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Beyond Ordinary Prayer | Travis Rosenthal | Faith Church
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So I'm going to tell you guys something you already
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know. Your pastor's a really great guy. We met
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over the phone for like 30 minutes, and I'm going
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to be honest with you, don't tell anybody I said
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this, okay? But there's some people I got to
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talk to for 30 minutes, and I'm like, please,
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Lord, when's it going to end? But your pastor,
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I sat down with him and I was like, man, it's
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already been an hour. You want to just go get
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a cup of coffee real quick and talk a little
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bit more and get to know each other? He's a great
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guy. And pastor, I just thank you for the opportunity
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to come and speak before your people. It's a
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privilege and an honor. And I'm really going
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to hope and pray that I don't fall off this thing
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because I am a little ADHD and don't pay attention
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to all the details often. So I come to you from
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a holy land with my wife. Stand up, Sydney. This
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is my beautiful wife. And this holy land is known
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as Springfield, Missouri, the Mecca of the Assemblies
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of God. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Me and my wife
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lived in Arkansas. I moved to Arkansas when I
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was 12 years old. We raised our budget. We've
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still got just a little bit to raise, but we're
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just right at the finish line. We raised it enough
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to start doing the ministry full time there.
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And we've just went full send for the call of
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God. How many of you have heard of the World
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Prayer Center? Just a few of you guys last night,
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right? That's what I was hoping for. So the World
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Prayer Center is a brand new ministry that the
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Assemblies of God is doing. Is it okay if I step
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down off of this thing? Okay, okay. I didn't
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want a full -blown manifestation. You know, some
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people are like, don't step out of the box, man.
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You know, it gets a little wild some places.
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So the World Prayer Center is a brand new ministry
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started by the Assemblies of God. And pretty
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much the way this began is we began to look at
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our culture, the United States of America, and
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the place that was once known as the great gospel
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enterprise is no longer the great gospel enterprise.
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See, nowadays you look around and you can see,
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I mean, in Pennsylvania, they have a beautiful
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city block that is now dedicated where people
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can go together and do fentanyl and heroin and
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whatever they want to do legally. They don't
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have to worry about it. You go to California,
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you've got Skid Row. It's the same kind of situation
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in Las Vegas, Nevada. They have the first ever
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legal brothel, a house of prostitution. America
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has fallen from grace. She's no longer the place
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where the gospel is front and center. She's now
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the place where the LGBTQ agenda has infiltrated
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the church. She's the place where the church
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is no longer talking about the gospel. They're
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talking about politics. And she's the place where
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prayer is now outlawed in some schools, but they
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want to vote for Sharia law from the Islamic
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religion. And places like Texas and New York
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City, America is no longer centered around the
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gospel that we were built upon. And even though
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the forefathers were not perfect godly men, they
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knew what it was to bring Judeo -Christian values
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into a culture and build a culture off of that.
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And one of the things we see is, as I said last
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night, is it's like the book of Judges, where
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after Joshua had brought Israel into the promised
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land, there was a generation that grew up that
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did not know what God had done for the generation
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before them. And it was simply because mom and
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dad didn't sit down and take care of their daughters
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and their sons and begin to tell them about the
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God that they knew from the beginning. As a matter
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of fact, they sat down and they got comfortable
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and they said, let's look at all of our blessings.
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Let's look at all the good things God is doing
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and we'll just hope that our kids learn it by
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proxy, by osmosis. And the thing about humans
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is maybe we can all agree is, you know, maybe
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not you, but humans are dumb by nature. We're
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forgetful. We're selfish. And so what began to
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take place in America was when we got a little
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comfortable and we sat down, we moved away from
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the foundation of the Christian life. I want
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you to hear me, friend. The Christian life is
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not about being a good person. You can't do it
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even if you tried. You're bound just like the
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rest of us. The Christian life is not about how
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many pages of the Bible you read every day. The
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devil knows Scripture better than any of us.
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And he's not saved. The Christian life is about
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a right relationship with God. And that comes
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through the place of prayer. And when we look
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at the culture today, we can see that the number
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one problem, the number one reason we began to
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fall away from the Christian values that we were
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founded on, the number one reason this nation
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that used to be known as the great gospel enterprise
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has now crumbled into pagan idolatry and secular
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humanism and all sorts of other issues is simply
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because people in the church quit praying. They
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quit worrying about relationship with God. Well,
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how do you know this, Travis? Well, the Assemblies
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of God statistician, his name is Mike Clarenshaw.
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You guys can look him up. He's released a statistic.
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Now, a little fun fact about the Assemblies of
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God before I say this is we were built as a group
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of people who prayed. There was a one -eyed African
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-American man who was a former slave. All the
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cards were stacked against him. He had no hope
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of doing anything really in the culture. Because
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of the color of his skin, he was not allowed
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to sit in a Bible college classroom. He had to
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sit outside of the door. And that man prayed
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for eight hours a day until a move of God hit
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America called the Azusa Street Revival. And
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that's when the Pentecostal movement really exploded,
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what it was born out of. We were built as a people
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of prayer. But now the statistic is that we have
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85 million people in the United States of America
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that attend an Assemblies of God church, and
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only 2 -4 % of them pray monthly as a body. We've
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fallen. We've simply forgotten what it is to
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know God. We've grown comfortable with His activity.
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with his hand, but we missed his face. And just
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as I told some of the individuals last night,
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one of the problems in America is that we can
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enjoy the benefits of someone's past relationship
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with God and still not know him. I can enjoy
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the benefit of the carpenter that built this
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building, the benefit of the concrete worker
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that paved the road outside. I can enjoy the
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work of their hands and recognize it, but it
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doesn't mean that I know the one who did it.
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And when you have a group of people who they
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come and they go to church and they don't even
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pray together, I do have to ask a simple question.
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And we were having fun earlier and I'm about
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to suck all the fun out of the room for a minute.
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But I have to ask a very simple question. Do
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you even know Christ? If you can't sit and be
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with Him. And so at the World Prayer Center,
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our mission is to take the level of prayer in
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America and raise it up even just a little bit.
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And we do this in three ways. The first one is
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we invite pastors and staff and laity, everybody
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from the church to come to the prayer center
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in Springfield, Missouri. And we have a day of
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training and prayer. Now when I say a day of
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training, a lot of prayer conferences are six
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hours of preaching and then 20 minutes of praying.
