God speaks through dreams

Hi, this is Dave Olson. I'm the senior leader of

Heartland Church located in Ankeny, IA.

I hope the following message challenges, encourages and

ultimately changes you. Thanks for joining us.

So we have Chris Berglund with us this weekend, and I know I've

been talking about Chris for a number of months, telling you

that I invited him. I met Chris through Dean Briggs.

We were together down in Burlington and then we did a

conference together over in Omaha and I just fell in love

with him. I'd heard of Chris for many,

many years. I've heard Lou Engel.

We've hosted Lou several times and he always talks about this,

his personal profit, his dreamer.

And and so it was Chris and they've been connected for many

years. Chris made a comment yesterday

that I think is worth repeating. He, he as he was teaching, he

was talking about how he and Lou were just doing AQ and a time

recently and Lou was talking about how, you know, this, this

tremendous dreamer that's sitting next to him that he's

had in his life. And, and Lou is kind of

leveraged that in his life. And, and Chris stopped him and,

and, and said, you know, you need to understand something.

Chris that or Lou, I didn't. I didn't dream like I do until I

connected with you. And he, he put it this way, he

said my dreams had no missional value until I connected with

you. And all of a sudden there was a

purpose behind those dreams. I'm sure that other people had

been blessed previously, but it's a lesson in this that when

we find the tribe and the people were to run with, all of a

sudden our gifts are heightened. There's there's they come

online, so to speak. It's like they're they're

heightened. And and our mission, Our

Calling, our assignment in life is connected to those around us.

And so there's no way for us to enter into what God has for us

without one another. We've talked about this before,

but fusions is very clear. The fullness of God is in the

body. Ephesians chapter one last two

verses. He hath put everything under

Christ's feet. Comma for the church, comma the

fullness of him. You have a piece, I have a

piece. But when none of us will ever

have the fullness and in fact, God will withhold from you what

you need in your quiet time so that you'll get it through

fellowship and community. There are things that you need

you will never get with just you and Jesus because he designed it

that way. It's going to be the Jesus and

someone else that's going to meet your need.

And as we were talking about the, I've never seen it this

way, but it's like a puzzle piece, you know, it's like the

puzzle. A puzzle has a picture on it.

That's one of the ways, you know, But then the pieces fit

together. There's a void in one that the

other fills, and as they click together, all of a sudden you

get a greater picture. And every one of us are a piece

of the puzzle, but we need the one sitting next to us.

And often God will hide the very thing you need and the person

that irritates you the most. Now, that'll be for another

Sunday morning. We'll talk about that.

But anyway, I've just really grown to appreciate Chris and he

and he, he runs with a group of intercessors, prophetic

intercessors for a number of years.

It's fascinating the way they do it.

We've learned a lot from them from afar on how they steward

the word of the Lord and pray that.

And so it's just a pleasure to have Chris.

Chris, come on. Let's give Chris Berglund a good

heartland welcome. Yeah.

Love you, man, Bless you. Love you.

Yeah, I think, I think Dave is right.

I don't think there was really any value to anybody else

besides me and my dream life before Lou because I wasn't

giving anybody. I think that my dream life was

encouraging to me and the Lord would speak to me.

But when we connected covenantally is when that

missional covenantal heart and we made a we had the language of

Jonathan and David. I want to say that with Lou, and

this was 40 years ago, you know what Jonathan did with David,

right? He gave him his cloak.

Basically, Jonathan is in is the Prince and he's in line to the

throne and he's, he's clothing David and said, it's OK if

you're the one in line to the throne, which he was, right?

He's giving him his his identity.

And there's something that happens in covenantal

relationships where Luke gave me his identity, his calling for

the nations. And so I wore that.

I wear that. And then my dream had missional

value to it. I share that because it really

didn't have. I don't remember my dreams

affecting anyone else besides me until we made covenant together.

I do remember one of the first I shared I think yesterday

dreaming is easy. You just go to sleep right?

And you there's nothing to brag about.

It's like maybe it's worse than bragging because you God can't

speak to you in the daytime. He puts you to sleep right.

