Sermon
How Can a Good God send anyone to Hell?
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Welcome to the fourth in our big questions series.
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This is another really difficult one.
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Maybe many of you, maybe all of us have wrestled with this at some point.
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How can a good God judge anyone?
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How can a good God send anyone to hell?
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What I want us to do before thinking about that question
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is to hear one of the many places where Jesus teaches about heaven and hell.
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We're going to listen to a parable that we find in Luke chapter 16,
Luke 16 chapter mention
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beginning at verse 19.
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So this is Jesus teaching.
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There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen
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and lived in luxury every day.
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At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus,
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covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man's table.
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Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
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The time came when the beggar died
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and the angels carried him to Abraham's side.
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The rich man also died and was buried.
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In Hades, where he was in torment,
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he looked up and saw Abraham far away with Lazarus by his side.
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So he called to him,
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Father Abraham, have pity on me
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and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water
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and cool my tongue
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because I am in agony in this fire.
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But Abraham replied,
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Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things
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while Lazarus received bad things.
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But now he is comforted here and you are in agony.
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And besides all this,
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between us and you a great chasm has been set in place
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so that those who want to go from here to you cannot,
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nor can anyone cross over from there to us.
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He answered,
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Then I beg you, Father,
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send Lazarus to my family,
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for I have five brothers.
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Let him warn them
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so that they will not also come to this place of torment.
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Abraham replied,
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They have Moses and the prophets.
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Let them listen to them.
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No, Father Abraham, he said,
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but if someone from the dead goes to them,
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they will repent.
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He said to them,
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If they do not listen to Moses and the prophets,
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they will not be convinced,
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even if someone rises from the dead.
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I think this is most likely the hardest question
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that we have to tackle.
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As Christians,
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one of those questions that we face,
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perhaps most often the challenges we face most often,
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some of the reasons why it's so difficult.
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First of all,
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there's an emotional response that we have to it, isn't there?
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It's unpleasant to think about,
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to talk about,
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judgment and hell.
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And that can very easily trump the question,
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Is it morally right?
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We go with our gut
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and it's hard to think beyond that.
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Another challenge that presents itself
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is views of tolerance
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that we have in society.
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So many people
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reckon that we are free
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to decide our own moral values.
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So that the idea of objective values
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coming from God
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are very unpopular in some places.
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The idea of a God
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who would judge
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sincerely held beliefs
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is confusing to people.
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The idea of a final judgment,
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a judgment day
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doesn't make sense to many.
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It's one of these places
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where Christianity challenges
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our culture
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here on the topic of tolerance.
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I think from a Christian point of view,
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we fear being labelled as judgmental,
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that we might seem to be proud,
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arrogant in some way.
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Nobody wants to be considered judgmental
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and so we can easily shy away
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and struggle to know
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how to deal with the question.
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We also have the obstacle
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of popular views of God
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and in particular,
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that view that says,
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well, I believe in a God of love,
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a God without justice,
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a God who is loving.
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And so there's no room there for justice,
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certainly no room for hell.
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We need to understand, of course,
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that that is a modern invention.
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There are no religious texts.
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There are no religious cultures
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at any point in history
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that simply had a God of love full stop.
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That is in itself a leap of faith,
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but nevertheless,
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it does make it difficult
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when we come to the question
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of hell and judgment.
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But what I hope we can do
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is take an honest look
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at a hard subject
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to think about what the Bible teaches
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and especially to think about
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what Jesus has to say.
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But let's begin with the question,
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how could a loving God judge anyone?
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I want to follow three distinct lines
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of thought at this stage.
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First, to recognise
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that we are free moral agents.
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At issue is the question,
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is God right?
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Does he have the right
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to hold us morally responsible?
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Now, somebody like Sam Harris
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would argue no.
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He believes in a thing
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called scientific determinism
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and would argue that
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we cannot control
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our neurological processes
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and therefore we cannot
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be held responsible
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for our behaviours.
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Here's a quote from Sam Harris.
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The idea that we,
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as conscious beings,
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are deeply responsible
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for the character
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of our mental lives
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and subsequent behaviour
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is simply impossible
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to map onto reality.
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Our question
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is, does that make
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the best sense of reality?
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if we say that
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nobody is accountable
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for their actions,
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it will, in a moment,
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destroy our justice system.
