Sermon
Deborah, A Mother for Israel
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Transcript
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We're going to read from the Old Testament.
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This is the text from which our teaching is based tonight in Judges chapter 4.
Judges 4 chapter mention
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And the people of Israel again did what was evil in the sight of the Lord after Eahud
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died and the Lord sold them into the hand of Jabin, king of Canaan who reigned in Hazor.
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The commander of his army was Cicera who lived in Herosheth, Hagoim.
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And the people of Israel cried out to the Lord for help for he had 900 chariots of iron and
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he oppressed the people of Israel cruelly for 20 years.
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Now Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth was judging Israel at that time.
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She used to sit under the pole of Deborah between Ramah and Bethel in the hill country
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of Ephraim and the people of Israel came up to her for judgment.
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She sent and she summoned Barak, the son of Abinohim, from Kadesh, Naftali and said to
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him, I was not the Lord that God of Israel commanded you.
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Go gather your men at Mount Tabor, taking 10,000 from the people of Naftali and the
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people of Zebulun and I will draw out Cicera, the general of Jabin's army, to meet you by
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the river Kishon with his chariots and his troops and I will give him into your hand.
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Barak said to her, if you will go with me, I will go, but if you will not go with me,
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I will not go.
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And she said, I will surely go with you.
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Nevertheless, the road on which you are going will not lead to your glory, for the Lord will
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tell Cicera, for the Lord will sell Cicera into the hand of a woman.
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Then Deborah arose and went with Barak to Kadesh and Barak called out Zebulun and Naftali
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to Kadesh and 10,000 men went up at his heels and Deborah went up with him.
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Now Heber, the Kenite, had separated from the Kenites, the descendants of Hobab, the
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father-in-law of Moses, and had pitched his tent as far away as the oak in Za'anamneem,
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which is near Kadesh.
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When Cicero was told that Barak the son of Abinuem had gone up to Mount Tabor, Cicera
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called out all his chariots, 900 chariots of iron, and all the men who were with him,
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from Herosheth Hagoyim to the river Kishon.
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And Deborah said to Barak, up, for this is the day in which the Lord has given Cicera
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into your hand.
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Does not the Lord go out before you?
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So Barak went down from Mount Tabor with 10,000 men following him, and the Lord routed Cicera
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and all his chariots and all his army before Barak by the edge of the sword.
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And Cicera got down from his chariot and fled away on foot, and Barak pursued the chariots
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and the army to Herosheth Hagoyim, and all the army of Cicera fell by the edge of the
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sword, not a man was left.
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But Cicera fled away on foot to the tent of Jail, the wife of Heber, the Kenite, for
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there was peace between Javen, the king of Hazor, and the house of Heber, the Kenite.
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And Jail came out to meet Cicera and said to him, turn aside, my Lord, turn aside to
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me, don't be afraid.
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So he turned aside to her into the tent and she covered him with a rug.
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And he said to her, please give me a little water to drink for I'm thirsty.
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So she opened the skin of milk and she gave him a drink and she covered him.
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And he said to her, stand at the opening of the tent, and if any man comes and asks you,
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is anyone here?
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Say no.
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But Jail, the wife of Heber, took a tent peg and she took a hammer in her hand.
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Then she went softly to him and she drove the peg into his temple until it went down
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into the ground while he was lying fast asleep from weariness.
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So he died.
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And behold, as Barak was pursuing Cicera, Jail went out to meet him and said to him, come
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and I will show you the man whom you were seeking.
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So he went into her tent and there lay Cicera dead with the tent peg in his temple.
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So on that day, God subdued Jabin, the king of Canaan, before the people of Israel.
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And the hand of the people of Israel pressed harder and harder against Jabin the king of
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Canaan until they destroyed Jabin, king of Canaan.
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Thank you very much, Corey.
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If you came here tonight to hear a wholesome story, this is probably not it, because it's
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pretty violent.
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And it also teaches us something about a biblical woman.
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Sometimes you hear people telling women, you should be more violent.
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You're biblical.
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Now we learn that hammering a tent peg through someone's head is in the realms of possibilities
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here.