So you're so dull on the put you to sleep and but there is a

preparation I and I don't want to negate the preparation the

Lord showed me early on. You know, this is how you know

there's always levels of interpretation right of

Scripture. And I remember the Lord speaking

to me and don't let the sun go down on your wrath.

And he was speaking to me in the context, Chris, because if you

have wrath, if you go down, let the sun go down your wrath, you

will not dream, you will not have the pure dream life because

you're hindering the flow of the spirit at night.

And then he would encourage me. I know for for our team, we go

on assignments and we may spend 2 weeks or 4 weeks or or

whatever, praying, fasting, breaking fast, starting again

during the fast. But I there won't those nights.

The preparation is making sure there's no offense in the heart.

I'm making sure I'm praying in the spirit.

I want to enter into the most holy faith, right?

I want to go into the, the the place with the Lord without

there. All's I'm saying is no matter

what the gifting and calling is on our life, there is a there is

a surrender that allows that gifting to flow.

So I don't want to minimize the consecration because the

consecration in the Kingdom with one another.

And that's why it was such a joy to meet to covenant with Lou,

because you don't always find a man that's so consecrated that's

night and day. He's just thinking about Jesus

and revival, right? It's just he wakes up in the

morning, goes to sleep at night. He's burning.

He's burning with the Lord's heart for the nations and, and

so there is a great cost in the, in the, you know, I, this is

kind of funny, but we, we had taken 70 young people from the

Trail of Tears. The Lord, we had a dream and in

the dream, the Lord told us that we had to wear the shoes of the

Native Americans to overcome abortion in the land because of

what, what we found out was that the first abortions in the land

were the some of the white men ripping open the wombs of the

Native Americans in the war, in the battles and stuff.

Some of the first, I'm not saying it was necessarily the

first, but it was. So we took these 70 young

people. We were going to walk the Trail

of Tears from Charlotte area to Oklahoma and oh, so we're in the

middle of this long fast, Lou. Lou thought it'd be a good idea

to start with a 40 day fast. So we're on this 40 day fast and

he didn't feel like we were doing that well.

So somebody has a dream. We're supposed to do an Ester

fast. I'm like, you got to be kidding.

We're on a 40 day water fast. Now you want us to go 3 days

with no food? I remember we were young.

I remember telling one of the young people, he said, can we

brush our teeth? I said, no, you can't.

You can't use toothpaste and you can't, you know, and don't sit

in the shower and open your mouth.

It was totally, really legalistic.

It was not God. And yeah, got some of those

stories. I pastored.

I shouldn't have been pastoring. I'm not a pastor, but I helped

the Korean church and they asked us to come and help them walk

through some difficulties for three months and it ended up to

be 3 1/2 years. And I remember calling a fast

and one of the young Korean girls called me and said, can I

do this this certain fast? I said no problem, you'll you'll

be fine. I think I don't know what it

was, but I get a call the next day.

She's in the emergency room. I'm like, OK, well you didn't

tell me you had these different issues.

Anyway, so a guy prophesied to me and said I'd be a pastor and

I knew he was missing it. I thought there is no way.

And then I got tricked. Jehovah, Sneaky, whatever his

name is, my wife's the pastor. My one of the Koreans came to my

wife and said we really feel like since Chris's pastor that

he should stand at the door and greet people.

My wife goes, if you want a greeter, you're going to have to

do it yourself. My husband's not going to sit at

the door anyway. Sorry.

That's what happens when you're an introvert.

You're like, that's your greatest fear, right?

Your greatest fear is being in church.

And the pastor gets up and says, let's break into groups and

pray. No, I don't mind so much

anymore. But a couple weeks ago, I was at

the church, a small church with 50 people and Leah that was

pastoring. And she's so like, everyone

break up with somebody you love and what?

Take communion. And I just did.

I didn't move. I was sitting alone.

And she comes over and says, Chris, I said break, move

somebody love. And I said, I am anyway, So the

introverts in here will understand.

But it's been fun to be with you.

I, I want to share a couple dreams just for fun and, and

because in the dreams we can learn things.

And Lou, Lou called me a couple weeks ago and said, Chris, it

was on a Tuesday, said on Wednesday, he's leaving for

Manchester, England. He said, will you see if the

Lord gives you any dream? And of course that's I just pray

and ask the Lord for Lou. And because of that covenantal

unity, I, I start getting things for him in in the dreams.

