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  1. Hi, my name is George Sinclair. I'm the lead pastor of Church of the Messiah.

  2. It is wonderful that you would like to check out some of the sermons done by Church of the Messiah,

  3. either by myself or some of the others. Listen, just a couple of things. First of all,

  4. would you pray for us that we will open God's Word well to His glory and for the good of people like

  5. yourself? The second thing is, if you aren't connected to a church and if you are a Christian,

  6. we really, I would really like to encourage you to find a good local church where they believe the

  7. Bible, they preach the gospel, and if you have some trouble finding that, send us an email. We

  8. will do what we can to help connect you with a good local church wherever you are. And if you're

  9. a non-Christian checking us out, we're really, really, really glad you're doing that. Don't

  10. hesitate to send us questions. It helps me actually to know, as I'm preaching, how to deal with the

  11. types of things that you're really struggling with. So God bless.

  12. Father, I ask that you would, Father, we're dealing with a passage of Scripture that many Christians

  13. in Canada, many of us maybe feel very uncomfortable with. And so Father, we ask that the Holy Spirit

  14. would come with gentle but deep power to bring us to Jesus. And as your Holy Spirit brings us to

  15. Jesus, that you, Father, will bring us to the words that Jesus speaks to us this morning.

  16. And Father, help us to listen to him. And we ask that the Holy Spirit would bring the words of Jesus

  17. deep into who we are so that it will be his word that forms us. And we ask this in the name of Jesus,

  18. your Son and our Savior. Amen. Please be seated.

  19. So let's just be frank about a couple of things. You've heard the text that I'm preaching through

  20. the Gospel of Mark. And we just had a text read which talks about hell. And for Canadians,

  21. hell is a repellent topic. In fact, actually, I think if our non-Christian friends, maybe it's one of you

  22. who are here this morning or maybe one of you who are here online and you're just sort of curious and

  23. you've been either watching this sermon downstream or you're participating in the service through

  24. online, you'd probably say to me, George, no one is frightened by hell in Canada. Like in Canada,

  25. no one at all is frightened by hell. And the fact is, George, that we will only think less of you

  26. if you mention hell. And we will only think less of Jesus and we will only think less of Christianity.

  27. If you persist and talk as if you actually believe it, we will mock you.

  28. And in fact, George, you might as well just accept the fact that in Canada, it is an unwinnable,

  29. unwinnable, I don't know if that's a word, it's an unwinnable thing to hold. Like you'll never convince us.

  30. It's just ridiculous. And if you really believe it, we'll just think there's something evil about you.

  31. So that I think, I don't know, I think that's sort of a fair way to describe how much of our culture

  32. would think about this topic. In fact, if you think about it, you know, if you watch a Netflix

  33. or some other comedy special, if the person came bounding out all chipper and then said,

  34. I'm going to talk about hell, everybody would laugh, right? That's what they would do. They would just laugh.

  35. That's the normal North American response to this. And this attitude seeps into us as Christians and

  36. makes us very uncomfortable with this doctrine. So what are we going to do? We're going to be

  37. looking at verses 30 to 50. But just before we go up to verse 30, let's just look once again at the

  38. words at the end, the words about hell. And if once again, if Claire could put it up,

  39. but if you have your Bibles, it's page 58. And we begin at verse 43. And here's what Jesus says.

  40. And here's part of the problem about the text. It's not a problem from one point of view,

  41. but it is a problem from another point of view. The problem with the text is that this is the same

  42. just type of language that Jesus is going to use about, you know, feeding the poor and caring for

  43. the sick and loving people. And it's the same language. It's not as if all of a sudden,

  44. you know how sometimes when you're watching movies or something and all of a sudden it moves to a

  45. slightly different color or the color template or filter and maybe becomes a little bit fuzzy. And

  46. you know, it's like a dream sequence or a memory or something like that. In the original language,

  47. if you're reading along, it's the same type of language as he talks about the other things that

  48. we like. And here's what he says in verse 43, before we go back to verse 30 and look at it,

  49. it goes like this. And if your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life

  50. crippled than with two hands to go to hell, to the unquenchable fire. And if your foot causes you to sin,

  51. cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame than with two feet to be thrown into hell.

  52. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with

  53. one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into hell. And here he quotes from Isaiah verse 48,

  54. where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched.

  55. So a couple of things about this. Jesus is saying that hell is real.

  56. He's obviously using a little bit of symbolic language, but he's using some symbolic language

  57. to talk about something which is real. The other thing about it is that Jesus is talking about hell

  58. as if it will not be empty. And thirdly, he's talking about it as if human beings listening to him

  59. and all human beings are in danger of ending up in hell. That's what he's saying. He says hell three times.

  60. And not only does he say it three times, he says it in a memorable way. At the eight o'clock service,

  61. there's a person who comes to the eight o'clock service who's involved in theater.