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And we need to remember that in the book of Judges, we are in a very different time from
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our modern times.
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So we should remind ourselves of some of the things we have said in the last few weeks.
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First of all, it's a difficult book from our perspective and it's hard to grasp sometimes.
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And often we will wonder whether the God that we read about in the book of Judges is the
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same God that we read about in the New Testament.
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And the answer is, of course, yes, but sometimes they can feel so different.
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But it's important to remember that the Bible doesn't sugarcoat what happened.
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It's not trying to make things sound nicer than what they actually were like.
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And it's important to bear in mind that we are in a very different point in God's redemptive
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history.
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So in the history of God saving his people, we are very...
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So we were quite a few years before Jesus was born and it was a very different time.
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In the book of Judges, we read that it was a time where everyone did as they pleased,
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really, as they thought was right in their own eyes.
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We should also remind ourselves that like Tertullian, the great theologian, the church
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father who lived a few hundred years after Jesus said, in the book of Judges and in the
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Old Testament, we find rehearsals of the incarnation of Jesus.
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So we see these judges, the deliverers of Israel and they are like Jesus in many ways.
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They are pointing forward to someone who will come and deliver Israel.
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Actually the word deliverer comes from the word Yeshua.
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Yahweh saves and that's where we get the name Jesus from as well.
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And in this cycle, in this Deborah cycle, the cycle in chapter four and chapter five of
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the book of Judges, we read again that the people did...
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They sinned.
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The people of Israel again did what was evil in the sight of the Lord after Eid died.
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So the cycle of idolatry again continues.
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The Israelites sinned, they violate the covenant they have made with God and they feel the consequences.
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And in this case, it says that the Lord sold them into the hand of Jabin, king of Canaan.
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So God allowed the king of Canaan to rule over the Israelites.
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And so far, whenever we have read about the beginning of a new cycle of idolatry, the
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falling away of God's people, we have read in the next sentence or so, we usually read,
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and the Lord raised up a new deliverer, but not in this chapter.
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We don't read this sentence in this chapter.
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Instead we are introduced to a woman called Deborah.
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By the way, we only read chapter four, but I will make references to chapter five because
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they are both giving an account of the same story in very different ways.
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Chapter four is prose, chapter five is poetry, but it gives us details that are important
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to understand what happened.
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So I will walk us through the text and point out some things and then I'll try to say
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what we can learn from the text and how we can apply it to our own lives.
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So who is Deborah?
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The text tells us that Deborah was a prophetess, so a female prophet, and she was the wife
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of some guy called Lapidoth, who is really not significant at all in this story.
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So maybe we should say Lapidoth was the husband of Deborah, because at least we know who Deborah
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is.
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We also see that Deborah was judging Israel at that time, and it's not exactly clear what
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that means.
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She wasn't an official judge from what we can see, because usually an official judge
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would have said at the city gates, that's where they did their business.
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But Deborah is not at the city gates.
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Deborah actually sits under a palm tree, which is called Deborah's tree, which is also unusual,
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because in that area in Israel, you don't really get palm trees.
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But probably there was this one palm tree where she sat and where people would go up
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to her and she would judge their cases and she would give them advice.
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She probably wasn't a professional judge then, but she was known as a prophetess, as one
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who received the word of God and who gave people the word of God.
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And in this story, we kind of see what that means.
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The people of Israel come to her and they complain, because they're being oppressed,
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they're being ruled cruelly.
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And so she summons Barak and she orders him to lead his army, the army of the Israelites,
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into war.
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So Deborah in this case is a bit like a mother, right?
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The children of Israel, they come and complain to her, and what do mothers do?
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They sort things out, right?
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So Deborah says to Barak, go and lead the people, because God has told you that you
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will win against the king of Canaan.
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And in this little verse that is describing Deborah, we get a hint where the chapter is
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going.
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The reason why Deborah is not in the city being a judge probably is because she's a
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woman.
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But we see that God uses her.
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She is determined to use her gifts for the good in whatever capacity she can.
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And we will see that God uses her even in the war.