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It will also
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stop us from praising
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what we see as heroic
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or noble on the other hand.
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So we cannot condemn
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someone as guilty
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because it's just
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their brain processes
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and sort of automatic
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responses and behaviour,
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nor can we praise
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great acts of courage
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or of self-sacrifice.
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To go down that route
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that says we're not
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free moral agents
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is to strip away
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our moral fabric,
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to strip away
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a significant part
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of our dignity
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as human beings
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and instinctively
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in our understanding
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that there is
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right and wrong,
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there's beauty
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and ugliness,
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we are people
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who recognise
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justice,
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we recognise
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that people
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are making choices
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and so it makes
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best sense
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of the evidence
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to say that we are
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free moral agents.
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The second
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line of thought
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at this stage
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is to recognise,
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although it seems
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initially
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a paradox
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that love
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and justice
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can coexist.
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For many
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the idea
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of a God
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who has
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wrath
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or anger
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against sin
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seems
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sub-God,
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it's beneath
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God.
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the question
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is posed,
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well can't we
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just remove
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judgement
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to have
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only
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love?
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But others
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have noticed
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a problem.
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The opposite
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of
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love
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is apathy
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or indifference.
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So a God
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who didn't
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care
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about
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evil
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a God
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who was
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not
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concerned
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with
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injustice
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would not
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be more
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loving,
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rather
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it would
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be a God
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not worthy
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of our
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worship.
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To make
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things personal
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for a moment,
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suppose you
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were to see
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a friend
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or a family
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member
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be mocked
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or abused.
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what feelings
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would we
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have?
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Well surely
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there would
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be a sense
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of anger
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at wrongdoing,
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there would
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be a desire
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for justice.
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And the
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more love
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that we
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have for
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a person,
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the greater
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that sense
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of justice
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would be.
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Think about
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how we
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respond
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to the
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horrible
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things we
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hear about
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in the
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news,
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whether
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that's
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trafficking
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or dictators
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or racism.
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We respond
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as moral
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agents.
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We feel
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that certain
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things are
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wrong and
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the more
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we love,
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the more
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we feel
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that.
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Now bearing
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in mind,
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as the
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Bible tells
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us,
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people are
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God's
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image
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bearers.
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If we
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feel
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and recognise
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and respond
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with a
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desire for
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justice,
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we cannot
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deny that
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to God.
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When he
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sees evil
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and injustice,
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we cannot
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expect him
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to just
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turn a
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blind eye
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to them.
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He is too
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loving for
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them.
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We need
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to recognise
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that our
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feelings
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of anger
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and injustice
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are just a
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drop in the
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ocean
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compared
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to God's.
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God is
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righteously
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angry
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against the
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horror of
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sin that
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is destroying
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and ripping
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apart the
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beauty and
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the peace
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of his
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creation.
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Before we
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move on,
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a few years
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ago I came
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across the
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writings of
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Miroslav
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Wolf.
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He is
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a theologian
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who grew
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up and
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lived through
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the Balkan
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wars of
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the 90s.
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And for
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Wolf,
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he understood
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that only
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a genuine
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belief in
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the final
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judgment of
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God was
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able to
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stop the
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cycle of
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killing and
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revenge.
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That it
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leaving
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vengeance in
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God's
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hands
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allowed
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people the
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freedom to
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forgive and
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to move
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on.
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So love
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and justice
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can co-exist.
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And the
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third line
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of thinking
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I want us
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to pursue
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for a couple
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of minutes
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is that
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the punishment
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that's described
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in the
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Bible does
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fit the
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crime.
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one
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significant
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struggle that
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we have
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in the
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question of
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how could
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God judge
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anyone
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is that
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we have
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made sin
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a small
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thing.
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It seems
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like no
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big deal.
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And coupled
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to that we
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have lost
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sight of
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the
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perfect
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holiness of
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God.
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That he
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is morally
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perfect,
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his glory
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is far
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above
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us.
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And when
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we lose
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sight of
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the seriousness
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of sin
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and the
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holiness of
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God,
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we imagine
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God can
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simply sweep
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sin under
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the rug.
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He can
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let everyone
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into
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heaven.
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We can
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follow the
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logic,
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well,
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God forgives
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everyone,
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that's his
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job.
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God is
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unchanging
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in his
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character.