  62. And as I said to the two people who are involved in the theater, I mean, like live theater, and I said,

  63. this is the type of line that if you had it in a play, it would be memorable because of the rhythm,

  64. you know, of the hand, the foot, the eye. And they said, that's exactly right. A line like this

  65. is more memorable because of the type of rhythm and the other imagery that goes along with it.

  66. So in other words, Jesus says it three times. He says it in a memorable way.

  67. And he says it in the same type of language as he talks about the types of things that we would like.

  68. In fact, actually, if you think about it for a second, what we'd like is life and the kingdom of God.

  69. And he's not saying that if you cut off your hand, so you enter light. I mean, he's talking about people

  70. who are alive. He's talking about how there's basically two destinations.

  71. And even to say that is something which we Canadians, we balk at.

  72. There's only two ultimate endings. And one ending is described with hell, hell, hell,

  73. unquenchable fire, and always nibbling worms.

  74. And the other end, the end we like, is described as life and life and the kingdom of God.

  75. And those are the ends.

  76. So what do we do?

  77. Well,

  78. generally speaking,

  79. you look at context to see if that's going to help.

  80. And the context is profoundly, deeply, satisfyingly helpful,

  81. but not in the way

  82. that we Canadians want it to be helpful.

  83. But we need to get over our being Canadians

  84. and listen to how what the context that Jesus puts it in is, in fact,

  85. deeply and profoundly helpful.

  86. So let's go back to verse 30,

  87. the beginning of our text for this week,

  88. and that's found on page 56.

  89. And if later on,

  90. you decide to sort of catch up on the Gospel of Mark

  91. to see where we've come to in this ancient eyewitness biography of Jesus,

  92. written while eyewitnesses were still alive,

  93. that what we see that's just a little bit before this,

  94. Jesus, for the first time,

  95. prophesied or predicted

  96. that he was going to be crucified

  97. and die and rise again.

  98. And Peter responds to that by saying,

  99. no way, Jose,

  100. no way, Jesus,

  101. that's never going to happen to you.

  102. Jesus rebukes Peter

  103. and says,

  104. you're not thinking in terms of how I'm thinking,

  105. you're thinking in terms of how the devil thinks.

  106. And then Jesus gives his teaching

  107. about how people who want to follow Jesus,

  108. they need to pick up their cross and follow him.

  109. And then the very next thing,

  110. which is just what we looked at last week,

  111. is about a week after that,

  112. Jesus takes Peter, James, and John up to a high mountain,

  113. and he's transfigured.

  114. Before them, in a sense,

  115. it's a vision of heaven.

  116. And the new heaven and the new earth,

  117. Moses and Elijah are there.

  118. And then Jesus goes down the mountain,

  119. and he comes down the mountain,

  120. and he goes right into the normal type of mess

  121. that we as human beings sort of have to live with,

  122. of sickness and demonic oppression

  123. and arguments and religion and all of that.

  124. And the disciples aren't able to cast the demon

  125. out of the young boy, but Jesus does.

  126. And that's what's just happened.

  127. And now the story continues,

  128. and here's how it goes in verse 30.

  129. They went on from there.

  130. That's Jesus and the 12.

  131. They went on from there and passed through Galilee.

  132. And Jesus did not want anyone to know,

  133. for he was teaching his disciples, saying to them,

  134. the Son of Man is going to be delivered

  135. into the hands of men, and they will kill him.

  136. And when he is killed, after three days he will rise.

  137. But they did not understand the saying

  138. and were afraid to ask him.

  139. Now we're going to camp in that just a little bit

  140. because it's a bit longer than we will for the other things

  141. because it's exceptionally, you know, important.

  142. Just this past week I was watching and listening to something on YouTube,

  143. an interview by a fellow by the name of Sean McDowell

  144. with a person by the name of Andrew Clavin.

  145. And it was a very interesting interview.

  146. Andrew Clavin grew up as a secular Jew in an artistic family,

  147. and at a very early age he recognized,

  148. and others recognized, that he was very creative.

  149. And in fact, he had a very long career in that artistic community,

  150. that sort of upper type of artistic community.

  151. As he says in the interview, he lived in either London, England,

  152. New York, or Los Angeles.

  153. And he's a successful thriller writer.

  154. He got into screenwriting, was very successful at that.

  155. And the circles he traveled in were these circles

  156. of very creative people, Hollywood people, literary people,

  157. and he was very at home in that.

  158. He was raised as a secular Jew.

  159. But through a series of circumstances,

  160. and that's partially what the interview is all about,

  161. at the age of 50, he became a Christian.