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So often a question arises, the question comes up, why did God choose a woman in this chapter,
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in this case?
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And what a lot of commentators think is happening here is that there was a problem with man
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in Israel.
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So what's the problem?
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The problem is the man are not taking up their responsibilities.
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We will see that later on as well.
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The chapter is showing that idolatry, the idolatrous cycle has made man irresponsible
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people.
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And not completely, not every man is as bad as it gets.
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I mean, Barak is still doing good stuff, but I think the chapter is hinting at that.
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So instead we get a woman who is giving people the word of God, not in a public space like
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prophets because they wouldn't have been acceptable probably, but she is doing whatever
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she can using the gifts that God has given her.
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And God is using her for the people of Israel.
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And she not only receives God's word, she applies it, she does things, she obeys it.
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So she summons Barak and she asks him, has not the Lord, the God of Israel commanded
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you, go gather your man at Mount Habor, taking 10,000 from the people of Naftali and the
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people of Zebulun.
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And Barak doesn't say, you are the prophetess and I know you are giving me a message from
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God so therefore I will go and do it.
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No, he says, Deborah, I'll go if you go.
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No, that's the kind of man we have here.
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He's scared.
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He says, Deborah, I will go, but you have to go with me.
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Why is he saying that?
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Doesn't he have 10,000 men with him?
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I mean, that's quite a lot of people.
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That's what I thought when I read the story.
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But the problem is that as so often the instructions that God is giving him, they make no sense
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from a military point of view.
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If you Google Mount Habor, that's where they're supposed to go up with all the people.
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If you Google that, you will find a mountain that is like this, like a bowl that you turn
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upside down.
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It's like a child was trying to draw a mountain.
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That's what you get.
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I went down a rabbit hole when I was preparing the sermon of a Hebrew scholar saying that
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actually, Tabor means belly button.
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And I'm not sure what exactly he wanted to say.
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Maybe it's a negative of a belly button.
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That's what it looks like.
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I'm not sure.
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Anyways, in verse three we read that Cicera had 900 iron chariots.
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And you have to imagine iron chariot is basically like a tank in that time.
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Fast technology, really strong.
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You have an advantage on the battlefield.
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And if Barrack and the Israelites go up Mount Tabor, Mount Belly Button, as it were, then
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they could just surround them with their iron chariots.
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And what happens then?
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The Israelites have no way of escaping, right?
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So when the chariots come up, they have to fight to life and death.
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And the Israelites, they were oppressed for 20 years.
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They don't have the weapons.
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They don't have the food.
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They are not fed well.
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So they really don't have a good chance.
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So we can kind of see why Barrack is scared to go up Mount Tabor.
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In Judges chapter one, verse 19, we're giving a little hint at how powerful iron chariots
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were in that time.
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It says that Judah couldn't drive out the inhabitants of the plain land because they
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had chariots of iron.
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So it really makes a difference.
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So strategically, from a military point of view, it doesn't look great.
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But from a spiritual perspective, God had promised them victory.
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So Deborah responds to Barrack.
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And she says, okay, sure, I'll go with you.
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But because you asked me that, Cicera, you asked me that, Cicera will fall into the hand
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of a woman.
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In other words, Barrack will not get any glory, no honor for killing Cicera.
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But instead, a woman will get the glory.
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And at this point of the story, everyone thinks, well, we know who this woman could be, right?
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It's probably going to be Deborah who killed Cicera then, since she is so strong, she is
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so strong and she's the judge and prophetess.
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Maybe she's the one who delivers them.
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But that's actually not what's going to happen.
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We are being introduced to another character, J.O.
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So what's the point of this?
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What is the point I'm trying to make?
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Why is it such a bad thing that a woman gets the glory instead of a man?
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See the passage is trying to make a point that idolatry has made man weak.
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And it's trying to do that by saying the women are the active parties because the man are
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not taking up the responsibility given by God.
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We live in a time where feminism, where equality are really big topics.
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But it's really important to not portray our worldview on this passage because we would
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miss the point.
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Because what this is actually trying to say is that it's not saying that women can't
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have responsibility or power.
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It's just trying to make the point that there should have been other people taking up responsibility.