And that night I had an interesting dream.

Manchester United was in a soccer match with Arab Emirates,

Arab United Emirates in the soccer match that it was tied 11

to 11 in my dream. And the first team to get 12 and

sudden death would win. And at 1111, Manchester United

goes to the sideline and I'm I'm over there listening to them and

they're saying we should have paid the price for these certain

players. And the the overtime lasted.

It seemed like a couple hours in the dream.

It was like one of those extended listening to them.

We should have paid her the price for this.

We should have got this, this player named Johnson.

And in some of my dreams, Johnson becomes a a continued

theme with either the sons of John the beloved or sons of John

the Baptist has some meaning to them more than more than just

the literal name. So I share the dream with Lou.

I said, well, Lou, here's what I got last night.

And so he's, he's going to Manchester.

It was, well, he, he was on his way on Wednesday of that week,

couple weeks ago. So he goes and he, because we've

been together for 40 years, he's just come to the point of, you

know, Chris, I, I know you, I know I trust your dreams.

I'm going to just share the dream and we'll see what

happens. So he said, here's the dream

from my friend. It was 11 to 11.

It was sudden death. And we believe it has to do with

England. We believe Manchester has a, a

price to pay or, you know, right now, if you've hear a lot of

people are saying England is, doesn't have a chance, right?

They're just, they're, they've lost their culture to, to

invading cultures, culture war. And I'm not saying I'm not

pointing out to flesh and blood. I'm I'm saying spiritually there

there's, you know, you're hearing where there's teenage

girls getting raped in the middle of the day because

there's a culture that is controlled by these unseen

entities that that have no value for women, right.

And so it's like that's but it now they're in a different

country and it's turning the country upside down.

So anyways, they Lou shares this dream and the leaders are like,

OK, we really need to pray and pay the make sure we have paid

the price for our country. So it was a level of sobriety in

the dream that was on a Wednesday or Thursday.

And now on the next Wednesday, he's back and he he felt led to

go to Manchester, NH and on a Wednesday.

So that Wednesday there's actually a soccer match between

United, Manchester, Manchester United.

They're not playing United Arab Emirates, they're playing

Grimsby soccer club. It was a, a cup, a cup match,

meaning they had to win and to proceed and and Grimsby was

level 4. Not I don't, I don't pretend to

understand a whole lot about soccer.

I play a little bit for fun, but never on a team.

And Grimsby didn't have a chance.

They were level 4 United, Manchester United, top level,

top tier level. Well, on that Wednesday, they're

in this cup final. It's 11 to 11 and the first one

to 12 in sudden death wins. Grimsby ends up beating

Manchester United in this cup final a week after the dream.

And I'm asking the Lord. I said, Lord, you really were

clear with the dream, but not. So why did I miss the Why did I

miss the different teams? He said, this is what I felt,

Chris, you didn't miss the teams there.

What? There's a culture coming from a

certain, you know, spiritual realm, but there's a grim report

that is going to cost England their country if they side with

the 10 spies that have a bad report.

I feel like the feel like the and So what happens is when this

soccer match actually happened a week later on their own, this

group, this conference calls a 40 day fast to really fight for.

And I'm not telling you is the 40 day fast is the answer.

They would just said we need to pay the price, whatever it is

for our country. This and I want to I wanted to

share that because the spirit realm there has to nothing

happened. Very little happens in heaven.

I'm not going to say nothing, but God is always looking for

our agreement on the earth. There has to be an agreement

with him before there's a move on on the earth because he's

made us coin Co reigning with him right in Christ.

And so it's very sobering to me to to say I I want to make sure

that my the words out of my mouth says England doesn't have

a chance. You know the they're being taken

over. America does is to is too too

late for revival. It's trying to spit like loo

sorry. Anyway, let me do this.

Let me transition a little bit here.

Well, let me, let me encourage you because I last night, last

night and the night before, I want to put two dreams together,

2 partial dreams that what I've had and I believe, I believe for

you guys in the first night, part of the dream was there's

going to be a wealth transfer. But it wasn't talking about

money. It was talking about people, the

wealth, the treasure. We are the treasure.

