Sermon
The Four Horsemen
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Father, you speak to us hard words, and as you speak your hard words to us, Father, if
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we are honest, it opens up to us our confusion and our ambivalence and our desires to hide
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from you and to run from you.
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Father, we know that even your hard words are in fact words of mercy, that our calls
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and appeals to us, Father, to turn and come to you, to receive grace and mercy from you.
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So, Father, we ask in your mercy and in your kindness that your Holy Spirit would gently
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but deeply fall upon us as we listen to your word and as we think upon your word.
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And may your word work with power in our lives.
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And this we ask in your name, Jesus.
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Amen.
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Please be seated.
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Thank you.
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Suffering.
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What about suffering?
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One of the things I tell people when I give advice about preaching is don't treat sermons
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like school or like university lectures.
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You know, in a university lecture, they can say, well, in the last class we looked at this
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and today we're looking at this and sort of never say something like that in a congregation.
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Hopefully the minister will remember his sermon long enough to give it and hopefully it will
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have some impact in his life.
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But you shouldn't assume that church is like a lecture hall where everybody's taking notes
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and they're coming for the next installment in the lecture.
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But just having said all of that, we're preaching through the book of Revelation.
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And last week we looked at Revelation chapter 5.
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And when we were looking at Revelation chapter 5, if there was sort of one overarching point
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that we wanted to try to, we sort of could discover in Revelation 5, it was this.
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That the only one who saves is the only one who is in control of God's unfolding plan for
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the future.
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And we spent, you know, about 40 minutes sort of unpacking that and talking about that and
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seeing how it was in the scripture and sort of what it meant that the only one who saves
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is the only one who is in control of God's unfolding plan for the future.
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And while I was sort of all week as I was working on the sermon for last week, the thing that kept
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going on in my mind is that surely a lot of people will wonder if that's the case, if it is the
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case that the only one who saves is also the only one who is in control of God's unfolding
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plan for the future, then what about suffering?
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What about all the terrible things that go on in the planet?
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Like how, George, do you handle that?
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And how does the Bible handle that?
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And I never made a single comment about suffering last Sunday.
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And that's because I knew that in Revelation 6 we'd be looking at it.
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And we'll look at it in Revelation 5, I mean Revelation 8, we'll look at it in Revelation 9,
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Revelation 10.
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We're going to spend a lot of time thinking about things like suffering over the next few
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weeks as we go through the book of Revelation.
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The other thing sort of about these sermons is I don't know if you've, I don't have actually
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a bulletin up with me, but if you look at the bulletin in the notes, and I think it
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comes up at some point in time in the sermon notes, I'm not sure about that, the slides,
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but all of this, all of my sermons in the book of Revelation have a title.
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And the title is, Following the Lamb in the Dying Days of the Dragon.
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That's the overarching sermon series title, Following the Lamb in the Dying Days of the
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Dragon.
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And so last week in Revelation 5, that's where we actually met the lamb for the first time.
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And today, as we talk a little bit about suffering, we don't yet meet the dragon.
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What we meet are some of the dragon's friends.
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First we meet the dragon's friends, and then we meet the dragon, which will be in a few more
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chapters.
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So it would be a great help to me if you were to turn in your Bibles to Revelation chapter
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6, and let's meet some of the dragon's friends, at least in Scripture.
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Revelation chapter 6.
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We always have some free and available Bibles up at the front if you've forgotten to bring
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your own Bible.
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Those who use your iPads and phones to follow along the Bible, that's really great.
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Just don't check your Facebook status or update at the same time.
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Try to stay focused on the Bible.
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That would be great.
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So Revelation chapter 6.
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Let's read it.
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And Nora did such a spectacular job of reading it, didn't she?
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When she reads a text like this, it grips us, actually.
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And that makes it far easier to talk about it after having her read it.
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Verse 1 of chapter 6.
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Now I watched when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four
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living creatures say with a voice like thunder, Come.
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And I looked, and behold, a white horse, and its rider had a bow, and a crown was given
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to him.
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And he came out conquering, and to conquer.
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And I just sort of want to pause there for a second.
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And here's the really striking thing.
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I don't know how many of you noticed this, but it's actually quite striking.
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Andrew, if you want to put the first point up for Rebecca, here's the thing which is
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quite striking.
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The Lamb who was slain opens the seals.
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I don't know if you noticed that when Nora was reading it, and we're going to look at
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the text again.
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The rider that comes out conquering, and to conquer.
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The rider that comes out with the power for people to fight each other and kill them.
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The rider that comes out and is given the power to bring famine.
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The rider that comes out and is given the power of death, and of famine, and of pestilence,
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and of all sorts of civil unrest.
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In every one of these cases, as this suffering unfolds, as this suffering and hardship comes
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to earth, it comes as the Lamb opens the seal.
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Just as I was between these two services, the 8 o'clock service and the 10 o'clock service,
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I was in a coffee shop going over my notes, and I sort of rewrite my notes slightly between
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the two services, because, you know, just sort of sometimes moving things around.
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And I couldn't help but overhearing that every single person in the coffee shop, and probably
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on the street outside, heard this street person talking to another street person.
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And it was very, very interesting.
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He was talking to this other street person, obviously post-hangover, or maybe present hangover,
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post-drinking present hangover.
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And he had a loud, loud, smoker's raspy street person voice.
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And he was explaining to the other guy, as I'm sitting down, preparing to open up Revelation
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chapter 6, how, you know, people, I just finally understood, and people need to understand that
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the way everything is, and the way I am, and the way everything is, it's just all because
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of mutations.
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It's all just because of chance and mutations.
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There was a mutation, and then another mutation, and another mutation, and another mutation.