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In biblical times that would have been clear.
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A hundred years ago that would have been clear.
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Is this saying that women can't serve God?
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Is this saying that women can't take up responsibility or anything like that?
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No it's not.
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You see God used Deborah and God used J.O. in his sovereignty.
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Now we as a church and as a denomination, as a free church, we hold to a complementarian
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view of man and women, which means they're equal, but they have distinctive roles given
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by God.
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And we believe that the New Testament is giving us instructions as to how some offices and
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roles in the church and in public worship are reserved for man.
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Now we can't go into all the details of that.
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If you have questions then please ask Cory about that.
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And he's happy to talk you through that.
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But let me say this, dear women of this church, of this congregation, or if you're visiting
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today, you are very much and how do I say this?
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You're so appreciated in this church because without you the church would struggle quite
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a lot.
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And this story is making a case for women.
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It's making a case for women who love God, who walk with God, who love to read the Bible,
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who love to serve, to do exactly that, to be used by God, to be used in his ministry,
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to pour themselves into the ministry of God and let him use you.
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So with respect to the New Testament instructions.
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Now having said all this, this story is also showing that man has a responsibility, that
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we need to take God seriously, that we need to take his word seriously.
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In this very instance, Deborah gets that.
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Baruch doesn't get that so much.
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That's why Deborah commands Baruch, not once but twice.
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Because she gets that it's God who will bring deliverance from the enemies.
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It's not their strategies, it's not their effectiveness, their weapons, their technology,
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but it is actually God.
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That's why she says to Baruch, does not the Lord go out before you?
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And then the story continues and kind of you prepare for a long account of the battle and
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what happens.
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But it's just in a couple of sentences that the Bible tells us that Baruch and the man,
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they go down the mountain and they defeat the enemy.
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They kill every single person.
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And only one person manages to flee, which is Cicera.
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And you're kind of left wondering, how did that happen?
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And that's a good point to turn to chapter five because in chapter five we get a song
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in which Deborah sings about everything that happened.
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So chapter five includes more details.
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Chapter five says, the earth trembled and the heavens dropped.
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Yes, the clouds dropped water.
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And that explains how the Israelites won, right?
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Because remember, they had chariots of iron with them.
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So you remember Mount Tabor, the round kind of hill and they surround the hill with their
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chariots of iron.
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Now it starts raining really heavily and you want to go up there with your chariots of iron.
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What happens?
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The horses light, the chariots, they fall over.
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The people are in chaos.
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Nobody knows where they're supposed to go, what's happening.
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You can really, you can almost feel the confusion and the chaos that is there.
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Maybe tanks would have been better after all because they could have maybe made the way
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up, but not the chariots of iron.
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We can only imagine what it was like, you know, all the enemies trying to get up there
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and suddenly it starts raining and thundering and storming and they can't make it.
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So all that Barak and the Israelites had to do was run down and sweep away the enemy,
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kill them.
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There's a really cool detail, well I think it's a really cool detail in this text and
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that's Barak's name.
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The name Barak means lightning bolt.
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Now God is making this thunder storm and Barak, aka the lightning bolt, is running through
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it down the hill, striking the enemy.
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If Psalm 20 had been written at that time, the words would have been really fitting.
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Psalm 20 says, some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of
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the Lord our God.
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They collapse and fall, but we rise and stand upright.
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See, God does not care about human strength.
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He doesn't care about advanced technology.
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In His sovereignty, He can do whatever He likes.
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Judges 5 verse 20 even says that the stars were fighting for Israel.
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In other words, God's providence goes as far as making the stars align in the right way.
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When the Lord is on your side, you have nothing to fear.
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Yet it's easier said than done, right?
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We are not in the times of judges.
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We are New Testament believers.
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We know what happens with Jesus and the cross, and we know about our identity.
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We know that God is on our side.
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We know that in Jesus we have the victory.
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We know that nothing can separate us from the love of God.
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We know that we are loved.
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We know that we are chosen and redeemed.
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But sometimes even a small comment of someone can make all that crumble.
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Do you really believe that?