  162. At the age of 50, he became a Christian.

  163. And the interview, one of the things which is really interesting

  164. in the interview is he describes how his father,

  165. who was completely a non-practicing Jewish man,

  166. when Andrew was 15,

  167. he'd started to develop a huge love of the stories of Arthur,

  168. you know, the Knights of the Round Table and all of that.

  169. He developed a huge interest in it.

  170. And so he's reading all of these old things about it,

  171. and he realizes there's all this Christian symbolism in it.

  172. So he thinks to himself,

  173. well, I don't know anything at all about Christian symbolism.

  174. Like, I know zero about it.

  175. And so he decided he'd find a New Testament.

  176. And he did, and he brought it home,

  177. and he's lying in his bed at night reading the Gospel of Luke,

  178. because he'd somehow figured out that Luke had the Christmas story,

  179. and he thought he'd start with that.

  180. And as he's reading the Gospel of Luke,

  181. not because he's even remotely interested in Christianity,

  182. he just really wants to try to understand the Arthurian legends better.

  183. His dad comes into the room,

  184. sees him reading the New Testament,

  185. and his dad says to him,

  186. how dare you bring that book into our house?

  187. That is the book of the enemy.

  188. It is the book of the people who've killed

  189. millions of Jewish people in the Holocaust.

  190. It is the book of people who have been prejudiced

  191. against our people for 2,000 years.

  192. How dare you bring that book into our house?

  193. And it is the book of the enemy.

  194. So one of the questions that came to Andrew was,

  195. like, how did you overcome that to become a Christian?

  196. Like, how did you get your mind around that?

  197. And Andrew said,

  198. that actually was one of the harder barriers for me to become a Christian.

  199. The long history of people saying that it was the Jews that killed Jesus

  200. and that we are a hateful group.

  201. But then as I'm thinking about it,

  202. and he's been reading the New Testament

  203. over and over and over again

  204. as part of his religious quest,

  205. which will culminate in him

  206. as he puts it,

  207. one day he's driving in Los Angeles

  208. and it's as if God speaks to him.

  209. But it's not God.

  210. He says, just this has overwhelming sense

  211. that he's become a Christian.

  212. He needs to get baptized.

  213. I need to get baptized.

  214. And he said,

  215. I came to realize that Christians who said

  216. that it's Jesus who killed,

  217. that Jews killed Jesus were wrong.

  218. that ultimately it is human beings,

  219. the human race that killed Jesus.

  220. Now, in the interview,

  221. he didn't say anything about Bible verses,

  222. but the verse that we have before us

  223. is actually exactly what Andrew Clavin just said.

  224. If you look at the key verse,

  225. the prophecy in verse 31,

  226. Jesus was teaching his disciples,

  227. saying to them,

  228. the son of man is going to be delivered

  229. into the hands of men

  230. and they will kill him.

  231. And when he is killed,

  232. after three days, he will rise.

  233. In the first prophecy,

  234. he says it's going to be the Jewish leaders

  235. that he's handed to.

  236. But in this text,

  237. it's very specifically all human beings.

  238. He's being handed over to human beings

  239. and human beings will kill him.

  240. That's exactly what this text is talking about.

  241. In fact, it adds something to it that,

  242. I mean, maybe Andrew would know this.

  243. It wasn't part of the interview,

  244. is that the word delivered

  245. is a very, very good word.

  246. Notice that the son of man

  247. is going to be delivered.

  248. It's a very, very good word.

  249. But what you don't get in English

  250. is that in Greek,

  251. there's a tense called the divine passive.

  252. It's a tense which is used

  253. when it's God who does something.

  254. And that's the tense for the word delivered.

  255. So what Jesus is saying here

  256. is the son of man

  257. is going to be delivered by God the Father

  258. into the hands of human beings,

  259. that's you and me,

  260. and we will kill him.

  261. Some of you,

  262. I think most of you,

  263. maybe all of you know the distinction

  264. between got to and get to.

  265. The way to read this,

  266. you see,

  267. if you think about it for a second,

  268. if Jesus knows that this is what,

  269. that he's going to be crucified,

  270. he could have done things to get out of it.

  271. Or he could have this prophecy

  272. that he's delivered hanging over him

  273. a little bit like a curse.

  274. Sort of like those of you

  275. who know a little bit about,

  276. you know, Greek mythology,

  277. I think it's the Oedipus

  278. who's cursed to kill his father

  279. or something.

  280. I think it's the Oedipus curse

  281. that there's a prophecy

  282. that he'll kill his father

  283. and he tries to avoid it

  284. and he ends up killing his father anyway.

  285. And it could read it

  286. as if that's what Jesus is saying here,

  287. as if it's some type of a fate

  288. which has been put on him

  289. that he doesn't want.

  290. But the way to understand it

  291. is not that I've got to do this,

  292. but that I get to do this.