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And the
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ugliness of
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sin,
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if God
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was simply
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to ignore
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it and
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sweep it
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under the
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rug,
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it would
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mean God
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being
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untrue to
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himself.
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God is
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unchanging
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in his
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character.
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He cannot
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act in
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ways that
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are unjust
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or unholy.
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And so
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for our
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whole
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understanding
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of this
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question,
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we need
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to recover
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the view
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that God
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is perfectly
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holy.
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And we
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need to
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reckon
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with sin
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being directed
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against this
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holy God.
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And it's no
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small thing,
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rather, as
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R.C.
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Sproul put it,
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it's an act
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of cosmic
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treason.
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Our sin
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is an
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infinite
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offence
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against the
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infinitely
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holy and
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glorious
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God,
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and as
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such,
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it deserves
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infinite
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punishment.
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A picture
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to help
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us.
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If you
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were to
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go behind
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my back
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and to
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plot
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against me
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for some
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reason,
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I would
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find that
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sad,
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obviously,
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but at the
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end of the
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day, it
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would be
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no
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big
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deal.
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But
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if we
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do the
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same to
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the
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Queen,
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well, that
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could become
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an act
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of treason.
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And that
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could land
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you in the
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Tower of
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London.
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We need
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to think
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about who
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we're dealing
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with, who
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we sin
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against.
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So where
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have we
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got to
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so far?
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We have
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considered that
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we are morally
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responsible for
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our actions
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and our
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decisions,
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and that
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includes
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how we
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respond to
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God and
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especially how
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we respond to
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Jesus as
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Saviour.
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We show
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in everyday
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life that
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to love
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is to
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care about
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justice.
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And we've
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seen that God
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is no different.
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In fact, God
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is the perfect
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example of
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that.
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And we've
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also considered
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that we're
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dealing with
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an absolutely
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holy and
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perfect God,
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also rejecting
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and rebelling
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against him
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is very
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serious.
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And those
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three realities,
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they underpin
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the teaching
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of the Bible,
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the teaching
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of Jesus
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on judgment,
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on heaven
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and hell.
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So let's
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turn there
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next.
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And what I
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want us to
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do is to
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think about
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heaven and
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hell in
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terms of
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relationship
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to Jesus.
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Now typically,
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heaven and
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hell, we
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think about
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them as
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places,
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and maybe
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those places,
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if we go to
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one or the
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other, it
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depends on
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our actions,
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but it's
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better, I
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think more
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helpful for
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us, to
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see that
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those places
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are tied up
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to our
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relationship
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to Jesus,
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the response
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we make
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to him.
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And as we
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begin to
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think about
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the subject,
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let's just
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remember Jesus
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regarded by
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many Christians
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and non-Christians
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as the most
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loving person
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who ever
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lived.
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This is the
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Jesus who
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wept over
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the city
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of Jerusalem
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knowing that
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they had
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chosen to
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reject him.
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This is the
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Jesus who
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prayed,
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Father,
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forgive them
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of his
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enemies who
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are nailing
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him to a
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cross.
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It's this
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Jesus who
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taught more
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about heaven
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and hell
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and the
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judgment of
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God than
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anybody else
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in the
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whole Bible.
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And so we
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need to
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recognise that
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its foundation
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as truth
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is not
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hateful.
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Rather,
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in the
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hands of
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Jesus,
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in the
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teaching of
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Jesus,
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there is a
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loving invitation
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to receive
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him and
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receive the
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joy of
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heaven and
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there is a
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loving warning
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to receive
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Jesus and
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avoid the
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danger and
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the punishment
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of hell.
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In the
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teaching of
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Jesus,
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in his
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parables,
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he used
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lots of
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different
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pictures,
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heaven is
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pictured as
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homecoming,
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it's pictured
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as wedding,
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it's pictured
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as a
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great feast.
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All of
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those pictures
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speaking to
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us of joy
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and life
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and celebration
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and all
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about
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relationship.
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And Jesus
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emphasised
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relationship to
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himself and
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to God as
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Father.
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And in
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those same
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parables and
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teachings,
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hell is the
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opposite,
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hell is the
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shut door,
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hell is the
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outer darkness,
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hell is the
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agony and
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the wailing.
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And the
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point that I
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want us to
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really to take
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away and to
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consider is
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what we're not
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doing is
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choosing
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heaven or
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hell
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fundamentally.
