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Ep. 014 An Atheist Enabled me to Believe
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Welcome to the Potter's House Salmon Arm podcast. We are a Bible-Believing Church located
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to you and bring you closer to God.
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Hello and welcome back to the podcast again. My name is David Bickford. I'm the pastor
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here at the Potter's House in Salmon Arm. And today, before we jump in, I just want
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to give you a little bit of a background of who I am so that you know a little bit more
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about me and what we're doing up here at the Potter's House in Salmon Arm.
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My name is David and I was sent out last year to start a work for God in the town of Salmon
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Arm, British Columbia. My background is a little complex. If you've been listening,
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you know I was in the United States Marine Corps from when I was 18. And I spent five
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years there as a helicopter crew chief and mechanic on CH-53 Sikorsky, which is a large
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helicopter. I loved my time in the Marine Corps. I got to deploy to Japan and I also
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spent some time in the Middle East for the Iraqi freedom. And so I spent about nine months
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over there in theater in Kuwait and Iraq and way back in 2003. After getting out, I had
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actually had the opportunity. I worked for the Navy overhauling the same aircraft. And
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then I also did some time in the Air Force Reserve as an aerial porter loading aircraft.
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And all that time, I was also working towards my bachelor's and my master's degrees. So
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to kind of give you an idea though, I got saved when I was in the Marine Corps when
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I was about 19 years old. And it was life changing, obviously. It was a dramatic change
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in my life. I was headed down a dark path. I was a drunk and I was quite violent. And
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I was destroying the thing I'd worked so hard for, which was to become a United States Marine.
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And so I got saved in February 2001 while I was deployed just on a training operation
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outside of Yuma, Arizona. And it was my friend, John Morris, that led me to the Lord there.
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And so that's where I started going to church with the Christian Fellowship Ministries at
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the Quarterstone Church in San Diego. As time went on, I ended up getting married. And my
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wife being from Canada, we ended up moving up to Canada. And I started going to the Potter
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South Church in Chilliwack, British Columbia. I went there for about a decade, I believe,
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before getting sent out to start this work for God. So that's just a little bit about
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me. And I'll try to give some more information about who I am and what's going on. But me
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and my wife, Sarah, we're pioneering this church here in Salmon Arm. We're dedicated to reaching
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the lost and seeing people set free from the bondage of sin in Jesus' name. And so with that,
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I'm going to go ahead and jump in with the message I have today. So it's titled, An Atheist
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Enabled Me to Believe, a Spiritual Transformation is the subheading. And the text we'll be working
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from is Matthew 7, 15 through 20. So one of the things I was looking at when working and
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putting together this sermon is I was reading the book, The Mission Drift by Peter Greer.
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And in there, there's a segment where it uses that term, An Atheist Enabled Me to Believe.
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And so it says, It was an atheist who convinced me, Chris, that our world needs more than just
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good humanitarianism. Matthew Paris, a British journalist, wrote in the London Times,
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As an atheist, I truly believe Africa needs God. In a day and age in which many in our
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society believe Christianity to be irrelevant or at best, irrelevant at best or dangerous
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at worst, Paris's conviction shocked me. In his article, he repeatedly asserted his belief,
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his unbelief in God, but he admitted that his own beliefs are insufficient to solve the issues of
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corruption and poverty in our world. Shortly after a trip to Africa, he wrote, Now a confirmed
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atheist, I have become convinced the enormous contributions that Christian evangelism makes
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in Africa, sharply distinct from the work of the secular NGOs, non-governmental agencies,
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or organizations, government projects and international aid efforts. These alone will not,
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will not do. Education and training alone will not do. In Africa, Christianity changes people's
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hearts. It brings a spiritual transformation. The rebirth is real. The change is good. Paris is
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clear. The message of Jesus is the solution. Christianity frees people. African Christians
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stand tall because they know they are made in God's image and they understand their personal
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responsibility to make a difference in their communities. They submit to a higher moral code.
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So I find this to be a pretty interesting admission and that's why I believe it and I truly
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believe it takes a lot more faith to deny God and to be an atheist than it does to see what God could
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do in your own life and have that transformation become real in you. So let's look at our text in
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Matthew 7, 15 through 20. A tree and its fruit. Beware of false prophets who come to you in
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sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will recognize them by their fruits.
