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Road To Emmaus: Noah

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  1. Jevon Martin: Alright. Check check. Test test. Yeah, looks like the mics are good. one thing I was thinking about, sorry no we're on recording here, but that's good. ⁓ one thing I was thinking about is that it might be cool too at some point to get like take one on one videos of like We have people at our church watching these things. What if we put blurbs in there for some of our ministries? Like that we put slides up front. Like click and ad, but for the church at some point. I don't know if that'd be I don't know. Anyway. Yeah. ⁓ this ⁓ this podcast today is sponsored by Vacation Bible School. Yeah. All right. All right. All right. Cool. Let me get Yeah, I think so. Hey guys, once again I am Pastor Jesse Nope. Yeah, feel free to do that. Ready? All right. Hey guys, once again, I am Jesse. This is Javon. And we're coming to you from Waterway Church. We are talking about ⁓ all of the different ways that the Old Testament points forward to the New Testament, specifically how the people and events and characters of the Old Testament point forward to Jesus, talking about types and shadows and all that kind of stuff. Today we are talking about Noah. ⁓ Noah could have been a series of sermons on his own. We decided not to go that direction this time, but ⁓ we still wanted to talk about him because there's a lot. In story of Noah, the things that he does, the things that happen to him, the things that happen around him that point forward not just to Jesus but to some other ideas in the New Testament as well as some other events and things that happen in the Old Testament. So ⁓ today we're looking at Noah. This is my guide sheet right here. So if you see me looking down, it's because there's just too many things to all keep track of, too many things to remember. Yeah, does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. This is my guide, not throwing any. My paper down here too, so I just dig into it all together. So we're looking at Genesis. ⁓ chapters chapter six through chapter nine of Genesis are the main accounts of Noah, although you see Noah referenced a lot through the rest of scripture in both the Old Testament and the New Testament. ⁓ but one of the big pieces that always sticks out to me, and again, we'll hit a bunch of minor ones here too. But one of the major ones is that Noah and his family are delivered from judgment in the ark. Through water, right? I mean, water is it comes down from the sky, the earth opens up, and water comes up from the deep. And we also know that then there's the flood that lasts for so long that they've got you know months and months and months and months for the earth to recover from this flood. Noah and his family are delivered through water. As this event unfolds, which points forward to Jesus Christ and Jesus' call, He of course was baptized with water, and we are called to be baptized with water when we believe in Jesus Christ. And that's a big part of our identity here at Waterway, is that it's part of our name, right? I mean, there's waterway here, but also as we do church, you know, when people believe in Jesus Christ, we encourage them to get baptized. And so there's a salvation that doesn't happen by the water, it's not the water that saves us, but salvation has happens and then through the water that's kind of a marker of what's going on. Which if you think about it, like the boat, I mean maybe this is what you're saying exactly, but like the water did not save Noah. Right. The Ark did. Right. Right. All the people in the water Died. The water died. And and and just the the same way, you know, the water didn't save Jesus. He didn't need saving. The water doesn't save us, but we're kind of brought through it by Jesus Christ, you know, who's maybe connected there. And so I thought that was really interesting. I mean, that's the big one that pops up to me as I study the Old Testament, thinking about how Noah connects to Jesus. Now, in our discussion before the meeting today, you were talking about a passage in Peter that I hadn't caught before. Yeah, so first Peter ⁓ chapter three, and ⁓ you start verse 19. So after being Made alive, that's that's Christ. He went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits, to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built, and it only a few people, eight and all, were saved through water. And this water symbolizes baptism and now saves you also. I I think it's so cool how ⁓ I was talking to you about this earlier, like Peter, when he reads the ark account, just Like, ⁓ baptism. Like that clicks for him. Right. And Like we we often read the Old Testament, I think, and the New Testament as disconnected realities. But they are two in like these writers in the New Testament, they grew up on the Old Testament. And they had a much better understanding than than I think we do today of the Old Testament, what it has has to say. And it's just interesting to me how Peter is like he is just obvious to him. And he specifically says that, right? Right, yes. The water of baptism is a symbol of no, or is it the other way around? And the water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also. Not