Sermon
Kingdom 1st Business Alliance - November 2025 with Rev. Randy Clay
Publisher transcript
Transcript
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All right, I'm excited this subject tonight and some things
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and I dug in my archive and found a tool that I'm going to
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hand out to each of you and just explain it a little bit.
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One that I've used proficiently made me seriously millions of
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dollars, OK over the years that once I got involved in it in the
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early 90s. And so I'm, I'm excited to share
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that. But let's go ahead and pray and
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then we'll just, we'll get into a little bit of a lesson.
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Father, we thank you and praise you in Jesus name.
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That is, we get together in our once a month opportunity to just
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impart some things that we need to think about and maybe, you
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know, focus on for a little bit or, or fine tune or tweak.
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And, and you know, in the operations, we have the
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development of systems and, and the things that you've got for
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us, We just thank you and praise that in Jesus name that you'd
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assist us and help us because we know that relying on you is the
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only way to succeed in anything that we are doing, because that
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was the plan that you had, that we would be dependent upon you
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helping us fulfill the destiny that you have for us to fulfill.
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So we praise you and thank you tonight for the outcome and, and
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what we'll be discussing and we'll give you thanks in Jesus
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name, Amen. I want you to jot this down.
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However you're taking notes or whatever.
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Somebody's missing a computer, man, what's going on?
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OK, and I want one thing is when we talk about sales, OK, I
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learned a philosophy about sales years ago.
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I was struggling in business and most of you that have read my
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book know that I, you know, I had a, an employment problem.
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Hey, sis, and I had employment problem and I had to, I had to
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remove somebody from my organization and it was one of
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the hardest things that I ever had to do.
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And you know, somebody recommended that I read a book
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and I did. And I, you know, I didn't read
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books. I hate books.
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I, I, I wouldn't read them. And matter of fact, all through
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high school, I lucked out and I was able to read one book as a
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as a freshman and did the same book report all the other years
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till I graduated and nobody ever found out about it.
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And it was one book, little bitty thin book.
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Did a book report all my English classes, didn't have to do
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anything else, didn't have to read.
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And so anyway, I, you know, somebody recommended you need to
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read this book and, and most of you, you know, it was, it was
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the book called Swim with the Sharks Without Being Eaten Alive
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by Harvey McKay. He was the number one bestseller
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for over a year with that book on the New York Times bestseller
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list. And his story on how he did it
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was phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal.
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I don't I'm not going to go through the time of that
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tonight. But I also heard another one,
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number one best selling author that had come to me.
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And I want you to jot this phrase down.
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It's it's people don't care. People don't care how much you
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know until they know how much you care, right?
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And when we talk about sales and we talk about, you know,
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developing relationships and and developing relationships where
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people are wanting to part with their money for something that
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you have to offer. All right, it's going to be
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something a little deeper than just a financial exchange in the
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Kingdom of God. Why is that?
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Because I'd hate to think that I did a transaction with somebody
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that was not a believer in God and see them on the white, you
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know, white throne judgement, the day of the white throne
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judgement. And them asked me said you never
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said nothing. OK, so that tells us as a
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Kingdom citizen, there's something a little more deeper
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than just being a good salesperson, OK.
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And so one of the things that I learned, and I'm going to tell
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you stories that some of you have heard before is, you know,
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and and one of the most important things, and we've seen
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that in the information age that we're now in is that data
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collection. All right.
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And she don't bother me. I mean, and Sheila, she's
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missing with you. Pastors trained me well, OK, If
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she's saying something, she might have something to say.
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I don't know. OK, all right, if and if the
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rest of your boogered out by it, I don't, I can't help you after
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all these years, right? We we all kind of sit on the
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side where it's happening, you know, OK, so when we when we
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talk about the the the relationship and the thing that
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intrigued me about Harvey McKay was he was a Jew, OK?
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So immediately when I heard that, I thought, well, you know,
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he's got a covet. He may not or may or may not
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know about that. God's going to bless him.
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Welcome to find out. He didn't know about it, but he
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had a secretary that I got to know via the phone that was a
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Christian. And she would tell me when we,
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you know, I let her know and I asked her questions about him.
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You know, I said, is he a believer?
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No, he's not not in in the Messiah.
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He's not a believer in Jesus. But he is Jewish and he attends
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synagogue and the different things like that.
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She goes, let's just pray for him, OK?
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And I said, that's great. Well, the dude's in his 90s now
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and all he does is play golf. Because I, I, after it was
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probably about 15 years ago when Melanie had the brain aneurysm
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rupture. I called Harvey's office to see
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if he had a particular doctor that he could recommend that I
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could get her to. And they said not for
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neurological sciences and stuff like that.
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He didn't have, well, I hadn't talked to them in 15 years.
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OK, well, 2006, that's almost 20 years.
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I called him the other day and I said, hey, Greg.
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And, and he's chief of staff. All right.
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And I go, this is Randy Clay. And he says, you sound like
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Randy Clay. I said, you Remember Me?
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And he goes, who can forget you, man?
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And I told him what I needed, because what I was going to do
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is I was going to bless the students that I was teaching in
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Washington with a set of his books signed.
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OK. And and so they, they got those
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to me and, and, and we had that. But you know, knowing that he
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had that. And when I read his book for the
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first time, the question that I had in myself is, Lord, there's
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something in this book that has a, a, a spiritual flair about
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it. What is it?
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And the Lord told me He said He has learned the Golden Rule to
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do unto others as He would have them, and did it so proficiently
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that He has seen profit because of it.
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And you know what blew my mind about him?
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He's an envelope manufacturer. He makes envelopes.
