Sermon
Like Father, Like Son
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If you have your Bible with you this morning, you can open it up to John chapter 8.
John 8 chapter mention
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For those of you who are visiting, we've been working our way through the Gospel of John
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kind of at a slow pace, just trying to milk it for all it's worth and learn as much as we can
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about Jesus and what he asks of us as his followers. So John chapter 8, we are in this morning,
John 8 chapter mention
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and we're at about verse 43. And this morning, I didn't plan it this way, but we come to a
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difficult passage. Difficult for a couple of reasons. First of all, Jesus is about to say
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something that many in the audience find offensive. And even today, people still find these words
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offensive and are ashamed of them. Second, this is a difficult passage to know just what Jesus means
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and how does this apply to us. But we're going to try to look at it anyway. We don't
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just want to skip over it. We know that everything that Jesus says is important and for a reason.
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So John chapter 8, verse 43. And just before we read it, let me just remind us of what's going on.
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Jesus is still at the temple courts. He's having a heated discussion with a crowd of people there.
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He's told them that they must believe that he is the one sent from God and that if they do not,
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they will die in their sin. They will stand guilty before God. He has told them the hard truth that
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they are slaves to sin who need to be set free and liberated. He said that it's by his word,
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by the truth that he speaks, that they can be set free. And people initially seem to believe him
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and were excited about him. But we saw that very quickly, this was maybe a superficial belief.
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And as this conversation goes on, it's coming out that many really do not believe in Jesus,
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at least not the hard parts of what he's saying, the part about being slaves to sin
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and things like that. So they begin to argue with Jesus about this.
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We are children of Abraham, they said. And Jesus responded,
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you are in the physical sense, but in the most important sense, you are not.
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So they tried another angle. We are children of God. He is our father. And Jesus challenged that too.
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Actually, no, you are not. If you were God's children, you would love me.
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Because I've been sent here from him to you.
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No, there's a major problem here. As Jesus said a moment ago in verse 37, he said,
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my word makes no progress in you. It's like it's not getting through.
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And he says a very similar thing here and now again in verse 43.
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Why is my language not clear to you? He says.
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A more literal translation. Why do you not understand what I'm saying?
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Now, if it were you or I that were speaking these words,
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I at least imagine that if I was to say them, it would be because I'm frustrated
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that the person I'm talking to just doesn't seem to be getting it.
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Why do you not understand what I'm saying?
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I'm not sure that Jesus necessarily feels the same as I would.
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We really don't know what he's feeling as he asks this question.
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But interestingly enough, he answers his own question.
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Why do you not understand what I am saying?
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It is because you cannot hear my word.
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It is because you cannot hear my word, he says.
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And probably all of us are wondering, well, what do you mean, Jesus,
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that we cannot hear your word? What do you mean?
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That's a strange thing to say.
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Why can't they hear your word?
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Well, everybody has some ideas about this.
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Some people, pretty much everybody agrees that it's not because they're physically deaf.
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But beyond that, there's a number of different ideas about what Jesus means here.
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Some people believe that they are unable to hear Jesus' words
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because they are spiritually deaf.
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Like in their souls.
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They just, they can't hear it.
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Some of those people would say that they maybe lack some kind of a spiritual organ
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that's needed in order to really hear and understand what Jesus is saying.
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Others would say it's because they're spiritually dead.
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They don't have spiritual life yet.
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And so they can't understand what Jesus is saying.
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A few people will point to the earlier chapters of John and say it's because they need to be born again
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by the Spirit first in order to be able to really hear and understand Jesus' words.
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And some others would say that they simply choose not to hear Jesus' words.
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Well, which is it?
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What's really going on here with these people?
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Why can't they hear your word, Jesus?
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I wish I could say with certainty what Jesus means here.
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You see, at some point we also have to ask the question of whether they are responsible
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for what they are hearing or not hearing from Jesus.
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Do these people know that they cannot hear his word?
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Do they think they can hear him and understand him?
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I've got lots of questions for Jesus here.
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But if I had to venture a guess, perhaps it means something like this.
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Because you are unable to hear my word, maybe,
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simply means you are unable to accept my word.
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To receive the word that you are hearing from me.
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And we sometimes use the word hear or the word listen like that.
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I know I do with my own kids.
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I might tell them to do something.
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And then see that they didn't do it.
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And I might say, why didn't you listen to me?
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Well, it's not that they didn't listen to me.
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They heard what I said.