  293. I get to do this.

  294. I get to be the means

  295. by which human beings

  296. who are destined to hell

  297. can be delivered from that fate

  298. into something they don't deserve,

  299. into something we don't deserve,

  300. which is the kingdom of God

  301. and which is life.

  302. The other thing here

  303. which is sort of very

  304. important for us to understand

  305. about the text

  306. is why on earth is it

  307. that in the year 2022,

  308. in post-modern,

  309. post-truth Ottawa,

  310. there's even a couple of us

  311. who are reading

  312. this ancient eyewitness biography

  313. of Jesus.

  314. Now, this, by the way,

  315. is something that, you know,

  316. that generally skeptics

  317. don't really actually

  318. give their mind

  319. much attention to.

  320. But the fact is

  321. the only reason

  322. that we're reading this

  323. is because the person of Jesus

  324. who really did live

  325. really did make such predictions.

  326. In fact, including,

  327. if you look at all

  328. of the eyewitness biographies,

  329. details of his death,

  330. which he could not possibly

  331. have managed himself,

  332. namely that the Romans

  333. would decide to crucify him.

  334. And he really did die on the cross.

  335. And he really did,

  336. on the third day,

  337. rise from the dead

  338. and appear to many people

  339. who recognized him

  340. and saw that he wasn't

  341. a person

  342. who had just barely,

  343. by the skin of his teeth,

  344. survived a harrowing experience

  345. of flogging

  346. and the nailing of the wrists

  347. and the nailing of the feet

  348. and the dehydration

  349. and the spear piercing.

  350. And somehow or another

  351. was able to hobble along,

  352. having had all of that happen,

  353. is the evidence

  354. of all of the different people

  355. and sometimes pairs,

  356. sometimes groups,

  357. sometimes individuals,

  358. sometimes large groups,

  359. is that he was alive.

  360. And that's the only explanation

  361. as to why it is

  362. that we are still reading this.

  363. Do you know,

  364. this is a true fact.

  365. There is only one religion

  366. that was started

  367. in the time of the Roman Empire

  368. that still exists.

  369. It's Christianity.

  370. Only religion.

  371. But of all the ones

  372. that started

  373. during the time

  374. of the Roman Empire.

  375. And, you know,

  376. I know that there's

  377. no technical, logical,

  378. that it doesn't sort of

  379. logically or rationally follow,

  380. but gosh, it follows.

  381. You see, if Jesus says,

  382. I've come to die on a cross,

  383. I get to do this,

  384. and I'm going to die on the cross,

  385. and I'm going to rise from the dead,

  386. that, at a technically literal,

  387. like, logic level,

  388. doesn't vindicate

  389. that he is who he said he is,

  390. and he's going to accomplish

  391. what he says he's going to accomplish.

  392. But if that doesn't vindicate him,

  393. what on earth will?

  394. I mean, that clearly vindicates him.

  395. Good grief.

  396. Defeating death?

  397. Riding from the dead?

  398. If that doesn't vindicate his words?

  399. Well, I just, I, it's,

  400. if we think about it seriously,

  401. that has to vindicate him.

  402. And not just vindicate

  403. that he wasn't a bad man

  404. who died because he was a bad person,

  405. because that wouldn't be the case

  406. of defeating death

  407. and defeating sin,

  408. but it vindicates him

  409. that he is, in fact, God,

  410. the Son of God,

  411. that he is, in fact,

  412. the Lamb of God

  413. that takes away the sin of the world,

  414. that that vindicates

  415. that that is who he is.

  416. And it's after he makes this prediction,

  417. and it's only because

  418. this prediction came true

  419. that Mark writes

  420. his eyewitness biography,

  421. which will end, spoiler alert,

  422. with Jesus, the tomb being empty,

  423. and Jesus being alive.

  424. That also means

  425. that we need to listen

  426. to his warnings about hell

  427. very seriously.

  428. Now, I'm not going to spend

  429. that much time

  430. on the next bits.

  431. They're all very, very important.

  432. I'll make a few comments about them,

  433. but it's very interesting

  434. about how the text goes

  435. and moves towards this part

  436. of the teaching about hell.

  437. And it's especially hard

  438. because it's especially interesting

  439. because it brings home,

  440. psychologically,

  441. a better understanding

  442. of what hell is.

  443. Look at what happens

  444. very next, verse 33.

  445. And they,

  446. oh, by the way,

  447. verse 32,

  448. but they didn't understand

  449. the saying

  450. and were afraid to ask him.

  451. See, even that little tiny bit

  452. is very significant.

  453. Why are you afraid

  454. to ask a question often?

  455. Well, you don't want

  456. to look stupid.

  457. Well, why don't you want

  458. to look stupid?

  459. Because you're proud.

  460. Because you're proud.

  461. Because I'm proud.

  462. Verse 33,

  463. verse 33,

  464. and they came to Capernaum,

  465. and when he was in the house,

  466. he asked them,

  467. what were you discussing

  468. on the way?