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We don't do that. We're going to talk to you
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for an hour, hour and a half tops, and you're
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going to go pray for two or three with us. And
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we've got, everybody loves the room. It's got
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this giant 600 square foot LED floor connected
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to Google Earth. I told your pastor we need to
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get you guys to come sometime, so maybe if you
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bug him enough, he'll get something scheduled
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with me. The other way we do this, Because what
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I'm doing right now, we travel as evangelists
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across the nation. Anywhere that wants to invite
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us, we come, we preach on prayer, and we try
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to just bring the level of prayer up by giving
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people a burden to pray and teaching them what
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prayer does in a culture. And the third way is
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by hosting what we're calling prayer sieges based
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off the ministry of Charles Finney. Charles Finney
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was a man. He was probably one of the greatest
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evangelists to ever live. He's known as a grandfather
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of revival. He would go into a city 30 days after
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his intercessors, Daniel Nash and Abel Cleary.
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They would go in, they would pray for 12 -hour
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shifts for 24 hours. How many of you guys would
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like that job? That'd be a difficult job. They'd
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pray for 12 hours apiece. And then when they
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would get done praying, they would tell Finney,
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the Lord has come. And when Finney would go into
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a city, it wasn't like, you know, in this time
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they didn't have Instagram or Facebook or TikTok.
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They didn't post flyers. They didn't have printers
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to really do all this kind of stuff. At this
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time, Finney would go into a city and he would
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just go wherever God led him. And the effect
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his ministry would have after he left was astronomical.
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Fifteen years after Finney had been to a city,
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Evangelists would come in and they would ask
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a question, has Finney come here? And if they
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said yes, they'd go, pack the bags, boys. We're
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going down the road. And when people asked why,
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they would call it burn over grounds. Because
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even 15 years later, the bars would still be
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closed down. 15 years later, the crime rate would
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still be down. People would actually be selling...
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selling their businesses and their buildings
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and giving the money to the church so the church
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could expand to fit the people that were coming
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in. But here's the fun part. Finney's ministry
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only lasted 10 years. His ministry ended when
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Daniel Nash and Abel Cleary died. He said, when
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the intercessors were gone, my ministry didn't
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matter anymore. So he dedicated the rest of his
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life to teaching students at Oberlin College.
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And he began to teach them about prayer and evangelism,
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about intercession, and even theology about revival.
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And many of his students went on to partake in
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the Second Great Awakening, which changed the
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culture in the United States. So at the World
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Prayer Center, we go to any city that wants to
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have us, and we pray for 10, 12 hours a day as
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a team. And we host revival type services and
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we see God move. And we're hoping that combining
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all three of those things together, we can begin
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to get people excited for the place of prayer
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again. How many of you guys think that's an awesome
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ministry? Wonderful. Wonderful. So a little bit
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about me. You know, I'm not a preacher's kid.
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I didn't grow up in ministry. As a matter of
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fact, if you look at my life, you would think,
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how in the world did that guy end up at a pulpit?
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I grew up in a house where my father was absent.
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My mother was a raging alcoholic and a drug addict.
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And by the way, I grew up in a land not too far
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from here. Not too far from Illinois. Some of
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you guys would call it a mission field. It's
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a place called Springfield. How many of you guys
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have been to Springfield? Yeah. Yep. And so in
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Springfield, my mom, although she really tried,
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she was not a great mother. Is that okay? Is
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that acceptable for me to say that? Can we just
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be honest for a minute? She's probably watching
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the live stream right now. I love you, Mom. Do
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what? Yeah, she's great now. I was getting there.
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I was getting there. My wife is trying to be
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like, smooth it out a little bit. Smooth it out.
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Damage control. But she wasn't that great. She
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tried, but she was broken. She grew up in a home
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where when their father died, they kind of celebrated
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on Christmas Day. He was not a good man. He beat
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their mother. He beat the kids. So in my home,
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we didn't really do much with Christmas. Jesus
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was never mentioned. As a matter of fact, in
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my home, I would say Jesus was a cuss word. The
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only time you heard his name is when somebody
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stubbed their toe or you turned on TV and somebody
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was blaspheming him as a joke. We didn't go to
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church. I'd never heard the gospel. And so growing
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up, there was no message or idea of hope in my
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life. Dad wasn't around. Mom was cruel. And add
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on top of all of that, we grew up and we were
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dirt poor. I'd go to school and kids would make
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fun of me because my shoes would be falling apart.
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Not knowing that when I went home that day, I
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would either be without electricity or water,
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and I wouldn't know when my next meal came in
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outside of school. How many of you guys know
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that that creates a catastrophic mindset growing
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up? When I was 12 years old and we moved to Arkansas,
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you would think things got better because we
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moved to the Bible Belt. You know, the Bible
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Belt is not so fascinated with the Bible. See,
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we were surrounded by Assemblies of God, Pentecostal
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churches, but nobody had ever shared the gospel
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with me. And when my mom got down there, you
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know, we moved to a dry county, so I don't know
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how many of you guys know what that means, but
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you can't just go to the store and buy alcohol.
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Like, you've got to go a distance to do that.
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So my mom found a drug called methamphetamine.
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How many of you guys have heard of that one?
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That one's wild. She began doing meth. She began
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selling a little bit of meth. And then on top
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of that, she would just drive an hour away to
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get a bunch of alcohol and sell that too from
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the house. We had all kinds of fun. I say that
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sarcastically. When I was 12 years old, I had
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a kid at school come up to me and he was like,
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hey man, you seem like you're one of us. And
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he said, here, he's an older kid. He was like,
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here, let's smoke some weed together. Cool. Might
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as well. I'm already drinking on the weekends.
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Already partying. So 12, you know, getting drunk
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on the weekends, smoking weed every day. And
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then they started introducing me to things like
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Oxycontin. You know, I took eight 100 -milligram
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Seroquel one day, overdosed in class, and they
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were like, we cannot have this kid in here anymore.