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It's that they didn't do what I said.
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And so maybe that's what Jesus means here.
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You are unable to accept the word that you are hearing from me.
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And that inability to accept Jesus' word, I think,
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is maybe rooted not so much in ignorance,
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but in an unwillingness.
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Unwillingness.
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Not because they don't recognize that Jesus speaks the truth,
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but because they don't like the implications
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of the truth that Jesus speaks.
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That's my best guess here.
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Jesus' words are not getting through
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because for their part, they cannot accept his word.
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And that this cannot accept comes from a deep down,
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I will not accept what you are saying.
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I kept thinking back to what Jesus said earlier
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here in this Gospel of John.
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John 3, verse 19 and 20.
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This is the verdict.
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Light has come into the world.
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That's Jesus.
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That's the word that he speaks.
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But people love darkness instead of light.
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Why?
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Because their deeds were evil.
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Everyone who does evil hates the light
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and will not come into the light
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for fear that their deeds will be exposed.
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I think that's maybe a good explanation of what's happening here
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as Jesus has this conversation with the crowd.
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Jesus is the light and he's speaking words that expose the truth.
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Truth like,
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you're a slave to sin and you need to be set free
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and I have come to set you free.
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But they are not wanting to hear this.
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They don't want to accept that reality.
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We are children of Abraham
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and therefore we are slaves of nobody.
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We have God for our Father
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and therefore we don't need you, Jesus.
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Jesus already said back in verse 37
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and this was something we've heard a lot of times in John
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that the people, some of them at least,
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are looking for a way to kill him.
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And so if that's true,
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then it makes sense
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that at this point
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they are no longer able or willing
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to hear what Jesus has to say to them.
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I mean, think of the state of their minds
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and their hearts right now.
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If they are plotting to kill him,
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it means that they have hardened their hearts towards Jesus.
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They've made up their minds about him.
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They're done listening to Jesus.
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Maybe you've had an argument with someone
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and you know that there comes that point
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in the conversation,
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the back and forth,
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where you're not listening to them
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and they're not listening to you.
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Perhaps something like that is happening here.
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Let's go on.
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Jesus says,
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Why do you not understand what I am saying?
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It is because you cannot hear my word.
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You are of your father,
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the devil,
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and you want to do the desires of your father.
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This is the part that is offensive.
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To them,
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to us,
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I didn't intentionally choose this passage
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for Mother's Day.
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This is what Jesus said that day.
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You are of your father,
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the devil,
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and you want to do
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the desires
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of your father.
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So why are they unable to accept,
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to hear Jesus anymore?
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Jesus says it's because they are children
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of the devil.
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And we're going to talk about what that means
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in a moment,
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but first,
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before we get to that,
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notice the second part of what Jesus
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says here.
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He says,
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You want to carry out your father's desires,
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or you want to do the desires
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of your father.
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Notice that it's not just the devil
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who has desires,
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but Jesus says that they themselves,
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the people there,
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they want to do the things
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that the devil desires,
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which in this situation here
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is to kill Jesus.
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Verse 44,
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he goes on,
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You are of your father,
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the devil,
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and you want to do the desires
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of your father?
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He was a murderer
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from the beginning,
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says Jesus.
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What was the devil's desire?
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To kill.
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He went after Adam and Eve
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to kill them.
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He deliberately enticed them
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to disobey God
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because he knew
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that it would result in their death.
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He was a murderer
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from the beginning,
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says Jesus,
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with murderous desires.
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And Jesus is saying
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to some of the people
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here in the crowd,
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you have the same desires
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that he does,
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that he had
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since the beginning of the world.
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Remember back to what John said earlier.
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The people love the darkness
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and hate the light.
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Why?
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Because their deeds were evil.
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So Jesus is shining the spotlight
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on the murderous intents
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of their hearts
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in this moment
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on what they are trying to do,
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which at this moment
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is very evil.
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It's to kill him.
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To take him out.
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And so I think this is why
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they are unable to hear.
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They are unable to accept
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what Jesus is saying.
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They're unable to come
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into the light
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and love the light
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because to accept
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what Jesus is saying
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is to admit
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that he's right.
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that we really are slaves
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who need to be set free.
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That we really are sinners
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who are on the hook with God.
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That we really need you, Jesus.
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And for some of them
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to admit that yes,
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we actually have been plotting
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to kill
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even though we know it's wrong.
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Let's come back
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to this statement.
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You belong to your father.
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You are of your father,
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the devil.