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Are grapes gathered from thorn brushes or figs from thistles? So every healthy tree bears good
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fruit, but the diseased bear bears bad fruit. A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a
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diseased tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into
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the fire. Thus you will recognize them by their fruits. Amen. So a powerful message even in today's
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world. We see we're starting to see something happen in the world. We're seeing movie stars,
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we're seeing recording artists come to the Lord and we're seeing a lot of them actually make stands
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immediately for the Lord and even to the point of some of them stepping out of the industries
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they've been a part of for years because they feel led by the Lord to be something different,
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their new creation in Jesus name. And so we obviously pray and hope that that continues and
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that they're they're they mature in Christ and that they continue to bear good fruit because
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that's exciting to see a changed life, a very exciting thing. Our world today is constantly
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being bombarded with the idea that religion is for the weak and it is something that people who
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are unintelligent or lacking in logic fall into. This is on purpose and I can't emphasize that
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enough that this is on purpose. In fact I was just reading a quote from C.S. Lewis. I'll see if I can
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find it here off the cuff real quick. I find it to be a pretty poignant, I apologize it's not from
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C.S. Lewis, it's from G.K. Chesterton. It says the Christian ideal has not been tried and found
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wanting. It has been found difficult and left untried. So again that's from G.K. Chesterton.
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And the quote is the Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting. It has been found
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difficult and left untried. And that's certainly true in our day and age. Oftentimes people are not
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complaining that the Christian way of living or to live as a Christian is difficult or is easy,
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right? They're saying it's too hard. They're saying it's too difficult to live as a Christian.
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They're saying it's too hard and that because it's hard therefore I'm not even going to try.
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I'm going to discount it and not try because it's difficult. But it is fruitful and that's
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something we want to look at. In 1 Corinthians 1.23 it says, but we preach Christ crucified,
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a stumbling block to the Jews and a folly to the Gentiles. Romans 11.7-10 it says, what then?
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Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened.
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As it is written, God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that
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would not hear down to this very day. And David says, let their table become a snare and a trap
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and a stumbling block and retribution for them. Let their eyes be darkened so that they cannot see
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and bend their backs forever. The scripture points us to the reality that without a knowledge of a
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living God, we will be like a ship without a rudder. We were chasing the wind and we are only left
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with our fickle nature and our own desires to move us forward in this world. That might seem cruel,
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but it is for the sake of the elect. It is for those who open their hearts to Christ and allow
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themselves to be changed by the message of Christ and receive salvation by grace through Christ.
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That brings me to my first point, which is purpose, point, and price. As we think about the
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excerpt from the illustration, it's helpful to ask yourself, what is the purpose of atheism?
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The reality is there is no purpose in the belief of atheism because it is the belief in nothingness.
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And how can it bring purpose to life if it at its essence is the belief in nothing?
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If you were to go to American Atheist website, you would see that they define themselves this way.
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Atheism is one thing, a lack of belief in gods. Atheism is not an affirmative belief that there
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is no god, nor does it answer any other questions about what a person believes. It is simply a
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rejection of the assertion that there are gods. Atheism is too often defined incorrectly as a
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belief system. To be clear, atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods, it is a
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lack of belief in gods. Older dictionaries define atheism as a belief that there is no god. Clearly,
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theistic influence tates these definitions. The fact that dictionaries define atheism as
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there is no god betrays the monotheistic influence. Without the monotheistic influence,
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the definition would at least read there are no gods. This self-description identifies the reality
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that even within the atheist community, there is an acceptance of lacking. They adamantly say that
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unbelief is different than belief. And I'm not here to debate the logic of atheism because I know
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that Christ died for me and that through him I am saved by grace. I had a personal encounter with
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Jesus Christ and I see him at work within me, my family, and all around the world. As I mentioned
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in the beginning, that time out in the desert of Yuma, Arizona, when I came to the cross in my own
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life and I gave my life to Jesus Christ was a personal transformative experience. And to me,
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it's undeniable that I came into relationship with Jesus Christ. Now, what I want to highlight is
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that without purpose there is no point and that when there is no point, there is no price. The
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system of unbelief causes many to falter and stumble because it focuses all energies inward
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on the individual. And as we know from the Bible, the human heart can be deceitful and wicked.
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And Jeremiah 17, 9 through 10, it says, the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately sick.