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He is out of hand. By the time I was 14 years
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old, I was already arrested a few times. Now,
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the cops had mercy on me because they knew who
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my mom was, so they would just take me back home
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and take whatever they found on me. But when
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I was 15 years old, that grace ran out. They
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did not care. Didn't care. And so, at 15 years
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old, my mother goes to jail for 30 days. And
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I was staying with some cousins and, you know,
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I told them to take me back home because I was
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scared people were robbing what little that I
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had. And they did. I walk in my house and the
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door on my trailer is ripped open. All of my
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clothes are everywhere. Doors are kicked in,
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dresser stuff gone. They'd effectively raided
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my house because they knew our tax money came
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in, and they were looking for the four grand
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my mom got from the government. They found it.
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And so I began hopping from house to house, from
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couch to couch, trying to figure it out. You
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can't get a hold of mom. She's in jail. She was
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in there for 34 days, and she had an ulcer rupture,
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so they cut her open from rib down to below her
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belly button. They did an experimental surgery
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and saved her life. While she's in the hospital,
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she decides to pick up a Bible, a Gideon's Bible,
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and start reading in the book of Psalms. Now
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listen, for the life of me, I don't know why
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you would pick up a book and start reading it
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from the very beginning, or from the middle.
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I would assume that you would pick it up and
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start reading from Genesis, but I think that
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would have confused her more. So she's reading
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Psalms, and in one second, David's really happy,
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and in the very next page, he's like, I want
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to die. And she's like, what is going on with
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this guy? And so she starts doing some Googling
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and finding out this is a guy that's known as
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a man after God's own heart. He was a king. He
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was chosen. And, you know, he committed adultery
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and then murdered a lady's husband. And she's
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like, man, this guy is just about as messed up
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as I am. Now, I think he probably would have
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said, Teresa, you're a little bit worse than
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me. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Again, mom,
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I know you're watching. I love you. But she begins
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reading and she begins wrestling with this idea
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of this man known as a man after God's own heart
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is suffering. And she thought if there was a
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God, he must not be real because he doesn't love
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me and I am suffering. And so what she does is
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she decides to pull all the tubes out of her
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stomach and walk home from the hospital. Because
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she just can't handle what's going on inside
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of her. God had effectively begun doing a work
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in her that she was not comfortable with. And
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she ends up miraculously meeting a woman that
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was preaching to her in the jail. And she sits
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down and has dinner with our pastor. She gets
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saved, gives her life to Christ. And I mean,
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it wasn't like, oh, she's saved, but she's being
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sanctified. You know, whenever we make excuses
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for the new Christian sin, you know, they're
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saved, but they're still sleeping with their
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boyfriend or their girlfriend because they're
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new. I mean, she got saved. She got saved. I
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mean, you came home and she wasn't drinking a
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beer anymore. And I was like, bro, I've never
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known my mom to not drink one day in her life.
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What's going on? She came home and the meth was
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gone. When they came to the house to get dope,
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she was like, you got to leave. I don't do that
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anymore. When they came into the house to buy
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alcohol, she was like, no more. She looked at
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me and said, you can't smoke weed in this house
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anymore. I mean, she was not playing games. She
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got saved. When she got saved, the TV got saved,
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the library got saved, the house got saved. I
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mean, everything got saved. Everything. There
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was nothing there anymore that could not, you
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know, like she was all in for God. And me and
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my sister are thinking, what is this? Who possessed
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you? And I had a problem because I was angry.
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See, by the time I was 15 years old, I'd tried
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to commit suicide on three separate occasions.
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I didn't want to live. I thought about death
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more than life. There was no hope for me. There
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was no hope for anyone else. And I knew that
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I was not a good person. I was mean. I was hateful.
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I got in fights for fun. I was already on my
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way to juvenile detention. Heck, one day prison
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if something didn't happen. I was not a great
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person. You didn't have to convince me of that.
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If I would have believed in a hell, I would have
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been like, yeah, and I'm going to burn. None
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of that. You didn't have to convince me. And
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so my mother walks in the house, and she thinks,
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hey, we're going to go to church. And I was like,
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I bet you are. I bet you are. You're right. You're
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going to go. You're going to go alone. And so
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I had really long hair back then, okay? I had
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really long hair. I got married, and it started
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falling out. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Don't
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look at her. Don't look at her. She never travels
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with me, so I get to pick on her a little bit
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now. She never has the time. My mom kept the
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girls. So anyway, she's like, she's a totally
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different person. I used to watch my mom go to
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the kitchen and drag knives across her arms.
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I mean, she was a different person. There we
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go. We sucked the fun out of the room again.
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Something happened to her. And so she began grabbing
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me by my hair and yanking me to that church building.
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And here's the problem is now this youth pastor
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is like, I have a 15 -year -old punk kid who
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won't listen to anybody. I mean, he's respectful
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enough to sit down in the back, but, you know,
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leave him alone. Don't talk to him. You might
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set him off. He's volatile. And they don't know
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what to do with me, man. Like, they don't know
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what to do with me. I get arrested for stealing
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stuff from Walmart, and they come to the court
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and, like, please make them do community service
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with us. So they gave me 72 hours of community
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service at the church, and the whole time I'm
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digging a ditch that's already dug because they're
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trying to figure out what to do, cleaning chairs,
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vacuuming floors, and they're preaching to me.
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And I'm like, listen, man, I hear you. I just
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don't care. I don't believe in any of it. See,
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I'd have inherited my mother's outlook on life.
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If there is a God and if he is real, then he
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hates me. And that's a whole lot harder to think
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than, ah, there is no God. I'd rather live with
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that than thinking that he hates me for no reason.
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So one day the youth pastor comes to me and he,
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you're the youth pastor, right? Don't ever do
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this. Write this down. Do not do this. Like all
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caps, take three pages and just tape it to the
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wall. Tape it to the mirror at home. He walks
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up to me and he says, hey man, I'm going to invite
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you to this youth convention. And if you come
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with us and you still don't believe in Jesus,
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I'll convince your mom to quit making you go
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to church on Sundays. He says, you've got to
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come on Wednesdays. I mean, I was drunk most
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of the time whenever she took me there on Sundays
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anyway. Hungover, stoned, something. I mean,
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everybody knew I wasn't paying attention. There's
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Travis in the back. We don't know what he's doing.
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And so he convinces me to go, and I was thinking,
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this is going to be perfect. Two days. Two days.
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I got to deal with these annoying people. I just
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got to pretend to be friendly. I got to sit and
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listen to somebody preach for a little bit. I
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get up, go home, and I can laugh in my mother's
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face, and I don't have to go to church again
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on Sunday. Now, I don't know what he was going
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to do because she wasn't going to be cool with
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that deal. She was going to be like, you need
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to tell him and repent to him for lying is what
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she was going to say because that ain't happening.