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My translation in my Bible says
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you belong to your father,
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the devil.
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What does that mean?
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You are of your father,
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the devil.
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What does it mean
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to be a child of the devil?
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Well, first of all,
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I don't think it means
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the same thing
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as to be a child of God.
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Those who are children of God,
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we've heard earlier
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from Jesus himself.
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To become a child of God,
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you need to be born again
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by the Spirit
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into his family.
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You become a child of God
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through a spiritual birth.
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It's not the same
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with the devil
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and being a child of his.
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It doesn't mean
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that you have somehow
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been born of the devil
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in a spiritual sense.
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It also doesn't mean
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that they have verbally
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pledged allegiance
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to the devil
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in some kind of ceremony
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or ritual.
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In fact,
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probably all of these people
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don't think
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that they are children
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of the devil.
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Thirdly,
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I don't think
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it means that they
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belong to the devil.
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I don't think
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Jesus is saying
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that the devil
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owns them
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or has ownership
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over them.
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And I don't think
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Jesus is saying
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that the devil
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controls them
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or makes them
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desire
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or makes them do
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what they are
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desiring and doing.
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So what does
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Jesus mean here?
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Well,
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the only sense
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in which they seem
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to be children
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of the devil
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that Jesus
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brings up
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again and again here,
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the sense in which
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the devil is their father
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is based on the fact
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that they desire
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and do
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the same things
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that he does.
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He is the father
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of those desires
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to murder.
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He is the father
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of those deeds
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to lie,
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to deceive
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because he was
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the first one
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to do them.
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And
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if I'm reading
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this right,
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what makes a person
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a child of the devil
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is that they
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take after their father.
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They take after
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the devil
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in their
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desires
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and in their deeds.
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The things they desire,
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the things that they do.
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Like father,
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like son.
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Let's see this
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in what Jesus says here.
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Back in verse 38,
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Jesus said this to them,
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I speak the things
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which I have seen
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with my father.
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Therefore,
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you also do
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the things
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which you heard
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from your father.
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In other words,
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Jesus' actions
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and his words
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line up
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with what he has
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heard and seen
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from God,
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his father.
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But he says
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that their actions
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and words
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line up with
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what they have
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heard and seen
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from their father,
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the devil.
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Verse 39,
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Abraham is our father,
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they answered.
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Jesus said to them,
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if you were
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Abraham's children,
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you would do
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what Abraham did.
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You would do
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the works
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that Abraham did.
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He goes on there
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to say,
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no,
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you're looking
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for a way
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to kill me.
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You are doing
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the works
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of your own father,
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the devil.
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In other words,
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it's their deeds,
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it's their works,
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it's their actions
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by which they are
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either children
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of Abraham
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or children
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of a different
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father.
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And their deeds,
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he says,
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don't match up
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with Abraham.
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So you are not
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truly his children,
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rather,
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you're trying
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to kill me.
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Your deeds,
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your actions,
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your behavior
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matches up
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to a different
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father,
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the devil.
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Again,
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in verse 44,
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he says,
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you are of
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your father,
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the devil,
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and you want
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to carry out
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your father's
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desires.
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We read this
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already,
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but it's not
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only their deeds
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by which they are
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children of the devil,
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but it's their
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desires.
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They have the
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same desires
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as he does,
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and so are
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children,
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of him.
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Like father,
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like son.
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He wants to kill.
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He is a murderer.
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He has the desire
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to harm people.
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You have that desire
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in your heart
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right now,
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says Jesus.
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Verse 44,
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he talks about
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how the devil
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is a liar.
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He was a murderer
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from the beginning,
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not holding
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to the truth.
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goes on to talk
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about how the devil
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lies all the time
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and how he is
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the father of lies,
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but his basic
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point coming down
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to verse 45
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is,
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you are like him,
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like father,
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like son,
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just as the devil
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did not hold
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to the truth
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and stand firm
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in it,
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in the same way,
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here I am
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speaking the truth
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to you,
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confronting you
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with the truth
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and yet because
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I tell the truth,
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you do not believe me,
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says Jesus
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in verse 45.
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You know it's the truth
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and because you know
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it's the truth,
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you do not want
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to hear it.
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So to be a child
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of the devil,
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the way that Jesus
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describes it
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is to have the same
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desires
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and deeds
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as the devil.
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It doesn't mean
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that you worship Satan.