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And here I am, and here you are, and here everybody else is.
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And it's, in fact, the governing story of our culture was being articulated by this street
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person.
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Part of the governing story of our culture, that these blind, irrational forces over time
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created what is now life on earth, and everything that we see.
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And in the context of a culture that believes that it's blind, irrational, or non-rational,
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irrational forces that bring about the things that we see, the book of Revelation has a very,
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very powerful, different message.
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It isn't that the way that things are are a result of blind, powerful, huge, irrational,
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uncaring forces.
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But the Lamb who was slain opens the seals.
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Why is this really important?
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If the Lamb who was slain opens the seals, repentance is always an option.
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If I'm just a product of mutation, who can I call to?
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What can I do?
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If everything that's going on in the world is completely and utterly just due to the military-industrial
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complex or global oil or capitalism or socialism or the modes of production doing their unchanging,
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doing their sort of inevitable changes to bring about certain types of social constructs and
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situations, then what on earth can we do?
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But if, in fact, the Lamb who was slain opens the seals, even though the seals are going to
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describe great hardship, and they're going to describe more than just hardship, as we're
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going to get to in a moment, but if this, in fact, is true, and it doesn't mean that there
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isn't a military-industrial complex, it doesn't mean that there aren't economic forces, it doesn't
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mean that there aren't those things, that they don't exist, but it means that they have a vastly
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different power context than our culture tells us.
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It means that repentance is always an option, that prayer is always an option.
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But it's very, very important to just hear this as we go through each of the seals.
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Now, just one other thing very, very briefly.
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Some of you have maybe been wondering when I'm going to do something, which is usually what
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ministers and churches in North America do when they talk about the Book of Revelation.
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Some of you are saying, okay, George, I have, okay, I've licked my pencil.
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Okay, is this before the rapture or after the rapture?
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Is it before the tribulation, in the middle of the tribulation?
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Is the tribulation going to have these four stages?
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And here's, you see, what often happens with people who talk about the Book of Revelation
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in North American churches.
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They have this sort of timeline, which they've sort of developed from reading the Book of Revelation
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and 2 Peter and 1 and 2 Thessalonians and Matthew, Mark, and Luke.
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And they've developed it from reading Daniel and Ezekiel and Isaiah and Zechariah
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and a whole pile of other books, which would take us too long to list.
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And they sort of have this timeline, and there's the rapture, and there's the tribulation,
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and there's the judgment, and then there's the millennium, and then there's this, and then there's that.
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And so what they do is that while they're reading the Book of Revelation,
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what they really do as they read the Book of Revelation is they don't actually preach the Book of Revelation.
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I don't mean to put anybody down.
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What they don't do is actually try to preach the Book of Revelation.
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What they try to do is place everything in the timeline.
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I'm not going to do any of that.
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If you're hoping for a timeline, you can listen to CHRI.
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I think MacArthur is doing another sermon of series on this,
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and he can tell you the timeline if you want.
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I'm not going to talk about that at all.
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I'm going to preach the Book of Revelation.
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Here's one of the problems with looking at the Book of Revelation
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and trying to fit it into a timeline.
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Before we get into it, this is just a bit of a time-out learning moment.
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Just skip down to Revelation 6 and look at verses 12 and 13.
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Chapter 6, verses 12 and 13.
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When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake,
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and the sun became black as sackcloth.
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The full moon became like blood, and the stars of the sky fell to the earth
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as the fig tree sheds its winter fruit when shaken by a gale.
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So turn your page to Revelation chapter 8 and look at verse 12.
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Two chapters later, verse 12.
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The fourth angel blew his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck,
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and a third of the moon, and a third of the stars,
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so that a third of their light might be darkened.
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One moment, I thought all the stars fell from heaven.
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How, if they all fell from heaven in chapter 6,
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could there still be stars in the sky to fall, a third of them, in chapter 8?
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See, here's the thing if you read the book of Revelation.
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How many here, I can't really see, oh, here I can see.
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How many people here have seen the movie Groundhog Day?
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Okay, probably half the congregation have seen Groundhog Day.
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Okay, for the other half of you, if you want to understand most of the book of Revelation,
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watch the Groundhog Day.
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I'm only partially joking, I'm serious.
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Because the literary structure of the book of Revelation is that
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the first six seals have this progression,
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then there's an interlude,
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and then the seventh seal, what does the seventh seal do?
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The seventh seal introduces the seven trumpets,
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and then the six trumpets go right back through destruction,
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then there's a long interlude,
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and then the seventh trumpet, and what does the seventh trumpet do?
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It goes right back, it goes to the bulls,
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and all of a sudden it goes right back through the entire same process.
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In fact, what you have is the Groundhog Day.
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That what you have is a recapitulation,
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that you're having a description of increasing series of judgment,
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deepening judgment,
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and deepening offers of mercy,
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and deepening sense of the choice between the two different paths.
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And in a literary way, it sort of develops it,
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and then there's a pause, and then it develops it,
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and then there's a pause, and it develops it,
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and then it gets to the end.
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It gets to the end.
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In fact, most of the book of Revelation,
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from chapter six on almost to the end,
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is describing life between the crucifixion,
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resurrection of Jesus, and the second coming of Jesus.
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And so some of you might say,
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well, does that mean then, George,
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that what it's talking about with the horses and the riders and all that,
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okay, is it, are they demons?
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Are they humans?
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Are they demons?
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Are they humans?
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Are they, is it sort of something which is happening today?
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Is it something that's going to happen at the end of the day?
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What do you think?
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And my answer is yes.
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Yes.
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It's all of those things.
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It's something which is true of life today,
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and it's something which will,
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when the final end does come,
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will also see it far more clearly
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for those who are alive when Jesus finally comes back.
