Sermon
1 Peter: Hope and Relationships
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A lot of new faces.
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So if this is your first time, welcome to Watermark.
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If this is your 100th time, welcome.
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My name is Tobin, and I'm one of the pastors here.
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If you're joining us for the first time, we have been looking at the book of 1 Peter.
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1 Peter was written by Peter to Christians,
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Christians who were churches that were probably 20 to 30 years old.
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They were growing, they were vibrant, but there was a problem.
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There was a problem, and it was that there was persecution coming along very quickly and rapidly,
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and the Christians didn't know how to act in a world that was hostile to them.
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Peter's been telling us all along, and we've been looking at it throughout this passage,
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that when we come to Christ, if you're a Christ follower here,
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that Christ's Spirit comes inside of you, and He enters into you, the Holy Spirit,
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the third person of the Trinity, He enters into you, and He starts to change us.
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He changes us. He changes the way we think.
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He changes the way we speak. He changes the way we act.
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He changes our values. He changes the way we dress.
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Some people, the change happens really quickly.
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It's like you've seen people who are addicted to something, and all of a sudden, boom,
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they're no longer addicted.
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But then for some people, the change happens slower,
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and God has different lessons to teach them,
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and different things to build into their life.
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And so He's working with each one of us as His children in a journey,
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and each one of these journeys looks different.
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We get in trouble when we start to compare our journeys with each other
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because God sees us as different people.
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We're different talents and vessels that have His image stamped on us.
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Last week, He started using different words about us.
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You remember when we talked about it last week.
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If you weren't here, go back and listen to the passage.
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He says that He started calling us things like a royal priesthood,
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and the idea was the priest was the Latin actually means a bridge builder,
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that we're bridge builders.
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We're here to build bridges between the world that doesn't know Christ
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and our community and our family.
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So we're called something different.
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We're called a holy nation.
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It's holy that we're set apart,
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and we talked about how our passports are in heaven
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and not in Hong Kong or America or Texas or wherever you're from.
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We talked about that we are these living stones,
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that we're these living stones,
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and life has been put into us by the living stone, Jesus.
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And we used an illustration.
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We talked about how Christ says that He's just His foundation.
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He's this cornerstone, this precious thing,
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and that all of us fit onto this foundation.
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This might be just our life,
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and then Jesus is in our life,
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and my life is fitting here,
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and Christ is teaching me,
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and He's ordering things and orienting things,
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and I'm learning things.
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But He says also that these rolling stones come together,
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and they lay on top of this foundation together,
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and they start to build this thing called a church.
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That's one of my prayers as a pastor often,
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and it's probably the most difficult prayer,
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is to try to pray that the holy stones will stop being rolling stones,
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and they'll come together,
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and they'll build this church,
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this vessel of God's glory and His honor.
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And we said that when we began this church,
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that several of us prayed,
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and we thought,
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well, what does it look like to be a holy nation,
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and a royal priesthood,
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and different stones, living stones.
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And we said that we felt like God was calling us within this congregation
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to do a couple things.
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We said that we would have to pray,
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and we mentioned it last week,
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that we're all called to pray.
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Someone came up to me afterwards and said,
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I mean, this isn't the venue that we always have,
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and no, you know,
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we don't know where we're going to meet almost every week.
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We find out about a month ahead,
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and we start scrambling,
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and this is the venue we want to meet in every time,
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but sometimes we don't get to meet this in here
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because there's lawyers in here,
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or a banquet in here,
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or something like that,
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and then we get put up on the 7th floor,
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and the 6th floor,
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and the 4th floor,
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or ISF,
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and all those are great places to meet,
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and we're so thankful for those places,
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but we're not choosing,
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hey, let's go on the 7th floor today,
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because I know some people really hate the 7th floor,
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and they don't like it,
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but we're just praying and saying,
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God, where do you want us,
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and we want to be here,
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and we need places for kids to meet,
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and so every Sunday is an adventure for the staff,
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and so we, as a family,
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need to be praying about those things,
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and thinking about those things.
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We said that every one of us needs to serve.
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You can't see that,
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but serve,
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that we're called to serve.
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Every Sunday,
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there's 20 to 50 people that serve in here,
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and do different things,
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and Sunday school teachers,
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and teaching,
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and leading,
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and worship,
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and we feel like if we don't all do it together,
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then it's not,
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it's not going to work,
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and so we feel like it's part of being this living stone,
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is that we come together,
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and we're all called to serve.
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If you serve one Sunday a month,
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in some capacity,
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that's amazing,
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and we usually do it within our community groups here,
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at Watermark.
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We're called to tithe,
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tithe,
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we talk about tithing,
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and giving,
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and we talk about what does that look like,
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and you know,
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we don't pass a tithe here.
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If you're new here,
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you're going to see these little purple envelopes,
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and there's little boxes here,
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but it was a step of faith for us,
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the 40 people who started.
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We said,
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hey,
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we want to bring our friends to a place
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where they're not always passing money buckets around,
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because it freaks them out,
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but we're going to talk about money,
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because we feel like it's one of the greatest hindrances
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to people in Hong Kong,
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money,
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and education,
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and power,
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and lust.
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Well,
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we're going to talk about all those things,
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but we don't pass an offering around,
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because we didn't want your guests to feel uncomfortable,
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but it means that those in the family need to give,
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and help us with the outreaches,
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and the cost of the venue,
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and all these things that are involved in being a church family,
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and building this building,
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and when we talked about,
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the last thing we said we were called to do as a holy people
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is to invest and invite,
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that we're all called to invest in people's lives,
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and invite people into the community group,
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and invite people into church,
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and there are people that you're going to meet today,
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and tomorrow,
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and at work,
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I'll never get a chance to meet.