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Anyway, we go there, and the first night I'm
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making fun of the guy preaching the whole time.
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Like, this guy is stupid. Is it okay if I'm honest
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with you? I'm going to do it anyway. I'm just
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glad that now I have your blessing. I'm thinking
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this guy is stupid. Like he's never lived a hard
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life. He probably comes from a rich family. Look
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at that Rolex on his arm. Those Jordans on his
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feet. He's got this nice tuxedo shirt that I
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could never afford, that we'd never have. I can't
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even eat, and this guy's up here dressed like
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that. He's going to tell me about suffering for
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Christ? No. So night number one, they were like,
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Travis, what do you think? And I was like, Jesus
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is still not real. But night number two rolls
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around. And night number two was a little bit
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different. See, this guy went from, hey, guys,
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we're going to have a great weekend to, like,
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he went straight into Jesus died for you and
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you got two choices. Like, and I'm sitting here
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thinking, yeah, this is what these guys have
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been telling me for six months. And he does the
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weirdest thing ever. He says, I'm going to count
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from three to one, and when I get to one, some
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of you are going to be convicted you need to
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give your life to Christ. I want you to run to
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the front. We all stand, and I'm thinking, one
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more altar call. That's all I have to get through.
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One more of these awkward 20 minutes of people
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walking around looking at you, asking you if
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they can pray for you. One more. And then the
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guy says three. And when he says three, listen
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to me, I'm not one of those people. I didn't
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look up and see heaven and look down and see
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hell. You know, I didn't hear angels singing.
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I didn't hear a voice go, Travis, this is your
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guardian angel speaking. You need to give your
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life to Jesus. I didn't hear that. I didn't hear
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anything like that. But in that moment, something
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hit me down to the depth of my being. And I want
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you all to repeat this word after me. It's called
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conviction. How many of you guys ever felt conviction
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before? I'm talking the conviction of the Lord
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where you're like, I'm going to die and go to
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hell if something doesn't get right. I mean,
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I was sitting here laughing at the guy, and he
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says three, and then I just went stone cold,
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straight faced, like, oh, no. What is going to
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happen? And I'm thinking, okay, hell is real.
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Check. Lake of fire is real. Lovely. He says
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two. And I start connecting the dots. Well, if
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the lake of fire is real, Jesus is real, and
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I'm rejecting him, if I die, I'm going to go
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to hell. How many of you know I wasn't laughing
-
anymore? I went from smiling and laughing and
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making fun of the guy to just straight -faced
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shaking. And then he said one. And when he said
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come to the front, I came to the front. Now here's
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the problem. There were about 500 or 600 other
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kids that had the same idea. So the altar's just
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crowded and they're like, pray. And I'm looking
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like this. What do you mean pray? What are you
-
talking about? And so finally I sat there and
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I went, okay. Jesus, Father, Holy Spirit, I don't
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know which one of you is listening right now.
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I had no idea what the doctrine of the Trinity
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was. I didn't know anything. And I was like,
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listen, listen. I don't know what you want from
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me, but if you'll show me, I'll give it to you.
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And I heard just this gentle, gentle voice, and
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peace came in my soul, and he said, I'll take
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that deal. And you would think, you know, gold
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dust rained down, and cherubim came, and I spoke
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in tongues. None of that happened either. As
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a matter of fact, I went back home and the experience
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so rattled me that I ran into drugs and alcohol
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and all of that harder than I ever did before.
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Because now I don't know what to do. The entire
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world is different than what I thought it was.
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Have you guys ever been in that moment? You just
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start crashing out because you're like, dude,
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I don't know. I don't even know. And here's the
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interesting thing is instead of being at the
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front and center of the party, you know, playing
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beer pong or taking shots or whatever, I'd be
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in a dark room arguing with a guy I didn't think
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was there. And my friends would be like, what
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happened to that guy? His mom started going to
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church, man. He drank the Kool -Aid. And they'd
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peep in and they'd hear me. Why won't you leave
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me alone? Man, who's he talking to? why won't
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you quit bothering me? And I'd hear that same
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voice say, I thought you said you'd follow me.
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And so after about a year of doing that, I was
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like, you know what? You just took every bit
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of fun out of getting high. Like now I'm miserable.
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I get convicted every time. You know what? Following
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you has got to be better. And so there was a
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day when I bent the knee to Christ. And something
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happened to me. The same thing that happened
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to my mother. The same thing that happened to
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many people that I've known before and after
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that. Where the desire to get drunk no longer
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permeated my being. The desire to get high was
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no longer there. Now I still had a whole lot
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of emotional baggage to work through. It's not
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like Jesus came and was like, let me perfect
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you. Which is what we typically think happens.
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But He came and He took the things that had me
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bound away so that I could begin walking with
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Him. Now here's the problem with that. The church
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that I was in, the reason why we had to go somewhere
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else is what I said last night. Pastor, we were
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Pentecostal. We didn't believe in power. We were
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functional Baptists. It was Whitney Lane Family
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Worship Center on the sign and Assemblies of
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God was in the bottom right corner. They believed
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that prayer worked, but never prayed. And you
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heard three sermons all year round. Pray, read
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your Bible, don't get drunk, don't commit adultery,
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don't sin, have a good day. And the pray part
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was just ask God for whatever you have need of.
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There was no concept of relationship with God.
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There was none of that. And so I feel called
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to ministry at one point, and I go to Bible college,
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and we have to go to Mardi Gras to preach the
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gospel to people at the school I went to. Now,
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how many of you guys have ever been to Mardi
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Gras in New Orleans? Take their names down. Write
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it down. Membership revoked. I'm kidding. We
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had to go down there, and you want to talk about
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a culture shock. I mean, people are stripping
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naked just because you're preaching the gospel
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to them, throwing beer on you, spitting in your
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face. Like, it's a culture shock. And so we're
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down there, and we have meetings with the students,
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and this guy has this altar call, and he pulls
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200 or 300 kids up here, college kids. I mean,
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I'm still young compared to most of you guys,
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but 18 -year -olds. Pulls them up here, and I
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mean, some of them have serious issues, like
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cystic fibrosis, respiratory issues, and whatnot.