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Did you hear me when I first started reading after him?
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And, and, and I would call his office every year.
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Is Harvey going to be here, you know, doing a speech at any
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university in Oklahoma, which I would have gone to.
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And he goes, no, not this year and he's not going to come this
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year. All right.
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At that, when that that time started, he was doing $40
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million in envelopes. You know how many envelopes
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that's got to be? I mean, they're pennies.
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Envelopes are pennies, and he's doing $40 million.
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Well, I'm, I'm, I'm cruising with him in the early 90s.
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All of a sudden, e-mail shows up.
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I was alive when e-mail showed up. e-mail shows up and I
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thought, what's he going to do? We don't need no more envelopes.
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Fax machines came before e-mail. And I said, you know, you get a
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fax machine. Why do you need to e-mail?
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I mean, an envelope for anything.
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All right, he was sharp enough to know where the envelope
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business was and guess where he found it?
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Credit cards, full color printing, advertising in them,
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the whole bit. Now his business is over 100
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million. OK, and I'm and I'm scratching
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around trying to make a sticker, you know, and this dude is 100
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million and he ended up a guy that came to work for him.
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He sold him the business and the guy wanted to keep him in in the
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arena stock and the chairman and the whole bit.
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So Harvey still got a job. All right, but it's a McKay
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Mitchell envelope now and he he tells the story.
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All right. Well, one of the things that he
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had in his first book was Harvey and McKay short course on sales.
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And when I read that, I that was where I got, I said this dude
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has figured it out as far as how to treat people.
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All right, Seth, come here and just hand these out.
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Everybody can have one. I made enough for everybody.
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This is called the McKay 66 customer profile.
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All right, and it's 4 pages. I used it proficiently, all
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right, because I thought it was the best thing I'd heard of at
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the point at that time. And it's very, very interesting
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because he is the one that coined the phrase.
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It's more important to know something.
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Listen to me. It's more important to know
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something about your customer than it is to know everything
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about your service or product. It's more important to know
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something about your customer than it is to know everything
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about your service or product. And man, I latched on to that
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because I said, you know what? When it comes down to being a
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citizen of the Kingdom, we need to know more about people then
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we knew we do our product and finding out what makes them
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tick. How can we get to them?
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How do we get an opportunity to present the gospel right?
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Because we have something and we don't have to sell it.
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Even though, you know, Doctor Mary Francis.
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Mary Francis, that's where I say has two first names.
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You know what I mean? Mary Francis, I'd be like my
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Mama, call me Randall Allen, I guess.
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And you know, and, and listen to her how she, she ministered to
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people with the $100 bill. Did you hear about that?
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Give them $100 bill. Can I pray the sinner's prayer
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with you? You know, I thought that's that
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easy. I didn't.
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Well, I should have got $100 bill.
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And but, you know, when we talk about, we talk about, you know,
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the way that that we, we develop relationships with people is
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important that they know we care more about them than we do our
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product. Because I don't go into
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businesses in the days that I was building the company.
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And even in the real estate business, Melanie and I have,
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we're not what we don't go in and think, OK, they're worth
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this much. They're worth that much to me.
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Oh, they're worth that much to me.
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I mean, God would slap that to the ground, you know, because
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we're not paying attention to who they are.
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And so I, you know, there's 6666 questions and I love his story
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when he talks about it. That's why he calls it them 666
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bits of information that you need to go and look, he talks
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about customer information. He wants to know things that all
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of us would want to know. All right, you know, business
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phone, anything. And I thought it was funny
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because one time I was teaching this to a sales group and they
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said, So what do you do? You go in there, you take them
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to lunch and you start asking questions and fill out the form.
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No, dummy, not in front of them, you know, he said.
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You know, you this is, this isn't a we get all we can the
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first time we meet, all right? It's kind of like a dating
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relationship. You don't everybody spill their
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guts, you know, on what's going on in their lives.
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All right, while we're on our first date, that could cause
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some problems, all right, but it, but you, you use this as a
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collecting item now, you know, I, I narrowed mine down to a
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Rolodex card and had Rolodex cards with some of this data
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that I wanted to remember, especially when I was flipping
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through it. He came up with a program called
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Sharkware and he didn't, he's somebody else did, said Harvey.
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We can convert all this to digital if you want.
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And he did and it was awesome. I bought it and, and, and it was
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just all digital. It'd give you reminders who had
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the birthday today, who had the anniversary today, you know, but
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you find out. And he said, he said, I know
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more about my customers than the IRS does just from this little
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questionnaire because it has everything, educational
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information. The next thing on the bottom,
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family information, you know, I'll tell you how I used that
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information in one particular time, business background.
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You want to find out. And you know what is most of
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that I used in scanning an office?
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He said you got to become proficient reading upside down,
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OK, you got to be, you know, you kind of, you got to, you got to,
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got to figure out, OK, reading upside down, what are we, what
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are we doing? And, and then he said special
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interest that they had anything political, you know, their
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lifestyle. You see lists of things there.
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Then you turn the page over to the back one and the customer
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and you and he's just talking about, but what you're doing is
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you're getting information to find out where there's a
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connection. We do that.
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I do that every Sunday. I'm talking to people.
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And if I, I see somebody and I don't go to all those that love
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me, you know, and, and hang out with him for a little while and
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go stand up next to the wall with him.
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I don't do that, you know, I'm looking for.
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I don't, I've never seen that face ever.
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And I go over there and I introduce myself to him and, and
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and and I go back to my seat and I write their name in my phone.
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OK, so that if I see him again, you know, and there's one
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particular, they introduced me to him and, you know, I thought
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I need to remember this man, you know, So I went over there and
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wrote his name down and, and I saw him again.