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what we're
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choosing today,
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what you and
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I are choosing
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today is
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am I
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accepting
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or rejecting
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Jesus?
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He offers me
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forgiveness,
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he offers me
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life,
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he offers me
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heaven,
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he offers to
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save me from
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hell,
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do I accept
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or do I
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reject him?
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And I want
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to see this in
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the parable
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that we read
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at the beginning,
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Luke chapter
Luke 16 chapter mention
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16,
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the story of
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the rich man
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and Lazarus
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that Jesus
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told.
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We see
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two extremes
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in their
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life as
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Jesus paints
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a picture
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for us.
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This rich man
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lives in
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extreme luxury
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whereas Lazarus
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lives in
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extreme poverty
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just outside
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his gate
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with dogs
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licking his
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sores and
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desperate to
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get even the
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crumbs from
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the rich man's
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table.
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But then the
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story moves
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on and we
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see two
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extremes
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in eternity.
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They both
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die and
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Lazarus
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finds himself
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in Abraham's
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bosom,
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a place of
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comfort and
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security.
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Abraham,
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the father of
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faith,
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Abraham who
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received covenant
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promises from
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God.
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Here is a
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picture of
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Lazarus
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enjoying
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blessing
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in God's
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place
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among God's
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people,
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knowing peace
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with God
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and joy
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of life
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made perfect
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but the
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rich man,
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the contrast
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is stark.
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We are told
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he is in
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torment.
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He says
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that he is
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in agony.
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We are told
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that he is
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in the
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fire.
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Now it's
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important to
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recognise
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that some
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of the
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imagery of
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hell is
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just that.
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It's a
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picture fire
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here.
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Here is a
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picture but
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we need to
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understand it's
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a picture that
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speaks to
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a certain
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reality.
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It represents
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the horror
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of what it
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means to
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receive
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punishment
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and to
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face
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eternal
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separation.
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In our
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story,
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reality sets
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in and
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we recognise
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that hell
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is real,
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hell is
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eternal,
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and there
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is this
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great
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chasm.
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So there
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is a
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point of
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no return,
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there is
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no crossing.
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And out
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of this
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misery and
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torment,
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the rich
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man responds
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by wanting
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to sound a
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warning to
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his family.
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and so the
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rich man asks
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Abraham in
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the parable
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to send
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Lazarus to
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his brothers
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and the
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response is
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they have
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the word
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of God
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that that
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should be
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enough for
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them.
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They have
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Moses and
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the prophets.
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the rich
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man comes
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back and
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says,
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no,
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if somebody
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comes and
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appears from
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the dead,
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then they'll
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repent,
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then they'll
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believe,
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and the
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climax of
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the story,
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if they do
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not listen to
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Moses and
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the prophets,
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if they don't
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listen to the
-
word of God,
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they will not
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be convinced
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even if
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someone rises
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from the
-
dead.
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in Jesus
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teaching.
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There are
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people who
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have the
-
Bible and
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don't listen
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to its
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warnings and
-
invitations.
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There's some
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who won't
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believe even
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in the face
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of resurrection.
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What's Jesus
-
driving at
-
here?
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Well, in
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one sense,
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here is another
-
way of Jesus
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to make the
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point that the
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whole Bible
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is about
-
him,
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about the
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fact that
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God in
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his grace
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has
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responded to
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human sin
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and misery
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by promising
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a saviour,
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that saviour
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who is God's
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own son,
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who comes
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out of sheer
-
mercy and
-
grace to be
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Messiah,
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saviour,
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to become
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the sacrifice
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for sin
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at the cross
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and the one
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who calls
-
us to
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faith in
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him and
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to repentance,
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to turning
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away from
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sin.
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It also
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is pointing
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forward to
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the reality
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that Jesus
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would conquer
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hell by
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his
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resurrection,
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that faith
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in Jesus
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is the
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only way
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to enjoy
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heaven and
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not hell,
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but sadly,
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some people
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won't believe
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even a
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risen saviour.
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The Bible
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teaches that
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we are made
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for friendship
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with God
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and sin is
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what separates
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and what
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severs that
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relationship.
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To lose
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God's
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presence
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is tragedy.
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To lose
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God's
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presence
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eternally
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is hell.
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So Jesus,
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in his life,
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in his teaching,
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he issues a
-
loving invitation,
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an offer that
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doesn't last
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forever,
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and he
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speaks of
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the reality
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of hell
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to give
-
urgency
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to the
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decision
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that we
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all have
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to make.