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In fact,
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these religious leaders
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in the crowd,
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I mean,
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they're here at the
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temple courts
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in the temple
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of the Lord
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and they do many
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religious things.
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Being a child
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of the devil
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is something
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that probably
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everybody would deny
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and that's why
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these words of Jesus
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are so offensive
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to people
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and yet it's
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almost impossible
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to escape
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just how black
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and white a picture
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Jesus paints
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for us
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with these words.
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In his words,
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there are ultimately
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only two families
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that you can belong to.
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You can belong
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to God
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and have him
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for your father
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or you can belong
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to the devil
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and have him
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for your father.
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You can take up
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the desires
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and the deeds
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of one
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or the other.
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You can take up
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the family business
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of one
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or the other.
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Let's bring in
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one more key passage
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that sheds some light
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on this
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because we still
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might wonder,
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is there really
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nothing in between?
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Am I a child
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of the devil
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by default
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until I'm saved?
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Isn't there
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some kind of
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neutral
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in the middle
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before I
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make my choice?
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Let's look at
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1 John
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chapter 3
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verse 8.
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John was listening
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that day.
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This is what he wrote
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in his letter.
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He said,
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the one who does
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what is sinful
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is of the devil.
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Same language.
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Because the devil
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has been sinning
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from the beginning.
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Down in verse 10
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he says,
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this is how we know
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who the children
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of God are
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and who the children
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of the devil are.
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Anyone who does not
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do what is right
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is not God's child.
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Nor is anyone
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who does not love
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their brother
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and sister.
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So John confirms
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for us in his letter
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that yes,
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we are hearing
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Jesus correctly.
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It is black and white.
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you are either
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a child of God
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or a child
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of the devil.
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And what marks
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the difference
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between the two
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is the overall
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way of life
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that a person
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has.
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As we see
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in these words
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of John,
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doing what is
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sinful
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marks the life
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of someone
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who is of the devil.
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not doing
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what is right
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marks
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the life
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of someone
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who is
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a child
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of the devil.
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But doing
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what is right
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marks the life
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of those
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who are
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of God.
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Loving
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your brother
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and your sister
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marks the life
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of a child
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of God.
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Now this,
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of course,
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doesn't mean
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that a true
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child of God
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never blows it,
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never sins
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or makes mistakes.
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Abraham did,
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King David did,
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Peter did,
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and many more.
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But it means
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that the overall
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way of life
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of a child
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of God
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is that they
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generally
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do what is right
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and not what
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is sinful.
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They love
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their brother
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and their sister
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and not just
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live to please
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themselves
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at all costs.
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So if the
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mark of
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a child
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of the devil
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is that they
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generally do
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what is sinful
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like the devil
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does,
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then yes,
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by default,
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we all start
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out as children
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of the devil.
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As Paul said
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in Romans
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chapter 3,
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verse 23,
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familiar verse,
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for all have
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sinned
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and fall short
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of the glory
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of God.
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That's where
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we all start.
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This is why
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we need Jesus
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to come,
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to help us,
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to save us.
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because from
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the start,
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we are all
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children of
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the devil.
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But listen,
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this is the
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hard truth
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that Jesus
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speaks to them
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that day,
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but there is
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also good news
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that Jesus
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brings.
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And we've been
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hearing this all
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throughout the
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gospel of John.
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He has come
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to give life.
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He has come
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to speak to us
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the truth
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by which,
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believing it,
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we can become
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children of God
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and have a
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change of family.
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He has come
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to set free
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those who are
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slaves to sin.
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Listen to these
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words from the
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beginning of
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John's gospel
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again.
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The true light
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that gives light
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to everyone
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was coming
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into the world.
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That's Jesus.
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He was in the
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world.
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And though the
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world was made
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through him,
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the world did
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not recognize
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him.
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He came to
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that which was
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his own,
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but his own
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did not receive
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him.
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Yet,
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to all who
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did receive
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him,
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here it is,
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to those who
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believed in
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his name,
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he gave the
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right to
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become children
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of God.
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There is a
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way to have a
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change of
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family,
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to get a
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new father,
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a different
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father,
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a better
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father,
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to become
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a child of
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God.
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And it's
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through believing
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in the name
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of Jesus.
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It's believing
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in him,
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that he is
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who he says
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he is,
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and believing
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the things
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that he said
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and has come
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to speak,
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the truth he
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comes to
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speak.
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the crowd
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here in
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the temple
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courts is
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doing the
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opposite.
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They are
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not listening
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to Jesus.