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The next service called him by name, you know, and said, hey,
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man, I'm so glad it is. What is this?
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Is this #4 #5 you know, and, and you're, you're listening to
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people to find out, you know, where is it?
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Where is it that, you know, on the planet now that we've met,
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that we can connect? You know, and I've had I've had
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so many opportunities. The one is the my favorite and I
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wrote about it is, is basically the all about them lunch.
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That was the title of my chapter.
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And what I did was there was a company and it was 1 oak in
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Oklahoma. They were an oil gas company and
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they had a, they had a safety director and somebody had told
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me, Oh yeah, you gotta go over at 1 Oak and 1 Oak's big.
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My father-in-law worked in that building for, for years.
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And, and they said, yeah, they've got a new and this is
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his name, stuff like that. And I just, I sent him an e-mail
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or a, you know, call him and ask him and said, Hey, would you be
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willing to go to lunch? It's Randy Clay and with USA
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sign decal. And he said, yeah, man, I'll go
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to lunch with you, you know? And so we went to lunch and we
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just had a great conversation. Now, I got one of these sitting
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in the car and I'm going to try to get some information just to
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get to know him. So, you know, and here's the
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thing. I didn't sit there and tell them
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all about my stuff and how good of a product I had and that, you
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know. Have you ever bought one of
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these? And how did it work out?
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Because ours does this. And I not one time mentioned
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anything about what we did. I just started to question,
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where are you from? He said, Liberty, Kansas.
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I go, oh, really? Up there close to Kansas City,
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right. He goes, yeah.
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And then I just, I got kept asking question after question.
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Found out he was a big Kansas City Chief fan.
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Fan when Kansas City was 0. Pitiful, you know, made a note
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of that, you know, and I was listening to him.
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He said he had two girls that were, you know, into sports.
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And he said, oh, as a matter of fact, my wife and I next week
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are celebrating our 10th wedding anniversary.
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And I said, well, that's awesome.
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And he said, yeah, we found a little bed and breakfast outside
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of Oklahoma City and we're going to stay.
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Really. What I said, you know, I said my
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wife and I, you know, I've heard about all these bed and
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breakfasts and stuff. What's the name of it?
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And he told me the Armada or something and, and I said, OK,
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that's great. You know, and, and so, you know,
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I'm, I'm doing the best to keep all this information in my head.
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And I get into the car and I fill out, I start filling out
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some stuff on him because I'm going to create a file,
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obviously. And so, you know, the main thing
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is, is when I got back, I said, I got an idea and I, I called, I
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called and found this, this bed and breakfast.
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And I asked him, I said, would you, could you tell me?
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And you know, it's no big deal. We parted.
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I, I took him back to the office.
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I picked him up from the office, took him back to the office.
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Still didn't tell him nothing about, you know, USA Design,
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didn't even mention it. OK.
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And so I get back to the office. I call the bed and breakfast and
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I said, do you all have a like, a florist or a basket maker or
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something that makes, you know, gift baskets and stuff close to
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you All's bed and breakfast? They said, yeah, we use this one
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company all the time. And I said, can I have the
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number? Gave me the number.
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I gave them a credit card. And I told them I said a really
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a really nice basket and I want you to deliver it to that bed
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and breakfast, OK, With their name on it for me.
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OK, no problem. Credit card done.
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OK. I didn't hear from the guy for a
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couple of weeks and when he called me, he uses colorful
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language, OK. And I, you know, I no big deal
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there. I said, you know, and he said I
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thought it was from the bed and breakfast And my wife pulled the
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card off of it after we'd eaten on it a couple of days and, and,
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and said, do you know of Randy Clay?
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And he ran over to give me that and he looked at it.
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He goes, my God, we thought we what, how did you what you know,
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the whole bit and, and I'll never forget, you know, all of a
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sudden, you know, after that whole bit, well, you know, 10's
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a big deal, 10 years is a big deal.
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And, and I wanted you guys to have a good time and hopefully
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you enjoyed that. He said we did, man.
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He said, but I just couldn't believe it.
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But he said, can you come down to the office?
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Because I've got some things that I need to talk to you about
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in some product we need to buy. And then, you know, as a matter
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of fact, I can't tell you that had to be early 2002 thousand 25
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years ago. He called me the other day.
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He said you've heard I took another job and I said I have.
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And I said you're closer to me. And he said, he said, well, he
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said I'm trying to get you on the vendors list here because
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everywhere he moved after One Oak, he got me on the vendors
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list and list and want to do business with me.
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I can't tell you how many hundreds of thousands of dollars
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I did with this one guy. And it was a lunch and a basket.
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Best marketing deal I ever did. Cheapest and the most rewarding,
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you know, but I showed. But our relationship went on and
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on after that because he had a couple of girls and they grew up
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and they were playing softball in high school.
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And he said, hey, can you make some stickers for their team?
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And the whole bit, yes, Sir, no charge.
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OK. And and and and then I found out
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that he was in a horrible car wreck.
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And I said, why didn't you call me?
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You know, I said, I apologize that, you know, I hadn't checked
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in with you. You were in a car wreck.
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He almost died from the car wreck.
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And he said, yeah, it's pretty. I said you look good, though.
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And he said, he said, I'm, I'm rehabbing, you know, and, and
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the whole bit. Well, he ended up moving from
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Enid, OK? He moved to, I believe it was
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Louisiana. And he couldn't stand it.
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He didn't like the culture. He didn't like it.