the removal of dirt from the body, but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by, and this is what you were talking about, like it he says we're saved through water, but it's not water that saves us, right? He clarifies here, he says it saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, who has gone into heaven in his right hand, ⁓ and is at God's right hand. So, yeah, I just I think we need to be careful that as we read the Old Testament, and it's part of what we're doing here with the Jesus thing, is that We should be looking for the ways that the New Testament connects to the Old, because it can give us so many insights into what's going on in the Old Testament. Because sometimes these stories are just I mean, it is a little strange, this whole like flood story. It's a little odd. Like what what is going on? but yeah, I just I love how the New Testament and the Old Testament are are inter interconnected and well. And that comes from First Peter's First Peter chapter three. Chapter three. Verse 19 is where you start. And so that's a really good reminder. Hey, as you are studying your Bibles, as you are listening to teachers or preachers, whether that's Javon or myself here at Waterway, whether that's another pastor that you like to listen to, or set a podcast, or a set of teachers ⁓ who are important to you, ⁓ just a couple basics remember for your biblical interpretation. If there is something difficult in scripture, one of the first things that you do to try to sort through. That is to find other scriptures that speak to that. I find it especially helpful if the Old Testament is very difficult. What does the New Testament say? Because sometimes there is a New Testament interpretation of that, just like Peter gives for Genesis. So that's a really good catch there, Jabon. also understanding that if we've got a Bible passage that's difficult to sort out, recognize that we have the Holy Spirit in us, and so we should be praying to God and ask God for his interpretation. But not just on our own. I mean, one of our core values here at Waterway, one of our historically core values as Mennonites is that we're not even just reading the Bibles by ourselves. Important as that is, we are also studying the Bible together. And so as believers, with the Holy Spirit in us and with our Bibles open in front of us, we can come together and say, hey, this is a difficult passage. I don't quite get it. Or I see some things. What do you guys see? ⁓ those kind of things I think can really open us up to understand more of the scripture, be careful whenever you've got a couple of guys on a podcast or even guys that are preaching and teaching, guys and gals that are that are trying to tell you what the Bible means. Make sure that you're checking it up with other people at church. Make sure you're checking with God in your prayers. And also the Bible. A little commercial there, I guess, for just good hermeneutics, which is ⁓ how we understand the Bible. So what we hit water, right? Mm-hmm. A couple of other things that I saw that popped out. ⁓ First, the ark is made of cypress wood. That's what we're told in the scriptures. And ⁓ tradition and legend kind of carries that cypress was one of the woods that may have been used in the cross. So again, that's not like super duper close, but it kind of points forward that you know this wood of deliverance, ark and cross. ⁓ along the same lines, we've got some of the material used in the ark to seal it up was pitch, right? What is pitch, Javon? Do you know exactly what pitch is? Do you know what I don't ⁓ Than it's probably obviously some substance they used to keep stick things together. So there's something you can study this week. What is pitch exactly? But I'll tell you, it goes back to the Hebrew word kafar. Okay, this is in Genesis 6:14. Goes back to the Hebrew word keffar, which is often later translated as atonement. So the pitch that holds the ark together is also kind of a word play on the word for atonement. ⁓ the ark atoned for or helped to cover over those who were inside, just as Jesus. blood is an atonement for our sins. That's kind of cool. You know, I'm not a Hebrew expert. He is. I'm not a Hebrew expert. Growing to be. Growing to be. But ⁓ but the pitch again some word study stuff kind of points together that that even in the time of Noah in Genesis 6, 7, 8, pointing forward to Jesus Christ ⁓ coming later. ⁓ while we're talking about the ark itself, the ark was the only refuge for people of the time to be rescued. Jesus is the only salvation for people to be rescued from sin and hell. ⁓ it rained for 40 days and 40 nights. We see 40 days coming up in the New Testament. That's when Jesus was tempted in the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights. And so there are a lot of parallels there. What are some of the other ones that pop out? After the flood was over, Noah sent out a dove to see if the world Was in good enough shape to see if the earth was in good enough shape for people to live on. Jesus, of course, is the Prince of Peace, symbolized by a dove. Yeah. Look like a dove when the Holy Spirit came down upon him in in in the New Testament. And so a lot of these little parallels that pop up from Noah to Jesus, Noah to the New Testament. Well, and