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He pulls them up here, and he begins praying
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for them. And they're just like bodies in the
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floor. People are getting healed. Some people
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are crying and screaming. And I'm over here thinking,
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what in the world is going on? This did not happen
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at my church. And so I'm asking some of these
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students, what's happening? And they're like,
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go read the book of Acts. And I'm reading the
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book of Acts, and people are jumping in Peter's
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shadow, hoping they'll get healed. Paul's got
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handkerchiefs that he wipes his sweat on, and
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they lamb on people, and demons leave. And I'm
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thinking, this is exactly what the Christian
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life is supposed to look like, healing the sick,
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raising the dead, and casting out demons. And
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so I'm sitting in school, and I interrupt class
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one day, and it's not even a class on anything,
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really. It's geography. It's the geography of
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Israel. Who cares about that class? And I interrupt,
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and I go, hey, how did that guy heal those kids
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in class? And the lady was like, just pray, and
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then moved on like it was nothing. And so I wrote
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that down. Check. We got to pray. Okay, so I
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go home and I'm sitting down when I'm off work.
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I'm sitting in my room with my Bible in my hand
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and I'm going, how do I pray? Nobody ever taught
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me that. That's a shame. We hope and pray that
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people will come into the church and we hope
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that they'll get saved and they'll give their
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life to Christ, but then we don't do anything
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with them. We expect them to come in and learn.
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I mean, you're telling people to read a book
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that's from thousands of years ago. Like they're
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going to just understand it and pick it up. And
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some things in the book are really simple, but
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some things are not. And part of the call of
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Christ was not to just be somebody who makes
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converts and fills some chairs. It was to be
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somebody who made disciples. And that's not for
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the pastor. That's for everybody. Like your call
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is part of the great commission is to go forth
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and make disciples of all nations. And a disciple
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is somebody who's just like you. It is your responsibility
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to find somebody, even if it's just your children.
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Teach them the ways of Christ. Your job is to
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teach them how to pray, not pastors. Deep breath,
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Travis. It's okay. I told you guys, I get a little
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excited sometimes. He's squirrely, guys. Just
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give him a minute. He'll calm down. But really,
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like, nobody discipled me. I would go ask people
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questions, and they would just say, you got to
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be led by the Spirit, brother. What does that
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mean? I don't know. then why are you telling
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me to do it? You don't know. You've been in church
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for 40 years, and you have no idea what that
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means, and you're telling me that I have to do
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it? And so I would get frustrated, man. I have
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nobody to teach me anything. And I'd sit there
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with my Bible, and I'd be like, okay, God, you've
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got to show me how to pray. And you know what
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began to happen? Over time, I went from knocking
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on a door hoping somebody was listening to where
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it just seemed like the door opened. And there
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was somebody talking back to me. And it took
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time. It wasn't something that I just picked
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up one day and moved on. See, God is spirit and
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He interacts with us in spirit. Not in the way
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that we're used to. You don't hear God like you
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hear me right now. He's inside of you. If you're
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saved, if you're not saved, then He's around
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you and you need to get saved. Given your life
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to Christ, the Holy Spirit is in you, and He
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speaks to you from deep within your being. And
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sometimes that's that simple conviction, and
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sometimes it's a thought that you just cannot
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get away from, that, man, I really need to go
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do this thing. And so I began to live my life
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tuning into that internal impression that I learned
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from prayer, and I began to follow it. And pretty
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soon I had pastors calling me, 20 years old,
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hey, we have a demon -possessed guy at our church,
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and we don't know what to do. That's a problem
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too. We got the same Bible, and you don't know
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how to cast a demon out? Come out. I don't know
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any other way either. Like, I don't know what
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to do. And so I did. I walk in here, and this
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lady's slithering on the floor like a snake,
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and I'm like, I don't know what to do, man. Well,
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you know, she got a group discount. All of them
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left for free. It was beautiful. But things like
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that began to happen. The sick began getting
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healed. I've not raised the dead yet. I really
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want to see that happen. That would be really
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cool. Kind of freaky, but cool. But the point
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was that it was all developed from a lifestyle
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of prayer. Of prayer. You know, God uses people
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that are available, but the only way you show
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that you're available is by taking that first
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step. Everything in the kingdom is about stewarding
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what you already have. You've got a relationship
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with the Holy Spirit. He's living inside of you.
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You want Him to do great things through you or
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in your life and in the lives of others, and
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you can't even steward a relationship with Him.
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I mean, listen, listen. We are judged according
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to the things we know and we do. So if we can't
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do the basic thing, why do we expect Him to give
-
us more? Think about that. I think sometimes
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God withholds certain things as a mercy. As a
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mercy because He doesn't want us to be like Ananias
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and Sapphira where the Spirit was being poured
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out upon the people and they told a lie. Something
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that you and I think are small. Just a little
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lie. We got this much money instead of this.
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And God punches the time clock for them permanently.
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The more He moves, the more you and I are accountable
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for. Luke chapter 12 tells that. To the one who
Luke 12 chapter mention
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knows and does otherwise, that one will receive
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a greater punishment than the one who does the
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same and doesn't know. There were things that
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I had done in ignorance that when I came to the
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knowledge of Christ, there was no more excuse.
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But I only learned these things through the power
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of prayer. And I think a lot of people don't
-
know how prayer really changes your life and
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the life of the world around you. So I'll tell
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you a few stories about prayer. Stories that
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have changed my life. And I'm a church history
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buff. Not necessarily, you know, 1900s on, but
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like 300 AD, right after the apostles and everybody
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else. And in 400 A .D., right after the church
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becomes legal, there's a man named Anthony. Anthony
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is just like the rich young ruler in the Gospels.
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Both of his parents die from sickness suddenly.
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They've got so much land and farmland and slaves
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and, I mean, money. And they leave him all of
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this as an inheritance. And he goes into a church
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for the first time at 20 years old. And he hears
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Jesus tell the rich young ruler from the reading
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of the scripture, if you want to be my disciple,
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sell everything. Follow me. And Anthony, just
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because he's just like the rich young ruler,
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he would have never told everybody to do this.
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But because he'd lived a good life, he'd heard
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the Christian principles and he'd followed them.
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Anthony knew that this was a call to him. And
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so what Anthony does is he sells everything and
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he puts his sister in a convent for nuns where
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she can be developed and trained by the church.