There's we have, there's a clay pot with a treasure inside.

We are that treasure, right? There's a transfer of wealth

that's coming. And I saw it in my dream where

large churches would be emptied out and churches that had the

life of Christ would be filled with those treasured vessels.

There's a shifting that's taking place.

And then this last night I saw on the door, but it couldn't be

seen in the natural, but on the door there was the there were 12

Stones of the high priest governmental, the the 12.

And it was on the eastern door. And so when I got here this

morning, Dave brought me to the office and I'm like, yeah, this

is the eastern door because I could see the sun coming up.

It's the eastern door, the entrance that you use.

And the Lord started giving me revelation, the dream which will

happen sometimes where I started seeing Ezekiel 28.

And if you know the passage, it's where Satan is.

He's this covering cherub. He has a priestly role in

heaven. He's got it says he won't.

He walks among the 9 stones, which is very fascinating

because those every one of those 9 stones is on the breastplate

of the 12 Stones of the high priest, but he's missing 3.

And I felt this is what I was feeling from the Lord in the

dream. I was feeling like I, I knew

something that I didn't know before, but I knew that he

didn't have the three stones needed to steward the, the, the

priest, the priestly mediation of mankind.

He, he was missing those 3 stones.

And how did I know that? Because as I was thinking about

this, I started seeing Abraham looking up at the stars of the

sky. And I realized, oh, because

Ezekiel 28 says he is these, he, he would rise, his heart was to

rise above the stars. That's what he want.

That's what's part of his falling was he wanted to be

above the stars. He wanted to rule mankind, but

he was never given that authority to rule mankind.

Anyway. So I, I, I feel in the, I felt

in the dream. And what I saw was as I was

moving in the dream in the city, I could see some of the churches

having the 12 Stones, but some of the churches had 9 stones

that were artificial stones. And I knew, I knew in the dream

that those churches would be empty.

There'd be a season where the, the, the cost is too great for

them to continue to open. The, the, the Lord would take

away the lampstand in a sense, and there wouldn't be any reason

to go there. But part of that costly high

priestly anointing is that we would see Christ in every

person, every broken person. My my wife works with a broken

with a horse ministry with young people, teens and 20 year olds

that someday they'll come with a blue wristband and they'll

identify as a blue as a as a boy, they'll might wear a pink 1

though I being identified that day as a as a girl.

She loves she loves being in the midst of this generation of

broken men and women are identity issues they and she can

only talk to him about Jesus if they initiate part of the

structure of the of the work environment.

But she was telling me a couple weeks ago.

She said someone's this one person that she's been praying

for. She said she came to me and she

said if all Christians were like you, I'd become a Christian.

I'm like that's awesome. Keep loving those you know, they

don't have we're not pointing the finger.

We're saying they're broke and they need Jesus, you know,

right. We've got a generation and like

Dave is saying, we're not pointing the finger.

They're acting according to their nature, you know, but you

we all have received a new creation life in us.

We should be different. They haven't received that life.

They're going to be according to Adam, right the things in their

heart and so and I, I mentioned what.

Dan Moeller said, I, I, I like this, this comes to me every

once in a while. I don't, haven't listened to Dan

for a few years, but I really loved him.

I really love his heart. And he said something.

He said we should never as believers, we should never be

hurt by anybody. Because if somebody hurts us

with their words, he said, they're, they simply don't know

who they are and they don't know who we are.

So we should be hurt for them. So they should never hurt us.

But if they hurt us with if they attempt to hurt us with their

words, it should simply hurt us. They simply don't know who they

are. They're just coming against

this. Anyway.

I, I thought that that's so profound.

It's so simple and yet so profound the, the, the life of

Christ that goes after, after all the the lost, right.

Anyway, so I want to read a couple passages.

I think there's one in Malachi. The first chapter in Malachi.

It says, It says I have loved you, says the Lord.

Yet you say, In what way have you loved us?

Was not Esau Jacob's brother, says the Lord.

Yet Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.