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Who can understand it? If I, the Lord, search the heart and test the mind to give every man
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according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds. It just as an aside too, I heard
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another quote, I can't remember where this one was from, but it was actually I think just an
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Instagram post where a kid was talking about atheism. And it was a comedian and he was saying
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that atheists will deny God, but yet they believe in nothingness and that when you die, you return
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to nothingness. So in a way they believe that their creator is nothing and they return to their
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creator of nothing when they die because there's nothing after death. So it's almost a circular
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logic too, because they believe in a theology, whether they deny it or not, that requires
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a tremendous amount of faith. But when we look at the rise of 20th century socialism, communism,
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we see a world that is striving to worship itself. The idea of evolution is one of where
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humanity pulls itself up through force and makes a utopia of a world by eradicating God
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and while proving his very existence. There are several examples of the cruelty when you remember
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the cruelty when you remove the boundaries of God's morality. During the Holomor or the
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Ukrainian genocide of 1932 to 33, the people of Ukraine came under the control of Soviet Russia.
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As communism swept the land, starvation quickly followed. The Workers' Party stole the land from
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farmers and created a famine that within a very short window drove many crazy. Starvation quickly
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led to all sorts of wickedness, including cannibalism. The governing authorities posted
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propaganda posters saying, remember, it's wrong to eat your children. I'll let that sink in for just
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a second. It's they had to post propaganda posters to remind people who were starving,
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remember, it's wrong to eat your children. This isn't the first time this happened in the Soviet
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happened during the 1921 famine in Russia.
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Remember, it's wrong to eat your kids.
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My point here is not to highlight the wrongs
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of the Soviet Union, but rather what quickly happens
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to man when we refuse to acknowledge God.
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Christ in the gospel is our purpose,
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salvation is the point, and there is no price too high
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for the grace that we have received.
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This is why an atheist like Matthew Paris
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knows that Christian missionaries will do more with less
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to see Africa saved.
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In 2 Kings 6, 24-31, we see the image of the siege
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of Samaria, Ben-Hadad's siege of Samaria.
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So in verse 24, afterward, Ben-Hadad, king of Syria,
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mustered his entire army and went up and besieged Samaria.
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And there was a great famine in Samaria,
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and they besieged it until a donkey's head was sold
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for 80 shekels of silver, and the fourth part
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of a cab of doves dung for five shekels of silver.
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Now, as the king of Israel, Jehoram, son of Ahab,
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was passing by on the wall, a woman cried out to him,
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saying, help my lord, oh king.
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And he said, if the lord will not help you,
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how shall I help you?
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From the threshing floor or from the wine press?
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And then the king asked her, what is your trouble?
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She answered, this woman said to me, give your son
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that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow.
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So he boiled my son and ate him, and on the next day
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I said to her, give your son that we may eat him,
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but she has hidden her son.
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And when the king heard the words of the woman,
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he tore his clothes, now he was passing by on the wall,
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and the people looked, and behold, he had sackcloth
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beneath on his body, and he said, may God do so to me,
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and more also, if the head of Elijah, the son of Shaphat,
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remains at his shoulders today.
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So this portion of scripture shows us that even God's
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chosen people can fall so far away from his calling
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and his purpose.
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In fact, if you look at the reaction of Jehoram,
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it's pretty startling.
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Instead of repenting and turning to God,
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he curses the prophet Elijah and calls for his head.
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And that brings me to my next point,
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which is secularism and relative truth.
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In today's age, we are told to let go of our biblical faith.
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What we are given in return or in place of our faith
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is secularism and relative truth.
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That's what they want to replace God and absolute truth with,
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is secularism and relative truth.
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Secularists can also be defined as atheists or agnostics.
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An atheist is one who says there is sufficient evidence
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to show that God does not exist and agnostic is one
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who says there's insufficient evidence to know whether
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or not God exists.
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The functional atheist is one who is apathetic
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concerning God's existence.
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For the purpose of this profile, the term secularist
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will be used to indicate all three.
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So during the time of the Renaissance
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and with the invention of the printing press,
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there was an explosion of information.
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And not unlike our own time and the invention
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of the internet, smartphone, social media.
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This expansion of accessible information allowed
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for the Protestant Reformation, but it also allowed
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for the contesting ideas to be pitted against each other.