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They are
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not believing
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in him.
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They are
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not receiving
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him.
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Back to
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John chapter
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8,
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verse 45.
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Yet,
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because I
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tell you
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the truth,
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you do not
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believe me,
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says Jesus.
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Can any
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one of you
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prove me
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guilty of
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sin?
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If I am
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telling the
-
truth,
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why don't
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you believe
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me?
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Quite the
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statement.
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And I
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think that
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we really
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need to
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ponder
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these words.
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Jesus is
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appealing to
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their
-
consciences.
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My actions,
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he says,
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and my
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conduct
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match with
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what you
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know is
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good and
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right.
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does
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anybody
-
want to
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come up
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and convict
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me of
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sin?
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Have I
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done
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anything
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wrong to
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anyone?
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Have I
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said
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anything
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wrong to
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anyone?
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If I
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lack
-
integrity,
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tell me
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specifically
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what I
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have done
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or what
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I have
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said.
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They've
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already
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made a
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few
-
accusations
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throughout,
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but Jesus
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has answered
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all of
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those so
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well to
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show that
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he is not
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guilty of
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anything.
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And so
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if I've
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been
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speaking and
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doing what
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is good
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and right
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and you
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know that,
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then you
-
know that I
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am from
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God.
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You know
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that I
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speak the
-
truth.
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So why
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won't you
-
believe me?
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believe me?
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What a
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question.
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Jesus is
-
appealing to
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their
-
consciences.
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Why don't
-
you believe
-
me?
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What's
-
keeping you
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from
-
accepting
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what you
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know to
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be true
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about
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Jesus?
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Jesus?
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I think we
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all need to
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think about
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these words
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and answer
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for ourselves.
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But Jesus
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goes on.
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He actually
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answers this
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question too.
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He says,
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why don't
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you believe
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me?
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And then
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down in
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verse 47,
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whoever
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belongs to
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God
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hears
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what God
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says.
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The reason
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why you
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do not
-
hear
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my words
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is that
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you are
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not
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of God.
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This is
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quite the
-
statement.
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And I
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think that
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we should
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think about
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the word
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hear that
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Jesus uses
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here in
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the same
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senses
-
above.
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The reason
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why you
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do not
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accept
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the word
-
of God
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is that
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you are
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not
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of
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God.
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Now
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there's a
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whole
-
discussion
-
and debate
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around
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this.
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I'm not
-
going to
-
get into
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that this
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morning.
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There's a
-
temptation to
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want to
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change these
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words around.
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What do you
-
mean the
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reason why we
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do not
-
hear is
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because we
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are not
-
of God?
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Well,
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which comes
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first?
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Belonging to
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God or
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hearing and
-
believing?
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Save that
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for another
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day.
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either way,
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we are at
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the mercy
-
of God
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because we
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have all
-
sinned.
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We need
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a change
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in family.
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We need
-
to become
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children of
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God is
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what Jesus
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is saying
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to them
-
there that
-
day.
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As we've
-
been going
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through this
-
series,
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we've seen
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some of
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the marks
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of being
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a true
-
disciple
-
or a
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true child
-
of Abraham,
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a true
-
child of
-
God.
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We've
-
heard some
-
really good
-
things from
-
Jesus.
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To be a
-
true follower
-
of his,
-
we must
-
remain in
-
his word.
-
We must
-
continue to
-
hold to
-
his teaching
-
and not
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move on
-
from it.
-
To be a
-
true child
-
of Abraham,
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we must
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do the
-
things that
-
Abraham
-
did.
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Believe and
-
accept and
-
obey the
-
word of
-
God when
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it comes
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to us
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like Abraham
-
did.
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To be a
-
true child
-
of God,
-
we heard
-
last week,
-
we should
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love and
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love his
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son,
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the one
-
that he
-
has sent.
-
And this
-
morning,
-
we saw the
-
marks of
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having a
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different
-
father.
-
A child
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of the
-
devil
-
desires and
-
does what
-
the devil
-
does,
-
like father,
-
like son.
-
A child
-
of the
-
devil refuses
-
to believe
-
Jesus because
-
he speaks
-
the truth.
-
A child
-
of the
-
devil will
-
not hear
-
or accept
-
or listen
-
to what
-
God says
-
just like
-
the devil
-
won't.
-
But a
-
true child
-
of God
-
will hear
-
and will
-
accept and
-
will listen
-
to what
-
God says.