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So he looked for another job and and he found one in Mississippi
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and, you know, wanting me to, you know, to cater to their
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company and take care of it. But if I hadn't changed my
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mentality and this is before I knew about the Kingdom, but if I
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hadn't changed my mentality on that guy's worth a lot of bucks
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to me and really get to know him as a person and spend time with
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him. And we went to lunch frequently.
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I mean, I, I met him at Charleston's one time and he
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came into town for Enid. He was in Enid, OK was his next
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job after he left 1 Oak. He went to Enid, OK and went to
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work for a company called Highland Oil and Gas.
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And he said, man, I'm going to be in Tulsa today.
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Can you meet me for lunch? Absolutely.
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I mean, I, it was weird. I didn't have anything to do.
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I met him for lunch. We and he had a couple of guys
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with him and just had a great, you know, great time catching up
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with the kids and the girls and the wife and the whole bit, you
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know, and, and and didn't talk about decal stickers, safety,
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nothing. OK, just say people, you know,
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they want to be they have a I'm looking for those that have a
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life outside of where they work because I'm going to show them
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an additional part of that life when it comes to being able to
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share the gospel or to get now, you know, everybody calls me Rev
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OK, and it seems nowadays. All right, so hey, Rev, what do
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you think of this? Hey, Rev, what do you think of
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that? All right, so everybody knows
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I'm a Rev all right. And I, and so that brings a
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whole new level. But I, I'm excited about it
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because it gives me a better opportunity to visit, you know,
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and, and, and talk to people because they know how I'm going
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to respond. It's kind of automatic now.
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It's interesting. But when, when I go through
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there, another thing with, with Kent, I was in an airport and I,
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I don't remember, you know, what trip it was.
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And I think it's a speaking engagement.
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I think it was when I was in Miami and flew down to Miami and
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there was a particular, it's called Moto Photo and it was a
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studio photo studio back in the day where you take your kids,
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your dog, whatever you wanted. And they had a a storefront
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where they took photographs and stuff professionally done and
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the whole deal. Well, somebody was at a meeting
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that heard me speak and they went and told the president of
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the company and they flew me down to Miami to do do the
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program that I had called The Great Life, which I showed you
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guys in my box, OK. And the president said he was so
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funny. He said, man, I've heard her.
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Harvey McKay. I think you're better than
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Harvey McKay speaking. I started laughing.
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I said, man, you know, I said, I appreciate that.
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I'm probably cheaper too, aren't I?
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And he goes, he goes, man. He said at the, at the, the
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round table that we had with all of our, you know, company
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owners, they said this guy knows more of what we're going through
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a small business than anybody you've ever had.
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And it was just simple things because I had just four points
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that I wanted is 1. If you're going to be a success
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in your business, you're going to need to be a problem solver.
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If you can't solve problems, you're in trouble because a lot
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of business that I've seen is, has its set of problems.
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And the second thing I said, if you're also going to be
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successful, you're going to have to be a self starter.
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We can't wait till everybody come in here and go over here
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and do this, do this. You've got to look in the room
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and say that needs to be done, that needs to be done, that
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needs to be done, and I need to do all of it because I don't see
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anybody else. And then, you know, the next one
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after that was, let's see, I had, oh, effective
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communication. And I've taught that here on
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understanding effective communication is the ability to
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paint pictures in the mind that'll bring a desired result.
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And I and I and I talked about how important it was to
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communicate. And I had some stories to let
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them know. I know what it is to
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communicate, right? And I know what happens if you
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don't communicate properly. All right?
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And then the last one was how to network.
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That was my last phrase in there of letting them know how
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important it is that when you get to know people, it may not
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be for business, it might be for life, you know, and, and, and I,
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I told about that, you know, when Melanie had her brain in
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your reserve rupture in March of 2006, I got a phone call with
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one of the guys in my network, which was my attorney.
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And he heard about it. And he told me if if it was my
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wife, this is what I do. And I thought, well, OK, you
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probably could do that. I have no clue how to do it.
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And he said, I've got a phone call ready for you.
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Somebody at the end of the phone, the line, you call them
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and, and they'll talk to you. And so I was so thankful, you
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know, for that, that, you know, he didn't just look at me as a,
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you know, client or neighbor, because he was one of my
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neighbors and we all lived in three acre plots and everybody
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had their own little acreage. And, and, but he told me, hey,
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you know, do this, do this, do this and everything that we did,
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you know, got Melanie to where she needed to go at the Mayo
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Clinic in Rochester, MN. So getting the information and
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knowing. But one of the things I was in
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an airport, that was my point, I think.
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And, and I saw the coolest looking Kansas City Chiefs mug,
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coffee mug. It was cool, man.
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I mean, I, I don't know how to describe it, but the, you know,
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their logos of Casey inside of an Arrowhead and Arrowhead was
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embossed and sticking out from the edge of the on both sides of
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the mug. And I mean, it was cool, bright
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red. I said, I got to get that.
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And I bought that thing and I sent it to Kent, you know, And
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he goes, he calls me, he goes, where did you get that mug?
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And I said Miami, FL, as a matter of fact.
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And he goes, man, that was so awesome.
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And I can't believe you were thinking of me.
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And I said second, I saw, saw it, I was thinking of you, you
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know, and, and, and it's just multiple, multiple people over
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the years that, you know, that I, I, I've looked at and there's
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been some that I've been able to throw a little bit, you know, in
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there. I had another woman and, and
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she's no longer with us and I had an opportunity.
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I wanted their business. I wrote about her in Next in
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Line where I wanted this one particular business from this
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one company and they manufacture truck utility cranes.
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And then the name of the company is auto crane.