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In fact,
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the minute I meet them,
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and I say,
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you know,
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I'm a pastor,
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they're like,
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you know,
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shut up,
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and they don't,
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you know,
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they usually say other things,
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but you,
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you get a chance to just talk about it,
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and live a life that's different,
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and that's what Peter's talking about,
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he's talking about living a life that's different,
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a life apart from words,
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and we talked last week that we all need to do this,
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as a family,
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that if one block doesn't fit in,
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then the Lego house that we built here was,
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would have holes in it,
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and it wouldn't function the way that God meant for it to function,
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and then we'd be in trouble,
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we wouldn't be the church that God wants us to be,
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because we need everybody,
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we need you to come and to serve if you're in God's family,
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we don't want you just to come and be a spectator,
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and that's what happens in churches a lot,
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right,
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sometimes churches have like a football match,
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there's 22 people playing in the front,
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and there's 80,000 people watching,
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but we believe that for you to serve,
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and to do all these things,
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it will actually make you a better you,
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it's a step of faith,
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and trusting the Lord,
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and then we come to this passage this week,
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and we're looking at it,
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and I know some of you are laughing,
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I mean some of you,
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the minute you heard the word submit,
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you just shut your mouth,
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and said there's nothing I'm going to listen to here,
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there's nothing I can learn from here,
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and some of you are laughing at me,
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because you're like,
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oh Tobin,
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he just opened this hand grenade,
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and he's holding this hand grenade there,
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and he's going to blow himself up,
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and let's see how long it takes him to blow himself up,
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with the word submit,
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maybe he'll get the pin in,
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but he's probably going to blow himself up,
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you know,
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because it's just a different,
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it's the S word,
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you know,
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in Christianity,
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and in the world today,
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no one wants to talk about submitting,
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or what that looks like,
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or submission,
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it's crazy,
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but you know,
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Paul,
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he talks about that,
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he's been talking about that,
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but it's,
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it's scary,
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it's scary,
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you know,
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I used to work in a hospital,
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I studied medicine,
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and I did trauma unit,
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which was my love,
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and then,
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I can remember,
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I was working in,
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in a cardiac care unit one day,
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and with the doctors,
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and just kind of interning,
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and watching things,
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and this guy came in,
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and he was probably my age,
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you know,
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a young 50,
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and,
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but he had had his massive heart attack,
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and he,
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I had a heart attack 10 years ago,
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mine was about medium,
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and his was really bad,
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and he was frail,
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and he was not doing good,
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and his wife came in all dressed,
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and she was,
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she looked beautiful,
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and she walked in,
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and they walked into the doctor's office,
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and the first thing the doctor said to him was,
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can you step out,
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I need to talk to your wife alone,
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and so he,
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he's kind of concerned,
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so he got up,
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and he,
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he stepped out,
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and the doctor and the wife were talking,
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and the doctor looked at him,
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and said,
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your husband's in really bad shape,
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I mean,
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any kind of stress,
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any kind of things that can agitate him,
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it will,
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it will kill him,
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and she's just taking notes,
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and listening,
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and she's just so meek,
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and so,
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and just wants to help her husband,
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right,
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and she's taking,
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he goes,
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so you just need to remove all stress from his life,
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you can't have any stress in his life,
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so when he comes home,
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there can't be any kind of stress,
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or things like that,
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and you don't need to talk about stress,
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you need to talk to the kids,
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about being quiet in the house,
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because at this point,
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it's very delicate,
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and it could kill him,
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and I mean,
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it would be really bad,
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stress is bad,
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and she's like,
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you're taking notes,
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and she goes,
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you need to,
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you need to cook him his favorite foods,
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you need to cook things that he likes,
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and because sometimes,
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eating meals can make you upset,
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and digesting,
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and things like that,
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and so you need to cook his really,
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really food,
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and go,
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okay,
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thank you doctor,
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and she goes,
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and you need to dress nicely,
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you need to present yourself,
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so whenever your husband comes to the front door,
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you,
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you greet him,
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and you smile,
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and you,
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you look the best,
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that you've ever looked,
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and you're just beautiful,
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because that would just relieve stress,
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as he walks in,
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and he was like,
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sanctuary,
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a place of home,
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it's peace,
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I'm okay,
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and she's taking these notes down,
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and he goes,
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you know,
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one other thing is,
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you need to have sex with him,
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because sex has been known to be this thing,
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that relieves a lot of tension,
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and stress,
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and so you,
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you need to,
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you need as a wife,
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to have sex with your husband,
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and in fact,
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you need to have sex whenever he wants it,
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you just need to write,
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you know,
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whenever he wants to have sex,
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whenever he engages with you,
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you just have sex,
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because that's going to take away all the tension,
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and all the pressure,
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and all the stress,
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and so that's,
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that's what you need to do,
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and she said,
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thank you doctor,
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okay,
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I'll write it down,
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and then she writes it down,
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and he goes,
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I'm going to bring your husband in,
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and you guys can talk about this,
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and so he walks,
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and he opens the door,
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and the guy,
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he comes shuffling in,
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he sits down,
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and he sits to his wife,
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because he's just thinking,
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you know,
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and he says,
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what did the doctor say?
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and she says,
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you know,
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honey,
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I love you,
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but you're going to die,
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you get it?
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Come on,
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but that's what submission is like,
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right,
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that's why it's so hard,
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and so we want to look at,
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it's a joke,
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okay,
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some of you are like,
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what?
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I worked in a trauma unit,
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but not in a cardiac unit,
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but no,
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but I think that's why it's just so difficult,
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but what we want to do today,
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in our time that we have,
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is I just want to look at submission,
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or what it means to submit,
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I want to look at a little definition of it,
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I want to look at some examples of what it is,
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and what it isn't in our world today,
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because I feel like we have all these things bombarding us,
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and this is what it means,
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this is what it doesn't mean,
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this is what it means,
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so we want to look at that definition,
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what it is or what it isn't,
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and then how do we do it,
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how do we come about it,
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and you realize right away,
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that when Paul,
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and Peter is talking about it,
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he's been talking about it throughout the whole book,
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he's been talking about it,
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about how we deal with our governments,
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he's been talking about it,
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with how we deal with our bosses,
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he's been talking about it,
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how we deal with our relationship with God,
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he's been talking about,
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how we deal with our relationship with each,
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Other. And now he talks about how we deal with it in marriage. And what scripture does, and I don't
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know if you realize this, is that when God writes the Bible, he puts these institutions that are
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over us. Some people call them umbrellas to protect us, but they're these structures, these institutions.