I laid waste his mountains and his heritage for the jackals of

the wilderness. Even though Edom has said we

have been impoverished, but we will return and build the

desolate places. Thus says the Lord, They may

build, but I will throw it down. They may be called the territory

of wickedness, and the people against whom the Lord will have

indignation forever. When you read these Scriptures

and throughout the Old Testament, Edom is an increase

of Esau, just like Jacob, just like Israel's an increase of

Jacob, right? It's that when he's talking

about Esau, he's saying Esau. I hated because Esau despised

the seed of Christ, the birthright, his inheritance.

He he sold it for a bowl of soup.

He said I don't need the seed of Christ.

Basically what he's saying is I will have war forever with the

with Adam. There is no I hate Adam.

There's nothing good in Adam. When when when man sinned and

and and the life of Christ left, it says the whole world was full

of wickedness and violence. None there was none that were

seek that there was nothing. Everybody's heart was intense of

their heart were evil continually.

Genesis 6 and if if you weren't in a position to say I need the

seed, if you despise the seed, God is saying, I hate that.

I hate that everyone from the lineage of Esau, from the

lineage of Edom. He's not saying he's not saying

he's looking at a person hating the person.

He's hating the life that they're agreeing to because he

died to save them from that Adam life.

He actually buried all of us into Adam.

Isn't that amazing? All of Christ in Romans and

Corinthians, all of all of all of Adam died in Christ and was

buried. We talked about this yesterday a

little bit. The the crucifixion and the

burial of Adam is universal, but the resurrection is by faith

alone. All of Adam has has died, but

the resurrection is by faith. There's there's got to be a

faith in this seed. And I want to, I want to talk

about this because this is a hard saying, but there the only

thing Christ is looking for is an increase of of himself.

The only thing the Father's looking for is an increase of

the life of Christ in us. All of our good ideas are are

Esau. It's our own imagination.

It's our own good. He hates that.

He hates that those things, they, they have nothing to do

with him. They're of a different

everything that's not coming flowing from him is something

that he doesn't he doesn't long for, he doesn't want, he hates.

It is a hard saying, isn't it? It's like we're talking about

this everything when when God made Adam, it says he's a

picture. Adam is a picture of Christ.

Eve is a picture of the church, Ephesians and Romans.

When God made Adam and he wanted to, it was good that it was not

good that she should be alone. So he made Eve.

What did he do? He took life from Adam and he

made Eve with that life. Christ took his life.

He made a bride and then he gave that bride back to Christ to see

see what he's doing. The very life that he gives us,

he receives back from us. That's what he's looking for.

He's always looking for an increase of his own life.

And so we were talking kind of go quickly through a couple of

passages, but all of the Old Testament is a shadow of Christ

in some way or another, good or bad.

We talked about leprosy. We talked about Leviticus like

14 or 15. It says if I spit on somebody,

that person becomes unclean. That's kind of weird.

They they got to go through a cleansing ritual, go outside the

camp. Why?

Because everything that comes from the flesh is defiling.

It's just a picture of the body. It's a picture of Christ's body,

the church. And he's saying there's boundary

line. So every every law that was

given in Scripture is simply a boundary line of the life of and

nature of Christ. What are the wars?

The wars are simply the victories of Christ.

The the sacrifices are fragrance and, and the death of Christ.

They're all pointing in a weak way.

They're pointing to the substance which is Christ.

And so in the Old Testament, the first three times Israel is

used. It's very significant when Jacob

goes with his staff to go find a bride, he he goes into a hostile

territory. He leaves the House of God.

The Bethel goes into a hostile territory.

He claims a wife. He he laborers there for 20

years and guess what? When he leaves, guess what is

with him? There's a bride, there's flocks

and there's sons. It's a picture of Christ coming

and having an increase. See see this the scripture.

There's a couple really clear points in scripture that God,

his love comes down. His love is defined in John, but

he's giving all things I because I love you, I'm giving you all

understanding, all knowledge, because I love you, I'm giving

you all things. Well, that's what love is.

It's giving fully of himself and glory is the increase of that,

the nature, it's the increase of what he's looking for.

He's he's looking for an increase of what he's given.

He's not looking for more than Christ in us.

He's looking for Christ in us. And so when Jacob is wrestling

with God, he's wrestling with Laban, with man, but then he

wrestles with God and you know, he touches his hips and

dislocates it. But he's God says because you've

prevailed, I'm changing your name to Israel.