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And they make a little utility truck and on it has a crane that
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they can lift stuff on and put in the truck and the different
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thing. And they make them big too
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giant. And they have Dick decals all
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over them. They just tons of safety stuff
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on them. And I thought, I want that
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company. And so one day I got a phone
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call from that company that wanted to know if I could make
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decals to put on trash cans. OK, well, I got to know her and
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what all she liked. And there wasn't a whole lot of
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things that I thought I could buy for her 'cause it was
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obvious from the ashtray in her office that she was a chain,
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very nervous smoker, you know, And to the extent that when I
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left, you know, I kind of smelled like I'd been doing a
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little myself, right? And, but, you know, I just fell
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in love with her And, and, you know, and I remember, you know,
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just talking to her a little bit about the Lord and some of the
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anxiety that she was, you know, facing and family and stuff.
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And I said, you know, I said, I, I know someone that could help
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you with that. I said, has anybody ever, you
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know, talked to you about the relationship with the Lord and
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how it's made a difference? And she goes, no, not really.
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And I said, well, I said, as we grow the relationship, I said,
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you can ask me any question you want.
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And I guarantee you that, you know, I can help you, you know,
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with some of that. And so, so funny. 1 you know,
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one time she let off a color word, a colorful word and, and
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she looked at me and she said, she goes, and it was, it was God
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blank, whatever. And I said, she goes, that I
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really want to apologize for that.
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And I said, well, don't worry about it.
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And she goes, she goes, does that not bother you when people
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talk? Like I said, no, it doesn't.
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I said, because, you know, she says, well, I took the Lord's
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name in vain. And I said, well, you know, I
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have a teaching on that. And I said, you really didn't
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because God's not his name, OK? And that just, you know, and I
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sat there for a few minutes and I just shared with her, his name
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is Jehovah. And he has a lot of, he has a
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lot of titles with his name. And, and if we make a decision
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not to believe in those titles, that's where we start taking his
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name and making it. Cause the word vain means empty,
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idle, non productive. OK, so if you're, if you're
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going to say God really doesn't do this or he doesn't do that no
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more, or he's not interested in that, you know, concerning your
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life, you're real, real, real close to saying your name's, it
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equals nothing. You know, she was really shocked
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by that. And I said, so it doesn't bother
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me. I said, you know, and she goes,
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well, I just, I just feel bad, you know, I said, it's OK.
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You know, I'm not offended. I'm not hurt by that.
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You didn't hurt my my father either.
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OK, you're good. And so, you know, there's
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opportunities that, you know, through that.
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But the in the in the, you know, sharing with people when I had
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opportunity to meet him and speak to him and, and especially
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when I told the testimony, because that was the last part
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that was that was that was the get em when I did, you know, I
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spoke all over the state of Oklahoma.
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I, I spoke to one particular meeting, all the postmaster
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generals in the entire state, because every city has one, OK.
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I spoke to all the mayors and all the commissioners.
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They had an annual meeting. I spoke to them, you know, and,
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and the last part of the message was talking about, you know,
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Melanie's aneurysm rupture and how, you know, how the Lord
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blessed us and we got to the right doctor.
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And here's the miracle of the phone calls and the different
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things like that. So your network, you never know
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who you're going to have in your network, but you need to treat
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each one as a prize. You know, and I had people,
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women been coming up and bawling and talking to me, you know, Oh,
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my, my husband died of an aneurysm.
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And when you were telling that story, Oh my gosh, you know,
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and, and just, you know, your heart just ripping out, you
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know, listening to them give the, you know, the, the
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heartbreak that they had and you're just hoping to giving
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them light saying, you know, listen, we can't control
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everything that's going on here. And God isn't in control of
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everything. OK.
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But, you know, what I want you to know is you need to surround
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yourself with people of faith. And, you know, and I never had
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anybody come and rebuke me, you know, for, for talking about
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that. Any of those that got a copy of
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my book, they read it in the first chapter, you know, and
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talking about that, I was in my pastor's office when, you know,
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I saw Harvey Mckay's book sitting on his desk.
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And I thought I might want to read that book.
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He's got a copy. Where do you get that copy?
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Why has he got that book? You know, I mean, just sitting
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there on his desk glowing, and I thought I better read that book.
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And so with with Harvey and, and the things that he had, I just,
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you know, I loved looking through these.
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And then, you know, and you add you find out something new about
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somebody. You know, he has what he calls
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in his book war stories on how he got to know people, you know,
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getting people tickets, finding out about kids, what they liked,
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what they didn't like. You know, I've helped so many.
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You know, I think it's funny here at Washington, right, that
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we have, we have science projects and you all know it's
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it's parent against parent, right?
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You have very little, very little part of the kids working
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that. I mean, you know, my
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daughter-in-law is over at the house using my printer for their
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wax museum thing, right? And the kid is clueless.
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They just know they're going to dress up.
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And they got to know a few things about what's on this
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board. Right?
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But it's parent against parent. I just, that's the way science
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projects are. Even when I was a kid, I mean,
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you know, it's my dad to come up.
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Well, let's do this. OK, That's cool, Dad, I don't
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even know what that is, but that's cool.
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I just tell him I had a tornado maker one time and I had a, a
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little engine that he had made. He was an electrician and, and,
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and the different things. So, you know, when when it comes
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down. But I, I've done projects for
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other kids, not my own. You know, someone, one of my
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customers will come in and say, hey, he's got to make this
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board. And we thought it'd be cool if
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we had this and could you make us some of these stickers to put
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on there and, you know, to show whatever they Yeah, man, no
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problem, no charge. You know, because they, they,
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you know, you find out they, they, they love their kids.