  469. But they kept silent,

  470. verse, page 58, verse 34,

  471. for on the way,

  472. they had argued with one another

  473. about who was the greatest.

  474. And he sat down

  475. and called the 12,

  476. and he said to them,

  477. he said,

  478. if anyone would,

  479. if anyone,

  480. if anyone would be first,

  481. he must be last

  482. and servant of all.

  483. And he took a child

  484. and put him in the midst of them,

  485. and taking him in his arms,

  486. he said to them,

  487. whoever receives

  488. one such child

  489. in my name receives me,

  490. and whoever receives me

  491. receives not me,

  492. but him who sent me.

  493. In other words,

  494. God the Father.

  495. This other language

  496. that God the Father

  497. has sent Jesus to die.

  498. Now, here's another thing.

  499. You know,

  500. it's very interesting.

  501. I was reading

  502. a 19th century commentary

  503. as part of my preparation

  504. for this.

  505. And one of the things

  506. a person in the 19th century,

  507. you know,

  508. it's just so interesting

  509. when you read something

  510. which is like 150

  511. some odd years old,

  512. and all the disciples

  513. were all lower working class.

  514. And the person

  515. writing the commentary

  516. wouldn't have been

  517. from a lower working class

  518. background.

  519. He was from a bit

  520. of a better background.

  521. And he just sort of

  522. makes the comment,

  523. imagine lower working class

  524. people thinking

  525. they're the greatest.

  526. But the fact of the matter is,

  527. how uncomfortable

  528. would every one of us be

  529. if God could reveal

  530. our fantasies?

  531. How many of us think

  532. we're the greatest?

  533. It might be in Bible study,

  534. it might be singing,

  535. it might be cooking,

  536. it might be holiness,

  537. it might be prayer.

  538. How many of us

  539. wouldn't be,

  540. well,

  541. how many of us

  542. if God was just to reveal

  543. some fantasy

  544. about how we thought

  545. we were the greatest

  546. and all of a sudden

  547. he put it on the screen

  548. and it was obvious

  549. that it came from me

  550. or it came from one of you,

  551. every single one of us,

  552. God would find something.

  553. And gosh,

  554. if it was me,

  555. two things would happen.

  556. I would get so red

  557. and there wouldn't be

  558. a crack small enough

  559. for me to crime into.

  560. Some of us might not be

  561. as obvious about our

  562. our personal fantasies

  563. about greatness,

  564. but then the second illustration

  565. is very, very telling.

  566. Verse 38,

  567. John said to him,

  568. that's John,

  569. the disciple,

  570. teacher,

  571. we saw someone,

  572. verse 38,

  573. we saw someone casting out

  574. demons in your name

  575. and we tried to stop him

  576. because he was not following us.

  577. But Jesus said,

  578. do not stop him

  579. for no one

  580. who does a mighty work,

  581. and by the way,

  582. mighty work is literal,

  583. but it's a little bit misleading.

  584. It's referring to a miracle.

  585. So no one who does a miracle

  586. in my name

  587. will be able soon afterward

  588. to speak evil of me.

  589. For the one who is not against us

  590. is for us.

  591. For truly I say to you,

  592. whoever gives a cup of water

  593. to drink because you belong to Christ

  594. will by no means lose his reward.

  595. Now, here's the thing

  596. which is not as obvious.

  597. It's there in English,

  598. but it's not as obvious in English

  599. as it is in the original language,

  600. is if we were to try

  601. to actually make it more accurate,

  602. but it would look weird,

  603. in verse 38,

  604. because he was not following us.

  605. That's the issue.

  606. And not necessarily Jesus.

  607. It's us 12.

  608. He's not with us 12

  609. because we're the greatest.

  610. And it's so funny

  611. because if you go back,

  612. the story,

  613. which is just part

  614. of the same chapter,

  615. is the fact that

  616. they weren't able

  617. to cast a demon out.

  618. And so here's a guy

  619. doing what they couldn't do.

  620. But they still think

  621. they're greater than him.

  622. And so they want him

  623. to stop because of us.

  624. Well, isn't that very true as well?

  625. I mean, right now,

  626. by the way,

  627. and this is not,

  628. if John Charest had won,

  629. the John Charest people

  630. would all be feeling very good.

  631. If the Lesley and Lewis had won,

  632. they'd all been feeling really good.

  633. But right now,

  634. it's the Pierre-Paul-Lavere people

  635. because it's us.

  636. We're the ones.

  637. Right?

  638. It's us because

  639. we're the anti-charismatics.

  640. It's us because

  641. we are the charismatics.

  642. It's us because

  643. we have the big church.

  644. It's us because

  645. we have the small church.