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But it describes life.
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It describes our experience.
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It describes what's going on in the world
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from the moment of the crucifixion,
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the resurrection of Jesus,
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and chapter five of Revelation
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describes the resurrection and ascension of Jesus
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and what he's like in heaven
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and what's going on between now and his return.
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But all the way through this,
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the lamb who was slain opens the seals.
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The lamb who was slain opens the seals.
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Some of you might say,
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okay, George, this is, okay, that's sort of interesting
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and maybe I hadn't thought of that before.
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And I'm a little bit relieved
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that you're not going to spend
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the rest of the book of Revelation
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saying things like
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that the first horse is the United States,
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the second horse is Iran
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and the Ayatollahs,
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and the third horse, which is black,
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is North Korea,
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and the fourth horse is Russia.
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Like I'm, you know, many of us,
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some of us are very disappointed,
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I'm not going to say that,
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and others are maybe very relieved.
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But what on earth does it mean?
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Okay, George,
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we sort of have a bit of a sense
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that to understand that it's the lamb
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who was slain opening the seals
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does mean that, in fact,
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repentance is always an option,
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that we can't take
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the governing story of our culture
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in terms of blind forces
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determining so much of what exists,
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and we can understand that, in fact,
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there's a chance of action,
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that there's always choices for human beings,
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that we can take action,
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that we can pray into things,
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that we can call people to repentance,
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that we can call the U.S. administration,
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the Canadian administration,
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we can call the Russians and Iranians
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and Israelis and the left
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and the right and the Republicans
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and the Democrats,
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we can call people to repentance,
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but what on earth is going on here?
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Well, let's look.
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Let's go back and read verse 1,
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let's go back to chapter 6,
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and let's look at the four horsemen
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of the apocalypse.
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Now, I watched when the lamb
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opened one of the seven seals,
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and I heard one of the four living creatures,
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sorry, just back up
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if you weren't here last week,
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chapter 5,
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God has a scroll in his right hand,
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and his palm is open,
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and there's a scroll line across it,
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and it's a scroll that's sealed
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on the outside with seven seals,
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and the lamb takes the scroll
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from the one on the throne,
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who's the father,
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and the implication is
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is that the scroll contains
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basically God's plan for the future,
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and the lamb who is slain
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takes the scroll
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and begins now to open the seals.
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So verse 1 of chapter 6,
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now I watched when the lamb opened
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one of the seven seals,
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and I heard one of the four living creatures
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say with a loud voice like thunder,
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come,
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and I looked,
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and behold,
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a white horse
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and its rider had a bow,
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and a crown was given to him,
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and he came out conquering
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and to conquer.
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Remember I said that,
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you know,
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are these creatures,
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what they aren't is angels.
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Actually,
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Rebecca,
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put up the next point,
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and we'll have that
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in the back of our mind
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as we read all of these,
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the four horsemen.
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The lamb who was slain
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in mercy
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allows and limits
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the four horsemen
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to do
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as they desire.
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The lamb who was slain
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in mercy
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allows and limits
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the four horsemen
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to do
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as they
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desire.
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So the first
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creature comes
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at the bidding
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ultimately of heaven,
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by the permission of heaven,
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and this
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represents
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the horsemen
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that is conquering
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and desires to conquer.
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Look at the next one.
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When he opened
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the second seal,
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verse 3,
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I heard the second living creature
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say,
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notice when he opened,
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the lamb opened
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the second seal,
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I heard the second living creature
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say,
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come.
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And out came another horse,
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bright red.
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Its rider was permitted
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to take peace
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from the earth
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so that people
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should slay one another
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and he was given
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a great sword.
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And this horse
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and its rider
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represents
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civil war,
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family fighting,
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church fighting,
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fighting between
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what used to be allies.
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Verse 5,
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when he opened
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the third seal,
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I heard the third
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living creature
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say,
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come.
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And I looked
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and behold
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a black horse
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and its rider
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had a pair
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of scales
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in his hand
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and I heard
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what seemed
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to be a voice
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in the midst
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of the four living creatures
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saying,
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a quart of wheat
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for a denarius
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and three quarts
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of barley
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for a denarius
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and do not harm
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the oil
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and the wine.
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Excuse me,
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this is a picture
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of famine.
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The ancient world
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at denarius
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was at an average
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working,
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take whatever
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you folks make
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in one day
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and that's,
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you know,
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if you are lucky
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you work five days
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and you live
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for seven days
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out of what you make
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for five days
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so in the ancient world
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a denarius
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was what a person
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made for one day
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and they'd have
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to work six
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or in some parts
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of the world
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every day of the week
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and so a quart
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of wheat
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is what one man,
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a working man
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would consume
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just by himself
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and it's describing
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a state of affairs
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where everything
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is ten times
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more expensive
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than it normally
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would be.
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It's describing
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a famine.
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It's describing
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a situation
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where the grain
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is so expensive
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that people
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can't work enough
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to buy enough
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to eat
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and it's describing
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famine
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in very powerful
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picture language.
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Verse seven,
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when you open
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the fourth seal
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I heard the voice
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of the fourth living
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creature say,
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come,
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and I looked
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and behold
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a pale horse.
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In the original language
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it's the color
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of death.
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it's the color
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that a corpse
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would be
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in a morgue
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and its rider's
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name was Death
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and Hades
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followed him
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and they were
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given authority
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over a fourth
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of the earth
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to kill
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with sword
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and with famine
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and with pestilence
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and by wild beasts
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of the earth.
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Now why is it
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that I say
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that the lamb
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who was slain
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in mercy
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allows and limits
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the four horsemen
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to do as they desire?
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Is God causing evil?
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No.