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The rise of the scientific method was often being used
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to contest belief in God.
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This was not by mistake, but was done purposely
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because some groups were afraid of losing power
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in order to maintain control.
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They wanted to separate and divide people into camps.
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Here's an excerpt from an article I found highlighting
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this point written by Dean Halverson,
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director of apologetics for the international students.
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Toward the end of the Renaissance, the modern method
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of empirical science began to develop the key players
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or develop the key players were Nicholas Copernicus,
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Johann Kepler and Galileo Galilei.
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Although it may seem ironic now, each of these men believed
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in a Christian God.
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They viewed science as a studying the handiwork
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of the Almighty Creator discerning his natural laws.
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Galileo considered God to have written two books,
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the Bible and nature.
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Contrary to popular belief, the cause for diversions
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between Christianity and science originated not
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with the church, but with the university professors
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who were threatened by Galileo's revolutionary ideas.
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These professors were steeped in Greek scientific method
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which included observation to a small extent,
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but mostly explained the workings of nature
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through rational deduction from first principles
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or assumptions, an entire view
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of the universe had been built up.
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Consequently, the professors embraced such misconceptions
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as the sun having no imperfections,
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the moon being a perfectly smooth sphere that's shown
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with its own light and the earth alone having a moon
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since the earth was at the center of the universe.
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Galileo's recently invented telescope quickly demonstrated
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the incorrectness of such assumptions.
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Not willing to be thwarted by Galileo,
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the professors decided to make the controversy religious
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rather than academic.
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They argued that the heliocentric sun centered view
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contradicted scripture.
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They pulled from Psalm 10422 saying the sun rises,
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therefore the sun must revolve around a stationary earth.
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In fact, in the face of what at the time appeared
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to be genuine contradiction between scripture
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and the heliocentric theory,
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the theologians of the Roman Catholic Church had no choice
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but to condemn Galileo's view because the conflict
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had challenged the authority of the church.
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And as a result, the controversy,
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the schism between reason and faith had begun.
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And there were now two apparently irreconcilable sources
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of truth, the church and science.
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So what point am I trying to make with this?
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Like, let's look at our text again.
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And before I jump back into the text,
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just think about this, think about how it had to be
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non-believers twisting the scripture
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in order to fit a narrative that they wanted to push
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so that they could try to maintain their power.
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Because that's what we see a lot in today's day.
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We see people who don't believe in the word of God
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try to take pieces of the word of God,
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twist it to make it either make themselves look better
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or make Christians look worse.
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And then they try to push it back
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as being a religion problem
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when it's actually an unbeliever issue.
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It's the unbelief of those individuals
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that can cause schisms to be created.
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And just like with the example of Galileo
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and what happened to a lot of early Protestants even
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is this idea that the power sources
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are going to be contested.
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And so then therefore they're gonna make it an argument
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that it never was intended to be.
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So in our text again at 15, it says,
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but where false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing
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but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
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We see that from this example from history.
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You will recognize them by their fruits, just dissension,
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just trying to cause problems within the body.
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Are grapes gathered from thorn bushes or figs from thistles?
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So every healthy tree bears good fruit,
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but the diseased trees bear bad fruit.
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A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit
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nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit.
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Every tree that does not bear good fruit
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is cut down and thrown into the fire.
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Thus you will recognize them by their fruits.
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As Matthew Paris recognized in Africa,
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we need to recognize within ourselves.
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Our truth as Christians must come from the word of God.
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We must base our beliefs on the Bible,
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our morality, our passions, our purpose
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must reside in the word.
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In the article above, we can see that the natural human
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reaction to pressure is to divide and separate.
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The goal is to assert power and relativism is a tool
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that's used for this purpose.
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And John 18, 37 to 38 says, then Pilate said to him,
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so you are king, Jesus answered.
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You say that I am king for the purpose I was born
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and for this purpose I have come into the world
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to bear witness to the truth.
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Everyone who is of the truth listens to my voice.
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Then Pilate said to him, what is truth?
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The world will use relative truth in order to obfuscate
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or make unclear Christ's message.
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That is why so many will try to fit Jesus
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into other faiths or pantheons.
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It's also why so many will give up so much of the word
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of God while claiming to still hold true to Christ.
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In reality, this is folly because Christ proclaims
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he is the truth and the light and that through his words
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and teaching that's the only way we will find
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a path to salvation.