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Now,
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of course,
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many people
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in Jesus'
-
day,
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they rejected
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him,
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they chose
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another path,
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many people
-
today.
-
Well,
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I have
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better offers
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on the
-
table than
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the one
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to follow
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Jesus.
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I have
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more
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freedom
-
to enjoy
-
than what
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Jesus offers
-
and next
-
week we'll
-
think about
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the whole
-
question of
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freedom.
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I have
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time on
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my side,
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maybe at
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some other
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point I'll
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consider Jesus,
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but we need
-
to recognise
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what we do
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with his
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invitation
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determines
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our eternal
-
destiny.
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So moving
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from heaven
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and hell
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and our
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relationship
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to Jesus,
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I want us
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lastly to
-
think about
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heaven and
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hell and
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what it says
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about the
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love of
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Jesus.
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God
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and perhaps
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that in
-
itself seems
-
surprising to
-
put together.
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I want to
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turn our
-
usual question
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on its
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head so
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that instead
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of asking
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how could a
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good and
-
loving God
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send anyone
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to hell,
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I want to
-
ask how
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could a
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good and
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loving and
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just God
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allow anyone
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into heaven?
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Take just a
-
moment of
-
honest reflection
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and you know
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as well as I
-
do that we
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have guilty
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secrets,
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that we
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hide things
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from others.
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we're very
-
careful in
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the image
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that we
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project.
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We sometimes
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in our
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church use
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the
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Christianity
-
Explored
-
course to
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help people
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to investigate
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the Christian
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faith and it
-
has a
-
powerful
-
illustration
-
there where
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Rico Teiss,
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the presenter,
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asked the
-
question if
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there was a
-
big screen
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showing of
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all the
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thoughts
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running through
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our heads
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that was
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available for
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the world
-
to see.
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How would
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we feel
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about that?
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It sounds
-
awful doesn't
-
it?
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We would
-
feel so
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exposed and
-
ashamed.
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One of the
-
ways the
-
Bible functions
-
is it
-
functions as
-
a search
-
light.
-
The light
-
of its
-
perfection
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exposes our
-
failures.
-
It lays
-
bare the
-
darkness of
-
our thoughts
-
and words
-
and actions
-
and motives
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when we
-
really listen
-
to it but
-
yet remarkably
-
that search
-
light isn't
-
there to
-
condemn us
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as criminals
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it's intended
-
to find us
-
so that we
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might be
-
brought home
-
that against
-
the dark
-
backdrop
-
of our
-
sin
-
and the
-
consequence
-
of that
-
which is
-
separation
-
from God
-
and hell
-
the light
-
of Jesus
-
the love
-
of Jesus
-
shines
-
to bring
-
hope
-
and grace
-
and to
-
see this
-
we need to
-
see what
-
the cross
-
of Jesus
-
is all
-
about.
-
So the
-
night before
-
Jesus died
-
he was in
-
the garden
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of Gethsemane
-
and he
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prayed
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Father
-
if it is
-
possible
-
take this
-
cup
-
from me
-
yet not
-
my will
-
but yours
-
be done.
-
Now what
-
is this
-
cup
-
that he
-
was asking
-
to be
-
removed
-
if possible?
-
Well we
-
discover that
-
image in the
-
Old Testament
-
a picture of
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God's holy
-
anger against
-
sin being
-
poured out
-
for his
-
enemies to
-
drink.
-
That anger
-
of God
-
that would
-
come against
-
nations for
-
idolatry
-
for child
-
sacrifice
-
for exploiting
-
the poor
-
for rejection
-
of him
-
and his
-
word
-
and when
-
we look
-
at the
-
cross
-
we need
-
to see
-
Jesus
-
drinking
-
down
-
God's
-
righteous
-
anger
-
at sin
-
my sin
-
to see
-
that Jesus
-
in love
-
will face
-
hell
-
will cry
-
my God
-
my God
-
why have
-
you forsaken
-
me to
-
give me
-
heaven.