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And he gives her enough money to where if she
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wanted to leave the convent and not dedicate
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her life to ministry in that time, then she could
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go and have a good life and find a good husband
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and be taken care of and just continue being
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a Christian. But Anthony does the unconventional
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thing and Anthony goes into the desert. into
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the Egyptian wilderness. And he begins to spend
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12, sometimes 15 hours a day in prayer. And I
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hear me, I'm not fixing to tell you guys to do
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that, okay? But Anthony does this because when
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he looks at the state of the church, the church
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has been legal for a hundred years under Emperor
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Constantine. After in the middle of a battle,
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he sees a cross in the sky and he says, man,
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Jesus must be real. And the state of the church
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at this point is not that they were holy anymore.
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See, as a matter of fact, the priests and the
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nuns, everybody, the bishops were involving themselves
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in prostitution and things akin to gambling in
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that time. and pocketing money and leaving the
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poor needy. And Anthony had noticed that the
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church was corrupted by sin. I call Anthony the
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first Protestant. He was the first one to protest
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the state of the Catholic Church. And Anthony
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goes into the wilderness and he says, I'm going
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to pray. And every time he came back into a city,
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things would happen. In one instance, there's
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a young man on a boat who's eating rotten fish
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outside of his mind. His eyes are rolled in the
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back of his head. And they're thinking, we don't
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know what to do with him. He's 14 years old.
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How can we help him? And Anthony goes up to him
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and draws the sign of the cross and says, be
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free in Jesus' name. And that moment, at that
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very second, second the young man comes to his
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right mind. He was demon possessed and nobody
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knew it. In another instance, they had three
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philosophers come to try to prove that Anthony
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was an idiot. And Anthony looks at these philosophers
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and says, look at the dead body behind you. Will
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your philosophy do this? And he lays hands on
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the body and the woman comes back to life. In
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another instance, Anthony goes into a city where
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the emperor, Emperor Maxim, is persecuting Christians.
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Now some of these things I can't say in a room
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full of people where young people might be present,
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but let's just say that if you were a Christian
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woman, you would be forced to work for men. We'll
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put it that way. After you watched your family
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put to death by this emperor. And Anthony goes
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into the city and he begins healing the sick
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and casting out demons. And he goes to the emperor.
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And Anthony does the craziest thing I've ever
-
heard of. He gets on his knee and he says, Emperor
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Maxim, I'm a Christian. Why don't you kill me?
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And the emperor looks at him and he says, Anthony,
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I can't kill you. And Anthony says, why can you
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kill my people for what they believe? But you
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can't kill me. And the emperor says something
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really profound because it shows that there was
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a line drawn between a fake nominal Christian
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and someone who knew what the gospel was and
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knew what it was like to live for Christ. He
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looks at Anthony and he says, because you're
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too valuable. He says, there's something special
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about you, Anthony. There's something on you
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that's not on the others. He recognized in Anthony's
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life that there was a touch of God. And Anthony
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looked at him and said, please quit hurting my
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people and kill me. And the emperor said, no.
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And Anthony said, then why don't you quit hurting
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them on my behalf? And the emperor made a deal
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for Father Anthony. You keep coming to my city.
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You keep healing my people. And I'll let yours
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go. One man brought peace to an emperor. Peace
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to a nation. Simply because, and he did nothing
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but sit in what they called a cell. It was a
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cave. And pray. And pray. We wonder why Christians
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are ineffective now. While the nation is burning
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and nothing is changing. And I believe the number
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one issue is because we don't have people with
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a spirit of prayer on them like Father Anthony.
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People don't know what it's like to pray and
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press into God and experience Him. Did you know
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that every miracle Jesus did was coming out of
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His prayer life? He goes to a mountain and he
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prays all night. He comes back down and the sick
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are pressing against him. He looks at the disciples
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and says, get in the boat. They get in the boat.
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They get to the other side and he's met by a
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demon -possessed man. The Gadarene demoniac possessed
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by a legion of demons. And he comes out of the
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boat, casts the demons out of him, and the guy's
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like, please, can I follow you? And Jesus says,
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no, you have to stay in the region. Jesus needed
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a witness in the region. And everybody knew the
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Gadarene demoniac. But nobody knew Jesus until
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that moment. In the book of Mark, Jesus' disciples
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are trying to cast a demon out of a boy. They
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say, Lord, why couldn't we do it? He looks at
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them and says, this kind comes out by prayer
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and fasting. You know what Jesus was saying?
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And there's theologians that agree with this.
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This is not my spin. People a lot smarter than
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me with doctorate's degrees. They said Jesus
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was looking at them and saying, your prayer life
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is not matching the level of devil you're facing.
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The difficulty that's coming against you. The
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persecution that's this way. Your prayer life
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is not meeting what Satan is bringing. Think
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about that for a minute. You have the Holy Spirit
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inside of you, and you can't match the devil?
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Is God weak? No. But we don't do our job in stewarding
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that in the place of prayer. How many of you
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guys have ever heard of the Argentine revival?
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A few of you. Sweet. You three are really Pentecostal.
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I want you to know that. Every time I mention
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something, I told my wife, I'm trying to bring
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different stories that nobody's heard of, and
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you guys got every one of them. So the Argentine
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revival is attributed to a man named Edward Miller.
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Where he came and he was a missionary for 20
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years. And do you know what a big church was
-
considered in Argentine? Like they thought if
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you had a church of this size, you were successful.
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This was the mega church of their day in their
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country. You did a great job. They're going to
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write you down in a book and say copy that guy.
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And that's only if you had a church of eight
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people. Because of how ineffective. The church
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was. Edward Miller is like, bro, this is not
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working. He's tired. He's worn out. He's considering
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quitting the ministry. He'd heard about what
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happened under Amy Simple McPherson's ministry
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because his father followed her ministry, was
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a part of it for a little bit. In some way, I
-
think he served or he just went to the meetings.
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And so what he does is he begins to fast and
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pray eight hours a day. After about six months
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of this, Edward Miller wants to quit. He decides
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to take it up another notch, keep fasting. And
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now they say, we're going to host meetings here.
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And there's three women at his house. And they're
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worshiping and all of this. And nothing happens
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until one night the Spirit suddenly falls and
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all three women are baptized in the Holy Spirit.