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And there's the institution of God in our relationship with him. There's the institution
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of government or the king. There's the institution of the family. There's the institution of the
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church. There's the institution of work. And all of these institutions are put in us, and he talks
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about them in his word. And what he says in his word is that within every one of these institutions,
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there's a structure. And within a structure, there's authority. And there's those who have authority,
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and there's those who are under authority. He says whatever structure you're in, you're either
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reporting to somebody or you have authority over somebody. And it's really important to listen to
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this, because the scripture says that authority, the word, is always used in the meaning of to
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protect and bless. When somebody has authority over somebody, whether it's the king, God, family,
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husband, church, or work, whoever has the authority over it, the meaning of it within scripture was
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to protect and to be a blessing. Authority was never meant to benefit the person who has authority.
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In scripture, you'll never see that. That's not how God prescribes that. He always says that authority
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is over us to protect us and to make us thrive. And that's the number one responsibility for those
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who have that authority. But what scripture says is that sin came in, and it broke up all of these
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relationships. Our relationship with God, our relationship with the government, our relationship
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with the church, our relationship with each other, our relationship with work, our relationship with
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the family. And it broke up all these authority structures. And so now people don't know what to do and how
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to live within these things. And so Peter is teaching you and me, he's saying as Christians now, we need to go
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back to the way it was before. That when God's spirit comes into us, God's spirit changes us. The word submit,
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it's a military term. It actually means to stay in rank. That's what the Greek word means. It means just
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to get put in rank. But the Bible, it doesn't use it that way. The Bible uses the word submit as an
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attitude of our heart, an attitude of our mind. It says that submission is a choice. It's just something
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that we willingly yield to the one in authority. That we do it, we yield to the one in authority,
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whoever that is within the structure, God, government, church, family, husband, work. We yield to those
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people in authority because we want to honor God. Does that make sense? The word actually means that,
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it actually means, I don't like using a lot of Greek words sometimes because, yeah. But anyway,
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I can barely speak English sometimes. So, but it means to be ordered in God's will.
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So that when we're called to submit, it means that we are to follow God's will. We're to follow God's
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order within the structures that he set up for us. And the Bible never talks about submission as weakness.
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In fact, it uses God and Jesus often in submitting. Do you know that we're the only faith in the world
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that has a God who submitted? You know, no other faith, no other religion, no other belief system
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would even think about having a God who submits to people underneath him. But the passage says that Jesus,
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who is God, submitted to us so that he might bring us to a new place.
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The idea behind submission biblically is always to bless, to protect, to make better off. And the idea
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is always strength and it's always voluntary. Does that make sense? Now, the world tells us a lot of
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different things, doesn't it? I mean, the world says different things, but the Bible says this is what
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we are to do is God's people because we have a God who did it for us. When you read scripture, what you
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see right away is when God set up these structures, what he said is that unless we submit within these
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structures, unless we give in and follow out of obedience to what he said, these structures won't
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work. There's not going to be harmony between us and God. There's not going to be harmony between us
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and our government and king. There's not going to be harmony between us and our boss. There's not
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going to be harmony between us and our wives or our husbands. I mean, we talk a lot in our churches
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about serving, but what we hardly ever talk about is submitting and submission. But in the language at the
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core of serving is this idea of submitting and submission. You can't truly serve another person
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unless you submit to them and you submit to them. The scripture tells us in two books in the very front
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of the Old Testament. We're going to study them one day, probably in our fifth or sixth year.
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In Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28, it says, at one time there was an angel. He was the most beautiful angel.
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His words in Hebrew and Greek actually means he was a covering angel. He covered the throne of God.
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He's the most perfect creation. In Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14, it says that this angel, Satan,
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was kicked out of heaven because he didn't want to submit. He didn't want to submit. He didn't want to
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obey God. And then we read in the first book of the Bible, Genesis, this same angel, this demon,
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he comes into creation, into these structures, and he enters right into the relationship of man and God
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and husband and wife. And what he does is he uses the same thing that he used on himself.
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He talks to Adam and Eve about looking out after their own interest.
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He talks to Adam and Eve about disobeying God and not submitting to him because if you submit to him,
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then you're not going to get everything that you want.
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And they listened. And those structures became fractured.
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I mean, you see it again in the Matthew and Mark and Luke. We spent three years going through Luke.
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And all throughout Luke, you see that Satan, this perfect angel who's fallen now, he comes to Jesus.
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And how does he tempt Jesus?
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He tempts him the same way in the authority structures.
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And he tempts Jesus not to submit to God.
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He tempts Jesus not to obey God.
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He tempts Jesus to be independent of God.
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And the scripture says over and over and over that at the center of all of our relationships,
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at the center of all that God has created,
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there's this core sense of us working together,
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thinking the best of each other,
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sacrificing for each other,
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loving each other,
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submitting to each other,
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that this thing is at the center of it.
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And Jesus talked about it all the time in the Gospels, right?
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He said, hey, just don't,
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it's not enough just to believe me.
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He says, believe me and follow me.
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Follow, that word means to submit.
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It means to take our interest and put them below the interest of the person that we're helping or serving or following.
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Does that make sense?
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Now, this is a foundation.
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I know I'm going to,
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this is the hand grenade.
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I'm trying to hold on to it,
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but eventually I'm going to let it go.
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The good thing about letting it go is when it blows up and people get angry,
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I'm here.
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You can write me in emails.
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You can write the elders' emails.
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We're happy to get together with you.
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We want to discuss God's word
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because we want to be a healthy church.
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We want to be a healthy family.
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We want to be a healthy community.
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We want to be an amazing, healthy city, Hong Kong.
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So the grenade's going to blow up.
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Some of you, it's already blown up and you got shrapnel everywhere,
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but I'm not leaving.
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So you can email me.
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You can get angry with me.
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You can get angry with the elders,
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but let's talk about it.
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But what I hope you're dealing with is not me.
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I hope you're dealing with God.
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Because if you come to church every Sunday
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and there's nothing that ever bothers you in here,
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that's bad.
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Because God's words and his commandments and the laws,
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they are hard sometimes.
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And Jesus calls us to struggle.
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And I think this is one of the areas that I struggle with so much,
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and it is so hard.
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You know, the world says that submission has to be limited.