going back to this, the the idea of the Ark and how it symbolizes salvation in Jesus, ⁓ think about how like Noah This is just coming to my head now. As as Noah was building the ark, people were judging him for that. Like that is so foolish. Like he's like, rain's gonna come. And I I just think of and this would have taken years. Like he was building the ark for years, probably decades, maybe even close to a century, if my if my timeline is correct. So thinking about that like for us though, like as we evangelize, as we talk to people. Same thing, right? We because of God's word, we know that the king will return. We know that there's coming a day and th and it will be a separation between those who are saved and who are not. And we proclaim that to the world and we get the same kind of pushback. Like what you're living your life for this for God. What are you doing? Like what is he even real, right? That's what people ask. I I just find that interesting, that relationship between Noah building the ark and us and how we build our lives. Around this faith in Jesus and how people also ridicule and criticize us for that too. Well, they ridicule and criticize us until things come to such a point where they realize their own need for salvation. And and I mean that maybe we're kind of stretching things here, or or maybe I'm stretching to connect that with another idea. But for both the time of Noah and the time of Jesus, there is kind of a limited time offer here, too. Right. Right? Right. I mean, in both cases, they're building and building and building. Jesus' life is happening, Noah is. Building the ark. People are ridiculing them. People ridicule us. But there comes a time when God says, Okay, no more. Noah animals get in the ark, we're gonna seal it and it's gonna start to rain. Right. There comes a time when God's gonna say no more. And Jesus Christ is going to return and then everyone's gonna have to answer for what they've done. I mean, there's a limited time thing going on here that ⁓ Again, another parallel, it's not just ⁓ well forever and ever people can stay wishy washy, even though it feels like that to us sometimes 'cause we feel like time is stretching over. Right, and I I just imagine too, like, I don't know, if I was a guy living in Noah's time and there's this dude that seemed crazy that was building an arc telling me that rain was gonna come and flood the whole earth, ⁓ and then it started to rain. Right. Yeah. It started to rain and then it it kept raining. And then it kept raining. And all of a sudden, like there is floods and I can see the arc. Like it i a kind of a graphic image and I it's supposed to be that way, right? This gr a kind of a graphic image in my mind of like wanting to enter into that door, but it's closed. It's done. Right. And and the judgment is coming. It's final. It's over. And ⁓ I think, yeah. You you make me think of the centurion who was at the cross of Christ, and I think it was right after they pierced him in the side and the water came out. Do you remember the centurion said, Truly this man was the Son of God? ⁓ there gets to be a time where even kind of the powers that be realize what is true and what is real. Now that centurion still had time to repent. And Don't know if he did. I pray that he did. you know we still have and all the people we talk to still have time to repent. ⁓ Yeah, it's a good reminder. It's a good reminder that when we realize the truth, let's let's be humble and come before the Lord. Let's remind other people they can be humble and and always come to the Lord for their salvation as well. So to take us on a different bunny trail. Bonnie trails. Like it. Yeah. So so I was looking up something ⁓ this this past weekend about the story of Noah. And it it kinda it struck me and I thought I'd share with you guys and ⁓ see if see if it's interesting to you as well. So we talked about can Cain and Abel and how Cain killed his brother Abel. And then there was a third son mentioned later that Eve had Seth. And in the line of Cain, after he kills Abel, Cain is banished, right? And we get this, in chapter four, we get this like peak into Cain's family. And this is Genesis chapter four. This is Genesis chapter four, yeah. Okay. Good point. ⁓ so in Genesis chapter 4, about verse 19, we get introduced this character named Lamech, who's a son of Cain. And Lamech boasts that he I've killed a man for wounding me, a young man for injuring me. If Cain is avenged 70 times, then Lamech is 77 times. This just kind of bloodthirsty warrior, right? Is this picture we get? And then you get in chapter. Chapter five, this list of genealogy that goes down to Noah, and then you have this wicked world. So kind of just think about Lamech, and now we this wicked world. Lamech, wicked world. Right, yeah, that that's going on. and then God sends his flood to judge. ⁓ all the descendants of Cain are wiped out, right? Right. I yes, right. ⁓ because it would be Noah and his family, which would be a different a different line. So one of the things too, Cain and Abel, their story starts off with a sacrifice. After being banished from the garden, there's a there's a sacrifice. What does Noah do after he is saved from the flood? He puts up a sacrifice. There's a sacrifice, yeah. Then