He's changing his name because that's he's he's he's shadowing

the body of Christ, the church. It's it's a one new man.

It's it's Exodus 422. Go tell Pharaoh that Israel is

my son, not my sons and my daughters, my son, my first

born. It's a picture of Christ.

It's a picture of increase. So in Scripture, when a Jacob is

coming out with this increase, it's Speaking of the church.

The church is the resurrected body of Christ.

If he now you got to understand this because otherwise it sounds

weird. It's like, what are you saying?

We're God? No, not at all.

The church. See, we do.

If you know, most of the time, if I would say who is the

church, we would define it. You can't define it because he

defines it. He defines it by his life.

So the measure of Christ's life in this room is the measure of

the church in this room, right? We can say we're the body of

Christ, but we're only the body of Christ as the life of the Son

lives through us. There's part of us that is not

the life of Christ. And that's the that's the part

of us that we continually surrender to.

It's the mind that hasn't been renewed.

It's the thoughts that aren't his thoughts.

It's not the body of Christ. He when he resurrected from the

dead, isn't it interesting? Nobody that knew him now

recognized him. The road to Emmaus, They didn't

recognize him. Mary thought, this is the

gardener. Peter and James didn't recognize

him until they said, cast it over and catch the 153, whatever

the fish or whatever. Nobody recognized him because he

came in a different form, Same life, different form.

He says to Mary, Don't cling to me.

I don't want to be known like I was known for the last three

years. I want to be known differently.

And so he's, he's appearing and disappearing and he's coming and

going. He doesn't want anyone clinging

to him because he wants people to find him in the body.

He's the head now. Guess what?

We're the body of Christ. He wanted people to see.

Look, the the life is the same, but the form is different.

It's an increase. What is the greater works?

It's not a greater life, it's just a greater number.

It's a greater increase of the very life of Christ.

So when Christ heals through us, he's the one healing.

It's not my power to heal. I'm just the like we always say,

unless we were misunderstood, the vine, the branch doesn't

become the vine. We don't become God.

The vine simply gets a clean vessel, a conduit to go through

his life, to go through, to flow through.

Isn't it amazing? In Isaiah 60, it says that

there's a time coming when all the nations will come and bow

down at our feet. That is, that's crazy.

What does that mean? That means God is purified, A

remnant that no longer that it's just they just see Christ.

They don't even see us. It's like they don't see us.

They see him and they come down to worship him in US and God's

not, not, not only not offended. This is where his heart

rejoices. Finally, the my body is my body

and he he has no problem casting Thrones down because it's his

life, right, You know what I'm saying?

I mean, giving us Thrones and we casting them back, however, over

you know, it's kind of silly to think I'm wearing anybody going

to be comfortable wearing a crown?

I'm it's not, it's not a physical crown.

I'm like, I'm not wearing this for all of eternity.

This is stupid anyway it it's just AI think it's just a

recognition in the spirit realm that this person laid his life

down. This person yielded to the very

life of Christ. There was an increase.

I love the story and we've told it several times this weekend.

But when Joseph before Joseph has a prophetic word that his

people are going to go into Egypt into exile and he says to

them, just remember this, don't leave my bones in Egypt.

Interesting. Don't make sure they they come

out of Egypt. So what happens 400 years later,

Moses is called to deliver the Israelites from Egypt and in the

front of in the front of the procession, they've got the

they're carrying the bones of of Joseph.

What's the picture? The picture is Joseph, a type of

Christ now has an increase of Christ, right?

It's that's a picture. It's a shadow, not perfect at

all. It's just a shadow, but

everything in Scripture is a shadow.

Jesus is the door. Jesus is the cloud that led him

out of the promised land. Jesus is the promised land.

Jesus is the manna from heaven. He's the bread that he.

You know, it's like you can't you go to Joseph And isn't it

interesting when I, when the Lord started revealing the, the

communion revival, I started seeing communion all over us.

I was like, wow, the Baker, the Baker dies, but the, the wine,

the one that serves wine to the king lives forever.