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The world says limit your submission
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and make it all about authority.
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Only submit to those people who can beat you up.
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Only submit to those people who can get you what you need.
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I mean, we tend to think of submission as this.
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It's Tobin, and there's people above me,
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and there's people below me.
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People above me, I submit to.
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They have authority to me, so I obey them.
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People below me, they listen to me.
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But my goal in life,
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my goal in life is to take those people from the top
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and put them where?
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Come on.
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It's church.
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You can talk.
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Where?
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I want to put them underneath me, right?
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I mean, to be successful in every area of life,
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whether it's my finances or the stuff I have
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or the house I have
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or the kids that go to school,
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my goal is always to take these people who are above me
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to put them below me.
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And the more people that are below me than above me,
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that ratio determines how successful I am.
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And that's the struggle we have all the time.
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The disciples had that problem, didn't they?
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I mean, over and over, Jesus was saying,
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what are you guys talking about?
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They're talking about who's the greatest in the kingdom.
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They wanted to put people that were above them below them
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and people who were below them above them,
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and they wanted to put themselves above.
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But what the Bible says
-
and what Peter's been trying to tell us
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throughout these passages is that submission is broad.
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Submission is to our peers,
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and it's to those not in authority over us.
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Submission is in God's kingdom.
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I mean, in God's kingdom, we've been reading,
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and it says the greatest person in God's kingdom
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is the person who serves everyone.
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The greatest person in God's kingdom
-
is the person who serves everyone.
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And when he says that, he's thinking of Jesus, right?
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And he's thinking of us.
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He said, hey, Tobin,
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don't just place your interest before others,
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but seek other person's glory.
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Seek other people's benefit.
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The world's going to tell you this,
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but the Bible says this.
-
I mean, the world says that submission
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should only be observed
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if your best interest is at heart, right?
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Doesn't it?
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I mean, the world says that if someone is watching,
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you submit.
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Right?
-
I mean, we have radar detectors in our cars,
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some of us,
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because we want to see if somebody's watching.
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If they're watching,
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we slow down.
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I mean, we're at work,
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and we want to make sure that our boss is there
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when we get in there,
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or before we get in there,
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and we want to make sure our boss leaves,
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you know,
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way before we leave,
-
because we realize that there's this idea of submitting,
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and if somebody's watching,
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then we do it.
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But if not, no.
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I mean, many of us in here, right,
-
you're working crazy hours.
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You're working unhealthy hours.
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You're working insane hours.
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You're working for this big paycheck or a bonus.
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I mean, we,
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the world tells us,
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if you submit,
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you won't experience pain.
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You won't experience suffering.
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I mean, most of our lives,
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as people in the world,
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we're trying to get rid of pain and suffering,
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aren't we?
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If I submit to my boss,
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I'm not going to have the pain of losing my job.
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If I submit to this person,
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then I'm not going to experience suffering.
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If I submit to my husband,
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or I submit to my wife,
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then my life will be easier,
-
because I'm not going to have all this suffering.
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I mean, that's what the world says.
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See, the pin is flying off right now,
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and the hand grenade's about to blow up.
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But, you know,
-
but what the Bible says is that our submission is,
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is motivated by faith.
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The Bible says our submission is motivated by hope.
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The Bible says our submission is motivated by love.
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I mean, the Bible says that as Christians,
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when we submit,
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submit that we actually often move towards suffering.
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We actually often move towards pain.
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We actually often do things that make us very uncomfortable
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and very difficult.
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The world says,
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no, get away from those things,
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but what Scripture says is,
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we're following Christ.
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Christ is throwing himself on the hand grenade.
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So we, as Christians,
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are called to move towards self-sacrifice.
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We're actually called towards to move pain,
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and you know what the hard thing about being a Christian is sometimes?
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Paul says this.
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He says,
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sometimes you're going to do those things,
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and you're never going to receive your reward here.
-
I mean, most of us do things so we can receive our reward here and now.
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But Paul says if we follow God,
-
that the benefit of that,
-
we might not ever even receive that until we get to heaven.
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For some of us who like the gospel sexy,
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I come to Christ, everything's perfect,
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I get a Rolex,
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I get a beautiful wife,
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everything works out.
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We don't like to hear those things.
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But Paul's saying this is what happens in the real world.
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Can I share one more?
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Is that okay?
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Can I share one?
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These are all personal.
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These are all me, okay?
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This is Tobin.
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I'm sharing you.
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Okay, one thing,
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and then I'm going to bring a special speaker up here
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who's much wiser than I am.
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This is what I've been learning.
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In Tobin's world,
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the idea of submission often involves complex sets of rules
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and regulations in gray areas.
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In Tobin's world,
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submission has to be centered around rules
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and what's enough and what's not enough
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and what should I do and what shouldn't I do
-
and all these regulations.
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Is it like that in your world?
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I mean, when you read the Old Testament,
-
it's full of it, right?
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The people of God,
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they were given 12 commandments,
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but how many rules did they end up with?
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Hundreds.
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Hundreds of rules.
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Why?
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Well, what you see eventually is that the people,
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they didn't really love God.
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They didn't really want to submit to God.
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And so they set up all these different rules
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to see how close they could get to doing things
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so that it wasn't comfortable enough for them.
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We do that, don't we?
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I mean,
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my kids are,
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are my kids in here?
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They're not in here.
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My kids are playing.
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Kip's here.
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I won't use your name this time, buddy.
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But my kids are playing.
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And all of a sudden I hear a scream
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and I walk in there
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and I say,
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what happened?
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Well,
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so-and-so hit me.
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Okay.
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So that's what I usually do.
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I usually find blames.
-
Christina's really going,
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oh,
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so tell me what happened here.
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But I walk in there like,
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okay,
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let's deal with it right away.
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So what happened?
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So-and-so hit me.
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Oh,
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did you hit them?
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No.
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So what did you do?
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I flicked them.
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Okay.
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No hitting,
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no flicking.
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Have fun
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and be nice to each other.
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It's about 20 minutes later, right?
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People start freaking out and screaming.
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And I walk in there and go,
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what happened?
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Did you hit somebody?
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No.
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Did you flick somebody?
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No.
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I bumped them.