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It's a pretty wild event. Some onlookers see
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it. It's like, what is going on over there? His
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church doubles in size from three to six. And
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in a place where eight people is effective, the
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standard three to six overnight is legendary.
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You just doubled your congregation. Over the
-
next month, so many people heard about what was
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happening that they had to build a church. And
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they began to ask Edward Miller to go around
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city after city after city. And he goes and...
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Not just a few, but hundreds of people are getting
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saved and giving their life to Christ. And now,
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in South America, in the Argentine area, the
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assemblies of God will look at missionaries who
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say they feel called to go there and they'll
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say, no. We're not sending missionaries to a
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nation that's reached. You know where they will
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send missionaries? Here. What's your prayer life
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look like? I'm not saying you got to be the guy
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at a pulpit. I'm not saying you got to be the
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person at the street corner preaching to everybody.
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What's your prayer life look like? Are you asking
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God to use you? Do you pray? Do you know him?
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Like truly, do you know him? Jesus looked at
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his disciples and said, no longer do I call you
-
servants, I call you friends. Being a friend
-
of God is where effectiveness comes. Being a
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servant is where a yoke of bondage comes from.
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Here's the last story I'll tell you, and I'll
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move on. How many of you guys know about what's
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going on in North Georgia right now? Have you
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three raised your hands? Do you know about the
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North Georgia revival? He does? Dang it. It's
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okay, it's okay. We'll tell the story anyway.
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Pastor Todd Smith was a Southern Baptist who
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didn't believe that God did anything nowadays.
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He accidentally got baptized with the Holy Spirit.
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You know, they fired him, gave him the left foot
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of fellowship. You know how that goes. He goes
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and builds a non -denominational church plant
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in Dawsonville, Georgia, a city of 5 ,000 people.
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You know, your odds of getting more than 50 people
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are very, very slim. But now at the North Georgia
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Revival, the city has grown to 2 ,000 more members.
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They'll have more people at that church on a
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Sunday night than they'll have in the entire
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city's population any other day of the week.
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Here's what Todd Smith did. He repented. He sat
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down and realized that he was doing a lot better
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job teaching people how to plant a church and
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trying to keep his people happy than he was at
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trying to keep God happy. At trying to be a host
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of the presence. So Todd Smith realizes that
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One day while he's in the darkness of a dry ministry
-
life, he accidentally bumps into God. And he
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says, oh, man, you were here with me. I didn't
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even realize that. I'm serious. I've talked to
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the guy. He's in ministry, what they consider
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successful. He's teaching people how to plant
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churches. He's literally making $200 ,000 a year.
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Teaching people how to plant churches and grow
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them effectively and quickly. And his model works.
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It's successful. And he says, I realize that
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I forgot about who God was. So he begins teaching
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his people. Here's what we're going to do. We're
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going to come into the sanctuary one hour a week.
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And we're going to pray. And we're not going
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to ask God to do anything. But we're going to
-
say, Lord, I seek your face. Lord, I want to
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see your glory, your tangible presence. And Lord,
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if there's anything in me that offends you, reveal
-
it to me that I may remove it. If you don't know
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where to start in prayer, start there. Put some
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worship music on, some soft music on, or sit
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in silence and begin to ask God those three questions
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and just wait for an hour. You'll be surprised
-
what pops up. God might say the way that you
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talk to your spouse offends Him. He might say
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the way you treat your neighbor offends Him.
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He might say that you need to go to a group of
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people and ask them to forgive you because you've
-
wounded them. He might say that you need to serve
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a little bit more in the church. He might say
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that you need to pray a little more for the needs
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of the community. But the thing that I'll promise
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you is, is for those who seek Him, they'll always
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find Him. That's God's words Himself. He says
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that alone. To the proud one I resist, but the
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humble one, that one's going to find me. The
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one who really seeks me is going to find me.
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And I think part of the problem is that we haven't
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really sought Him. And so here's the question.
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What do you need to have an effective prayer
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life? And I'm closing. Some of you guys are like,
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this guy's going on forever. I'm closing. The
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first thing you need to have an effective prayer
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life, if you want to write this down in all caps,
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you need to be right with God. God doesn't need
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to have something in your life that offends Him.
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God doesn't need to look at you and see that
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you say you're following Him and you're sleeping
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with your girlfriend or your boyfriend. God doesn't
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need to look at your life and hear you say that
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you follow Him. I'm just using extreme examples
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right now for the fun of it, but you go to the
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church of Satan and give them an offering and
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you decide to just join them for worship. That's
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not going to work. And we look at the extreme
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examples and say, of course, if I'm having sex
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with somebody outside of marriage or worshiping
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Satan, God isn't going to forgive me. But let
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me tell you something, friend. Even down to the
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things you think in your heart, if you look at
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a woman with lust, you've committed adultery
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with her. According to Jesus, if you hate your
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brother, you've murdered them in your heart.
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According to Jesus, it's not just the things
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you do outwardly, it's what's in here. Because
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out of... everything that happens in life. Out
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of everything that you do, it flows from this
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place. It's a corruption that goes down to the
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very soul. You've got to be right with God. Listen,
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there's a day coming when you and I are going
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to stand before the judge of all. And we're going
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to be alone. You don't get to lean on Your husband.
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I don't get to say, hey, Sidney, do you want
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to come stand before Jesus with me and tell Him
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to have a little bit of mercy? I mean, He might
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listen to her more than me. But I don't get to
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do that. I don't get to sit here and say, Mom,
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Dad, tell Jesus about how great I was. I don't
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get to say, hey, look at all this money I donated.
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Look at all these good things I did. In Matthew
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7, people come to Jesus and they say, have we
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not healed the sick in Your name? Have we not
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casted out demons? Have we not prophesied? Have
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we not done the great mighty works of God? And
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Jesus says, but you didn't know Me. Depart from
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Me, you workers of lawlessness. It wasn't just
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that they didn't know Him. It was that they worked
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in iniquity. They lived in sin. They lived in
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a way that offended Him. And listen, this is
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so important because Jesus Christ is not just
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a normal person. He's the very Son of God Himself.
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And He did not have to come and die on a cross
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for you and me. God gave me life. He gave me
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breath in my lungs. He gave me an earth. He gave
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me opportunity. And I chose, instead of stewarding
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that well, to spit in His face and say, I don't
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care what you want. I'm going to live as I do.