I'm like, come on, That's an awesome, that's an awesome

picture. The, the blood anyway, And

Gideon, what's Gideon doing? He's baking bread in a wine

press. And then the big, big barley

loaf rolls down and and demolishes the Midianite.

Was it Midianites and anyway, just the the the whole of

scripture, if we understand the whole of scripture is pointing

for his original design, which was to have a a priestly bride,

right. We were talking to praying for

Roger and his wife earlier. There's a word in the in

Genesis. It says tendon keep the garden

and then take dominion on the earth.

Tendon keep is only used one other time together in numbers.

I think it's chapter 3 and it's in regard to the priesthood.

Jesus. God's original intention with

man was to have a priest king in the garden and to rule.

It was a temple. It was facing east.

Eden was facing east. It was the IT was had cherubims

in there. What's the temple facing east,

the cherubim in the holy of holies.

It was just this is the Garden of Eden.

It's a it's a temple on the earth and you are the

gatekeepers. That word in tendon keep the

word keep means to guard. I don't know if this is exactly,

I think it's true, but you know, Eve was deceived, but Adam was

told to guard, guard the garden. Why did he let the snake talk to

his his wife? You know, there's, there's I

think, I think the judgement came on him because he was to

guard and keep he was to make sure there was nothing happening

in that garden that wasn't supposed to happen.

And we're and we're, we're priests and kings.

And this is this is what we do. We guard, we, we guard our

hearts. You know, I had a dream a couple

years ago. In the dream it was I was

reading about Solomon who was having a dream in, in kings.

And it says, you know, in the dream the Lord asked him for

any, asked me for anything. And in the dream Solomon

responds and says, I want wisdom.

But what the Lord highlighted to me in the dream was not wisdom,

but govern. He said, I want wisdom to

govern. I'm like, OK, you're he asked

for something more than wisdom. He wanted to be at that ecclesia

that that priest, that king priest, right.

He he's like there was something that moved God's heart said you

have asked a good thing. You've asked something that I

wanted Adam and Eve to walk in and you want to restore that

governing wisdom. The problem with Solomon is he

could govern the people, but never governed his own heart,

right? He was a failure.

But in in in that sense. But isn't it, isn't it powerful

that God, God showed him something in a dream?

And sometimes we just dismiss dreams.

The Midianites with Gideon, they get a dream about this.

Barley. Was it?

Yeah. Barley loaf rolling down and and

destroying them. They said this is none other

than the sword of Gideon. And they were afraid.

Gideon hears it outside their tent.

And that was all he needed to hear.

To gird his loins up and go to battle was like, what a culture.

What a culture where Joseph's brothers hear a dream and want

to kill him. They could have said, that's

just a pizza, a barley dream pizza dream.

But they're like, no, we're going to kill you because we

believe in dreams. The Midianites said, gosh,

Gideon's going to destroy us. I had a dream.

They weren't even believers. But but culturally, we we just

got to be careful not to dismiss the and I'm not saying just

dreams. There's still small voice the,

the, the obviously the written word, like when God lays a hold

of that written word and you just know that, you know, this

is, this is the message for right now.

It just burns in your heart, right.

And I think, I think covenantally, I can say this

beyond a shadow of a doubt. If I wouldn't have covenanted

with Lou, I would have missed 40 years of dreaming.

I, I wouldn't have taken him seriously like this.

It was a cool dream. Maybe I should have bet some

money on that. I just saw this fight and

Muhammad Ali. Those are one of the first

dreams I had. Muhammad Ali loses at the end.

And I told my people in my college, I said, hey, I saw the

fight in my dream last night. I should have bet on it, right?

No, God was just saying, Chris, I want you to know you can hear

my voice. You can hear my voice and I'll

speak to you if you're willing to hear and not just say it's

just a pizza dream or whatever. And, and our, our dreams do get

cleaned up. Sometimes it's just a piece of a

dream that's like right from heaven.

And then some of it's mixture that you know what, what,

whatever reason that we're mixture in our hearts.

And as we, as we are saying, yes, yes to more surrender, we

hear clearly, just like we hear the understand the word too.

So the the surrender to this increase of Christ and.

It's all it's all about Jesus, right?