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But we laugh, right?
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But we do that too,
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don't we?
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Don't we do that?
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I mean,
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the command is there
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and we look at it
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and we go,
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oh,
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but you know,
-
what if I just did this instead?
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What does it mean to serve?
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Or what does it mean to give?
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Or what does it really mean
-
to pray for people?
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What does it really mean
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to be a part of a church?
-
I mean,
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I'm doing a sliver of that thing, right?
-
That's okay, right?
-
In Tobin's world,
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the laws multiply
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and they flourish
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when there's no inward submission
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in my heart.
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If my heart isn't after the Lord,
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if my heart isn't to love my life,
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if my heart isn't to be a good
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wherever God's placed me,
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then I set up all these rules
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and these gradations
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so that I can feel good about myself.
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Am I just talking to myself?
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We all flick,
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hit,
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push,
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tug,
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because we don't want to obey.
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We don't want to submit.
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And so Peter comes to this passage today
-
and he talks about
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this next relationship
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and it's husband and wife.
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He talks about how wives and husbands
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should interact,
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but he's been talking about it all along
-
within the government
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and within the work.
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He's been talking about
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how we're different.
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And so what I thought I would do
-
is I would drop the grenade
-
on my marriage.
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And so I've asked
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probably the wisest person
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that I know,
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my wife Christina,
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to come up
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and I want to ask her
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some questions about this passage.
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So Christina,
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will you come up here?
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Okay.
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How are you doing?
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Are you worried?
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Okay.
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So we haven't actually
-
talked about this a lot.
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We looked at the passages
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and things like that.
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Christina and I have been married
-
for 17 years now, right?
-
And we have four kids, right?
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And Christina was heavily involved
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in ministry.
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What you don't know
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is she's an amazing discipler.
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Okay, you don't have to say all that.
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She's probably just as gifted as I am.
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Or more.
-
You think you have a pastor
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in the church,
-
but you really have two people
-
working for the church, right?
-
That's the way we see it.
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We're a package deal.
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So Christina,
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when you look at this passage for...
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Does that mean I have to get up here
-
every time you ask me?
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Okay.
-
So if we look at 1 Peter 2 and 3,
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1 through 9,
-
maybe just the question
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we thought about was,
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what in your life,
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how have you come to think
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about this idea of concept
-
of marriage
-
and submission within marriage?
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Okay.
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Well, first off,
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I have to say that
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when Tobin asked me
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to come up here,
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I didn't want to.
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So this is definitely
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you're seeing submission in action.
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But we just got back
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from the summary
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and I asked him
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about his sermon series
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and he was like,
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okay, we're going to talk about stuff
-
and I want you to come up.
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And I said,
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oh no,
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you know,
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just trying to settle in,
-
get the kids in school.
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I really don't want to have to,
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you know,
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think about something like that.
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And he goes,
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but it's the subject submission.
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Oh, okay, great, lovely.
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So yeah, so I'm here.
-
So I grew up in a family
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that actually did live by this concept.
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And so I did see this role model to me.
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And I remember actually very clearly
-
my grandmother talking to me
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about one time.
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She, her husband,
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and she would travel around the world actually.
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And back then,
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that was quite extravagant
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and people didn't do,
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didn't travel around the world
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back in my grandparents' day very often.
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And so,
-
but my grandfather really liked to do this.
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And so my grandmother was,
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I guess this particular time was like,
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you know,
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I don't see the purpose in it.
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Why do we have to go on another,
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you know, holiday?
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It's a holiday.
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It's, you'd think you'd be excited,
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but there's,
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why do we have to do this?
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And she said,
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but you know,
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every time I followed my husband
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and every time
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the Lord,
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I'd be along the way
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and I'd talk to somebody
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and this specific time
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they went to Europe or something.
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And she said,
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and I talked to somebody,
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you know,
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along the way
-
and I was able to share my faith with them.
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And it was such an encouraging time.
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And so the Lord always,
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you know,
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it always gave me a purpose in it.
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And so that was kind of what I saw
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growing up
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with my family.
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But also,
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I did struggle with this concept
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when it came to husband and wife relationships
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because just what we learn in society,
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you know,
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that it's a superior versus inferior thing,
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which is what I've come to believe
-
is not what the Bible is saying,
-
but our world says that.
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And I think that as I talk with women,
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my friends,
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our study groups that we do together,
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you know,
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we always push back
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when we hear that
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because we think of,
-
you know,
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Confucianism says that
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that submission is,
-
there's a superior and an inferior,
-
right?
-
And so it wasn't until
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I was shown 1 Corinthians 3,
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11, 3,
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that I really learned to accept this more
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and realize that it's God's order of things.
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It's a structure.
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It doesn't have anything to do about equality.
-
And that made me be able to relax
-
and open up and go,
-
okay,
-
maybe I can listen to this more
-
and see what God has to say
-
if it's not about equality.
-
Do you want to read that passage?
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It's in the bulletin.
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Oh,
-
okay.
-
So it talks,
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it says that,
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that Jesus Christ
-
submits to God the Father
-
and that man submits to Jesus Christ
-
and that woman submits to man.
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So where it starts to rub me wrong,
-
I was like,
-
wow,
-
well,
-
is Jesus equal to God the Father?
-
Yes.
-
The Bible talks about the Trinity
-
and so,
-
and how they're equal.
-
They are all God,
-
right?
-
Three parts.
-
But Jesus submitted to God the Father,
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so they're equal.
-
It doesn't have anything to do with superiority
-
or inferiority.
-
So then,
-
wow,
-
if Jesus submitted to God,
-
perhaps I can submit to my husband.
-
And the verse that we're talking about says,
-
you know,
-
submitting to your husband.
-
And I just want to make clear
-
that the Bible does not say
-
submitting to your boyfriend
-
or all men,
-
right?
-
Like some cultures say,
-
actually,
-
right?
-
So the biblical way
-
is only your husband.
-
And so I do actually think
-
that's important
-
because sometimes we think the other.
-
So anyways,
-
I think that in light of this,
-
that submission is not
-
an ignorance,
-
right?
-
That I walk around in ignorance
-
or ignorant to the situation,
-
any situation.