  646. It's us because

  647. just you fill in the blank.

  648. And there's a type of,

  649. in a sense of a group pride.

  650. And you see the thing,

  651. I mean, here it is.

  652. What, you know,

  653. Jesus has just described

  654. the very nature.

  655. If what Jesus has said is true,

  656. then the very, very heart of God

  657. is not about him

  658. having his glory

  659. so completely and utterly

  660. and obviously seen

  661. that we just cower.

  662. but he wants us

  663. to see his glory

  664. and he wants us

  665. to see his beauty

  666. but the way he most

  667. fully reveals himself

  668. is by,

  669. is by God,

  670. the Son of God

  671. taking him to himself

  672. human nature

  673. and coming and walking

  674. amongst us

  675. so that he would die

  676. on a cross.

  677. Like love.

  678. Taking the lowest place.

  679. the opposite of pride.

  680. And here we've had

  681. the two proud

  682. to ask a question.

  683. They think they're the greatest.

  684. They think we're the greatest.

  685. And it's in this context

  686. that he's going to say

  687. a couple of things

  688. about hell.

  689. And notice first verse 42.

  690. Whoever causes

  691. one of these little ones

  692. who believe in me

  693. to sin,

  694. it would be better for him

  695. if a great millstone

  696. were hung around his neck

  697. and he were thrown

  698. into the sea.

  699. Now,

  700. little ones just mean

  701. simple Christians.

  702. In fact,

  703. it's another way

  704. to describe a Christian.

  705. We're little ones.

  706. I'm a little one.

  707. And so are you.

  708. You're not the greatest.

  709. I am a little one.

  710. And it's a very, very,

  711. I think,

  712. a very, very significant

  713. placement.

  714. And it's not as if,

  715. because in fact it is,

  716. God looks down the ages

  717. and says,

  718. you know, George,

  719. well,

  720. you're not as clever

  721. as you think you are.

  722. But,

  723. you don't have to be

  724. very clever

  725. to try to do,

  726. well,

  727. it could be this,

  728. it could be that,

  729. it could be this,

  730. it could be that,

  731. and hell is just

  732. a symbolic thing

  733. and it's a metaphor

  734. and,

  735. by the way,

  736. let me tell you

  737. about the history

  738. of Gehenna

  739. and the valley

  740. and do all of that

  741. and what I end up doing

  742. is I end up,

  743. by the end of it,

  744. thinking,

  745. oh, well,

  746. good grief,

  747. there's sin,

  748. hell doesn't even exist

  749. or if it does exist,

  750. it doesn't really matter.

  751. It's just a metaphor,

  752. you know,

  753. for some type

  754. of psychological distress

  755. and if I could,

  756. I could do that

  757. and if I was to teach that

  758. and then it was

  759. to encourage people

  760. like you

  761. or people watching

  762. to say,

  763. well,

  764. I don't have to even

  765. think about hell.

  766. Jesus is saying,

  767. George,

  768. if you do something

  769. like that,

  770. it would be better

  771. for you

  772. if a millstone

  773. was hung around

  774. your neck

  775. and you were thrown

  776. into the sea.

  777. If the Sunday school

  778. teachers do that,

  779. it would be better

  780. if the men's group,

  781. the women's ministry,

  782. if they were to do that,

  783. if the small group leaders

  784. were to do that,

  785. it would be better

  786. if God,

  787. if you just took

  788. a millstone around you

  789. and throw you

  790. into the depths

  791. of the sea,

  792. that would be better

  793. for you.

  794. And if your hand

  795. causes you,

  796. verse 43,

  797. to sin,

  798. cut it off.

  799. It is better for you

  800. to enter life crippled

  801. than with two hands

  802. to go to hell,

  803. to the unquenchable fire.

  804. And if your foot

  805. causes you to sin,

  806. cut it off.

  807. It is better for you

  808. to enter life lame

  809. than with two feet

  810. to be thrown into hell.

  811. And if your eye

  812. causes you to sin,

  813. tear it out.

  814. It is better for you

  815. to enter the kingdom

  816. of God with one eye

  817. than with two eyes

  818. to be thrown into hell,

  819. where their worm

  820. does not die

  821. and the fire

  822. is not quenched.

  823. I believe Jesus

  824. rose from the dead.

  825. I believe that he

  826. is the Savior

  827. and the Lord.

  828. And because he has told me,

  829. I believe that hell exists.

  830. If you look at it,

  831. it's sort of there

  832. in English.

  833. It's also more obvious

  834. in the original language,

  835. but it's there

  836. in the English.

  837. If you look at verse 43 again,

  838. it says at the end

  839. of verse 43,

  840. it is better for you

  841. to enter life crippled

  842. than with two hands

  843. to go to hell.