Everything is about Jesus living his life through US, Christ in

us, the hope of glory. We have nothing apart from his

life. But if we have his life, we have

everything. There needs to be a confidence

in US. You know, I don't have the word.

I don't necessarily know what to do, but he's in me and he can

speak freely through me if we allow him to right?

He can live through us. So there, you know, one of the I

know I need to end, but in 1997 I was just leaving this my wife

and I were just leaving the Korean church that we were

pastoring. And the Lord said, he said,

Chris, you have a a life threatening disease in my dream

and I'm like, gosh, am I going to die of cancer?

What's going on? And in the dream, the Lord goes,

it's comparison and it's going to kill you.

And Paul said, don't compare yourselves among yourselves.

You're not wise. We either land on one side or

the other. I'll tell you where I landed.

I always said that guy's a better teacher.

That guy's a better prophet. That guy's a better everything.

What am I doing? What am I doing?

The Koreans talk about intercession, man.

We had intercession meeting. I didn't even know if I was

saved anymore. And you know, it's just like,

these guys are awesome. And then the next dream I have,

I don't know, maybe a month later, because I was struggling

with this, like, OK, I, I compare myself to others and

I'm, I'm not measuring up. Lord.

And the next dream there was all those people that I had just

labeled that were, why would I do this?

Because they're so good at it. Just let them do it.

They, they were in a dream with me.

We're in the mountains of Colorado in this dream.

And Billy Graham was going to come and be the guest, the guest

at the mountain retreat. Well, he gets there and we're

just about to sit down for dinner and he comes up to me and

he says, Chris, I want to sit by you tonight.

And I said, no, I'm an introvert.

I don't talk that much. Go, go sit by so.

And so he can talk all night, right?

You know, and I know, you know, I want to sit by you.

I said, OK. I said be boring, but OK.

And then he said at night, he said, I want to sleep in your

cabin. I'm like, no, again, really.

You don't want to sleep in my cabin anyway.

Just. And, and I realized, oh, I'm

talking to the Lord. In my dream, Billy Graham was a

representation of the Lord. That's all it was.

It was just like the Lord was saying, no, Chris, I made you

the way you are. I love your personality.

He loves it would be boring if we were all the same, if even

two of us were the same, right? We're all so very different.

It's like we're we get to have a personality while we express the

life of Christ. That's a beautiful thing.

We don't have to lose our sense of humor.

I mean, I think one of my colleagues is to make Lou laugh

once a month, right? And I, I send them, you know,

these, these memes that are right on the edge of not not

being good to send. You know, he's like Chris.

You have, he goes, Chris, you have a serious conscience.

But I can't stop laughing. So I think for Lou and for

heaven, that's my ministry. OK, He's trying hard, but he's

anyway just saying, let me just let me just say this.

I'll just share something and then I'll be done in in Matthew

15. You, you guys know the story

when the woman comes to Jesus, that's a gentile and he says to

her, he ignores her. I should read it, but Matthew

15/20/21 in there, he ignores her, didn't say anything to her.

So he's ignoring this woman And you're, I remember reading this

thinking she's just not, he's not a Jesus having a bad day.

He's just ignoring some woman that's trying to get healed, her

daughter healed or whatever. And then the next verse she, she

presses in and says, you know, Jesus and the disciples are

saying somebody send her away. Somebody get rid of this lady.

And she's pressing in and, and Jesus says even the dogs will

get, you know, the dogs will get the crumbs or something like

that. Right now he ignores her.

Now he calls her a dog and I'm thinking what?

She's having a terrible day and I'm just joking.

But it goes a little further. And then she lays hold of of him

and she is healed and he says something great.

I've not seen a great faith like this or some however that goes.

You know what, I was meditating on this.

I felt like the Lord said to me, he says, Chris, I knew from the

first start of this she had great faith and she was going to

persevere and I was going to ignore her.

And I was going to say this, you know, the, the bread is for the

dogs, the Gentiles. And she was going to press in

and I was going to show the disciples what real faith was.

That's when I felt like he said, this is what real faith looks

like. It doesn't matter what it looks

like. It doesn't matter if you're

being, you feel like you're being ignored, but you're

pressing and you're saying, no, I'm going to lay hold of this

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