-
It does not mean
-
that I'm subservient
-
to my husband.
-
It does not mean
-
that I have to be silent
-
when my husband sins.
-
I need to admonish him
-
and love him in Christ
-
as a brother.
-
It does not give me,
-
this is not an excuse
-
for abuse
-
in families,
-
right?
-
If you
-
feel threatened
-
in any way
-
for your safety,
-
this is not an excuse
-
for that to go on.
-
You need to ask for help
-
from others,
-
right?
-
So that's not what
-
he's talking about.
-
But if it is
-
an average unkindness
-
within the family
-
or a lack of love,
-
God says that he
-
is going to be the one
-
to judge them.
-
And so it's not my place.
-
I don't have to be the one
-
to take revenge
-
or to fight back.
-
But you never had that happen
-
in our family at all.
-
Never, ever.
-
I'll just wait.
-
You just wait.
-
It's very risky
-
for him to ask me up here.
-
Maybe he won't do it again.
-
How about that?
-
So it's not our place
-
of revenge,
-
but what the verse says
-
that we're talking about,
-
it's an opportunity
-
for us to show
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God's love
-
and grace
-
to our husbands
-
as a witness,
-
right?
-
For them,
-
to them.
-
As a witness
-
to win them
-
over to Christ
-
or as a witness
-
to draw them
-
closer to Christ.
-
So I've come to see
-
that this is a choice
-
that God has given
-
to us as wives.
-
It's not a commandment
-
from my husband,
-
which I'm very happy about.
-
And in Colossians 3, 23,
-
it says that I'm not even
-
really submitting
-
to my husband.
-
I'm submitting ultimately
-
to God.
-
Don't tell him that
-
because I think he likes it
-
when he thinks
-
I'm yielding to him.
-
No, I'm yielding to God,
-
really.
-
You know,
-
and if you think about it,
-
that means
-
that my loving him
-
or yielding my own desires
-
is actually not based
-
on his performance,
-
right?
-
And so if it's not based
-
on his performance,
-
then when I'm obeying
-
my Lord
-
and I'm following God
-
and I'm trusting
-
and caring
-
that he's going
-
to take care of me,
-
I don't have to worry
-
about my own self,
-
that I'm following him.
-
And this can actually
-
save marriages.
-
I think I've seen it
-
save marriages
-
when women are willing
-
to lay their life down
-
for their husband.
-
Also, in Ephesians 4,
-
it says that God calls us
-
to be humble,
-
gentle, patient,
-
bearing one another's burdens
-
in love.
-
And I grew up
-
going to a summer camp
-
where we had a motto
-
that we went around
-
cheering,
-
chanting all day
-
and it's called
-
the I'm Third model
-
and it's where
-
God is first,
-
others are second,
-
and myself third.
-
So that became
-
my motto in life.
-
Not that I'm very good at it,
-
but you know.
-
So the next question
-
will be when we talked
-
about it,
-
it's like what are
-
some of the hardships
-
or benefits
-
that maybe you've,
-
probably no hardships
-
in our marriage,
-
but the benefits
-
are huge.
-
So what are the benefits
-
that you've experienced
-
in our lives
-
as you've lived out
-
this principle?
-
I know I'm just,
-
boom, boom, boom.
-
You're having a lot of fun,
-
right?
-
Yeah, yeah.
-
Well, really I don't know
-
why I'm up here
-
because I'm not very good
-
at this thing
-
called submission anyway,
-
so I don't know.
-
I do remember
-
the first time
-
in our marriage
-
when we just got married
-
when I did submit
-
for the first time.
-
I remember it very clearly
-
maybe because,
-
you know,
-
I had to,
-
it was the first time
-
I actually did it.
-
And we were moving
-
to China
-
and we,
-
I had,
-
Tobin had given me
-
this ring
-
to get,
-
as an engagement ring
-
and our marriage ring
-
and he said,
-
well,
-
there's,
-
uninsurable in China,
-
so I don't want you
-
to take it with you.
-
I had,
-
you know,
-
and I'm like,
-
wait a minute.
-
I just waited 30 years
-
for this ring.
-
And it might seem silly now,
-
but I was like,
-
and my grandmother,
-
you know,
-
my grandmother has,
-
her stone is in this ring
-
and I'm never,
-
ever going to take it off.
-
So,
-
you know,
-
nobody's ever going to steal it.
-
I don't think it needs
-
to be insured anyway
-
and so it's really
-
not a big deal
-
and,
-
you know,
-
I want to take,
-
I want to take this ring.
-
This is very symbolic for me.
-
And then at the end of the day,
-
you know,
-
he said,
-
I really don't think you should,
-
I don't want you to risk it.
-
I don't want you to take it.
-
So I remember
-
that was the first time
-
I put it in the safety deposit box
-
and I didn't see it again
-
for another five years.
-
And it was very sad,
-
but I did it
-
and I don't know
-
that there were necessarily
-
any benefits
-
that came out of it for me.
-
Except for the fact that,
-
you know,
-
it's the first time
-
I totally remembered
-
having to not get my way,
-
right?
-
So,
-
but other things like,
-
even silly things like,
-
you know,
-
going on a date night
-
and we go to dinner.
-
And, you know,
-
we've had major blot arguments
-
over where we're going to dinner.
-
And if I only would have just,
-
you know,
-
said,
-
oh,
-
I think about the other person
-
instead of me,
-
it wouldn't have been such a,
-
you know,
-
ruined our whole evening,
-
right?
-
Tobin loves Western food
-
and I like Chinese food.
-
That's,
-
that's the,
-
that's our issue.
-
And then,
-
when we,
-
we started doing
-
these Israel trips,
-
just trying to give you
-
a few examples of,
-
of our life.
-
We started doing
-
these Israel trips
-
when we take tour groups
-
over to see the Holy Land
-
and my children,
-
when we started doing it,
-
my children were quite young.
-
They were babies.
-
And so,
-
when he first asked me,
-
he said,
-
let's do this together.
-
I don't want to do this
-
without you.
-
Let's do it together.
-
And I said,
-
any mom in their right mind
-
would not leave
-
their one-year-old child.
-
I was nursing.