  844. The other two images,

  845. verse 46,

  846. thrown into hell

  847. and verse 47,

  848. thrown into hell.

  849. I mean, sorry,

  850. verse 45 and verse 47,

  851. thrown into hell.

  852. this is,

  853. this beautifully captures

  854. the fact that

  855. there's sort of two things

  856. that happen.

  857. The first thing is that I,

  858. the person going to hell

  859. willingly goes.

  860. They choose to go.

  861. And at the same time,

  862. it's also understood

  863. as something that God

  864. sends you to,

  865. without any contradiction

  866. between the two.

  867. You see,

  868. one of the things,

  869. and it takes longer

  870. than I have,

  871. I'm just going to throw

  872. this out,

  873. it's,

  874. the doctrine of hell

  875. is not a bug

  876. that needs to be fixed

  877. in Christianity.

  878. It's a design feature.

  879. No,

  880. no religion,

  881. no spirituality,

  882. no philosophy

  883. or theology,

  884. greater values,

  885. human freedom

  886. and autonomy

  887. than the Christian faith

  888. and hell

  889. is the testimony

  890. to that.

  891. God doesn't force you.

  892. Demons force you.

  893. God,

  894. the true and living God,

  895. the triune God

  896. doesn't force you.

  897. You choose to go.

  898. You want to go.

  899. God at the end,

  900. the end,

  901. the end of the end

  902. which is the beginning

  903. of the true beginning

  904. says,

  905. child,

  906. you don't like me

  907. calling you child,

  908. you'd rather that I

  909. called you God.

  910. you find my existence,

  911. my existence only makes you angry.

  912. My love only makes you cringe.

  913. my truth only makes you furious.

  914. My beauty only makes you gag.

  915. And you would rather have your own way

  916. and your own conceits

  917. and your own little rule

  918. than be in my presence.

  919. you would choose anything other

  920. than to be in my presence,

  921. healed and unveiled.

  922. And that is what you choose

  923. right till the end

  924. and that is where you will go.

  925. And I'm,

  926. obviously,

  927. it's a metaphor

  928. and I can't say

  929. that I'm making

  930. a doctrinal statement here.

  931. But if you were locked up

  932. for all eternity

  933. with your pride

  934. and your anger

  935. and your envy

  936. and your greed

  937. and your lust

  938. and your resentments

  939. and not only locked up

  940. by yourself

  941. but with others,

  942. it would be your very own

  943. anger

  944. and fantasies

  945. and hatreds

  946. and rivalries

  947. and lusts

  948. that would be the fire

  949. that would consume you

  950. and the worms

  951. that would eat you.