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He made me good. He made Adam and Eve good. And
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we decided to corrupt the goodness that He made
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in us. And He didn't have to redeem us. This
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is typically when people are like, whoa, this
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guy's crazy. He could have left us in our mess.
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And we always want to talk about what somebody
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deserves. You want to get what you deserve? Go
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to hell. That's what we deserve. I deserve to
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go to hell for my sins. Every one of us do because
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we've offended a holy God. But Jesus came because
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He loves us so much that He said, listen, I'm
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going to take your place. You and I were bound
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by three things. We were bound by sin. There's
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nothing we could do to overcome it. We were bound
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by the devil. There's nothing we could do to
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defeat him. And we were bound by death. Death
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will come for us all. But God did not have to
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experience any of those things. And when Jesus
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came as a man, He overcame sin on our behalf.
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By defeating the devil in the wilderness, he
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overcame Satan by casting out demons and showing
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how weak he was. And he overcame death by taking
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it on and coming back from the grave. And this
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is what Jesus did. He looked at you and I and
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said, I know you're bound. I know you're in a
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prison of your own making. But he said, I defeated
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the guards and I unlocked the door. And you got
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two choices. You can stay in the door until it
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shuts. Or you can walk out of the open door and
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follow me. He died on our behalf to restore us
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to right relationship with God and to free us.
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Now I want you to imagine something with me.
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Imagine that you give everything within yourself
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for somebody. And they look at you and they trample
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on your offering. Imagine that you're the father
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and you give your son or your daughter. I couldn't
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give my daughter for people. Jesus is so much
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more loving than me because I would have been
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like, I'm not doing it. But the father gave his
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son on behalf of all of us to open a door back
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to himself. And sometimes we think that we can
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trample on the blood of Christ. That we can lift
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up hands in church. We can say the right words.
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We can read our Bible. But we can turn around
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and trample on His sacrifice and we're good.
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Every head bowed, every eye closed for a second.
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I want you to take a moment. Are you right with
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God? Listen, when I became a Christian man, I
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couldn't go party anymore. My friends would invite
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me to a party and I would feel convicted if I
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even thought about it and I had to walk away
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from it. I had to say no more. When I got saved,
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Jesus did something in me. Are you still living
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in sin? Are you right with God? If you're not
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right with God, He's not going to hear us when
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we approach Him. We don't get the open door of
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His presence. Here's my question. If you're not
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sure if you would die today and you'd go to heaven
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or hell, if you've got something in your life
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that you know is separating you from God, Or
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if you feel a holy conviction right now, like
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you know you need to get right with him, I want
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you to slip up your hand. Every head's bowed,
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every eye's closed. I see that hand. God bless
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you. God bless you. God bless you. Come on. God
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bless you. God bless you. Some of you right now,
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you feel a presence on you. And you know what
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that is? That's this. That's Jesus Christ knocking
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on the door of your heart. You know, sometimes
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we hear a knock on the door and we're annoyed
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and we don't want to deal with it because we've
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got other things going on. Sometimes we think
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that's just a worthless deal. You know, when
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I lived in Searcy, I had Mormons knocking on
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the door sometimes. And we were like, don't open
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the door. A delivery man comes by. I don't want
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to deal with him. He's not important right now.
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And for some of you right now, Jesus is... knocking
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on the door of your heart and you're treating
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Him like a delivery man, like a nuisance. I want
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you to hear me today. Hebrews says that today
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is the day of salvation. Do not harden your heart.
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If you're in this room and you're not right with
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God, you don't know if you were to die today
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if you'd go to heaven or hell. I want you to
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slip up your hand. Now's the day. Now's the time.
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Pastor, I don't know if you want to come up and
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play music or have them play a track in the back.
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Just a few more seconds. If that's you, slip
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up your hand. Now here's what we're going to
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do. Everything in Christianity is public. When
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you decide to give your life to Christ, it's
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not something that you do in a private room.
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It's something you do before the body of Christ
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and nobody judges us. If somebody judges us,
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then they need to come up here and be right beside
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you. I don't care who you are. I don't care what
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everybody thinks about you. If you slipped up
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your hand and you were serious about giving your
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life to Christ, I want you to stand. Stand. Come
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on. Come on. God bless you. God bless you. Come
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up here. Come on. I want to pray with you. I
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want to pray with you. The second thing you need
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for God to have an effective prayer life is persistence.
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Some of you in this room, you pray maybe five
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minutes a day, and that's a great starting place,
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but at some point we've got to move a little
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bit further. If I spent three seconds talking
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to my wife every day, we wouldn't have a good
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relationship. How many of you think you'd have
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a strong marriage if you spent five minutes talking
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to your spouse and nothing else? Sometimes the
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reason why we feel like our prayer life isn't
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working is because God's saying, I'm not answering
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so that you'll come closer to me. If you're in
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this room today and you feel convicted that you
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need to take your prayer life just a little bit
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further, I'm not saying eight hours a day. I'm
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not saying fast seven weeks out of the year.
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I'm saying maybe you spend 10 minutes with God
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and you need to start spending 20 minutes. Maybe
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you spend 30 minutes with him and you need to
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start giving him a little bit more time. You
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feel a conviction on your life to give more time
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to him. If that's you, I want you to come up
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here too. I want you to come up here too. And
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for those of you up here who are here to give
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your life to Christ, it's very simple. He died
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for you and he asks you to die for him. Now he'll
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be here, he'll hold your hand, he'll walk you
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through life, he'll set you free from things,
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but you gotta have something in you that says,
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I'm not gonna quit. Are you ready to do that?
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Are you ready to do that? Everybody in the church,
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join me in this prayer, and then we're just going
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to have a Holy Spirit moment, okay? Say, dear
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Jesus. Come on, come on, we can do better than
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that. I want us to pray out loud. Say, dear Jesus.
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Beautiful. I believe you are the Son of God.
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I believe you died on a cross for my sins. And
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Lord, right now, I ask you to forgive me, to
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cleanse me, and to help me follow you all my
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days. Amen. If you guys really mean that, you
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believe that, in this moment, I'm going to pray
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for you, and I believe God's going to touch you.
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I believe, I'm not saying you're going to fall
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on the floor and start laughing, but I believe
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that something's going to happen in you that's
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going to change you from this moment on.