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Which brings me to my final point, which is Christ died
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so that others shall live.
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The truth of the gospel is very succinct.
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Christ is the son of God, the fulfillment
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of all the Old Testament prophecies and promises.
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He came to earth to be a sacrifice that we needed,
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to be the sacrifice that we needed
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and to atone for our sins.
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He died and rose from the dead so that those who believe
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in him will be saved.
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In Philippians 2, 9 through 11 it says,
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God has highly exalted him and bestowed upon him
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the name that is above every name
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so that the name of Jesus every knee shall bow
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in heaven and on earth and under earth
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and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord
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to the glory of God the Father.
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Second Timothy 4, 1 through 5 says,
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and it's a charge to us to preach the word,
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I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus
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who is to judge the living and the dead
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by his appearing and his kingdom, preach the word,
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be ready in season and out of season,
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reprove, re-prove, rebuke and exhort
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with complete patience and teaching.
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For the time is coming when people will not endure
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sound teaching, but having itching ears,
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they will accumulate for themselves teachers
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to suit their own passions and will turn away
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from listening to the truth and wander off into myth.
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As for you, always be sober minded, enduring suffering,
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do the work of an evangelist and fulfill your ministry.
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And Romans 3, 23 it says,
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for all of sin that falls short of the glory of God,
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the world will contend for our attention
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and it will use every opportunity to distract us from Jesus.
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It will try to embarrass you for holding on
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to the absolute truth of the gospel.
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It will try to move you with words and phrases
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like open your mind, find your own truth, love is love.
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The danger of relativism is that it allows
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for every individual to live according
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to their own desires.
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Why do we need absolute truth?
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It is not enough to understand
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why we need absolute truth.
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With no absolute truth, there are no longer any standards.
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I believe it's safe to say many of our standards
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which were once considered absolute truths
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are now under attack in our society.
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Not just here in Canada, but in America,
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but all around the world, when the standards are removed,
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the people are free to do what they want.
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And we become a society that lives by relative truth.
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While some may see this as liberating,
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I see this as disastrous.
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We would become like Israel
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at the end of the book of Judges.
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In those days, Israel had no king, all people did
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whatever seemed right in their eyes.
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Judges 21, 25.
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And we're starting to see this today, right?
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We see the conflict in Israel
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and the terrorist attack that caused
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this main thrust of this war that's going on right now.
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And we're only like a month beyond
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when this war really kicked off because of that terrorist act.
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And already we see the leading Ivy League colleges
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in the United States trying to make exceptions
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for genocidal rhetoric of one group
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while claiming the other group that is actually the one
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that is defending an actual attack that happened onto them
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and saying that they were wrong, even though there was peace,
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there were opportunities for negotiation on October 6th
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and then on October 7th, there was none.
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But it's interesting that the highest thinkers
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of our society are making excuses and saying,
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oh, well, we need to understand the context
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of why people are calling for genocide of the Jewish people.
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These same people were telling us about the importance
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of watching the way we speak because words are violence
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and silence is violence.
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And if you were to take any group and replace
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what people are calling the genocide of the Jews,
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if you were to replace Jew and place any other group
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in there, then those same college professors
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would immediately claim, those college presidents
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would immediately claim that it is against their code
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of conduct, but they can't bring themselves to saying
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that it's against their code of conduct right now
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because of moral relativism.
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And because all their learning has allowed them
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to come to a place where they cannot see truth for truth.
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In John 14, six, it says, Jesus said to him,
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I am the way, the truth and the life.
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No one comes to the Father except through me.
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This statement shuts the door to any other way
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of getting to the Father and any other hope of salvation.
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If you believe this, you will experience the benefit
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of this truth.
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However, your belief is not necessary for this to be true.
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This will be true whether you believe it
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or choose not to believe it.
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Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father
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and that will never change.
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So as I close, let's review.
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Michael Paris has a self proclamation as an atheist
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was able to clearly identify the need for Christianity
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in Africa because his own truth was insufficient
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to meet the needs of the African people.
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Without the necessary spiritual change in the people,
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there could be no lasting improvement.
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Also, secular organizations are not equipped
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for this task at hand because they have no message for hope.
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Even if they were to lift people up out of poverty,
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it does not deal with the spiritual, emotional,
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or societal issues that will still be present
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in their situation.