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They love the soccer, you know, had some soccer kids and we big
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deal was soccer with the kids names on it.
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And, and so I'd created one that was in full color and put the
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kids names on it and, and gave them to, and it kind of caught
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on like wildfire. Everybody wanted one because
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most of the time they were vinyl cut out and put on the back
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window of your van, your your soccer van, right.
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Well, mine were full color with the color of the teams and the
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name of the team on it and the whole bit.
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I mean, it look like NFL or, you know, ASL, what is that American
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Soccer League or whatever it is National Circuit League.
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And and so, you know, made those, gave them to the, the,
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the kids or the parents that, you know, were our customers.
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And again, it's just finding out, knowing something about
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them is more important than knowing all, you know, you know,
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because we want to connect level to level with people to be able
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to, you know, find out what it is that they like.
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And, and, you know, just so many different things that that I've
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learned in, in, in, in the same way people that Melanie and I,
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quote, call into the Kingdom. All right, we see somebody and,
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and we, you know, very cordial, whether it's at the real estate
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office or whatever the case may be.
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And I'll look at her and I'll say we're going to call them
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into the Kingdom. I'm going to call them into the
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Kingdom. And the Lord is going to give us
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opportunities to share with them and talk to them and tell our
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stories and all that stuff to be able to develop a relationship.
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But here's the thing. I want to know about them, you
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know, and I want to ask questions about them because
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they remember, they don't care what you know, They want to know
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how much you care. What's this relationship about?
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Is it all about money? Is it all about sales?
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Or is it about, you know, I care for you as a human And why don't
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you tell me a little bit about yourself?
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And I, I just, I, I get thrilled.
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I mean, you know, we have one particular educator in the, the
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real estate side of it. And I fell in love with him the
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very first time I heard him speaking.
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He was our instructor and we had to deal with him.
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Not only what was the first was it, it was a whole week, wasn't
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it 8 hours a day for the first week to, you know, get your
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test, OK, and you're going to take a test at the end of it.
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But he, he's just so funny, kind of military kind of pastoral
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coach, like, you know what I mean?
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Like y'all get upset, you know, when you know, I, I correct you
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about something, but you know, you let your, your kids get out
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there and get yelled at because they missed a, a ball or
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whatever the case may be. And you don't have no problem
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with that. And I have to agree that is
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weird. I don't know why we would do
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that. But so, you know, I hear, and I
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call him coach because he said he's using, you know, football
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vernacular in the class and, and, and I just hearing him and
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how he could quote the law and how he knew, you know, what
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chapter and what dot and what you know, Dash, it was in the
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law. And I just thought, man, this
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dude's a genius. I mean, you know, just being
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able to let us know. And he'd always get everybody
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back in center because every well, what about it it?
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And he goes, hey, hey, hey, hey. He said here's the book.
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I told you to put a blip on the notes that I'm telling you,
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'cause I'm here to help you pass a test.
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I'm not here to give you all the knowledge to be the world's
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greatest realtor. He said I want you to pass the
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test. That's what I'm going to do.
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So, you know, we quit asking dumb questions and we started
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putting blips little little little star or something by the
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points that he said would be on your test, because a test in, in
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real estate is it's 5000 questions, but you're tested on
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100. Now I did the odds on that on
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how would I know? I was studying what I needed to
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pass 100 questions out of 5000. You know, it's kind of reminded
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me. I, I went a little hitch in
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college and I took a class on art history and we looked at 700
-
slides and we're tested on 7. Now should not have been a
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surprise to everybody that I made straight FS every test
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cause for some reason the seven I studied were somewhere mixed
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in that 700, but they weren't on the test day, right?
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So I'm thinking the same thing. I mean, I'm sitting in this
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little cubicle and they this is like military guards in this
-
room. You know that you're taking you
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can't be looking around, you know, wondering what everybody
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else is doing. You're on a computer, you're
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doing it. And I I take the first one I get
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I and they say it's hundred hundred question test.
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Well, mine hits one O 1 answer that question.
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One O 2, answer that question. One O 3, raise my hand.
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In comes the monitor. Is there a problem?
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I said, am I taking the right test?
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Because I've been told this whole time it's 100 questions,
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I'm already on 104. And they said, well, we give you
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some questions, you know, to warm them up on.
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OK, well, I didn't see that anywhere.
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Didn't say it nowhere, you know, and I'm thinking, good night,
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man. I mean, you know, I'm just
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trying to make it through this deal and, you know, and I
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thought I probably failed, man. I probably did.
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And you know, Melanie's already out there, just a grinning, you
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know, she's already and found out.
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I didn't know you found out right then.
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And and I thought, and she goes, what's the matter?
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And I said, there's just a couple questions I don't think I
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got right, you know, And she goes, well, you passed and said,
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do I ever have to take this test again?
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That's what I wanted to know, you know, but The thing is, is
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that when I met coach and he was educating us to get this thing
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passed and we did. I just, you know, I, I just kept
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going to classes, CE classes with, with him in mind.
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And we started developing a relationship.
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And you know, and one time I was up there with a bunch of guys,
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we were asking some questions and he goes, Hey, I want to tell
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you guys a joke. And I said, is it an off color
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joke? And he goes, he goes, no, I
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said, well, I, you know, I said, I have a, a life that I'm
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living. And I said, I'm one of the
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leaders in the local church around here.
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And I'm standing and listening to those kind of jokes.
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He goes, what was the football joke?
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And it's not nasty. And it was, it was hilarious.
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OK, He went ahead and told it and he said, I just and he goes,
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so are you a reverend? And I go, as a matter of fact, I
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And now he calls me Rev. We've been to dinner with him and his
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wife several times. That's how the relationship
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grew. And they always look forward to
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going with us. And he always calls me Rev. And
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in class, he calls me Rev. He says Rev. Is that true or true?