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This passage encourages you to believe in the promises of the living God and to obey them,
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to do what He asks you to do.
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Though we may seem weak sometimes, as a church, we have the living God on our side.
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Let's see how the story ends, King Cicera runs away without his chariot of iron, and
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he ends up in Jail's tent.
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And Jail is not an Israelite.
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She is the wife of Heber the Kenite.
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And Heber the Kenite had peace with Jabin the king of Hazor.
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And Jabin is Cicera's boss.
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No, it's a lot of names and quite confusing, I know.
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Anyways, Cicera thinks that Jail is his friend.
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So he feels kind of safe, right?
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And Jail says, come into my tent, you've got nothing to fear about.
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I'll take care of you.
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I'll hide you.
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So Jail is a bit like a double agent in that instance.
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She's a bit like a female James Bond almost.
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She comforts him, and she gives him milk and puts a rug over him.
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And as he sleeps, exhausted, she takes a tent pack and drives it through his head, which
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is quite a wild story.
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And we wouldn't expect that in the Bible sometimes, you know.
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But the Bible, as we said, is pretty raw.
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It doesn't sugarcoat things.
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It's a remarkable story.
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We get two really strong women who do the will of God, and together they deliver Israel
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from their oppressors.
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And sometimes people say, but Jail, was she really that good?
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I mean, she kind of acted in a pretty horrible way, right?
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What do I mean?
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The thing is that she betrayed her husband because she's breaking the peace her husband
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had with Jabin.
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He's lying and actively deceiving Cicera that he doesn't have to be afraid.
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And then she murders him by hammering a peg through probably, so commentators say, through
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his mouth and throw it into the ground, which is pretty horrible.
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And if you believe the traditional Jewish interpretation and actually the interpretation
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that a lot of scholars have as well, she might have even used her femininity to sexually
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seduce Cicera here.
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So if she was here among us, we would probably say that wasn't a very good way to bring these
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things about, right?
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Now the Bible says something different.
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The Bible in the next chapter says this, most blessed of women be Jail, the wife of Hebrew,
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the key knight of 10 dwelling women, most blessed.
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That's quite different to our reaction maybe.
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It says further in verse 25, he asked water and she gave him milk.
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She brought him curds in a nobles bowl.
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She sent her hand to the tent peg and her right hand to the workman's mallet.
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She struck Cicera, she crushed his head.
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She shattered and pierced his temple.
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She crushed his head.
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And the Bible commends her for that.
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And again, we have to stress that this is a different time and a different place in the
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Bible in the history of God, which means the history of God saving his people.
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And it's also worth mentioning that Jail wasn't an Israelite, right?
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Because maybe she didn't even know about all the laws.
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But what she did know, and this is the important part, what she did know was that Yahweh, the
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God of the Israelites, is the living God.
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And she made sure she was on the right side of things.
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God's enemies will be punished according to their sins is what judges then says in Judges
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5.31.
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It says, so may all your enemies perish, O Lord.
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But your friends be like the sun as he rises in his might.
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Jail made sure that she's a friend of God.
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And chapter 5 verse 30, it also hints to the fact that Cicera was the kind of person who
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would take Israelite girls as part of his treasure and that he and the soldiers would
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take them as slaves.
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He wasn't a good man.
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He was cruel.
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He was harsh.
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He took whatever he wanted, not just their foods, not just their treasures, but also their
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daughters.
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So he was oppressing the people of Israel.
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Now, I think that there is something more going on in this passage, that there is something
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symbolic about Jail killing the oppressor of Israel.
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Because in the very beginning of the Bible, there was already an oppressor of the people
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of God.
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In the garden, in Genesis 1 to 3, we read about that, in the garden, the serpent tempts
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Adam and Eve, and he causes them to fall into sin.
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And as a consequence, God curses the serpent and he prophesies to someone the seed of the
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woman who crushes the serpent's head.
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And throughout the Bible, we get accounts of that again and again.
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One of the more famous ones is David and Goliath, David crushing the big Goliath.
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And here in this story, we get a woman who symbolizes also the seed of the woman as prophesized
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in Genesis 3.15.