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If you look
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at the text
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what he does
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is he limits
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he allows
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and he limits.
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Actually what he sees
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what we see here
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in picture language
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is something
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we won't turn
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to it right now
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but later on
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if you want to look
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in Romans chapter one
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the second half
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of Romans chapter one
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you'll get
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a very
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very powerful
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picture of
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what God
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sometimes does
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and the picture
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is that there's
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this human
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propensity
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to do wrong
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things
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and it's like
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the tug
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it's like the current
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in the stream
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and the current
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in the stream
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is sort of
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always there
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but God
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in his grace
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and mercy
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is always
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restraining that
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and so the picture
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is it's almost
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as if there's
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a boat
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in the stream
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and the boat
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is tied up
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to a dock
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and the stream
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is constantly
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wanting to bring
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that boat
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and push the boat
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in a particular
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direction
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but the boat
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is tied up
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and sometimes
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what God does
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in judgment
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is he
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unties the boat
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in other words
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he's been
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restraining
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this evil
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but sometimes
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what happens
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is he takes away
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his power
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to restrain
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and he allows
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the natural course
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of what is
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desired to happen
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and it's
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one of the ways
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that sometimes
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it both reveals
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that God
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as an act
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of common grace
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and common mercy
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is restraining
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human evil
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but that sometimes
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still by mercy
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and grace
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he allows
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that
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to not be
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restrained
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or not restrained
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as much
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and we see
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evil revealed
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I see the evil
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in myself
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I see the evil
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around me
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the lamb
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who is slain
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in mercy
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allows and limits
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the four horsemen
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to do
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as they desire
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as they desire
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and that's
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what's being
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portrayed here
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now
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some of you
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might say
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this doesn't
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sound very much
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like mercy
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well
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it's
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just
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the beginning
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of the chapter
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it's the first
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four seals
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it's in the next
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two seals
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and the interlude
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that we see
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how it's connected
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to mercy
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so
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let's look
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and see
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how it is
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that it's connected
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to mercy
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how it is
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that judgment
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and God
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and all of that
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can be connected
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to mercy