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You know? Yeah.
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I asked a question. Is it true or true Rev?
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I said it's true, you know? And, and he and he goes, Rev,
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Why are you the only person shaking your head at this
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question? Cause that ain't the right
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answer. He goes true Rev and everybody
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else he goes Rev, got it. But you know, because I follow
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him close, you know, I want to know what the law says.
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I don't want to be out here messing around and then wind up
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with one of these people that, you know, had a great career and
-
all of a sudden, next thing you know, DBPR is coming in and
-
revoking your license for the rest of your life.
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And that'd be hard, you know, and, and it's happened and he
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tells the horror stories of it happening.
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And I'm thinking, oh, Lord Jesus, help me walk the the
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straight and narrow way, you know, and that but again,
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getting to know people, you know, talk to him.
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This is the biggest opportunity that anybody should have at
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Anchor Faith Church is that I know we all drawn to our
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friends, OK, that we're all drawn to, you know, those that
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that, that love us and we want to talk to him.
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But you got to get out of that. I mean, you know, Seth and I are
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talking about, you know, bringing some networking
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opportunities, you know, to Kingdom first Business Alliance.
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And but the first opportunities of networking you need is to
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greeting those people that are coming for the first time.
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And I'm telling you what, I'm seeing more people that I don't
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recognize in ages, and I'll go up and I'll introduce them.
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And then those, you know, that I've noticed have been coming
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and coming and coming, you know, and they're, you know, I said
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how many times you been here? You know, I'll start the
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conversation. My name is Randy Clay.
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I don't even introduce myself as Reverend, you know, I just say,
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hey, my name is Randy Clay. And yours is training Titus to
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do the exact same thing. Titus is hilarious.
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I mean, he goes into the county Commissioner's Office, walks up
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to one of the highest ranking dudes in there.
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My name is Titus Clay. What is yours?
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And and he drags, he drags Titus in.
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He says, why don't you meet a young man you we ain't got and
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we never seen around here before?
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I said. He asked me.
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He said he asked me my name, shook my hand and asked me if he
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could hold the door open for me. Where are these kids?
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You know? And, and so he sees, he sees
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enough to get it. He says, listen, listen, don't
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be afraid of people, all right? I don't care what they look
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like, how many tattoos they got, all right, what hairstyle they
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have or don't have. And we greet them and we get to
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know something about them. Because, see, people seem to
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gravitate to places they're celebrated, not tolerated.
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You get that. People will gravitate.
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They'll come to places that they feel celebrated, not tolerated.
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Because, you know, it's sad, sad to say that I have been in
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churches where, you know, they have their little cliques and
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their little groups over here, their little groups over here,
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and they don't let anybody in those groups and people come and
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nobody touch them. OK, that I'm looking for that.
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I'm looking for somebody that comes down, sits down by
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themselves, OK, Nobody during greet times going over and
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greeting or talking to them. I'm going to find a way to get
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over there one way or another. OK?
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If I'm over here, I'm just looking around, all right?
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Yeah, I'm. I'm hugging people, but I'm
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looking for the guests, you know, those that I don't
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recognize their faces because everyone in here ought to have a
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pretty good recognition system on them.
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Now, you've been here long enough that when people come in,
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you got an idea, I haven't seen them before.
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And then you go to them and all the busyness that you got right
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and you make them glad because I tell them, I said, I said this
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first time with this. And I've had several said, yeah,
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yeah, that's for our first time. I said, I am so honored you
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came. You could have gone anywhere
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today, but yet you chose came to be and come to be with us.
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I'm honored. And I thank you for coming.
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I want you to come back if you feel like it, all right?
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And just encourage them. Well, do you think they come
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back? Maybe.
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But if they sit there all alone and nobody said nothing to them,
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you know, but then, you know, there's been, you know, several
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that I've had an opportunity to talk to without the hall out.
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Out in the hall. They had it had one couple set
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back over here. And I didn't realize that, you
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know, they were getting pretty involved.
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I've just seen them and I remembered their names and they
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couldn't believe I remembered their names.
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I've got so many stories like that.
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Just the name because I had one little girl in Oklahoma and she
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was friend, She was a niece of a friend of ours and she came
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during the summer stay with her aunt and she was troubled.
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There was stuff going on in the family, the different things
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like that. But I remembered her name
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because the same as my Mama was the name Sherry.
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And she came six or so months later for a visit and I walked
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up to her and I said Sherry, it is so good to see you. 6 months
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later she just broke down and started bawling.
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She goes, I can't believe you remembered my name.
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I mean people, they just want to know, are they, are they noticed
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at all? Anchor Faith Church ought to be
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the place that we notice when people come in.
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We take that same thing into our business, you know, I mean, you
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know, getting to people that know people on a first name
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basis, you know, and when they come in, Melanie and I have been
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eating at the Calico Cactus. We go in.
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I know all of them by name, all right?
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They all greet us when we come in.
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They all yelling at us when we leave, you know, and I got to
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know the owner. I said I need to meet the owner.
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Well, he's not here. He lives in Tennessee.
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I said, does he ever come here? Yes, every other week.
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Great. So I'm sitting there, Melanie
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and I are having our little breakfast and our little coffee
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and all of a sudden in between us is a hand with a little they,
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they call them churro bars. And it, it's like a churro, you
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know, a little stick, but it's a bar.
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It's, and it goes right in there.
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And this man says, I noticed that you guys, you know, were
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saying grace and praying over your food and giving thanks.