  952. and what the gospel

  953. is all about

  954. is not that George

  955. is so good

  956. that he's going

  957. to go to heaven

  958. but that God

  959. in his grace

  960. has provided a means

  961. by which

  962. the end of the end

  963. of the end of George

  964. and the beginning

  965. of the beginning

  966. of the beginning

  967. of life

  968. after death

  969. for George

  970. is not hell

  971. but that when I'm

  972. in a sense

  973. stop running

  974. from Christ

  975. and allow him

  976. to catch me

  977. and take me

  978. he takes me

  979. and transfers me

  980. from a fate

  981. of hell

  982. and he transfers me

  983. to be his child

  984. by adoption

  985. and grace

  986. and clothe me

  987. in such a way

  988. that I will be fit

  989. for eternity

  990. and this is not

  991. of my doing

  992. it's not of my work

  993. I can only

  994. allow Christ

  995. to do

  996. that

  997. for me

  998. and in me

  999. he died

  1000. the death

  1001. that I deserved

  1002. he

  1003. entered into

  1004. all of the

  1005. there is of death

  1006. whatever that means

  1007. which I could not do

  1008. but to remain there

  1009. and be in hell

  1010. he offers me

  1011. his perfect obedience

  1012. to the father

  1013. to clothe me

  1014. with his righteousness

  1015. which I could

  1016. I could never have

  1017. and he transfers me

  1018. from

  1019. the kingdom of darkness

  1020. that ends in death

  1021. and hell

  1022. into the kingdom

  1023. of light

  1024. and life

  1025. and truth

  1026. and goodness

  1027. and beauty

  1028. which ends

  1029. in the kingdom of God

  1030. and life after life

  1031. after life

  1032. after life

  1033. and it is all

  1034. his doing

  1035. not mine

  1036. I receive it

  1037. as an act of grace

  1038. it says we're

  1039. gripped with this

  1040. that we begin

  1041. to understand

  1042. anew

  1043. the wonder

  1044. of the gospel

  1045. when the bible

  1046. talks about

  1047. how you were lost

  1048. and you have to be saved

  1049. that's what it means

  1050. you were lost

  1051. and you need to be

  1052. transferred by Christ

  1053. and what he's done

  1054. on the cross

  1055. you need to be taken

  1056. from there

  1057. into his kingdom

  1058. that's what being saved

  1059. means

  1060. that's what Christ

  1061. has done for us

  1062. and it's only

  1063. as these truths

  1064. grip us

  1065. that we can be

  1066. really just

  1067. you know

  1068. one of the things

  1069. about it

  1070. you know

  1071. one of the things

  1072. that Andrew Clavin

  1073. said

  1074. that one of the things

  1075. that kept him

  1076. from the Christian faith

  1077. is and I hope

  1078. I pronounce this right

  1079. he called it

  1080. the banal optimism

  1081. of so many Christians

  1082. that if you just

  1083. you know

  1084. you read a bible verse

  1085. and your day

  1086. will be successful

  1087. and he just knew

  1088. that couldn't possibly

  1089. be true

  1090. it was sort of

  1091. just this weird optimism

  1092. he certainly knew

  1093. it couldn't be true

  1094. because no fiction character

  1095. portrayed like that

  1096. is actually believable

  1097. and so you know

  1098. here's the thing

  1099. as Christians

  1100. if you give your life

  1101. to Christ

  1102. you will have

  1103. many many hard things

  1104. that are going to happen

  1105. to you in life

  1106. many hard things

  1107. will happen to you

  1108. you'll discover hard things

  1109. about yourself

  1110. and Christ will ask you

  1111. to do hard things

  1112. but it's a very

  1113. very different thing

  1114. to do these hard things

  1115. when you know

  1116. that the end

  1117. of the end

  1118. of the end

  1119. of the end

  1120. is entering into life

  1121. that's the end

  1122. you will enter into life

  1123. and that is unstoppable

  1124. when you put your faith

  1125. and trust in Christ

  1126. it is unstoppable

  1127. and so texts like this

  1128. help us to understand

  1129. the wonder of the gospel

  1130. and also the need

  1131. to pray for the lost

  1132. I just want to say

  1133. if there are any here

  1134. or any who are watching

  1135. I know you're not

  1136. frightened by hell

  1137. but it exists and it real

  1138. and there is this wonderful

  1139. Savior who died for you

  1140. and to know him

  1141. is to know life

  1142. you might have

  1143. very very hard times

  1144. right now

  1145. and you might have

  1146. very hard times

  1147. in the days to come

  1148. some people here

  1149. who are here today

  1150. are going through

  1151. very very difficult

  1152. and hard times

  1153. but when you put

  1154. your faith

  1155. and trust in Christ

  1156. the end of the story

  1157. for you is life

  1158. and that life

  1159. begins to be a life

  1160. that you experience now

  1161. even if there's things

  1162. going wrong

  1163. with your body

  1164. and your finances

  1165. and your mind

  1166. and all of those

  1167. other types of things

  1168. that seed of life

  1169. is something

  1170. that will only grow

  1171. and will end

  1172. with you

  1173. seeing God

  1174. face to face

  1175. and you being like Christ

  1176. and so there's

  1177. no better time

  1178. than now

  1179. to call out to Jesus

  1180. and ask that he would

  1181. be your Savior

  1182. and your Lord

  1183. let's stand

  1184. bow our heads

  1185. in prayer

  1186. Father

  1187. we ask that you

  1188. help us to be mindful

  1189. of the things

  1190. the true things

  1191. the spiritual things

  1192. the things

  1193. which Christ

  1194. talks us to about

  1195. about our destinies

  1196. Father

  1197. we all know

  1198. that human beings

  1199. die

  1200. and we

  1201. all somehow

  1202. blithely

  1203. or just arrogantly

  1204. think that we will

  1205. all go to a better

  1206. place just because

  1207. we're us

  1208. and Christ has issued

  1209. a wake up call

  1210. to us

  1211. that just as we've

  1212. lived our lives

  1213. many of us

  1214. in rebellion

  1215. against you

  1216. if Christ does not

  1217. save us

  1218. that will be the

  1219. final word about us

  1220. but we thank you

  1221. Father

  1222. that that is not

  1223. the final word

  1224. about those

  1225. who put their faith

  1226. and trust in Christ

  1227. and so we ask

  1228. Lord that you

  1229. renew within us

  1230. an appreciation

  1231. of the wonder

  1232. of the gospel

  1233. and of what Jesus

  1234. has done for us

  1235. and grant us

  1236. Father a heart

  1237. to pray

  1238. for those who are

  1239. around us

  1240. that they will come

  1241. to a saving faith

  1242. in Jesus

  1243. and grant us

  1244. Father the courage

  1245. to bear witness

  1246. to Jesus

  1247. and we ask

  1248. all of these things

  1249. in the name of Jesus

  1250. your Son

  1251. and our Savior

  1252. Amen

  1253. you

  1254. Thank you.