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let's look at
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verse 9
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when he opened
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the fifth seal
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I saw
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under the altar
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the souls
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of those
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who had been
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slain
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for the word
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of God
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and for the witness
-
they had borne
-
just sort of
-
pause there
-
for a moment
-
notice now
-
that the fifth seal
-
isn't something
-
of Jesus
-
saying
-
okay
-
come out
-
horsemen
-
or those desires
-
to conquer
-
of conquering
-
and conquering
-
more and more
-
and more
-
and more
-
and more
-
and more
-
and more
-
it's not a matter
-
of it being
-
coming out
-
what we see
-
here now
-
is an act
-
of revelation
-
that John
-
is able
-
to see
-
something
-
and what
-
he sees
-
and John
-
is writing
-
this in the
-
mid-90s
-
and so
-
there have
-
been Christians
-
now for 60
-
years
-
in fact
-
many believe
-
that following
-
early church
-
writers
-
who wrote
-
somebody who
-
wrote just
-
shortly after
-
this
-
that this
-
was written
-
while there
-
was in fact
-
the first
-
sort of
-
major persecution
-
of Christians
-
in the Roman
-
Empire
-
and there
-
would have
-
in fact
-
been many
-
martyrs
-
as John
-
was writing
-
this
-
and John
-
himself
-
is writing
-
this
-
while he's
-
a political
-
exile
-
on the
-
island
-
of Patmos
-
and what
-
he sees
-
are those
-
who died
-
for Jesus
-
again verse 9
-
when he opened
-
the fifth seal
-
the lamb
-
opened the fifth
-
seal
-
I saw under
-
the altar
-
the souls
-
of those
-
who had
-
been slain
-
for the
-
word of
-
God
-
and for
-
the witness
-
that they
-
had borne
-
that's the
-
witness to
-
Jesus
-
witness to
-
the lamb
-
who was
-
slain
-
they cried
-
out with
-
a loud
-
voice
-
oh sovereign
-
Lord
-
holy and
-
true
-
how long
-
how long
-
how long
-
how long
-
oh sovereign
-
Lord
-
how long
-
before you
-
will judge
-
and avenge
-
our blood
-
on those
-
who dwell
-
on the
-
earth
-
then they
-
were each
-
given a
-
white robe
-
and told
-
to rest
-
a little
-
longer
-
here's the
-
frightening
-
thing
-
until the
-
number of
-
their fellow
-
servants
-
and their
-
brothers
-
and sisters
-
should be
-
complete
-
who are
-
to be
-
killed
-
as they
-
themselves
-
have been
-
please put up
-
the next
-
point
-
Rebecca
-
the saints
-
are in
-
God's
-
presence
-
and cry
-
out to
-
him
-
how long
-
how long
-
so the
-
first four
-
horsemen
-
the lamb
-
the lamb
-
I said
-
in his
-
mercy
-
allows
-
these
-
things
-
to happen
-
as they
-
desire
-
it's
-
in a sense
-
in a picture
-
form what
-
Romans 1
-
talks about
-
in terms of
-
what God
-
sometimes does
-
in human
-
affairs
-
releasing
-
or removing
-
his restraint
-
and allowing
-
freedom
-
allowing freedom
-
greater freedom
-
and the
-
greater freedom
-
is used
-
to evil
-
to pain
-
and suffering
-
to conquering
-
to causing
-
famine
-
to fighting
-
and to sword
-
the greater
-
freedom
-
is used
-
for these
-
things
-
and it
-
has all
-
sorts of
-
repercussions
-
on the
-
earth
-
people die
-
Christians die
-
non-Christians
-
die
-
all sorts
-
of people
-
die
-
and now
-
the fifth
-
seal is
-
opened
-
and John
-
sees
-
well
-
here's the
-
thing
-
you know
-
often in the
-
west
-
when we talk
-
about what
-
happened
-
in Nazi
-
Germany
-
to the
-
Jews
-
we call
-
it the
-
holocaust
-
and holocaust
-
means sacrifice
-
but the
-
more common
-
use of the
-
word
-
and in fact
-
the common
-
use of the
-
word in
-
Israel
-
is shoah
-
which means
-
calamity
-
see the
-
question is
-
this
-
as bad
-
things happen
-
to us
-
as we
-
suffer
-
is it
-
a sacrifice
-
or is it
-
a calamity
-
see if it's
-
a sacrifice
-
it means
-
it has
-
meaning
-
if it's
-
a shoah
-
a calamity
-
there is
-
no meaning
-
there is
-
no meaning
-
it's just
-
suffering
-
it's just
-
pain
-
and death
-
and no
-
meaning
-
and what
-
John sees
-
here
-
what God
-
shows
-
John
-
is that
-
as the
-
fifth seal
-
is open
-
some of
-
those
-
who've
-
been
-
affected
-
by the
-
fourth
-
seals
-
what do
-
they do
-
do they
-
say
-
I no
-
longer
-
believe
-
in
-
God
-
I
-
no
-
longer
-
trust
-
God
-
what he
-
sees
-
is he
-
sees
-
people
-
in
-
God's
-
presence
-
look at that
-
in verse
-
10
-
he sees
-
them
-
underneath
-
the altar
-
it's an
-
image of a
-
sacrifice
-
that their
-
death
-
has somehow
-
or another
-
been a
-
sacrifice
-
they cried
-
out with a
-
loud voice
-
10
-
oh
-
sovereign
-
Lord
-
they're
-
now in
-
God's
-
presence
-
they speak
-
to God
-
and on
-
one level
-
they do
-
call out
-
how long
-
if you
-
read the
-
Old Testament
-
time and
-
time and
-
time and
-
time again
-
in the
-
Psalms
-
and in
-
other
-
poetry
-
the Old
-
Testament
-
they cry
-
how long
-
oh
-
God
-
how long
-
if you
-
are in
-
the midst
-
of
-
suffering
-
right now
-
it is
-
completely
-
and utterly
-
biblical
-
for you
-
to say
-
how long
-
oh
-
Lord
-
how long
-
oh
-
Lord
-
must I
-
bear
-
this
-
how
-
long
-
oh
-
Lord
-
make it
-
clear to
-
me
-
what it
-
is that
-
you desire
-
me to
-
know
-
or do
-
or to
-
become
-
grant me
-
strength
-
to bear
-
up under
-
this
-
help me
-
to understand
-
father
-
the meaning
-
of what
-
it is
-
that I
-
am going
-
through
-
how long
-
is a
-
biblical
-
prayer
-
and that's
-
what the
-
saints pray
-
in the
-
presence of
-
God
-
to God
-
how long
-
and they
-
cry out
-
and in our
-
version
-
it uses
-
the word
-
look at
-
that
-
and how
-
long
-
before you
-
will judge
-
and avenge
-
our blood
-
on those
-
who dwell
-
on the
-
earth
-
and in
-
the original
-
languages
-
those words
-
judge
-
and avenge
-
it brings
-
out two
-
things
-
it definitely
-
brings out
-
the meaning
-
of punishment
-
but it also
-
has the idea
-
of vindication
-
in fact the
-
vindication is
-
seen here by
-
the fact that
-
God's response
-
to their cry
-
about how long
-
is that they were
-
given a white
-
robe
-
told to rest
-
told to rest
-
it's a sign
-
that they've
-
conquered
-
that in fact
-
their suffering
-
had some
-
meaning
-
I haven't read
-
the rest of
-
the book of
-
Revelation
-
but right now
-
it's a promise
-
that there is
-
meaning in
-
their suffering
-
these saints
-
who talk to
-
God
-
about it
-
and pour out
-
their heart
-
to him
-
and they are
-
not rebuked
-
he says
-
you have
-
conquered
-
and they ask
-
when will we
-
be vindicated
-
see this is
-
the mercy
-
we'll see this
-
more in a moment
-
when we look at
-
what happens
-
in the sixth
-
seal
-
but you see
-
if
-
God
-
both punishes
-
and vindicates
-
in other words
-
he reveals
-
to the world
-
those who have
-
a lust
-
of conquering
-
and to conquer
-
and those who
-
have a lust
-
for battle
-
and for triumph
-
and for winning
-
even if it means
-
that people starve
-
and that there are
-
losers
-
and that you can
-
have pestilence
-
as long as you
-
survive
-
and you can
-
thrive
-
and if
-
in such a world
-
the saints
-
are vindicated
-
and if it is
-
in fact the lamb
-
who was slain
-
who opens the
-
seal
-
there is the
-
possibility
-
for those
-
of us
-
who have
-
given our
-
lives to
-
evil
-
to say
-
one moment
-
this powerless
-
and weak
-
person
-
that I have
-
just killed
-
that I
-
have
-
caused
-
this
-
famine
-
to
-
God
-
vindicates
-
them
-
and in the
-
revelation
-
of their
-
vindication
-
there is
-
the invitation
-
to repent
-
and to be
-
on the side
-
of the lamb
-
that's why
-
these four
-
horsemen
-
where God
-
allows
-
what is
-
desired
-
whether it's
-
by human
-
beings
-
using their
-
evil for
-
freedom
-
or whether
-
it's
-
hostile
-
demonic
-
powers
-
or
-
some
-
other
-
reality
-
encaptured
-
by these
-
images
-
and God
-
with limits
-
allows it
-
to happen
-
that now
-
when some
-
of the
-
victims
-
who are
-
saints
-
cry out
-
and ask
-
for their
-
vindication
-
there is
-
in fact
-
an opportunity
-
for people
-
to say
-
oh my
-
God
-
what have
-
I done
-
can God
-
have mercy
-
this is
-
made even
-
more clear
-
as we look
-
at the
-
next seal
-
the sixth
-
seal
-
because in
-
fact what
-
is put
-
before us
-
is that
-
in the
-
presence of
-
such evil
-
that there
-
are two
-
responses
-
which are
-
ultimately
-
possible
-
that in
-
fact if
-
we have
-
the courage
-
to look
-
internally
-
into our
-
own lives
-
and see how
-
it is that
-
we respond
-
to things
-
that we
-
will understand
-
that even
-
ourselves
-
even those
-
of us
-
whose suffering
-
is not
-
nearly that
-
which is
-
described here
-
that have
-
not had
-
that same
-
type of
-
terrible
-
things happen
-
to them
-
but even
-
if the
-
suffering
-
is just
-
the fact
-
that we
-
have a
-
boss
-
that's
-
really mean
-
to us
-
or a
-
mom
-
who never
-
loved us
-
enough
-
or a
-
dad
-
who sort
-
of ignored
-
us
-
or somebody
-
who cut
-
us off
-
or it's
-
just anxiety
-
and it's
-
just stress
-
and if we
-
look at it
-
this is
-
very powerful
-
and profound
-
why is it
-
that we
-
choose one
-
way or
-
the other
-
look at
-
what it
-
says in
-
the sixth
-
seal
-
verse 12
-
when he
-
opened the
