like the other guys, the evidence became compelling,

  529. compelling, compelling, and he himself became

  530. a Christian. And that's why he wrote the book,

  531. The Song of a Wanderer, to summarize his research

  532. as a good academician, you know, very systematically.

  533. This is what I discovered and this is what convinced

  534. me that Christianity was true. And then he shares

  535. his story of how he came to believe in Christ.

  536. Fascinating. There's another story that is even

  537. more fascinating to me. And that's an Australian

  538. academician as well, Dr. Ron Neller. He has a

  539. PhD in fluvial geomorphology. If that sounds

  540. like a mouthful, you never heard that title before,

  541. I hadn't until I learned about him. He is a scientist

  542. that specializes on studying how water affects

  543. the ground. That's basically it. There's a whole

  544. career for this. So he spent 30 years of his

  545. life in this career as an agnostic. He was a

  546. man that was taught to believe that the earth

  547. was billions of years old, that everything happened

  548. through slow erosion, and that God didn't exist,

  549. and that Darwinian evolution was true. That was

  550. his worldview as a scientist. So for 30 years

  551. of his career in research, He had the privilege

  552. of traveling the world. He was in Europe, he

  553. was in Asia, he was in Australia, he was in different

  554. places. So he got to experience the study of

  555. the geological record and the effect of water

  556. in all of these different countries during a

  557. season in which the satellite technology was

  558. being developed. So he was not only able to see

  559. lots of places in the world, but he was able

  560. to start seeing big sections from satellite imagery.

  561. And through that, he started realizing that the

  562. data that he was discovering did not match the

  563. worldview that he had been taught. And he started

  564. realizing that the data showed that there had

  565. been a catastrophic worldwide event damaged by

  566. water. And he started bringing up some of these

  567. things that he was discovering and the incongruency

  568. that this data was showing. In his academic context,

  569. and his friends would say, okay, that's all fine,

  570. but please don't go that route too much because

  571. you're starting to sound like a Christian. And

  572. then he read the Bible, and then he read that

  573. the Bible said that there was a global flood

  574. that had happened. And at that moment, he started

  575. realizing that, wait, this matches the evidence

  576. that I see. So he became a believer in the global

  577. flood and in the historicity of Genesis, but

  578. not a believer of Jesus. He was still an agnostic.

  579. God might exist. And he says that the resistance

  580. to follow Jesus was because he knew that going

  581. the extra mile and now becoming a Christian meant

  582. committing academic suicide. You cannot be a

  583. well -respected scientist. in the academia and

  584. be a Christian at the same time. So it was safe

  585. to remain an agnostic. So one day with a friend

  586. from university, they decided both, she was an

  587. atheist, they decided that they needed to disprove

  588. that Christianity was true by going to a church.

  589. So they decided to visit the church that day

  590. together to disprove Christianity. And at that

  591. moment, they come out of that service as Christians

  592. followers of Jesus. He says, I don't even remember

  593. what the pastor was preaching that day, but I

  594. had an encounter with the Holy Spirit that transformed

  595. my life. And from that point on, not only I became

  596. a Christian, my friend became a Christian, and

  597. not only that, but she became my wife. And today

  598. he works. now after his years of career for his

  599. career, he works part of a ministry called Creation

  600. Ministries. You can find their information in

  601. creation .com. But it's a group of scientists

  602. from lots of different fields that through scientific

  603. research and evidence started pointing them to

  604. the fact that what they read in Genesis was congruent

  605. with reality. And every one of these scientists

  606. have their own journey. But the journey is the

  607. same. They had a worldview that was challenged

  608. by the evidence. And the evidence corroborated

  609. what the Bible said. And that led them to eventually

  610. follow Jesus. Why? Because it is true. It was

  611. a group of geologists that came together. These

  612. were Christian geologists. So we need to let

  613. people know about the data that is on the geological

  614. record that shows the evidence that there was

  615. a global flood, a catastrophic event that shaped

  616. the landscape of the world. And they created

  617. this documentary called It's Genesis History,

  618. Mountains After the Flood. You can actually find

  619. it in YouTube and watch it for free. The reason

  620. why these things matter It's because in the search

  621. of wrestling with things and engaging with the

  622. Bible and taking it seriously, it's an invitation

  623. of engaging with truth. And truth is not an issue

  624. of opinion. Truth is about epistemology. It's

  625. the study of what is really true. Is this true

  626. or this is true? How do I know? Well, the way

  627. we know is because truth Is congruent with reality.