-
The last time I,
-
the last time I nursed my child
-
was the day before
-
we went on this trip,
-
you know,
-
to go,
-
you know,
-
and do this,
-
you know.
-
And,
-
but I said,
-
okay,
-
I'm going to follow my husband
-
and it has been
-
an amazing adventure.
-
I was able to go
-
and walk in the footsteps
-
of Jesus,
-
you know,
-
and learn a ton.
-
And my children,
-
I think,
-
are still okay.
-
And,
-
yes,
-
even God asks me
-
to yield
-
and serve my husband
-
in sex,
-
which he's very happy about.
-
Okay.
-
So,
-
whether it's seemingly
-
a small thing
-
or a large thing
-
that we are giving up
-
our,
-
yielding our own desires to,
-
I don't want,
-
I don't,
-
don't let anybody
-
convince you
-
that it is easy
-
to submit,
-
right,
-
or to serve another
-
before yourself
-
because it's or not,
-
right?
-
Because we all have
-
stubborn self-wills,
-
right?
-
But this is the beauty of it.
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I think that's,
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this is the beauty of it
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is that only through
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Jesus Christ
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can we have the ability
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to obey the Lord.
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That he gives us that.
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He gives us this,
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he doesn't leave us alone
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to do it on our own.
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He gives us the Lord.
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He gives us the fruits
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of the Holy Spirit.
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He gives us his spirit.
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And even when we don't,
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you know,
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obey God,
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he forgives us.
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Right?
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And he seems to always
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have future opportunities
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for me
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to follow him
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in this way.
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I have a few,
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just a few more things.
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One thing.
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For me,
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I pray a lot.
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I pray
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for our relationship
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and I pray
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for Tobin
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as he leads our family.
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I pray,
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I ask God
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to help yield myself
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to him,
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to Christ,
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and to trust,
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that I can trust
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and care for him.
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I read these verses
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a lot,
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actually.
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I did a whole study once
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on the role of men
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and women,
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which was fascinating.
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I remember that,
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I try to remember
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why I'm doing this.
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I'm doing this
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because it is
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to win over my husband
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to Christ
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or closer to Christ.
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And he says,
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in these verses,
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he says,
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it actually makes me
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beautiful in his eyes
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when I follow God's ways.
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And as a woman,
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I do desire
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to be beautiful
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and to be precious
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to God.
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So that's some
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of my motivation.
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I hope it encourages you.
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That's the only reason
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I really got up here
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was to hopefully
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encourage other women
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and love my husband.
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Thank you, Hannah.
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You're going to be
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excited.
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So the third question
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I was going to ask
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is when we first
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saw each other,
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you were checking me out.
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I just want to know
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what was it
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that drew you to me,
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right?
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Teasing.
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You know,
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the passage
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is talking
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to all of us.
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We talk about it
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and it makes a big deal
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within marriage,
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but Peter's been saying
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it's within all
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our relationships.
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It's for married people,
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it's for wives,
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it's for husbands,
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it's for single people.
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All the citizens
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of God's kingdom
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are called
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to submit
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and to
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seek the other person's
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glory
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and betterness
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than our own.
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I don't know
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how you feel.
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I mean, again,
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this is a grenade,
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it's going off,
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and we're thinking
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about these things.
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You're thinking in yourself,
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okay, what does this mean
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for me at work?
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Maybe some of you
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are thinking,
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what does this really mean
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for me in my dating relationship
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or with the other singles
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I hang out with?
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What does that mean?
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What does it mean
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for me at school?
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I'm a student,
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and I'm submitting.
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Am I submitting
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just so my teachers
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see me do things
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and they think,
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wow, he's a great student,
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or is my heart behind it
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and I'm really trying
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to honor God
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as God's child?
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What does it mean
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in church
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when I'm doing things?
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Am I doing things
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because people are watching me
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or is it because
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I'm doing it
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for the Lord
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so that I'll be beautiful
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in his sight?
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There's a lot of things
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we need to unpack here,
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and hopefully as you go out
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and we meet in community groups
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this week,
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we'll be talking about
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some of these things
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and thinking about these things,
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but the last thing
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the passage says
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is this,
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because these things,
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if you go out
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and you try to do it
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on your own,
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you're going to fail
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every time.
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And what he talks about
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in 1 Peter 2
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verses 21 through 25
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is how this all
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is possible in our life.
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And what he says is this,
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that you and I
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on our own
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are dead,
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we can't do anything.
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But Christ came
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and he submitted
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on a cross.
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He submitted himself
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to God's will,
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he put us
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above himself.
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This is God, right?
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This is,
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if you think about
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the hierarchy structure,
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God puts himself
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above us
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and he dies for us
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on the cross
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so that we then
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can come back
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into this relationship
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that we're broken
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but now they're fixed.
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And what he says
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is the only way
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that we can do this
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as a church family,
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the only way
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we can even hope
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to do this
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as husbands and wives
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and single people,
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the only way
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we can hope to do this
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is by continually
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coming to the Lord
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that's inside of us
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and praying to him
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and reading his word
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and submitting our lives
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and confessing
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we may do it wrong
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because we're not up here
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saying we do it right
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even 50% of the time.
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We struggle all the time.
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But what we know
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is that God's spirit
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inside of us
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is continually empowering us
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and continually giving us
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choices that we never had before.
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And the choice now
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is am I going to submit
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and do what I know
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is best for Christina
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or am I going to stay selfish
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and do what is best
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for Tobin?
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When I got married
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I had a terrible time
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with marriage
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because I thought marriage
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was just like the rest
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of single guyhood.
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We all have uniforms.
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The goal is to make sure
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your uniform wins
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and the other uniforms lose.
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But what I didn't realize
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in marriage
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is that your husband
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and your wife
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you have the same uniform.
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And if your wife loses
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you lose.
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But what the passage
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is saying here
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is as God's children
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that all of us
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have the same uniform.
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And if we try to win
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then the body of Christ loses.
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And the people around us lose.
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And the only way
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we're going to win
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is by continually submitting
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to Christ
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and the power within us.
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He says a very interesting
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word there
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and there's two phrases
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I want you to think about
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as you leave.
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He says Christ gave us
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a pattern.
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It's a very interesting
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Greek word.