-
Now the
-
question then
-
arises well
-
how does this
-
not make
-
God and
-
the cross
-
unjust
-
if Jesus
-
is righteous
-
and innocent
-
as we believe
-
then how can
-
this be just
-
and we need
-
to see
-
that this
-
isn't
-
the father
-
punishing
-
the son
-
and the son
-
is passive
-
and receiving
-
the anger
-
of an
-
angry father
-
Jesus
-
we need to
-
understand
-
is God
-
he is not
-
a passive
-
victim
-
he is both
-
the judge
-
and the
-
condemned
-
on the cross
-
he gives
-
his life
-
as a sacrifice
-
but on the
-
last day
-
Jesus will
-
return as
-
judge
-
and so
-
the wrath
-
of God
-
against sin
-
is
-
the wrath
-
of Jesus
-
and there is
-
mystery there
-
but we affirm
-
it to be true
-
and we also
-
need to see
-
that Jesus
-
cannot be
-
separated
-
from his
-
people
-
he is the
-
head
-
and his
-
people
-
the church
-
is the
-
body
-
so he
-
represents
-
his people
-
and we are
-
united
-
to him
-
he becomes
-
one of us
-
that he might
-
bear the
-
punishment
-
and face
-
hell
-
for us
-
and united
-
with him
-
as it goes
-
for Jesus
-
so it
-
goes
-
for us
-
he dies
-
to sin
-
so that we
-
can die
-
to sin
-
and live
-
a righteous
-
life
-
with God
-
and for
-
God
-
so when we
-
look at the
-
cross we see
-
both a
-
demonstration
-
of God's
-
righteous
-
anger
-
at sin
-
as Jesus
-
the sin
-
bearer
-
faces it
-
but we
-
also see
-
the cross
-
as the
-
loving
-
response of
-
God
-
to rescue
-
sinners
-
and invite
-
us
-
to heaven
-
which is
-
the relationship
-
with God
-
and the love
-
that that
-
brings
-
so the choice
-
we all face
-
as we come
-
to a close
-
is this
-
knowing that
-
we have
-
all sins
-
that we have
-
failed to love
-
God and to
-
love others
-
perfectly
-
knowing that
-
the just
-
punishment
-
for that
-
is
-
separation
-
from God
-
and hell
-
for all
-
eternity
-
the choice
-
is simple
-
will I face
-
hell
-
by myself
-
or will I
-
trust Jesus
-
and his
-
love
-
and will I
-
hide myself
-
in him
-
the scandal
-
at the heart
-
of Christianity
-
is that
-
anyone who
-
believes
-
will be
-
saved
-
because of
-
God's
-
free grace
-
to us
-
in Jesus
-
and Jesus
-
loving
-
invitation
-
is open
-
to
-
all
-
so
-
philosopher
-
JP
-
Moreland
-
is right
-
when he
-
says
-
I believe
-
that hell
-
is morally
-
justifiable
-
but I don't
-
feel comfortable
-
about it
-
because it's
-
sad
-
the proper
-
thing to
-
do
-
is admit
-
that hell
-
is real
-
and allow
-
our feelings
-
of discomfort
-
to motivate
-
us to
-
action
-
whether that's
-
turning to
-
Jesus as
-
saviour
-
or sharing
-
the good
-
news of
-
Jesus with
-
urgency
-
to others
-
let's pray
-
briefly
-
Lord God
-
as we have
-
considered
-
one of the
-
hardest
-
topics
-
for us
-
to think
-
about
-
emotionally
-
we do
-
thank you
-
that we
-
can look
-
through the
-
Bible
-
and we
-
can
-
listen to
-
the teaching
-
of Jesus
-
thank you
-
that we see
-
in Jesus
-
someone who
-
is loving
-
and not
-
hateful
-
we see
-
in Jesus
-
someone who
-
would give
-
his own
-
life
-
who would
-
face
-
hell
-
so that
-
all who
-
would trust
-
in him
-
by faith
-
need not
-
face
-
judgment
-
we pray
-
that you
-
would help
-
us to
-
honestly
-
wrestle
-
with
-
the feelings
-
that we
-
have
-
but also
-
to think
-
about
-
what the
-
Bible
-
teaches
-
that you
-
would give
-
us that
-
sense of
-
urgency
-
that you
-
would help
-
us to see
-
our eternal
-
destiny
-
hinges on
-
how we
-
respond
-
to the
-
loving
-
invitation
-
and the
-
loving
-
warning
-
of Jesus
-
we
-
ask
-
that you
-
would help
-
us
-
and guide
-
us
-
amen
-
to
-
you