  628. And because the Bible is congruent with reality.

  629. Because Jesus is congruent with reality. Then

  630. we follow him because it's truth. There was an

  631. author that wrote a whole book on this topic.

  632. Total truth is the name of the book. Her name

  633. is Nancy Percy. If you are someone that is. If

  634. you consider yourself more like an intellectual,

  635. someone that is more in the academic world, someone

  636. that is into philosophy and concepts, history

  637. of ideas, this book is a must. It's the best

  638. book I've read. She does an amazing job of bringing

  639. the development of thought. It's a book of, I

  640. would call, like Christian philosophy, how the

  641. thought of worldview has developed. And to the

  642. point we are today and how Christians have to

  643. wake up to the fact that Christianity is not

  644. just an opinion about myths and potential religions

  645. that are all the same. Christianity has always

  646. been and remains a topic of truth. It's a worldview

  647. that we believe in because it is true. There's

  648. so much more to say. But this study will end

  649. here. Because what I wanted to share with you

  650. is this. In the spiritual journey of following

  651. Jesus, it requires that we engage with truth.

  652. That's the invitation of Jesus. And in that invitation,

  653. you at some point will wrestle with things that

  654. you don't understand. And that is okay. But in

  655. my journey, what I have discovered through my

  656. personal research, through the lessons of all

  657. the people that I have learned from, is that

  658. the Bible, I can trust it because it's true.

  659. I may not understand everything. There may be

  660. different interpretations about details here

  661. and there, but the Bible is not a myth. It's

  662. a record of history that you can trust. And you

  663. can build your life upon. And the Bible says

  664. that you and I are sinners. That God created

  665. us. He loves us. Jesus became a human so that

  666. he could pay for our sin. And give the way for

  667. us to experience salvation and freedom and relationship

  668. with God. And that to follow Jesus is the only

  669. way of walking in truth. Because Jesus is the

  670. truth. And therefore if you are seeking God.

  671. If you are in a journey of wanting to understand

  672. more. You are in the right place. Because here

  673. we want to walk with you. Creating safe spaces

  674. where you can engage with the wrestling. Because

  675. what we care about is truth. Truth that will

  676. set you free. If you are a child of Christian

  677. parents. Where you have grown up. Learning about

  678. the Bible and Jesus from birth. At some point

  679. maybe. You will question things. Maybe you will

  680. never question anything. But I'm here to tell

  681. you as someone that went through that journey.

  682. What you have received. Is truth. And you will

  683. have to engage in your own journey. But don't.

  684. Let go of the truth. You will meet people that

  685. will make you think that to be a follower of

  686. Jesus is to commit intellectual suicide. That

  687. you cannot be truly an intelligent person and

  688. be a follower of Jesus at the same time. And

  689. believe in the Bible at the same time. They are

  690. wrong. So here I am. telling you, encouraging

  691. you, grow in your relationship with God. Make

  692. the belief that you received your convictions.

  693. And whatever that journey takes you to, and whatever

  694. crisis you may experience, Jesus is with you

  695. through it all. And if we can help you in any

  696. way in that journey, we are here to walk with

  697. you. Not from a place of superiority, but with

  698. a place of humility. We know what it's like to

  699. wrestle. So I'm going to invite you to stand

  700. up with me. And I want to ask you, if you're

  701. in a place where you perhaps are facing doubts

  702. about God, about the Bible, about following Jesus,

  703. pray to the Lord what this man told Jesus. I

  704. believe, help my unbelief. Meet me in this place

  705. of doubt Lord. And lead me into all truth. Because

  706. I know you care about truth. And that's what

  707. I want. Lord I pray in the name of our Lord Jesus.

  708. That you will guide us. And protect us from the

  709. attacks of the enemy. That you will also protect

  710. us from deception. That you will protect us from

  711. falsehood. But lead us into truth. I ask you

  712. Lord for my friends. Who are in that place of

  713. wrestling. Help them wrestle. Don't rush their

  714. journey. Let them wrestle for as long as they

  715. have to. Until that journey brings conviction.

  716. Because it is conviction Lord. That will bring

  717. the power for the future you have for them. And

  718. for those of us. Who have children. Help us lead

  719. them in a way that invites understanding. Give

  720. us wisdom to know how to teach them your ways.

  721. Thank you for your truth that has set us free.

  722. We love you and we pray in the powerful name

  723. of Jesus. Amen. If God is calling you to support

  724. our ministries, you will find giving options

  725. on our website. And remember to join us next

  726. week. God bless you.