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It actually means a tracing.
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What it means is this
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that Christ traced his life
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on his piece of paper.
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And every day
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you and I have a choice
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to lay our life
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piece of paper
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on top of this paper
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and start to trace our life
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over what Christ did.
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Christ left us a tracing.
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Now some of us
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aren't in the family yet
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and we're tracing
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dollar signs
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or we're tracing
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power
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or we're chasing
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Citibank
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or whatever we think
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is going to bring us
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hope and satisfaction
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and meaning.
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But the passage says here
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that Christ left us
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this tracing,
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this pattern
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and now as his people
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we have a choice
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because his spirit
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inside of us
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gives us the power
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to do that.
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He says that Christ
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walked these footsteps.
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The imagery is very strong
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in the language.
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What it means is
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this dad walked on this beach
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and the little kid
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is walking behind the dad
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in the dad's footprints.
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And what Peter is saying
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is as we walk
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with God together,
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as the spirit
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changes our lives,
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we start to take
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our footprints
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and we start to take
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our patterns
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and we start to pattern
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them after Christ.
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We start walking
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in his footsteps.
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But every day
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is a choice.
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You and I
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have a choice.
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Are we going
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to submit
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and follow the God,
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the creator
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of our soul?
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Or are we going
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to trace our lives
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after something else?
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It's interesting to me,
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Peter wrote this passage
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to people who were
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very, very mature Christians.
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They've been walking
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with God 20 and 30 years
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and he still comes back
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to the same thing
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every time.
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he comes back
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to the cross.
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He comes back
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to Jesus' sacrifice
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for life.
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And what I understand
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as a pastor
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is that that's what
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all of our life
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is about.
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Understanding the cross,
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how it impacts
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our work,
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how we interact
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with our government,
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how we interact
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with our family,
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how we interact
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with our colleagues,
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how we interact
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with other singles,
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understanding grace
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and the power
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of God's spirit
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within us.
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we can give you
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50 things to do
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when you leave here
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but all that's going
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to do is make
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your performance better.
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It's going to be
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those laws,
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Tobin's laws,
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prolific.
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But what we're talking
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about is our heart.
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And the choice is
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are we going to let God
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change our heart
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or are we going
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to keep the heart
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the same way it is?
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It's step by step.
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I fail, fail, fail, fail.
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Okay, God does something.
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Fail, fail, fail.
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Okay, God does something.
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But when I realize
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that God is taking
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us on a journey
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and the question is
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do we want to go with him?
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Does that make sense?
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Always comes back
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to the cross.
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Always comes back
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to what Jesus did.
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Always comes back
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to a choice.
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Are we going to use
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that power,
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allow that power
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to change us?
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Or are we going
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to follow
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in somebody else's
-
footsteps?
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Father, we thank you
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for this day.
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We thank you
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for your word
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that is living
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and active.
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This is true today
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as it was
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2,000 years ago
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as Peter shared it
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to all these churches
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that were about
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to struggle
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with persecution
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and death
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and difficulties
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as your people.
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Father, I pray
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for us in here.
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I know that there
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are many of us
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in here right now
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that we are
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copying,
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drawing,
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tracing
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something else
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besides you.
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We have our hope
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in the job.
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We have our hope
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in Hong Kong.
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We have our hope
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in our body.
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We have our hope
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in our ability
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to think
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and be clear
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and outthink
-
and outtalk
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other people.
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We have our hope
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in all these things
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and we're tracing
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this life.
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But if we were honest
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and looked
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at the end picture,
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we'd realize
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that there's very,
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very little hope
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there.
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So I pray
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for those of us
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in here
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who are tracing
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something different
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and haven't yet
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entered into the family.
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I pray that they
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would ask questions.
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They would seek
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the people that brought them.
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I pray they would come
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talk to Christina
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and myself
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and we would talk
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about these things
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and look at your son
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and look at the claims
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of your word.
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And Lord,
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for the rest of us
-
in here who've been
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on this journey
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and we've been walking
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in these footprints
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but then all of a sudden
-
we realize
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that we've lost
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the footprints
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and we look behind us
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and we look in front of us
-
and there's no feet
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and we're just going
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down this trail
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on our own
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and in our own power
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and our own strength
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and we're lost.
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Father,
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we just come before you
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and we just confess
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that our selfishness
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and our pride
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and our arrogance
-
and our self-sufficiency
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is your people.
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We're so thankful
-
that you're always
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watching us.
-
We're so thankful
-
that you give us
-
other opportunities
-
to obey
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and to trust you.
-
We're so thankful
-
that you're the God
-
of second chances
-
and that you never,
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you never,
-
you never give up on us
-
as we sing
-
but I don't know
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if we really believe that.
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Lord,
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we pray for this church
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and we pray
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for the people
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who serve
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and for the people
-
who speak
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and pray that our lives
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are different
-
than the people around us.
-
We pray for the offering
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that's being taken
-
that it would honor you
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and allow us to do
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the ministries
-
that you've called us to do
-
and we pray
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just that we would be
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your hands
-
and your feet
-
in this amazing city
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called Hong Kong.
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Father,
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thank you
-
that we do it together
-
and I pray
-
that there's any words
-
that we spoke today
-
that were not of you
-
that we would quickly
-
forget those things
-
but your word,
-
that precious nugget
-
of your son
-
and his life,
-
help us to think
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about that.
-
Help us to live that out
-
in every area
-
of our life.
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I know there are
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students here,
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there's teachers here,
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there's doctors here,
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there's lawyers here,
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there's bankers,
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there's housewives,
-
there's husband wives,
-
our husbands
-
and all those people
-
where we have to
-
just every day
-
think about
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what does it mean for me?
-
What does it mean for me?
-
What does it mean for me
-
to trace my life
-
after Christ?
-
What does it mean for me
-
to walk in his footsteps?
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I know that we need
-
this message even more
-
when difficult times come
-
and your word says they will.
-
If we're different,
-
difficult times will come
-
but we have a shepherd
-
who watches after our soul
-
and who takes care of us.
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And so we come to you today,
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our shepherd.
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We love you.
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We need you.
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We pray these things
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in Jesus' holy name.
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Amen.