-
sixth seal
-
I looked
-
and behold
-
there was
-
a great
-
earthquake
-
and the
-
sun became
-
black as
-
sackcloth
-
the full
-
moon became
-
like blood
-
and the
-
stars of
-
the sky
-
fell to
-
the earth
-
as the
-
fig tree
-
sheds
-
its winter
-
fruit
-
when shaken
-
by a
-
gale
-
the sky
-
vanished
-
like a
-
scroll
-
that is
-
being rolled
-
up
-
and every
-
mountain
-
and island
-
were removed
-
from its
-
place
-
then the
-
kings of
-
the earth
-
and the
-
great ones
-
and the
-
generals
-
and the
-
rich
-
and the
-
powerful
-
and everyone
-
slave
-
and free
-
hid
-
themselves
-
in the
-
caves
-
and among
-
the rocks
-
of the
-
mountains
-
calling
-
to the
-
mountains
-
and rocks
-
fall
-
on us
-
hide us
-
from the
-
face
-
of him
-
who is
-
seated
-
on the
-
throne
-
and from
-
the
-
wrath
-
of the
-
lamb
-
for the
-
great day
-
of their
-
wrath
-
has come
-
and who
-
can
-
stand
-
revelation
-
6 is
-
centered
-
around
-
two
-
questions
-
how
-
long
-
or
-
who
-
can
-
stand
-
who
-
can
-
stand
-
imagine
-
that a
-
person
-
is coming
-
against
-
you
-
and they
-
have a
-
gun
-
and they
-
come to
-
you
-
and you
-
see that
-
you're in
-
danger
-
and you
-
have a
-
choice
-
you can
-
look to
-
the right
-
and there's
-
a person
-
you can
-
see their
-
face
-
you can
-
call out
-
to them
-
for help
-
you turn
-
to the
-
left
-
and there's
-
a rock
-
and when
-
they come
-
to you
-
with a
-
gun
-
you say
-
I'm not
-
going to
-
turn to
-
the person
-
who has
-
a face
-
that I
-
can call
-
about
-
for help
-
I'm
-
going to
-
call out
-
to the
-
rock
-
to help
-
me
-
rock
-
help
-
me
-
mountain
-
help
-
me
-
very
-
very
-
very
-
powerful
-
imagery
-
put up
-
the next
-
point
-
please
-
Rebecca
-
earth
-
dwellers
-
try to
-
hide
-
from God
-
while they
-
cry out
-
to idols
-
who
-
can
-
stand
-
earth
-
dwellers
-
on earth
-
is
-
a
-
world
-
of
-
earth
-
and
-
it
-
doesn't
-
mean
-
that
-
Christians
-
don't
-
dwell
-
on
-
earth
-
but
-
it
-
becomes
-
a
-
description
-
of
-
those
-
earth
-
dwellers
-
who
-
are
-
in
-
rebellion
-
against
-
God
-
in fact
-
it
-
starts
-
to
-
introduce
-
a
-
fundamental
-
understanding
-
of what
-
it means
-
to be a
-
Christian
-
a
-
Christian
-
is a
-
resident
-
alien
-
on
-
earth
-
a
-
Christian
-
is a
-
pilgrim
-
and we
-
know from
-
the Old
-
Testament
-
we know
-
from the
-
New
-
Testament
-
that we
-
are to
-
pray
-
for the
-
blessing
-
of God
-
upon the
-
city
-
but
-
ultimately
-
the city
-
of Ottawa
-
is not
-
my home
-
and the city
-
of Ottawa
-
my citizenship
-
is not
-
ultimately
-
a citizenship
-
in Canada
-
my ultimate
-
citizenship
-
is the
-
kingdom of
-
God
-
the kingdom
-
of the
-
Lamb
-
who was
-
slain
-
and my
-
true home
-
is where
-
the Lamb
-
reigns
-
and while
-
I live
-
here on
-
earth
-
not as
-
an
-
earth
-
dweller
-
but one
-
who
-
lives
-
on
-
earth
-
I
-
seek
-
the
-
good
-
of
-
the
-
city
-
the
-
earth
-
dwellers
-
try to
-
hide
-
from
-
God
-
while they
-
cry out
-
to idols
-
who can
-
stand
-
why
-
is it
-
when I
-
at a
-
very
-
simple
-
level
-
why
-
is it
-
that when
-
I
-
suffer
-
or I'm
-
in stress
-
why
-
is it
-
that I
-
would turn
-
to idols
-
why is it
-
that I
-
would turn
-
to alcohol
-
or to drugs
-
or to gambling
-
or to spending
-
money in a mall
-
or to anger
-
or to fantasies
-
or to pornography
-
why when I am
-
under mild
-
struggling of stress
-
would I turn
-
to one of these
-
why would I
-
turn to rocks
-
and mountains
-
why is it
-
that these
-
people
-
seeing
-
or sensing
-
or feeling
-
or realizing
-
the face
-
of God
-
try to think
-
that being
-
in a cave
-
could hide
-
from the face
-
of God
-
and that an
-
idol
-
a rock
-
or a mountain
-
would help
-
or deliver
-
them
-
will suffering
-
incline my
-
heart to God
-
or away
-
from it
-
many people
-
when we
-
suffer
-
we turn
-
away from
-
God
-
why is it
-
that we
-
turn away
-
from God
-
when we
-
suffer
-
is it
-
that when
-
we turn
-
away from
-
God
-
and are
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suffering
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that we
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stop
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suffering
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is it
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that when
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we
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turn away
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from God
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and suffering
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that all
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of a sudden
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our
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suffering
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has meaning
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is it
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that all
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of a sudden
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we only
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are victorious
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and we
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tower over
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things when
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we turn
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away from
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God
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like why
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is it
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that we
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do that
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why is
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it
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will
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suffering
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and climb my heart to God
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or away from Him?
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Why do I hide from God?
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Why, if God has a face,
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is it that I see or sense,
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why is it that I speak to a rock
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or an idol rather than God?
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How can a rock help me?
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How can an idol help me?
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Why do I say that I'll only become
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a Christ follower if God shows up?
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Why would I choose to repent
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and have suffering?
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I mean, why would I not,
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why would I refuse the chance
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to repent and have suffering?
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Now, somebody might be wondering,
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am I sane, George,
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are you sane,
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are you sort of like those people
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that make lots of,
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they make it in the news
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and they're just really,
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really, really, really,
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really, really, really,
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add a few more reallys,
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embarrassing,
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that when something bad happens,
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you get some radio preacher
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gets up and says,
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this is all because of the evil
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that's going on,
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and take your pick.
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It's because there's not
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enough Republicans,
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there's not enough Democrats,
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there's not enough rich people,
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there's not enough programs
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for the poor,
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you know, fill in the blank
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with your favorite evil,
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and that's why this judgment
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has happened.
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George, is that what you're saying?