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And this woman, Jail, she crushes the head of the one who symbolizes the enemy, who
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symbolizes the serpent.
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So what we get in here is, in the realness and in the brutality and the messiness, which
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reflects the times of the judges, we get a picture of the gospel.
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The seemingly strong oppressor is executed by a person that nobody would have expected,
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which means that in the story of judges, we have a pattern of strange people and strange
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places and strange solutions.
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And overall, in this cycle, we see that again and again.
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So let me give you a list of things that I think this story is trying to teach us.
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So firstly, I think that this cycle shows, first and foremost, that God's sovereign will
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and providence is there, is active.
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He delivers his people.
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He has a plan and he will use whoever he needs to use to achieve his purposes.
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So in this story, we have a team effort through which the enemy is brought down.
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And it's all orchestrated from above.
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Through God's word, through his bringing about of the storm and even changing the nature,
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and through him leading Cicera into Jail's tent, who then deceives and kills him.
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Secondly, in the books of Hebrews in chapter 11, we have something that we sometimes refer
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to as the Hall of Faith, where the author of Hebrews is talking about examples in the
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Old Testament who were examples of faith.
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And Barrick's name is actually mentioned in the Hall of Faith.
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So what God asked of Barrick wasn't easy.
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And yes, he did doubt and he was weak.
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But God showed his strength through his weakness.
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So Barrick is an example of faith and he is an example of what it means to trust in God's
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word.
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In the Bible, God uses unusual people with unusual methods.
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In a time in which everyone did, as was right in their own eyes, he used Jail, who was from
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a different people, to kill Cicera.
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And what we can learn from Jail is not to go and do likewise, please don't.
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But what we can learn from her is that we should find ourselves on the right side.
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We should be on the side of God, of the living God.
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We should be friends with Him.
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And we should do everything we can to fight the enemy.
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We ought to fight the idols in our hearts that keep us oppressed and that keep us slaves
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of sin.
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Fourthly, we don't fight with weapons like the people of God in the book of Judges.
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One writer says this, the New Testament equivalent of the conquest of Canaan is the conquest
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of the whole earth by and for Christ.
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And the way we do that is by fighting with weapons that God has given us in the New Testament.
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We are warriors of love.
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In Ephesians 6, Paul has given us the whole armor of God that we sang about in our first
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song this evening, where Paul says, put on the whole armor of God that you may be able
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to stand against the schemes of the devil, for we do not wrestle against flesh and blood,
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but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers of this present
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darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
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The fight has changed.
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It's not against flesh and blood anymore.
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And let me encourage you to read Ephesians 6, maybe throughout the week, and be encouraged
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by that.
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Let me just mention the different pieces of the armor that Paul is giving us there.
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He's talking about the belt of truth, the breastplate of righteousness, shoes of readiness
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given by the gospel of peace, a shield of faith, a helmet of salvation, and the sword
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of the Spirit, which is the word of God.
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One thing has stayed the same as in the Old Testament, and that is that the word of God
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tells us that our enemy has already been defeated.
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Through Jesus' death and resurrection, the curse of sin has been broken.
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Salvation is offered freely to anyone who believes in Him.
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If you think that you're just a strange person in an unusual place and you have nothing to
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offer to God, then this story is telling the opposite and leaves us without any excuses.
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Deborah, Barak, and Giles show us that God uses those who are willing to serve.
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He uses those who seem to be weak in faith, and He uses those who seem to be outsiders,
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so we really don't get an excuse here.
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Let us pray.
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Holy Father, we thank You for the story of Deborah and Barak and Giles and the story of
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Judges.
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And we do ask You that You would help us to understand the story better, that You would
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help us to fight as warriors of love, as warriors of Your kingdom, and to use the weapons and
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the armor that You have given us.
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Father, we give thanks for Your Word, and we ask that You would encourage us in that
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and help us to apply all these truths to our hearts.
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And we give thanks for Your Son, Jesus Christ, who went to the cross and who achieved everything
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that we couldn't have achieved out of our own strength.
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In Jesus' name, we pray.
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Amen.