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And this is a problem that we also see in our own country.
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Another thing that we see in our own country
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is that the people who are in need
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are just not able to do what they want to do.
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So they don't have the ability to do what they want to do.
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Another aside to that is that much of the secular world
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when they go into Africa are trying to push
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what the first world considers green initiatives
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that make it very, very difficult
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for these emerging economies to be able to grow
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and sustain themselves.
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So that's a problem that we've come to.
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But while not recognizing the reality
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of what made the Western society strong
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was these energy sources that we've been able to use
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for the last 100 plus years.
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And they've gotten much cleaner since then.
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So, but yet we want to make it more difficult
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for these other countries.
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So what hope does that bring?
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It doesn't bring hope.
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The secular world doesn't have answers for that.
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The secular world also doesn't have answers
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for the sickness that is in our soul.
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Our ailment is sin.
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And no matter how hard humanity tries
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to solve the sin problem while denying the sin problem,
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they can never be successful because Christ is the only way.
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The Soviets in Russia, China, Vietnam,
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and throughout the world tried an atheistic route
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that leads to horrible pain and atrocities.
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Other countries strive and fail.
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Western democracies are rotting because of the sin problem.
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The only answer, the only truth is Christ.
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But they shun and ridicule the answer
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while continuing to tear each other apart.
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And that is why we as Christians must hold to the truth.
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I want to reiterate the words of Paul
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and what he said to Timothy in 2 Timothy 4.
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I charge you in the presence of God and Jesus Christ,
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who is the judge of the living and the dead,
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by his appearing in his kingdom,
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preach the word, be ready, end season and out of season,
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reprove, rebuke, and exhort
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with complete patience and teaching.
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For the time is coming when people
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will not endure sound teaching,
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but having itching ears,
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they will accumulate for themselves,
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teachers to suit their passions,
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and will turn away from listening to the truth
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and wander off into myths.
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As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering,
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do the work of an evangelist and fulfill your ministry.
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Finally, our text tells us, in Jesus' word,
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thus you will recognize them by their fruits.
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We must then strive to live a life that bears fruit
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so that those who are still lost
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will be able to recognize God through our fruit, our works.
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Christian testimony challenges Michael Paris's unbelief
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because we have more to work for and live for
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than the belief of nothing.
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And we know the King is on his throne,
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and we should strive in patience to work
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so that others will come to the absolute truth.
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Humbly we serve a living God so that others might be saved.
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So if you're driving, obviously keep your eyes on the road,
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but if not, if you're just listening along,
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you know, I like every head bowed, every eye closed,
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because at the end of every message, there's an invitation.
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If this message is resonated with you,
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if you feel the pull of the Holy Spirit
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and you know that you're a sinner
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and you wanna get right with God,
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then right now signify that with an uplifted hand.
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I can't see it, but God can.
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And if you did raise your hand,
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if God is speaking to you now
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and you know that he's speaking to you now
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and you wanna get your heart rate, it's very simple.
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Just repeat after me, dear Lord God,
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I know that I'm a sinner.
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I know that I have fallen short of the mark,
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but I repent of my sin.
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I turn away from my sin and I accept you
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as my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
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I let you into my heart to be my Lord, to be my King.
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In Jesus' name, I give you all the praise and glory, amen.
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Very simple prayer.
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All that is, is the recognition of sin
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and acceptance of Jesus as your Lord.
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And so that, that is salvation.
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That is that simple admission of repentance
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and acceptance of God's grace
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is what it means to be saved.
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And I pray that God would fill you with the Holy Spirit,
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overflowing, and that you would go
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and you'd find a church to lock into.
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If you're in Sammonar,
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we'd love to have you come and join us.
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But if you're not and you wanna reach out,
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I would be more than happy to point you in the direction
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of one of our 3,000 fellowship churches globally,
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because God is moving in these last days.
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And we want you to be part of the body of Christ.
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So I just, I'm gonna close in prayer real quick.
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Dear Lord, I thank you for everything
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that you're doing in our lives.
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And I pray that this message goes to the root,
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goes to the heart of everybody listening
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and helps us to be more fruitful as we go forward
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in the service of our Lord, our Lord Jesus Christ, amen.
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Thanks for listening.
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And I can't wait for you to come back next time.
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