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And that's not what the Bible's saying here.
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The Bible's not saying
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that God doesn't actually
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allow evil to happen.
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I'm not saying,
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in that sense,
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that radio preacher's
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not wrong.
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The radio preacher is,
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and I don't mean to offend,
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is hiding a profound arrogance
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to think that he or she
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knows exactly what it is
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that God's doing.
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And they probably don't.
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They probably don't.
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And it's arrogantly
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overstepping the boundaries
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to talk as if you know
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when you don't know.
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I mean,
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the fundamental lesson
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of the Bible
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is always to humble us,
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not to make us think
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we're smarter than other people
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and better than other people,
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but to humble us,
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to bring us to the point
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where we call out to God
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for mercy
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and say,
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how long?
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The other problem,
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and I know we,
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maybe I'm going over time,
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I apologize for it.
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The other thing about it,
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though,
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is that when people
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say things like that,
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we get the wrath of God
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all messed up
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and confused.
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Turn in your Bibles
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with me to Matthew
Matthew 26 chapter mention
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chapter 26
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in closing.
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Matthew chapter 26.
Matthew 26 chapter mention
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It's,
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if you have a Bible
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and you're not that familiar
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with it,
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there's the Old Testament,
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the New Testament,
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and Matthew is the first book
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in the New Testament.
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And turn in your Matthew
Matthew 26 chapter mention
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chapter 26
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to verse 36.
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And
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in the flow
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of the book
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of Matthew,
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Judas is off
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to betray Jesus.
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Jesus has just instituted
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the Last Supper
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with his friends.
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He's told them
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he's all going to die.
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He's going to be captured
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within 12 hours
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of the Last Supper.
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A few hours,
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in fact,
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less than 12 hours,
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he would be captured.
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He'll be falsely accused.
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He'll die
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a criminal's,
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a slave's death
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upon the cross.
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And he's told them
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all of this
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and they don't understand
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what's going on.
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They're all confused.
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And he goes to the
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Garden of Gethsemane
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and then Jesus went
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with them to a place
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called Gethsemane
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and he said to his disciples,
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sit here while I go
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over there and pray.
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And taking with them
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Peter and the two
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sons of Zebedee,
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he began to be
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sorrowful and troubled
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and he said to them,
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my soul is very sorrowful
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even to death.
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Remain here
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and watch with me.
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And going a little farther,
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he fell on his face
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and prayed saying,
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my father,
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if it be possible,
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let this cup
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pass from me.
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Nevertheless,
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not as I will,
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but as you will.
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Just put your finger
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there for a moment.
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If you go on
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and read the rest of it,
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you'll see that
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three times
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Jesus says this
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same prayer,
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my father,
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if it be possible,
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let this cup
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pass from me.
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Nevertheless,
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not as I will,
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but as you will.