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And he said, and I just wanted to say thanks for coming in
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today. I, I, dude, I whipped around.
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Are you the owner? And he goes, I am.
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And I said in your name in he says Scott Moore.
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Scott Moore. I'm Randy Clay.
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And I said, I'm it's a pleasure to meet you.
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Can we visit for you with you for a minute?
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Because see, he was one of the founders of the Maple Street
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Street Biscuit Company downtown. And he was telling us, he said
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we sold it the last couple of months of 2019.
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He said if we'd have gone through COVID, we'd have lost
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everything. But we sold it to the Cracker
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Barrel. And I thought, that's not good.
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I said, you know, 'cause one, they're going to change it to
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their old stuff and whatever they want and they're, we going
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to lose, you know, the flavor and everything else in that.
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But he got, he said, he said, yeah, it was a miracle.
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He said that we were able to do the deal.
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They wanted it and see, they got the pockets to be able to make
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through something like that. But we didn't have that.
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So he said I took the money and my part and he said, and I want
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to open up this little Taco shop and I said, well man, that's
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great. Well, he now we all text basis.
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All right, he texts me how you doing?
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I appreciate you looking over my store for me.
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I told him, I said, listen, I'm starting something new and we
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need to talk about this. I I said, I'm starting something
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new called area chaplains. I said, if your company ever
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needs a chaplain, I'm your guy. He goes, that's a great idea.
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Thanks. You know, 'cause let's say that
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some of his employees have a meltdown about something and
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they need to talk to somebody spiritual about it.
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I'll be your man. And I learned that from Peter
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Daniels because he said, go to go to a company and tell them
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that, you know, that you're available, you're from anger
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fake church and that you're available.
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That if anybody ever, you know, we have a catastrophe, we have
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something going on that if you need somebody to talk to them
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about it, you volunteer to do it.
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I said, it's a great idea. You know, it's a great idea.
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So, you know, looking at I told him, I said, I'll do that
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because he's got some, he's got some, some people that work
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there that you know, or living in, in lifestyles that the Bible
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doesn't approve of. But that's OK.
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Don't bother me. I said, because I'm going to be
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a light. And if I mess up on your
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pronoun, I don't know that I'm going to apologize.
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I'm just going to be an old man that don't know what he's
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talking about. I look really ignorant, OK, But
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you know, and, and you know, just having an opportunity.
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What you know, the manager of the store, there's two of them
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and one of the managers we were able to connect a little bit
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with and come to find out he loves going deer hunting.
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And when Melanie said I, I love the deer hunt.
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And, you know, this is what I and they started a conversation
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which I was totally left out of because I don't do no deer
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hunting and, and I just pay for the, you know, processing and,
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and drag them out of the woods after they're dead.
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OK. And, and, but they had a great
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conversation. But that was one more point that
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we got to know about him that we didn't know before.
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So, you know, we'll keep that in our minds.
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And the same thing, you know, just getting to know each of
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them, what they like, what they don't.
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And and there'll be times. I mean, you know, if I find out
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birthdays, I'm big on, Hey, happy birthday.
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What? How did you know it's my
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birthday? Well, I heard somebody talking
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about it, you know, or whatever. So really guys, that's in, in
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taking a look of understanding sales and and the importance is
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that that we need to think more about people than we think about
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the money. Because here's the bottom line
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is if we think about the people, the money will come people.
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If you show genuine care, you do things above and beyond the, the
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ordinary, what they expect from any other business type person
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and you do something that goes beyond that, that's remembered.
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And again, they'll want to do business with you.
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And, and so, you know, I just had it, you know, those few
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stories and everybody got a, you got an outline.
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Just look those over. This is just a reminder sheet of
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how you can get to know someone and, and, and spend some time,
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you know, just praying over them.
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You can use it to pray over them if they tell you something.
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I mean, I can't tell you how many times, you know, we showed
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interest in somebody and then they really opened up their
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heart and we were able to minister and talk to him about
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this is what the Bible says about your situation.
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And I do believe that if I'm not mistaken, that you want to see
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this result happen in this situation you're going through.
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So can we pray with you? And, you know, and I've never
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had any said, ah, you ain't praying for me.
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You know, never, I have never experienced somebody that was
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just, you know, hostile against showing that I care about your
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situation, you know, and I think I have something that might
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help. And so, you know, and, and and
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I'm, I'm here to help you if you want it, you know, and it may
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not be a bumper sticker or decal or a sign, but I may have
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something else that you need. And everybody needs Jesus,
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right. So that's what we've got.
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We've got to focus on. All right, let's pray.
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Hey, Father, we thank you and praise you that as tonight as we
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talk about the thing that is the most important to you is the
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lives of people. I'm appreciative of the the the
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opportunities and the things and looking forward to more and more
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of it as we're building the church, we're growing and the
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ministry itself. And I thank you that we're able
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to see the importance of people that that's what you came and
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died for. When it's all said and done,
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that's all you're going to have up there with you as people.
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And that's who we're going to be around is people.
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So Father God, let us take that same heart that you have is, is
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to see where people are and see how we can be a blessing and the
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things that you've blessed us with that we can, we can show
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them and share with them that we might be a light to their life.
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And Father, we want to thank you in advance for helping us grow
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this church and the businesses involved and that we can
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continue to see your, your harvest to us and, and, and the
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things that you want to see come to pass in our life individually
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and corporately. And so, father, we just blessed
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the, the those that attended tonight.
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We thank you for your blessings on their house, their bills are
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paid, their income needs are met.
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And in Jesus name, everything you said that we could have, we
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have in Jesus name, Amen. Amen.