-
Jesus has
-
been shining
-
the light of
-
truth on
-
these people.
-
He's been
-
exposing their
-
desires and
-
their deeds,
-
giving them
-
the hard
-
truth they
-
need to
-
come face
-
to face
-
with,
-
whose
-
family
-
they're
-
in.
-
And next
-
week we'll
-
see how
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they respond
-
and as
-
you can
-
imagine it
-
wasn't
-
good.
-
They were
-
very angry.
-
But for
-
this morning
-
what about
-
you?
-
Whose
-
family are
-
you in?
-
Jesus only
-
gives us
-
two
-
possibilities.
-
Do you
-
love Jesus?
-
Do you
-
believe in
-
him?
-
The words
-
that he has
-
spoken,
-
do you
-
accept them?
-
do you
-
endeavor to
-
obey them
-
as all
-
true
-
children of
-
God do?
-
Or do
-
you love
-
certain other
-
things more?
-
Do you
-
have it in
-
your heart
-
to continue
-
doing some
-
of those
-
things that
-
you know
-
are wrong?
-
Do
-
Jesus'
-
words make
-
you angry?
-
Do they
-
provoke you
-
because of
-
things that
-
you might
-
have to
-
surrender or
-
give up if
-
you were to
-
believe in
-
him?
-
Is it
-
possible that
-
you have
-
been quite
-
religious just
-
like these
-
people and
-
yet your
-
heart is far
-
from God?
-
Far from
-
loving Jesus?
-
If it is, I
-
want to encourage
-
you with Jesus'
-
own words to
-
repent and
-
believe, to
-
humble yourself
-
before him,
-
to admit,
-
yes, I have
-
blown it, I am
-
a sinner.
-
Will you
-
forgive me?
-
God is in
-
the business
-
of forgiving
-
sins.
-
That's why he
-
sent Jesus.
-
He is
-
compassionate, he
-
is gracious,
-
and he will
-
forgive you if
-
you ask him.
-
And it will
-
cost to become
-
a follower of
-
Jesus.
-
There's no
-
denying that.
-
Jesus himself
-
said, for whoever
-
wants to save
-
their life will
-
lose it.
-
But whoever
-
loses their
-
life for me
-
will save it.
-
It will cost.
-
It costs
-
everything.
-
He said, what
-
good is it for
-
someone to gain
-
the whole world
-
yet forfeit
-
their soul?
-
The cost is
-
well worth it
-
for what we
-
receive from
-
Jesus.
-
Eternal life.
-
That's what's
-
at stake here.
-
Life and
-
death.
-
Many of you
-
here this
-
morning are
-
children of
-
God and
-
you love
-
Jesus.
-
I want to
-
encourage you
-
to keep
-
listening to
-
Jesus, to
-
stay in
-
his word, to
-
continue to
-
hold tightly
-
to his
-
teaching, and
-
as Peter said,
-
to make every
-
effort to
-
obey his
-
commands, to
-
do what's
-
right, to
-
love your
-
brother and
-
your sister,
-
as all true
-
children of
-
God should
-
and do.
-
And as a
-
last thought,
-
God, these
-
words are
-
offensive.
-
We're not
-
going to
-
pretend that
-
they're not.
-
And so I
-
want to
-
encourage you
-
to take
-
care about
-
talking about
-
being children
-
of the devil
-
to people in
-
our world, in
-
our community,
-
people who
-
don't know
-
Christ.
-
If you take
-
these words
-
upon your
-
lips, I
-
want to
-
encourage you
-
to do it
-
with the
-
utmost
-
humility and
-
gentleness,
-
and never
-
with the
-
intent to
-
insult or
-
deride or
-
to give
-
somebody a
-
spiritual slap
-
in the face,
-
you're a
-
child of the
-
devil.
-
I don't
-
believe that's
-
the way
-
Jesus spoke
-
these words
-
and I don't
-
think we
-
should either.
-
Let's
-
pray.
-
Father in
-
heaven, thank
-
you for
-
sending Jesus.
-
Lord Jesus,
-
thank you for
-
speaking these
-
words to us.
-
We don't
-
necessarily like
-
these words.
-
They are
-
uncomfortable,
-
they are
-
hard, and
-
yet we know
-
that they
-
are true and
-
we need to
-
hear them.
-
Thank you
-
that you have
-
made a way
-
for us to
-
become children
-
of God.
-
It's a
-
wonderful gift.
-
We praise
-
your name for
-
it.
-
Amen.