he has three sons. So Cain has Cain has three sons. Well Adam has Adam has three sons. Cain is one of them. We end up with Leme. Now we've got Noah, he's got three sons. Right. Shem, Ham, and Joheth. And Japheth, maybe. I'm sorry, I should have had That name in front of me. But so he has three sons and ⁓ Ham, who's we are told is a father of Cain, which is also giving us foreshadowing. he When Noah after the flood is drunk and naked, lying there in his bed, he sees his father's nakedness and Ham does. ⁓ huh. And that that was wrong. It was sinful of him. And he's judged. And then he has we get a lineage, his lineage, again, kinda like Cain, we get a glimpse into Ham's lineage. And he has a son named Nimrod, who is known as a great warrior. And from Nimrod comes the Tower of Babel story. Okay. Which at the end of that we get another judgment where God scatters the people. Mm-hmm. Then So there's no there's no judgment by water again, because God said he would not do that. However, there is a judgment of scattering people and messing up their language. Right, exactly. Okay. And then the interesting thing is then we get this lineage again, and we get three sons. We get this man named Terah, who has three sons, Abram and Haran, and I even blanket on the third son's name. But he has three sons. And there again the the the pattern of three sons and you get from ⁓ Haran you get Lot. And Lot ends up in Sodom and Gomorrah. And there's after the whole thing of water raining down, mm-hmm. The second time the Bible talks about something, God causing something to rain down on earth is the judgment of Sodom and Gomorrah and the fire song. Right. So we get this reality. There's and that's the Hebrew Bible, when it Hebrew Bible meaning Old Testament. When it goes into details for us, like we get these lineages and we get these little stories, like even like Enoch, it there's a reason for it. The author felt there was a reason to bring that out. And so the author of the the Torah, which we believe to be Moses. When he's writing this along with the inspiration of the Holy Scri ⁓ Holy Spirit, or inspired by the Holy Spirit rather, you know, they're they're bringing out details and there are patterns that are intentional in the Old Testament that point towards things. And I think that, you know, you get this idea of just the cyclic nature of humanity's sin. This a problem we cannot escape, pointing towards the need for a savior. Right. And I just it's interesting to me how. There are these patterns just in the Old Testament. So anyway, I I I heard that this weekend. I thought that was really interesting. I thought I'd share it with together. That's quality, man. That is some deep dive kind of stuff. I mean, when we're talking about Cain and his sons, and then we talk about Ham and his sons, and we end up with talking about Sodom, we end up talking about judgment. None of that stuff is specifically pointing towards Jesus Christ, our Messiah. But so interesting how that all connects for us to help deepen our potential understanding for all of the events that are driving at this story that God is telling us through the Old Testament and the New Testament. Right. Good stuff. Good stuff. Well, I hope that gives you a little bit of curiosity to continue to dig into your Bible. You see, especially, I mean, we're not even out of the first dozen chapters of Genesis yet. And we're already pointing to all these ideas of how it connects with Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, and then as we think about how it connects to the Gospels and the New Testament. Good stuff. Anything else that we need to point out today before we get going? Yeah, I would say, like, as as you're pointing at, like, we're we're doing this to give breadcrumbs, mm-hmm, go dig into it yourself. Like go into your Bible and and dig into it and ask us. We're we're your pastors. We're we're here to take questions and and and talk to you about these things. So if you listen to this podcast you're like, ⁓ I just I wanna understand that better, I wanna look into that, I encourage you to do so. ⁓ Give a call, shoot a text, send an email, or set up an appointment, we'll have some coffee and talk about it all together. And if a lot of you want to talk about it, well then there's an idea for another Sunday school class or another Bible school. Yes, there you go. ⁓ because this stuff, as we study the Bible together, there are a lot of things that are pretty direct and cut and dry, but there are other things that are difficult for us to see unless we're studying together and really diving in. And that's why we're doing these podcasts. That's why we preach on Sunday. So Javon, it's good to be with you. Hey folks, good to be with too. Thanks for taking time to check us out. Tell your friends. We'll see you next time, hopefully, here on Sunday at Waterway Church. Blessings to you. All right. I should've ended I should've ended looking at the camera. I'm looking at y I looked at you. So you're looking at the camera, I'm smiling at you. All right. What happened over there? So how long was that? We looked at about twenty minutes. Twenty minutes. Plus we had a minute or two at the beginning. So we're between fifteen and twenty

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