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This happens
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just a few hours
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before the cross.
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And it's a very,
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very powerful image.
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It's a very common image
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in the ancient world,
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in Jewish scripture
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and in pagan,
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in the pagan world,
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for the cup,
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in this particular case,
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to be an image
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of God's judgment
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and wrath.
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And it's a very,
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very powerful image
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that Jesus,
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who understands
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that he's going to
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go to the cross
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and not that he's done
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anything wrong himself,
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but he will go
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to the cross
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and he will die
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upon the cross
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and his death
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upon the cross
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will be
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that he experiences
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the wrath,
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the judgment,
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proper to me,
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that he will drink
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the judgment of God,
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the proper anger
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of God at evil.
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My desire is to conquer
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and to be conquered.
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My desire is to put
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myself forth first
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even if it means
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that others starve
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and are in famine.
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My desire for conflict.
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My desire to triumph.
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All of those things
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that I have done
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that are wrong.
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All those things
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that I love
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about the four horsemen
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in my life
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that deserves
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the judgment of God.
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And those are things
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in my life
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and in yours.
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And that
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which properly deserves
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the judgment of God
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because the saints
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are crying out
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how long
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and I am implicated
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in that cry
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of how long.
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And Jesus goes
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to the cross
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and on the cross
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he takes upon himself
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that cry
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of how long
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that I deserve
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and he drinks
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the cup
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of God's wrath
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for me.
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and the amazing
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thing about this image
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is
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that
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you know
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there's lots of times
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in our life
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we go through
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really really really
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really hard times
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and we say to ourselves
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if I had known
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about how hard
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it was going to be
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in advance
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I would have never done it.
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We can always worry
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about the cross
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that Jesus says
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okay yeah
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I'm going to die
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for the sins of George
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he gets up on the cross
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and afterwards
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it's way way harder
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than he thought
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it was going to be.
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And here we see
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that God lets him
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know in advance
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how hard it's going to be.
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He tastes the cup
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and he still says
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I will go.
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And so it's not just
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that Jesus
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who is the Lamb of God
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who was slain for me
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it's not just
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that he takes upon himself
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that anger and judgment
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which I properly deserve
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and it's just something
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as if God has now
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just sort of
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that he now stands
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for merely in terms
-
of suffering
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for me
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in my place
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but also
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his act of obedience
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his willingness
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and love
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to actually
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after having tasted
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the cup
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to still
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take the cross
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both aspects
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of who Jesus is
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stands for me.
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The cry of the rich
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and the poor
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the generals
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and the powerful
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and the slave
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who turn to rocks
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and mountains
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and say
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who can stand?
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And a Christian
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the saints
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who are underneath
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the throne of God
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and are speaking
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in the presence
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of God
-
to God himself
-
their answer isn't
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well I've lived
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a completely
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and utterly
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blameless life
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and that's why
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I can stand.
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Their answer is
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to humbly say
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I can only stand
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because the Lamb
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of God
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took upon himself
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the wrath
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of God
-
that I deserved.
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Put the final point
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up please.
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Out of love
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for me
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the Lamb
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who was slain
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bore the wrath
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of God
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that I deserve.
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Please stand.
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Most of us today
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not all of us
-
are able to stand
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on our own strength.
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This Bible passage
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says that there will be
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a day when we have
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to stand before
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the throne of
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Almighty God
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and we will not
-
have the strength
-
and the strength
-
to stand.
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And the Holy Spirit
-
is convicting
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some of us
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maybe to turn
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to Jesus
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for the first time
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to understand
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what he's done
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for us on the cross
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and for others
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just to realize
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that my desire
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to conquer
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my desire
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to be first
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my desire
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for conflict
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my desire
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for anger
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my desire
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to hide myself
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from God
-
that's
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even though
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I'm a follower
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of Jesus
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that's become
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far too strong
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in me.
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I'm going to
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say a prayer
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in closing
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which
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if the Holy Spirit
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is convicting you
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to pray
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that I invite you
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to pray with me.
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I'll say it to you
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very quickly
-
and if it
-
suits what the Holy Spirit
-
is convicting
-
in your life
-
then I'll say it
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a second time
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slowly
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so that you
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can pray it
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with me.
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Dear God
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I try to hide
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from you
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I call out
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to idols
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to avoid you
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please forgive me
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please deliver me
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I thank you
-
that Jesus
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drank my cup
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of your judgment
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Jesus
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please live
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in me
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as Savior
-
and Lord
-
please pour
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out your Holy Spirit
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upon me
-
today and every day
-
until I stand
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in your presence
-
as your servant
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thank you
-
amen
-
the Holy Spirit
-
has been convicting you
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of the need
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like me
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to pray such a prayer
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for some
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it is the beginning
-
of your life
-
as a follower
-
of Jesus
-
for others
-
it is just a deepening
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I invite you
-
I'll say this prayer
-
slowly
-
and I invite you
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if the Holy Spirit
-
is convicting you
-
do not say no
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to the Holy Spirit's
-
conviction
-
do not say no
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to the Holy Spirit's
-
conviction
-
I'll say it
-
and I'll pause
-
and you can say it
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silently
-
you don't have to
-
say it out loud
-
it's just between
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you and God
-
dear God
-
I try to hide
-
from you
-
I call out
-
to idols
-
to avoid you
-
please forgive me
-
please deliver me
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I thank you
-
that Jesus
-
drank my cup
-
of your judgment
-
Jesus please live
-
in me
-
as Savior and Lord
-
please pour out
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your Holy Spirit
-
upon me today
-
and every day
-
until I stand
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in your presence
-
as your servant
-
thank you
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Amen
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Amen
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Tiago
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know
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I
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can
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pray
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las
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Guys
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let